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Kazakhstan is going to modernize Soviet equipment for further export

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Beibut Atamkulov, Minister of Defense and Aerospace Industry of the Republic of Kazakhstan, said that the department has plans to sell Soviet military equipment abroad. In Astana, we are sure that foreign partners will be interested in this technology if it is modernized at Kazakhstan defense enterprises. Atamkulov made a statement of this kind today during the presentation of the draft law relating to the defense industry and the state defense order.


According to the minister, a large number of Soviet-made military equipment remains in military warehouses in Kazakhstan. Instead of spending money on its inefficient storage (conservation), the Ministry of Industry proposes to invest in repairs and upgrades. According to Atamkulov, this ultimately will not only bring income to the Kazakhstani budget, but also make it possible to reduce to zero the very possibility of illicit trafficking. weapons inside the republic.

It should be noted that the Soviet technology in Kazakhstan is not on the balance of the Defense Ministry of Industry. According to Atamkulov, it is necessary to implement the legislative base so that it is his department that later disposed of the unused property of the Ministry of Defense.

Kazakhstan is going to modernize Soviet equipment for further export


Recall that earlier in Kazakhstan its own version of modernization was carried out. tank T-72, which eventually received the marking of T-72U4.
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  1. taiga2018
    taiga2018 1 February 2018 10: 42
    +2
    Well, if only on the cheap ...
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 1 February 2018 10: 46
      +8
      Quote: taiga2018
      Well, if only on the cheap ...

      And then there was no need to pay extra, as a legacy of the USSR who only did not trade and who just did not shove. laughing
    2. Pivot
      Pivot 1 February 2018 10: 49
      0
      And cheap is not a fact, here we need relationships with a positive history between the countries, in short, we must be able to sell, we have all trade missions and Rosoboronexport working in this direction, but how do they want to promote their goods?
      1. cniza
        cniza 1 February 2018 10: 58
        +2
        But something tells me that this is our move, as an option to circumvent sanctions.
        1. taiga2018
          taiga2018 1 February 2018 11: 04
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          as an option to circumvent sanctions

          Kazakhstan is an intermediary?
          1. cniza
            cniza 1 February 2018 11: 15
            +1
            No, the mediator is naive and simple, but there are many schemes.
          2. Vita vko
            Vita vko 1 February 2018 11: 28
            +1
            Quote: taiga2018
            Kazakhstan is an intermediary?

            Kazakhstan simply does not know where to put all this pile of scrap metal. Almost 1,5 thousand tanks have been rusting for 20 years. Moreover, we have been talking about a possible modernization for 10 years, but so far there are no buyers. The fact is that Kazakhstan has only a corps of its own; everything else has to be purchased abroad. The same Ukraine on the cheap sells components. But still, after repair and modernization, the cost of the tank becomes comparable with the new T-90 and definitely more expensive than the Russian T-72BM. The only hope is that due to sanctions, buyers will prefer to buy in Kazakhstan.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 1 February 2018 12: 07
        0
        They are pushed to the skakuas.
        1. avt
          avt 1 February 2018 12: 40
          +3
          Quote: Piramidon
          They are pushed to the skakuas.

          Well, Az is sinful about this, and will be merged in parts. Since before
          Astana is confident that foreign partners will show interest in this technology if it is modernized at Kazakhstani defense enterprises.
          to sell full-fledged cars, Astana needs to establish cooperation with Russia first of all, then with those, well, Belarusians, Jews who can supply the equipment, well, at the request of this notorious “foreign customer.” And we’ll modernize this song about ourselves ", only dengi, dengi come on. It really sounds like 10 years.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 1 February 2018 18: 39
            +2
            Hi ABT! I will not say for the old equipment, but the new, wheeled, armored Alan vehicle (4 * 4, with South Africa and Israel; an analogue of the Tiger) is already being sold abroad. They don’t tell who they sold, but Jordan, Uzbekistan had an interest, and I don’t remember exactly, but in my opinion Azerbaijan. By the way, the first ones also wanted to buy our T-72.
            The new ministry (min. Defense and aerospace industry) has something to do now. laughing . By the way, they are going to give him purchases for the army. Recently, we published an interview with the director of the 405 plant (helicopters) and high. Air Force Officer. This year they want to finally agree (previously there was a memorandum) on the large-assembly assembly of turntables. The Mi-26s are ready to be repaired (but additional equipment is needed; soon the issue should be resolved - either in the Russian Federation or we will invest in 405 and we ourselves) are preparing for the Mi-35 (24). Reanimated 406 in Aktyubinsk (there is a simpler repair, 405 full). They work in the Astana center (there Eurocopter assembly and partial repair Mi). This year they will buy 4 Mi-35s and 2 Su-30SMs. It is interesting that on our Granite we decided to make a special center for service and repair of S-300 with Almaz-Antey - he is repairing our S-300, a friend or foe system, a radar. hi
            1. avt
              avt 1 February 2018 20: 14
              +1
              Quote: Kasym
              Hi ABT!

              hi
              Quote: Kasym
              I won’t say for the old technique,

              request So we are talking about old equipment, and you kind of wrote for a long time - you were going to deploy and modernize at a repair shop in Kazakhstan. And HOW without Russia and UVZ, or Omsk, too, I can’t sort out the iron without components and documentation from Russia, I don’t imagine about devices and I don’t say - you can find Belarusian or Israeli ones. You can’t do with cannibalism in any way. Actually, it’s the same as
              Quote: Kasym
              Mi-26 repair

              By the way, as a souvenir - they found your repair plant in Russia and sent a couple seem to be restored. Open such a production in Kazakhstan to restore the Mi-26 ...... No. do not pull on the criterion of cost-effectiveness
              Quote: Kasym
              It is interesting that on our Granite we decided to make a special center for service and repair of S-300 with Almaz-Antey

              But this is really interesting and, if you competently, step by step go, it will be effective. Especially if you will not be greedy and let Almaz-Antey share in the shareholder. Then the project will definitely not be one-time but long.
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 1 February 2018 20: 30
                +2
                So without Almaz-Antey, there was no way, they came and themselves came to this opinion. Already technical documentation has gone. And this year they are waiting for one division on Granite, now everyone is preparing it.
                There is no need to open anything on the Mi-26 (everything was prepared for it there by personnel), it remains to make a decision either to invest in equipment or to give it to you for repairs, according to the director of the plant. There now recruitment has begun.
                By T-72. The Semipalatinsk plant has been sitting on defense orders since 11 years, complete disassembly, repair and assembly takes 70 days. In the same place, they upgraded their modernization, like Israel took part. And so it is clear that without UVZ in any way - although the equipment from Kharkov to repair the T-72. Now they are promoting the signed memorandum with UVZ on modernization to the level of T-90. It seems that next year the project will go. hi
                1. avt
                  avt 1 February 2018 20: 38
                  +2
                  Quote: Kasym
                  - although the equipment from Kharkov to repair the T-72.

                  bully Uhhhh! There it is! bully And I thought that the equipment at ,, Malysheva "will be cut off for the Lviv repair plant! And then yours got a little pissed and taken to Kazakhstan! bully Well have fun! good Well done! They pulled the working iron to a mockery, for sure at the price of scrap metal bully
                  Quote: Kasym
                  Now they are promoting the signed memorandum with UVZ on modernization to the level of T-90. It seems that next year the project will go.

                  Well then, yes, if, again, competently agree on shares, and even cooler, on shares with the implementation, then yes.
                  Quote: Kasym
                  the project will go.

                  Quote: Kasym
                  Mi-26
                  So it seems that for your Ministry of Emergencies a couple of cars were overhauled in Novosibirsk
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 1 February 2018 21: 47
                    +2
                    Kharkov. So I wrote to you for this deal. I repeat. My childhood friend took part. We had a lot of T-72s left, and when KZ had money, they decided to reanimate the Semipalatinsk Repair Plant (the walls were left there, without a roof and windows). The delegation went to Moscow, and then ... they poked a finger at Kharkov - there, like, agree "in your own way" (I understand what I’m talking about). Ourselves were surprised that everything was there according to the T-72 from technical documentation to equipment. Well ..., now we have agreed with UVZ on the T-90 (the memorandum was signed in 15-16). Our count with the next. years to begin implementation, and agree on this (as I understand it). There is also an agreement on BMPT Terminator based on T-72 with the assembly with us.
                    Almaz-Antey is not the first year of history. After all, we repaired and modernized our old air defense systems on our Granite (friend or foe - on Granite they consider it to be one of the main developments for KZ). Yours here is not the first time. We repair our radars there too, modernizing them. KZ is one of 12 countries that produce their own radar. Granite has 4 subsidiaries - one of them is from the French Thales, which agreed to transfer codes to its products. Granite has a state order for 50 three-coordinate radars - the first have already been delivered. Therefore, to create a joint center with Granite Almaz-Antey came independently. In the past two years, her entire commissions have come here - S-300 deliveries have gone. We had one division from the Union and Granite served it. If before there was no technical documentation (in part), now the Russian concern itself decided to transfer it. Ours says that about 15 S-300s will be enough and maybe Almaz-Antey will send complexes for repair that are behind the Urals to us. You can type yourself in a search engine: "How Kazakhstan repairs S-300."
                    I also wrote that a rearmament program had begun. NAS promised new and modernized equipment at 70-100% for the combat arms. Therefore, the "old" decided to merge, I hope that competently.
                    Mi-26. 405 plant is the only one in the region that makes a complete repair of turntables. The new ministry decided to make it basic. Therefore, we decided to maximize its work. They are already training personnel for the new Mi-35, which will be installed for 1 repair in 5 years; ready personnel for the Mi-26 (the question is only for the government). They want a large-site assembly of Mi and Ka-226 and 32. There is already a memorandum with Mi, now they are “finalizing” it. With Ka, too, there are, but there are still problems with the engines.
                    Naturally, without the interest of Moscow, Mi, Almaz-Antey, Ka, etc. not complete - as without the "division of labor and profit" !? And even more so, without ACCESSORIES?
                    Here is an interesting point. I just want to write: “Until the Eurocopter entered our market, Mi and Kat sat in silence. As soon as the cars started, Mikheev first got to ANAS, then Milevtsy.” How so? His own! ". Here Antonov was profiled, but how much they asked for - they signed tripartite memoranda !!!" ... But what was no longer to be returned. hi
                    1. avt
                      avt 1 February 2018 22: 30
                      +1
                      Quote: Kasym
                      Ourselves were surprised that everything was there according to the T-72 from technical documentation to equipment.

                      Well, that’s just understandable - 72 and 80 were brought there from the GSVG. Moreover, they didn’t have time to sell all the Sumero-Ukrainians - there were 3-4 lines on Malyshev, they now put them on the move first. There were only 64 matches, sort of like the 80s swept away.
                      Quote: Kasym
                      Until the Eurocopter entered our market, Mi and Ka sat in silence. As soon as the cars went, first Mikheev reached the National Academy of Sciences, then Milevtsy. "How so? Your own!".

                      bully Well, that’s just understandable, and I wrote - Eurocopter went to the Urals so tightly with the assembly that it was allowed to go into sanitation and was even allowed to sell flight hours. And in response, they saw our engines forced them to deliver, but Ansat and Ka-226 have not yet made theirs and they need at least three years for it, so Mikheev’s Ka engines appeared, the Indian contract popped up against our FSB -shnikov on ships made the naval version 226, well, and decided to see the approach to Kazakhstan to do. bully Well, why not?
                      Quote: Kasym
                      Antonov was profiled, but how much they asked for, they signed tripartite memoranda !!! "..

                      request These muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuo ,, Antonov "miscalculated - first sold to the Poles with the giblets of An-2, the benefit of those production was back from the USSR, then the Chinese took them serfs - they build a city for them for 2000 families. Even the builder of aircraft carriers dumped 9 dozen to China. Antonov died, and with it the production in Russia 140/148 request In principle, yours could fit into IL-112 and 114, but yours already have a good European transporter, they bought it on the wing, and Ilya got a little hen in the nest .... So yes
                      Quote: Kasym
                      But that which was no longer return.

                      An is dead.
                      1. Kasym
                        Kasym 1 February 2018 23: 29
                        +2
                        Negotiations are underway on the IL-476, but there at the initial stage - you have for yourself in the first place. But with the Chinese, by analogy with the An-12, they are close to signing.
                        "The purchase of arms and equipment should take place in the CSTO countries. Abroad, only what is not produced in our countries."
  2. avt
    avt 1 February 2018 10: 48
    +4
    Instead of spending money on its inefficient storage (conservation),
    wassat What is it like?! Well, the combination is “conservation” and inefficient storage ?? Conservation generally implies just efficient storage.
    the Ministry of Industry offers to invest in repairs and modernization.
    The manlion captain! What and how, well, with "inefficient storage" are you going to ,, repair and upgrade "?? bully No, in that
    invest
    I understand, even believe in
    will bring income
    I believe. But here's what
    Kazakhstan budget
    and as a result of this
    repair and modernization
    I doubt very much. Something tells me that in addition to just getting in your pocket
    Minister of Defense and Aerospace Industry of the Republic of Kazakhstan Beibut Atamkulov
    with the Minister’s comrades, spare parts that were not manufactured at the Ruin for equipment that the Sumeri-Ukrainians clawed at were sharply needed. So the minister started in anticipation of bakshish.
  3. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 1 February 2018 10: 52
    +2
    I know a customer for these tanks. Abkhazia And then the unrecognized Abkhazia will give them unrecognized ...
    1. avt
      avt 1 February 2018 10: 55
      +2
      Quote: Sergei Medvedev
      I know a customer for these tanks. Abkhazia And then the unrecognized Abkhazia will give them unrecognized ...

      Will give without fail, and South Ossetia too. BUT Not Kazakh, and even with inefficient storage. "
      1. Sergey Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev 1 February 2018 11: 10
        +1
        Quote: avt
        Will give without fail, and South Ossetia too. BUT Not Kazakh, and even with inefficient storage. "

        The most that is necessary! Let them sell like scrap metal! In case anyone begins to present them. Type handed over to the scrap. And in Abkhazia they will be put in order. If there is no armored repair plant there, it must be done; jobs will not hinder Abkhazians.
    2. Mwg
      Mwg 1 February 2018 11: 04
      +2
      Well, if so. But, given the latinization of the language and contracts with the United States, I strongly doubt
  4. Mwg
    Mwg 1 February 2018 11: 02
    0
    And Kazakhstan is the same where Ukraine is. They will sell everything for a penny, and then they will buy from the USA at exorbitant prices. Verily, someone else’s lesson is not a lesson.
    1. AlexVas44
      AlexVas44 1 February 2018 11: 29
      +1
      Quote: MVG
      They’ll sell everything for a penny,


      So what to do? Store (quality) is expensive. Dispose of? Where is that middle?
  5. Evil 55
    Evil 55 1 February 2018 13: 13
    0
    Do you say that they called Kazakh-arba?
  6. The brightest
    The brightest 1 February 2018 14: 40
    +1
    Speaking of the Kazakh Baltic, you noticed the Kazakhstanis did not go to VO. But VOs were blocked there, everything is blocked where the Russian question is at least somehow touched ... Blocked after about the article about the transition to the Latin alphabet.
    1. odometer
      odometer 2 February 2018 12: 02
      0
      There is no lock. Why connect it with the "Russian question"? What is the "Russian question" in Kazakhstan?
      1. Zogak
        Zogak 2 February 2018 19: 25
        0
        Quote: curvimeter
        There is no lock. Why connect it with the "Russian question"? What is the "Russian question" in Kazakhstan?


        They told you that there is a lock. If you come in somehow, then you’re sitting through a proxy. If not, then prove it - come here under the Kazakh flag.
        1. odometer
          odometer 3 February 2018 05: 07
          0
          I answer a hundred times - there is no blockage. I go in without any proxy moxis both through the browser and through the search engine and directly to the site. There is no Kazakhstan flag in the country's adjustment. The flag of the Republic of Kazakhstan, not Kazakh, is it?
          1. Zogak
            Zogak 3 February 2018 10: 15
            0
            If everyone has a lock, but you don’t, then you're lying. If you have hundreds of users from Kazakhstan who are told that there is a lock, then you either do not have brains to understand this, or you are lying for some reason intentionally. The Kazakh flag is automatically displayed at the entrance, through the Kazakh IP.
            1. odometer
              odometer 3 February 2018 10: 50
              0
              Well, this is the answer of the degenerate - it is clear that an excess of brains or crap is rushing. For stupid, I explain again - I go in freely, without any troubles. The country's flag is set in the adjustment - the flag of Kazakhstan is not there.
              1. Zogak
                Zogak 3 February 2018 11: 28
                0
                Degenerate is that person, or rather a creature that cannot understand that no one from Kazakhstan can go directly besides him. Therefore, there is a blockage, and only a dumb degenerate with crap instead of the brain will argue that there is no blockage. There are already 10 people from Kazakhstan who wrote that they could not enter. Why are you so stupid?
                For very stupid imbeciles, I explain: the flag shows which IP you are coming from.
                1. Zogak
                  Zogak 3 February 2018 11: 28
                  0
                  Now I went through the English proxy and the British flag.
                  1. odometer
                    odometer 3 February 2018 11: 56
                    0
                    As a creature and as a degenerate, you correctly describe yourself. And, better, poke your wife or whatever you prefer ... And if I usually go through the opera, at the moment I went through explorer. Without any tricks. Zero locks. So who is stupid then, huh? Comrade with bydlyatskoy mentality ...
                    1. Zogak
                      Zogak 3 February 2018 13: 10
                      0
                      Quote: curvimeter
                      As a creature and as a degenerate, you correctly describe yourself


                      Yes, I’m describing you, since you don’t have enough brains to understand that in Kazakhstan, the topvar is blocked by the campaign for everyone except you.

                      Quote: curvimeter
                      And if I usually go through the opera, at the moment I went through explorer. Without any tricks. Zero locks. So who is stupid then, huh? Comrade with bydlyatnoy mentality


                      Of course, you are dumb if you do not understand that except for you, none of the Kazakhstanis succeeds in this trick. Or deliberately lying.
                    2. Zogak
                      Zogak 3 February 2018 13: 14
                      0
                      Here is the official site where you can check the availability of sites in Kazakhstan.

                      https://kazbt.com/

                      Enter the topwar there and see what happens
                      1. odometer
                        odometer 3 February 2018 13: 29
                        0
                        No need, I go in freely. And that’s all - there’s no hunting with a clubhead to engage in discussions.
  7. axiles100682
    axiles100682 1 February 2018 15: 32
    0
    The flag of Kazakhstan is not displayed. It is possible that they blocked a direct exit, I both went in and out through the browser. I rarely comment.
  8. Dormidont
    Dormidont 2 February 2018 10: 00
    +1
    Foreign Partners - Afghanistan
  9. Strashila
    Strashila 2 February 2018 11: 59
    0
    Yes ... the USSR was Great ... which a decade its legacy cannot sell.
  10. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 2 February 2018 12: 31
    0
    The right decision, illiquid assets must be sold in a timely manner, until finally decayed. Only who will buy?
  11. Zogak
    Zogak 3 February 2018 13: 31
    0
    odometer,
    Quote: curvimeter
    No need, I go in freely. And that’s all - there’s no hunting with a clubhead to engage in discussions.


    Indeed, I argue with a piece of wood