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In the US, responded to the proposal of Moscow on cross-border flights

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The Russian proposal to agree on the rules for cross-border flights at the Pentagon responded that American pilots operate safely within the framework of existing international standards and expect the same from Russian pilots, reports RIA News.




Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry reported that the Su-27 fighter intercepted the plane over neutral waters. The State Department immediately accused Moscow of “neglecting international norms and gross violation of the agreement on preventing incidents at sea and above it (1972 year)”.

Meanwhile, the Russian military stressed that the Su-27 maneuvers "were standard, absolutely legal and completely safe" and suggested that the Americans exclude such flights near the borders of the Russian Federation or agree on the rules for their implementation.

The United States reserves the right to act freely in accordance with international laws and regulations. We expect safe and professional behavior of all parties, including Russia, in the international water and airspace,
answered in the US military department.

They added, the pilots of the US Air Force "prepared from a professional point of view."
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RIA News / US European Command
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 February 2018 09: 48
    26
    The United States reserves the right to act freely in accordance with international laws and regulations.

    Well, we are near our borders - MORE THAN !!! angry
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 2 February 2018 09: 52
      +7
      Will continue to intercept the adversary’s plane fellow
      1. ljoha_d
        ljoha_d 2 February 2018 20: 41
        +4
        Our pilots are just HELLOs, and let the ear-hooks patrol the borders of their Texas
    2. Igor Pushkino
      Igor Pushkino 2 February 2018 09: 52
      14
      It is pleasant, chosen to fly over Crimea itself! They do not recognize the fact of joining: but flying is not a hotstsa ...
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 2 February 2018 09: 57
        12
        Do not agree !!! HOORAY !!! Now there is something to discuss!
        1. novel66
          novel66 2 February 2018 10: 07
          +5
          and I said - ambition will not allow !!!!
        2. vlad66
          vlad66 2 February 2018 10: 39
          12
          The USA reserves the right to act freely in accordance with international laws and regulations.

          And Russia reserves the right
          Su-27 maneuvers “were standard, absolutely legal and completely safe” and suggested that the Americans exclude such flights near the borders of the Russian Federation

          Poke your earplugs get. yes
      2. You Vlad
        You Vlad 2 February 2018 10: 31
        +2
        Quote: Igor Pushkino
        They do not recognize the fact of joining: but flying is not a hotstsa ...

        They can shoot down however yes Recognize not recognize, but the fact will remain a fact, our Crimea and we will protect it with all the tools we have wink
      3. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 2 February 2018 10: 48
        +1
        Quote: Igor Pushkino
        It is pleasant, chosen to fly over Crimea itself! They do not recognize the fact of joining: but flying is not a hotstsa ...

        Just then fly over the Crimea now as hotstsabut scary!
    3. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 09: 57
      +5
      Quote: aszzz888
      Well, we are near our borders - MORE THAN !!!

      and see how
      US Air Force pilots "trained from a professional point of view."
    4. Cutter
      Cutter 2 February 2018 09: 59
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      The United States reserves the right to act freely in accordance with international laws and regulations.

      Well, we are near our borders - MORE THAN !!! angry

      hi Exactly!!! hi In general, I don’t quite understand why they should offer something ??? A bear is sleeping, don’t wake up, he’ll get more expensive for himself, oh arrogant play out ... fool
  2. PROXOR
    PROXOR 2 February 2018 09: 51
    0
    Chasing bitch children. To be afraid !!!!
  3. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 2 February 2018 09: 51
    +1
    Well then, let them fly in diapers and eat Valerian before departure, liters. No one here will offer them salt and hot kisses.
  4. Dormidont
    Dormidont 2 February 2018 09: 52
    11
    Our answer to Chamberlain
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 February 2018 10: 00
    11
    The United States reserves the right to act freely in accordance with international laws and regulations.
    It’s clear that they don’t want to negotiate, but they suddenly remembered international law, which had long been erased from their foreign policy activities. If your pilots are so “professionally trained,” then what are they complaining about and drooling after the legitimate approach of a Russian plane? For some reason, Americans consider the Russian border in the waters and airspace of the Black Sea to be their area of ​​interest while forgetting whose border it is.
    1. BVS
      BVS 2 February 2018 10: 13
      +3
      I did not understand your post. Americans fly in a neutral sky, which borders and whose side nobody cares. They do not cross the air border of the Russian Federation. And what is the "legal approach of the Russian aircraft" in a neutral sky? It is free for everyone. According to international requirements, the minimum distance between aircraft is 300 meters. Like this.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2018 10: 21
        18
        Quote: bvs
        I did not understand your post. Americans fly in a neutral sky, which borders and whose side nobody cares. They do not cross the air border of the Russian Federation. And what is the "legal approach of the Russian aircraft" in a neutral sky? It is free for everyone.

        if you walked under my windows looking into them, I, too, like our pilots would go out and "pile" you ... - so understandable?
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 2 February 2018 10: 24
          +4
          As I understand it, BVS believes that Americans have the right to fly, and ours do not. This alone is enough to understand
          What is the "legal approach of a Russian airplane" in a neutral sky?
          Strange logic.
          1. BVS
            BVS 2 February 2018 10: 32
            +3
            In a neutral sky, EVERYONE has the right to fly according to international air rules - not to approach another aircraft at a distance closer than 300 meters. And that’s all!
            1. rotmistr60
              rotmistr60 2 February 2018 10: 38
              14
              Do not approach another aircraft closer than 300 meters. And that’s all!
              Have you seen footage of escorting our aircraft by NATO aircraft over the Baltic? You will probably be very surprised, but NATO aircraft are approaching our almost wing to wing. At the same time, our pilots for some reason do not get nervous and do not complain, like Western "aces".
            2. KCA
              KCA 2 February 2018 10: 48
              +1
              Unfortunately, the SU-27 fogged the lantern glass, and the American flew with the transponder and side lights turned off, as a result of which our pilot was not able to accurately determine the distance, I thought that it was 300 meters away, but it turned out to be 3
            3. The comment was deleted.
        2. BVS
          BVS 2 February 2018 10: 30
          0
          That is, if you live in a house that overlooks the city street, then you will - "went out and" heaped "to you"? I think the answer is unpleasant.
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 2 February 2018 12: 03
            +6
            Quote: bvs
            if YOU live in a house that overlooks a city street, will you go out and “pile on” you? I think the answer is unpleasant.

            According to international rules, there are air corridors (as you say, a city street), and transponders that determine the ownership of an aircraft, on the basis of which, ground controllers regulate air traffic. But if, "someone in black," "at night," snoops around your windows, which generally go out into the garden, you will probably be interested. How do you like this answer?
          2. sogdy
            sogdy 2 February 2018 12: 33
            +4
            Above the Black Sea there is a zone of Russian interests. And there is no "neutral sky."
            And yes, they don’t look at us from the street. And lovers to drop in and passers-by pile up. For nefig.
          3. user1212
            user1212 3 February 2018 06: 12
            +1
            Quote: bvs
            That is, if you live in a house that overlooks the city street, then you will - "went out and" heaped "to you"? I think the answer is an unpleasant answer

            Well, if you look in the mask (the identification equipment is turned off) and with a flashlight (reconnaissance equipment) then yes. Are you afraid to protect your home and family? This is national in France, apparently laughing
      2. lukewarm
        lukewarm 2 February 2018 10: 53
        +2
        If you watch a video of many other interceptions, not only ours but also ours - there’s no talk of any 300 meters anywhere. This is an eternal topic. Apparently these rules are followed only by civilians. I didn’t cross the course, I didn’t throw it - and let them say thanks for that. And protests and answers are routine. There were and will be.
      3. ochakow703
        ochakow703 2 February 2018 11: 15
        +1
        In, drew! Have you ever seen the globe? Where is America there? Woooo, in the other hemisphere. So let the military flyers plan near their gangster country, and why fly to kind people on scouts, and then drive an atomic aircraft carrier to intercept a peaceful hydrograph. It does not fit somehow into the mind. Well, if the French fell under the Americans and get high, then this is your problem. You and Mistral, to your own detriment, in violation of all agreements have not given. Horned and bearded animals, however.
      4. Beholder
        Beholder 2 February 2018 11: 23
        +3
        [quote = BVS] I did not understand your post. Americans fly in a neutral sky, which borders and whose side nobody cares. They do not cross the air border of the Russian Federation. And what is the "legal approach of the Russian aircraft" in a neutral sky? It is free for everyone. According to international requirements, the minimum distance between aircraft is 300 meters. Like this. [/ Quote]

        Minimum distance for aircraft with transponders on!

        [quote] We also draw attention to the fact that for Russian fighter aircraft the "interception" of air targets approaching the state border with the transponders turned off lasts a few minutes. Therefore, the actions of the Russian Su-27, which suppressed more than two hours and twenty minutes the attempts of the American reconnaissance aircraft ER-3E Aries II to approach the border of the airspace of the Russian Federation in the Crimea, are correctly called "escort"
        - emphasized in MO. [quote]
        1. ochakow703
          ochakow703 11 February 2018 09: 36
          0
          "It is free for all." Nah, buddy, it’s much freer for the sastikas than for everyone else. Here, a very close event, they divided the Syrian army in their own territory, in their own - sovereign airspace. They must be chased everywhere like lousy cats, and spread rot and troll, they do not deserve more. They have not yet answered for the genocide of the Indians.
  6. HEATHER
    HEATHER 2 February 2018 10: 03
    +5
    Crush this trash in our territories. And our territories are now everywhere. An earth ball is no longer for the former hegemon. We can only give scarves for snot.
  7. starogil
    starogil 2 February 2018 10: 04
    0
    "... They added, the US Air Force pilots are" trained from a professional point of view. "..."
    Fill a couple of those interested, professionally, may beware of starting.
    1. novel66
      novel66 2 February 2018 10: 08
      +1
      just shitting - it means professionally not ready!
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 2 February 2018 12: 40
        0
        Or maybe they have such a profession?
        1. novel66
          novel66 2 February 2018 12: 53
          +1
          hare is not a profession, but a life position
  8. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 2 February 2018 10: 05
    +4
    About mercy about the law remembered? Are they also in accordance with the law in Syria? In / in Ukraine Piglet and Natsik also legally brought to power? Etc. thieves legalists!
  9. Simon
    Simon 2 February 2018 10: 06
    +2
    Quote: aszzz888
    The United States reserves the right to act freely in accordance with international laws and regulations.
    Well, we are near our borders - MORE THAN !!!

    Then, according to these rules, let our planes fly near the American borders!
    1. Berkut
      Berkut 2 February 2018 10: 10
      +2
      They fly.
  10. axiles100682
    axiles100682 2 February 2018 10: 07
    +1
    Well, if the pilots are trained professionally then don’t whine then.
  11. Altona
    Altona 2 February 2018 10: 08
    +1
    It is necessary to crush the hegemon with brute force and put it in place, and not become in the pose of a broken birch with its oligarchy. And then the status quo will be restored. And it’s too much, not as a president, but as a sex in a roadside restaurant.
    1. jjj
      jjj 2 February 2018 11: 00
      +4
      With the phrase "airplane and broken birch", the Polish authorities fall into a stupor every time
  12. Berkut
    Berkut 2 February 2018 10: 09
    0
    Late. All news feeds wrote about this two days ago.
  13. Simon
    Simon 2 February 2018 10: 13
    +1
    Quote: Golden Eagle
    They fly.

    But ours, on this occasion, do not bark like tower dogs! request
  14. Pacifist
    Pacifist 2 February 2018 10: 24
    +1
    Well, after such statements, you can only offer the Russian Ministry of Defense to come to an agreement with Cuba, deploy reconnaissance aircraft and the RER center at their airfields, and begin flights along the US coast, and we can buy fish for beer and start watching the State Department Fountain. drinks
    1. BVS
      BVS 2 February 2018 10: 34
      +1
      And what's the problem? Why the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not fulfill your proposal, it has been offered for many many years, and things are still there. Not so simple.
      1. Pacifist
        Pacifist 2 February 2018 10: 59
        +4
        Everything is just simple, but ours are constantly trying to reach the brain of the "partners", and there in fact the web and darkness, unfortunately.
  15. Berkut24
    Berkut24 2 February 2018 10: 31
    +1
    Well there is no way. Breathe in tangled jets.
  16. Angara
    Angara 2 February 2018 10: 53
    0
    Mournful again: we do what we want, and you must do as we want! Yeah! Right now! Better fly over dill, no one will interfere there
  17. demo
    demo 2 February 2018 10: 58
    +2
    I propose that the RF Ministry of Defense offer the American "partner" to obtain consent (or without it) to fly over Crimea.
    To prove, not only in word but in deeds, that Crimea is not Russian, but Ukrainian.
    Then we’ll see who has the eggs. And from what material.
    And then, sanctions! Crimea is not Russian! And show - whose!
  18. FID
    FID 2 February 2018 11: 46
    +1
    Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry reported that the Su-27 fighter intercepted over neutral US waters.


    Editors !!!! Su-27 to the neutral waters of the United States, as to me to the moon .... And what did he intercept?
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 2 February 2018 12: 48
      0
      Quote: SSI
      Editors !!!!

      "If you notice an error in the text, select the text with the error and press Ctrl + Enter" (c)
  19. q75agent
    q75agent 2 February 2018 11: 59
    0
    Quote: bvs
    In a neutral sky, EVERYONE has the right to fly according to international air rules - not to approach another aircraft at a distance closer than 300 meters. And that’s all!

    so let them fly in a neutral sky with their America or your Israel, and you don’t climb to it, we don’t climb to them both to us and you and America hi
  20. Shkodnick
    Shkodnick 2 February 2018 12: 12
    +1
    Quote: bvs
    I did not understand your post. Americans fly in a neutral sky, which borders and whose side nobody cares. They do not cross the air border of the Russian Federation. And what is the "legal approach of the Russian aircraft" in a neutral sky? It is free for everyone. According to international requirements, the minimum distance between aircraft is 300 meters. Like this.

    As I understand it, they flew without the transponders turned on, so we did not notice them and flew their course as we flew (a joke of course) but, being in the exclusive economic Zone of Russia, they had to fly with the transponders turned on.
    1. BVS
      BVS 3 February 2018 06: 25
      0
      “As I understand it, they flew without the transponders turned on” - but how do you understand this? Usually, in previous cases, at least, Americans flew near the borders of the Russian Federation with transponders turned on. On the other hand, Russian military aircraft did not turn on transponders when flying from the mainland to Kaliningrad, or maybe they simply weren’t physically.
    2. BVS
      BVS 3 February 2018 06: 27
      0
      At the expense of the "exclusive economic zone of Russia", it does NOT have any relation to the air environment and flights of aircraft, both civil and military.
  21. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 2 February 2018 13: 06
    0
    Given the capabilities of modern technology, flying around borders in accordance with the rules threatens Russia's national security. In this regard, reconnaissance aircraft should not appear closer than established boundaries. In my opinion, it will be more correct.
  22. Evil 55
    Evil 55 2 February 2018 16: 20
    0
    A couple of flights of our A-50/100 along the mattress coast and they themselves will run to negotiate ...
  23. earloop
    earloop 2 February 2018 18: 09
    0
    In order to "exclude such flights near the borders of the Russian Federation," you must first bring down one airplane, and then you can easily "agree on the rules for their implementation."
  24. sabakina
    sabakina 2 February 2018 19: 53
    +2
    The Russian proposal to agree on the rules of border flights at the Pentagon was answered that American pilots operate safely within the framework of existing international standards and expect the same from Russian pilots

    So, sooner or later, you have to bring them down with a jet stream. And then let them prove it!
  25. behemot
    behemot 3 February 2018 06: 17
    0
    it is impossible to make excuses to these goats. We are also in the international airspace, as we want and fly. Do not like it, fly away.
  26. 1536
    1536 3 February 2018 09: 13
    0
    Sooner or later, one of the American pilots flying on the Black Sea will be shot down, like Colonel Powers on the U-2 in the 1960 year.
  27. Andrey160479
    Andrey160479 3 February 2018 13: 00
    0
    These not good people will unleash the 3rd world war.
  28. Old military officer
    Old military officer 9 February 2018 18: 43
    0
    Provocations continue and will continue. We need a non-standard answer that would show these supermen that they can easily grab and even lose their precious life, and they do not sign contracts in order to lose life.