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"Find the 10 differences": users noted the similarity of the new Ukrainian rocket with the Soviet "Uranus"

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Internet users drew attention to the similarity of the new Ukrainian cruise missile, tested on Tuesday, with the Soviet development of the end of 1970-x - missile X-35, which is part of the Uranium complex, reports RIA News.




Earlier, Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council Secretary Oleksandr Turchynov posted a video of tests on the Web and stated that the rocket was “fully developed by Ukrainian designers of the Luch enterprise in collaboration with other public and private companies.”



“Find 10 differences from the Soviet X-35E missile,” writes user Vasilyi.

“In the photo from Turchinov - the classic Soviet anti-ship missile X-35, with a range of 250 km. Developing the end of 70's, ”Andron45912806 agrees with him.

“With such a pace of arms buildup, it will soon be possible not to return the debts that Ukrainian officials received from international partners for the development of Ukraine and successfully appropriated themselves. The IMF will be silent in a rag, ”- suggests Sergei HQ.



Earlier, Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Rocket and Artillery Sciences, Doctor of Military Sciences Konstantin Sivkov doubted that it was a question of “strategic cruise missiles.” According to him, Ukraine could test a small-range missile, which “is nothing”.
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  1. Dormidont
    Dormidont 31 January 2018 09: 46
    +3
    Another Wunderwaffle
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 31 January 2018 09: 54
      +6
      In Ukraine, engines were made for Uranus. So far, this is a ground-to-ground missile, but in the long run, we should expect that it will receive a ground-to-sea class or even put into service promising Ukrainian corvettes if they are ever built.
      1. novel66
        novel66 31 January 2018 09: 59
        10
        promising Ukrainian corvette laughing

        this? laughing
        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 31 January 2018 10: 02
          +4
          Corvette "Vladimir the Great", named after the GDP) of the Supreme God of ancient reproaches) https://www.ul.kp.ru/daily/26584/3600328/

          1. novel66
            novel66 31 January 2018 10: 04
            +1
            why is he on the pope? with vertical take-off?
            1. vlad66
              vlad66 31 January 2018 10: 11
              +8
              Quote: novel xnumx
              why is he on the pope? with vertical take-off?

              Because it’s been under construction since 2011 and in the pictures at the comrade it’s all that was built, they planned as many as four, this one would be completed, or the fate of the cruiser “Ukraine” awaits him hi
              1. novel66
                novel66 31 January 2018 10: 15
                +2
                there and the road! hi
      2. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 31 January 2018 10: 05
        +3
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        promising Ukrainian corvettes, if ever built
        I drove the new Nenku hohlopolitika below the baseboard ...
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 31 January 2018 09: 49
    +3
    Earlier, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov

    The back of the chicken carcass spills on the ears of the next "peremogu" .... laughing
  3. Paul zewike
    Paul zewike 31 January 2018 09: 50
    +2
    The project Ukraine must be finished now.
    1. Omskgasmyas
      Omskgasmyas 31 January 2018 11: 12
      +1
      In no case. Puffy and chubaty must taste the independence in full for years so 20-30. To get to the most stubborn.
  4. Irek
    Irek 31 January 2018 09: 58
    +3
    This is their maximum. ..
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 31 January 2018 13: 32
      0
      But - not potone laughing laughing
  5. Zubr
    Zubr 31 January 2018 10: 01
    +3
    There is nothing to look for here, in appearance and dimensions one to one Uranus.
    1. mac789
      mac789 31 January 2018 10: 10
      +2
      Uranus and Uranus ... Only the controller is different ... A little smaller ... From a Chinese smartphone.
  6. Altona
    Altona 31 January 2018 10: 08
    +1
    Where are the wings of a cruise missile? In addition to several rows of stabilizers, there is nothing dumb. And the design of the à la Pershing rocket clearly speaks of its origin 40 years ago.
  7. Stas157
    Stas157 31 January 2018 10: 12
    +6
    This is not surprising, Ukrainians have an engine, P95-300, Motor Sich produces. So they, if they wish, can do X-101 for 5500 thousand km. The Yuzhmash missiles will help.
    1. Soran
      Soran 31 January 2018 10: 34
      0
      It remains to find the carriers.
      But somewhere the creep crept in ...
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 31 January 2018 14: 28
        0
        Quote: Soran
        It remains to find the carriers.

        and they will take them from crooks ... laughing

        Or from the Poltava Museum ...
  8. Equalized
    Equalized 31 January 2018 10: 19
    +4
    WHY SEARCH FOR DIFFERENCES ???
    No one is hiding that it is X-35E CLONE according to the technical documentation that has remained in Ukraine!
    Why these stupid "revelations"? Suppose the Iranians copied the X-55, they are also called the NEW Iranian missiles? A copy of the X-35 from the DPRK?

    Copying this thing is also not easy. Ukraine does not have X-35 themselves to launch old missiles and pass them off as their own.

    "Development started in 70x"

    And in service adopted in 2003.
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 31 January 2018 10: 22
      +3
      About 5 years ago, it was already known that X-35 was cloned, but whistleblowers did not follow such topics, they only tear the covers. This is Ukraine, to find a sensation in every news is a sacred thing)
      wink


      1. Serg koma
        Serg koma 31 January 2018 12: 05
        +2
        Quote: Equalized
        whistleblowers then do not follow such topics, they only tear the covers. This is Ukraine, to find a sensation in every news is a sacred thing)

        In this article, do you think Turchinov is a "whistle blower"? After all, it is he who claims the appearance of a “new WINGED rocket” in Ukraine. The article and comments disprove the "STATEMENT" of the aforementioned bonfire-head. And they point, like you, to
        Quote: Equalized
        clone X-35
        If you do not understand something, review the video again and re-read the article.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 31 January 2018 10: 27
      +4
      Quote: Equalized
      Copying this thing is not easy either

      Did they copy?
      No, they just took a Soviet missile and called it a new one. Before copying, like the Iranians or the Chinese, Ukraine is still very, very far away.

      While they have, like with a mortar sight. They took the ancient Soviet, repainted, replaced the nameplates, replaced the rubber with a lower quality, got the "latest Ukrainian sight"
      1. Equalized
        Equalized 31 January 2018 10: 29
        +5
        Can you read? Where did they get the X-35? Ukraine does not have them.
        This is a new rocket.

        We shot off a "blank" (throw tests) to check the starting turbojet engine. ARLGSN for SU missiles yet. Before the series, she’s like to China.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 31 January 2018 10: 35
          +3
          Quote: Equalized
          Can you read? Where did they get the X-35? Ukraine does not have them.

          How do you know that not?
          Recall how many military districts Ukraine got during the collapse of the USSR?
          1. Equalized
            Equalized 31 January 2018 10: 38
            +4
            Dear, read the history of the X-35 and all questions will disappear immediately.
            Here is another useful link to familiarize yourself with the details, I hope the Russian AST Center is a good source of information for you and not a biased hohloperemozhny site ???

            https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3071011.html

            Before you write something and pass it off as a fact, you should familiarize yourself with the topic. Unless of course you do this for the purpose of propaganda.

            Ukraine has many rare animals left, even X-58 anti-radar and KAB-1500 bombs. Not to mention the heavy CR X-55. But it is X-35 because of its sad history - no.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 31 January 2018 10: 59
              +2
              Quote: Equalized
              But it is the X-35 because of its sad history - no.

              Are you sure?
              Can you responsibly say that before the collapse of the USSR, not a single specimen appeared in the metal, and it was never tested? And that despite the readiness for its production in Kharkov, Ukraine, after the collapse, not a single sample of this rocket remained?

              May I remind you of the “Ukrainian” UAS “Kvitnik”, so to speak, the production of which gradually died out with the exhaustion of the Soviet backlog of components and assemblies for the Soviet UAS “Krasnopol”, and now they “develop” this theme exclusively by creating mock-ups in caliber 155- mm
              1. Equalized
                Equalized 31 January 2018 11: 16
                +2
                Okay, one sample left wink wink
                If you are so pleased to believe it.

                Soon there will be shootings of more batches of missiles, not throwing but test ones. Samples will turn into endless))
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 31 January 2018 11: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: Equalized
                  Soon there will be shootings of more batches of missiles, not throwing but test ones. Samples will turn into endless))

                  What about the “Quicksilver”? 8)))))))))))
                  1. Equalized
                    Equalized 31 January 2018 11: 49
                    +1
                    You can laugh further. I tell you that in 2018 there will be many more launches. During the next starts, I’ll remember if you are still active on the site.

                    "One remaining sample" will magically multiply and acquire a new test ARGSN and fly far.
                    1. Serg koma
                      Serg koma 31 January 2018 12: 12
                      +1
                      Quote: Equalized
                      Where did they get the X-35? Ukraine does not have them.
                      This is a new rocket.

                      Quote: Equalized
                      About 5 years ago it was already known that they were cloning X-35

                      Those. according to your information - there are NO samples, NO drawings create a NEW "WINGED" missile according to photograph X-35 wassat ?
                      1. abc_alex
                        abc_alex 31 January 2018 17: 52
                        +1
                        The DPRK could develop an anti-ship cruise missile, the model for which, presumably, was the Russian Kh-35 missile, an expert at the Center for Non-Proliferation Studies named after im. James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies Jeffrey Lewis

                        According to D. Lewis, rumors about the development of a cruise missile appeared about a week ago, when the DPRK propaganda video appeared on the media and on the Internet, where you can see the novelty of the North Korean military-industrial complex. A rocket in a 50-minute clip is visible for only a couple of seconds, but this was enough for the experts to conclude that the rocket was developed, ITAR-TASS reported.

                        D. Lewis draws attention to the similarity of the rocket depicted in the North Korean movie with the Russian X-35. On this basis, he makes the assumption that military engineers in the DPRK took the Russian missile as the basis. He recalls that over the past year there have been reports of the development of a DPRK cruise missile called KN-09.

                        However, experts initially suggested that the DPRK would copy Chinese or Iranian types of cruise missiles. D. Lewis notes that the export of X-35 does not violate the regime of trade in rocket technology. At the same time, such deliveries to the DPRK would violate the sanctions regime imposed by the UN against this country.

                        D. Lewis does not exclude that a sample of the missile could have entered the DPRK from countries that purchase Russian weapons. Such missiles are in service with at least four countries.



                        And now we recall the "motor" scandal linking Yuzhmash and the DPRK missile program and the puzzle is developing :)
                    2. Sneaky Urus
                      Sneaky Urus 31 January 2018 13: 19
                      +1
                      what Ukrainians well done. One year - bam! ready rocket. smile smile The United States smokes hysterically. China is shamed. What is it over there? There is an engine (old), and put a rocket on it, like two fingers on the asphalt ... Ha ha ha ... good
                    3. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 31 January 2018 18: 04
                      +1
                      Quote: Equalized
                      I tell you that in 2018 there will be many more launches.

                      Quite possible. And then they use the Soviet backlog on the nodes and assemblies, and the topic stalls.
                      Although they will manage to cut the money.
    3. Omskgasmyas
      Omskgasmyas 31 January 2018 11: 16
      0
      X-35 tests passed at the beginning of 90's.
      It was exported as armament of boats and corvettes in the 90 to India, Vietnam, Algeria in the export version of the X-35E.
      Our rocket was adopted by the 2003 not from a good life. In 2009-2010, a batch of 112 missiles was manufactured. and that’s it.
    4. Mih1974
      Mih1974 31 January 2018 13: 38
      +1
      And where did you get the idea that "they are not in Ukraine"? Are you allowed to secret information on the available stocks of ammunition and weapons in Ukraine? Well, the same thing, so we sit and shut up.
      But for normal readers - pay attention to a very "strange moment" and the Rocket and Launcher are obviously serial and "thought out", but the canoe onto which it was loaded is definitely artisanal and concocted "on the knee". This is a very weighty argument to think about - but aren't the Ukrainians trying to pass off something from the storerooms for a "new development".
      here is the video of the first flight (officially) of the Su-57

      Pay attention to how it differs from the "beautiful" "new" Ukrainian rocket !!
  9. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 31 January 2018 10: 20
    +1
    “In the photo from Turchinov - classic Soviet anti-ship missile X-35, with a range of 250 km. The development of the end of 70's "

    Apparently, they accidentally found a rocket in the warehouse that remained of the division of the arsenals of the USSR, and launched it. Against the background of the launch, they thoroughly curved before the cameras. I think this is the most likely explanation.
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 31 January 2018 10: 25
      +7
      There are no X-35 in stock. Ukraine has only the technical documentation left in Kharkov ... they planned to establish the release of X-35 there but did not grow together because the USSR collapsed. The missile became a long-term construction and was adopted by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation only in 2003-2004 years because of this ..

      Perhaps in Ukraine, in addition to the documentation, they also produced separate component parts of missiles (engines for sure), so it was possible to create a chain relatively quickly. Although the project is over 10 years old. It is also essentially unfinished.
  10. Piramidon
    Piramidon 31 January 2018 10: 27
    +1
    And what kind of circles on the rocket are drawn there? They look like radiation badges. They riveted from Chernobyl metal, or what?
    1. Omskgasmyas
      Omskgasmyas 31 January 2018 11: 18
      +1
      This is so that the enemies are more afraid. am
  11. Antares
    Antares 31 January 2018 11: 48
    +2
    Wherever Ukraine could specify, what copy / clone X 35. Moreover, despite the fact that development began at the end of 70 - the first tests were half 80 and only 86 were successful.
    Given that in Ukraine there is no X 35 and there is no production, the production of Neptune will be new for the country's industry. Kharkov and Kiev Ray with Motor Sich are the main manufacturers.
    Mutual scattering of something is not funny for a long time.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 31 January 2018 12: 06
      +2
      Quote: Antares
      ... Neptune’s production will be new to the country's industry. Kharkov and Kiev Ray with Motor Sich are the main manufacturers.

      How many child prodigies have been shown by them with the presence of "royal persons", but things didn’t go beyond the exhibition samples and something is not observed in the industry.
    2. Sneaky Urus
      Sneaky Urus 31 January 2018 13: 24
      +1
      Can you name the whole chain of manufacturers? KR is not only an engine.
      1. Equalized
        Equalized 31 January 2018 14: 40
        0
        Starting solid-fuel engine - Pavlograd Chemical Plant (the same make the OTRK engine)
        March engine - MS
        GSN - LLC Radioniks in cooperation with the Radar plant
        Rocket, warhead - Kb Ray, Zirka
  12. Shteffan
    Shteffan 1 February 2018 00: 21
    0
    how to carry on exhibitions, so x-35 super duper "modern Russian development", and how someone copied so, "Soviet development of the late 70s." laughing laughing laughingYou’ll figure it out, either the Ukrainians washed up a masterpiece, or Russia adopted Soviet trash into service. laughing laughing
    1. SEER
      SEER 2 February 2018 05: 34
      0
      X-35E
      About super-duper did not hear.
      https://topwar.ru/115486-raketa-h-35-odna-iz-luch
      shih-v-mire.html
      "- Did the USA really want to buy the X-35E seeker and put them on its Harpoon missiles?
      - Yes, indeed, in 1990-x there was a meeting of representatives of SPE Radar MMS, which produces GOS for X-35, with representatives of the company Laceheed. The Americans asked for a sample head to test for compliance of its characteristics with the requirements of the US Department of Defense, including tests for noise immunity. If the tests would confirm the declared characteristics, they were ready to put it on the “Harpoon” rocket. But we did not give them such permission.
      Some time after the negotiations, under unclear circumstances, the chief designer of the GOS X-35E died. He was killed on the train Moscow - St. Petersburg. And then the main algorithm specialist - a specialist who developed special software for digital information processing in GOS - went missing. The loss of the main ideologists of creating modern GOS has thrown us four years away. "
      “Technical solutions that provide rocket noise immunity are a state secret. But I can say that the X-35E is significantly higher than its foreign counterparts, including Harpoon.”
      - The X-35E type missile is the first Russian unified missile, the use of which is possible from various types of carriers. Prior to this, the classical approach was that for carriers of different types and types of troops (airplanes, helicopters, ships, coastal complexes) a separate type of rocket was created. The creation of these types of weapons - the pleasure is quite expensive. Therefore, in order to optimize costs, it was decided to create a unified rocket that would allow it to be used from airplanes, helicopters, ships, coastal complexes and, if absolutely necessary, from submarines.

      "The Uran-E complex meets international standards, and according to the criterion of" cost-effectiveness "is optimal for solving combat missions at sea with tactical-class missiles." http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/uran/ur
      an.shtml