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In China, will test the new ship cannon

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In China, preparing to test a new ship artillery installation of large sizes, reports blog military expert Yuri Lyamin.




Characteristics of the gun are not known. According to the expert, “many assume that this may be a railgun, that is, an electromagnetic accelerator of masses”.



The dimensions of the installation are quite impressive, the author notes. For its tests at the shipyard in Wuhan, the landing ship of the project 072-III "Haiyanshan" was re-equipped.

In China, will test the new ship cannon


On the deck of the ship, containers were also installed in which electrical equipment was allegedly located.



This equipment will probably provide the railgun with additional electricity.

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  1. Zhelezyakin
    Zhelezyakin 2 February 2018 12: 39
    +2
    And the sheet is an invisibility specially for maintaining and drawing attention to a secret object. If only they would drag out the usual mask ...
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 2 February 2018 12: 47
      +1
      Quote: Zhelezyakin
      If only they would drag out the usual mask ...

      Apparently there is no such need. Attacks, a solid weapon at the Chinese BDK .... To see how it shoots. Here's an example of shooting at our BDK 775 project.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 2 February 2018 13: 23
        0
        The first photo shows a staircase. If the height of the railing is 1,2 m, then the outer diameter of the barrel is about the same
        belay
        Yes, most likely railgun
        1. yehat
          yehat 2 February 2018 13: 41
          +3
          the barrel caliber under the casing does not exceed 305mm, I think even no more than 280.
          Which is also not small, but quite familiar to the fleet. I do not think it is rail.
          Rather, experiments in order to radically increase the power of a universal tool.
          1. albert
            albert 2 February 2018 18: 01
            0
            In the USSR, at the end of the 70s, tests were conducted of the Pion-M sea gun, also of a solid caliber of 203 m. Maybe the Chinese decided to build battleships winked
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            2. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 2 February 2018 20: 42
              +4
              Quote: albert
              In the USSR, at the end of the 70s, tests were conducted of the Pion-M sea gun, also of a solid caliber of 203 m. Maybe the Chinese decided to build battleships winked

              battleships are not battleships, but river monitors tried)
      2. Zhelezyakin
        Zhelezyakin 2 February 2018 13: 53
        +1
        It was more sarcasm than a complaint about aesthetics. It may happen that this is a "duck", it will become a Chinese ...
    2. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 2 February 2018 12: 49
      +2
      Quote: Zhelezyakin
      The characteristics of the gun are not known.

      - Such euphoria against the background of the ordinary test of a SIMPLE gun ...! What will she shoot at satellites, or, God forbid, torpedoes !!!!!!!
    3. Sevastiec
      Sevastiec 2 February 2018 13: 04
      0
      Haha ... maybe the external box is also a dummy? And inside is a tiny little fart.))) Matryoshka, Christmas trees.
    4. vlad66
      vlad66 2 February 2018 13: 12
      +6
      Whatever it is a gun, railgun, because they try, do not stand still, you can envy for good.
  2. Separ DNR
    Separ DNR 2 February 2018 12: 40
    +3
    Wow, these Chinese ...
    They undertake everything, they try everything. yes And the resources are found.
    1. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 12: 41
      +7
      Quote: Separ DNR
      They undertake everything, they try everything.

      and it starts to turn out
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 2 February 2018 12: 42
        +5
        Quote: Angel_and_Demon
        and it starts to turn out

        So I’m thinking about the same thing ...
        Quantity (trial and error) is invariably transformed into quality.
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 12: 45
          +7
          Quote: Separ DNR
          So I’m thinking about the same thing ...

          and, I think very soon, will become the strongest player on the world stage
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 2 February 2018 12: 47
            +6
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            and, I think very soon, will become the strongest player on the world stage

            Celestial, has the full historical right to be a great power, but only WHAT will it be a power, and WHAT will be its neighbors?
            1. Angel_and_Demon
              Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 12: 48
              +6
              Quote: Separ DNR
              WHAT will it be a power and WHAT will be to its neighbors?

              God knows this. request
              1. Orionvit
                Orionvit 2 February 2018 18: 13
                +1
                Quote: Angel_and_Demon
                God knows this.

                Why is this? Anyone who knows at least a little about the subject knows that for the Chinese, there are only the interests of a "great empire under heaven." And the neighboring countries are all "the essence of the lost province of China." So there can be no doubt and there is no deception about China ..
    2. gromoboj
      gromoboj 5 February 2018 18: 22
      0
      If we start executing embezzlers, we will have it.
  3. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 2 February 2018 12: 42
    10
    It looks like a gun, a railgun does not make sense to disguise it, other design features.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 2 February 2018 12: 59
      +1
      But not too short for a railgun?
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 2 February 2018 13: 47
      +1
      Some kind of PU. The recoil of both the railgun and the normal gun will break the boat. bully
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 February 2018 12: 48
    +3
    The Paper Tiger is a Chinese invention. But just not very dangerous, if you look ...
    Railgun is a topic that has not justified itself, at this stage of technology development. wassat
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 2 February 2018 12: 52
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The Paper Tiger is a Chinese invention. But just not very dangerous, if you look ...
      Railgun is a topic that has not justified itself, at this stage of technology development.

      And who knows which “Chinese sub-sub-cover” their scientists and engineers will use?
      Suddenly, the Chinese will surprise everyone?

      You won’t try, it won’t work No. .
      1. Dreamboat
        Dreamboat 2 February 2018 16: 16
        +3
        The Americans didn’t succeed in this, and we didn’t because of underfunding, but this does not mean that others won’t succeed.
        It will be funny if China rails come into service earlier than the United States.
        By the way, they are more necessary for China, the United States has the largest and most expensive fleet with which China will soon fight ... and here again, a racer ... yes
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 2 February 2018 18: 16
          0
          Why are you rushing about with this "railgun", like with a written sack? Scientific interest, I agree, but let at least someone clearly explain the concept of its use in the military sphere.
          1. kamski
            kamski 3 February 2018 17: 43
            0
            how it is known whether another duck turned out in the USA or not. I think the United States has such a gun and much more that in Russia is not even on paper
            1. Orionvit
              Orionvit 3 February 2018 19: 03
              0
              Quote: kamski
              I think the United States has such a gun and much more that in Russia is not even on paper

              Yes, you’re my friend patriot. laughing There are a lot of things in the USA, (aliens shared), but just as before a collision with a serious enemy, the states always look pale. That's what the states have in abundance, so these are green pieces of paper, which they themselves print. What else is full in the states is ambition, arrogance, deceit and duplicity. Here then of course, they are ahead of the rest of the planet, where the whole world is there.
            2. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 3 February 2018 19: 44
              +2
              Quote: kamski
              I think the US has such a gun

              Of course there is) Like many. Purely as a laboratory setup))
              And how sometimes you look at their projects, completely bad thoughts come into your head. like the Drug Enforcement Department is there ...)
          2. Grigory_45
            Grigory_45 3 February 2018 19: 42
            +1
            Quote: Orionvit
            but let at least someone clearly explain the concept of its use in the military sphere.

            Well, in theory, the advantages on paper are tempting:
            1. no need to take corrections when shooting direct fire. (almost like a laser) The projectile flies steadily and quickly, the target does not have time to move a considerable distance
            2. Long range
            3. Great penetration (in principle, you can not even start explosives) - with a sufficient speed of energy meeting from the collision, a lot will stand out.
            4. lack of gunpowder and other easily combustible and explosive substances.

            Cons, we also know))
            as soon as they solve the problem with power supply (capacious, powerful, compact, lightweight and quickly renewable source) - it will be possible to apply.
            1. Orionvit
              Orionvit 4 February 2018 11: 43
              0
              Everything that you described has long been known. Your item
              2. Long range
              is doubtful. I hope there is no need to explain that the earth's surface has some curvature, due to the sphericity of the earth and the target at a distance of 5 km, it will already be on the horizon, and then it will already be hidden. In addition, air at high speeds is a fairly dense medium where the resistance force is proportional to the square of the speed and, accordingly, the projectile will slow down quite quickly, losing its effectiveness. It is curious who, in a modern battlefield, will approach close enough distance, so that you could open fire from a similar installation?
              as soon as they solve the problem with power supply (capacious, powerful, compact, lightweight and quickly renewable source)
              If only the installation will be portable, but so far only in science fiction films. So at this stage, the interest is purely scientific.
              1. Grigory_45
                Grigory_45 4 February 2018 12: 44
                0
                Quote: Orionvit
                So at this stage, the interest is purely scientific.

                in fact, he did not argue on this point. And all the rest will be a reality, subject to the decision of the last item.
                Quote: Orionvit
                Hopefully no need to explain that the earth's surface has some curvature

                it doesn’t interfere with rockets))
                Quote: Orionvit
                In addition, air at high speeds is a rather dense medium where the resistance force is proportional to the square of the speed and, accordingly, the projectile will slow down quite quickly

                choose the trajectory, the shape of the projectile. They are now flying over more than 130 km.
              2. Grigory_45
                Grigory_45 4 February 2018 12: 46
                0
                Quote: Orionvit
                Orionvit Today, 13:43 PM ↑ New
                Everything that you described has long been known

                so why then ask? Do you think a brand new thread was invented? request
                1. Orionvit
                  Orionvit 4 February 2018 13: 59
                  0
                  it doesn’t interfere with rockets
                  For reference, missiles fly along ballistic trajectories, with their own engine and with their own targeting system.
                  They are now flying over 130 km
                  Where to heaven? And what is the kinetic energy of this “shell” at the end of the trajectory? (Moreover, in any case, it will be ballistic) I suspect that it is equal to zero.
                  Do you think a brand new thread was invented?
                  I’m not making it up, I ask where exactly, in combat conditions, this device can be used. Is that a tank to knock out of an ambush. And the question is, is there such a thing as the range of a direct shot, and what is it like for such "guns"?
                  1. Grigory_45
                    Grigory_45 4 February 2018 17: 21
                    0
                    Quote: Orionvit
                    For reference, missiles fly along ballistic trajectories, with their own engine and with their own targeting system

                    the initial velocity of the railgun projectile is hypersonic. And for accuracy over-the-horizon distances you need, of course, an adjustable projectile. A long-range missile also has SU, at least some - otherwise you can get into a shed of a neighboring collective farm instead of a target laughing
                    Quote: Orionvit
                    They are now flying over 130 km
                    Where to heaven?

                    on land / surface targets, of course meant. Take an interest in HVP
                    Quote: Orionvit
                    What is the kinetic energy of this "shell" at the end of the trajectory? (Moreover, in any case, it will be ballistic) I suspect that it is equal to zero.

                    when falling from the stratosphere? Oh well...
                    Quote: Orionvit
                    I’m not making it up, I ask where exactly, in combat conditions, this device can be used.

                    So they answered you already. Depending on the size and rate of fire of the railgun, it is capable of replacing any classic artillery system (anti-aircraft gun, anti-tank), plus it is possible to throw the projectile far.
                    1. Orionvit
                      Orionvit 4 February 2018 17: 31
                      0
                      Quote: Gregory_45
                      for accuracy at horizontal distances you need, of course, an adjustable projectile
                      And right there
                      on land / surface targets, of course meant.
                      And this is 130 km?
                      plus there is the opportunity to throw the shell far.
                      For your reference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%
                      D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82
                      1. Grigory_45
                        Grigory_45 4 February 2018 18: 57
                        0
                        you would at least give unbroken links) It's a shame even)
                        In general, a railgun is the same gun, but instead of projectile propulsion, it uses not the energy of a burnt powder charge, but electromagnetic energy. Why do you need guns, you probably know?
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 2 February 2018 12: 55
    +7
    If we assume that this is a railgun, it means that it has passed the stage of closed ground tests, is recognized as satisfying the requirements (within the framework of TK and the design resource) and its “embarrassment” begins, and then this means that the Chinese are at the forefront in the issue of this weapon and can finish it before practical use in the very foreseeable future
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 2 February 2018 12: 59
      +1
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      If we assume that this is a railgun, then it means that it has passed the stage of closed ground tests, is recognized as satisfying the requirements (within the framework of TK and the design resource), and its "nagging" begins

      It looks like it.
    2. Alex-a832
      Alex-a832 2 February 2018 13: 35
      +3
      Given the design features of the railgun concepts, they can be placed either permanently, or on railway platforms, or on ships. Rather, the Chinese decided to figure out the meaning of continuing development through trials at the floating base. On the other hand, it is far from the fact that it is a railgun. It can be a well-camouflaged laser, for example.
      1. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 2 February 2018 17: 46
        +3
        Quote: Alex-a832
        It can be a well-camouflaged laser, for example.

        and why the barrel of the laser? ..))
    3. Kurare
      Kurare 2 February 2018 15: 11
      +3
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      If we assume that this is a railgun, then it means that it has passed the stage of closed ground tests, is recognized as satisfying the requirements (within the framework of TK and the design resource), and its "nagging" begins

      What I really like and what they should learn and do the same in Russia is that the nagging will take place not on the future carrier of a new weapon, but on a test platform.
      For its testing at the shipyard in Wuhan, the landing ship of project 072-III Haiyanshan was converted.

      And then we have everything tested on military units, burning their resources ... fool
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 2 February 2018 15: 17
        +4
        And then we have everything tested on military units, burning their resources ... fool
        we don’t have one !!! There are improvements in the process of surrendering to the fleet !!! am laughing hi
        1. Kurare
          Kurare 2 February 2018 17: 53
          +3
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          There are improvements in the process of surrendering to the fleet !!!

          You don’t have to go so far: how many “Polement-Redoubt” are tested and brought to the “Gorshkov”? And this is not his job. And there are more than enough such examples!
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 2 February 2018 17: 59
            +4
            we don’t have one !!! There are improvements in the process of surrendering to the fleet !!! am laughing hi
            Mr. Curare! This is just a joke of humor with a share of irony winked So you are absolutely right about Gorshkov and all other cases. Does Germany have different standards of humor? smile
            1. Kurare
              Kurare 2 February 2018 18: 04
              +3
              I understood the humor, I didn’t understand just what he was smile And so, probably the humor is a little different everywhere. Cultural differences smile
              1. KVU-NSVD
                KVU-NSVD 2 February 2018 18: 18
                +5
                I understood the humor, I didn’t understand just what he was
                Yes, just to cheer you up wink And often during discussions they go so far that they forget why the whole fuss
                1. Kurare
                  Kurare 2 February 2018 18: 25
                  +3
                  Quote: KVU-NSVD
                  Yes, just to cheer you up wink

                  What for! This is for me! smile good
          2. Grigory_45
            Grigory_45 2 February 2018 20: 57
            +3
            Quote: Kurare
            You don’t have to go so far: how many “Polement-Redoubt” are tested and brought to the “Gorshkov”? And this is not his job.

            There are different types of sanding systems. I can give two examples when it is practically impossible to debug at an object.
            1. This is a 2A42 gun. The Tulaks did it, but when they brought it to Kurgan, it sometimes smeared so that it did not even fall into the trap. I had to do a lot on my knee - and on the gun, and on the guidance system, and on the supply of ammunition. And everything separately works like a clock
            2. Such an example. The co-contractors brought in the latest PPOL system (fire fighting equipment. They don’t have a booth working — the nose mosquito will not undermine. We put it on the car, jamb after jamb, up to the inoperability of not only the software, but also of other systems. Just a little bug was in the software, but surfaced only when integrated into the machine’s equipment.
            1. Kurare
              Kurare 3 February 2018 01: 51
              +2
              Do not compare the installation of weapons / equipment on land objects with the installation on warships. These are, as they say in Odessa, "two big differences."
              All over the world, if of course it is possible, they try to install new systems on converted test ships, which are "not a pity" to drive as much as necessary until the main problems are resolved. Installing unfinished equipment on a combat unit is the wrong approach.
              1. Grigory_45
                Grigory_45 3 February 2018 02: 37
                +2
                Quote: Kurare
                Do not compare the installation of weapons / equipment on land objects with the installation on warships.

                yeah, in your opinion, the new system on land technology is immediately implemented on serial samples? Let me ask, where did you hear that? For this, one of the machines is selected (either the “experimental rabbit” in general, which they only do what they cook, cut, pull new plaits, etc.), or one of the experienced in the party. But the whole thing is that basically it corresponds to the machine on which the system is standing. Those. All information impact protocols are fully complied with. Otherwise, you will never catch "bugs" on the "simplified layout"
                The complex of ground-based tests of air defense systems passed (as reported) in 2010. The second stage - naturally, full-scale launches from the ship. Can you explain what the problem is? Now the shipbuilders are blaming Almaz Antey, those on the BIUS corvette.
                The duration of development and testing in ship conditions of a new generation medium-range air defense system is common to all such systems around the world. And if you take into account the detective story around this long-suffering air defense system, then everything becomes clear
                In addition, the unit is not combat until all of its systems are accepted by the customer. So far this is an experimental vessel. No one is needed without an air defense system; this is not a combat unit. Would they attach Wasp to him?
                Corvette "Clever" (with "Redoubt") went into operation.
                What problems hinder Polyment? Maybe some of them are contrived? Misses, shows a smaller declared range, generally missiles do not go out of the UVP?
                1. Kurare
                  Kurare 4 February 2018 16: 31
                  +2
                  Quote: Gregory_45
                  yeah, in your opinion, the new system on land technology is immediately implemented on serial samples?

                  Did I write such a thing somewhere? Just putting equipment for the ground forces on, as you put it, "experimental rabbit" is easier and much cheaper. Experienced Tanks, BMPs, armored personnel carriers do not make any comparisons in the cost of test tests with the same missile boat, let alone corvette or frigate.
                  Quote: Gregory_45
                  The complex of ground-based tests of air defense systems passed (as reported) in 2010. The second stage - naturally, full-scale launches from the ship. Can you explain what the problem is? Now the shipbuilders are blaming Almaz Antey, those on the BIUS corvette.

                  The fact of the matter is that the second stage of the tests had to be done not on a combat unit, in this case a corvette, but on an experimental ship, which was converted as close as possible to the main carrier. Well, and when the main problems are resolved, the final acceptance is done on a combat vehicle.
                  If we eradicate childhood illnesses on a combat vehicle, then the ressource of the combat ship is simply foolishly and without sense.
                  1. Grigory_45
                    Grigory_45 4 February 2018 17: 10
                    +1
                    Quote: Kurare
                    Experienced Tanks, BMPs, armored personnel carriers do not make any comparisons in terms of cost of test tests

                    Well, we are not guilty, that we have smaller equipment)
                    You know better than me that electronics is one of the most expensive articles of a military unit. It was necessary to have the same BIOS as on the frigate, if you put the air defense system on some decommissioned guard. We decided to save. And my opinion was (personal) that Polymenta had not only technical problems, which had never accelerated work
                    1. Kurare
                      Kurare 4 February 2018 19: 48
                      +2
                      Quote: Gregory_45
                      Well, we are not guilty, that we have smaller equipment)

                      Well, that is, that is)) No wonder they say you want to ruin a small country, give it a cruiser. )))
                      Quote: Gregory_45
                      It was necessary to have the same BIOS as on the frigate, if you put the air defense system on some decommissioned guard. We decided to save.

                      Yes, we decided to "save." Unfortunately, such a tradition dates back to the time of the USSR, when not combat units entered the sea, but under -...
                      In general, special test platforms are created for such purposes. If we take ships by analogy for the training of the moroman, then this is approximately the same, only for the "training of hardware and software." To do this, they must be made as a LEGO constructor, on which you can test starting from the mover and ending with the BIOS with a set of weapons.
                      1. Grigory_45
                        Grigory_45 4 February 2018 20: 31
                        0
                        Quote: Kurare
                        In general, special test platforms are created for such purposes.

                        Well, I remember, during the Soviet Union there were such people on whom missile and artillery weapons, as well as space communications, were tested. Based on the cruiser 68 bis, if sclerosis does not fail)
  6. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 2 February 2018 13: 00
    +3
    China is trying to try everything, it’ll work out well (we are now ahead of the rest) ... it won’t work out - it’s also good (after all, we tried it)
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 2 February 2018 13: 22
      +2
      Quote: Alexey-74
      it will turn out-well (we are now ahead of the rest) ... it will not work out - also not bad (after all, we tried)

      Experience is the son of difficult mistakes. So the classic wrote.
    2. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 2 February 2018 21: 12
      +2
      Quote: Alexey-74
      China is trying to try everything, it’ll work out well (we are now ahead of the rest) ... it won’t work out - it’s also good (after all, we tried it)

      Well, yes, over China, as over the United States, Russia or anyone else who will not laugh and poke a finger. It so happened in the world ..
  7. Lenivets2
    Lenivets2 2 February 2018 15: 00
    +1
    A railgun with such a caliber and with such a short barrel ?! belay
    And where are the pictures of cables to the nuclear power plant?
    Well, zhurnalyug has fantasy. hi
    1. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 2 February 2018 17: 42
      +4
      Quote: Lenivets2
      And where are the pictures of cables to the nuclear power plant

      Chinese cables are the thinnest cables in the world! laughing
      1. Lenivets2
        Lenivets2 3 February 2018 14: 15
        +1
        Railgun in Russia accelerates a projectile of 10 grams and requires a non-child power plant.
        In the United States, the railgun accelerates a projectile weighing 3 kg and requires a power plant of the latest destroyer, and since this is not enough, it is made combined (combined with a powder charge).
        Well, the Chinese do not care, onizh technology from aliens received.
        And they can disperse 10-kg shells on a short-barrel little gun and not connected to the nuclear power plant. wassat
  8. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 2 February 2018 15: 35
    +1
    Noble caliber at the gun! good This is the right decision, well done Chinese, they listened to Kaptsov.
    The armor would have been, the armor of the ship!
    1. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 2 February 2018 17: 41
      +3
      Quote: Archivist Vasya
      The armor would still be, the armor of the ship

      .. electromagnet! To bounce shells of adversaries) And even better - flew back))
  9. Grigory_45
    Grigory_45 2 February 2018 17: 40
    +3
    On the deck of the ship, containers were also installed in which electrical equipment was allegedly located.

    It looks like a railgun mounted on a Type 072III landing ship. But some kind of railgun is very strange ... Although, if the Chinese did not deceive with the captions to the picture, then it was he, the Gaussian maid gun Chin)
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  11. Orionvit
    Orionvit 4 February 2018 20: 39
    0
    Grigory_45,

    The link is normal, checked. Is it really hard to copy to the address bar of the browser? Or in extreme cases, type in the “horizon line” on Wikipedia, and then all of the “superiority” of the rail-logotron disappears. I know perfectly well what an artillery gun is (in your opinion a cannon), although I have worked most of my life in the field of guided missile weapons, though in that part that concerns power plants (engines). And here is my father, who served as an artillery officer in the Soviet Army for 25 years. So I am guided by a question, and education allows. I'll tell you straight. At this stage of technology development, ground artillery, with the assistance of aviation and high-precision missile weapons, copes with its tasks quite successfully. And I do not see the scope of railguns, except for applied scientific research. And fiction, I also love.
    1. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 5 February 2018 20: 31
      0
      Quote: Orionvit
      The link is normal, checked. Is it really hard to copy to the address bar of the browser?

      Will you still teach me how to use a computer? Do you think I got off a palm tree yesterday and only today saw this miraculous device? Do you take too much on yourself?
      Quote: Orionvit
      I know what an artillery gun is.

      Then what is the problem? The tool remains a tool, even with the help of gunpowder from it throw a projectile, even with the help of electromagnetic energy. Do you have cognitive dissonance?
      Quote: Orionvit
      I'll tell you straight. At this stage of technology development, ground artillery, with the assistance of aviation and high-precision missile weapons, copes with its tasks quite successfully.

      otherwise I don’t know? Although, judging by the mentor tone, you are accustomed to teach and to teach, considering yourself a Guru, and all steel are stupid. I dare to assure you, a very slippery path. on which you can fill yourself cones and be very embarrassed.
      Now gunpowder artillery guns are approaching their physical limits (primarily in terms of gunpowder combustion rate). therefore, research is underway on alternative methods of dispersing the projectile.
      Quote: Orionvit
      And I do not see the scope of railguns, except for applied scientific research.

      Was it not your fate to read the comments more carefully, and not to make yourself a wise guy?
      Quote: Gregory_45
      as soon as they solve the problem with power supply (capacious, powerful, compact, lightweight and quickly renewable source) - it will be possible to apply.

      Quote: Gregory_45
      Gregory_45 February 3, 2018 21:44 p.m. ↑
      Quote: kamski
      I think the US has such a gun
      Of course there is) Like many. Purely as a laboratory setup))

      Got into a puddle? It would be better to read the fiction you
      Quote: Orionvit
      also love
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 5 February 2018 21: 52
        0
        Quote: Gregory_45
        Do you think I got off a palm tree yesterday and only today saw this miraculous device? Do you take too much on yourself?

        Not too much. If a person goes in cycles on his own wave, is absolutely alien to logic and is in his “technical fantasies”, then your problems. Please invent, build, apply this "crown of human invention" and you will be happy. Anyway, like a real weapon in modern warfare, this is a dummy for suckers. laughing
        1. Grigory_45
          Grigory_45 5 February 2018 22: 34
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          Quote: Orionvit
          If a man is fixated on his wave

          that's it. Keep swimming on it. Everyone understands that now the railgun as a military weapon is unsuitable, and that’s out of the question. And the future will show. They did not believe in many types of weapons, the same skeptics like you. While they one day is not very beautiful for someone to declare themselves. Serve you all at once on a silver platter. Designers are usually somewhat farsighted and do without so much ambition. Stuffs up, you know