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Lukashevich: There can be no talk of the return of Russian officers to the JCCC in the status of “aggressors”

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Alexander Lukashevich, the Permanent Representative of Russia to the OSCE, commented on the situation with the recall of Russian military personnel from the JCCC (Joint Center for Control and Coordination of the Ceasefire) in Donbass and statements by foreign “partners” about the need for them to return there. According to the Russian diplomat, first you need to deal with the legal details of this mission, then talk about a possible return.


From the statement of Alexander Lukashevich (quote RT):
To restore Russian participation in the JSCC, it is necessary to agree and approve the rules of its work, which fixes the legal status of employees. They should be provided with normal working conditions, not worse than the OSCE SMM monitors. There should be a normal procedure for their entry / exit to Ukraine. Naturally, there can be no talk about the work of the Russian military in Ukraine as representatives of the "aggressor country."


Lukashevich: There can be no talk of the return of Russian officers to the JCCC in the status of “aggressors”


Recall that earlier in Ukraine a law was passed that officially “names” Russia precisely as an “aggressor state”. Against this background, Kiev stated that Russia "must" return its servicemen to the contact line to monitor the observance of the ceasefire. Typical Maidan logic, when mutually opposing judgments are being simultaneously expressed, to which Alexander Lukashevich paid attention.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 2 February 2018 18: 08
    16
    Yes, and in any status they do not belong there. Besides real peacekeepers along with units of the Russian army. Throughout the territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions. And not only there.
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      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 2 February 2018 20: 31
        +6
        Quote: BroWR
        Dimitri, you’re wrong right now. They and Ataman always drank the blood from us, and -... on them. I’ve been annoyed recently by nicknames with their flags here, they teach us more reason

        Even I did not understand, who are you talking about? About the DNI and LC and the flag of New Russia?
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          1. Slovak
            Slovak 2 February 2018 20: 58
            13
            Quote: BroWR
            Why don’t you understand there? And your flags annoy you, Rodney (artillerymen and their partners, like you and your friends, who don’t deserve their blood), Thank God, the living ones came. And they won’t go anymore. With your own Putin.

            Though Slovak’s native language, I’m friends with Russian. BROBRO, from your two comments, did not understand anything. You would explain it in Russian, otherwise, forgive me, the mixture: thoughts + words = confusion
            1. vasya.pupkin
              vasya.pupkin 3 February 2018 11: 06
              +3
              Slovaku: this disease is called "Constipation of thoughts, diarrhea of ​​words." Very contagious ...
          2. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 2 February 2018 21: 16
            +9
            Quote: BroWR
            Why don’t you understand there? And your flags annoy you, Rodney (gunners and their friends, like you and your friends calling them, who don’t deserve their blood, Thank God, the living ones came (you were there three times, ungrateful). And they won’t go ., With Putin svo..sami.

            Well, firstly - HAMLO, secondly - fool
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 3 February 2018 01: 46
              11
              Quote: Separ DNR
              Well, firstly - HAMLO, secondly -

              What is there to not understand? A little stupid boy who has absorbed Bandera with burgers from McDonald's ....
              Oh how many times they asked administrators to return to the "cons" .... If only BROVR they’ve seen it here. I would have gone to the “cons” for 10 for a couple of hundred minutes .... But once upon a time, maybe I and his father fought shoulder to shoulder together. And my father - with his grandfather ....
              Lord, if you are! Give at least a little mind to Ukraine !!!!
          3. SEER
            SEER 3 February 2018 00: 22
            +3
            have a bite ...
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 2 February 2018 18: 43
      22
      Against this background, Kiev stated that Russia “should” return its troops to the contact line to monitor ceasefire compliance

      Russia owes you no money. You owe it $ 3 lard + interest. yes
      1. BROVR
        BROVR 2 February 2018 19: 29
        +5
        Vlad- They are no one here, enraged not only by you, ungrateful.
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 2 February 2018 19: 39
          +8
          Quote: BroWR
          Vlad- They are no one here, enraged not only by you, ungrateful.

          Oh, Lech, thanks! good good good You know that on Friday night, after a working week, I’m a tribe, although I’m not a Cossack family, but such songs are just buzz. good drinks
          1. BROVR
            BROVR 2 February 2018 19: 42
            +3
            And who are you?
            1. vlad66
              vlad66 2 February 2018 19: 52
              13
              Quote: BroWR
              And who are you?

              Who am I? PERSON laughing A lot of blood is mixed in me, but all together it turns out-Russian. hi
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 3 February 2018 01: 52
                +7
                Quote: vlad66
                A lot of blood is mixed in me, but all together it turns out-Russian.

                No one said it better than Vasily Filippych -
                It doesn't matter what your skin tone or eye shape is. For the enemy, you are all RUSSIAN!
        2. Slovak
          Slovak 2 February 2018 21: 12
          0
          Quote: BroWR
          Vlad- They are no one here, enraged not only by you, ungrateful.

          Someone here answered?
        3. AlexVas44
          AlexVas44 3 February 2018 11: 55
          +1
          Quote: BroWR
          , ... furious more than one of you, ungrateful.


          Of course furious, blue, however ... am
    3. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 2 February 2018 18: 44
      +7
      Frightened Svidomo and not in vain .. The response of ours., This is a clear threat, and not your chatter in a happy house.
      Get ready. Russia's patience is over! After March, we’ll deal with you closely .. soldier negative
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 2 February 2018 20: 14
        11
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Get ready. Russia's patience is over! After March, we’ll deal with you closely ..

        Yes Yes... yes yes yes
        Just for starters give US, BC in the required number.
        Not having the right to disclose data (what is where and how), I only note that for the eN number of L / C at the position:
        1 (opened) "zinc" 5,45 AK, and 2 "zinc" 7,62PK + 5,45 wearable stock in stores and ribbons in boxes (frankly small).

        AND EVERYTHING fellow And no, still forgot RPG-7 with small stock of "carrots" and
        several RPG-18 Flies ...
        Hold the defense as you want ...

        It got to the point that pravoseki, first on the radio, then exchanged with our phones MTS said:
        - We are aware that you and BK are straining, and we will not storm just because there is no order ...

        And they suggested:
        -We will leave you in the designated place of the BC, take away, "LET'S LIKE"



        Like that, and you are slogans. And to us, really, even with hats.

        PS: I recall the recent time when from a “glass” in the form of a cut 200 hundred liter barrel, handfuls were scooped up “loose powder” ...
        From one half 5,45, from the other 7,62 ...

        RUSSIA WHAT CHANGED? WHY SO NOW?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 2 February 2018 20: 32
          +6
          Quote: Separ DNR
          It got to the point that pravoseki, first on the radio, then exchanged with our phones MTS said:

          Quote: Separ DNR
          1 (opened) "zinc" 5,45 AK, and 2 "zinc" 7,62PK + 5,45 wearable stock in stores and ribbons in boxes (frankly small).

          Go nuts belay This is half an hour. Your division ....
          And here the hat-takers, behind someone else's hump, are already phishington storming on military sofas. (Further obscene)
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 2 February 2018 20: 34
            12
            Quote: Stroporez
            FUCK It's half an hour.

            Yes, colleague, Alas ...
            Do you, with your experience, not know ...

            It remains only to find out who and why, "shakes" the BC.

            Yours or ours, or together?
            Quote: Stroporez
            hat-takers, behind someone else's hump, are already phasington storming on combat sofas.

            And Washington, if necessary, we will help you navigate yes , NOW HELP US.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 2 February 2018 20: 47
              +2
              Quote: Separ DNR
              Yes, colleague, Alas ...

              Colleague, you not only surprised me, but drove me into a stupor (again, not literary expressions).
              Quote: Separ DNR
              It remains only to find out who and why, "shakes" the BC.
              Yours or ours, or together?

              The worst thing is, if you find yourself hostage there, between "your ours, let's dance."
              In general, I am discouraged, although they talked about this 2 years ago.
              Does it even have a boiler room?
              1. Separ DNR
                Separ DNR 2 February 2018 20: 56
                +4
                Quote: Stroporez
                Does it even have a boiler room?

                With this more or less yes Practically, one might say, not even bad.
                The experiments really survived, when they were transferred specifically to the "boiler".
                But now (due to the lack of diesel fuel) they have again returned to the issue of “dry”. Vegetables, cereals, and the like ... We cook ourselves. And the pasta is not stuck together, and the stew is moderate, and yesterday’s borscht canned fish soup does not smell ...
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 3 February 2018 02: 08
                  +9
                  Quote: Separ DNR
                  Cook yourself. And the pasta is not stuck together, and the stew is moderate, and yesterday’s borscht canned fish soup does not smell ...

                  I have three boys left for you from the company. At the expense of the company he dressed, shod, just didn’t buy machines - they said they would give them. He brought money with him - a platoon can feed for a couple of months. End - still send.
                  Hang on, guys! We will not leave you. Itself would go, but to fight the age is not the same, recaptured on four continents. But I think there’s someone to clean potatoes in the wagon train. Yes, and not with the hands of a lieutenant colonel in the kitchen hang around ....
                  Why the hell is not joking? Maybe they would trust the native AKC? Would break ... My wife is only sorry. I’ve been waiting for business trips for more than twenty years. Sometimes without even knowing which continent I am on, I’ll come there myself or they’ll bring in zinc .... And they could not even bring zinc. Yes, grandchildren would put on their feet .... And hands remember, I watch news - yearn ...
                  1. Separ DNR
                    Separ DNR 3 February 2018 02: 52
                    +3
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    I have three boys left for you from the company. At the expense of the company he dressed, shod, just didn’t buy machines - they said they would give them. He brought money with him - a platoon can feed for a couple of months. End - still send.

                    It is gratifying to feel that there are still not indifferent people.
                    Means for feeding, this is perhaps unnecessary. Boys need money, as such, to buy travel equipment for the tasks being solved and the time of year (although it would be better to buy it from you and bring it with you. You have more choices and the price is less. Yes, yes ... yes
                    Oddly enough, with disproportionately less contentment (than in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation), three skins are torn with a warrior. And on whom else to make loot, when the remaining categories of the population are dealing with funds even worse?
                    + money may be needed for renting (you can "addicts") the apartment. After all, in the ridge, in order to wash, relax, you will need to go somewhere (again, if you do not serve in the barracks) ...
                    But do not forget that the monetary allowance, though not gorgeous, is still there. 15000 rubles (the "basis" of the privates) and 1% of the "combat", that is, 150 rubles multiplied by the number of days spent in conditions, so to speak, "close to the military" ...
                    For example, 18750 for January should come out for me ("minus" ridges)
            2. vasya.pupkin
              vasya.pupkin 3 February 2018 11: 14
              +3
              Separu: MURDER is driving ...
        2. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 2 February 2018 20: 51
          +2
          Quote: Separ DNR
          Just for starters, give US, BC in the required counts.

          It’s impossible for now .. You’ll take Kiev ahead of time and destroy the whole plan .. soldier
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 2 February 2018 21: 03
            +8
            Quote: MIKHAN
            It’s impossible for now .. You’ll take Kiev ahead of time and destroy the whole plan ..

            Talk nonsense ...
            Here I am now, and the day after tomorrow I am at the forefront.
            What if the attack? And in half an hour, at most an hour, I am already a corpse ...

            I need it, that some cattle play my life?
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 2 February 2018 21: 17
              +4
              Quote: Separ DNR
              Talk nonsense ...

              What for? This is a local malacholny, he has hpp.
              And to prove that with a bayonet-knife, only in the cinema, five reptiles are cut, this is all one that goose talking with his head.
              It should be borne in mind that the Mihans will not come to the grave and will not help the children with anything, but the geyerops will continue to attack the sofas.
              So between the words I feel that kakly packed, even the packages shine. Most likely they listen to you, how hello.
              Okay, I understood the general situevine, but I don’t want to speak banalities. soldier
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 3 February 2018 02: 15
                +6
                soldier !
                Quote: Stroporez
                And to prove that with a bayonet-knife, only in the cinema, five reptiles are cut, this is all one that goose talking with his head.
                AKM on the countercurrent without a bayonet-knife before the fore-end enters the peritoneum - checked. Only filmmakers do not know about it, otherwise they would certainly be inserted somewhere in the place and out of place. They don’t even know that in the Charter of the Internal Service it is written that a soldier, upon receipt of an order, must answer: “Yes!” And in Russian cinema of the last 20 years all polls cops and the military say: "I obey!" How can these salabons from the cinema explain that in the Charter there is no word "I listen"?
            2. MIKHAN
              MIKHAN 2 February 2018 21: 25
              +1
              Quote: Separ DNR
              Talk nonsense ...

              How to say..
              Quote: Separ DNR
              Here I am now, and the day after tomorrow I am at the forefront.
              What if the attack? And in half an hour, at most an hour, I am already a corpse ...
              I need it, that some cattle play my life?

              But you are alive and the AFU are afraid to attack directly .. And with our lives, we played, are playing and will play .. Such is the reality, alas.
              If Russia merge and sell .. That's then the Russian squads will have to tight .. Water will be from all sides and it is better not to give up captivity .. negative
              1. Separ DNR
                Separ DNR 2 February 2018 21: 36
                +7
                Quote: MIKHAN
                But you are alive and the AFU are afraid to attack directly ..

                What do you know, and from what source (except for "the basurinks for the coming dream") about our losses?
                Afraid to attack? You are the ratio of their forces and us, you know?
                But they know. And almost every day they shout: “Separas, we are going to cut you up” ... And they can go, they just get drunk when the sea is knee-deep. And we have few to meet them.
                You still get to the artillery, and if you make it to the moment when someone else remains alive, it’s not a fact that they’ll get there.
                Can you imagine what the wear of a 120mm mortar in 8 mm is? And how does he shoot?
                128mm ... At least load a tank shot.
                1. MIKHAN
                  MIKHAN 2 February 2018 22: 05
                  +4
                  Quote: Separ DNR
                  What do you know, and from what source (except for "the basurinks for the coming dream") about our losses?

                  And how can you prove that you are who you claim to be ..? And I have vague suspicions about you ..
                  Usually there is rarely bragged about this and generally about hot spots. ..he hehe
                  1. Separ DNR
                    Separ DNR 2 February 2018 22: 35
                    +4
                    Quote: MIKHAN
                    And how can you prove that you are who you claim to be ..? And I have vague suspicions about you ..
                    Usually there is rarely bragged about this and generally about hot spots. ..he hehe


                    Wow, some fool , you also "plus" ...
                    Do you want evidence?
                    Here you are ... Manage this. Before each clown, like you, I don’t intend to get out.
                    Do not wait for a WB scan or other official document. They are not for you, and especially not for general viewing ...

                    Therefore, you have to believe it.

                    * MTS, by the way, was "chopped off" not so long ago, so it’s already possible to judge from this that the combat leaflet is fresh.
                    1. MIKHAN
                      MIKHAN 3 February 2018 06: 14
                      0
                      Quote: Separ DNR
                      Quote: MIKHAN
                      And how can you prove that you are who you claim to be ..? And I have vague suspicions about you ..
                      Usually there is rarely bragged about this and generally about hot spots. ..he hehe


                      Wow, some fool , you also "plus" ...
                      Do you want evidence?
                      Here you are ... Manage this. Before each clown, like you, I don’t intend to get out.
                      Do not wait for a WB scan or other official document. They are not for you, and especially not for general viewing ...

                      Therefore, you have to believe it.

                      * MTS, by the way, was "chopped off" not so long ago, so it’s already possible to judge from this that the combat leaflet is fresh.

                      I believe Separ, I'm sorry ... hi
                    2. kaon3000
                      kaon3000 4 February 2018 17: 32
                      0
                      How so? Mikhan, please explain ... And where do you get the advanced office equipment from? Screen is not inserted, why is this newspaper not in the DNR media register? Only the third number?
                  2. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 2 February 2018 22: 40
                    +4
                    Quote: MIKHAN
                    And what can you prove

                    Vitali, do not get into the bottle stop , back up the "combat sofa" and storm the Pendagon, and tomorrow, at the command, report how your "storm" went wassat
                    And Kamrad has already proved everything! Other evidence, it’s you who ask Kolya Svanidze yes
      2. pafegosoff
        pafegosoff 2 February 2018 20: 40
        +4
        It seems that the Kremlin is not waiting for the elections, but the World Cup. Already a lot of money has been invested to substitute for this event.
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 2 February 2018 20: 47
          +9
          Quote: pafegosoff
          It seems that the Kremlin is not waiting for the elections, but the World Cup. Already a lot of money has been invested to substitute for this event.

          So why get involved in big politics and geopolitical showdowns?
          Would be content with sports under the "neutral flag" ...
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 3 February 2018 02: 26
            +9
            Quote: Separ DNR
            Would be content with sports under the "neutral flag" ...

            I can not answer for the national team. Especially - for the whole country. I will say for myself. I would not have gone without a flag and anthem. Moreover, tricolor doesn’t hurt my own. I swore allegiance to another country and another banner. Red, with a sickle and a hammer. And they do not choose the oath as a mother, and normal people also do not know how to swear twice. But ABSOLUTELY without a flag and anthem ??? Yes, people have been preparing, all their lives they have been going for this and other blah blah ... For their personal career, participation in the Olympics is probably nishtyak. But if you look at him not as a specific athlete, but as a representative of your country, then without a flag and an anthem is a shame! And normal people at such an "Olympics" have nothing to do ... And these ... God is their judge .....
            We’ll laugh at the refereeing ... When the boys and I used to chase a ball in the yard a long time ago, those who behaved in the way the IOC behaves today were called in our simple word "stray" ... I don’t know, I need to translate or not, but the judges at that “Olympiad” will still be hearty .....
        2. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 2 February 2018 20: 54
          +1
          Quote: pafegosoff
          It seems that the Kremlin is not waiting for the elections, but the World Cup. Already a lot of money has been invested to substitute for this event.

          And what are you waiting for, unlike the Kremlin and Russia?
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 2 February 2018 20: 59
            +8
            Quote: MIKHAN
            And what are you waiting for, unlike the Kremlin and Russia?

            MIHAN, let me be responsible for pafegosoff ?
            Obviously the same as any ordinary person : So that the authorities turn to face the people ...
            1. MIKHAN
              MIKHAN 2 February 2018 21: 35
              +3
              Quote: Separ DNR
              Quote: MIKHAN
              And what are you waiting for, unlike the Kremlin and Russia?

              MIHAN, let me be responsible for pafegosoff ?
              Obviously the same as any ordinary person : So that the authorities turn to face the people ...

              Interestingly, you argue .. Russia is surrounded by NATO divisions and other aggressive "ex-brothers" .. Stop the Army and Navy rearm? And give up ..? Pensions increase 100 times and die as a state .. hehe
              Donbass, Russia is expensive. so stand to death and knock out the enemy, especially armored vehicles, etc. But you should not be offended by Russia ..
              1. Separ DNR
                Separ DNR 2 February 2018 21: 51
                +6
                Quote: MIKHAN
                Donbass, Russia is expensive.

                Not more expensive than Syria. And in general, if YOU didn’t steal YOUR bureaucrats in conjunction with OUR villains, then Donbass would not be such a burden for an ordinary Russian.
                And in general, is it all about money, social benefits?
                It seems that a valid postulate "The law is one for all", would also be a signal to the people that they are being considered ...
              2. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 3 February 2018 02: 38
                +8
                Vitaliy, hi !
                Quote: MIKHAN
                Pensions in 100 times increase and die as a state .. hehe
                About 15-17 years ago there were some elections, and on the street I live in, some liberal party carefully placed, all over the street, on every pillar, A4 leaflets with one single slogan in capital letters - "Russians - pensions 10 000 rubles! " and the signature of the party below. Two hours passed, and then someone just as neatly, on each leaflet, attributed with a marker at the bottom - "After 10 000 years ...".
                Neighing the whole city .... laughing
        3. Sergeant71
          Sergeant71 3 February 2018 06: 03
          +1
          99% that the Kremlin does not expect anything. There is no reason for him to aggravate after 3 years of passive contemplation. Like that side. Next the presidential election in 404. Why do they need regular trends, corpses and cripples? Nobody is profitable by and large. Sitting for 3 years against each other without attempting offensives, the best proof of this and all the cries of local "experts" and TV experts on horns and hooves "Oh, schA will begin!" - complete nonsense. Every year, 5 votes are cast, and as a result, nothing.
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 2 February 2018 18: 46
      +1
      First of all, it is necessary to put the absurdity of Ukrainian law that recognized Russia as an aggressor. Surely he was adopted at the behest of Walker.
      1. seti
        seti 2 February 2018 18: 49
        +6
        Even without Walker, they are ready to dive into a barrel of shit if only to annoy Russia.
    5. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 2 February 2018 19: 17
      +3
      As accepting act of surrender.
  2. Partyzan
    Partyzan 2 February 2018 18: 10
    +6
    They should be provided with normal working conditions, no worse than the OSCE SMM observers. a normal procedure for their entry / exit to Ukraine should be provided. Naturally, there can be no talk of the work of the Russian military in Ukraine as representatives of the "aggressor country."

    right, and then again the Russian armed forces will see in the territory of the mount
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 2 February 2018 19: 01
      +2
      Quote: Partyzan
      right, and then again the Russian armed forces will see in the territory of the mount

      There is a suspicion that a radioactive cloud will be seen there earlier.
      What prompted the official in such a terrible way to die is not called. ... The head of the nuclear safety department of the Zaporizhzhya NPP Sergey Klimov committed suicide on February 1, his body was found in an apartment in the city of Energodar, Dialog.UA reports.

      Samoubil, yeah, with a knife in the heart - tales of the Vienna Woods, Panimash.
      1. Partyzan
        Partyzan 2 February 2018 19: 21
        +1
        Quote: Gray Brother
        tales of the Vienna Woods, panimash.

        we all live in a fairy tale - and the further into the fairy tale - the worse
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 2 February 2018 19: 51
          0
          Quote: Partyzan
          we all live in a fairy tale - and the further into the fairy tale - the worse

          Ukraine as the Grimm brothers in the original)))
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 3 February 2018 03: 43
        +7
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Samoubil, yeah, with a knife in the heart - tales of the Vienna Woods, Panimash.

        And three headshots. lol
        I remember how my wife and I laughed together when Rokhlin's wife “shot” ... With one shot to the head “in a fit of jealousy”. I asked my question then - here you are, I say, “in a fit of jealousy” if you decided to kill me from my award, could you shoot me in the head? My wife, in spite of the fact that she shoots well for a layman (he taught himself!), Said that she would have planted the entire clip anywhere. Well, not one in my head ....
        For some reason, it always makes me laugh when the ears of the special services stick out for half a meter .... I am a military man in the past, I am used to acting quickly and harshly. But even so rude never worked ...
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 2 February 2018 18: 25
    +1
    Only under the direct command of Shoigu, and by the power of one tank division, can one return there!
    1. 210ox
      210ox 2 February 2018 18: 27
      +4
      Oh! Somewhere I already heard it ... Ah, Pasha-Mercedes! It will not work. Zarathustra will not allow it. Yes, and the division is probably not enough.
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Only under the direct command of Shoigu, and by the power of one tank division, can one return there!
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 3 February 2018 03: 50
        +6
        Dmitry, hi !
        Quote: 210ox
        Somewhere I already heard it ... Ah, Pasha-Mercedes!

        I am ashamed that Pasha once served in the landing. He is not a paratrooper. The traitor and the skin ...
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 3 February 2018 04: 25
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          I am ashamed that Pasha once served in the landing.

          He is a Hero of the Soviet Union and Army General soldier Never been his fan, but the shit that he poured on him did not deserve. And about Mercedes winked Got it am fool Probably the Minister of Defense of the nuclear superpower was supposed to ride a trolley bus ... personal yes Db!
  4. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 2 February 2018 18: 26
    +3
    There was no need to be there initially. The point is zero. And secondly, since we are “aggressors” and “there is a war”, then how does this look from the outside? Can someone imagine, for example, Abwehr officers at the forefront of the Red Army as observers, on the one hand, and representatives of the Red Army in Wehrmacht positions, on the other? Me not.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 2 February 2018 18: 34
      +5
      Unfortunately, they had to carry out the order. I consider the order to be criminal. Since it gave advantages to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In fact, these officers were held hostage by the obscure foreign policy.
      Quote: Sergeant71
      There was no need to be there initially. The point is zero. And secondly, since we are “aggressors” and “there is a war”, then how does this look from the outside? Can someone imagine, for example, Abwehr officers at the forefront of the Red Army as observers, on the one hand, and representatives of the Red Army in Wehrmacht positions, on the other? Me not.
  5. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 2 February 2018 18: 32
    +3
    Russia has been blamed for so long as the aggressor country that occupied the Donbass that we have no choice but to really send troops directly to Kiev and restore order there. I think more than half of the population will be on our side.
    1. IL-18
      IL-18 2 February 2018 20: 24
      +1
      I don’t think so. [Quote]] / quote]] more than half of the population will be on our side.
  6. samarin1969
    samarin1969 2 February 2018 18: 46
    +1
    In four years, so many “red lines” were drawn, exits from the “Norman format”, “loud silence”, etc., that the official’s statement sounds like an invitation to another diplomatic “dance”. Perhaps it is already difficult to imagine the topic of foreign policy where else the "RF" could not "talk".
  7. andron-30
    andron-30 2 February 2018 18: 50
    +3
    verily the stupidity and arrogance of the euro and the bureaucrats have no limits, the "aggressor" must coordinate the ceasefire, how do you understand this? there that only Klitschko gathered or what?
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 2 February 2018 18: 57
      0
      Quote: andron-30
      there that only Klitschko gathered or what?

      Ordinary Svidomo doublethink, it’s time to get used to it already.
    2. ibn.shamai
      ibn.shamai 2 February 2018 19: 02
      0
      From the hosts take an example! fool
  8. Terenin
    Terenin 2 February 2018 18: 53
    +5
    A. Lukashevich: There can be no talk of the return of Russian officers to the JCCC in the status of “aggressors”
    And what does the status of “aggressors” have to do with this (one should pay attention to this idiocy), one of the main tasks of the OSCE is the prevention of conflicts in the region. And he already, in relation to our guys from the side of silly was real.
  9. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 2 February 2018 18: 58
    0
    Svidomo talk. It seems like they are in the subject. You have to insert your own 20 cents! lol
  10. silver2018
    silver2018 2 February 2018 19: 05
    0
    We’ll decide without Lukashenko.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 2 February 2018 19: 20
      0
      Quote: silver2018
      We’ll decide without Lukashenko.

      And Lukashenko, what’s your hangover here? There was no question about him.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 2 February 2018 19: 55
        +2
        Quote: Piramidon
        And Lukashenko, what’s your hangover here?

        I noticed that some still confuse Petryga and Grigorich by last name. Well, the ending is the same. laughing Or do we not know something? wassat
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 2 February 2018 20: 42
          +1
          Well, it’s simpler here - they only confused Alexander Lukashevich and Alexander Lukashenko. yes
  11. shinobi
    shinobi 2 February 2018 20: 16
    +1
    Time! Time, this is the key to all this whistle. Until the roundabouts around the future theater are completely finished, neither we nor Europe will make any sudden movements. No matter how the Yankees push and push Bandera to war. With access to full power there will be no need for bad flows at all. And here are the possible options. There is a direct correlation between interruptions in gas supplies through the ruins and sales of LNG by the Yankees to Europe. Because mattresses prevent the promotion of direct deliveries of our gas to Europe. we’ll get rid of competition with US LNG. Nobody needs a ruin by itself. After capturing the main European gas market, everyone will abandon Ukraine. And, more likely, neighboring states will be divided into parts according to the historical and ethnic principle. And in general, this will happen or No, Russia will decide.
  12. Simon
    Simon 2 February 2018 20: 59
    +1
    Quote: seti
    Even without Walker, they are ready to dive into a barrel of shit if only to annoy Russia.

    Yes .. ah, they have a lot of crap! laughing
  13. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 2 February 2018 21: 06
    0
    Typical Ukrainian “logic”: But what about us?
  14. LeonidL
    LeonidL 2 February 2018 21: 10
    0
    Is there any point in returning?
  15. Baloo
    Baloo 2 February 2018 21: 17
    +1
    To restore Russian participation in the JSCC, it is necessary to agree and approve the rules of its work, which fixes the legal status of employees. They should be provided with normal working conditions, not worse than the OSCE SMM monitors. There should be a normal procedure for their entry / exit to Ukraine. Naturally, there can be no talk about the work of the Russian military in Ukraine as representatives of the "aggressor country."
    And rightly so, there is nothing to arrange a booth. Russia is poor and does not want to participate in this bloody circus as extras.
  16. Dormidont
    Dormidont 2 February 2018 21: 22
    0
    Only after the complete and unconditional surrender of the Nazis
  17. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 3 February 2018 01: 06
    0
    "Thank you brother".
  18. tosha.chuhontzev
    tosha.chuhontzev 3 February 2018 04: 35
    +1
    Many Russians are tired of all these games. a tough and decisive attitude is needed. But the Kremlin launders money through Ukrainian banks bypassing sanctions. But in general, it is disgusting to look at all this mouse fuss with real human victims.
  19. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 3 February 2018 06: 18
    +1
    Quote: Separ DNR
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Donbass, Russia is expensive.

    Not more expensive than Syria. And anyway, if YOU didn’t steal YOUR bureaucrats in conjunction with OUR villains, then Donbass would not be such a burden for an ordinary Russian ...

    You operate with simple concepts and emotions, which is difficult to blame you. A fighter from the trench sees that the world is dirt, hopelessness and pi .... s at headquarters. A normal commander in the headquarters is thinking about how to win the war, even at the cost of a lost battle. If we would like to merge the DNI and the LC, we would have merged it a long time ago. This is a complex game, in which NATovtsev must also be taken into account. For example, I see that the task is extremely difficult, but it is not possible to calculate the development plan on the nonsense data that comes from the media. The lack of BC in this case is not a sign of betrayal. Do not broadcast defeatist moods. In any case, they decide for you - this is the law of war, unless you are the commander in chief. Live with faith in the best.
    B..b, I'm just crucifying myself like a political officer ...
  20. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 3 February 2018 09: 36
    +2
    Our officers can return to the territory of stolen goods only with the status of LIBERATORS, including from this ukro-fascist mud.
  21. gurzuf
    gurzuf 3 February 2018 11: 09
    +2
    Quote: Separ DNR
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Donbass, Russia is expensive.

    Not more expensive than Syria. And in general, if YOU didn’t steal YOUR bureaucrats in conjunction with OUR villains, then Donbass would not be such a burden for an ordinary Russian.
    And in general, is it all about money, social benefits?
    It seems that a valid postulate "The law is one for all", would also be a signal to the people that they are being considered ...

    You're right! It was necessary to take Donetsk and Lugansk like us in Crimea in the year 14. The result would be the same as now, only less blood would be shed.