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Putin supported the mechanism of UAC entry into Rostec

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President Vladimir Putin supported the idea of ​​the Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov to connect Rostec to the financing of the MS-21 program, reports Kommersant.




A source close to the presidential administration revealed a mechanism for endorsing the idea to the newspaper: “In a letter to the president from 23 in January, the minister said that the state corporation had confirmed the possibility of allocating about 21 billion to the MS-30. in 2018 – 2020 ”. Vladimir Putin has put a visa on the document that he agrees.

This is the first step towards the transfer of the KLA to Rostec, the newspaper notes.

Meanwhile, the reform will not be limited to the inclusion of KLA in Rostec: several interlocutors told the publication that the draft presidential decree will contain a clause on the unification of KLA with the holding Russian Helicopters (included in Rostec). “Thus, it will be a question of combining the competences of the helicopter and aircraft industry under the authority of a single management company that reports directly to Rostec,” the material says.

There was a discussion in the government about this: “some officials thought it was more logical to bring together aviation industry with space, while Dmitry Medvedev shared the idea of ​​the Ministry of Industry and Trade to merge UAC and Russian Helicopters, ”one source said.

In the state corporation itself, they stressed that at the moment “there are no decisions on the entry of KLA into Rostec,” therefore, “it is extremely premature to discuss any plans for merging assets and investment.” The KLA, in turn, stated that “the structure and configuration of the assets of the aircraft industry remains the prerogative of the state,” and expressed their readiness to “carry out the assigned tasks.”
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  1. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 1 February 2018 13: 17
    +5
    If Dmitry Medvedev shares or supports any idea, this is alarming.
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 1 February 2018 13: 21
      +3
      Everything that will be aimed at improving the work of our aircraft industry should be implemented, as All aircraft industry products should be at their best, not only military but also civilian.
    2. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 1 February 2018 13: 21
      +3
      Putin supported the mechanism of UAC entry into Rostec
      - Still, you have to vote for GDP: a man is progressing.
    3. Thrall
      Thrall 1 February 2018 13: 22
      +2
      The progress of the UAC is not surprising, because in her leadership there are such talented people:
    4. Svarog
      Svarog 1 February 2018 13: 26
      +6
      Quote: iliitch
      If Dmitry Medvedev shares or supports any idea, this is alarming.

      This means that a new way has been found on how to "cut"
      1. allaykbar
        allaykbar 1 February 2018 13: 29
        +6
        This means that a new way has been found on how to "cut"


        "and lousy about the bath"

        You are directly an expert on sawing. You can already see the diagram in any topic. Himself at the trough? Or are you still dreaming?

        Well, nothing, the sternum will come in 2024 - you will send him screenshots of your messages - and he will place you at the largest trough.

        all of you Internet bettmen are like that - and as for business - like Belykh wassat

        Although what other comment from you to expect - you have such a big head. The frontal bone protrudes from my monitor.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 1 February 2018 13: 38
          +5
          Quote: allaykbar
          You are directly an expert on sawing. You can already see the diagram in any topic. Himself at the trough? Or are you still dreaming?

          Yes, I would be glad not to water ... But do you have any examples when our government made the right decision? In general, can you name at least something that really was indisputable and obvious and benefited?
        2. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 1 February 2018 14: 46
          +3
          Quote: allaykbar
          This means that a new way has been found on how to "cut"


          "and lousy about the bath"

          You are directly an expert on sawing. You can already see the diagram in any topic. Himself at the trough? Or are you still dreaming?

          Well, nothing, the sternum will come in 2024 - you will send him screenshots of your messages - and he will place you at the largest trough.

          all of you Internet bettmen are like that - and as for business - like Belykh wassat

          Although what other comment from you to expect - you have such a big head. The frontal bone protrudes from my monitor.

          And you pay attention to this -

          . “Thus, we will focus on combining the competencies of the helicopter and aircraft industry under the leadership of a single management company reporting directly to Rostec,” the article says.
          Russian Helicopters has its own control, and the KLA also. They are not abolished. But to them, in addition, a "single management company" is created, which is directly subordinate to Rostec.
          And this new link of "management" needs to be fed. And this, as you know, as is usually the case, is a new bureaucratic obstacle. The more bureaucratic links in management, the worse the direct producer works. There is no way without a bureaucratic apparatus, but its increase threatens the greatest troubles that can be imagined. If such powerful corporations with their own management are created, then why the government? Rather, some of his ministers.
          1. allaykbar
            allaykbar 1 February 2018 14: 50
            +3
            http://rostec.ru/content/files/press-rel/press-re
            lease-Rostec-optimizatsia-kadrov.pdf

            in Rostec, obviously not stupid people gathered.

            why here the whole forum considers itself smarter than the leadership of the corporation?

            Why does the bummer consider himself smarter than Chemezov?

            If such powerful corporations with their own management are created, then why the government?


            looking at your flag the question arises:

            “Have you not yet understood that it is not for you to teach the government, ministers and the state machine how to live?”

            Your people did not understand from their own experience that all the attempts of a crowd of people to understand the intricacies of management and the economy lead to the end of the economy and the state?

            1. Stas157
              Stas157 1 February 2018 18: 42
              +3
              Quote: allaykbar
              in Rostec, obviously not stupid people gathered.

              Is it really that they choose by mind? And more recently, it was nepotism. Serdyukov do not tell me the place of work? He seemed to be an adviser to Chemezov. What could he advise interestingly ... how to steal and not go to jail?
              Quote: allaykbar
              why here the whole forum considers itself smarter than the leadership of the corporation?

              No, not all. You don’t think so. The rest prefer not to be discouraged in their mental abilities.
              Quote: allaykbar
              Why does the bummer consider himself smarter than Chemezov?

              Want to ban? What is your problem? Are you jealous?
              1. allaykbar
                allaykbar 1 February 2018 23: 35
                +1
                Want to ban? What is your problem? Are you jealous?


                laughing

                No, not all. You don’t think so. The rest prefer not to be discouraged in their mental abilities.


                laughing Yes, I already realized that you are bragging about your mind. Your sofa theoretically has already replaced the entire senior staff of the state corporation.

                You at the same time can broadcast there on behalf of the legal department - I'm sure. Anyway, in your universe you decide where the big scale of affairs is. Therefore, you advise Putin, the government, the Security Council and other authorities from article to article

                So at the state corporation you have your own vision.

                What could he advise interestingly ... how to steal and not go to jail?


                Agree that this is just a flight of your imagination. And the fantasy is at the level of 36 million of your candidate.

                But I do not mind what you write here, everyone has their own point of view.
                don’t think that I’m finding fault with you

      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 2 February 2018 00: 38
        +1
        It’s better to say “Heap up the whole seed!”
    5. bald
      bald 1 February 2018 13: 33
      +3
      But it does not seem that all these monopolies, including financing, will affect new developments in the future, but it will be so. We’ll finance it (for dark reasons), and this will be archived.
    6. RASKAT
      RASKAT 1 February 2018 14: 06
      0
      Well, I don’t know how worthwhile the idea is for me, anyway Rostec practically does the floor of the plane. Why not unite in one megacorporation like Boeing or Mitsubishi. And to produce a wide range of goods from refrigerators to spacecraft.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 1 February 2018 15: 00
        +3
        Quote: RASKAT
        Well, I don’t know how worthwhile the idea is for me, anyway Rostec practically does the floor of the plane. Why not unite in one megacorporation like Boeing or Mitsubishi. And to produce a wide range of goods from refrigerators to spacecraft.

        So who is arguing with this? It is important that the bureaucratic apparatus does not increase. And he is just increasing. The more officials on the path of something new, the less likely it is that this new thing will come to life.
        1. RASKAT
          RASKAT 1 February 2018 15: 03
          0
          Here I am of course for.
          Slyusar certainly well done, but for some reason I like Chemezov more. Somehow Rostec rarely has all sorts of terms in law. Although also not everything is so rosy. Also, when merging, I think more money will be for OCD and promising developments, etc., less will be begged from budget funds. It seems so to me.
  2. pavelty
    pavelty 1 February 2018 13: 20
    +4
    Chemezov ryah not crack? How much can you merge and enlarge everything already
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 1 February 2018 13: 30
      +7
      Quote: pavlentiy
      Chemezov ryah not crack? How much can you merge and enlarge everything already

      It’s probably better to break it into pieces in the 90s, to disaggregate and sell. hi
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 1 February 2018 13: 53
      +1
      Quote: pavlentiy
      Chemezov ryah not crack? How much can you merge and enlarge everything already

      Duc then to disaggregate for subsequent enlargement. Eggs are boiled in a saucepan, the broth from cooking people, everything is at work.
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 1 February 2018 14: 04
    +6
    Doesn’t it seem that by creating this concern we are sculpting a clumsy monster clutching everything undermined, and therefore not keeping up with anything? I just looked at what Rostec was doing specifically, and it turned out that to almost everyone! !! And this is not good, because ten things to do, not one you can’t do normally!
    1. pavelty
      pavelty 1 February 2018 15: 38
      +1
      In fact of the matter:
      Rostec State Corporation was established in 2007 to promote the development, production, and export of high-tech industrial products for civilian and military purposes.
      It consists of 663 organizations, of which 9 holding companies are currently formed in the military-industrial complex and 6 in the civilian industries, as well as 32 direct management organizations. Rostec’s portfolio includes such well-known brands as Russian Helicopters, Kalashnikov, Uralvagonzavod, AvtoVAZ, KamAZ, and others.

      Where else? And how to manage all this efficiently and flexibly?
      1. akshor
        akshor 1 February 2018 18: 58
        +2
        Quote: pavlentiy

        Where else? And how to manage all this efficiently and flexibly?


        A strange question for a country where everything is managed in one snout. Lucky with a snout, it will be something like progress. He’s not lucky with a snout (here's a bang, Sobchak or Navalny president), and he will break the country into one snout, and nothing will hinder it. That is why I, including myself, criticize GDP. That he built a system, supercentralized, slow, not efficient, slow. To quickly solve the problem in Chukotka, it takes years for it to reach the Kremlin ...
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 2 February 2018 01: 17
        +3
        Quote: pavlentiy
        Rostec’s portfolio includes such well-known brands as Russian Helicopters, Kalashnikov, Uralvagonzavod, AvtoVAZ, KamAZ, and others.

        Serdyukov recently joined the board of directors of Kamaz .. Effective managers are always at work ..
  4. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 2 February 2018 17: 44
    0
    “Rostec” is not MAP, but the state control over “Rostec should be very serious: take it under your wing, - then don’t think about the asphalt, bankrupt, ruin and live off the hard workers (" who doesn’t work, he eats) ... Any growth at the expense of others is fraught with grandiose decay with the effect of an explosion.