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Russian Foreign Ministry warns of "hunting" for Russian citizens around the world

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The Russian Foreign Ministry warned citizens that there was a great danger of actually being held hostage by representatives of the special services of foreign countries. We are talking about numerous facts when the Russians became victims of the arbitrariness of the special services of a number of countries, ultimately under the hood of the United States of America.


Russian Foreign Ministry warns of "hunting" for Russian citizens around the world


The Russian Foreign Ministry notes that the department is making every effort to relieve the degree of tension in relations with partners from the United States, but Washington is moving towards the continuation of confrontation. It is noted that for the Russians, representing at least some interest for the American special services, there is a real hunt almost all over the world. Special recommendations relate to those who may well have real problems with the American Themis.

From the message of the department:
The number of such cases has already reached four dozen. For 2017 alone, more than ten Russian citizens were arrested at requests from Washington abroad. Examples include detentions in Spain of S.V. Lisov and P.Yu. Levashov, in Latvia - Yu.A.Martyshev, in Canada - R.F.Mansurov, in Greece - A.V. Vinnik. Taking into account the above circumstances, we strongly recommend that Russian citizens carefully plan all the risks when planning trips abroad, especially if there is reason to assume that there are complaints from US law enforcement agencies.


The Russian Foreign Ministry advises to pay attention to treaties with the United States on extradition, which are published on the website of the US State Department in the public domain.
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  1. Pirogov
    Pirogov 1 February 2018 17: 51
    36
    And what will be the answer, again worried about Lavrov’s speech. Maybe it's time to start arresting Americans too?
    1. allaykbar
      allaykbar 1 February 2018 17: 53
      24
      Maybe it's time to start arresting Americans too?


      and then who will rule Ukraine?
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 1 February 2018 17: 55
        11
        Quote: Pirogov
        Maybe it's time to start arresting Americans too?

        I remember that in the late nineties one spy was arrested ... Arrested, sentenced to long term, pardoned and released!
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 1 February 2018 18: 04
          +9
          Quote: Anarchist
          Arrested, sentenced to long term, pardoned and released!

          and compensation for moral damage not paid? am
      2. Slovak
        Slovak 1 February 2018 19: 53
        +3
        Quote: allaykbar
        Maybe it's time to start arresting Americans too?


        and then who will rule Ukraine?

        Do not touch only Trump!
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 1 February 2018 21: 05
        +5
        Quote: allaykbar
        and then who will rule Ukraine?

        To begin with, at least the very very quick ones in the anti-Russian actions of the Ukrainians will begin to catch and judge? For example, those who are already on the wanted list by the prosecutor's office of the Russian Federation among the Ukrainian zoo.
        1. allaykbar
          allaykbar 1 February 2018 23: 21
          +1
          I think everything will be and everything will be as fast and on time as the Crimean operation. The Security Council can, when possible, take advantage of it.

          Go ahead and head on against 80% of the global economy is not an option. Howling
    2. cniza
      cniza 1 February 2018 17: 53
      +5
      The question is on what basis? everything rests on this.
      1. Logall
        Logall 1 February 2018 18: 07
        14
        It is not necessary to arrest citizens of other countries, But we use the tool. For example, some American financial networks. We have a lot of theirs in Russia! To lose what will be painful for them ...
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 1 February 2018 18: 09
          14
          Quote: Logall
          To lose what will be painful for them ...

          our nouveau riche there is even more, so they won’t give it, because they know that it will not rust in striped
          1. Esoteric
            Esoteric 1 February 2018 18: 21
            +4
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            our nouveau riche there are even more so they won’t give

            And don’t ... Let them know in which "stocking" to keep money ...
            1. Angel_and_Demon
              Angel_and_Demon 1 February 2018 18: 24
              +7
              since they are holding a striped stocking, and it depends on them whether they will apply any measures against the striped ones, the more they have already been warned by the Kremlin List
            2. Arberes
              Arberes 1 February 2018 18: 27
              +7
              Quote: Esoteric
              Quote: Angel_and_Demon
              our nouveau riche there are even more so they won’t give

              And don’t ... Let them know in which "stocking" to keep money ...


              I absolutely agree with you. Money (even if it is stolen with sweat and blood) should work for our economy! hi drinks
              1. 97110
                97110 1 February 2018 19: 36
                +2
                Quote: Arberes
                Money (even if it is stolen with sweat and blood) should work for our economy!

                So they are trying with the help of these, stolen at home, to infiltrate their economy and plunder it clean!
          2. captain
            captain 1 February 2018 23: 05
            +4
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            Quote: Logall
            To lose what will be painful for them ...

            our nouveau riche there is even more, so they won’t give it, because they know that it will not rust in striped

            You are very right. Especially in the current situation in our foreign policy. I remember (and I really remember, born in 1955) how we defended Damansky Island, people died, but we did not give it up. Take an interest in who and when gave away a piece of our Motherland by the bloodshed blood of our soldiers to the Chinese. I would be glad if you are not afraid to write.
            1. johnik
              johnik 2 February 2018 00: 01
              +1
              O. Tarabarov.
            2. Angel_and_Demon
              Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 09: 27
              +5
              It's simple. Islands gave Putin. Yes, in 2004, the islands were transferred to China along the Amur River with a total area of ​​more than 300 square kilometers. And indeed, the documents bear the signature of Putin. It is a fact.
              Russia is a generous soul hi
              1. captain
                captain 2 February 2018 09: 35
                +3
                Quote: Angel_and_Demon
                It's simple. Islands gave Putin. Yes, in 2004, the islands were transferred to China along the Amur River with a total area of ​​more than 300 square kilometers. And indeed, the documents bear the signature of Putin. It is a fact.
                Russia is a generous soul hi

                Actually, the Damansky Island, respected commentators, was communicated by the guys. The Soviet-Chinese border conflict on Damansky Island - armed clashes between the USSR and China 2 and 15 on March 1969 in the area of ​​Damansky Island (Chinese 珍宝, Zhenbao - “Precious”) on the Ussuri River, 230 km south of Khabarovsk and 35 km west of the district center Luchegorsk
                The largest Soviet-Chinese armed conflict in the modern history of Russia and China.

                In total, during the clashes, Soviet troops lost 58 people (including 4 officers), injured 94 people (including 9 officers) killed and died from wounds.
                The irretrievable losses of the Chinese side are still classified information and, according to various estimates, range from 100 to 300 people. There is a memorial cemetery in Baoqing County, where the ashes of 68 Chinese soldiers who died on 2 and 15 on March 1969 are located.
                For the heroism shown, five servicemen received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union
                On September 11 in Beijing, Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR A.N. Kosygin, who was returning from the funeral of Ho Chi Minh, and Prime Minister of the State Council of the People's Republic of China Zhou Enlai agreed to stop hostile actions and that the troops remain in their occupied positions. In fact, this meant transferring Daman to China. On October 20, on November 1969, new negotiations between the heads of the governments of the USSR and the PRC took place, and an agreement was reached on the need to revise the Soviet-Chinese border. Further, a number of negotiations were held in Beijing and Moscow, and in 1991, Damansky Island finally ceded to China (de facto it was transferred to China at the end of 1969).
                Afraid you guys communists write the truth. Not good however.
                1. Angel_and_Demon
                  Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 09: 48
                  +5
                  Quote: captain
                  Scared are you guys
                  the communists
                  write the truth. Not good however.

                  never been a communist, in my youth yes, I’ll go to shit, then to the Komsomol, but on the document the signature of GDP
                2. Hort
                  Hort 2 February 2018 11: 04
                  +1
                  where does Damansky?
                  The demarcation of the Russian-Chinese border took place in 2005. As a result of the interstate border in the center of the Amur River, China received a number of territories with a total area of ​​337 square kilometers: a plot of land in the vicinity of Bolshoi Island (the upper reaches of the Argun River in the Chita Region) and two sections in the region of the Tarabarov and Bolshoi Ussuriysky Islands at the confluence of the Amur and Ussuri Rivers . The main part of these territories was the western tip of the Bolshoi Ussuri Island on the Amur River opposite the mouth of the Ussuri River. The island has territory from 327 to 350 km² depending on the season.

                  On 14 on October 2004, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Hu Jintao signed an addendum to the agreement on the Russian-Chinese state border, according to which the transfer took place.

                  On May 20, 2005, the State Duma of the 4th convocation ratified an additional agreement (307 deputies supported, 80 against, two abstained). On May 25, the agreement was approved by the Federation Council (157 senators supported, against - two, without abstentions).
        2. cniza
          cniza 1 February 2018 18: 11
          +8
          A lot of things can be done and needed, but we (on the forum) can only groan and gasp.
          1. Logall
            Logall 1 February 2018 18: 14
            +9
            In short, I realized that we need to start with our "tax collectors"!
            To have hard teeth, you first need to get rid of milk! And they are not only dairy, but also rotten ...
            1. cniza
              cniza 1 February 2018 18: 24
              +3
              God grant that the right lessons are learned. good
        3. Metallurg_2
          Metallurg_2 2 February 2018 07: 03
          0
          First, we must put to the wall all who look at the West and betray national interests.
          Then you can confiscate.
      2. SHURUM -BURUM
        SHURUM -BURUM 1 February 2018 19: 14
        +3
        And what are these people who have problems with American Themis? Who are they?
        1. 97110
          97110 1 February 2018 19: 43
          +1
          Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
          And what are these people who have problems with American Themis? Who are they?

          There is a popular wisdom among the Russian people: "Do not renounce a prison!" Or: "If there was a man, there would be an article." Moreover, they have a “front” team daden! Your nickname is a threat to American security. The data is classified, not subject to disclosure. But you shine at least 3 years of American execution!
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 1 February 2018 21: 08
        +5
        Quote: cniza
        The question is on what basis? everything rests on this.

        You understand very well that mattresses do not need foundations ... since their special services work according to the law of our bandits from the 90s, and we all want the law and stupidly expect the same from the USA. Stupid? I would say even funny.
        We live by the law, and mattresses by the precedents of these laws. Catch the difference?
        1. cniza
          cniza 1 February 2018 21: 11
          +4
          We would have such legislation for our specials. services, but for now they are only beaten on the hands.
      4. not main
        not main 1 February 2018 22: 08
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        The question is on what basis? everything rests on this.

        If there was a man, there would be an article! That's how the Americans exist!
    3. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 1 February 2018 18: 00
      +7
      Quote: Pirogov
      And what will be the answer, again worried about Lavrov’s speech. Maybe it's time to start arresting Americans too?

      Most of the population of Russia is not threatened, and those who travel abroad mostly come with machine guns or in fighters and bombers ..
      So the majority of the Russian Foreign Ministry will perceive this statement as heh heh ..
      1. Burbon
        Burbon 1 February 2018 18: 35
        +6
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Most of the population of Russia is not threatened

        it’s only for you Vitalka doesn’t threaten .... since you don’t have any interest whatsoever ..... and half the population is threatened and specifically
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 1 February 2018 19: 58
          +3
          Quote: Burbon
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Most of the population of Russia is not threatened

          it’s only for you Vitalka doesn’t threaten .... since you don’t have any interest whatsoever ..... and half the population is threatened and specifically

          Well, Bourbon is definitely threatening you for illegal hunting for fish outside of Russia ..
          The main thing is that, stay close to Makarevich, he will turn it off .. hehe Diver you are "our dear" !!!!
          1. Burbon
            Burbon 1 February 2018 21: 16
            +1
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Main thing close to Makarevich

            You see, Vitalka ..... I don’t mess with your homies. repeat ..and by the way more a diver than a hunter ..... was a stretch ... reasoned?
            1. MIKHAN
              MIKHAN 1 February 2018 21: 35
              +4
              Quote: Burbon
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Main thing close to Makarevich

              You see, Vitalka ..... I don’t mess with your homies. repeat ..and by the way more a diver than a hunter ..... was a stretch ... reasoned?

              I am Volt Ger Bourbon ..! wink
              Not a hunter anymore? And I’m already going to write greenpeace .. You’re better off not going abroad for now, but you never know what (a fighting dolphin can get caught, etc.) If you share a lot of money with men .. wink
              1. Burbon
                Burbon 2 February 2018 08: 22
                0
                Quote: MIKHAN
                Not a hunter anymore?

                above was about Makarevich .... he is more a diver than a hunter))
                a fighting dolphin can get caught
                I'm not afraid of them)) ..... we are one with them - pinnipeds ...
                Quote: MIKHAN
                If you share a lot of money with men ..

                yes in the face of money then ....
      2. 97110
        97110 1 February 2018 19: 48
        +5
        Quote: MIKHAN
        So the majority of the Russian Foreign Ministry will perceive this statement as heh heh ..

        How many millions of half-tourists there a year in NATO countries rest? Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain, France? What, all-all with Kalashnikovs? Or some with families?
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 1 February 2018 20: 04
          +3
          Quote: 97110
          Quote: MIKHAN
          So the majority of the Russian Foreign Ministry will perceive this statement as heh heh ..

          How many millions of half-tourists there a year in NATO countries rest? Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain, France? What, all-all with Kalashnikovs? Or some with families?

          Muscovites out of habit .. They have hard work and beggarly salary! laughing
          And these lists are sanctioned ..))) We will redeem them throughout Russia and send 100 rubles for treatment from psychologists, etc. Do not anger me, I beg you .. negative
          1. 97110
            97110 1 February 2018 20: 08
            +3
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Do not anger me, I beg you ..

            I won’t do it again. Excuse me generously.
            1. MIKHAN
              MIKHAN 1 February 2018 20: 44
              +2
              Quote: 97110
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Do not anger me, I beg you ..

              I won’t do it again. Excuse me generously.

              C'mon, I forgive heh heh .. I'm not the same MIKHAN now, they punished me harshly .. crying
              So that you can kick, even in a crowd ... (I’ll only squeak and grit my teeth, clutching a checker on my side ..))))
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 1 February 2018 21: 15
                +6
                Quote: MIKHAN
                So that you can kick, even in a crowd ...

                Well, why so go down - you have to give change, do not waste time, you can directly ruble, well, or in extreme cases, shafting laughing
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 2 February 2018 05: 05
                  +3
                  It is impossible for him to fight off the shafts and get the saber out of the scabbard. But there was no talk about Mauser. good
    4. Svarog
      Svarog 1 February 2018 18: 04
      13
      Well, not a shame? Shame !!! The state does not care about its citizens at all, only shears taxes, as with sheep ... but it expresses concerns. And why do not they steal American citizens? They will start to respond symmetrically, then the Americans will calm down ..
      1. viktor.
        viktor. 1 February 2018 18: 15
        +2
        Yes, right tomorrow from the plane and the STEP TO SIBERIA. laughing laughing drinks
      2. You Vlad
        You Vlad 1 February 2018 18: 49
        +9
        Quote: Svarog
        And why do not they steal American citizens?
        How do you see this in reality, and not in your wet fantasies? Tell us, share your wise thoughts!
        Quote: Svarog
        Svarog

        Quote: Svarog
        Well, not a shame? Shame !!! The state does not care about its citizens at all, only shears taxes, as with sheep ... but it expresses concerns.

        You have a lot of pathos yes
      3. vlad66
        vlad66 1 February 2018 18: 53
        13
        Quote: Svarog
        Well, not a shame? Shame !!! The state does not care about its citizens at all, only shears taxes, as with sheep .. yes expresses concerns

        Slogans, slogans, slogans laughing
        Quote: Svarog
        . And why do not they steal American citizens? They will begin to respond symmetrically, and then the Americans will calm down.

        Begin the hunt. yes bully
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 1 February 2018 18: 59
          +7
          Quote: vlad66
          Slogans, slogans, slogans

          This individual scribbles a comment every two minutes, an enviable performance repeat
          1. vlad66
            vlad66 1 February 2018 19: 01
            10
            Quote: You Vlad
            enviable performance

            So elections Vladislav, elections. hi drinks
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 1 February 2018 19: 22
              +3
              Quote: vlad66
              So elections Vladislav, elections.

              I don't like it all hi There were such cases when drowning people clutched at the surface and drowned for others, their desire can be understood, but not if for you! So, they (D) drown Russia to dive into power.
          2. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 1 February 2018 21: 17
            +7
            Quote: You Vlad
            This individual scribbles a comment every two minutes, an enviable performance

            so he is not a reader - he is a writer good
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 1 February 2018 21: 20
              +3
              Quote: Angel_and_Demon
              so he is not a reader - he is a writer

              Yeah, in the fantasy genre good
      4. KaPToC
        KaPToC 1 February 2018 20: 09
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        The state does not care about its citizens at all

        And what did these “citizens” lose in the territory of a hostile state? / This is not casual.
      5. captain
        captain 1 February 2018 22: 59
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        Well, not a shame? Shame !!! The state does not care about its citizens at all, only shears taxes, as with sheep ... but it expresses concerns. And why do not they steal American citizens? They will start to respond symmetrically, then the Americans will calm down ..

        Of course you're right. We must send our airborne troops to the USA and put things in order there.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 1 February 2018 23: 27
          +3
          Quote: captain
          Quote: Svarog
          Well, not a shame? Shame !!! The state does not care about its citizens at all, only shears taxes, as with sheep ... but it expresses concerns. And why do not they steal American citizens? They will start to respond symmetrically, then the Americans will calm down ..

          Of course you're right. We must send our airborne troops to the USA and put things in order there.

          Yes, it's easier to steal a couple of Americans, businessmen and announce that we are changing for ours. And before that, to bungle the law, according to which, in the event of the illegal arrest of our citizens, we have the right to a symmetrical response. The Americans are trying to spread their right to the whole world, and we are ours. And business then.
          1. midivan
            midivan 2 February 2018 01: 03
            +3
            Quote: Svarog
            Yes, it's easier to steal a couple of Americans, businessmen and announce that we are changing for ours.
            To steal is not a tricky business, but to take it out, you need to have an agreement with that country where you are going to steal, but I know only one such place, but such fish are not found there for Eun, and the rest are isolated, it’s possible to “steal” at home, but at home investors live, and they are in the "red book" request
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 2 February 2018 01: 25
              +4
              Quote: midivan
              Quote: Svarog
              Yes, it's easier to steal a couple of Americans, businessmen and announce that we are changing for ours.
              To steal is not a tricky business, but to take it out, you need to have an agreement with that country where you are going to steal, but I know only one such place, but such fish are not found there for Eun, and the rest are isolated, it’s possible to “steal” at home, but at home investors live, and they are in the "red book" request

              Well, yes, investors, that is, we sell our citizens for pennies .. What kind of investors, they invested a lot in our economy, take away investments in natural resources and you will see that all these investors are not investors. It would be a desire, but it’s easy to take it out, from the same Ukraine, there are a lot of them there now. In general, this is a matter of political will, and the special services know their job .. A couple of episodes will be enough for America to stop these outrages. And in the security services they understand this very well. But the leadership of the country has a different vision, that’s the problem. They scoot that, exacerbating the situation, the Americans will start property and seize accounts ..
              1. midivan
                midivan 2 February 2018 01: 38
                +3
                Quote: Svarog
                Well, yes, investors, that is, we sell our citizens for pennies .. What kind of investors, they invested a lot in our economy, take away investments in natural resources and you will see that all these investors are not investors.

                I’d like to say something about the Red Book smile
                Quote: Svarog
                It would be a desire, but it’s easy to take it out, from the same Ukraine, there are a lot of them

                I don’t think that it’s straightforward and easy, “brothers” they certainly can and are stupid, but not all there are suckers, we can and there will be a maximum of one, I believe in specialists in ours but they are not Gods either.
                Quote: Svarog
                They scoot that, exacerbating the situation, the Americans will start property and seize accounts ..

                Not without it, I agree.
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 1 February 2018 18: 06
      +6
      Americans are hunting for Russians. Yes, they started their economy with the scalp trade of the Indians. What has changed - then? belay
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 1 February 2018 18: 11
        11
        Quote: siberalt
        What has changed - then?

        now humanism - they trade in their entirety
      2. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 1 February 2018 18: 19
        10
        Quote: siberalt
        they started their economy with the scalp trade of the Indians

        And to whom did they steam those scalps, it would be interesting to know recourse
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 1 February 2018 18: 25
          +5
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          And to whom did they steam those scalps

          other Indians
        2. 97110
          97110 1 February 2018 19: 53
          +2
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          And to whom did they steam those scalps, it would be interesting to know

          To the bosses. It paid money ... on behalf of its greatness.
    6. BVS
      BVS 1 February 2018 18: 38
      +2
      It seems to me that Americans who have problems with Russian femida simply do not go to Russia and are strange satellite. And that’s all.
    7. gaura
      gaura 2 February 2018 06: 29
      0
      And I'm more interested in why these Russians so rod abroad? Sit in Russia and nobody will touch you, but no, it won’t sit
    8. AID.S
      AID.S 2 February 2018 07: 24
      0
      Quote: Pirogov
      Maybe it's time to start arresting Americans too?

      And they tear off their legs.
    9. Dashout
      Dashout 2 February 2018 09: 00
      +2
      Quote: Pirogov
      again worried performances of Lavrov

      I got it all with my concerns! Well, what will you do: a good man, but a pure talker-theoretician ...
  2. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 1 February 2018 17: 51
    +9
    In 99% of cases, these are citizens who cheated somewhere and there is something to “hook” them with. This is logical and logical.
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 1 February 2018 18: 05
      +3
      Did you check, or did you personally report? Where do these numbers come from, do not share the source? ??
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 1 February 2018 18: 06
      +6
      Quote: Sergeant71
      In 99% of cases, these are citizens who cheated somewhere and there is something to “hook” them with. This is logical and logical.

      Even so ... These are citizens of Russia, not America, and therefore, the state is obliged to protect them from the arbitrariness of other countries.
      1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 1 February 2018 19: 42
        +4
        And if these citizens have more than their heads, they know that they’re croaked and still climb to where they can be arrested. The same Booth would have sat at home, if he didn’t want to warm himself in the southern sun. That's the rake in full.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 1 February 2018 19: 44
          +4
          Quote: Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
          And if these citizens have more than their heads, they know that they’re croaked and still climb to where they can be arrested. The same Booth would have sat at home, if he didn’t want to warm himself in the southern sun. That's the rake in full.

          Do you know a lot about Bout?)) If you knew, you wouldn’t write such nonsense about him ..
          1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
            Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 1 February 2018 20: 48
            +3
            But that Booth didn’t know that the hunt had been announced for him. “I knew. So what the hell did he suffer in Thailand?
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 1 February 2018 21: 21
          +4
          Quote: Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
          And if these citizens have more than their heads, they know that they’re croaked and still climb to where they can be arrested.

          So you accept US laws and are ready to live on them?)) Are you a citizen of which country?
          1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
            Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 1 February 2018 21: 35
            +5
            I am a citizen of Russia, and I suspect those who go abroad not for sovereign need, where I was born, it came in handy!
      2. You Vlad
        You Vlad 1 February 2018 19: 47
        +3
        Quote: Svarog
        the state is obliged to protect them from the arbitrariness of other countries.

        It honestly warned earlier yes But as you Do you see a solution to this problem? Without slogans and pathos!Specific actions?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 1 February 2018 19: 50
          +3
          Quote: you Vlad
          Quote: Svarog
          the state is obliged to protect them from the arbitrariness of other countries.

          It honestly warned earlier yes But as you Do you see a solution to this problem? Without slogans and pathos, specifically action!

          Well, yes, tomorrow we will all honestly be warned that the American allies also decided to take advantage of this practice and generally go abroad in no way .. What do you think, why did the state appear? What for?
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 1 February 2018 19: 55
            +2
            I don't get it belay It’s not you there at the top of the branch who sparkled with the ideas and teachings of our state how to protect your citizens abroad? what
            Quote: Svarog
            Well, yes, tomorrow we will all honestly be warned that the American allies also decided to take advantage of this practice and generally go abroad in no way .. What do you think, why did the state appear? What for?

            It's not about you No.I ask again, except for the slogans laughing there will be practical suggestions (thoughts) how do you see a solution to this problem?
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 1 February 2018 20: 00
              +4
              Quote: you Vlad
              I don't get it belay It’s not you there at the top of the branch who sparkled with the ideas and teachings of our state how to protect your citizens abroad? what
              Quote: Svarog
              Well, yes, tomorrow we will all honestly be warned that the American allies also decided to take advantage of this practice and generally go abroad in no way .. What do you think, why did the state appear? What for?

              It's not about you No.

              Are you really so stupid or pretending to be. I asked you, what is the main function of the state? If you do not know the answer to this question, then there is nothing to talk with you about. And if you know the answer, then you cannot deny the fact that the state does not fulfill its functions in this case ..
              1. You Vlad
                You Vlad 1 February 2018 20: 03
                +4
                Quote: Svarog
                Are you really so stupid or pretending to be.

                I guess I'm really stupid what if I try to get from you specific answer!
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 1 February 2018 20: 05
                  +3
                  Quote: you Vlad
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Are you really so stupid or pretending to be.

                  I guess I'm really stupid what if I try to get from you specific answer!

                  hahah, well at least have fun .. and thanks for that! I thought that I was seeking an answer from you ..
                  1. You Vlad
                    You Vlad 1 February 2018 20: 09
                    +2
                    Well, let's play your game! Yes, the main function of the state is to protect its citizens! Did you want to hear that?
                    1. Svarog
                      Svarog 1 February 2018 20: 13
                      +3
                      Quote: you Vlad
                      Well, let's play your game! Yes, the main function of the state is to protect its citizens! Did you want to hear that?

                      Well, I don’t play games, in my opinion, this is serious and even very .. And I’m so pleasantly surprised that you objectively evaluate yourself .. I’m ready to answer your questions if you still have them ..
                      1. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 1 February 2018 20: 19
                        +2
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Well, I don’t play games,

                        Why same laughing this is your game at the moment, avoiding the answer! Everything else is tinsel ...
                      2. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 1 February 2018 20: 31
                        +1
                        Quote: Svarog
                        I am ready to answer your questions if you still have them ..

                        I'll try anyway what Last time! Specifically, what steps do you think Russia should take to protect its citizens abroad?
                2. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 1 February 2018 20: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: You Vlad
                  I guess I'm really stupid

                  Admitting my own mistakes makes me only respect my opponent. yes
                  Learn, study and study, like a colleague bully
                  1. You Vlad
                    You Vlad 1 February 2018 20: 24
                    +3
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    Learn, study and study, like a colleague

                    And what did you learn to learn about the gigantic unjust income of the capitalist Grudinin? crying
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 1 February 2018 20: 29
                      +3
                      Quote: You Vlad
                      And what did you learn to learn about the gigantic unjust income of the capitalist Grudinin?

                      What is it that’s creating? Pasha Grudinin robbed the country!
                      Nedimon to meet you, and also kerimka and usmans, by the way, he is an Uzbek, he doesn’t root, but he is a leader in your Putin Forbes.
                      vote for the Putin team.
                      1. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 1 February 2018 20: 33
                        +4
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        What is it that’s creating? Pasha Grudinin robbed the country!

                        Okay, sit down, two hi
    3. Esoteric
      Esoteric 1 February 2018 18: 25
      +8
      Quote: Sergeant71
      In 99% of cases, these are citizens who cheated somewhere and there is something to “hook” them with.

      We here in Russia all (99%) “whacked” white and fluffy Americans only by occupying 1/7 of the land, we live here with bears and balalaikas and don’t kneel ...
      soldier
    4. HUMANOID
      HUMANOID 1 February 2018 18: 32
      +1
      In 99% of cases, these are citizens who cheated somewhere and there is something to “hook” them with. This is logical and logical.
      in fact, there are other tools for this, Interpol, intergovernmental agreements, etc. And so, pure piracy
      1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 1 February 2018 19: 45
        +2
        The fact of the matter is that they are detained precisely where the United States has all this treaty. It is usually issued by decision of a court or other competent authority in that country.
  3. BROVR
    BROVR 1 February 2018 17: 52
    +4
    She did not stop, this hunt. Everyone who needs to know this for various reasons and circumstances, let’s say, they know it, and if they go abroad, they are ready for everything ...
  4. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 1 February 2018 17: 59
    +5
    But is not Russia a guarantor of the protection and security of its citizens? But what about the fact that "the Russians do not abandon their own"?
    1. Loess
      Loess 1 February 2018 18: 13
      +3
      Is it about the fact that someone will be abandoned? They do what they can.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 1 February 2018 18: 16
        +5
        Quote: Less
        Is it about the fact that someone will be abandoned? They do what they can.

        So maybe we will pay taxes, who can how much?
        1. Loess
          Loess 1 February 2018 18: 28
          +3
          And taxes are probably now excessive? Just three skins tear?
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 1 February 2018 18: 35
            +4
            Quote: Less
            And taxes are probably now excessive? Just three skins tear?

            Yes, given that the RFP is not high. And add here gasoline, utilities, interest on loans .. And they become not feasible. Well, in general, if you follow your logic, if the taxes are not large, then the money earned can be distributed to everyone right and left. Are you just giving money to someone?
            1. Loess
              Loess 1 February 2018 18: 54
              +7
              Quote: Svarog
              Yes, given that the RFP is not high. And add gasoline, utilities, interest on loans here.

              And with not high salaries, with excessive prices for gasoline (is it not a royal business to travel by public transport?), With excessive prices for housing and communal services and extortionate mortgage rates, do you care that you will be hunted abroad?
              And gasoline and housing and communal services and banks - now everything is private, profits go to private owners, the state has only taxes and I demand from it as if all profits go to the treasury.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 1 February 2018 19: 39
                +3
                Quote: Less
                And gasoline and housing and communal services and banks - now everything is private, profits go to private owners, the state has only taxes and I demand from it as if all profits go to the treasury.

                What is your main function of the state? In general, why is it needed? Have you ever thought? Why did the state appear? The answer is simple, the state needs to protect its citizens, and citizens pay taxes for this, well, it is very simplified .. So, in this case, the state does not fulfill its functions. Our state is very unfairly structured, so also from outside we put restrictions. So you pay taxes all your life, and after retirement, after all, many do not survive. In fact, your pension accumulations should remain with your grandchildren or children, but no, if the person did not live up to retirement, his accumulation will be safely withdrawn in favor of the state .. And much more is on our head ..
                1. Loess
                  Loess 1 February 2018 20: 10
                  +2
                  [quote = Svarog] So you pay taxes all your life, and after retirement, after all, many do not survive. In fact, your pension accumulations should remain with your grandchildren or children, but no, if the person did not live up to his pension, his accumulation will be safely withdrawn in favor of the state .. [/ quote]
                  I don’t know about you, but when I chose a pension fund, the contract prescribed to whom my savings would go if I suddenly [/ quote] did not live up to my pension [/ quote]
                  Next
                  [quote = Svarog] Our state is very unfairly arranged [/ quote]
                  Once the people were already dusted with brains about the fact that we live poorly and no one uttered when that state was destroyed. And the people turned out ... you know where. 20 years of raking, even longer. Wait a moment, it starts again - we live poorly, an unjust state ... Has it become boring? Let’s ruin everything again and we’ll rake for another half a century.
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 1 February 2018 20: 23
                    +4
                    Quote: Less
                    I don’t know about you, but when I chose a pension fund, the contract prescribed to whom my savings would go if I suddenly [

                    Everyone has the same opinion on this issue, I came to Sberbank to open an account, they offered me to transfer my pension accumulations to Sberbank, I did just that, when I asked if I could use them before retiring, I got an answer, no, to the question if I I won’t live until retirement, where my savings will go, I received an answer to the state.

                    Quote: Less
                    Once the people were already dusted with brains about the fact that we live poorly and no one uttered when that state was destroyed. And the people turned out ... you know where. 20 years of raking, even longer. Wait a moment, it starts again - we live poorly, an unjust state ... Has it become boring? Let’s ruin everything again and we’ll rake for another half a century.

                    There is a truth in your words, but if you sit on the priest evenly and shout that “breakthrough” is great and cool with us, then it definitely won’t be better. You need to talk directly about the problems and only in this case there is a chance that they will hear you. True, under the current government they will definitely not hear. Putin is happy with everything and he has repeatedly stated this. So, revolutions are not needed - I agree. But within the framework of the law, criticism of the authorities is simply not necessary. And ideally, the power needs to be changed, well, people are stuck .. they don’t want to notice the already obvious substances ..
                2. B.T.V.
                  B.T.V. 1 February 2018 20: 50
                  +1
                  Quote: Svarog
                  In fact, your pension accumulations should remain with your grandchildren or children, but no, if the person did not live up to his pension, his accumulation will be safely withdrawn in favor of the state ..


                  The funded part of the pension is inherited. The basic and insurance part is not.
            2. KaPToC
              KaPToC 1 February 2018 20: 13
              0
              Quote: Svarog
              And add here gasoline, utilities, interest on loans .. And they become not feasible.

              those for whom this is all "overwhelming" - sit at home and do not travel to any America.
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 1 February 2018 19: 44
          +4
          Quote: Svarog
          So maybe we will pay taxes, who can how much?

          If you are employed by an enterprise with a “white” salary, give 13%, accounting itself will deduct, if a private entrepreneur, excuse me, I will not lie.
          Quote: Svarog
          And add gasoline here

          No car, no gas laughing
          Quote: Svarog
          Housing and communal services

          6500 treshka in Rybinsk and now winter heating you know.
          Quote: Svarog
          interest on loans

          You probably took a loan yourself and signed the contract yourself, and not at gunpoint, so what are the claims? request
    2. 97110
      97110 1 February 2018 20: 00
      +3
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      But what about the fact that "the Russians do not abandon their own"?

      And there is a song about it. Patriotic. These are the words there:
      "The Soviet government sent a document
      And he aimed rockets at the dunce.
      And a huge monument was built to the boat,
      Which all Odessa is proud of.

      Nothing more has been preserved in popular memory on this subject. Eroshenko and Booth are sitting as cute ...
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 1 February 2018 18: 03
    +5
    While the concept that the whole world is "partners" to us will prevail, we will not wait for a positive reaction from the authorities! A positive reaction, this one when we put on the howl of the United States and Europe, and for every arrested Russian we will arrest and put at least THREE Americans or Europoids - depending on who goes too far in relation to our citizens!
    1. dauria
      dauria 1 February 2018 18: 21
      +8
      and for every arrested Russian we will arrest and put at least THREE Americans


      It is enough for them to arrest one account, and we will release THREE Americans and spit on fifty Russians.
      But in general - since the war, nefig for the front line without orders to meddle. wink
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 1 February 2018 18: 31
        +4
        Quote: dauria
        But in general - since the war, nefig for the front line without orders to meddle.

        This principle would work if the Americans were afraid to cross the front line, and it turns out that we already lost the war ..
        1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
          Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 1 February 2018 19: 49
          +3
          So Americans do not climb. And as we did, immediately tear.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 1 February 2018 19: 06
      +2
      For now, we assume that "our" power is our partner ??? so it will probably be more honest.
      There are big doubts that the insolent, "fattened" for our labor near-top figures will "suffer" for and not their people at all ??? And they though stay on top again and again.
      Some kind of disgusting thing, we are changing some of the backbones to the same ones! Relatively speaking, with our own hands we can sign a “death” sentence to the country!
  6. samarin1969
    samarin1969 1 February 2018 18: 34
    +3
    And there’s nothing to roam abroad ... wink
    1. thinker
      thinker 1 February 2018 20: 05
      +2
      I looked here, and I was already confused by such numbers. yes
      Outgoing tourist flow from the Russian Federation grew in 2017 by almost twenty percent compared to 2016 and amounted to 38 million trips. The most popular destinations were Thailand, the United Arab Emirates, Vietnam, India, Israel and the Dominican Republic.
      http://hitplaneta.ru/?p=25367
      1. Doubting
        Doubting 1 February 2018 22: 25
        +2
        This Putin’s patriots wander around))


        The number of domestic tourists is approximately 2,5 times greater than the number of outbound tourists, notes Gorin: only 10% of Russians have a passport ...
  7. BVS
    BVS 1 February 2018 18: 35
    +2
    The author is realistic - "Special recommendations relate to those who may well have real problems with American femida." And then nothing needs to be discussed.
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 1 February 2018 18: 47
    +2
    A strange statement a little, in Soviet times it was the state that was tracking people who could interest the special services of "friendly" states, carriers of technological secrets, state secrets, and now the proposal sounds like: Saving the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves.
    1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 1 February 2018 19: 52
      +3
      Well, try not to let this go out, howl immediately "infringe on human rights!" Our "businessmen", senators, their children, "computer geniuses", etc. climb there.
  9. Proton
    Proton 1 February 2018 18: 48
    0
    And we need to grab a dozen and a half Americans to bring to us, and if they ask about the evidence (drug, terror, fraud), we are certainly there, only we won’t show them, they are secret laughing
  10. Professor
    Professor 1 February 2018 19: 06
    +1
    The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs warned citizens that there was a great danger of actually being taken hostage by representatives of the special services of foreign states.

    And there is. The enemy does not sleep. Russians abroad only need to walk in three and under the supervision of a curator. In general, do not figs to roam abroad. Sit at home. Everything is like a scoop. wassat
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 1 February 2018 19: 11
      +9
      Quote: Professor
      In general, do not figs to roam abroad. Sit at home

      First of all, you need to think with your head. Your curators in America, too, by the way warn their people. Where it is not recommended to go and you have Oleg as well, so hi-girls and ha-girls are not appropriate. hi
    2. Olezhek
      Olezhek 1 February 2018 19: 58
      +1
      And there is. The enemy does not sleep. Russians abroad only need to walk in threes and under the supervision of a curator. But in general, not figs on foreign countries to roam. Sit at home. Just like a scoop


      “Arab terrorists have never really existed.
      This is pure fake and creature of the Israeli special services.
      created to unite society in a crisis ...
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 1 February 2018 19: 59
      +4
      Quote: Professor
      And there is. The enemy does not sleep. Russians abroad only need to walk in three and under the supervision of a curator. In general, do not figs to roam abroad. Sit at home. Everything is like a scoop.

      Said a man from a country where they even go to the beach with a gun tongue
      1. Professor
        Professor 1 February 2018 20: 02
        +1
        Quote: APASUS
        Said a man from a country where they even go to the beach with a gun

        Was on New Year's Eve in Moscow. There, at the entrance to the subway, the peasant will check the "suspicious" bags. Why?
        Yesterday returned from Madrid. No one checks bags at the entrance to the subway. fellow
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 1 February 2018 20: 04
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: APASUS
          Said a man from a country where they even go to the beach with a gun

          Was on New Year's Eve in Moscow. There, at the entrance to the subway, the peasant will check the "suspicious" bags. Why?
          Yesterday returned from Madrid. No one checks bags at the entrance to the subway. fellow

          I was in Helsinki recently and the bags were not checked, should I shoot myself?
          1. Professor
            Professor 1 February 2018 20: 12
            +2
            Quote: APASUS
            I was in Helsinki recently and the bags were not checked, should I shoot myself?

            No need to shoot. Just before you look at the vending machines on our beach, see what is going on there. hi
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 1 February 2018 20: 21
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              Just before you look at the vending machines on our beach, see what is going on there.

              We are fighting ISIS and others, what is so surprising in the search at the entrance to the subway? The degree of danger of a terrorist attack in each country is different.
              In Salzburg, walking patrols with machine guns right at the train station and this is considered the norm, now the norm, about 5 years ago it would be in all the news
              1. Professor
                Professor 1 February 2018 22: 10
                +1
                Quote: APASUS
                We are fighting ISIS and others, what is so surprising in the search at the entrance to the subway? The degree of danger of a terrorist attack in each country is different.

                We fight ISIS and others, what is so surprising on the beach with a gun? The degree of danger of a terrorist attack in each country is different. wink
        2. KaPToC
          KaPToC 1 February 2018 20: 17
          0
          Quote: Professor
          Was on New Year's Eve in Moscow. There, at the entrance to the subway, the peasant will check the "suspicious" bags. Why?

          Quote: Professor
          Yesterday returned from Madrid. No one checks bags at the entrance to the subway.

          It’s just that you were not considered suspicious in Madrid, but they were considered in Russia
  11. Shahno
    Shahno 1 February 2018 19: 51
    +3
    Yes. Brought you to paranoia. Not bad.
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 1 February 2018 20: 06
      +6
      Quote: Shahno
      Yes. Brought you to paranoia. Not bad.

      Ai I yay, I feel sorry for you, however, the poor fellow in your kingdom do not warn you, it is not recommended that you Shahno go to one country or another, they can steal, they can beat, and you need such paranoid people. That would not be bad then. laughing
    2. Olezhek
      Olezhek 1 February 2018 20: 08
      0
      Yes. Brought you to paranoia. Not bad


      In the sense of? The facts of the abduction of Russian citizens by Americans have taken place repeatedly.
      What does the paranoia?
      1. vlad66
        vlad66 1 February 2018 20: 25
        +7
        Quote: Olezhek

        What does the paranoia?

        Yes, just to blur something, and show your dullness. request
  12. Olezhek
    Olezhek 1 February 2018 19: 59
    +1
    Something late began to warn ...
    Has taken place for a long time. request
  13. Svarog
    Svarog 1 February 2018 20: 28
    +2
    You Vlad,
    Remind me the question I left?))
  14. Doubting
    Doubting 1 February 2018 20: 33
    +1
    In my opinion, the Russian authorities are hunting Russians request

    Over 1000 people were detained at the Треб We demand answers ’rallies held on June 12 throughout Russia. The most massive were uncoordinated actions in Moscow and St. Petersburg, where the organizers refused to agree to the sites proposed by the authorities
  15. Svarog
    Svarog 1 February 2018 20: 33
    +4
    You Vlad,
    In addition, you are not very attentive, I still at the very beginning expressed the opinion what steps the state should take in this case. But for you I will repeat again the symmetrical ones.
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 1 February 2018 21: 01
      +3
      Quote: Svarog
      But for you I will repeat again the symmetrical ones.

      There is such a term, international jurisdiction yes , so the USA has satellites in relation to its countries, but we don’t have requestThat is, the United States acts in a legal framework! And you mean you are offering illegal abductions of citizens of other states! Well, wise guy laughing by this you will achieve that in the world Russia will be recognized as a terrorist state, with all the consequences! Of which you will later reproach the state with tear yes
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 1 February 2018 21: 10
        +3
        Quote: you Vlad
        Quote: Svarog
        But for you I will repeat again the symmetrical ones.

        There is such a term, international jurisdiction yes , so the USA has satellites in relation to its countries, but we don’t have requestThat is, the United States acts in a legal framework! And you mean you are offering illegal abductions of citizens of other states! Well, wise guy laughing by this you will achieve that in the world Russia will be recognized as a terrorist state, with all the consequences! Of which you will later reproach the state with tear yes

        The United States spat on the whole world and laws that were repeatedly shown and are showing, they are guided by their own laws, which broadcast to the whole world. So what prevents us from adopting a law according to which the abduction of a Russian citizen entails the right to retaliation anywhere in the world?
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 1 February 2018 21: 17
          +1
          Quote: Svarog
          The United States spat on the whole world and laws that were repeatedly shown and are showing, they are guided by their own laws, which broadcast to the whole world.

          Yes, they have the right yes
          Quote: Svarog
          So what prevents us from adopting a law according to which the abduction of a Russian citizen entails the right to retaliation anywhere in the world?

          You probably don’t understand what you’re reading? At the top, I wrote everything that is bothering us. We will become a terrorist state and the iron curtain will seem like flowers to us! For reference, no one wants to deal with such a state.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 1 February 2018 21: 29
            +4
            Quote: You Vlad
            You probably don’t understand what you’re reading? At the top, I wrote everything that is bothering us. We will become a terrorist state and the iron curtain will seem like flowers to us! For reference, no one wants to deal with such a state.

            I don’t even know that it’s your naivety or .. You’re afraid of the Americans .. What a terrorist state, what a curtain. 1 \ 7 part of land, we are completely self-sufficient. .if America could organize all this, it would have done long ago .. You know, the worst thing is not when a person, but when he is proactive. Forgive me, but it’s difficult with you, you are still young, you still need something, but good luck))
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 1 February 2018 21: 45
              +2
              Quote: Svarog
              Here you are afraid of the Americans .. What a terrorist state, what a curtain. 1 \ 7 part of land, we are completely self-sufficient.

              I'm not afraid No. I think that everyone should do what he understands and understands, understand and understand at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs yes And so you went for a walk! With a microscope, you hammer in nails.
              Quote: Svarog
              Forgive me, but it’s difficult with you, you are still young, you still need something, but good luck))

              See you and you don’t get sick hi Complicated i'm for you people laughing
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 1 February 2018 21: 53
                +4
                Quote: You Vlad
                I’m not afraid. I think that everyone should do what he understands and understands, they understand and understand at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and you’ve come out for a walk! They nail up nails with a microscope.

                Damn, you’re a provocateur .. I can’t directly answer .. The Foreign Ministry understands that they say, they understand .. Do you think that Kozyrev understood? And Shevornadze? And who of your best understood them?
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 1 February 2018 22: 00
                  +1
                  Quote: Svarog
                  What do you think, Kozyrev understood? And Shevornadze? And who of your best understood them?

                  Lavrov, ha, ha laughing
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 1 February 2018 22: 19
                    +4
                    Quote: You Vlad
                    I am a jurisdiction, and so the United States has satellites in relation to its countries, but we do not

                    Apparently you understand what I mean .. Well, now on .. And Lavrov to whom is subordinate? And whose line is following? That's right for the president .. And the president is very dependent on our circle of billionaires and of course it’s not profitable for them to aggravate with the United States. For this reason alone, they still have not adopted the law that I mentioned above. You see, they will accept him if the United States begins to seize the property and real estate of our elite. That's why everything is simple and obvious, they’ll just piss off .. But when they are pressed, the law will be adopted.
                    1. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 1 February 2018 23: 03
                      +3
                      Quote: Svarog
                      And our president is very dependent on his circle of billionaires

                      And he was also dependent on seven oligarchs when he was elected as president? laughing
                      Quote: Svarog
                      For this reason alone, they still have not adopted the law that I mentioned above.

                      It can be accepted, only other countries have equally divided our law yes He is not the decree of the State Department No. Until we have the same influence in the world as the USA, our legislation will not be interesting to anyone!
                      Quote: Svarog
                      the mobility of our elite. Therefore, everything is simple and obvious, just sts ..

                      No, they already swallow dust about what they were warned by the GDP, it’s a war and they choose which side to take! Whoever chooses the USA will swallow dust (they have assets in Russia, so swallow anyway), who side of Russia, that tax relief!
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 1 February 2018 23: 38
                        +4
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        And he was also dependent on seven oligarchs when he was elected as president?

                        That's right, he removed some, set his own. All his friends were no one, but became oligarchs.
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        It can only be accepted, only other countries will be equally divided on our law. It is not for them the decree of the State Department. Until we have the same influence in the world as the USA, our legislation will not be interesting to anyone.

                        This law is needed not for other countries, but for information war. We will show this law, firstly, the answer will be, secondly, that the Americans use it and we can do the same. This is to say that after the adoption of this law we will not be declared a terrorist state.
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        No, they already swallow dust about what they were warned by the GDP, it’s a war and they choose which side to take! Whoever chooses the USA will swallow dust (they have assets in Russia, so swallow anyway), who side of Russia, that tax relief!

                        Well, he already exempted all his friends from taxes .. who are under sanctions .. And so, this is all the appearance, they’ve been trying to return the money for 10 years already, but they can’t do anything. Or they don’t want to .. they don’t want to know more precisely ..
                    2. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 2 February 2018 07: 12
                      +2
                      Quote: Svarog
                      That's right, he removed some, set his own. All his friends were no one, but became oligarchs.

                      I don’t understand either ... or you’re completely young, or you’ll deviate from the training manual? You put yourself in his place! Who can he trust? Only those people whom he knows as flaky, so they together and squeeze the unjustly stolen into the state channel, for example, fsbshnik can manage a state-important enterprise wink
                      Quote: Svarog
                      This is to say that after the adoption of this law we will not be declared a terrorist state.

                      Be declared a spock, besides our legislation there is still international law yes Americans were able to force other countries to meet with the US special services (all business treaties) As soon as we begin to act with your brutal methods, howl rises that we act with terrorist methods! They will condemn, show concern and put a stamp on the whole world, the state is a terrorist! And all those who somehow resist the sanctions against Russia, they’ll definitely turn away. There’s a redivision of the world and such things cannot be resolved in a hurry with a saber wink Gradually, steadily, affectionately, in all areas yes
                  2. Svarog
                    Svarog 2 February 2018 01: 33
                    +3
                    Quote: you Vlad
                    Quote: Svarog
                    What do you think, Kozyrev understood? And Shevornadze? And who of your best understood them?

                    Lavrov, ha, ha laughing

                    The answer is not correct, the correct answer is Andrey Gromyko.
  16. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 1 February 2018 20: 43
    +2
    You Vlad,You Vlad,
    In how wassat You chew on the old "galoshes", I hope that you have already eaten what was sent to you last week ?! Moderate your appetite, Putin will send you new, beautiful, nano-galoshes from your friend Chubais.
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 1 February 2018 21: 03
      +2
      Quote: Stroporez
      your friend chubais.

      Well, Chubaisik is rather your friendship! But the trouble is, you don’t even know about it hi
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 1 February 2018 21: 28
        +3
        Quote: You Vlad
        Well, Chubaisik is rather your friendship! But the trouble is, you don’t even know about it

        no, no, it's Putin's, and accordingly yours yes
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 1 February 2018 21: 31
          +5
          Sling cutterYou have only 45 days to party
          Quote: Stroporez
          ... accordingly ...

          ... try not to burn out at work and ... not to sleep.
          Both that and that is harmful to your health yes
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 1 February 2018 21: 49
            +3
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            you have only 45 days to party

            You again? According to Orthodoxy, you damn thing should be less bully
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Both that and that is harmful to your health

            Living is generally harmful. I see Golovan doing absolutely no horseradish? Read articles yes and then you rummage about the wrong topic, the intellectual "grandmother". laughing
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 1 February 2018 22: 38
              +6
              Quote: Stroporez
              I see Golovan doing absolutely no horseradish?

              The next half hour - exactly so yes
              Quote: Stroporez
              read articles

              Chewing gum mainly negative
              Quote: Stroporez
              rummaging around with those and not the topic

              Well, why ... I’m raising your spirits, I take care of your precious health.
              After all, burn at work, fingers erased and go completely request
        2. You Vlad
          You Vlad 1 February 2018 21: 32
          +2
          Quote: Stroporez
          no, no, it's Putin's, and accordingly yours

          You confuse, he destroyed the State Department with you, and now he wants to complete the process with the sternum! Your Communist Party goes under the State Department, yeah wink
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 1 February 2018 21: 38
            +1
            Quote: You Vlad
            You confuse, he destroyed the State Department with you, and now he wants to complete the process with the sternum! Your Communist Party goes under the State Department, yeah
            hto, Putin-chubaychonok? Have you ever read the world press yes
            In general, sleep "native" do "ku" and be glad that vodka is made from gas)))))))))))
  17. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 1 February 2018 21: 04
    +1
    Quote: Pirogov
    And what will be the answer, again worried about Lavrov’s speech. Maybe it's time to start arresting Americans too?

    Medvedev has filed a request with the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB and the Central Bank, looking for secret contributions to "... start arresting Americans too ..."
    I am amusing your imagination, for having read your comment, he smiled ... He got sick and smiled again ...
    Not tired of the same thing?
    Anyone in our country knows / understands / agrees- TIME !!!!!!!!! How to do this in our situevina? Your suggestions? They scolded Mikhan for slogans, and here endless, stupid, worthless, expressing nothing comments like yours- "Maybe it's time ..."
    By the way, you need to tell the admin moderators to separately make a heading:
    "Maybe it’s time already ...!? '".
    I give the idea to anyone for free.
  18. Suhow
    Suhow 1 February 2018 21: 10
    0
    with the continued and growing pressure of "PARTNERS" on the Russian Federation, I would be surprised at the absence of such a step ....
  19. Prutkov
    Prutkov 1 February 2018 21: 31
    0
    Everything will remain at the level of concern. Now, if you create a list of countries where there were cases of abduction of Russians and transfer to the United States. When traveling to these countries, citizens must be insured for a very round amount. To have enough for a lawyer, help in prison.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 1 February 2018 21: 36
      +5
      Quote: Rods
      When traveling to these countries, citizens must be insured for a very round amount

      At whose expense, sorry?
      And why the hell do the "citizens" generally climb into a bottle "These countries"?
  20. Belarus is Russia
    Belarus is Russia 1 February 2018 21: 41
    0
    The Russian Foreign Ministry warned citizens that there was a great danger of actually being held hostage by representatives of the special services of foreign countries. We are talking about numerous facts when the Russians became victims of the arbitrariness of the special services of a number of countries, ultimately under the hood of the United States of America.

    It's time to step up and give the snout for our people: for the Russian Orthodox Christians, for the people of Russia the Russian Orthodox Christian. And create a special department / squad to release our children safe and sound.
  21. Prutkov
    Prutkov 1 February 2018 21: 42
    0
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: Rods
    When traveling to these countries, citizens must be insured for a very round amount

    At whose expense, sorry?
    And why the hell do the "citizens" generally climb into a bottle "These countries"?

    But they "climb" into these countries, Greece, Thailand, the Maldives ...
  22. tochila
    tochila 1 February 2018 21: 49
    +2
    People !!!! Love the Motherland and relax at home !!!! Why do you, lieutenant, a foreign land ???
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 1 February 2018 22: 38
      +2
      You will not teach to love your homeland later, whether it is or not!
      In fact, while the striped are the financial center of the planet, they will be the center of everything else!
      It’s ridiculous to talk about that Schaub, it’s ridiculous to talk with our compradors, both scientifically and simply goats. thief. ban. bourgeois. And so on.
      It’s time to take it for granted that the glorious time, when the authorities cared for everyone and thought at the same time, ended. A period has come when a citizen should take care of himself and THINKING IT MYSELF, preferably with his own head.
      And those who threw rotten eggs at the tiger because of a strong fence should think about whether or not to leave behind the fence ???
      However angry, sales by others, the tiger can pull anyone who comes across it behind the fence !!!
      You need to think with YOUR head and hold onto places where there is a fence no less or no tiger !!!
      However, lovers to pull the tail is everywhere !!! And if this tail is a TIGER ???
    2. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 2 February 2018 01: 44
      +2
      Quote: tochila
      People !!!! Love the Motherland and relax at home !!!! Why do you, lieutenant, a foreign land ???

      Wah! Well done!
      Now our hoteliers are on the Black Sea coast, Russian Railways, Air carriers, the prices for patriots are joyful of such news and I don’t want to hurt you the most!))) Ali forgot how our patriotic tour operators and co-bed owners heated up, raising prices when our Dryers are Turkish shot down?
      In our country, if sorrow is for someone, then for others it is simply manna from heaven. Remind me how taxis made money on someone else's misfortune when the terrorist attacks in Moscow took place?
      We Russian "love" each other, right?))) And most importantly - do not cash in on our own!)))
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 February 2018 13: 17
        0
        That’s why I suggest that people need to become a SOCIETY, if they need to think for themselves and for power ... there is no such law, punish the goons of taxi drivers - they TOGETHER and put it upside down, together with the car !!!! You look, goons will be less, scary and expensive, this and society looks askance !!!!
        And so it is necessary in everything !!! WORLDWIDE we solve our problems .... the most important problem is that the power is NOT OUR right now !!! Can it be time for the whole world to solve this problem ???
        1. Sotskiy
          Sotskiy 2 February 2018 13: 27
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          That’s why I suggest that people need to become SOCIETY

          When the society (and it was a society, if you remember) took away the very concept by which this society lived, namely: "Man to man is a brother, comrade and friend" and imposed from the "top" another concept of "Man to man is a wolf", then so somehow you ask yourself a question, maybe you need to change the top so that your "concepts" are not imposed?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 2 February 2018 13: 58
            0
            It is natural for a person to unite in packs, community, SOCIETY, especially in the face of a common calamity, the enemy !!! This sales is not for the idea, just the instinct of self-preservation !!!
            Flocks, flock, flock at the authorities and necessary. They will put their leader / shepherd at the head and "cut the hair" or they will set the enemy !!!
            Maybe the highest state in the development of a person who thinks is a union in COMMUNITY, where it is for the person and person for him.
            We collapsed down and stopped at the level of flocks \ stud ... very bad, we must move UP, to a normal CONSOLIDATED SOCIETY!
            We are a reasonable person !!! It's time to turn on the brain and build a society against the odds!
            1. Sotskiy
              Sotskiy 2 February 2018 14: 02
              0
              Quote: rocket757
              We collapsed down and stopped at the level of flocks \ stud ... very bad, we must move UP, to a normal CONSOLIDATED SOCIETY!

              And what is it? And with what is it eat? Back to Thomas More?)
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 2 February 2018 15: 39
                0
                We will not dive so deeply ... just when you need to turn a taxi driver’s goon upside down you don’t have to scramble alone with a couple of volunteers, but ALL who are at the bus stop help you, in word or deed, which is certainly better.
  23. Belarus is Russia
    Belarus is Russia 1 February 2018 21: 56
    +1
    Quote: tochila
    People !!!! Love the Motherland and relax at home !!!! Why do you, lieutenant, a foreign land ???

    Alternatively, to see how people live and if they live it is better to come to Russia Russian Orthodox Christian, and to make life in Russia better than everywhere. Prohibit traveling around the world, watch how people live, travel, compare and do so in Russia was better, better than in those Maldives, better than in that Greece, than in that Thailand, but better than everywhere! -There I don’t agree with you, don’t need people to forbid traveling and traveling and comparing. Russia Russian Orthodox Christian do better in The goal of these trips is what I think. But the enemies and traitors of Russia, the Russian Orthodox Christian, Russian Orthodox Christians, the people of Russia Russian Orthodox Christian, must be removed.
    So that those Maldives, that Greece, that Thailand, the USA, Sweden, who else are there, THE RUSSIAN Orthodox Christian were not suited to the mark, so they would like to go to Russia! In the end, so that Russia would not want to go anywhere and travel, so that Russian Orthodox Christian Russia would be the best!
  24. Belarus is Russia
    Belarus is Russia 1 February 2018 22: 09
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: APASUS
    Said a man from a country where they even go to the beach with a gun

    Was on New Year's Eve in Moscow. There, at the entrance to the subway, the peasant will check the "suspicious" bags. Why?
    Yesterday returned from Madrid. No one checks bags at the entrance to the subway. fellow

    And they’re doing the right thing, what they’re checking. And I’m glad about it. There will be no terrorist attacks. Well done guys, they take care of our defense, the security of Russia, Russian Orthodox Christian, Russian Orthodox Christians, the people of Russia Russian Orthodox Christian.
    But with a machine gun on the beach, civilian is already overkill. I understand, power structures, military, police, security officers and other special law enforcement agencies, yes. But not civilians.
  25. Mamka pula
    Mamka pula 1 February 2018 22: 30
    15
    But this is already interesting)
    Sit means in a mink, otherwise they will abduct))
  26. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 1 February 2018 23: 53
    +1
    Svarog,
    The adherents of the sect of the "gallery slave" now advance wassat
  27. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 2 February 2018 00: 55
    +1
    If the owner gave the command "Fas", then the hounds must bite!
  28. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 2 February 2018 01: 24
    0
    Russian Foreign Ministry warns of "hunting" for Russian citizens around the world

    I recall the good old days during the USSR, when groups of at least three people went to a city abroad.
    Is it just that our moneybags also be wary of provocations that have real estate and bank accounts there or have they already "hunted" them and are they not ours anymore?)
  29. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 2 February 2018 03: 37
    -1
    Quote: 97110
    What, all-all with Kalashnikovs? Or some with families?

    other wives with households stronger than Kalashnikov mow men ...
  30. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 2 February 2018 05: 30
    +2
    Do you know why Russia does not do the same? Because of laziness and unwillingness to work, “move”. After all, the detention of a foreign citizen is only a small part of the matter, everything else begins only later — he needs to be kept somewhere, questioned, and most importantly, various state structures will have to explain themselves to the “world community”, get rid of the insane “human rights defenders, generally withstand” global pressure, "and this will have to be done all the time. In the USA there is a whole service that has already worked out all the actions of trapping the US" enemies "around the world - they coordinate the actions of other government agencies and the media on this But in Russia there is nothing of the kind. - they will arrest a foreigner, and then they don’t know what to do with it, and the Russian Foreign Ministry and other government agencies are annoyed that they have to push themselves away from the furious “human rights defenders” and the “international community” —you see forced to work, once again ...
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 2 February 2018 07: 15
      0
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      "world community"

      Yes, tell me what other than this
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      pushing away from the crippled "human rights defenders, in general, withstanding" world pressure ", and this will have to be done constantly.

      Will it cost Russia?
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 2 February 2018 08: 08
        +2
        .... what .... will it cost Russia?

        I, unlike the "stars" here on the forum, have real experience in communicating with Russian representatives of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs here in the United States and Great Britain, regarding the protection of Russian citizens from illegal actions by the police and other law enforcement agencies of these countries. And this experience — purely negative — for the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the problems of Russian citizens abroad are their problems, yes, they say so, “these are your problems” and, moreover, they also express dissatisfaction with what you see "distract" them from how they say the "main" work. For them, Russian citizens are just rubbish, getting underfoot and interfering with the "main" work ....
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 2 February 2018 08: 27
          +1
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          regarding the protection of Russian citizens from illegal actions by the police and other law enforcement agencies of these countries. And this experience is purely negative for the Russian Foreign Ministry, the problems of Russian citizens abroad are their problems

          I don’t know, I didn’t come across, this is a blatant disgrace, I would write wherever possible for the inaction of the Foreign Ministry workers! I was talking about something else.
          So, how will it affect all citizens of Russia if Russia is included in the list of rogue countries? I think a wave of anti-Russian sentiments will rise (with the active support of the State Department) around the world, they will close the market for us, the old partners will turn away (as it will be for them, Too expensive) Well, Western economic sanctions will be severe! And we will be an evil empire laughing And so, in principle, everything goes to this, but why rush ahead of the steam engine? You can gradually gain strength and influence in the world .. And then many will think twice before such a step .. We are not ready for such desperate steps.
          1. Monster_Fat
            Monster_Fat 2 February 2018 08: 36
            0
            Say “ugliness” .... well, well .... it’s strange that someone thinks that bureaucrats in the Foreign Ministry are somewhat different from other bureaucrats in the state .... In the historical aspect, Russia is “always unprepared” became a famous meme. There is nothing to be afraid of - Russia may well provide for itself even with complete isolation- "the devil is not so terrible as he is painted ..." Personally, I am a supporter of the formula: “a terrible end is better than horror without end” .. considering that choosing "end" - you finally decide on real actions and the "end" is not yet predetermined ...
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 2 February 2018 08: 47
              0
              The Soviet Union was much larger and more powerful than Russia at the moment, both economically and territorially, but it also critically needed certain technologies and markets! I lived with the union and I remember what was in our stores and what could not be found in the afternoon! The Iron Curtain 2.0! Why step on the same rake twice? This is too straightforward ...
              1. Monster_Fat
                Monster_Fat 2 February 2018 08: 59
                0
                Yes, there will be no “iron curtain” —Russia is surrounded not only by hostile countries, secondly, I had to write one work on the “NEP” in the Soviet institute and shovel a lot of material on this issue and I was simply amazed how the communists managed then " it is beautiful to "get out of" war communism "in the conditions of the blockade of Western countries, move to commodity-money relations, get rid of hunger, saturate the domestic market and lay the foundations of industrialization. Now - "not military communism" and "capitalist rails" have already been laid - they only need to be "lubricated", "to remove impediments" and "to regulate the movement" and .... then let the whole world community suffocate in powerless anger ...
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 2 February 2018 09: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Monster_Fat
                  "capitalist rails"

                  They also need markets and technologies. China without the West would not become what it has become, we will lose this race.
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            2. You Vlad
              You Vlad 2 February 2018 08: 53
              0
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              "Outrage" say .... well, well .... it is strange that someone believes that bureaucrats

              Faced with the privatization of the apartment, there were problems won in court.
          2. kunstkammer
            kunstkammer 2 February 2018 13: 52
            -1
            I would write wherever possible on the inaction of the workers of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

            blessed is he who believes - warmth in the world (s)
            if Russia will be included in the list of rogue countries?

            it seems they’ve already called enemies and a hybrid war is being waged against Russia ... And where have you been all this time? In nirvana?
            I think a wave of anti-Russian sentiment will rise (with the active support of the State Department) around the world

            Will rise? Where do you go What are such happy places? Already the ninth wave of such "moods" was raised in the west ... Aw, wake up!
            And we will be an empire of evil

            Will we? Who are we for them now? Bunny boys? What a deep sleep you have. “Hello, wake up, they robbed you!” (C)
            You can gradually gain strength and influence in the world ..

            There is a corresponding saying: “While a fat one dries, a thin one dies” ... 30 years, we’ve all been “gaining strength”, Forbes has already inflated the number of billionaires from Russia - there aren’t enough pages ... And we would have another years ... 30 to build a new steam locomotive.
            Stalin, the beast, lifted the country in 10 years ... China, narrow-eyed, in 20 years got out of outsiders to world leaders ... And our pensioner-judoist with his great managers would still have 30 years to rise from his knees ...
    2. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 2 February 2018 08: 12
      0
      You are a little bit wrong, and the point here is not the unwillingness to work, but the dominance of pro-American forces in our power structures. And until the children of the "top" study and live in the West, nothing will happen, but as they crap on our heads, and they will crap!
  31. valent45
    valent45 2 February 2018 07: 41
    0
    And what the hell ride for our citizens, which in principle can be
    arrested in those countries where they are most likely to be
    to arrest?!
  32. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 2 February 2018 08: 04
    +1
    To begin with, it would be nice to limit the freedom of movement of American diplomats across Russia, well, at least within the MKAD and disperse all the "gadushniki" organized by them like the Yeltsin Center! After all, they still do what they want on our land, and they themselves accuse Russia of interfering in their internal affairs and will be worn out to "green shit", This will be very sensitive for the US State Department and the entire top of the United States. And to express "concern", being done ugliness against us, this is another 1001 serious, “Chinese” warning!
    1. Doubting
      Doubting 2 February 2018 11: 13
      +1
      First you need to warn daughter Peskov, she knows about the threat? laughing
  33. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 2 February 2018 11: 39
    0
    Quote: APASUS
    We fight ISIS and others, what is so surprising in the search at the entrance to the subway
    Overlooked. It is necessary to fix, inspect all the lines at the entrance to cinemas, theaters, parks, shops. Yes, and on the street to inspect everyone also does not hurt.
  34. rocket757
    rocket757 2 February 2018 14: 28
    +2
    I read such an agent - Monster_Fat - Cunning, does not finish and lies! BUT IN THE MAIN UNDERSTANDINGLY OF RIGHTS - WE live in such a state where officials (all), special services and others, as if serving us, country governing institutions serve ONLY THE AUTHORITY, ACCOUNTABLE ONLY TO IT !!!! To whom does the supreme power report ???? I won’t guess, I know, but not before us, the citizens of this country !!!
    Pronounce a phrase like - They are the servants of the people - probably to make everyone laugh, although you should want to cry !!!
    For the western citizen, our State, relations between the government and its citizens, are KOSHMAR !!! It is not clear to them how a deep representative can refuse to help fellow citizens ???? When to get out SENDED TO SUCH BUTTERFLIES !!! In short, it will be cheaper to fly an aircraft carrier to the shores of bad guys and arrange maneuvers on his lawn!
    Even so, through the courts, the media and other public organizations, but the responsibility of the state to the citizen is built clearly !!!! The state also, when necessary, is supposed to take a citizen.
    Clear rules, everyone understands and respects in the vast majority of cases !!!
    Tell about our reality ?????????? I hope it’s not a secret to anyone that our state, the AUTHORITE TOP, is completely irresponsible to a citizen of our country !!!!
    And now Do not go to Africa, America, Canada and .... further on the long list !!!!!
  35. Belarus is Russia
    Belarus is Russia 2 February 2018 20: 47
    0
    Quote: you Vlad
    The Soviet Union was much larger and more powerful than Russia at the moment, both economically and territorially, but it also critically needed certain technologies and markets! I lived with the union and I remember what was in our stores and what could not be found in the afternoon! The Iron Curtain 2.0! Why step on the same rake twice? This is too straightforward ...

    What an iron curtain, you! Removing enemies and traitors, yes. Iron curtain, no! The United States lives perfectly WITHOUT the Iron Curtain. Let people travel, travel, compare, study whoever wants, and always return to Russia - and Russian Orthodox Christian do better. Best of all.
    It’s just that our citizens shouldn’t be allowed into foreign intelligence services. And they shouldn’t be allowed here-to Russia. And we must intercede for our-Russia!
    1. Belarus is Russia
      Belarus is Russia 2 February 2018 20: 59
      0
      Just protect our citizens, do not let foreign under special services. And them, foreign special services here-in Russia, do not let. And we must intercede for our-Russia! Over there, Americans travel and travel everywhere. However, they love their USA and return to the USA.