How do American lists relate to the global lies of those in power

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The article is a logical continuation of the previously published "Why are they afraid of us and we are not?"The task of destroying Russia in any way remained with the West. Too often, the" civilized "got a brazen face from" savages from the East. "Too many of these same savages have mastered during their thousand-year history territories. Too much wealth in this area.

How do American lists relate to the global lies of those in power




The lessons that the Russians taught to all the great and not-so-great commanders were learned. And the global West gradually turned from an aggressive and cruel warrior into a big belly. A belly, for which the main thing is to consume. I want to consume, but I do not want to produce. Why, when a huge country is near, in which people live in the XIX century and for the smallest indulgence of the regime and a small piece of the European pie, they will be happy to serve this Big Belly.

The second day, the Russian media is full of materials about the next American report, more precisely, a warning about the next sanctions. Opinions of politicians, officials, journalists, ordinary people are divided dramatically. From laughter and "but we do not care" to "the West declared war on us." And it will continue for a long time. One way or another, until the election of a new president, the "media quake" will continue.

In fact, the list is just a part of a large and long-started operation by the Western secret services for the collapse of the USSR, and then Russia. Just a warning to some people that they are on a big and serious "hook." In a large enough mass mentioned in the list there are those who will really "influence the power."

The last article described in detail the differences of views on the world order, on other nations, on neighboring states. L differences that cannot be overcome as long as there is a multinational Russia. And only casually touched another side of the Russian worldview. Relations between the ruling elite and the common people.

Many years of "building capitalism" really destroyed some of the age-old Russian features of this relationship. Quite a large part of the Russians in their own skin felt the "difference in income." And the behavior of our rich buratin often causes quite negative feelings. All these banquets for hundreds of thousands of euros, cars for many millions, in which the offspring of "new Russians" kill people in accidents, watch for tens of millions on their hands ...

Speaking above about the continuation of the operation on the collapse of the USSR and Russia, we had in mind that there are several types of strikes in any such operation. Including using local personnel. Those who are bashfully called agents of influence. Those who for various reasons became the enemy of the motherland.

Many, probably, have paid attention to some increase of a negative in relation to the power today. People watch TV, people read articles and see the difference between what our propagandists are talking about and what happens to each particular person. People see global lies.

Moreover, lies somehow imperceptibly became the basis of state policy. Any regular presidential decree on the increase in wages of any category of workers is repeatedly broadcast by our media. But what happens next? And then come into effect the conditions for its implementation. And in fact, wages remain the same as they were before, or even decrease.

We are outraged by the WADA attack on our athletes, but it turns out that our officials themselves provoked this attack by inaction and betrayal of the athletes. Smile at the camera lenses and talk about the next champions well. People listen with pleasure and pride. And the fact that in a month, a year, a decade the medals will be taken away from these athletes is not important.

To be honest, it is doubtful that global lies could exist without the knowledge of the authorities. It is doubtful that the facts of this lie were not known to the government and the president. On straight lines, the questions are really hard. And specific, indicating the perpetrators and organizations that lie, distort, yule.

So what happens? Lying country need? Lies for the good of the state, and therefore for the good of the people? And everything that does not fit into this concept from the evil one? From the liberal? From the critics? Examples?

Yes please. Look at the "suddenly emerged" presidential candidate Grudinina. The fact that the Kremlin “slept through” the candidate who can really become the basis for those who do not believe in Putin (and there are a lot of such people) is a fact. As well as the fact that the persecution began.

So that you, gentlemen, on the officials from the EP were looking for compromising materials! But we will return to the officials. Here is the orgy. They tried everything about Pavel Grudinina. And words, and numbers, and facts. And still in the media proudly puffed up feathers "knowledgeable". Say, there is no way to compare Grudinin and Putin. Well, not near them at all.

Why not? Now is the election race. Media space resembles a sewer pipe, bred to the nearest river. If you stand and look at what comes up, then you can ... form an opinion on the well-being of the residents of the neighborhood.

Money Grudinina on foreign accounts? And strange names like Timchenko, Roldugin, Rothenberg and others? But they are connected with the president. On one fake there is always another. Or does our president receive such a small salary that all of her goes to life? After all, no one talks about any violations of the law. So why make the head of state a fool? Why lie?

But this, so to speak, political clashes. Lies something goes even at the usual, everyday level. We will keep silent about the famous story of a drunk boy. An alcoholic child is the norm in Russia. But it’s worth talking about the latest story from the glorious city of Petrozavodsk.

The man, the father of four children, committed suicide. The reason is commonplace. Gentlemen developers have taken away his apartment. It happens. We have hundreds, thousands of defrauded co-investors. But there is one small nuance. Developers occupy quite serious positions in one very respected party.

What happens next? It did not happen, but it happens even today. Predictable? In light of the policy of total lies completely. The theme of suicide of the father of four children began not to hush up, but to trample. And the children were not his (two), and he drank and walked, and beat his wife (that's why he divorced). In general, the standard media is disgusting. Drunk boy in all its glory. Relatives and friends, as they can, beat off, but the result of the skin climbs, so as not to leave the case under the article "bringing to suicide." And the lie is not even pouring buckets. The pools.

One gets the impression that everything is allowed in the regions before 18 March. The condition is one - no publicity, all stew immediately. And - a great turnout with the appropriate percentage of votes for Putin. And the grass does not grow. Perhaps because the authorities in the same Petrozavodsk do not strike a finger on a finger. Or maybe because the head of the legislative assembly and the EP faction in one person, and the children's ombudsman in Karelia and the head of the EP in the case.

The main thing - to stamp out the matter as far as possible. That there was silence and grace against the background of universal welfare. And after the March 18 amnesty immediately, if the results and turnout will be good. And you can continue to work quietly for the good of the country.

Still? We have already written about what is happening in the 20 th army ZVO. As captain Zolotarev addressed the commander-in-chief on the subject of theft of army property and corruption schemes in the army. The captain was tried on absolutely insane charges, and the court captain won. Someone rushed to clean up? By no means. Military investigators scour the schools and units where Zolotarev studied / served. In search of compromising. But in the most part there are no investigations.

But Zolotarev has already been accused of everything that is possible. Including some officials, and the media, joyfully standing up for the defense ... What’s the only defense, it’s not entirely clear. Apparently, to protect thieves and bandits in the form of officers of the Russian army. In approximately the same vein, there were two other things that we are now studying. One on the far North from us navy, the second again in the ZVO.

The election campaign reveals many real facts and many "facts from the media." The easiest way to ignore these facts. The wave will pass, and again there will be silence. And life will continue as it was before this political shake-up. Will it?

Let's return to the beginning of the article. To the very operation that our partners are conducting against Russia. And to the list that is being talked about.

Most readers, it seems to us, have a picture. The list really works and for a long time. The fact that it is published only now means nothing. Those for whom he is a warning, all have known for a long time. Money helps to "find out news before all. "And the result of this work is that the country has less and less trust in the authorities.

More and more often, we hear about these words: "I will vote at least for the hell of the bald, but not for those who are to blame for lawlessness." "I respect Putin for foreign policy, but for me personally he did nothing good." “I want my life to become more stable. And on the drum, our victories are somewhere over there” ...

So, maybe, stop lying not only to us, but to yourself? How many times can you step on the same rake? How many cones need to be filled in order to understand that you cannot win a lie? There is no lie for good! Unless, of course, to consider the death of a patient as a blessing, to which the doctors did not say that he is dying. And the deceased has not finished his earthly affairs for this reason.

And lying as a state policy is a direct way to self-destruction. Give up Raise your hands up and walk with your head in the "Western Paradise" as slaves? Are we Russians or were we just born in Russia?
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  1. +18
    1 February 2018 07: 21
    One thing is surprising .. when for example they lie about the same Navalny (I am not his supporter, he is not pleasant to me), then it’s normal when they lie about the captain, it’s bad. The problem is that we ourselves, including here, are talking about many authors and commentators - such as this bad, this good. And the closer to the election, the more dirt and praise pours here.

    And logically - you need to approach everyone the same way, though one. And disassemble on the shelves what and how, no matter how we relate to who they write about in the material, show in the media, etc.

    And most importantly - all this lies, the youth is very encouraged, it’s not for nothing that Navalny there is focusing on it, because they will grow .. and then the fun will begin, following the example of the events of 2014 in Ukraine. But unfortunately, current officials are too stupid, do not understand modern technology, it is easier for them to ban everything and lie further. This is very bad for Russia :(
    1. +12
      1 February 2018 08: 04
      Staver-Skomorokhov (Banshee) - five, per article. hi what to do? go to the polls. let everyone’s mind and conscience decide for whom. "Maidan" I do not want, but the current state of affairs is a quagmire. Tsoi did not sing about the "changes" at the right time, not then they were needed.
      1. +4
        1 February 2018 09: 57
        Andrei Yurievich, and you vote for Pavel Grudinin, and the remaining g ... but reject.
        1. +1
          5 February 2018 13: 14
          Sorry, dear, that is not the topic .. but people should know.
          Now they’ll remove me for such a comment, but I’m most likely not the first and only one who will do the site administration (for me, losing respect for the advertisements of the same Alfa Bank (well, for whom it’s a “war”, but someone and the benefits are not against fucking), and the warnings given out with or without complaints and complaints, not even understanding the composition of the violation). In the past, many good and competent people have been deleted. It's a pity.
          There is here on the forum such a very mediocre “personality”, the ugly self-called “Golovan Jack”, is highlighted in yellow, with an avatar in the form of a dog, in the past (yes, and in the present most likely) it is very blurred, judging by his comments, it asserts itself here on forum, and even the city of residence is afraid to indicate.
          He writes about himself: "I do not believe in God, I do not believe in the government, I do not believe in anyone. I believe only in my own strength." Well, that’s clear ... offended.
          A lover of complaining ...
          Keep in mind if anyone else has not encountered him. This is such, such!

          Let me say thanks to like-minded people, to express respect to worthy opponents ...
          Good luck!
    2. +3
      1 February 2018 08: 05
      Quote: Bad
      when for example lie about the same Navalny

      I wonder what lies?
      I do not want to argue or argue, just interesting)
      1. +8
        1 February 2018 09: 16
        Who is interested in the “election” in Russia? If you don’t vote at the end, the uncle will come out and say: “such and such a candidate won with such and such percentages” —and the whole thing is done. Let the other candidates then go to the courts, prove something there ...- everything, "the train has left." In Russia, the proverb acts like nowhere: "After a fight, they don’t wave their fists" .... Say, this can not be? How could it be, in 1996, they did this to Zu, he is poor, then he went to court, proving that he won the election and proved .... a few years later .... he’s still smearing tears and snot on this occasion.....
        1. +6
          1 February 2018 11: 52
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          How not to vote at the end will come uncle and say

          Idiotic conclusion. Now there will be so many monitoring observers at the polling stations that ... But Putin’s victory is really a foregone conclusion. Popularity does not fall.
          Now we need to talk about the next real candidate. So as not to repeat the 2000-th. Can not lead the second time ...
          1. +2
            4 February 2018 19: 05
            Quote: domokl
            Putin's victory is really a foregone conclusion

            Than?! By whom?! When?!
            1. 0
              5 February 2018 20: 40
              Quote: Strategia
              Than?! By whom?! When?!

              The people of Russia!
          2. +1
            5 February 2018 16: 57
            Now we need to talk about the next real candidate.

            Well, that is, do you still hope to influence the GDP so that he takes Grudinin to himself and maybe make him a successor?
          3. 0
            7 February 2018 10: 15
            That's right. I know a person who calls himself a kitchen opponent of Putin and at the same time goes to the polls as an observer. In his words, the numbers plus / minus converge.
      2. 0
        1 February 2018 09: 17
        C'mon, if you delve more thoroughly, there’s anything about anyone, that they lie or make “accusations” without clear evidence.
        The significance of this, the assessment is subjective, but there are facts.
      3. +2
        1 February 2018 09: 50
        They lie about Navalny about everything. You read a clown, a clown. Somehow he spoke in Novosib, I naturally did not go to this coven, but I listened to some theses of the speech on the emitter, he says in an elaborate, thoughtful, obviously not such a clown as they draw him.
    3. +6
      1 February 2018 09: 47
      Yes, no big politics, honest people. It's just that if Grudinin has a stigma in the cannon, then Putin has tons of glass wool in tons. About the same Navalny, I can say one thing, everyone fools him, even for the fact that he has fat, because everyone knows politics you can’t be fat (only to Volfich).
    4. +2
      1 February 2018 10: 37
      Criticize Lze ... They all lie! each swamp has its own TRUTH! The system is like that!
      Let's go further ... but where ... ???
      Yesterday there was an article "RUSSIA'S GROWTH RATES UNDER PUTIN CHINESE CHINESE" with numbers. Written in the CIA digits ..
      http://www.iarex.ru/news/55449.html
      "GDP 1999-2016
      The economic growth of the country under Putin is 3,862x100 / 0,6203 = 622,6%
      Economic growth in China 21,29 x 100 / 4,8 = 443,54%

      PPS 1999-2016
      The purchasing power parity per capita in Russia grew 26,9x100 / 4,2 = 640,5%
      Per capita purchasing power parity in China grew 15,4 x 100 / 3,8 = 405,3%

      640/405 = Russia is growing 58% faster than China.

      Everyone so quickly gets used to the good that they forget, in 1999 the Russians lived just like the Chinese.

      Xi Jinping and Hu Jintao always nervously smoke looking at Putin ""
      Continue to DOWNLOAD in the 90s. Are you bored?
      1. +4
        1 February 2018 10: 59
        Xi Jinping and Hu Jintao always nervously smoke looking at Putin ""


        "Smoked, smoked" and "decided" .... wink Bo did not keep up with the "growth rate" .... laughing
        https://stockinfocus.ru/2018/01/31/kitaj-otverg-t
        orgovlyu-s-rossiej-za-rubli /? utm_source = finobzor.
        ru
      2. +9
        1 February 2018 13: 07
        Quote: To be or not to be
        Criticize Lze ... They all lie! each swamp has its own TRUTH! The system is like that!
        Let's go further ... but where ... ???
        Yesterday there was an article "RUSSIA'S GROWTH RATES UNDER PUTIN CHINESE CHINESE" with numbers. Written in the CIA digits ..
        http://www.iarex.ru/news/55449.html
        "GDP 1999-2016
        The economic growth of the country under Putin is 3,862x100 / 0,6203 = 622,6%
        Economic growth in China 21,29 x 100 / 4,8 = 443,54%

        Ciphers are such a thing that it’s very easy to manipulate them, what Rosstat regularly uses. Look, you have one boat built in one year, and the next two boats, so your growth is 100% solid yes? And a certain Mio Dinh built 100 boats in the first year, and 110 boats the next year, he has a growth of only 10% about how, loshara is only 10% growth, you have 100% growth, your numbers are much more beautiful, but in fact you built 108 ships less than him.
        1. 0
          1 February 2018 20: 59
          It turns out on 207 boats.
    5. +6
      1 February 2018 10: 50
      Quote: Bad
      And most importantly - all this is a lie, it spurs youth very much,

      I recently asked young people, will you go to the polls? "No" - they answer, "our opinion does not interest anyone, anyway, who knows will win." Among young people is the daughter of the chairman of the PEC.
  2. +12
    1 February 2018 07: 53
    They have such a job .. every six years to think about the people ...)) and every six years to organize centers for the reception of citizens, to rush under the excavators, to make a beautiful picture of communication with ordinary people .. and a wave will pass, quietly cut the loot on the good of oneself loved ones .... "the people have no bread? Let them eat cakes ..." (a lady who did not finish well)).
    1. 0
      1 February 2018 07: 59
      Quote: Ded Talash
      "the people have no bread? Let them eat cakes ..." (a lady who did not finish well)).

      Again a mistake. It was not her.
      You probably remember that school history lesson as if it were yesterday. 1789 year. The French Revolution is in full swing. The Parisian poor riots because the people have no bread, and Queen Marie Antoinette - insensitively indifferent, trying to make a joke or just out of natural stupidity - finds nothing better than suggesting that they eat cakes instead of bread.
      Problem number one is that it was not cakes, but brioches (the original French text sounds like this: Qu'ils mangentde la brioche). According to Alan Davidson and his Oxford Cooking Guide, “brioche in the 18th century was just a slightly enriched (due to the modest amount of butter and eggs) bun, which in fact did not go far from good white bread.” So the Queen’s proposal can be considered an attempt to do a good deed: they say, if the people want bread, give them what is better.
      And everything would be fine, only Marie Antoinette didn’t say anything like that. The phrase has been active in print since the year 1760 — to illustrate the decay of the aristocracy. And Jean-Jacques Rousseau generally claimed that he had heard it in 1740.
      The last of Marie Antoinette’s biographers, Lady Anthony Fraser, attributes this statement to a completely different queen — Maria Theresa, the wife of Louis XIV, “The Sun King” - although in reality anyone could say it: the eighteenth century did not lack the noble ladies . It is also possible that the famous phrase was generally coined for propaganda purposes.
      Another story is known, according to which it was Marie Antoinette who introduced France to the croissants allegedly brought from her native Vienna. To us, this myth also seems unlikely, since the first mention of croissants in France refers only to the 1853 year.
      Interestingly, at about the same time, wandering Austrian pastry chefs brought the puff pastry recipe to Denmark. Since then, the famous "Danish buns" are known in this country as wienerbrod ("Viennese bread").
      In Vienna they are called Kopenhagener (That is, the "Copenhagen" (German).).
      1. +5
        1 February 2018 08: 51
        Again a mistake. It was not her.
        that is, what you pulled from Google-truth? no, it's just that you can use the keyboard. hi
        1. +1
          1 February 2018 09: 02
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          that is, what you pulled from Google-truth?

          I can write again with pens that the words attributed to Marie Antoinette are a historical myth, firmly entrenched in the minds of those who do not know how to use Google hi
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          it's just that you can use the keyboard

          Exactly good
          1. FID
            +4
            1 February 2018 09: 29
            And where is the "piss" -? Well, not Marie Antoinette said this, then who? Does Gugel say nothing about this?
  3. +11
    1 February 2018 07: 59
    It seems to me that the West is not profitable to ruin Russia, it is not known who will control the nuclear weapons. The West is very happy with Putin’s candidacy, and nuclear weapons are under control, and the country is under control, and we are selling resources, and our markets are open (not competitors). What more could you want?
    1. +1
      1 February 2018 08: 09
      Are we absolutely sure that the West is one in its Wishlist?
      When there is something that, as it can be divided, there will always be the most willing! They will repel others who want no less.
      The nuance is that we have no less wanting and pushing ... with a caliber we can have less, but no less aggressive, and even closer to the object of desire!
      In short, the usual such fuss / bickering in which, alas, we are not outside observers, but direct victims!
    2. +4
      1 February 2018 09: 02
      Quote: Bastinda
      It seems to me that the West is not profitable to ruin Russia, it is not known who will control the nuclear weapons. The West is very happy with Putin’s candidacy, and nuclear weapons are under control, and the country is under control, and we are selling resources, and our markets are open (not competitors). What more could you want?

      there is a rational "grain", indeed, in the crisis of the 90s, when it seemed, take the Country with your bare hands, the button-factor from whom remained unclear? what the Yankees were in the “Achtung”, it seemed that victory was there, and at the same time, “Satan” was somewhere, but what if a “Patriotic Warrant Officer” appears near the “Button”?
    3. +4
      1 February 2018 11: 22
      The West will suit any candidate. Neither Grudinin nor anyone else will change anything. The system is made wisely. Grudinin is simply from the same clip as the current guarantor, and if suddenly (it is not clear how) the real person who wants to reanimate Russia pops up, either he will be beaten up or the sanctions will become so severe that we will have to “choose” Navalny ourselves.
      when it seemed, take it with your bare hands
      No. Then everything could be rolled back very quickly. It's not possible now.
      1. +2
        4 February 2018 19: 13
        At one time, the West applied sanctions to young Soviet Russia - built the "Iron Curtain", in which he blamed us. However, we did not select the “bulk" one, but we did industrialization, won the war, rebuilt the country from ruins and were the first to go into space. The main thing is that the helmsman in the knees should not be weak!
        1. +1
          5 February 2018 08: 35
          Not certainly in that way. At first there was a golden embargo - a crime in itself worthy of the Nuremberg. And then the curtain. The curtain was necessary for the West, because already in the USA there were demonstrations with socialist slogans.
          We did not choose bulk then. But how much dirt was poured on the helmsman of that time! And they continue to pour. But you have to admit that the then leadership was utterly superior to the current. It is like the leaders of the state. Not being specialists in this, having a very limited field for maneuver, doing everything for the first time.
          And now? One of the sane economists said that on profane under Putin, it was possible to carry out 3-4 Stalinist industrializations.
          1. +5
            5 February 2018 08: 38
            Quote: groks
            One of the sane economists said that on profane under Putin, it was possible to carry out 3-4 Stalinist industrializations

            Who said that? Where when?
            Indicate the specialist ... if you didn’t come up with it on the go, of course wink
            1. 0
              5 February 2018 08: 40
              If I remembered, I would call it. In search engines, if interested.
              1. +4
                5 February 2018 11: 01
                Quote: groks
                In search engines, if interested

                So there’s nothing to look for ... there is no information, purely "a sketch on ..."
  4. +5
    1 February 2018 08: 05
    Look at the "suddenly arisen" presidential candidate Grudinin.
    ... Well, what, father, are there any communists in your city? To whom and the Communist Grudinin ....
    And lying as a state policy is a direct path to self-destruction.
    ... We’re going to this ... We don’t learn from our mistakes, especially ...
    1. +5
      1 February 2018 11: 10
      Quote: parusnik
      And lying as a state policy is a direct path to self-destruction.
      ... We’re going to this ... We don’t learn from our mistakes, especially ...

      eternal lies do not happen, the truth will still break out. it would be good if our politicians and bureaucrats learned this too.
  5. +5
    1 February 2018 08: 08
    stop lying not only to us, but to yourself?

    Pure truth will triumph over time
    If you do too, what a dirty lie!

    V. Vysotsky
  6. +13
    1 February 2018 08: 15
    "... Many probably drew attention to a slight increase in negative attitude towards the authorities today. People watch TV, people read articles and see the difference between what our propagandists are talking about and what happens to each specific person. People see global lies.
    Moreover, the lies somehow quietly turned into the basis of state policy. Any regular presidential decree about the increase in wages of any category of workers is repeatedly broadcast by our media. But what happens then? And then the conditions for its implementation come into effect. And in fact, wages remain the same as they were before, or even decrease.
    We are outraged by the WADA attack on our athletes, but it turns out that our officials they themselves provoked this attack by the inaction and betrayal of athletes. It’s good to smile at the cameras and talk about the next champions. People listen with pleasure and pride. And the fact that in a month, year, decade, the medals will be taken away from these athletes is not important.
    To be honest, It is doubtful that global lies could exist without the knowledge of the authorities. It is doubtful that the facts of this lie were not known to the government and the president. On straight lines, questions are really asked tough. And specific, indicating the culprits and organizations that lie, distort, bustle ... "


    Authors are always true to themselves. They cannot help but kick Putin ... He promised them a doubling of his salary in his decree, and in return he sent again ...
    But they know very well that Putin’s decrees are not a decree for “our” officials of “our” state. They are NOT OBLIGATED to fulfill them. Because, as they know, the President under "our" Constitution is not power, but only a guarantor of compliance by all branches of government of this very Constitution. That is why he does not have the right to strictly ask for non-compliance with his decrees. Moreover, according to "our" Constitution, he begins, as many people dream, to persecute officials of the colonial administration, he shines with criminality for seizing power, or at least impeachment. This is clearly spelled out in "our" Constitution, which the guarantor must be the first to observe and fulfill.
    In fact, “our” government is a colonial administration set up by Washington after the victory over the USSR in the twentieth. The Kremlin list is Washington’s command “To the Foot” and Serve. ”In another way, the conquerors do not speak with the conquered.
    The authors are well aware of this, but they bustle and stubbornly taxi out to Grudinin, a protege of Washington, who has presented us with his own Constitution, which has swaddled our hands and feet, which Putin can change, and Grudinin never.
    Look at the root, dear. US intelligence agencies not only compile lists of potential agents and traitors in Russia, but they really have their own agents and traitors here and this kodla acts on the collapse and destruction of Russia and the people, but the authors kept silent about this ...
    1. +5
      1 February 2018 10: 42
      Quote: cedar
      Because, as they know, the President under "our" Constitution is not power, but only a guarantor of compliance by all branches of government of this very Constitution. That is why he does not have the right to strictly ask for non-compliance with his decrees. Moreover, according to "our" Constitution, he begins, as many people dream, to persecute officials of the colonial administration, he shines with criminality for seizing power, or at least impeachment. This is clearly spelled out in "our" Constitution, which the guarantor must be the first to observe and fulfill.

      I do not understand you. If the President of the Russian Federation is a "doll", then why is he holding on to power like that? Indeed, according to your logic, he cannot even expel a minister?
      1. KAV
        +3
        1 February 2018 19: 34
        Quote: Overlock
        I do not understand you. If the President of the Russian Federation is a "doll", then why is he holding on to power like that? Indeed, according to your logic, he cannot even expel a minister?

        That's it. You do not understand not only Cedar, but also the basic principles of Russian legislation. And this is very sad ... And, what can we say about the strategic plans of the President ...
        1. +1
          1 February 2018 21: 02
          Quote: KAV
          And what can we say about the strategic plans of the President

          because I am the one who is
    2. +7
      1 February 2018 10: 46
      Quote: cedar
      Look at the root, dear. US intelligence agencies not only compile lists of potential agents and traitors in Russia, but they really have their own agents and traitors here and this kodla acts on the collapse and destruction of Russia and the people, but the authors kept silent about this ...

      CIA agents are looking for their prey among those who own money, because they understand that now in most cases money can only be stolen. Among ordinary people, agents can be among the poor. Who on average is enough, why the heck is it necessary.
      So it turns out that the government’s policy itself increases the field for CIA agents — the gap between the poor and the rich in Russia has grown significantly.
      I believe that it’s still easier to search for agents on Okhotny Ryad. We do not work there
    3. 0
      1 February 2018 11: 11
      But they know very well that Putin’s decrees are not a decree for “our” officials of “our” state. They are NOT OBLIGATED to fulfill them. Because, as they know, the President under "our" Constitution is not power, but only a guarantor of compliance by all branches of government of this very Constitution.
      - here I agree with Cedar.
    4. +6
      1 February 2018 11: 14
      I here for one such "connoisseur of the constitution" printed from this very Constitution about the powers of the president. Read at your leisure before writing. And if the head cannot force his subordinates to carry out their orders, then he must be driven out of this position, as professional unsuitability.
  7. +3
    1 February 2018 08: 19
    Good post. Everything is correctly said, what is said, with a few exceptions.

    I can not agree with this expression
    Raise your hands up and step with a dumb head into the "western paradise" as slaves?

    The overwhelming majority of the population has already achieved for themselves “the rights of slaves,” and he doesn’t have to go anywhere; you can also exercise these rights acquired at the expense of your own stupidity, cowardice and gullibility, to which the total lie of the authorities “as a state policy” contributes.

    But it only helps to separate the lie from the truth, not to believe lies and not even be a coward to oneself - it depends only on the citizen himself.
  8. +14
    1 February 2018 08: 31
    The article is brilliant. Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. 18 years He is in power and every year it’s harder for ordinary people to live. Only His friends and associates become better and more fun. The real successes in industry and the economy, for lack of such, are massively replaced by state PR, meaningless and merciless. He is constantly on the TV screen, He gives instructions, Ministers - capitalists report to Him, without Him - war and the end of civilization. Guys, this is stagnation. Even with late Brezhnev, there was less cod and squeals about the greatness of the Leader. The top does not want change, it needs Him, as a guarantor of the integrity of the stolen. People are waiting for changes, hence the instant popularity of the previously unknown Pavel Grudinin, who offers the concept of a powerful power as a social state. I read the program of leftist forces "20 steps" and noted that it has everything that the people have been waiting for from Him for 18 years. And he didn’t wait ... He is great, He really saved Russia as a single state, He returned the Crimea. But, as time goes on, irremovable power becomes dangerous for society. Moreover, when its legitimacy is implicated in the floods of lies, hypocrisy and licking the anus to a mirror shine.
    1. +7
      1 February 2018 09: 21
      When I listen to another “noodles”, such as “May orders” and then read the sweet howls about this “patriotic part of the population”, for some reason, always, I remember Schnur and his “Leningrad”: “... our people love Anything ..... "....
    2. FID
      +7
      1 February 2018 09: 37
      Quote: DARK
      but in the eye. 18 years old He is in power

      I apologize, but where was he at EBN ??? Not in power? And where was Sobchak ???
      1. +2
        1 February 2018 09: 51
        Dear SSI, I have used the word power here in the highest sense: Prime Minister. Still, it is difficult to influence the country's politics as deputy mayor of St. Petersburg, and the head of the FSB under the EBN was still imprisoned for professional activities.
        1. FID
          +3
          1 February 2018 10: 35
          Well, probably ... But anyway, I was with the information where what and how ....
    3. +3
      1 February 2018 11: 31
      He is great

      Did someone try to take Russia away from Him? Did someone try to dismember her? Which one took part in the Crimean events? He said - well, where to go, you have to take it, otherwise it will be indecent, the rating will drop?
      1. +1
        1 February 2018 13: 21
        groks, the fact is that with the eternal drunken alkaloid, EBN went astray in a flock of Radical group of noble and influential thieves and traitors from the very top authorities, ready to surrender and sell everything. With them, the most dangerous at that time, He managed to figure it out. True, everything else from the Yeltsin period was left unchanged, only everything was done quieter, darker, without drunken antics and outright moronism. In what the persons who promoted him were satisfied, why he was sentenced to reign before his deathbed.
        1. +2
          1 February 2018 13: 31
          When there was a flock, then He was in that flock. Then natural evolution occurred - large predators gobbled up small ones and put things in order around themselves, just so that they themselves would not be touched in the park.
          The difference is that now it’s impossible to return to the state of even the 90s, when it was still possible to play. We cannot exist without the West, without selling the same gas in ever increasing quantities.
  9. +4
    1 February 2018 08: 41
    Eh, I would happily speak out about the next creation of analysts, but alas ... For my last statement on a similar topic I received a warning for trolling the data of the authors, so I will remain modestly silent laughing
    1. +4
      1 February 2018 09: 12
      Useful it!
      That's about the launch from the East did not burst, so what? The rocket has passed, the satellites are working!
      And it doesn’t matter that we just prepared more thoroughly, did real work, most importantly quietly, without noise and dust, and here it is victory!
      So the old such thought - Silence is gold - has, as it were, real reasons.
      1. +2
        1 February 2018 09: 14
        First, I do not crack, but I write and say, so watch your words.
        Secondly, not me.
        1. 0
          1 February 2018 09: 37
          Sorry of course.
          Didn’t calculate that I would literally take my “compliment” ???
          1. +1
            1 February 2018 09: 46
            Sorry, no question. I'm generally not a vindictive person. Just wicked ... and the memory is good wink
      2. +2
        1 February 2018 14: 56
        The correct prayer was chosen so that a rocket developed by atheist communists would be launched.
        1. +2
          1 February 2018 15: 16
          Is there anything to drive out demons?
          Under the previous regime they did, and demons on rockets did not take root to see, rockets did not fall!
          Under the new government, don’t understand what’s going on, newfangled “effective” managers are worse than any demons!
          1. +1
            4 February 2018 10: 24
            Well, to be completely fair, the missiles always fell. It was just that under the sworn communists it was modestly silent about this and they fell for other reasons (nobody came to mind to steal precious metals for soldering contacts). But the punishments were harsh. After the second accident, Rogozin would probably have led the collective farm somewhere beyond the Arctic Circle. and there has always been a lie in the media, because the media reflect the interests of the ruling class, as well as art.
            1. +2
              4 February 2018 12: 25
              There are no questions for the media - it was, is and will be!
              Missiles fell, exploded, people died! An indisputable fact, and as you rightly noted, it was not the loss of silver solder! And yes, negligent, high sales must. persons could go to graze bears in Chukotka !!! We believed in our country, to some extent, most of the people, we believed in the justice of the actions of the party and government !!! If something happened, we understood that there were at least insurmountable circumstances or something like that !!!
              Most importantly WE BELIEVED, there were objective reasons for this !!!
              Now do you believe in effective managers (capitalists) who rule and own almost everything in the country ??? Do you believe our government, the supreme and official lower rank ??? What do you believe - that there was an objective force majeure or that you saved, did not pay extra (bought cheaply), STORED, drank how hot it is ????
              The question of trust is also very important.
  10. +4
    1 February 2018 09: 31
    An explanatory article, especially about the work of the media and investigative agencies.
  11. +4
    1 February 2018 09: 42
    Raise your hands up and step with a dumb head into the "western paradise" as slaves?

    Well, for example, there is a difference in being a slave to the Rothschilds and Russian "responsible businessmen." The Rothschilds pay good money to their “slaves”, while the latter simply “throw” it. Can it still be a slave to the Rothschilds better than a slave to local "boyars"? wink
    1. +4
      1 February 2018 10: 26
      Sat ... lied and made laugh!
      In fact, what's the difference where to be a slave?
      1. +1
        1 February 2018 10: 44
        Here I am about that. Or in Russia do everyone consider themselves "free"? A man is always someone's "slave" .... if you already choose a "master", then it’s better to choose "more generously" ... Ukrainians are in an "eternal search" .... wink
        1. +3
          1 February 2018 11: 07
          Did not guess! However, where do you slaves think for such a thing!
          I am a man of the Land of Soviets and always will be!
          Russian "slavery" is a temporary phenomenon, we will also dismantle this, not the first time!
  12. +8
    1 February 2018 09: 56
    Quote: DARK
    Real successes in industry and the economy, for lack of such, are massively replaced by state PR

    Friends, have you noticed how the news has changed in 18 years? Almost never say that somewhere something has been done, built, launched, put into operation. Today, news from the category of “will be developed”, will be built, “will be launched” ... except for the oil and gas sector, the oil industry. Everything is very modest with the same oil refining, one plant was built in 25 years.
    1. +4
      1 February 2018 10: 08
      What for? We have foreign policy "achievements"! That’s the whole thing about them ... conversation, discussion ... we can still draw the military-industrial complex, there, too, everything seems to be boasting and seething!
      However, the successful appointment of the Minister of War allowed, the supreme, to attribute all the merits to his assets!
      However, small factories, farms are still opening up ... but this is mostly a private business! In addition, the weather was lucky, the peasants really did not lose the battle for the harvest, God bless them all with health !!!
    2. +4
      1 February 2018 10: 11
      It has long been noticed, in addition to the stubborn supporters of the site "done with us (in Russia)" ... True, for the sake of justice I must say, today there was news that several satellites were put into orbit by a rocket .... And from that time they appeared: " news-comparisons "with Ukraine (how everything is" bad "with them)," winning news "about how everyone was defeated first in Georgia, Crimea, then in Syria, and" eternal news "about" harming "the USA," lost "The EU, which is about to" understand "us, and so on. And about China, for which all" hope "....
      1. 0
        1 February 2018 11: 28
        Monster_Fat "put several satellites into orbit ...."
        11 satellites: two Russian and nine foreign launched from the "EAST" range .. hi
    3. +10
      1 February 2018 10: 38
      Quote: Galleon
      Friends, have you noticed how the news has changed in 18 years? Almost never say that somewhere something has been done, built, launched, put into operation. Today, news from the category of "will be developed," will be built, "" will be launched. "

    4. 0
      1 February 2018 12: 17
      There is such a site "Made with us" https://sdelanounas.ru/ Stop by and find out.
      1. +4
        3 February 2018 00: 04
        Not a good example about us was made. Such news like in St. Petersburg opened a factory for the production of paints and small letters that this is the Finnish company’s daughter with their equipment and materials. Or about the factory for the production of mini tractors, but in fact a Chinese screwdriver assembly with Russian inscriptions .or as we started at the Mash plant we started producing CNCs. That's just the whole production comes down to riveting a nameplate with a proud inscription made in Russia, although there is nothing more than a domestic nameplate. But the machines are really pretty good, sorry nly koreyskie.i this there are many.
  13. +2
    1 February 2018 10: 36
    And lying as a state policy is a direct path to self-destruction.
    ------------------------------------------
    The Ministry of Internal Affairs accused insurers of creating a myth about car lawyers.
    The GUEBiPK Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation in the report also claims that the leaders of insurance companies use the myth of car lawyers to justify intentional bankruptcy by withdrawing money from companies in advance (according to the department, 3-5 billion rubles are withdrawn from each company).
  14. +2
    1 February 2018 10: 50
    The authors pulled the topic of embezzlement in the army over the ears to the accusations of the current government in order to stoke Strawberry for the businessman. After all, this is a tradition that has not died since the era of developed socialism, although they laughed in jokes only at ensigns. Under Serdyukov, they say that many corruption schemes above were destroyed, which made it possible to more effectively use investments in the military-industrial complex.
    1. +2
      1 February 2018 11: 14
      As an assumption, for the former minister and the destroyed corruption schemes ... can we simply be redirected to other pockets?
      About effective use ... can we simply strengthen the control and the "guys with the guns", behind the sufferers attached?
      1. +1
        1 February 2018 11: 57
        Quote: rocket757
        Pro effective use
        If the scheme works at the level of MO-GSH-VPK, then all the controllers and the guys with the guns are enough.
        1. +2
          1 February 2018 12: 44
          Option!
          Georgia movie remembered! How wine was guarded !!! An endless chain of such lines! Security Guard - Security Guard Security Guard - ... and continue to count until the wine runs out!
          An instructive story, however.
  15. +1
    1 February 2018 12: 15
    I noticed how carefully the authors are struggling with the "facts of lies." No names, no surnames. But really - name specific individuals and you can fall under the article about slander. But after, after. And then there should be a court where the authors can finally lay out the irrefutable facts and win it! Here is the path of real fighters against the powers that be. Or am I mistaken?
    1. +4
      1 February 2018 22: 07
      Quote: Chater57
      No names, no surnames

      why ?, this is an article and not an investigation, although there are a lot of all kinds of investigations and evidence with first and last names in the media
      Quote: Chater57
      name specific individuals and you can fall under the article about slander.

      specific individuals themselves are not eager to sue, too high-profile cases will turn out
      Quote: Chater57
      And then there should be a court where the authors can finally lay out the irrefutable facts and win it!

      blessed is he who believes))), there is such a judge Novikov who proved corruption in the courts of the Southern Federal District, they put him in prison))), they released him, right now he is trying to achieve the truth, see Karaulova
      Quote: Chater57
      Or am I mistaken?

      maybe winked
      1. 0
        2 February 2018 10: 11
        ... McLaren report, Zeppelt films, test tube at the UN ...
        1. +3
          2 February 2018 10: 34
          certainly a lie, but an article about our lies
          1. 0
            2 February 2018 12: 55
            ... everyone lies, moreover, everywhere and always, it is important for us whose lies are less harmful and destructive for us, and so, the sun is shining, the rain is falling, people are lying ... ... very often for the average person, the lie becomes the price of peace , for a person who is strong, thinking, capable of acting a lie is an insult and a challenge, but there are only a few, the basis of the electorate is ordinary ordinary people who barely live from salary to salary, are not revolutionaries, and for them, anxiety can also be fatal here. The truth that destroys your familiar world is much more painful than the half-truth that preserves it. As always IMHO. The world is not white and black, the world is the whole spectrum between them ... KO.
            1. +2
              2 February 2018 13: 43
              do not go deeply into philosophy, this is darkness IMHO, a lie will never become true no matter what good goals hide, the main thing is not to convince yourself of a lie when others distinguish it, remember the words of GDP about the effectiveness of Chubais hi
              1. 0
                2 February 2018 13: 57
                ... for you this may be a philosophy, for me - my way of thinking and believe me, teaching others to live is an ungrateful occupation, which is up to Chubais’s effectiveness, but are you ready to accurately reveal Putin’s thought voiced by this remark? For example, I do not. You and I have a different understanding of the concept of truth, in my opinion, everyone has their own truth, and the truth is the same for everyone, you consider yourself entitled to call your truth the truth, I call my truth my truth. Well, this is really beyond the scope of the topic under discussion.
  16. +2
    1 February 2018 12: 27
    Quote: Overlock
    I do not understand you. If the President of the Russian Federation is a "doll", then why is he holding on to power like that? Indeed, according to your logic, he cannot even expel a minister?


    You are not me, you yourself cannot understand where you ended up, where you live ...
    Why should he change one speaking English-speaking head to another if the government itself, the thought, the courts, the media were created by the victors in the twentieth? The entire government system is colonial and managed from the outside and the task is not to butt, wasting time with particulars, but to achieve sovereignty, in which it is only possible to deploy the resources that are now flowing into the metropolis, to the internal needs of the country and people.
    Sovereignty. Russia. Putin
  17. +1
    1 February 2018 13: 44
    ... horses, people mixed together .. in your opinion, the main one is lying and partners ... Let’s say so - we all lie and with rare exceptions - always ... you want softer, okay - we’re not telling the whole truth and it doesn’t matter this, tori or plp. I don’t own the information about a suicide tragedy, I’ll say only one thing - I won’t bring such grief to my children, at least intentionally! And you would have already decided who you are or against whom ...
  18. +3
    1 February 2018 19: 14
    It was against the lies of the current government and the elections without a choice made me and my loved ones not to go to these fake elections.
  19. owl
    +1
    1 February 2018 21: 04
    I didn’t like the article, women gossip! What kind of dirt does the author write about? It is he who spreads dirt here.
  20. +4
    3 February 2018 16: 15
    Vovchik will be in power until he is carried forward with his feet. And he, and his entourage, and others like them will be grabbing, grabbing and grabbing ... Ce la vie ... drinks
    1. +4
      3 February 2018 16: 17
      Quote: Dzafdet
      Dzafdet

      Now I’ll call Said ...
  21. 0
    3 February 2018 17: 10
    Quote: Overlock
    Quote: cedar
    Look at the root, dear. US intelligence agencies not only compile lists of potential agents and traitors in Russia, but they really have their own agents and traitors here and this kodla acts on the collapse and destruction of Russia and the people, but the authors kept silent about this ...

    CIA agents are looking for their prey among those who own money, because they understand that now in most cases money can only be stolen. Among ordinary people, agents can be among the poor. Who on average is enough, why the heck is it necessary.
    So it turns out that the government’s policy itself increases the field for CIA agents — the gap between the poor and the rich in Russia has grown significantly.
    I believe that it’s still easier to search for agents on Okhotny Ryad. We do not work there

    ... And at Okhotny including ... sad
    1. 0
      3 February 2018 17: 19
      ... And at Okhotny including ...

      If we consider that it is in the interests of the State Department to support mochilov between the Slavic peoples, then the whole vertical with wallets can be written to agents.
  22. +2
    3 February 2018 17: 23
    Quote: onix757
    ... And at Okhotny including ...

    If we consider that it is in the interests of the State Department to support mochilov between the Slavic peoples, then the whole vertical with wallets can be written to agents.

    As they had to say in the glorious Soviet city of Odessa - "You confuse Gogol with Hegel, Babel with Bebel, God's gift with fried eggs, and .... th with your finger!" wassat
    1. 0
      3 February 2018 17: 28
      As they had to say in the glorious Soviet city of Odessa - "You confuse Gogol with Hegel, Babel with Bebel, God's gift with fried eggs, and .... th with your finger!"

      What exactly am I confusing?
  23. +1
    3 February 2018 17: 59
    Dear, I read the article and comments and did not understand what you are discussing and what kind of thought you are trying to convey to each other. We are lying ... the idea of ​​nuuuuu is very deep. And who does not lie or did not lie? There are such? Au moralists, where are you? A politician is, by definition, a liar. They are now honest and declare, "Politics is the art of the possible." The question is not in politicians, but in citizens. All those who condemn corruption condemn it only because they do not personally bring it, because nobody needs them. Tell me, who will refuse if they offer him a million, and ten, and a hundred, and gold, etc.? Bach and all the saints turned into a sanctuary at once. What are these citizens rebelling against? - Yes, against everything, only I didn’t see demonstrations and barricades for preserving Soviet education, forcing their children to study. Instead, they watch calmly as they take the future from them and discuss all kinds of crap.
  24. +2
    3 February 2018 18: 19
    Raise your hands up and step with a dumb head into the "western paradise" as slaves? Are we Russian or just born in Russia?

    For some reason, Igor Talkov remembered when he read the article ...
    "I do not presume to prophesy,
    But I know for sure that I'll be back
    Even after a hundred centuries
    The country is not fools, but geniuses.
    And, defeated in battle,
    I will rise and sing
    On the first birthday
    The country that returned from the war "...
    So, the country then returned from the war, but where did we get to which country and where are we now ??? Apparently, it’s definitely not in the country of geniuses, they don’t need to lie to the genius themselves and others, they will not let people lie, geniuses have always loved and respected ... And now what?
  25. 0
    5 February 2018 16: 38
    Roman Skomorokhov, Alexander Staver, following Oleg Chuvakin, joined the election campaign on the VO website and, of course, on the side of those opposed to the existing government. Judging by the frequency of occurrence of such articles and the site administration is in the same position, then I have a question for the administration - which presidential candidate pays for such articles? Once you represent opposition candidates on the site, then name them, it will be honest and you are sure that everyone on the site wants to participate in the election campaign? Maybe all the same we will be engaged in military review, and not an elected company?

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