China tanker crashed

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Twelve people were killed in a military plane crash in Guizhou province in southwestern China, TASS Post by South China Morning Post.

China tanker crashed
Y-8 transport aircraft



According to the newspaper, referring to a military source, the disaster occurred last Monday during a training flight, but it became known only now.

According to the source, we are talking about a modified tanker aircraft of a new type, created on the basis of the transport aircraft Y-8 (Yun-8, analogous to the Soviet An-12).

There were 12 people on board - men and women, none of them managed to escape when the plane began to fall,
said the source.

He explained to the newspaper that this machine “is not equipped with a bailout system, and the crew did not have enough time to jump with a parachute.”

PLA does not give official comments on the tragedy. As the newspaper notes, this incident "undermined the morale in the Air Force, as it occurred several weeks after the crash of another aircraft, the J-15 carrier-based fighter (Jian-15)."

According to the source, the aircraft of these types today "are not perfect and need further testing and refinement" before they can fully participate in military maneuvers aviation.
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  1. +21
    2 February 2018 14: 57
    ... the disaster happened last Monday, during a training flight ...
    ... On board were 12 people - men and women, none of them managed to escape when the plane began to fall ...
    .... aircraft of these types today "are not perfect and need further testing and refinement" ...

    Sometimes it happens...
    But it’s better that it’s never happened to anyone ...
    Land in peace, condolences to the near and dear ...
    1. +3
      2 February 2018 15: 05
      Onboard were 12 people - men and women, none of them managed to escape when the plane began to fall

      According to the source, the aircraft of these types today "are not perfect and need further testing and refinement" before they can fully participate in the maneuvers of military aviation

      So we should go to the fact that due to new developments find technical opportunities to reduce the number of crew ...
      "Annushka", of course, is not an object for this (due to outdated technical capabilities), but nevertheless you need to go this way.
    2. +16
      2 February 2018 15: 07
      Yes, it’s “sometimes this happens” with everyone. It’s just angry when NATO sailors and pilots who die are spit on the graves here, and the Chinese express their condolences to the VO. And there and there People. There’s no war. What kind of selectivity is this?
      1. +20
        2 February 2018 15: 30
        Vietnamese heads yearned for hair and sent photos to girlfriends. Few? And I don’t want to continue. It’s better to beat the enemy with evil, and not after loving him. hi
        1. +4
          3 February 2018 00: 36
          Quote: Rusland
          Vietnamese heads yearned for hair and sent photos to girlfriends. Few? And I don’t want to continue. It’s better to beat the enemy with evil, and not after loving him. hi

          Well, if you stand up for a Vietnamese, then they and the Chinese have killed a lot. Take, for example, the 1979 Sino-Vietnamese conflict.
      2. +32
        2 February 2018 15: 49
        Quote: BroWR
        ... It’s just angry when NATO sailors and pilots who perished on the graves are spit here, and the Chinese express their condolences to VO ...

        Well, firstly, in VO there are no graves, no one's. Especially NATO.
        Secondly, dancing on the graves is not very smart people. This is their business.
        Thirdly, there are people, but there are NOT people.
        NATO hackers trained barmalei, on whose conscience the blood of our military.
        The same NATO instructors are in Yavorov, where they train the armed gangsters.
        I am not a "general man" and a "citizen of the world." I am the same Russian whose country these NATO sailors and pilots for whom you are so upset have overlaid with flags around the perimeter.
        They will play in a box, and the road is there for them. I’m not saying bad at the same time, but also good.
        Here you have the selectivity.
        The fewer of these seaman and flyers, at the borders of our country, the better.
        1. +7
          2 February 2018 15: 58
          And I am the same Russian (they also surrounded me with theirs), who have the good (or whatever) about the dead (whoever they are). When you opened it more fully, I fully support your position. hi
          1. +10
            2 February 2018 16: 12
            BROVR
            ... Your position when you opened more fully, fully and fully support ...

            Well and goodies hi
      3. +7
        2 February 2018 16: 22
        Quote: BroWR
        Yes, it’s “sometimes this happens” with everyone. It’s just angry when NATO sailors and pilots who die are spit on the graves here, and the Chinese express their condolences to the VO. And there and there People. There’s no war. What kind of selectivity is this?

        I agree - it happens with everyone. But why should I condole with the enemies, I do not understand. Or are mattresses not our enemies? Strange you however. They call us enemies publicly, wage an economic, political, information war with us, and you - "There is no war." Yes, she never stopped! And when will you only understand this? When will they give you a head?
      4. +1
        3 February 2018 12: 13
        What do you think? Why doesn’t the death of NATO sympathy cause, but the death of the Chinese military cause? Probably people have reasons for this, but the fact that there is no war is true, however, someone near the borders of the Russian Federation pursues one policy, and someone else and this gives rise to a different attitude.
    3. +1
      2 February 2018 15: 17
      Excellent Chinese quality. Well. Do you think the frigates are different?
    4. +5
      2 February 2018 15: 24
      Quote: Andrey K
      ..... Sometimes it happens .... But it’s better that it’s never happened to anyone ..

      Unfortunately, this is impossible .. The development of Chinese aviation resembles the aviation boom of the Soviet Air Force in the 30s, and accident rate at such a pace is an inevitable companion ..
      It’s not for you to scoop down jackets ..
    5. +9
      2 February 2018 16: 45
      What a day today such in France, two helicopters crashed, in China, to hell with it with iron, but people are sorry.
      Quote: BroWR
      . And there, and there-People. There is no war

      The war is going on, dear, you just don’t want to notice it, so far only in a cold performance. But a hot one can start at any moment.
      Quote: BroWR
      It’s just angry when NATO sailors and pilots who die on the graves spit here

      Find who and where he spits. Of course there are specimens. I do not argue, but mostly either good or nothing, do not rush words however. hiNobody spits where, chop in your nose. hi
    6. +1
      2 February 2018 17: 16
      It’s a pity to people, and the Chinese should cut a piece of iron, like two fingers on asphalt. Something will fly. winked
      1. +1
        3 February 2018 05: 10
        Always sorry for people. Now I’m reading the book "Great Neighbor Aviation" Part 1. Many Chinese aviators have died since the beginning of the development of flights.
  2. +4
    2 February 2018 14: 57
    It's sad when people die.
  3. 0
    2 February 2018 15: 07
    It seems like there was infa that our recently made a new tanker - it's time to roll over to the Chinese with an offer to buy them 100500 good , of course, with preliminary condolences, but always strict and unbreakable contact at exactly 100500.
    In general, this is a good topic - the Chinese are building up their fleet and the air fleet, so they’ll offer to “divide the tasks”, let them focus on all kinds of copies of our past planes there, while we will do them refueling feel good . And in general, since there is now a hitch between the Chinese and the Merikas there, it is suggested to "return the port of Arthur to us" lol Well, we "place the final course there and this and that and that" and of course to provide "protection against Iranian missiles" good
    1. +6
      2 February 2018 15: 32
      People have sorrow, and you, like a Judea, dance and carry some kind of crap, which you cannot even write here in normal RUSSIAN (Merikos, Chinese). Solid idiotic emoticons.
      1. +1
        2 February 2018 15: 40
        Arguing? Well, at least compare their "nedotanker" and our IL-78, which recently took off good . And what does it mean "they have a tragedy and I", I really suggest rejoicing - no, my proposal is absolutely logical. Simply, if you go through all the options: a) only condolences (what do you offer) b) condolences and the gift of our technologies to them and c) condolences and the offer not to make new victims, but to buy a refueling tanker that is already flying and tested from us, which option the best? You only suggest - “admire” how they will continue to develop planes and beat them (losing people), while I offer them the option - to avoid (or drastically reduce) possible victims. lol Well, the fact that our aircraft factories will receive a "penny" feel , well, so the Chinese are rich and the work of our people is worth the reward.
        1. +1
          2 February 2018 16: 31
          Mi1974 Today, 15:40 ↑ New
          Well, at least compare their "nedotanker" and our IL-78, which recently took off

          In fact, the IL-78 took off not "recently", but 35 years ago - in 1983
          Although ... the Chinese and 100 years old recently.
          1. 0
            3 February 2018 00: 45
            https://topwar.ru/134568-noveyshiy-toplivozapravs
            chik-il-78m-90a-sovershil-pervyy-fly.html
            And note this is not a left resource !! fool and right there it is. Do I really remember what they write in VO? sad
            1. 0
              4 February 2018 06: 24
              I noticed that for some IL-78 and IL-78M-90A - this is one and the same wink
              Military Review ● News
              The newest tanker IL-78М-90А made the first flight

              January 25 2018
              The newest Russian aircraft tanker IL-78М-90А made the first flight. This was reported on Thursday in the press service of the company "Aviation Complex. SV Ilyushin."
              Today, January 25, the flight model of the IL-78М-90А advanced tanker aircraft made its first flight. Pilot the plane chief pilot "Ilyushin" Hero of the Russian Federation, Honored Test Pilot of the Russian Federation Nikolai Dmitrievich Kuimov
              - said in a statement.
    2. +4
      2 February 2018 15: 43
      It's strange, like I'm with you for almost one year of birth .., but I do not use stupid emoticons ala ok.
      And I am not happy about the deaths of people, albeit partly of our "allies."
      On the topic, it’s a pity of course, but it’s an active flight practice .. They will think, study and develop.
      1. +2
        2 February 2018 16: 33
        Quote: NOMADE
        It's strange, like I'm with you for almost one year of birth .., but I do not use stupid emoticons ala ok.
        And I am not happy about the deaths of people, albeit partly of our "allies."
        On the topic, it’s a pity of course, but it’s an active flight practice .. They will think, study and develop.

        Well, firstly, they are not allies to us, even in quotation marks. They are temporary companions on this particular stretch of track. Secondly, where did you see the joy? No one here is happy. Many condole. And I would really like us to be so condolenced when, unfortunately, we also lose people.
  4. +3
    2 February 2018 15: 16
    I express my condolences to the Chinese! soldier
  5. 0
    2 February 2018 15: 28
    Technique - there is a technique. It remains to bring condolences to the relatives of the crew members.
    1. +9
      2 February 2018 15: 38
      My condolences ...
      So this was a test flight along the way, also women, factory workers probably ...
      1. 0
        2 February 2018 15: 50
        But personally, I did not understand there are so many people. Test flight - means the number of people must be reduced to the required minimum. This is a passenger plane - no, this is a tanker, which means that the crew there should be minimal. So another question - why the hell were there so many people? But if they measured with “hands”, then this is a good reason to change the instructions for conducting tests with replacing people with devices.
        1. +1
          2 February 2018 16: 34
          Mi1974 Today, 15:50
          But personally, I did not understand there are so many people. Test flight - means the number of people must be reduced to the required minimum.

          That's why he is testing to test the operation of all systems.
          Airplanes in test flights are crammed with additional instrumentation, which requires not only keeping an eye, but also performing work on fixing (taking) readings from it.
          1. 0
            3 February 2018 00: 50
            Forgive my amateurism - but is it really that now read any modern device is not equipped with a self-recording and long-term storage device? I repeat - the flight is still a test one, which means it’s just necessary to reduce the number of people on board, which means put automatic devices and let them go. Then, after landing, they study these notes !! good And do not fly on a plane not fully approved for use.
            1. 0
              4 February 2018 06: 29
              Everything is. There are also automatic ones.
              And it’s not dangerous to fly on a test car, because the first SUCCESSFUL run-run runs, approaches and the first flights were completed earlier.
              Well, a well-established technique can break.
  6. ZVS
    0
    2 February 2018 15: 40
    The whole Internet learned about this disaster on Tuesday. This only Military Review became known only today. ))))))))))))
    1. +3
      2 February 2018 15: 46
      Quote: SU
      The whole Internet learned about this disaster on Tuesday. This only Military Review became known only today. ))))))))))))

      Well, what did you mean by that? Rejoice that you were the first to unearth this, and VO was late. A medal on your chest "For first place in the Yandex search. Who's stopping you from finding and posting your search results here? Will you always be ahead. Or can you criticize?
    2. +1
      2 February 2018 16: 03
      The whole Internet learned about this disaster on Tuesday.

      hi ...
      A Chinese aircraft crashed during a training flight in Guizhou Province in southwestern China on January 29, 2018. According to some media reports, the aircraft involved was a PLA Y Aircraft Intelligent Aircraft -8GX4 (ELINT) aircraft with serial number: 30513, assigned to the Special Department of the 20th PLA Y-8G Task Force. G in an accident. Some reports reported that about 40 people died and there were no survivors.

      (translation from YouTube)
  7. +1
    2 February 2018 16: 42
    Our form resembles .. My condolences to the Chinese comrades. hi
  8. +1
    2 February 2018 18: 08
    I want to repeat the old comment. In the 1930s, Bolshevik propaganda proceeded with pink drool about "the good German proletariat, which is our comrade, brother and friend." How it ended, probably everyone knows.
    “It seems as if Tolstoyans, botanists and pacifists gathered on a military review. So many pink snot about China. But the idea is very simple - the Chinas spoiled their entire territory and all their resources. But the resources of Siberia and the Far East, and especially fresh water Baikal - this is a tidbit for which they will climb in any way. Don’t flatter yourself, the war has already begun. Chinas are already in full swing into Siberia and the Far East. We are developing our natural resources in full swing. Putin and Medvedev have leased them deposits , territories. They will not leave from there! And the further introduction of the PRC army (in a year, in 10 years, in 50 years ...) will only legally confirm that this will be the territory of China. Nuclear weapons will not help here, because the Russian population will live in these territories (Buryats, Yakuts, etc.). If our so-called "elite" already sells water from Lake Baikal, then, in fact, this is already the transfer of territories and resources. The Chinese are vile, cunning and thieves in our power about nor enjoy 100%! "
    1. +9
      2 February 2018 23: 41
      Who do you relate to?

      Reading you is disgusting ...

      Dip your head into Lake Baikal quickly and cool ... it may temporarily help ...
  9. 0
    2 February 2018 19: 36
    What i think
    While there is no obvious military confrontation - every crashed plane, every dead aviator - there is a common loss for the common dream of mankind to fly ... And we all learn from these losses. Here, find out the Chinese, for example, that the design feature of this type of aircraft or something was wrong with routine maintenance became the cause of the crash - we will take this into account and will fly without loss ...
    Politics is the tenth thing ....

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