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Hand-to-hand fight "for historical truth" Svanidze and Shevchenko in the studio of the radio station "KP"

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The scramble interrupted the broadcast of “intellectual sparring” between Nikolai Svanidze and Maxim Shevchenko in the Komsomolskaya Pravda studio. Broadcast interviews with two journalists was conducted on YouTube, and therefore radio listeners could become both spectators of what is happening.


On the 52 minute of discussion of the twists and turns of the national (and not only)storiesSvanidze decided that he could not sit still in his chair and attacked Shevchenko, who had previously accused the “historian” of spitting on the graves of Soviet soldiers. Svanidze, without removing the radio headset, hit Shevchenko on the cheek, to which he responded with his blow - and the “historian” was on the studio floor.

Hand-to-hand fight "for historical truth" Svanidze and Shevchenko in the studio of the radio station "KP"


Initially, the verbal skirmish went hand-to-hand after Svanidze once again declared that Stalin had brought the country to a catastrophic state before the start of the Great Patriotic War, while the “historian” called Shevchenko a bastard because he did not think so. Shevchenko responded by calling Svanidze a complete demagogue.

The radio broadcaster tried in vain to urge the respected, in her words, men for calm and prudence, but other employees of Komsomolskaya Pravda radio station had to intervene in the matter, who separated the hot representatives. cultural intelligentsia.

As the practice of radio broadcasting has shown, Russian intellectuals are not always able to explain their point of view with the help of ordinary arguments, and therefore do not disdain with fistfights right before the eyes of the audience.

Radio Video "TVNZ":

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  1. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 31 January 2018 06: 33
    76
    But Svanidze himself asked for it. smile Only in this way and nothing else!
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 31 January 2018 06: 37
      37
      Svanidze clearly did not behave like an intellectual; as a result, he was disgraced all over the country.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 31 January 2018 07: 18
        52
        Svanidze greatly overestimated his capabilities. At first it looked very faded in the discussion, then, having not found the arguments, he himself got into a fight, and got what he deserved (to be honest, got a little!). Maxim Shevchenko has nothing to blame. He only defended himself, and did not attack the weak and wretched.
        Quote: Anarchist

        If you rephrase a little old wisdom, then - "the truth must be with fists!"

        So Svanidze also thought so!
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 31 January 2018 08: 58
          21
          Another test fight smile :
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 31 January 2018 09: 54
            13
            So, because all these "fighters for a free Russia" are sitting abroad, from there they are "fighting"

            Here you can’t dissolve your filthy tongues

            I can imagine with what pleasure someone would hang lyuley to the same Kasparov
        2. Now we are free
          Now we are free 31 January 2018 09: 13
          27
          Actually, everything that needed to be known about the "cultural" opposition was shown by Svanidze ... The hypocritical, boorish, aggressive gut of the "liberal opposition" burst out. And these "lights of democracy" will still say something about the bloody regime and the bloody gebe "? ..
          1. Now we are free
            Now we are free 31 January 2018 13: 34
            +4

            I think now they will make the photojab on the "Nepolzhivye" thanks to the Svanidze above the roof ...)))
        3. Anarchist
          Anarchist 31 January 2018 09: 19
          +6
          Quote: Stas157
          So Svanidze also thought so!

          It is strange to see my quote above the grid. And why did you attribute it to Svanidze? If you have something to present, then write to me and not ...
          Not all this is right!
        4. SERGUS
          SERGUS 31 January 2018 10: 06
          18
          Quote: Stas157
          Svanidze greatly overestimated his capabilities. At first it looked very faded in the discussion, then, not finding arguments, he himself got into a fight, and got what he deserved

          And this man is still “broadcasting” to us something from the TV screens? Yes, he cannot even justify his position, and he waves his little hands, and even does this unsuccessfully. Correctly said: power is in truth, 2-0 in favor of Shevchenko good
      2. avt
        avt 31 January 2018 09: 49
        +6
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Svanidze clearly did not behave like an intellectual

        Just as an intellectual, the kung fu theoretician. And got
        "At Palm Key" [16] he received everything that was due to him "
        bully
      3. PalBor
        PalBor 31 January 2018 10: 04
        11
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Svanidze clearly did not behave like an intellectual; as a result, he was disgraced all over the country.

        Or vice versa, he behaved like a typical intellectual: stubborn, not even allowing the thought of the existence of someone else’s opinion, creating nothing, but only criticizing and destroying.
        Chekhov also deduced such in his plays.
        And Uncle Kolya is also an anti-adviser, which Kol’s ideological inspirer is to look for.
    2. Anarchist
      Anarchist 31 January 2018 06: 37
      22
      I imagine what would happen here if we were within reach of each other ...
      If you rephrase a little old wisdom, then - "the truth must be with fists!"
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 07: 08
        42
        Quote: Anarchist
        If you rephrase a little old wisdom, then - "the truth must be with fists!"

        If you rephrase even more ancient wisdom, then "If you hit on the left cheek - hit with the right!".
        Shevchenko did just that. And so I live my whole life.
        Svanidze has long been asking for it. And he is not alone. To collect Bolotnaya-2, the cordon, the convoy and on its own, as under the tsars, to build roads in Siberia in Vladimir .... At once the dirt in the country would decrease - both intellectually-political and road.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 31 January 2018 08: 05
          24
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Svanidze has long been asking for it. And he is not alone. To collect Bolotnaya-2, the cordon, the convoy and on its own, as under the tsars, to build roads in Siberia in Vladimir .... At once the dirt in the country would decrease - both intellectually-political and road.

          I agree, you must answer for the bazaar. Well, what kind of "historian" is he? That he, that the red-headed brother, that Kulikov, who in Chechnya persuaded our guys to surrender to Dudaev. It’s high time to send all this mold to the State Department. let them parasitize there.
          1. Glory1974
            Glory1974 31 January 2018 17: 25
            +6
            that Kulikov, who in Chechnya was trying to persuade our guys to surrender to Dudaev.

            Not Kulikov, he was the commander of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, but Sergei Kovalev, who was repeatedly beaten by the officers' faces in any case.
            1. Baloo
              Baloo 31 January 2018 20: 06
              +6
              Quote: glory1974
              Not Kulikov, he was the commander of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, but Sergei Kovalev, who was repeatedly beaten by the officers' faces in any case.

              Yes, the same Kovalev, who headed the clemency commission at the EBN and traded left and right. I saw on TV those footage where Kovalev persuaded our guys to surrender under his guarantee. Nearby stood bearded and smiled contentedly. But someone believed Kovalev.
        2. jjj
          jjj 31 January 2018 09: 26
          +2
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          If you rephrase even more ancient wisdom, then "If you were hit on the left cheek - hit with the right!".

          This wisdom has a sequel:
          "But don't substitute!"
        3. Anarchist
          Anarchist 31 January 2018 09: 33
          12
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          "If you hit on the left cheek - hit with the right!".

          The Bible does not need to be paraphrased! There is everything and for all occasions! - "With what measure you measure, that will be measured to you too!"
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 31 January 2018 09: 58
            +2
            Just do not confuse the moral principle and physical actions.
        4. avt
          avt 31 January 2018 10: 28
          16
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Shevchenko did just that.

          On K.P. found - ,, I can’t be silent! " bully
          today is 10: 11
          Yuri, Novosibirsk
          Then they told me that someone wrote beautifully on the internet: "There are three things that you can look at forever - this is the fire, the flowing restless water, and how Svanidze gets in the face!"

          Novosibirsk, Russia
          bully bully bully
        5. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 31 January 2018 10: 39
          13
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          If you rephrase even more ancient wisdom, then "If you were hit on the left cheek - hit with the right!".

          A "dvuhochka" so-so normally passed, in the case good
          Max well done, it can be released for debate yes
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 16: 30
            +7
            Greetings soldier !
            Quote: Stroporez
            Max well done, it can be released for debate
            This is not a glass of water splashing .... good I would also add from the top, from above, with the heel in the sternum ... I think liberals would be sober so healthy .... "
            I think the laughter is not over yet. Now Svanidze will sue to defend his “honor and dignity" (it’s already funny, right? lol ) and we will laugh in chorus when Max is sentenced to pay Svanidze thousands of 10 damage. For 10 thousands, I would also feel Svanidze’s face. I’m only afraid that the consequences for Svanidze would be harder .... In Germany, for two Germans in 2002 they didn’t sit us down for two years, they deported us and the matter was over. In the case of this "historian" would have been enough years for 5 .....
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 31 January 2018 17: 59
              +1
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              This isn’t splashing water out of cups .... I’d add from my feet, from above, with my heel into the sternum ... I think liberals would be sober so cool .... "

              When I looked at vidyuha, I thought the same thing, everything, as taught, it was possible to "open" one more nose. good
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Now Svanidze will sue to defend his “honor and dignity” (it’s already ridiculous, right?) And we will laugh in chorus when Max is sentenced to pay Svanidze 10 thousand damages.

              That's what it means to breathe one air in due time drinks Thoughts converge in a pretty penny. Here, too, "bytovuha" was a year and a half ago. A neighbor trolls me, trolls me, then he slapped my son’s mouth, you know, the roof was demolished belay three of me from the "body" unhooked me wassat The same contra, filed a lawsuit ....., and I caught him near the car and also "gave thanks" laughing Such a healthy dumpling, but on request it turned out that 7-ke from the army mowed laughing , well, I’m saying, like throwing people at people. I jumped on that, and so ... it could have been a sneak. Here I always say, do not be famously ......
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 22: 12
                +5
                Quote: Stroporez
                That's what it means to breathe one air in due time

                For more than two dozen calendars, I have been soaked through with them - I go fishing in the evening at the dacha in the summer in the old cap ... drinks I'm used to ...
                Quote: Stroporez
                I always say, do not wake famously ......

                The main thing is not to wake us up ... Until they touch us, we are white and fluffy d'Artagnans. But when some evil spirits raise their tail - sometimes I am afraid of myself. No one else.
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 1 February 2018 02: 51
                  +1
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  I go fishing in the evening at the cottage in the summer in the old cap I go ... I'm used to it ...

                  I'm in panama wink wink
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  The main thing is not to wake us up ... Until they touch us, we are white and fluffy d'Artagnans.

                  Even better yes yes
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  Maya - I’m sometimes afraid of myself. No one else.

                  This is the main problem, as soon as the conflict situation, the “young” one immediately climbs out of me, for justice I, as it were, the Commander, what I taught, I got soldier drinks
      2. vlad66
        vlad66 31 January 2018 08: 37
        13
        Quote: Anarchist
        I imagine what would happen here if we were within reach of each other ...

        Sanya drinks hi it would be a film like during the years of perestroika on a video about kung fu and karate laughing And Shevchenko’s class, he had been asking for a long time for Svinidze, was finally interrogated. Oh, sorry on the one hand, it’s not me who drove him in, but, on the other hand, also to sit then for some shit. fellow
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 31 January 2018 18: 14
          +3
          Quote: vlad66
          the last one was interrogated, oh sorry on the one hand, that I didn’t drive him

          In the queue, comrades, in the queue repeat
          1. vlad66
            vlad66 31 January 2018 18: 19
            +7
            Quote: Stroporez
            In the queue, comrades, in the queue

            Who will I be what Damn until the turn comes to me from this body, some points will remain. repeat
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 31 January 2018 18: 28
              +4
              Quote: vlad66
              Who will I be Damn until the turn comes to me from this body, some points will remain.

              Soldier Lesha seemed to be taking.
              Man, well, do not thresh him in a crowd, then we have sorry yes drinks
              1. vlad66
                vlad66 31 January 2018 18: 32
                10
                Quote: Stroporez
                Soldier Lesha seemed to be taking.

                what what After Alexei Batkovich there will be nothing to do request
                A friend will have to catch Gozman. drinks drinks
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 2 February 2018 23: 55
                  +5
                  Vlad hi !
                  Quote: vlad66
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Soldier Lesha seemed to be taking.

                  what what After Alexei Batkovich there will be nothing to do request
                  A friend will have to catch Gozman. drinks drinks
                  Can Gozman take a turn? It seems to me that after Svanidze this is the next "historian" .... angry
                  Amnuel hasn't been recorded yet? If cho - I'm the first ...
    3. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 31 January 2018 06: 42
      35
      Svanidze has been asking for more than a dozen years. Finally, at least one adequate person was found who was able to answer for all the humiliations that our country, people, this American extortion inflicted.
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 31 January 2018 06: 58
        10
        Shevchenko needs to work on the blows, he needs to sign up for boxing, and I would also put a low-kick laughing
        1. Mar.Tirah
          Mar.Tirah 31 January 2018 07: 00
          16
          Well, I would have killed a suffocator. And so his glasses flew away. And for such insignificance, decent people can not be set.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 31 January 2018 09: 22
            +5
            Quote: Mar. Tira
            Well, I would have killed a suffocator. And so his glasses flew away. And for such insignificance, decent people can not be set.

            Shevchenko is actually very tall, just, usually sits on the telly and it doesn’t strike the eye, well, as it turned out, he can stand up for himself, and not just speak. By the way, his oratory is also at the level of
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 31 January 2018 11: 15
              +4
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              Quote: Mar. Tira
              Well, I would have killed a suffocator. And so his glasses flew away. And for such insignificance, decent people can not be set.

              Shevchenko is actually very tall, just, usually sits on the telly and it doesn’t strike the eye, well, as it turned out, he can stand up for himself, and not just speak. By the way, his oratory is also at the level of

              Wasteland is your Shevchenko.
              1. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 31 January 2018 11: 47
                +3
                Quote: RUSS
                Wasteland is your Shevchenko.

                Well, as you can see, from the video to the article, for his words, Shevchenko is ready to answer laughing
                PS It's great that you can even call on the Internet without a reasoned person, I’m not sure that in real life, you would say such a thing to him, especially after yesterday’s events wink
                1. RUSS
                  RUSS 31 January 2018 17: 03
                  +2
                  Quote: Stirbjorn
                  PS It's great that you can even call on the Internet without a reasoned person, I’m not sure that in real life, you would say such a thing to him, especially after yesterday’s events

                  Shevchenko changes his shoes in the air, it’s a bit of a slouch, to put it mildly, didn’t get along on any TV channel, now he has clung to Venediktov’s Echo of Moscow laughing
        2. Cheshire
          Cheshire 31 January 2018 07: 08
          +6
          It’s enough for the loose carcass of the old liberalist that Shevchenko moved him a couple of times.
          Finally, there was at least one adequate person who was able to answer for all the humiliation that our country, people, this American extortionist inflicted

          Perhaps you wanted to write "able to ask for all humiliation"?
          In any case, Shevchenko is ideologically very close to Svanidze. Mikheev would have been there - the carcass would not have lifted its ass, quacked while sitting.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 31 January 2018 08: 35
            +6
            Quote: Cheshire
            In any case, Shevchenko is ideologically very close to Svanidze.

            How's that? belay The views are ABSOLUTELY different. wink
            1. Cheshire
              Cheshire 31 January 2018 18: 34
              +1
              People with different views cannot constantly be invited to participate in the broadcasts of “Matzo's Ear”.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 31 January 2018 19: 58
                +1
                Quote: Cheshire
                People with different views cannot constantly be invited to participate in the broadcasts of “Matzo's Ear”.

                Well this is not an echo of matzah. wink Although they echoed somehow on the echo, and Kvachkov was invited. He smeared them very beautifully then, calmly and reasonably. hi
                1. Cheshire
                  Cheshire 1 February 2018 07: 06
                  0
                  The key word was - constantly.
                  hi
          2. Mar.Tirah
            Mar.Tirah 31 January 2018 08: 44
            +8
            He said as he said. He made claims against the Soviet and Russian people, Shevchenko answered. Shevchenko cannot be close to Svanidze, he is a rebel. He has the protection of oppressed peoples in the first place, including against the wrong in his opinion, methods of government of the Russian leadership. Svanidze henchman of the Yeltsin pro-Western ideology. So he will remain the Gosdepovsky grant-eater
            1. Cheshire
              Cheshire 31 January 2018 18: 36
              +1
              The whole difference is one with grants, the other a rebel. None of this prevents them from holding similar positions on most issues that are sensitive to me.
      2. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 31 January 2018 06: 59
        +8
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        answer for all the humiliations that this country has inflicted on our people, this American extortion.
        - Well done Max!
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 31 January 2018 10: 51
          +3
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          Well done Max!

          This young man Maxim Shevchenko was thrown from everywhere, from the first channel, from various commissions and councils, and now this "patriot" works for you favorite radio station "Echo of Moscow"
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 31 January 2018 07: 03
      11
      Maxim was clearly more convincing, and his "argument" Svanidze himself begged. lol
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 31 January 2018 07: 18
        +8
        NEXT! The head cries.
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 31 January 2018 20: 19
          0
          The masses are chanting - Ice ax, Ice ax !! good lol
    5. Pravodel
      Pravodel 31 January 2018 08: 58
      +3
      I hope that Shevchenko well smeared this villain, liber ......... astu, a traitor to Russia.
      It is necessary to invite our patriots and liberals to the studio more often so that the patriots sweep the liberals when they attack, and thereby teach them the mind of the mind ...

      "People-State-Fatherland" - this is the slogan of every patriot of Russia: a strong Russia, a united nation, a prosperous Fatherland that cannot be defeated by internal and external enemies.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 31 January 2018 20: 26
        0
        The bad thing is that the governor there is an ardent Yeltsinist. He has already assessed Svanidze’s deed and called him a hero.
    6. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 31 January 2018 09: 01
      +6
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      But Svanidze himself asked for it. smile Only in this way and nothing else!

      And on "Echo of Moscow" one of the bloggers interprets the situation a little differently, but also not bad)))
      rico76
      January 30, 2018 | 23:29
      mikhail_spb_: do not distort ... Shevchenko purposefully turned up under this slap in order not to be the instigator of the fight. And then just heaped on this dude lyuley!
      Well done Maxim! Svanidze snatched off the case!
      To Shevchenko there is also a huge request to pile on lyuley next time to Shenderovich, Govnopolsky and Parkhomenko.
      True, in the last two cases this will make it harder. They prudently linking them to Russia.

      https://echo.msk.ru/news/2139100-echo/comments.ht
      ml # comments
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 31 January 2018 09: 08
        +4
        And it’s funny to watch how the majority support Shevchenko on “Echo”. It’s funny to read how “the whole liberal army” confronts them
        mikhail_spb_
        January 30, 2018 | 23:03

        Finally, there was one decent man who gave a hint to the Stalinist Islamist!


        alrichter
        January 30, 2018 | 23:04
        mikhail_spb_: The radical Islamist Shevchenko showed his whole rotten essence!


        dach_nic
        January 30, 2018 | 23:09
        olegleon: The Nazi-Islamist-Stalinist scum Shevchenko could not argue Svanidze with argument and provoked a fight.
        Well scum he is scum.
    7. Loess
      Loess 31 January 2018 09: 11
      +9
      Shevchenko did what I think about every time I hear Svanidze speaking.
    8. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 31 January 2018 09: 46
      +5
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      But Svanidze himself asked for it. smile Only in this way and nothing else!

      The fighter from Shevchenko is also useless. sad Such an opportunity was to cripple this vile Jew! I am sincerely surprised how this scum moves around Maskwe, in any other normal city it would simply be made incapable. The paradoxical lack of a sense of self-preservation, and besides, among the Jews.
      Increasingly, the failure of the authorities has to be compensated for by the consciousness of citizens. Someone crippled Polish diplomats in response to the beating of the children of the Russian embassy. The Kremlin didn’t react; Warsaw had to say hello to class-conscious citizens through the Polish embassy. Russian children immediately stopped beating. And such cases in bulk. The people of Russia, unlike the Kremlin, do not give a damn about the humiliation of his country.
    9. Dimontius
      Dimontius 31 January 2018 10: 08
      +2
      Again, Ukraine grappled with Georgia, well done Shevchenko laughing
    10. Vend
      Vend 31 January 2018 10: 12
      0
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      But Svanidze himself asked for it. smile Only in this way and nothing else!

      When the arguments end, fists come into play. If I had once been a student, I would have seen a dispute between gray-haired meters of history. It was something with something laughing .
    11. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 31 January 2018 12: 33
      +4
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      But Svanidze himself asked for it. smile Only in this way and nothing else!

      I agree, Karlovich was the first to start the fight, but the lazy presenter of the “yellow press” was the first to blame, who heard threats of “katso” to be given in the face and didn’t react like that, but she silently waited for how it would end. And after the fight, she condemned both did not say a word, who started the 1st.
      So "all liberals work / Soloviev-Shapiro /.
    12. Mih1974
      Mih1974 31 January 2018 20: 12
      +1
      Well, for good, even the administrator of "hooligan behavior" can be soldered good ! There is a fact of the attack - there is even a video for the whole country. Moreover, a careful look shows that Shevchenko stood like a pillar, didn’t even take any protective measures, which at least could be used in court as a “provocative” or “mutual fight” " There is no 100% attack here, albeit a lousy and despicable intellectual, but it was Svanidze who attacked. So - 15 days of imprisonment in the bullpen is the most for a "buoy" that would collect the rest of the brains in a heap and change his mind.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 31 January 2018 06: 33
    23
    Finally, there was a real man on this scum ... Bravo Maxim ... good entirely on your side and support you.
    1. zyzx
      zyzx 31 January 2018 07: 52
      +5
      Well, Shevchenko is still a fruit, the Crimea is not ours, in his opinion.
      1. vasya.pupkin
        vasya.pupkin 31 January 2018 12: 40
        +2
        Quote: zyzx
        Well, Shevchenko is still a fruit, the Crimea is not ours, in his opinion.

        You probably confused Shevchenko with Karlovich.
        1. zyzx
          zyzx 31 January 2018 13: 24
          0
          Unfortunately no. His position has been unchanged for many years. Crimea tse Ukraine.
          1. vasya.pupkin
            vasya.pupkin 31 January 2018 13: 26
            +3
            Sorry, I didn’t know that he was "pereobutsya".
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 31 January 2018 07: 52
      +8
      Quote: The same Lech
      Finally, there was a real man on this scum ... Bravo Maxim ... good entirely on your side and support you.

      I support the next "meeting" with Gozman and Sytin ... I put everything on Max. yes
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 31 January 2018 08: 31
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        .the next "meeting" with Gozman and Sytin ...

        Yes, almost the entire Kremlin list here and those who were "pardoned" in the first place. I put on Zhirik
      2. andj61
        andj61 31 January 2018 09: 27
        +7
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: The same Lech
        Finally, there was a real man on this scum ... Bravo Maxim ... good entirely on your side and support you.

        I support the next "meeting" with Gozman and Sytin ... I put everything on Max. yes

        And what is real in this man? recourse
        A healthy 51-year-old man piled on a 61 year old man with a lyule. None of you will say that Svanidze is much inferior in terms of physical condition to Shevchenko? And if at the place of Svanise someone was a little stronger, for example, Nikolai Valuev (I do not take my views, but physical condition), then Shevchenko would also pile him with cradles? repeat I doubt it very much. Shevchenko would have shown himself to be an eagle if he had shut up Svanidze verbally, but he chose a different method of influence. But he could, for example, simply grab the hand of Svanidze, with whom he was going to give him a slap in the face, and say that, they say, a fight is the last argument of the liberals. But Shevchenko missed this moment.
        The assault in an intellectual dispute cannot be an argument - from the word "absolutely"!
        I deeply do not accept Svanidze’s views, I’m just disgusted by his behavior on this air, but to beat him for his publicly expressed views is too much! I share the views of Shevchenko, but his behavior in this case is beyond what is permissible in a decent society.! am About the professionalism of the host of this broadcast is a separate conversation, but such behavior of the guests should not be allowed.
        I believe that such incidents disgrace both our media and the specific individuals involved in them. The Ukrainization of public behavior in the media is successful - and this incident testifies only to this. hi
        1. kapitan281271
          kapitan281271 31 January 2018 13: 41
          +3
          Quote: andj61
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Quote: The same Lech
          Finally, there was a real man on this scum ... Bravo Maxim ... good entirely on your side and support you.

          I support the next "meeting" with Gozman and Sytin ... I put everything on Max. yes

          And what is real in this man? recourse
          A healthy 51-year-old man piled on a 61 year old man with a lyule. None of you will say that Svanidze is much inferior in terms of physical condition to Shevchenko? And if at the place of Svanise someone was a little stronger, for example, Nikolai Valuev (I do not take my views, but physical condition), then Shevchenko would also pile him with cradles? repeat I doubt it very much. Shevchenko would have shown himself to be an eagle if he had shut up Svanidze verbally, but he chose a different method of influence. But he could, for example, simply grab the hand of Svanidze, with whom he was going to give him a slap in the face, and say that, they say, a fight is the last argument of the liberals. But Shevchenko missed this moment.
          The assault in an intellectual dispute cannot be an argument - from the word "absolutely"!
          I deeply do not accept Svanidze’s views, I’m just disgusted by his behavior on this air, but to beat him for his publicly expressed views is too much! I share the views of Shevchenko, but his behavior in this case is beyond what is permissible in a decent society.! am About the professionalism of the host of this broadcast is a separate conversation, but such behavior of the guests should not be allowed.
          I believe that such incidents disgrace both our media and the specific individuals involved in them. The Ukrainization of public behavior in the media is successful - and this incident testifies only to this. hi

          I completely agree with you, and thank God that there are people like you, otherwise reading komenty, somehow, it has become very sad. It would seem that all men here are real, but the impression is that we are quietly losing our minds. Well, a scoundrel, well, a scoundrel, everything is clear, but it’s older and much weaker. Grab your hand and back in the chair, and even corrected his glasses, then he himself would not have become at the same level with him and a moral victory of 100%. On the other hand, these guys are from the lib. the parties are completely rude, I’m afraid they will soon be beaten constantly ............ you and I are in the minority.
    3. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 31 January 2018 09: 16
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      .bravo Maxim ... good is entirely on your side and support you.

      It is a pity the drummer is not "set" ...
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    1. Same lech
      Same lech 31 January 2018 06: 38
      +8
      To call intellectuals somehow the language does not turn.

      The intelligentsia of the modern style of SWANIDZE type ... nonsense ... we have no normal intelligentsia in RUSSIA.
      When you read their pearls, you want to spit in their faces for the rot that they spread around with a stink ... dismiss such an intelligentsia.
      The Komsomol member generally turned into an informational garbage dump ... you read its editorials and think they have an editor with a toilet on his head composing this ...
      How to kill the Crimea: pointless and merciless


      “Russia was having fun, and first-grader Darina was killed”

      Putin has promised to clean up even “expensive and close”, if it interferes

      belay
      1. Romulus
        Romulus 31 January 2018 06: 42
        11
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I want to spit in their faces for the rot that they stink around.

        The intellectual forces of the workers and peasants are growing and gaining strength in the struggle for the overthrow of the bourgeoisie and its accomplices, intellectuals, lackeys of capital, imagining themselves to be the brains of the nation. In fact, this is not the brain, but r ... V.I. Lenin
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 07: 16
        10
        Alex, hi !!!!
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        The Komsomol member generally turned into an informational garbage dump ... you read its editorials and think they have an editor with a toilet on his head composing this ...
        I remember what “Komsomolskaya Pravda” was at the end of the 70's - the beginning of the 80's .... Although I had come out of the Komsomol age by that time, I wrote and read from orders to the print run and the address of the printing house. And now .... A friend and ally of "Yehu Masskva" ... Yesterday, someone at Solovyov said that Chubais performed at "Yehu". Solovyov famously inserted like "where else can he play?" ....
        And remember the “Arguments” - there were 18 or 20 millions (!) Of circulation! And now? Rumors from the yellow press are being reprinted, fortune-tellers and "Goods by mail" advertise ....
      3. Moore
        Moore 31 January 2018 09: 17
        +5
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        The Komsomol member generally turned into an informational garbage dump ... you read its editorials and think they have an editor with a toilet on his head composing this ...

        Actually, the topic of the debate, exactly how the journalists from the KP called it - such as whether the disease is Stalinism - is itself a provocation. Which was successful, despite the almost sincere clucking of the host about the need to behave decently in the walls of such a respectable studio ...
  4. Theodore
    Theodore 31 January 2018 06: 36
    +2
    Circumcision him had to do parkanidze! For the most I can not!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 31 January 2018 08: 37
      +5
      Quote: Theodore
      Circumcision him had to do parkanidze

      Svanidze and so circumcised. Take an interest in his real nationality, because he only has a Georgian last name. wink
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 31 January 2018 10: 27
        +2
        C'mon, the surname in his history is, so to speak, famous ...

        Do you want Hochma? Question to experts: A relative of which of the statesmen of the Soviet era is this Svanidze? In the evening, unsubscribe on this topic.
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 31 January 2018 12: 02
          +3
          Quote: alexmach
          Do you want Hochma? Question to experts: A relative of which of the statesmen of the Soviet era is this Svanidze?

          No need to unsubscribe in the evening if you wanted to record him in Stalin’s relatives.


          Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze was born on April 2, 1955 in Moscow. The family was related to Stalin: Nikolai is the grandson of Alexander Semenovich Svanidze, brother of Stalin's first wife. This is not a kinship, but a property

          His grandfather had a sister, and were underpowered, no kinship!
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 2 February 2018 00: 51
            0
            I will unsubscribe.
            First of all, this is your community. It’s not a blood relationship, but it’s a relationship, unless you are an Estonian. Secondly, this first wife was still the mother of his eldest son. What does the "underperformed" still not understandable.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 31 January 2018 06: 38
    +9
    in the studio of Komsomolskaya Pravda.

    In this dump, what happened was to happen.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 31 January 2018 17: 06
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      in the studio of Komsomolskaya Pravda.

      In this dump, what happened was to happen.

      So they are both there on a "salary" laughing
  6. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 31 January 2018 06: 46
    +2
    History should be known and remembered, drawing conclusions, and not redoing.
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 31 January 2018 06: 47
    14
    The host of the program is no less guilty, for its provocative wording at the beginning of the discussion was a catalyst for subsequent events! Lead need to be fired! And let Svanidze rejoice that he didn’t drop in Shevchenko’s feet a couple of times, he didn’t “deserve” it!
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 07: 22
      15
      Quote: Herkulesich
      And let Svanidze rejoice that he didn’t drop in Shevchenko’s feet a couple of times, he didn’t “deserve” it!

      He deserved to deserve it, only a patient in a psychiatric hospital can never prove that he is sick. For him, everyone around is sick, but he is one mentally normal. Medical fact.
      So it is with the liberals - you can never prove anything to them. They don’t hear you, they only listen to themselves. And I have not seen intolerance towards other people's opinions stronger than that of the most liberal liberals.
      They, the liberals, are not needed. Hang on poles ... There is something ...
      1. Cetron
        Cetron 31 January 2018 16: 37
        +3
        You don’t have to hurry to hang up! It will always be in time, it is necessary, as in STALIN, to the construction of the national economy.
        "Rotten intellectuals" Belomor channel was built, the forest fell, the roads were built. At least some good for the country.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 16: 42
          +7
          Quote: Cetron
          "Rotten intellectuals" Belomor channel was built, the forest fell, the roads were built. At least some good for the country.

          A little higher I talked about Vladimirka, Siberia and roads ... good
  8. samarin1969
    samarin1969 31 January 2018 06: 53
    +6
    Mutopiar! ... Two people exchanged facts from the school textbook, then portrayed "conflict." ... The cynical dance of showmen in memory of the War. am
  9. oracul
    oracul 31 January 2018 07: 01
    +5
    Bastards just deserve it. It is disgusting for those who stubbornly give this “pseudo-history” airtime on TV and radio, despite the deafening failures, for example, at the “trial of history”. And this is clearly someone oriented policy.
  10. Ushly_bashkort
    Ushly_bashkort 31 January 2018 07: 03
    16
    I should have been in Shevchenko’s place !!!
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 31 January 2018 07: 22
      +4
      Wake up! hi Everything happens in our life! !!
    2. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 31 January 2018 07: 26
      13
      Yes, the line would be lined up as a deficit, perhaps by appointment. smile
    3. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 31 January 2018 08: 14
      +5
      Quote: Ushly_bashkort
      I should have been in Shevchenko’s place !!!

      And in place of Svanidze - Chubais.
      1. Ushly_bashkort
        Ushly_bashkort 31 January 2018 08: 26
        +4
        Lord! Let me kick him! ©
    4. Radikal
      Radikal 31 January 2018 12: 02
      +2
      Quote: Ushly_bashkort
      I should have been in Shevchenko’s place !!!

      good
  11. Observer2014
    Observer2014 31 January 2018 07: 05
    12
    And what. I liked it. Maxim in response punched this Svanidze. And he did the right thing. How much can this country be blamed for from Svanidze
    Named in honor of the grandfather - party leader of the CPSU (b) Nikolai Samsonovich Svanidze [11], a distant relative of the first wife of Joseph Stalin - E. S. Svanidze. Nikolai Svanidze’s paternal grandmother, Tsilya Isaakovna Luskina, was a member of the Bolshevik party since 1916 and worked in the women's department [12] [13]. According to Nikolai Svanidze, she hated Stalin [12] [14]. The mother of Nikolai Svanidze is A. A. Svanidze [15].
    laughing What is there to talk about? Well done Maxim good
  12. Vard
    Vard 31 January 2018 07: 10
    +3
    Here it is the true face of our liberal intelligentsia ... Svanidze ... A typical representative ... Small horned male ...
    1. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 31 January 2018 09: 27
      +2
      Why horned? He is hoofed-Svinidze laughing
  13. cedar
    cedar 31 January 2018 07: 15
    +7
    Svanidze hutspu fully included for this from Maxim and received.
  14. Million
    Million 31 January 2018 07: 16
    +2
    The usual show of our TV Zhirinovsky there was clearly not enough
  15. Odysseus
    Odysseus 31 January 2018 07: 18
    +7
    Maxim Shevchenko will now become a national hero
    And again, "damned Stalin" reached out to the liberals smile
  16. dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 31 January 2018 07: 20
    +5
    To call Svinidze "master" is a bust. Received a little., Now the stink will be ...
  17. KOH
    KOH 31 January 2018 07: 20
    +8
    Shevchenko gave him a little, it’s necessary that he don’t rise ...
  18. RussianUzbek
    RussianUzbek 31 January 2018 07: 22
    +3
    Pushed))) classic ...
  19. Fox
    Fox 31 January 2018 07: 25
    +3
    Max needs a good trainer, put a blow, but it’s rather weak.
  20. Andrey NM
    Andrey NM 31 January 2018 07: 48
    11
    Karlovich had a fight with Leonarditch. And now this thing on the radio sucks Rudolfich. And they are all Russian patriots ...
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 31 January 2018 07: 52
      14
      Quote: Andrey NM
      Karlovich ... with Leonarditch

      Did Karl steal dollars from Clara? laughing
    2. Captain45
      Captain45 31 January 2018 14: 28
      +4
      Quote: Andrey NM
      Karlovich had a fight with Leonarditch. And now this thing on the radio sucks Rudolfich. And they are all Russian patriots ...

      "Here I like our political talk shows: several Jews from different countries will gather, diluted with a couple of Armenians, and let's worry about the fate of the Russian people."(c) from the Internet laughing
  21. Simon
    Simon 31 January 2018 07: 57
    +8
    The story must be true! Maxim Shevchenko I support! good Svanidze is a purely liberal friend of Nemtsov, Gorbachev and Navalny. He appeals to invented facts that are unknown from where he took, or maybe even invented. Svanidze you fool
  22. stivev
    stivev 31 January 2018 08: 05
    11
    Many thanks to Maxim from me personally. A dream come true
  23. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 31 January 2018 08: 24
    +1
    As shown by the practice of radio, Russian intellectuals
    Yes, we do not have intellectuals (with a few exceptions). Two educators boasted, one imposed on the other as the other arguments ended.
  24. LeonidL
    LeonidL 31 January 2018 08: 27
    +7
    Svanidze received a well-deserved long time ago! A pleasant sight, the long-awaited! Much more interesting than his writing and filmets ...
  25. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 31 January 2018 08: 30
    +1
    Both experts are still.
  26. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 31 January 2018 08: 34
    +2
    I would give them axes for the entourage. Two talking heads would be less wassat
    But seriously, one is 51, and the second is 62 years old. DB (s) Lavrov
  27. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 31 January 2018 08: 47
    +4
    Well, what? Hailing a hundredfold. It’s a pity I didn’t have time with my feet.
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 31 January 2018 09: 07
      +2
      I regret that Maxim did not have a pipe cut or piece of reinforcement
  28. alkor
    alkor 31 January 2018 09: 06
    +1
    That is the whole of today's Russia. In the mess. In disrespect to each other. In the absence of an understanding of history as verified events, rather than a political order. The decomposition of the culture of society and the so-called intelligentsia.
  29. Dormidont
    Dormidont 31 January 2018 09: 06
    +6
    The ten-year dream come true of two hundred million Russians scattered around the world thanks to the meanness of such Karlovich
  30. awg75
    awg75 31 January 2018 09: 06
    +6
    How rightly Svanidze. Shevchenko well done. To collect all this liberal trash and kick them to the border out of Russia.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 31 January 2018 09: 34
      +1
      To collect all this liberal trash and kick them to the border out of Russia.
      what bothers you? The Americans have done all the work for you, the lists have been prepared ...
  31. Kerensky
    Kerensky 31 January 2018 09: 09
    +2
    But I carefully looked at the side of Svanidze. Not for his conversation, no ... They just didn’t really give anything to him. Shevchenko is a hamlo, in this case. Well, it’s clear that setting for the rating ... But somehow everything is miserable .. Volfovich at least pulled out a volyn ...
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 31 January 2018 13: 06
      +8
      Well, pity the wolf hare. Liberals have long been quoting Svanidze on every corner, but you: have not listened. You are a decent person, and These are all conceivable facets that have long stepped over. hi
  32. Gardamir
    Gardamir 31 January 2018 09: 14
    +1
    By the way, symbolic. Does anyone know who Shevchenko supports in the elections and who is the boss of Svanidze?
    1. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 31 January 2018 09: 31
      +1
      And in the elections he plans to support Grudinin. In any case, he spoke in an interview with him.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 31 January 2018 09: 32
        +1
        plans to
        not just planning, already actively supporting.
    2. Captain45
      Captain45 31 January 2018 14: 33
      +2
      Quote: Gardamir
      Does anyone know who in the elections supports Shevchenko

      From the Left Front calls for Grudinin fool . But what do the Left Front and the capitalist-rentier-farmer Grudinin have in common with the views on property and distribution? request what Please do not further develop the pre-election discussion. The topic of the article is different, but I just answered the question.
  33. q75agent
    q75agent 31 January 2018 09: 55
    +3
    Quote: vlad66
    And Shevchenko’s class, he had been asking for a long time for Svinidze, was finally interrogated. Oh, sorry on the one hand, it’s not me who drove him in, but, on the other hand, also to sit then for some shit.

    Feel free to beat, but not more than 2 hits, there will be an article of beatings, a maximum fine, the main thing is that the damage to health be easy wink
    1. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 31 January 2018 10: 18
      +2
      Quote: q75agent
      Feel free to beat, but not more than 2 hits, there will be an article of beatings, a maximum fine, the main thing is that the damage to health be easy

      And they will sew anti-Semitism with incitement ... Already screams have begun that "our Judas" has been knocked and dropped. Now I’m traveling by car, I’m switching the radio, at many stations this situation is being turned over as a manifestation of anti-Semitism.
      1. nikolaev
        nikolaev 31 January 2018 11: 47
        +1
        right now they will call, like Stalin, a bloody dictator
  34. fighter angel
    fighter angel 31 January 2018 09: 58
    +4
    Maxim is a man! I respect and support! It's time to put this liber-trash in place! Let him bring down pindo-mattress with his "hysterical chronicles" ...
  35. q75agent
    q75agent 31 January 2018 10: 09
    +3
    I looked at yoytube for more than 1000000 views, and even comments ...., there is no censorship as in VO-people expressed from the heart that they think about this "intelligent" librarianship, they would still sniff out Gozman amuel and Sytin winked
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 31 January 2018 14: 35
      +2
      Quote: q75agent
      still would snout gozman amuel and sytin to align winked

      It has long been itchy hands and will certainly beat with a stick so as not to get dirty.
  36. nikolaev
    nikolaev 31 January 2018 10: 09
    +4
    Ah, well done, what a Shevchenko! Here I am pleased! He gave the bastard deservedly - and no complaints! The bastard asked for it! (I returned the word "bastard" to Svanidze - he used it twice in relation to Shevchenko, therefore it is applicable twice to Svanidze). The host’s behavior is surprising: I wouldn’t have seen where it started and how such a joyful event happened for all of us, then it would be possible to understand why she blamed both, although Svanidze was to blame. And, finally, one cannot but thank Svanidze himself for the joy that was brought to us!
    1. nikolaev
      nikolaev 31 January 2018 10: 14
      +4
      The controversy, of course, is more important. And in it Shevchenko was at his best, Svanidze, like a pig, was digging around in the roots of an oak tree
  37. faiver
    faiver 31 January 2018 10: 17
    +5
    although I have a mixed attitude towards Shevchenko, but here I applaud standing good bully
  38. nikolaev
    nikolaev 31 January 2018 10: 19
    +6
    The title of the article is incorrect. The essence of the event is incorrect. It would be more correct: "Svanidze, was defeated in the controversy and tried to take revenge in a boxing match, but instantly got by the cabbage soup and, thereby, was satisfied in all respects"
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 31 January 2018 11: 50
      +1
      Quote: nikolaev
      was satisfied in all respects

      That's for sure, you won’t say better! laughing good
  39. q75agent
    q75agent 31 January 2018 10: 24
    +1
    Quote: Andrey NM
    And they will sew anti-Semitism with incitement ... Already screams have begun that "our Judas" has been knocked and dropped. Now I’m traveling by car, I’m switching the radio, at many stations this situation is being turned over as a manifestation of anti-Semitism.

    And you do not listen to such stations wink don’t worry your nerves, watch the video, read the comments, there the people clearly expressed their support for Shevchenko, one comment was especially liked - the person writes, only one complaint - he crashed a little !!! laughing
  40. Dashout
    Dashout 31 January 2018 10: 25
    +4
    This ideological traitor (Svanidze) had to be beaten in the face for a long time ... !!! The demon is natural ..
  41. Tatanka Yotanka
    Tatanka Yotanka 31 January 2018 10: 31
    +9
    sitting, swearing, figuring out
    The essence of historical things
    Suddenly received Svanidze Karlych
    From Leonardych-bream
    fellow
  42. Alex_59
    Alex_59 31 January 2018 10: 37
    +4
    Finally! Shevchenko shake my hand tightly!
  43. mac789
    mac789 31 January 2018 10: 40
    +1
    Two Jedi Ramsey Ramsey, but not Ramsey. And breeding of them so-so ... Mediocre.
  44. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 31 January 2018 11: 14
    +2
    Vonidze lost both dispute and sparring
    once again proved that no historian screwed up with figures and facts, and pulled into a puddle with a quote from Churchill
  45. sad1940
    sad1940 31 January 2018 11: 19
    +3
    Yes, both goats ... are decent. But if Shevchenko is a big mess who couldn’t decide which beach to join, then this svinidze is a complete bastard, a true “enemy of the people”, spitting constantly on that country, due to the work of which he lives and lives comfortably, receiving at the same time those 33 pieces of silver, with which they pay his "work" sidekick from behind a hillock, ordering him "music" and which he joyfully performs wherever he manages to get to the microphone or camera. So I got the case, it's time
  46. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 31 January 2018 11: 38
    0
    The fight of two anti-Stalinists. One of them (Shevchenko) is smarter and is stronger than the other. For me, as a Stalinist, Svanidze is much better. He bears such nonsense that he exposes himself.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 31 January 2018 11: 56
      +1
      Well from recent
      Maxim Shevchenko: I deeply revised my view of Stalin
      In the 20th century, the Russian people created the Soviet dream. It was not Marxist, it was precisely anti-Western, based on the inclusion of tens of millions of people in the socio-historical development processes. The children of the peasants in this project could become poets, engineers, professors. My mother is the daughter of a peasant, but in 40, she received her education in Stalin, she was an engineer. My grandfather was born in a Belarusian peasant family and, knowing eight languages, ended his life as a professor at two universities. But if there was no revolution, who would it be?

      I recently told Alexander Andreyevich that, thanks to our discussions with him, I deeply revised my view of Stalin and the Stalin era. I did not understand and did not feel it, but now, having stepped over the boundary of 50 years, I understand that he was the leader who was looking for internal development resources, he did not copy Western schemes. I will certainly devote the rest of my life to the struggle for liberation from all forms of Western ideological and other occupation of my country and my people. http://maxpark.com/community/1920/content/6019088
      1. SEER
        SEER 2 February 2018 03: 19
        0
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        I recently told Alexander Andreyevich that, thanks to our discussions with him, I deeply revised my view of Stalin and the Stalin era. I did not understand and did not feel it, but now, having stepped over the boundary of 50 years, I understand that he was the leader who was looking for internal development resources, he did not copy Western schemes. I will certainly devote the rest of my life to the struggle for liberation from all forms of Western ideological and other occupation of my country and my people. http://maxpark.com/community/1920/content/6019088
        Moreover, it is very surprising that he became the confidant of Grudinin ...
  47. screw cutter
    screw cutter 31 January 2018 11: 39
    +2
    And for some reason I remembered, “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.” What am I doing? Well, why are all liberals (or almost all) Jews?
  48. nikolaev
    nikolaev 31 January 2018 11: 43
    +1
    two intellectuals were discussing an important issue. It seemed necessary to the loser in the argument to strengthen the argument, but his opponent actively objected in a mild form. As a result, everyone remained alive, healthy and satisfied, especially the audience, about which they gratefully reported to the participants in the dispute. Also in the past, Stalin, in response to the too aggressive behavior of the Trotskyists, began to object in a mild but convincing form. And now, some unscrupulous historians claim that Stalin was a bloody dictator.
  49. Radikal
    Radikal 31 January 2018 12: 11
    +3
    Quote: Cheshire
    It’s enough for the loose carcass of the old liberalist that Shevchenko moved him a couple of times.
    Finally, there was at least one adequate person who was able to answer for all the humiliation that our country, people, this American extortionist inflicted

    Perhaps you wanted to write "able to ask for all humiliation"?
    In any case, Shevchenko is ideologically very close to Svanidze. Mikheev would have been there - the carcass would not have lifted its ass, quacked while sitting.

    I agree that they did not go far from each other (Shevchenko and Svanidze) - both demagogues, both were unconvincing, and not only in this program ... Shevchenko is generally prone to ideological "throwing." In general, they stand each other, and it is very strange that Shevchenko turned out to be Grudinin's confidant. sad
    1. SEER
      SEER 2 February 2018 03: 20
      0
      Quote: Radikal

      I agree that they did not go far from each other (Shevchenko and Svanidze) - both demagogues, both were unconvincing, and not only in this program ... Shevchenko is generally prone to ideological "throwing." In general, they stand each other, and it is very strange that Shevchenko turned out to be Grudinin's confidant. sad

      for the first time I agree with you completely ...
  50. LUCKY777
    LUCKY777 31 January 2018 12: 40
    +3
    Well, Shevchenko believes in the exodus of the Jews from Egypt, they say there they were in the role of super-managers, although the name of the pharaoh whose Moses was an adviser is unknown, believes that now the role in Russia is the same that they say all the fervor of their souls on the altar of their homeland. Although, as for me, Moses was the first revolutionary pest, and at 17 they showed their snout, how many Russians were killed as a result of their revolution, and Svinidze - well, Jewish, there’s nothing to say about him, he showed his level, Stalin would have shot him , and no one would have cried, so let him scream, that means he is afraid of repeating the story and knows that in the forefront he will go to the expense.