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Turkish General Staff: Igla MANPADS and RPG-7 were found at Kurdish positions in the Afrin region

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Turkish media continue to publish publications that talk about the use of “Russian” weapons by the Kurdish armed units in the Afrin area. Eve pages Anadolu There was a material in which the “Russian” was called ATGM “Konkurs”, which was produced not only in the USSR and the Russian Federation, but also in India, the GDR (before the unification of Germany) and Iran. Today, the same news agency writes about the finding of Igla, a man-portable air defense missile system (MANPADS), on Kurdish positions in the Afrin region (the NATO classification is SA-18).




It is also reported that 4 Kalashnikov assault rifles, two light machine guns, two RPG-7 grenade launchers, not counting ammunition and the other weapons, including pistols and sniper rifles. This time the Turkish media decided not to add the term “Russian weapons” to the title of the material.

For reference: “Igla” MANPADS is in service with armies of about four dozen countries of the world, including Lebanon, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Iran, Syria and other countries.

"Anadolu" refers to the data of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Turkey, which also reported on the transfer of armed Kurdish PYD / PKK groups to Turkey through the Nur (Amanos) mountain range. It is stated that these groups are well-armed and are preparing military operations in Turkish territory - in areas populated mainly by ethnic Kurds.

Recall that the Turkish troops are conducting an “Olive Branch” operation on the territory of the SAR, which is not authorized by the UN Security Council or the authorities of the Syrian Arab Republic.
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  1. Angel_and_Demon
    Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 11: 53
    22
    4 Kalashnikov assault rifles, two light machine guns, two RPG-7 grenade launchers were discovered, not counting ammunition and other weapons, including pistols and sniper rifles. This time, Turkish media decided not to add the term "Russian weapons" to the title of the material.
    and if they had found the M16, would they really have blamed America?
    1. dorz
      dorz 2 February 2018 11: 55
      15
      Detected MANPADS "Igla" and RPG-7

      Surprisingly, the Russian balalaikas did not find it.
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 11: 58
        22
        Quote: dorz
        Surprisingly, the Russian balalaikas did not find it.

        they, along with vodka, were carried away by a bear bully
        1. Cheechmarino
          Cheechmarino 2 February 2018 12: 17
          +6
          In the den, under a personal nuclear reactor.
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 12: 18
            +9
            Quote: CheechMarino
            In the den, under a personal nuclear reactor.

            with the spaceport
        2. Serving the Fatherland
          Serving the Fatherland 2 February 2018 14: 27
          +5
          No, he didn’t carry it away, but sailed to the nuclear submarine, through the Belorussian Sea! wassat
        3. sergel1717
          sergel1717 6 February 2018 00: 55
          0
          In a hat with earflaps ....
      2. 210ox
        210ox 2 February 2018 11: 59
        +1
        But actually what’s next? We supply any and all "popuasami" ....
        1. ul_vitalii
          ul_vitalii 2 February 2018 12: 13
          11
          It is journalists who are hungry, and so on tags, painting, operational data, etc. experts will immediately understand the origin of the weapons, and the Turks are silent.
      3. Warrior with machine gun
        Warrior with machine gun 2 February 2018 12: 10
        +4
        the most amazing find would be Kalashnikovs, and what do they want for their findings, coupons for increased food? What do they do there.
        1. Proclus Proclusus
          Proclus Proclusus 9 February 2018 16: 57
          +1
          how can one determine how horrible MANPADS are to terrorists? If Russia sells weapons to everyone, just to buy ???? Or what if Booth is sitting, then there is no one else to illegally sell weapons?
          1. Warrior with machine gun
            Warrior with machine gun 9 February 2018 17: 21
            +2
            and what except Russia (according to your data) no one else sells weapons to anyone?
      4. Baloo
        Baloo 2 February 2018 12: 49
        +3
        Quote: dorz
        Surprisingly, the Russian balalaikas did not find

        It's only the beginning.
      5. Serving the Fatherland
        Serving the Fatherland 2 February 2018 14: 23
        +2
        I forgot about the drunk bear! And white! wassat
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 2 February 2018 12: 36
      +9
      Let them scream anything, the main thing is that they would wet each other and not stop, not bloodthirsty, just to such friends, you can’t turn your back, the knives are always ready. yes
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 12: 39
        +6
        Quote: vlad66
        the main thing is to wet each other and not stop

        and we need to help them with this
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 2 February 2018 13: 00
      +4
      The Kurds can find a lot to make the Turks wonder. winked
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 13: 06
        +4
        Quote: siberalt
        so that the Turks are surprised.

        you don’t surprise them in my opinion after a mattress coup laughing
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 2 February 2018 11: 53
    12
    At the positions of the Kurds in the Afrin region, Igla and RPG-7 MANPADS were discovered

    Yesterday, they discussed the "news" about the "discovery" of Kurds ATGM "Competition" ...
    How many more wonderful surprises did the NATO allies prepare for the Turks ...
    ... For reference: ATGM Igla is in service ...

    Since when did Igla become ATGM ???
    Before posting information, the moderators at least bothered to check the contents ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 2 February 2018 12: 29
      +4
      Quote: Andrey K
      Yesterday, they discussed the "news" about the "discovery" of Kurds ATGM "Competition" ...

      MANPADS at a completely different calico

      They are numbered, the UN and the OSCE independently carry out it. And you can quite easily calculate the country of origin.

      Of course, if there is a desire. The Ukrainians themselves did not do this in principle, preferring to unfoldly accuse Russia. Apparently, number accounting indicated their own warehouses.
    2. SEER
      SEER 2 February 2018 12: 35
      +4
      Quote: Andrey K
      At the positions of the Kurds in the Afrin region, Igla and RPG-7 MANPADS were discovered

      Yesterday, they discussed the "news" about the "discovery" of Kurds ATGM "Competition" ...
      How many more wonderful surprises did the NATO allies prepare for the Turks ...
      ... For reference: ATGM Igla is in service ...

      Since when did Igla become ATGM ???

      one Soviet comedian had one reprise:
      "we got a crocodile:
      from head to tail 7 meters.
      and from tail to head - 8 meters.
      - how so ??
      and our crocodile! as we want and measure it !! "
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 February 2018 11: 53
    +3
    Well, found and found ... Better tell me when you find where they got from there ...
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 2 February 2018 12: 22
      +7
      Really, the Americans will give the Kurds their weapons, they have in the warehouses of the CIA this good above the roof.
  4. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2018 11: 53
    +3
    Turkish General Staff: Igla MANPADS and RPG-7 were found at Kurdish positions in the Afrin region
    begins .... their failures, it is necessary to write off someone. didn’t you try to call the Bulgarians?
    1. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 11: 59
      +4
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      begins .... their failures, it is necessary to write off someone.

      maybe everything was paid by the Kremlin? Hiden advertisment?
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 2 February 2018 12: 38
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      . your failures, you must blame someone.

      hi
      Turks should not run into "failures" and behave in accordance with the agreements. The thesis "what I want, then turn over" will not work.
    3. pytar
      pytar 2 February 2018 12: 44
      +5
      begins .... their failures, it is necessary to write off someone. didn’t you try to call the Bulgarians?

      laughing good Listened to conversation:
      Erdogan calls the Bulgarians:
      -Hey, Bulgarlar! Bir PZRK teslim etmediniz mi? angry (To her, the Bulgarians! Have you accidentally delivered PeZRKazoglu to the Kurds?)
      Bulgarians Erdogan:
      -Nye not! At kurdit sistia MANPADS, the purchase of kupichte and deliver on turkomanita and igilovtsite! hi (We are not! The Kurds have those MANPADS that you bought and supplied to Turkoman and Igilov!)
      Erdogan:
      -Vay Allah, vay Allah! Kayınbiradamım Selçuk Bayraktar alıcının adresini tekrar yanlış yapmış! Kıza söyledim, bu çocuk rüzgârlı! belay (Wai Allah, wai Allah! My brother-in-law Seljuk Bayraktar again confused the address of the recipient! I told my daughter that this guy was windy!)
      As our informant understood, the error occurred because Erdogan told his son-in-law to put up weapons to the terrorists! Bairaktar / son-in-law / having read on Turkish newspapers is naive, he understood literally without realizing that it was a question of "our" terrorists, and not of the Kurds! lol
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 13: 09
        +5
        Cool, you have a good informant, and what else can you share?
        1. pytar
          pytar 2 February 2018 13: 42
          +2
          Cool, you have a good informant, and what else can you share?

          All in due time! Issue secret data in advance, we can not! fellow So that they would not give a reason to the Turks, they will justify themselves for their failures with us! At that time I’ll say in secret that soon the Kurds will have Turkish-made weapons, which were in service with the Turkish army! wink Agree that it is more difficult for Turkish soldiers to run away loaded with iron! Throw and ... really be able to break a poor Olympic record for fast running! laughing
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 13: 45
            +5
            Quote: pytar
            and that moment I’ll say in secret that soon the Kurds will have Turkish-made weapons, which were in service with the Turkish army!

            this movie will be, went for the seeds
      2. pilot69
        pilot69 2 February 2018 13: 31
        +1
        In addition, as another unnamed source said, a secret military map was found there in a three-dimensional image with the coordinates "X", "Y" and some other obscure Russian letter drawn on the fence laughing
        1. pytar
          pytar 2 February 2018 13: 56
          +2
          In addition ... there was also discovered a secret military map in a three-dimensional image with the coordinates "X", "Y" and some other obscure Russian letter ...

          Your information is confirmed! The card was signed personally by GDP! yes After all, do you know EGO effective three-dimensional signature? wink About these 3 letters, everything is also true! Turkish genshab broke his computers before he could decipher them! And here again the "Bulgarian" trace can be traced! By chance, one Bulgarian trucker "helped" the Turks to figure it out, from whom the Turkish car driver demanded a bribe! "Go to %§&!!!" the Bulgarian shouted to the Turk! It is in view of the closeness of the Russian and Bulgarian languages, many words are the same ... An awesome car worker, he immediately reported on the origins and so it came down to the genzhab vertically! lol
          1. pilot69
            pilot69 2 February 2018 14: 28
            +1
            My source confirms this. laughing Now the entire Turkish General Staff is busy “overlaying” this image on its secret military maps and plans hi
        2. mihey
          mihey 2 February 2018 14: 30
          0
          Quote: pilot69
          some other obscure Russian letter

          Um ... this is one of the signs used in higher mathematics (not a joke)
          1. pilot69
            pilot69 2 February 2018 14: 42
            +1
            It is unlikely that the Turks are familiar with higher mathematics; when calculating profits for tomatoes, it is not needed wink
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 2 February 2018 11: 56
    +7
    It is also reported that 4 Kalashnikov assault rifles, two light machine guns, two RPG-7 grenade launchers were found,
    And one and a half footcloths with traces of sweat, a kirzach the size of commercials forty-seven, two toffee
    , a bottle of vodka and obscure encrypted decals on the fence laughing
  6. Bypassed
    Bypassed 2 February 2018 12: 10
    +4
    They themselves make fun of them - after all, weapons were found in Syria, not Turkey
    I’m embarrassed to ask - what weapons do the Turkoman and the Syrian liberators have, which Turkey supports?
    1. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 2 February 2018 12: 27
      +1
      Presumably, the Americans, who "helped" the Kurds, were interested not to be substituted by the "Stingers" ... And whose Kalashnikovs were they made? His half-world produces.
    2. pytar
      pytar 2 February 2018 14: 03
      0
      I’m embarrassed to ask - what weapons do the Turkoman and the Syrian liberators have, which Turkey supports?

      To such an uncomfortable question, the Turks are shy to answer! You probably know how shy they are sometimes ... lol
  7. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 2 February 2018 12: 17
    +1
    It’s good that they didn’t find the MP-40 - Hitler sold it!
    And what about Maxim machine guns?
    So where did the militants in Chechnya turn out? And Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, finally? There really cannot be such a weapon!
  8. demo
    demo 2 February 2018 12: 45
    +3
    On each, I emphasize, on each unit of military property, and especially on weapons, a serial number is placed.
    Arms factories in the Russian Federation - a place of special control and accounting.
    So, on the military equipment that is found there are hallmarks.
    By which it is possible to determine not only the country of the manufacturer, but also to trace all the way from the manufacturer to the consumer.
    The weapon is not potato. Not just selling, not just buying.
    Especially the party. Especially the party for the war.

    Even if we imagine that we decided to release a batch of weapons for the Kurds, it is necessary, at a minimum, to give a written order to the plant management. The leadership initiative is a prison.
    A week later, the floor of the plant "in fear of great secrecy" will know about it.
    In a month, half of the city will conduct dialogues about weapons without numbers and stigmas.
    Nonsense? Pure water. Under the USSR, this was possible. But now - not an option.
  9. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 2 February 2018 12: 46
    +3
    Well, such accents in the Turkish press indicate that our centuries-old "friendship of peoples" has not been forgotten - it smolders to the point ...
  10. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 2 February 2018 12: 54
    0
    When you watch videos from military operations in the BV .... practically every militant, soldier, "oppositionist", any practically has AK of various modifications ...... and what follows from this? Why such pearls from the Turkish media? About Igloo and anti-tank systems, so there are a lot of them in the whole Middle East ....
  11. karelia-molot
    karelia-molot 2 February 2018 13: 11
    +3
    Have you found? Well, lucky cho. Someone lost, they found. Let them take it to the lost property office.
  12. Monarchist
    Monarchist 2 February 2018 13: 24
    +1
    If there were NO RPGs or MANPADS at all, I would be very surprised: the Americans themselves recognize the reliability of our AKs. A weapon is such a product that it does not "sit" in one place. The Syrian army is armed with Russian weapons, and Kurdish troops operate in Syria.
    “It is stated that these groups are well armed and are preparing for military operations on Turkish territory” it would be strange if the Kurdish DRGs going to Turkey went without any weapons. Remember the beginning of the Second World War: recruits were armed at random, DRGs were provided with weapons and ammunition
  13. Romanenko
    Romanenko 2 February 2018 13: 42
    0
    Needle AK and RPG are generally strong arguments in favor of Russia's support for the Kurds !!!
    ZU-23, T-34-85, or is there still some antique utensils still lying around?
  14. Radikal
    Radikal 2 February 2018 15: 01
    +1
    Turkish General Staff: Igla MANPADS and RPG-7 were found at Kurdish positions in the Afrin region
    In short, it seems that the Turks are holding events to inform the operation of accusing Russia of helping the Kurds and violating bilateral agreements, thereby obtaining a formal reason for breaking these agreements with Russia. Will we wait for a new “stab in the back"? sad
  15. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 2 February 2018 15: 20
    0
    Something NATO weapons are not found. Either the Kurds are not the same, or they have already managed to sell.
  16. Mih1974
    Mih1974 2 February 2018 15: 33
    +1
    You know, and this can even be and should be used as an occasion for others to buy our weapons repeat . You can say to the same Chinese or Australians "look at how good the American technique was with the Turks, but even so wild how Kurds with our weapons destroy such beautiful specimens in two times good ". As the saying goes" nothing personal, only business bully
  17. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 2 February 2018 19: 26
    0
    Definitely, Putin personally sent! No one else.
    And if so: we will fully get even for our downed Su-24.
  18. muhomor
    muhomor 2 February 2018 20: 53
    0
    And there is also discovered instructions written and signed by Shoigu. As well as a passport of GDP.
  19. Cynic
    Cynic 3 February 2018 14: 59
    0
    Baby talk, otherwise they don’t know anything stupid!
    The Turks say what they WANT to say ... So they need something to fuck
  20. serge siberian
    serge siberian 3 February 2018 19: 04
    +1
    And what, guys, perhaps the most mass product of the defense industry of the USSR, and subsequently the Russian Federation, and a couple of dozens of countries of the world, found in the sand, does not mean its reliability. And RPGs and stripes are stamped. And they say they like it, from Vietnam itself . negative hi
  21. Valery Saitov
    Valery Saitov 7 February 2018 10: 54
    0
    Turks will dismiss everything because everything goes across their border, even Americans move in the same way and carry weapons from their airbases in Turkey.
  22. Vitaly Aaa
    Vitaly Aaa 8 February 2018 10: 17
    +1
    Turkey will fall.
    1. pytar
      pytar 8 February 2018 10: 48
      0
      Turkey ke padne! (Wanga)
  23. Good cat
    Good cat 10 February 2018 13: 25
    0
    And they did not find piglets with Russian passports in the trough there?
  24. Good cat
    Good cat 10 February 2018 13: 26
    0
    Quote: Metallurg_2
    Definitely, Putin personally sent! No one else.
    And if so: we will fully get even for our downed Su-24.

    In this case, the su-25