In Ukraine, tested cruise missile from GKKB "Luch"

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In the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council announced the testing of the first Ukrainian land-based cruise missile. The report says that this rocket can destroy land and sea targets. According to the Secretary of the National Security Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov, “we are talking about a fully Ukrainian design”.

The ministry’s press service reports that the developer of the cruise missile is GCKB Luch in cooperation with several other enterprises of the military-industrial complex.



In Ukraine, tested cruise missile from GKKB "Luch"


Turchinov:
During the tests, which took place successfully, flight characteristics and operation of the rocket systems were checked. The National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, which coordinates the national missile program, has set the task to develop cruise missile complexes not only land-based, but also sea-based and air-based. The range of our cruise missiles and their combat equipment does not contradict the international agreements signed by Ukraine for this type weapons.





As you can see, the launcher was mounted on a stand for testing directly at the site.

Turchinov said that this is a very important event for Ukraine, since "after the total disarmament of the Ukrainian army, according to the Budapest Memorandum, no winged missiles were left in the Armed Forces of Ukraine."

Turchinov could not resist the remark that now the cruise missiles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "will be able to restrain the aggressor."

About when the cruise missiles from the "Ray" will begin to arrive in the army, the National Security Council is not reported.
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  1. +12
    30 January 2018 16: 01
    Turchinov could not resist remarking that now the APU cruise missiles “will be able to restrain the aggressor”

    Dupe thought riches.
    1. +5
      30 January 2018 16: 05
      Quote: figvam
      Dupe thought riches.
      - It’s good that the current Ukraine and Russia have a gap in the military. And whatever they do from the missiles, they will run into Russian missile defense. And this is Kirdyk to Khokhlyatsky "mriyam" ...
      1. +1
        30 January 2018 16: 08
        The armor is strong and our tanks are fast.
        1. +15
          30 January 2018 16: 13
          According to the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov, “we are talking about a completely Ukrainian development”

          They already have their own online store smile
          1. +9
            30 January 2018 16: 21
            not a single cruise missile was left in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine

            There was one and they launched ... lol
            1. +6
              30 January 2018 16: 27
              All the same, the Khokhlobander government hopes to get new weapons, but it seems that everything is in vain, because they successfully destroyed most of their military industry.
              1. +3
                30 January 2018 16: 53
                This is an expensive weapon. And they all stole. So there is not enough money. hi
                1. +2
                  30 January 2018 17: 35
                  Taught them on their own
                  1. +2
                    30 January 2018 17: 44
                    The main thing is that Ukraine does not follow the path of North Korea.
                    1. +1
                      30 January 2018 19: 31
                      Quote: ASed
                      The main thing is that Ukraine does not follow the path of North Korea.

                      Here in North Korea, this ukro-rocket may appear. In any case, when Eun created a long-range ballistic missile, there was a lot of information about the technologies sold by Ukroina.
                      1. +1
                        30 January 2018 22: 06
                        North Korea already copied the x-35 and showed it in 2014
                  2. +1
                    30 January 2018 18: 16
                    Quote: bulvas
                    Taught them on their own

                    No, they just have not forgotten how. But this is not for long. Everything Soviet is uprooted, and the flag is in their hands.
                  3. +5
                    30 January 2018 18: 44
                    whom did you teach there.
                    1. +2
                      30 January 2018 21: 58
                      We had ONE COUNTRY. We just had one big whole, divided us, but this is temporary ...
                      1. +5
                        30 January 2018 22: 46
                        Quote: Steffan
                        whom did you teach there.


                        I don’t know where you got such a nickname, but
                        was such a person, General Stefan
                        He built a city in Siberia, thanks to which our country has a powerful nuclear shield.

                        In the same region there were other enterprises and educational institutions on the same subject.
                        Personally, I did not teach, but the teachers from whom I studied also taught future specialists from Yuzhmash.

                        And if it weren’t for Russia, Ukraine would not have seen not only Yuzhmash, but much more.
                        Lyakhi there would definitely not have developed space rocket
                        industry
              2. 0
                30 January 2018 23: 21
                Quote: Giant thought
                All the same, the Khokhlobander government hopes to get new weapons, but it seems that everything is in vain, because they successfully destroyed most of their military industry.

                They have striped “partners”, to the peak of Russia they can provide a complete set for assembly and this will already be “fun” (((
                Medium-range missiles in the APU! And who else can launch them - ellipsis!
            2. +7
              30 January 2018 16: 38
              And the photo with Turchinov at the last rocket, the fact is fixed smile
          2. 0
            31 January 2018 08: 39
            A cruise missile without wings, however. As a model, an interesting thing = a new flight of thought of rogues.
        2. +8
          30 January 2018 16: 47
          And about the armor and everything else .. There are specimens and production there. And money for a small series at least.
          Quote: Sam_gosling
          The armor is strong and our tanks are fast.
          1. +4
            30 January 2018 17: 28
            Dmitry, the Kyrgyz Republic can be created, but in order for both water and land .... Here we need constant developments, of which I doubt Ukraine.
            1. +1
              30 January 2018 17: 39
              Well, they still produce something. In particular, like GOS for air-to-air missiles. Plus Belarusians could help. The truth is strange that there is no start video, at least from a distance. So there is nothing to evaluate so far ....
              1. +3
                30 January 2018 17: 45
                Andrei Nikolaevich, that’s the point! There is a picture and no more! When I was a teenager, I myself was engaged in photography ... Developer, fixer, red lamp, everyone is sleeping ... Lyapota!
            2. +2
              30 January 2018 19: 00
              X-55 began to produce in Kharkov, so there is experience. True, KB did not develop this missile at all. And very quickly production in Kharkov was turned off.
          2. +2
            30 January 2018 18: 21
            Quote: 210ox
            And money for a small series at least.

            If the manufacture of piece copies can be called a series. And what will they launch from, from the stand, as at the training ground? Any high-precision weapon is good and effective if it is inscribed in the structure of the troops, and does not exist by itself.
            1. +1
              30 January 2018 20: 48
              Quote: Orionvit
              If the manufacture of piece copies can be called a series.

              Every two months they demonstrate another prodigy, but after the demonstration and fiery speeches, everything calms down.
          3. +3
            30 January 2018 23: 00
            Quote: 210ox
            There are specialists and production there. And money for a small series at least.

            The opinion of our specialists is interesting:
            Military and political analyst, corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Missile and Artillery Sciences, Konstantin Sivkov, in an interview with RT, commented on a statement by the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov that the country conducted the first successful test of a new cruise missile of its own production.
            “This is utter nonsense, another provocation and stupidity of Mr. Turchinov. Most likely, they took the old Soviet missile out of habit, carried out an easy upgrade and are now trying to pass it off as some kind of new product. I can even guess what kind of missiles these are: P-120, which were armed with small missile ships of the Black Sea Fleet, ”he said

            “To make a rocket with a firing range, like the American Tomahawks or our Caliber, you need to have the appropriate control systems and engines. All this has never been produced in Ukraine.
            hi
            1. +1
              31 January 2018 10: 22
              “This is utter nonsense, another provocation and stupidity of Mr. Sivkov” That's more correct. How could he see it in a Ukrainian rocket And engines for cruise missiles in Ukraine were produced
              Short-life small-sized single-shaft turbofan engines with a thrust of 300–380 kgf with axial turbocompressor for subsonic strategic cruise missiles and operational-tactical air-to-surface missiles. Control system - analog electronic with hydromechanical dispenser. Development began in 1977, the first launches of experimental strategic air-launched cruise missiles X-55 with P95-300 engines took place in 1979. The engine passed the GI in 1982 and was put into service as part of the Tu-95MS complex with the X-55 missile in 1983 In serial production in Zaporozhye since 1982. For a missile, the Navy was produced in a modification of the P95A-300. Two more options were created for air-to-surface tactical missiles: R95TP-300 - for the X-59M aircraft missile (in the series since 1985) and R95TM-300 - for the X-35 anti-ship missile and the unified missile with it 3M24 missile system "Uranus" (in series since 1991). They are in service with the Russian Air Force and Navy, and are exported to a number of countries. Further development of the P95-300 was the single-shaft turbofan engine R125-300 of reduced weight and dimensions with a thrust of 380 kgf. Bench tests of the P125-300 demonstrator began in 2002. In 2005, for the first time, a modernized version of this engine was introduced - the P135-300 with a thrust of 340 kgf.

              Source: Take-off No. 4 of 2008
        3. +5
          30 January 2018 17: 17
          Quote: Sam_gosling
          The armor is strong and our tanks are fast.

          Excuse me, quarantine in kindergarten?
        4. +1
          31 January 2018 05: 50
          why do cruise missiles at all to Ukrainians? there are more urgent weapons
      2. +9
        30 January 2018 18: 32
        Despite derogatory comments here, Ukrainians quite actively present their developments. With normal funding, I think they will achieve good results. It seems the Saudis gathered to sponsor their promising developments. And there, something will fall into his own.
        1. Don
          +7
          30 January 2018 20: 39
          You're right. Just do not be offended by the local commentators. For 4 years of frantic propaganda with lies, people have lost a sense of reality. What-what, and Ukrainian specialists with the support of outside can create a subsonic ground-to-ground cruise missile. But every day we boast of our unsurpassed air defense systems, so let’s check if God forbid that. In general, there is nothing funny in this news, but nothing wrong with that either.
    2. +1
      30 January 2018 16: 25
      Poroshenko decided to scare Avakov this GGB KGB? lol
    3. +6
      30 January 2018 16: 48
      The Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council announced the test of the first Ukrainian ground-based cruise missile.

      If they are bungled into a series, then only for export and then in a limited amount, a lot of things have been announced. But it does not reach the series. Yes
    4. +2
      30 January 2018 17: 34
      Quote: figvam
      Dupe thought riches.

      Of course, he gets richer ... yes, only documentation on the technological process, solutions, etc., these skunks may well merge into third countries ... for example, to Turks or even terrorist organizations like igil (the benefit of that money, like that of a fool wrapper) and then we We will greatly lament and resent the fact that not homemade mines, but KR will fly towards Khmeimi.
  2. +14
    30 January 2018 16: 04
    sea ​​based? Apparently, this will be the world's first launch of a cruise missile from a rubber boat! I want to see!
    1. +8
      30 January 2018 16: 22
      It's kind of anti-ship Neptune

    2. +1
      30 January 2018 16: 27
      Quote: novel xnumx
      sea ​​based? Apparently, this will be the world's first launch of a cruise missile from a rubber boat! I want to see!

      Since with a rubber boat, for safety reasons they will launch in parts.
      1. 0
        30 January 2018 16: 37
        Since with a rubber boat, for safety reasons they will launch in parts.

        And besides, swim the first parts to see ballistics visually, along the wave
  3. +1
    30 January 2018 16: 07
    "Uranus" stolen?
  4. +7
    30 January 2018 16: 19
    (Turchinov said that for Ukraine this is a very important event, because "after the total disarmament of the Ukrainian army, according to the Budapest memorandum, there was not a single cruise missile in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.") Lied - After the total sale. So it will be more true.
    1. +2
      30 January 2018 18: 30
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Lied- After a total sale. It will be more true

      Three pieces of X-55 were sold to China, after which the states caused a terrible scandal to Ukraine. Engines were dismantled from all remaining cruise missiles of the X-55 and X-59 type by the specialists of Motor Sich, and sent back to the factory. Where, after the bulkhead and testing, they are sold as new to Israel and to Russia (Russian Missile Arms Corporation), under an Indian order. I honestly don’t know about the other types of missiles in Ukraine.
  5. 0
    30 January 2018 16: 21
    --- ". The range of our cruise missiles and their combat equipment do not contradict the international agreements signed by Ukraine for this type of weapon." --- Well, of course, everything is within the framework of the agreements. Now really, all neighbors of Ukraine should be wary - no matter how it turns out to be "wherever I want, I’m flying there."
    1. +3
      30 January 2018 16: 26
      No, this one explodes safely on the spot, destroying from 5 to 10 fascists from its own calculation.
      1. 0
        30 January 2018 16: 44
        Not predictability (or maybe vice versa) they do not occupy - because of its own development, which does not have anal. in the world!
  6. +2
    30 January 2018 16: 22
    do not contradict the international agreements signed by Ukraine for this type of weapon.

    Rave. And were they like that? Why i do not know?
    Here are the arms. He took the Khartsiz pipe and was already a launcher. In the Dnieper scored pipe stumps and already a rocket ....
    HIDE matches from children! And then ....
    The firemen will come and break everything, both right and guilty.
  7. 0
    30 January 2018 16: 24
    One horseradish will not reach the target, the ensign kerosene to heat his hut will merge even before the start.
  8. +2
    30 January 2018 16: 25
    Praying, pastor, the main thing is to pray. Before the arrival of the northern beast. And he will come.
    1. +1
      30 January 2018 16: 46
      Quote: iliitch
      And he will come.

      already come
  9. +3
    30 January 2018 16: 26
    Project Neptune, probably. Ray is Alder and Neptune, “Southern” to them. M.K. Yangelya Thunder 2
  10. +5
    30 January 2018 16: 29
    I’m not a specialist in rockets, but judging by the photo, this pipe (with Turchinov) would be useful to smoke fat.
  11. +1
    30 January 2018 16: 33
    Quote: oldseaman1957
    Quote: figvam
    Dupe thought riches.
    - It’s good that the current Ukraine and Russia have a gap in the military. And whatever they do from the missiles, they will run into Russian missile defense. And this is Kirdyk to Khokhlyatsky "mriyam" ...

    Then I agree with you! BUT - they can hit Donetsk and Lugansk! This is already alarming. recourse
    1. +3
      30 January 2018 17: 33
      What is alarming then? KR is not a quadrocopter with a lemon! Launch towards the border of the Russian Federation? Let’s better calculate the answer options!
      1. +1
        30 January 2018 18: 21
        Quote: sabakina
        Let’s better calculate the answer options!

        Answers-shmatvatki. If they pull on us, it will be too late - only deep concerns from Lavrov will fall. Here under the baseboard would prophylactically drive the freaks, so no, not fate. Our pissing stumps only in fact react. We have a lot to learn from Israel.
    2. +1
      30 January 2018 18: 42
      In Donetsk and Lugansk, they have enough "hail". A precision weapon requires so many components, the presence of which in the Ukrainian army was lost with the collapse of the Union, and simply with the collapse of the army itself. The modern Armed Forces of Ukraine is the army of the “third world” country, with outdated armaments, ineffective aircraft and the practical absence of a fleet, though with a large remnant of armored vehicles. It was reached, sold out, that the missiles for the "city" are already being bought in Bulgaria.
  12. +5
    30 January 2018 16: 36
    The National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, which coordinates the national missile program, has set the task to develop cruise missile systems not only on land, but also on sea and air bases.
    But what is not cosmic for Lybed? what
    About when the cruise missiles from the "Ray" will begin to arrive in the army, the National Security Council is not reported.
    Duc for such terms, the Pastor is even afraid to think, he will not remain in the archives
  13. +6
    30 January 2018 16: 40
    It is expected that in mid-2016 the first tests will be conducted of the latest Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship cruise missile, developed by the Kiev State Design Bureau “Luch” in Kiev.

    The X-35s were stolen, and something was delayed for 2 years with the launch:
    The Neptune cruise missile is designed to destroy combat surface ships and transport ships from strike groups (convoys) or following single displacement of up to 5000 tons and is similar in design to the Russian anti-ship missile X-35 from the Bal-E complex. It is expected the appearance of three modifications of the new Ukrainian missile system # Neptune ship, ground and air based.

    Promising missiles will be placed in transport and launch containers (TPK) with dimensions of 5300x600x600 mm. The length of the rocket itself with an accelerator of 5050 mm. TPK with a missile with a cross-shaped folding wing can be placed on land, sea or air carriers.


    X-35
    Niptun
    https://ukrainenewsup.wordpress.com/2016/03/10/в-
    Ukraine-prepare-for-first-test /
    1. +2
      30 January 2018 23: 35
      Actually the campaign was she herself. I don’t know which stash she got from, but as with the engines for the alleged “alder” it is very alarming - a partial serial “appearance” against the background of general artisanalism. You can consider me paranoid, but more and more it reminds me of a frank lie with a “demonstration” of the USSR left over from the collapse as “new achievements”.
      Okay - suppose they performed a miracle and were able to really restore or complement the entire cycle of creating the X-35. But then a completely different problem arises - this is an anti-ship missile !! belay fool Its imported "brethren" are an exoscet, with which the Argentines drowned the same Naglov cruiser during the war for the Maldives, and the "harpoon". Actually, this is all said, more than once here the backwardness of these missiles, versus modern air defense and missile defense, was sorted out on the bones. Well, the last thing is the inconceivable redneck of the thieves to bring Ukraine in, these dodges can only steal and in no case will they agree to spend budgetary funds on such an expensive missile instead of “in order to master them correctly”.
  14. 0
    30 January 2018 16: 44
    wassat fellow laughing lol laughing ...rave!!!
    1. 0
      31 January 2018 09: 43
      Figase ... Nuclear weapons on the tank! wassat Well, that's it, Muscovites and quilted jackets, weeping together. So far the truth is out of laughter.
  15. +5
    30 January 2018 16: 47
    This is a Ukrainian copy of X-35.
    1. +4
      30 January 2018 16: 56
      Indeed very similar.
      From scratch they can only make dung
      1. +1
        30 January 2018 17: 51
        And did he really do it from scratch? There is a case from the T-64.
        1. 0
          30 January 2018 19: 08
          there is a housing from a garbage container, for the removal of bulky waste
    2. 0
      30 January 2018 23: 37
      It’s not even a fact that this is a copy, much more likely that it is really an X-35, only not copied, but banally pulled from one of the decommissioned ships. feel But for the sake of PR, we can say that "- here we are.
  16. +2
    30 January 2018 16: 50
    completely Ukrainian development
    can, as a little versed, laugh?
    1. +2
      30 January 2018 16: 52
      You can laugh. The case is fully copied according to the X-35 drawings. The filling is only modern.
      Although I see nothing wrong with that.
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        1. +6
          30 January 2018 16: 56
          Why are you so aggressive? uh ... i did not offend you.
          Got something to say in essence?
          1. +2
            30 January 2018 17: 01
            Quote: Equalized
            Got something to say in essence?

            What for? what
            1. +4
              30 January 2018 17: 40
              Andrei, mind you, he doesn’t say anything concrete, but demands from us!
              1. +1
                30 January 2018 19: 59
                and I won’t say anything request
  17. 0
    30 January 2018 16: 54
    Most likely this is a single throw test of a single sample of the rocket. Before the finished rocket as before communism. Yes, checked the engine and expelling charge. In Kiev, they will put everyone in a shelter when the navigation is checked on the next one. And under the Rostov are waiting for "Typhoons", come on Turchinov, launch your targets ...
    1. +2
      30 January 2018 19: 10
      And under Rostov they’re waiting for the "Typhoons",

      Typhoons? What do submarines do near Rostov? Who are they waiting for there? wassat
      1. 0
        30 January 2018 21: 19
        Yes, a typo, "Triumphs", hurried ... wink
        Thank you for your comment ... wink
  18. +2
    30 January 2018 16: 56
    Somewhere I already saw this rocket
    1. +3
      30 January 2018 17: 02
      Yes, because ukroraket is her clone .. even officially announced and did not hide why they decided
      1. +4
        30 January 2018 17: 42
        Quote: Equalized
        knuckle down

        Communicate, I still understand. And, I understand, in Georgian jit! Oh, this Kin Dza Dza !!!!
    2. +2
      30 January 2018 18: 52
      yes, I also saw her somewhere ..... and, it’s a spitting harpoon. so who ripped off the concept from someone ????
      1. +4
        30 January 2018 19: 13
        who ripped off the concept

        Concept? Do you have the concept of a cruise missile (between the harpoon and the X-35 there isn’t much more in common, even from your picture it’s visible)? Well, I think the Germans (V-1) tore off.
  19. +2
    30 January 2018 17: 06
    The next step of Ukraine is the secret arrival of a team of developers and the military in Sevastopol to install sea-based missiles on Ukrainian ships that did not have time to rot in the parking lot in the bay. Clay "Moment" and adhesive tape are already going to volunteers.
  20. 0
    30 January 2018 17: 12
    Comrade Turchinov is still far from your place before Russia is time to calm down
  21. +2
    30 January 2018 17: 15
    The report says that this missile allows you to destroy land and sea targets.

    It seems to me that he is lying. After so many years of selling the inheritance of the USSR to make universal Kyrgyzstan? ....
    1. +1
      30 January 2018 18: 09
      Quote: sabakina
      It seems to me that he is lying. After so many years of selling the inheritance of the USSR to make universal Kyrgyzstan

      for a stationary target - it’s entirely possible. With the disconnection of the GOS and using only the ANN. Accuracy, while, of course - plus or minus a couple of hundred meters.
      Anti-aircraft missiles are also used not only for air targets. And as an anti-ship tool - when you turn off the radar fuse. The power of warheads in missiles is inferior to that of anti-ship missiles, but the reaction time is several times shorter.
  22. +4
    30 January 2018 17: 21
    According to the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov, “we are talking about a completely Ukrainian development”

    Neptune (and apparently it’s about him, because Luch has only Alder, a rocket for the Smerch MLRS) - a Ukrainian copy of the Soviet X-35. At one time, X-35 missiles were manufactured in Kharkov (KhAZ), there should have remained design and technological documentation for it.
  23. 0
    30 January 2018 17: 25
    I’ll take a look, they have already filled the whole world with anchors, missiles, armored vehicles, the hohloin is so powerful that the ships (rusty truth) have been refused arrogantly laughing everybody tremble
  24. 0
    30 January 2018 17: 33
    The fascists had to be finished off earlier, and not let them arm themselves
  25. +2
    30 January 2018 17: 41
    A copy of our X-35 rocket, here is still soon and a copy will be our UAV Orlan-10
    1. 0
      31 January 2018 11: 04
      Quote: Alexander War
      Copy of our X-35 rocket

      "Ours"? X-35 is a Soviet rocket. And it was produced under the USSR precisely in Ukraine.
  26. +2
    30 January 2018 17: 42
    Like on the first photo of X-35
    1. 0
      30 January 2018 18: 19
      Quote: stock buildbat
      Like on the first photo of X-35

      This is her fake. Only the name "Uranus" was changed to "Neptune."
  27. 0
    30 January 2018 17: 47
    What’s the launcher from the ship?
    1. +1
      30 January 2018 18: 51
      Quote: kolkulon
      What’s the launcher from the ship?

      because the anti-ship missile
      were going to name neptune
  28. 0
    30 January 2018 18: 30
    Strange enough information, more like an advertisement?
    With the general degradation of industry, Ukraine suddenly had 3 new types of missile systems! All three passed tests and all were successful !!!
    As a rule, shots or launch videos are rather vague, hitting the target only with words and proof of presence is also only verbal. In the photo, in general, the hat shows that the container is sometimes charred so that its initial color is not always clear, especially when powder boosters are used.
    1. +2
      30 January 2018 18: 37
      The rocket uses a solid fuel starting engine and then the MS-400 marching engine

      1. +3
        30 January 2018 18: 41
        It seemed to me alone that this was a cartoon?
        After starting on the lid, it’s not that the paint has not peeled off, it is not even dirty!
        1. +3
          30 January 2018 20: 03
          ash stump used new gunpowder in the accelerator, by the way, they paid special attention even in the video, a hundred launchers remained clean after starting
          but as for me this is far from the first launch of this rocket
          The bloody pastor himself is 150m from the launcher and not even in the bunker that is strewn behind.
        2. +3
          30 January 2018 20: 10
          Quote: APASUS
          After starting on the lid, it’s not that the paint has not peeled off, it is not even dirty!

          for Avakov rubbed - that would not freeze
          1. 0
            30 January 2018 22: 03
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            for Avakov rubbed - that would not freeze

            laughing
        3. +1
          31 January 2018 14: 22
          Quote: APASUS
          It seemed to me alone that this was a cartoon?

          Really like computer graphics.
    2. +2
      30 January 2018 19: 58
      Quote: APASUS
      With the general degradation of industry, Ukraine suddenly

      Who convinced you of this statement?
      You can go give him two "flashlights" for prevention.
      Quote: APASUS
      suddenly 3 new types of missile systems loomed immediately! All three passed tests and all were successful !!!

      not suddenly, but too slowly
      1. 0
        30 January 2018 20: 17
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        Who convinced you of this statement?

        I don’t need to convince, I can count. I can name 15 factories that went for metal in one regional center of Ukraine. There is no work in the city in principle. Generated capacities are only for the needs of the Armed Forces, new places are 20-30 pcs per year for a city of 300 Thousands, although I doubt that so many of them live there now, all in Poland.
        1. +1
          30 January 2018 22: 04
          Quote: APASUS
          Created capacity only for the needs of the Armed Forces,

          Vtsy yourself write that VPK works
          1. 0
            2 February 2018 10: 54
            Quote: prosto_rgb
            Vtsy yourself write that VPK works

            20-30 places per 300 thousand city is it called work?
  29. 0
    30 January 2018 18: 42
    Quote: Equalized
    The rocket uses a solid fuel starting engine and then the MS-400 marching engine


    It seemed to me alone that this was a cartoon?
    After starting on the lid, it’s not that the paint has not peeled off, it is not even dirty!
    1. +2
      30 January 2018 18: 52
      ))))
      Filmed at Kievfilm.

      I will not seriously discuss such conspiracy theories frankly delusional. By the way, the rocket rather accurately “jumped out” of the TPK, spread its wings and flew. Why would something go wrong?

      1. 0
        30 January 2018 19: 13
        Quote: Equalized
        I will not seriously discuss such conspiracy theories frankly delusional

        Don’t discuss, I expressed my opinion and yours don’t really interest me. Because you don’t notice obvious things. There is no burning on the cover, there is no burning on the ground. Have you ever seen how LNG shoots ?? There, on a tenth shot, the earth can catch fire, and here the start of a whole rocket and nothing. And the start path is generally against the laws of physics
      2. +2
        30 January 2018 20: 09
        Quote: Equalized
        Why would something go wrong?

        does not spoil
        usually, when operating solid-fuel accelerators, everything nearby is covered by the products of fuel combustion i.e. soot including but here this is not observed
        this is what comrade suspected
        but in fact nothing surprising, they just use the new mixed composition of gunpowder - it burns better, less fumes.
        1. 0
          31 January 2018 18: 16
          Quote: prosto_rgb
          usually, when operating solid-fuel accelerators, everything nearby is covered by the products of fuel combustion i.e. soot including but here this is not observed

          Well, yes, on clean, dry wood, startanuli ???
          Here is the launch of Bal E with the same rocket. Where did the smoke trail go on in the Ukrainian video, but it doesn’t exist at all, this is a movie for patriots, you also don’t seem to understand this.
          1. 0
            1 February 2018 22: 56
            Quote: APASUS
            Well, yes, on clean, dry wood, startanuli ???

            Compare the track from the launches of the Nebelwerfer and BM-13 Katyusha
            obviously the soviet ones were flying wood
            1. 0
              2 February 2018 10: 59
              Quote: prosto_rgb
              Compare the track from the launches of the Nebelwerfer and BM-13 Katyusha

              I suggested that you compare the launch of the X-35 rocket of the BAL-E coastal complex and the installation of a cartoon for children launching the same rocket, only of Ukrainian origin!
              What does the Nebelwerfer and BM-13 Katyusha have to do with it?
              Better explain where the smoke trail went when launching Ukrainian super weapons
      3. +1
        30 January 2018 21: 41
        Quote: Equalized
        ))))
        Filmed at Kievfilm.

        I will not seriously discuss such conspiracy theories frankly delusional. By the way, the rocket rather accurately “jumped out” of the TPK, spread its wings and flew. Why would something go wrong?


        ===
        smoke, as it were, should be more, except that the shell was abandoned for a couple of kilometers
  30. +3
    30 January 2018 18: 53
    Quote: sabakina
    Dmitry, the Kyrgyz Republic can be created, but in order for both water and land .... Here we need constant developments, of which I doubt Ukraine.

    Based on our RCC "Uranus", which was produced by EMNIP in Kharkov. so there’s probably documentation

    Quote: Thrall
    It's kind of anti-ship Neptune

    That's right. This is RCC Neptune (apparently a copy of our Uranus

    Quote: Evgenijus
    Most likely this is a single throw test of a single sample of the rocket. Before the finished rocket as before communism. Yes, checked the engine and expelling charge. In Kiev, they will put everyone in a shelter when the navigation is checked on the next one. And under the Rostov are waiting for "Typhoons", come on Turchinov, launch your targets ...

    Even if catchy, it is unlikely that one instance was made. nevertheless, Ukrainian designers should not be considered full of KR. to make one. Honestly I didn’t hear that there were throw tests at the RCC. Throwing - this is most often checking the PAD and how the rocket leaves the launch container. This missile has no PAD. It is possible, of course, that there really was a test of the engine (without the GOS) - but wait and see
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    1. 0
      30 January 2018 19: 11
      here ... from you they all go! Bravo!
    2. +1
      30 January 2018 19: 19
      And what to discuss, it was possible to copy the Soviet missile, work on which began in the Ukrainian SSR 40 years ago. PEREMOGA.
      Only the lazy did not buy such missiles; they are made in the Russian Federation by hundreds (or maybe thousands) of them. In India alone, more than 200 were sold ...
      1. +1
        30 January 2018 20: 32
        Quote: bk316
        managed to copy the Soviet rocket, work on which started in the USSR 40 years ago

        The development of the X-35 was carried out by OKB Zvezda (design bureau of plant No. 455, Kaliningrad Machine-Building Plant Strela, Moscow Region)
        1. +1
          31 January 2018 14: 21
          It seemed to me in cooperation with Yuzhmash. It has been identified as the main production base. Maybe I'm wrong ...
      2. +2
        30 January 2018 23: 07
        Quote: bk316
        work on which began in the Ukrainian SSR 40 years ago. PEREMOGA.

        The first launch of the RCC prototype was carried out on November 5, 1985 from a coastal position. A number of 1986 launches were unsuccessful, and a number of systems were needed to be finalized. Only at launch on January 29, 1987 did all the rocket systems work normally
        By coincidence, it was on January 22, at the Point Mugu marine test site in California, by Boeing, in favor of the Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) that the Harpoon Block II + anti-ship missile in the H12E modification was successfully tested. Note that we are talking about the modernization of a rocket that has been in the arsenal of the US Navy for more than 40 years and its modernization potential is not considered exhausted there.
  32. DPN
    0
    30 January 2018 20: 39
    Yeltsin knew what he was doing, but the train left alone well until these missiles reach me.
  33. 0
    30 January 2018 21: 21
    That’s all nonsense.
  34. 0
    30 January 2018 21: 46
    Are there any performance characteristics?
    1. +2
      30 January 2018 21: 57
      280 km of naval targets
      300 + by ground
      Active radar head by default, you can cling to another type of GOS at your discretion.

      ps
      It was not a missile launch in order to check all the parameters, it was a throw from the TPK. Full launches will come later. The rocket with the video most likely fell somewhere nearby. NOTAM (missile warning) was not issued, which means it flew not far.
  35. 0
    30 January 2018 22: 03
    Will foreign friends help or not, to have \ make such a weapon is expensive ... for sale ??? doubtful.
    We'll see.
    1. +2
      30 January 2018 22: 04
      A very knowledgeable source on UkrVPK (Diana Mikhailova, https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/) writes that this is development by state order, and not from behind a hill like OTRK.
      1. +1
        30 January 2018 22: 34
        Quote: Equalized
        A very knowledgeable source on UkrVPK (Diana Mikhailova, https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/) writes that this is development by state order, and not from over the hill as OTRK

        the question is - what are the carriers for the rocket?
        1. +1
          30 January 2018 22: 43
          An analogue of the Russian Ball complex on a self-propelled chassis is planned. The base for the rocket is being developed by the same office that did the SPU OTRK "Thunder-2" with a huge truck. Most likely, under the KR there will be a simplified version of the same tractor, because the Thunder-2 is a huge rocket, and here such dimensions are not needed.

          Aviation carriers (An-148 and Su-24 / 27) and sea carriers (missile boats?) Are also considered. But this is already associated with high costs, I think for the time being they will do exclusively the ground version.
          1. +1
            30 January 2018 22: 52
            in fact, the question was, because screwing a rocket to an airplane or boat is a very big cost. Yes, and SPU themselves .. well, maybe a couple of divisions. Not more. Where are they going? It is extremely unprofitable to shoot such expensive missiles at ground targets. Without an export sight, making an analog of the X-35 didn’t make much sense
            1. +1
              30 January 2018 22: 56
              The sight for export is by itself, it would be strange if it were not. I mean that the development initiative came from the MOU initially, and not from a foreign customer, as is the case with OTRK.
      2. +1
        31 January 2018 00: 02
        Yes that's right
        this by state order
        and it is planned as a base model
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  37. 0
    31 January 2018 07: 30
    Have the P-120 been painted yellow-black?
    1. +1
      31 January 2018 10: 09
      Wear glasses if you saw this in a Ukrainian rocket.
  38. +3
    31 January 2018 10: 10
    don’t talk nonsense about the fact that Russia taught Ukraine. Ukraine is Russia, in all KB half of the specialists were from Ukraine or Ukrainian origin. All educational institutes and universities were built simultaneously in the Russian Federation and in the USSR for since 1922 there was a single country and NO ONE NEVER TEACHED. Your mother may have taught you.
  39. 0
    31 January 2018 10: 29
    They took off the installation of the anti-ship missile PKR P-120 Malachite, created back in the USSR and put into service in 71, removed from the ship of their Black Sea Fleet. I don’t know what they did to her there in the process of modernization, but this is not a classic cruise missile and doesn’t even close in its properties near Tomahawk or Caliber. And in general, all they do there is the modernization of obsolete Soviet-made weapons.
  40. 0
    31 January 2018 11: 28
    they started up the trash and laundered the money and hung the noodles

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