US will continue to buy lasers for the Navy

The US military continues to purchase and test combat lasers. According to the portal navaltoday.com, the command of the US Navy ordered the Lockheed Martin corporation to assemble two laser systems with a total value of about $ 150 million.

Two High Energy Laser and Integrated Optical-dazzler with surveillance system (HELIOS) laser systems must be supplied the fleet in 2020. One of them will be installed on the destroyer type Arleigh Burke, the second - in the ground test center. If the laser systems satisfy the requirements of the military, the contract will be expanded to another 9 combat lasers (the total amount will be $ 942 million)

According to unofficial information, the power of the first two laser systems will range from 60 to 150 kW. At the same time in the military department indicate that the prototypes of laser weapons should hit various objects, as well as "dazzle" reconnaissance equipment on drones.

Earlier, the US Department of Defense ordered a new generation LaWS laser machine for the fleet - this year it will arm the USS Portland transport dock (LPD 27), after which LaWS will pass the next test phase, reports "Warspot"

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[ul_vitalii]

And they will train on the pirates.

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: ul_vitalii

And they will train on the pirates.

- Yes, even in the cemetery, if only our lasers were no worse!

[Chestnut]

Yeah, in our country this will appear in 2500, in a single copy, an experimental sample, and up to 3000 three prototypes will be put into the army, if you think about it, not so long to wait)

[Dead duck]

Quote: Chestnut

Yeah, we’ll have this in 2500,

with us - is it anyone, the Germans?
in the USSR it was all already.
At EBN-e, they got hold of many of our developments and technologies.

[Chestnut]

Quote: Deadush

Quote: Chestnut

Yeah, we’ll have this in 2500,

with us - is it anyone, the Germans?
in the USSR it was all already.
At EBN-e, they got hold of many of our developments and technologies.

It was, yes sailed away.
Now, at best, the Russian defense industry has somehow mastered the production of equipment of the Soviet Union level, and in the yard already 2020 is coming soon.
In the context of the achievements of Americans and NATO, the Russian army more and more resembles Papuans with spears.
In 2021, a laser will be put on American planes, 100% end of Russian aviation.

[Dead duck]

Quote: Chestnut

It was, yes sailed away.

Duc, Americans are also not far gone ...
considering how much time has passed since then and that they got a lot for free.

[Partyzan]

And in the fog, how? or is it constantly clear to them?

[sabakina]

Bob, welcome! I wonder how many years later they will abandon this idea, seeing all the futility of their thinking? Well, really, like flies are breaking on glass ...

[Partyzan]

Quote: sabakina

how many years will they abandon this idea,

and cut the budget? Nah, you have a wrong idea hi

[Topotun]

Here the field is not plowed! The hyperbolide damn engineer Garin .... So much dough can be buried .... And the fact that in fog and snow the efficiency drops dramatically and the real range at best is 1-2 km (provided that they can keep the beam at one point for several tens seconds) this is garbage.

[Cube123]

Quote: sabakina

Bob, welcome! I wonder how many years later they will abandon this idea, seeing all the futility of their thinking? Well, really, like flies are breaking on glass ...

« Americans always find the only right solution. After everyone else has tried. »
Winston Churchill

[KVU-NSVD]

Yes, they have around the world experimental as dirt for anything. Hitler, with his experiments in concentration camps, nervously smokes on the sidelines. And the laser ...? Well, a laser ... for such headstock, such installations and ours would have riveted a car, but there is no order. Another railgun gun - zilch loud and smelly, but you don’t use it in a gas stove (metaphor)

[san4es]

Quote: ul_vitalii

And they will train on the pirates.

... on cigarettes

[gla172]

.... nonsense ... stupidly someone is chopping loot ..... it has been proved more than once that it is either ineffective, or generally useless ....

[voyaka uh]

Go, go ... go.
A laser that has been serving for several years now
on the helicopter carrier USS Ponce, has a power of 35 kW.
They set fire to them at regular test firing
UAVs and light boats.
A 150 kW laser has much greater capabilities.

[tchoni]

Maybe so, but we’ll see it. Personal IMHO - until the device reaches half a megawatt - even somehow I find it difficult to formulate, but, let’s say, the thing will not go beyond the limits of auxiliary weapons. Or, to put it another way, it will not be able to significantly affect the balance of power in the world.
Although, in general, the stubbornness and desire of Americans to invest in science is admirable and, oddly enough, envy ...

[voyaka uh]

So the fleet is not trying to get lasers as strategic
weapons. They are designed to replace the near air defense / missile defense.
Instead of quick-firing cannons and short-range missiles.
No coup.
It’s much more interesting when they begin to equip combat aircraft with a laser,
especially fighters.
And as a defensive (from explosives, explosives) and as offensive
(instead of guns) weapons. Here is a real revolution in the tactics of the Air Force.

[tchoni]

That's what I'm talking about.

[demiurg]

It seems like a smart person

What air defense / missile defense?
Bully on motorboats can be heated by CPV or M2. Any metal cutting will take apart the drone.
By the way, how to use a laser in fog or smoke?
On airplanes, as a replacement for guns and BB missiles, maybe someday. Only the laser is very easily counteracted, painting the aircraft in the color of the beam.

[voyaka uh]

"Only the laser is very easily counteracted, painting the aircraft in the color of the beam." ///

What color?
And if you put a mirror, the beam will reflect and fly back,
and the laser itself will kill to death ...

[Grigory_45]

Quote: demiurg

the laser is very easily counteracted, coloring the aircraft in the color of the beam

How's it, shy to ask? I would also like to hear the name of that Great Scientist who invented it.

[yehat]

why not replace the near air defense: near targets often have a decent angular velocity, and the angle + point of incidence of the beam on the target changes rapidly, which worsens the concentration of energy.
Therefore, near the laser is not so good. And its plus - the speed near does not channel at all
Add to this the problem of getting into an ally and interfering with the laser itself.
why it doesn’t land on a light aircraft: the laser itself has moderate dimensions, but only the B-52 or Boeing-747 will fit in its pump (which, by the way, has already been implemented).
Defensive short-range armament from missiles does not channel because anti-aircraft missiles are very fast and paragraph 1 of my description. There are guidance problems - both time-appropriate target designation, and speed + drive accuracy + firing angle.
More or less suitable to shoot down ATGMs, but not anti-aircraft missiles.
There are problems with maintaining constant combat readiness or with the speed of bringing to combat readiness.

The best use of the laser is the high altitudes of all clouds and terrain,
the range is definitely higher than 3-4 km (so that at least something is better than a gun), but below 60 (dispersion). Exactly what is implemented on the Boeing and almost the same thing - on the ship.
For technical reasons, the laser will not find any new roles for the destructive effect in the next 10-15 years. The Americans have stolen what they have from the USSR and haven’t come up with anything, and in Russia there are no longer those who will come up with a new one.

[72jora72]

They set fire to them at regular test firing
UAVs and light boats.

Well do not exaggerate , in most of your posts dear, 50 percent of the truth, and the remaining 50 heresy

[RusPrim]

Proof in the studio, please

[Grigory_45]

as a means of near air defense - why not? "Ammunition" is theoretically unlimited, the power for working over short distances is enough.
In the USSR, experiments were also carried out with ship laser weapons. And very successfully - if I am not mistaken, the ATGM simulating the attack ship of the anti-ship missile was shot down.

[APASUS]

It would be better to cast gold shells right away

[Mentat]

Quote: tchoni

Maybe so, but we’ll see it. Personal IMHO - until the device reaches half a megawatt - even somehow I find it difficult to formulate, but, let’s say, the thing will not go beyond the limits of auxiliary weapons.

This will not help. In the USSR, calculations were made of the efficiency of laser radiation depending on its power and real experiments.
An increase in power above a certain threshold causes explosive evaporation of the surface material, the cloud from which extinguishes the incoming beam.
Americans are engaged in frank delirium. Perhaps they are trying to draw into the next local arms race, not realizing that everything that they are trying to stick on their ships has already been tested and calculated by us 60 years ago. There is also the possibility that they are developing supporting platforms and harnesses for weapons on new principles.
Or maybe they were overexcited from a Soviet test vessel with an experimental laser system, which they received from Ukraine, and still can not calm down.

[voyaka uh]

"The increase in power above a certain threshold causes explosive evaporation of the material" ////

In the know, Americans, in the know ...
But the need for invention is cunning. Do not increase the power of one beam, but reduce it to one
spot several or several dozen rays.

[Ural resident]

it can become a very unpleasant thing, especially in tense non-violent situations, when there is no war and no longer peace.
For instruments, it will work well as pressure on the opponent.