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How do fakes work? On the example of the case in the Republic of Kazakhstan

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The term "fake news" with the filing of US President Donald trump has become virtually an integral satellite of the modern information space. If a few years ago the very notion of the deceitful News in the mass media was mainly attributed to the so-called “yellow” (“tabloid”) publications, nowadays very large information sources, including even news agencies and television channels, also sin with such publications.


And fake fake strife. There are relatively “harmless” publications, when a particular author makes a mistake while processing an array of information, and a false grain appears in the publication. However, this can hardly be called a fake, because a real fake is a conscious thing. Its authors are consciously trying to mislead a certain part of the public in order to get a certain kind of dividends from publication.

Is it easy to recognize a published fake? In fact, sometimes even people who have been cooking for decades in the media environment and, it would seem, can easily isolate a false post against the background of truthful information can not recognize it. The reason for the difficulty is that the creators of fakes in the modern media environment are not people "from the street". These are professional staff, often employees of large media themselves, who either generate or broadcast untrue information of the most diverse nature, including economic and political.

How does this machine - many, unfortunately, have experienced. And taking into account the fact that modern media space is not only the media, but also dozens of different social networks, where any information is multiplying exponentially, the fake news that has experienced the effect becomes more and more in our world.

Why is this so "multi-letter" entry? And in order to evaluate the “practical” examples - examples of what goals are pursued by modern fakykomety in the Global space.

So, a concrete example of today.

The Republic of Kazakhstan. The beginning of January. In the segment of social networks in Kazakhstan, a note appears that gangs of false testimony showed themselves in the republic, which allegedly go home and offer to undergo a medical examination "on the spot" for free. Of the services offered - taking a blood sample for a rapid test for blood sugar levels. Allegedly, in fact, these fake medics introduce a deadly virus into the body of citizens, which ultimately leads to dire consequences for human health, even death. This note, using all kinds of instant messengers, began to spread throughout Kazakhstan, “informing” more and more new users. Having heard horror stories about the “gang of infectious agents,” mothers began to write more often refusals to vaccinate children, the elderly - to refuse to take tests at home to mobile teams of doctors and local doctors.

How do fakes work? On the example of the case in the Republic of Kazakhstan


The informational (or rather, misinformational) stream has taken very impressive forms. It got to fouling with additional "nuances" from the series - "now it will be even worse." The situation had to comment on the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Kazakhstan. Through the media of Kazakhstan, the Ministry of Internal Affairs reported that the information contained in the distribution list has nothing to do with reality. No "gangs of false testimony" in Kazakhstan, either now or previously identified.

The Department of Information of the Ministry of Internal Affairs noted that not a single crime described by means of social networks and instant messengers was committed in the republic.

Thus, it can be stated that a certain person (a group of people), consciously launching a fake on the Web, has already achieved its goal: people have been sown with the grain of doubt as to whether, for example, it is safe for children to make all the necessary vaccinations - won't it happen that the doctor’s place would be “a gangster in a white robe who will deliberately give a lethal injection”. Is it safe to open the door to the district doctor ... It is very difficult to refute fakes. But to erase from the media environment, oh, how difficult. Despite the fact that even the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Kazakhstan reported lies, the survivability of the fake was extremely high. Why? And because feykomety and even experienced psychologists - have found the place where in the disinformation plan to strike, in order to catch up with the fear of a large part of the gullible population.

What could lead to such a stuffing in the network? Yes, to the most serious consequences. Take at least the most complicated situation of measles in Ukraine. The Deputy Minister of Health of Ukraine provided the media with data on the basis of which it can be found out that 600-800 cases are recorded weekly in the country. Only from the beginning of the year - 1285! And since the beginning of the outbreak - already 8 deaths. It became known that measles "is trying" to go beyond the borders of Ukraine - there appeared relevant confirmed data on dozens of sick people in Poland.

And it is precisely against this background that the very fake horror story about “killer doctors” appeared in Kazakhstan, which introduce “incurable diseases” either when visiting people at home, or directly in clinics. As the well-known TV presenter says: “Coincidence? I do not think. This is a targeted blow, calculated on the fact that the population has a level of confidence in medicine (which, frankly speaking, is already small) will sink to the bottom, and that a person in a white coat will be perceived almost as a precursor of the "hellish torments" .

Another example of a fairly tenacious fake of recent years: the Defense Ministry allegedly is about to increase the service life of an appeal. The effectiveness and feasibility of a one-year or two-year service life of a conscript is a separate conversation. In this case, it is precisely the stuffing that is being discussed that immediately spawned new rumors: they say, now the “conscripts” will serve almost 30 months. Psychology worked here: many parents of future draftees did not check the veracity of such publications in dubious groups of social networks, but they began to actively “post” this fake, as if “warning others about the danger”. Psychology is that a person is more likely to believe in the most impudent lie than in an official report or release. Although there is still a question of people's trust in official reports and releases ...

There are a lot of examples of fakes, including a megaphone from officials, called the "Powell test tube" ... The millions of victims of this fake must come in dreams to all those who spawned it, including the former US Secretary of State. But do they come? ..

And another question: aren’t modern fakes in the media the descendants of what has been at all times, such as the search for an excuse to start an armed conflict? As a confirmation, there was an information session with the attack of the alleged Poles on a German radio station (the well-known Gleuitsky incident) with the transmission of the anti-German conscription in Polish.

In general, fakes are not just misinformation. weapons. This is a special tool both of waging war and their initial unleashing. At the same time, the result of a false injection in the Web may be such that it changes the entire geopolitical landscape depending on the scale of the lies in order to generate it.
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  1. tasha
    tasha 30 January 2018 06: 06 New
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    Deny! Prohibit everything!
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 30 January 2018 14: 32 New
      +2
      But there is a flip side to the coin. The government is very fond of hiding meaningful things and clogging up the TV with the theme “everything is fine” or “what’s at the skins”.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 30 January 2018 17: 02 New
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        How to distinguish fake from the truth? Try using the following question as an example: If Ukraine has measles, then how much is honey. Vaccination certificate for Ukrainian migrant workers? winked
        Where is the truth and where is the lie? But the conclusion, as it were, hung in the air with its uncertainty, which is worse than the bitter truth.
      2. bk316
        bk316 30 January 2018 17: 53 New
        +2
        But there is a flip side to the coin. The government is very fond of hiding meaningful things and clogging up the TV with the theme “everything is fine” or “what’s at the skins”.


        Looks like you don’t look. You didn’t post such demotivators otherwise.
        When they shot people in the CNN church with manic perseverance, they continued to air interviews with echsperds about Russia's interference in the US elections.
        1. Megatron
          Megatron 1 February 2018 00: 34 New
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          Honestly, I don’t look. And in the news compilation radio freedom often comes across - I close it right there.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 30 January 2018 06: 14 New
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    fakes are not just disinformation weapons. This is a special tool both in waging wars and in their initial unleashing.


    Alexey raised an interesting topic ... though he is not so new, just interested people seemed to have modernized this topic ... simply speaking, a fake is a market duck or rumors.
    The trouble was that they began to use it purposefully ... both in politics and in economics ... you need to drown a competitor in trade, write in the media and the Internet an article and back up some kind of creepy photo with high-quality photo montage ... now it's easy and you launch on the Internet from some little-known site well and then a matter of technology.
    Therefore, it is necessary to sift the GIG tons of such garbage to dig something worthwhile in the internet and the media.
    1. gaura
      gaura 1 February 2018 09: 10 New
      +1
      Therefore, it is necessary to sift the GIG tons of such garbage to dig something worthwhile in the internet and the media.

      This is sad. On the net you can find absolutely anything for your desires. Do you want to find confirmation of the presence of Russian troops in the Donbass, you want killer doctors in Kazakhstan, and you even want to believe in a flat Earth. At the same time, you will find just the opposite on other resources. There is simply no truth, you just don’t believe in anything. Except for the article about the rectangle, of course.
  3. andrewkor
    andrewkor 30 January 2018 07: 01 New
    +3
    I remember, as a child, in Barnaul, the beginning of the 60s, it was rumored that a certain gang caught children, released blood from them and donated them to hospitals for money! What is not a modern fake!
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 31 January 2018 00: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: andrewkor
      in Barnaul, the beginning of the 60s, it was rumored that a certain gang caught children, released blood from them and donated them to hospitals for money!

      Leningrad, 1985, May. True, a more “everyday” rumor was: they say, at the Stepan Razin plant (beer, kvass) the worker drunk fell into a fermentation vat for kvass, drowned and decomposed there ... wassat And, they say, the entire barrel kvass is poisoned. Now it would be called the machinations of competitors. yes
  4. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 30 January 2018 07: 04 New
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    A hundred times it is written, "fake" product of impunity. If you sue, conduct an investigation and identify those who “launch” and “distribute” “fakes” to the media, then journalists will think a hundred times about publishing unverified information. I already wrote that, for example, China, the Americans do not touch the media and not at all because they are economically connected with it, but because China contains a huge staff of American lawyers in the USA who ruthlessly persecute court for defamation of any smallest newspaper, if it publishes unverified or false facts about China. Russia needs to do the same and not get by with “apologies” in case of proof of publishing false information, but bring in millions of claims for “reputation and image losses” - believe, in the “West”, it is monetary losses that are the most powerful, “educational” means.
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 30 January 2018 07: 17 New
    +5
    All kinds of fakes appear more and more often, and this will continue until criminal liability is introduced for this, and the creators of fake information will not be publicly imprisoned for such messages.
  6. Humpty
    Humpty 30 January 2018 07: 22 New
    +5
    Once upon a time, an experiment with the “white brotherhood” was carried out in Ukraine (I wonder who?) And it fully confirmed the observations of a number of Soviet psychiatrists that sectarian thinking is very characteristic of people in Ukraine and Moldova. The fruits of sectarian thinking we now see.
    I hope that I will not insult the national feelings of the Kazakhs if I call a spade a spade. Maybe I imitate Abay today ?! And so, a characteristic feature of the Kazakhs (the Kyrgyz, too, but a little less) is the belief in the most ridiculous rumors. It is not at all necessary to spread lies through the network. It happened to them that the most ridiculous rumor invented by some inadequate population was picked up and dragged around the corners, through the houses, right up to the panic. It was necessary to attract not only the Ministry of Internal Affairs, to eliminate the consequences of rumors.
    Someone through the next stuffing confirmed the well-known. Rumors can really effectively influence the population of Kazakhstan.
    From Kazakhstan, IMHO is preparing a second Ukraine with Turanian features.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 30 January 2018 07: 53 New
      +5
      hi Hi Sasha!
      Looks like the cold drove you home, since VO showed up laughing
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 30 January 2018 12: 38 New
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        It’s violet to me, by the way, it’s even warmer by day than in the city. At night it was true - 33 was. But he chased away the clients. hi
    2. Siban
      Siban 30 January 2018 09: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Humpty
      And so, a characteristic feature of the Kazakhs (the Kyrgyz, but also a little less) is the belief in the most ridiculous rumors
      Yeah sweet "officer daughter"laughing I’ll tell you more about the uncharacteristic features of the Russians .. When the famous events took place in the Wild West in 2011, a bus burned out in one glorious northern city inhabited mainly by the Slavic population. Before he had burned out, rumors began to spread among the "uncharacteristic" at the speed of a steppe fire. "It was the natives who burned the bus. wassat "," They will cut the Nords belay“In general, half of the“ non-titular ”cities spent a sleepless night waiting for the inevitable pogrom from the violent“ Kyrgyz-Kaisaks. ”True, most of the“ pogromists ”peacefully slept in their homes and did not even know about such glorious exploits that they alas request never did ..
      And the next day, many fair-haired boys and girls did not go to kindergartens and schools, because the nomadic people would certainly have to raid the mektebs and balabakshas, ​​in search of Slavic children .. fool
      Subsequently, some Great Russians were, of course, ashamed .. but the old Shaltais who were talking, this certainly does not apply .. But what remains old is not to "carry empty bullshit .."
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 30 January 2018 12: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Siban
        Subsequently, some Great Russians were, of course, ashamed ... but this certainly does not concern the old Shaltais who are the Boltai.

        It is not a matter of age, not a hint of a politician, not knowledge of languages, but of a village, 3 road signs point to it all pointing in different directions. And I don’t live there, only often travel. Nabis.
        1. Siban
          Siban 30 January 2018 20: 26 New
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          Quote: Humpty
          It's not about age, not a hint of a politician, not knowledge of languages
          The fact is that I am not building unnecessary illusions and how a Kazakh can give many more such stories, an example of which you give.
          But you are linking them to the Kyrgyz and Kazakhs over and over again. Every time, do not miss the chance to throw it on the fan. But the fact that you still safely live among the Kyrgyz is the most powerful evidence against your sketches. After all, according to your own words, then you had to lie long ago with a broken skull in the nearest canal ..
          But no, you calmly blaspheme the land, and those people where you live yourself .. and for some reason you don’t leave for "One and indivisible"request May you leave these arrogant and incomprehensible Mongoloid "faces"good?! And do not spoil your nerves again .. yes
          Ali on “Vaterland” nobody needs you, and this is actually the real reason for your body movements ..laughing?!
      2. already a Muscovite
        already a Muscovite 31 January 2018 09: 31 New
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        ABOUT!! You again ? The chauvinist is a sibanyuga ...
        Quote: Siban
        in one glorious northern city populated by a predominantly Slavic population, a bus burned out


        Quote: Siban
        In general, half a city of "non-title"

        Uh ... Where are the others ?? After all, the city with
        Quote: Siban
        mainly Slavic population

        I’ve probably eaten ... wassat
        Quote: Siban
        spent a sleepless night waiting for the inevitable pogrom from the frantic "Kyrgyz-Kaisaks"

        And before that, apparently frantic "Kyrgyz-kaisaki" on pink ponies, having forgotten the barytma, handed out to brown boys and girls, cakes and baklava ?? Is this supposedly a "bloody libel on the poor nomadic"? In general, these "non-title" ones have fallen off hands; they do not believe the good and good "title ones". laughing
        1. Siban
          Siban 31 January 2018 09: 38 New
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          Quote: already a Muscovite
          ABOUT!! You again ?
          Me again drinks
          Quote: already a Muscovite
          Uh ... Where are the others ?? After all, the city with
          Well, here I want to know where the rest are request After all, the city ?!
          Quote: already a Muscovite
          I’ve probably eaten ...
          Yeah, and washed down koumiss good
          Quote: already a Muscovite
          cakes and baklava?
          Kaka-taka baklava angry baursaki-beshbarmaki tongue
          Quote: already a Muscovite
          In general, these "non-title" hands have fallen off
          "You ain't tried it yes ma'am "(c)
          1. already a Muscovite
            already a Muscovite 31 January 2018 10: 46 New
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            Quote: Siban
            Me again

            Kunaev is still a Tatar ... ahahah ... laughing
            Quote: Siban
            Well, here I want to know where the rest are. After all, the city ?!

            Why do you need to know ?? And so only the half of the city is left ... in short, I will not say, at least torture me with the most beautiful Kazakh women, at least feed me with the most delicious Naryn, at least give me a jeep .... I still will not say ... bully
            Quote: Siban
            Yeah, and washed down koumiss

            I thought you were the Cannibals, and you also turned out to be cannibals ... the main thing is that no cannibals ...
            Quote: Siban
            baursaki-beshbarmaki

            Okay boortsogi, but beshbarmak ?? which is ... Yes you are flayer ...
            Quote: Siban
            "You ain't tried ma'am" (c)

            Yes, they tried ... so they walk and run away in a wave ... the worst thing is when they do not run away waved ... soldier
            1. Siban
              Siban 31 January 2018 12: 03 New
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              Quote: already a Muscovite
              Kunaev is still a Tatar ...
              Sparta: "If Alexander considers himself a god, then let him consider himself a god." If a Muscovite already considers Kunaev to be Tatar, then let him think ... from this he will not cease to be a Kazakh ..
              Quote: already a Muscovite
              even torture me with the most beautiful Kazakh women
              What are you Kazakh women laughing all the more beautiful .. Enough of you pig .. love
              Quote: already a Muscovite
              the main thing is that no kunibaly ...
              "Monsieur knows a lot about perversions" (c) hi
              Quote: already a Muscovite
              Yes, they tried ... so they walk and run away in a wave ... the worst thing is when they do not run away waved ...
              As for "Ma'am", there are no questions .. repeat
              1. already a Muscovite
                already a Muscovite 31 January 2018 16: 41 New
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                Quote: Siban
                Muscovite considers Kunaev Tatar

                In our ranks the elbasy itself. Who are you against elbasy ??

                Quote: Siban
                What kind of Kazakh women are you all the more beautiful .. Enough for you pig ..

                So yes ... Where are you beautiful? only shoshki-parasit ... honorable horse breeders switched to pork laughing
                Quote: Siban
                "Monsieur knows a lot about perversions" (c)

                So the Kazakh cinema in the XXX category is gaining popularity ... lol

                Quote: Siban
                About the "ma'am"

                what else is "Ma'am" ... ahaha .... imagined your little bibishka (or I don’t remember the bikesh, and \\) in a dress for a waltz, and you grimy, in a tuxedo ... phew. .. Well, you ran with a spear or a bark and ran ... And then “ma'am”, “sir”, “Thames”, “French roll” ... ahahaha ... laughing the cyanist ...
                1. Siban
                  Siban 31 January 2018 23: 29 New
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                  Quote: already a Muscovite
                  In our ranks the elbasy itself.
                  In the chamber №6 wassat
                  Quote: already a Muscovite
                  only shoshka-parasit ..
                  Prefer the porkrepeat That is understandable russisch schwein ..
                  Quote: already a Muscovite
                  So the Kazakh cinema in the XXX category is gaining popularity ...
                  Filmed you .. crying?!

                  Quote: already a Muscovite
                  what else is "Ma'am" ... ahaha .... imagined your little bibishka (or I don’t remember the bikesh, and \\) in a dress for a waltz, and you grimy, in a tuxedo ... phew. .. Well, you ran with a spear or a bark and ran ... And then "ma'am", "sir", "Thames", "French bun" ... ahahaha ... a sibanist ...
                  Cho smoke fellow ?!
                  1. already a Muscovite
                    already a Muscovite 1 February 2018 12: 18 New
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                    Quote: Siban
                    Filmed

                    Sibanyuk ... ahaha ... you Kazakh g ay s \ ex with a donkey ... Sen kandai, damn it, Shiban? ... ahahaha ... shiban khan, al sen shegin ... sen sol mandavoshka ... kal bit sen boldy orys .... ahahahaha .... I graduated from school in Erdenet .... Sibanishvili ...
                    Sibanyan you shibanul ?? Kaz cinema, like everything in your Disneyland, is completely chauvinistic ... Everything is from one zhuz, clan, family with a pure pedigree ..... ahahaha ... I still have ridiculous your fictional SHOZHER ... ... ahahaha ... So that Sibanishvili, if mother bet appeared, where is the whole grimy family / Cosa Nostra ....
                    So they shot your Sibanushka ... or Sibanashka ... ahahaha, ... and then you had a Sibanushka ... or not born ... I still hope that there is God ...
                    Quote: Siban
                    Cho smoke ?!

                    You do not grow this.
                    1. Siban
                      Siban 1 February 2018 13: 09 New
                      +1
                      Quote: already a Muscovite
                      You don't grow this
                      Of course we don’t grow it. laughing Your brains are boiling nobly, however .. wink
                      Quote: already a Muscovite
                      Sibanyuk ... ahaha ... you Kazakh g ay s \ ex with a donkey ... Sen kandai, damn it, Shiban? ... ahahaha ... shiban khan, al sen shegin ... sen sol mandavoshka ... kal bit sen boldy orys .... ahahahaha .... I graduated from school in Erdenet .... Sibanishvili ...
                      Hawthorn?! drinks
                      1. turbris
                        turbris 1 February 2018 14: 20 New
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                        I think I just got a cigarette, where do they get hawthorn from there?
    3. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 30 January 2018 11: 11 New
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      And so, a characteristic feature of the Kazakhs (the Kyrgyz, too, but a little less) is the belief in the most ridiculous rumors.

      Well, in fairness, this is not only about them. From the simplest thing, a rumor was launched in our Smolensk about 3-4 years ago that salt would disappear from the sale. Reached almost to fights in shops. The following year was repeated with the same success. Well, probably everyone knows about buckwheat.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 30 January 2018 12: 34 New
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        Quote: Bulrumeb
        in our Smolensk about 3-4 years ago they started a rumor that salt would disappear from the sale. Reached almost to fights in shops.

        I’m not trying to say that Russians or anyone else is not subject to rumors. Nevertheless, it is difficult to find a person among the Russians who would argue that a sump with chemicals spills up 400 meters over the pass and will poison everyone, or that Atambayev sold ice from glaciers to Turkey, because there is little water in the rivers. Etc . pages on 500.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 30 January 2018 12: 46 New
          +6
          Quote: Humpty
          a sump with chemicals will spill up the slopes with a difference of 400 meters through the pass and poison everyone

          laughing But at the same time, you must admit, the sources of the rumors didn’t cut cabbage badly !!!
          You're right, the absurd rumor is, the more they believe him especially in Asia ...
        2. Alex_59
          Alex_59 30 January 2018 13: 12 New
          +4
          Quote: Humpty
          Nevertheless, it is difficult to find a person among the Russians who would argue that a chemical sump will spill up the slopes with a difference of 400 meters through the pass and poison everyone, or that Atambayev sold ice from glaciers to Turkey, because there is little water in the rivers. Etc . pages on 500.

          I think this is not a matter of nationality, but of social conditions and personal predisposition.
          In 90 many people charged basins with water from the TV or listened to Kashpirovsky and they felt better. This is a clear social network.
          And my mother-in-law, who has lived half her life in Severodvinsk, still believes that when a nuclear submarine enters the port, fish and birds die from radiation, and people are also irradiated. Adult. Some aunts told her. And the fact that the husband works at the factory and repairs these boats does not look like a zombie after 10 years of working with them - nifiga is not an argument. This is clearly a personal predisposition.
          In Perm, when a Boeing and Troshev crashed, half of the city believed that it had been shot down from MANPADS with the expectation that it would fall at an oil refinery, which would explode and destroy a million-strong city. Here, in addition to social programs, there is also a lack of knowledge in physics and technology. And FIGs argue them. They know better! And the authorities are hiding it!
  7. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 30 January 2018 08: 37 New
    +4
    Fake fakes, but why in Ukraine did measles even get vaccinated with measles? Here, after all, it clearly smells like an altered strain. Outbreaks of atypical pathogens again. And the virological "research" centers that Americans have already set up in the former Soviet republics seem to have nothing to do with it ...
    1. avt
      avt 30 January 2018 13: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: g1washntwn
      Here, after all, it clearly smells like an altered strain.

      Or purchased with budgetary money, rotten, expired vaccine.
      Quote: g1washntwn
      And the virological "research" centers that Americans have already set up in the former Soviet republics seem to have nothing to do with it ...

      Maybe in business. But then the scale and consequences would be an order of magnitude higher. However, Az a sinner has no reliable data for a more or less competent conclusion.
    2. Antares
      Antares 30 January 2018 23: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: g1washntwn
      Even measles vaccinated started to get measles in Ukraine

      The main reason for measles outbreaks is low vaccination coverage. The majority of cases - over 86% - are people who were not fully protected by vaccination (with two doses of the measles, rubella and mumps vaccine PDA vaccine)
      we regularly vaccinate children according to the instructions of the pediatrician, or as it is now, universal vaccination. But there are "mothers" who read on the Internet, do not vaccinate and do not advise others. House rights (50 dollars for the vaccine are cheaper than a grave)
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 31 January 2018 07: 14 New
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        I mean that a natural mutation of the pathogen of the viral type (meaning a viable strain comparable to new strains of the H1N1 type), according to the calculations of virologists, occurs once every wild number of years. Influenza is the most mobile and plastic, but! Without going into the mutational mechanism and all sorts of genomes, I certainly understand that the environment for viruses has become more favorable (crowding, environment, etc. factors), but not to the same extent that every year 1-1 new pandemic strains appear in the natural environment.
        So, all virological centers supposedly built up with sponsors ’funds, if they are not involved in the explicit breeding of new strains, then their indirect participation in such work can be considered a priori.
  8. Boris55
    Boris55 30 January 2018 08: 45 New
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    You don’t need a knife for a fool - You’re lying to him from three boxes And do what you like with him!
    To combat fakes, there is only one way - to increase managerial literacy. As at the beginning of the last century there was an acute issue of the fight against universal illiteracy, so today the issue of the struggle against universal is equally acute managerial illiteracy. Any word, written or spoken, is management. Everyone must have at least minimal management knowledge.
  9. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 30 January 2018 11: 06 New
    +1
    The informational (or rather, disinformational) flow took on very impressive forms. It got to fouling with additional “nuances” from the series - “now it will be even worse”. The situation had to comment on the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Kazakhstan.

    What Kazakhs like about me is that they try to identify the distributors of fake news and videos and take them to the nail
  10. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 30 January 2018 12: 40 New
    +1
    Is it safe, for example, for children to do all the necessary vaccinations
    Are some vaccinations necessary? For example, the spread of poliomyelitis is limited to several countries in Southeast and Central Asia, and 96% of children under 7 years old are sick. What is the need to vaccinate children insecurely with us, and even after 7 years?
    The flu vaccine is generally absurd - the vaccine protects the mot of 2-3 strains of flu, and there are more than 150 of them. And the vaccine works ONLY if it is done two weeks before the epidemic. How can you find out in two weeks which strain will cause an epidemic? belay
    BCG - sick and vaccinated, tuberculosis is a very social disease. And vaccination is one of the champions in the number of complications. The same goes for DTP. I personally know people in whom a child has become a vegetable for life after DTP. So I do not vaccinate children, and children grow up ABSOLUTELY healthy (only naughty laughing )
    Only doctors gag horror stories that await the unvaccinated. But I remember the story of one director of a polyclinic somewhere beyond the Urals, which gave children an unverified vaccination of some French corporation for a bribe.
    So for the most part I agree. okromya vaccinations. hi
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 30 January 2018 14: 54 New
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      Quote: Ingvar 72
      tuberculosis is a very social disease.

      Unfortunately, tuberculosis has not been a disease of slums for a long time, people of all social strata suffer from it.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 January 2018 20: 00 New
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        Quote: Humpty
        they are ill people of all social classes

        Have you seen consumptive oligarchs? belay
    2. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 30 January 2018 15: 14 New
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      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Are some vaccinations necessary? ... The flu vaccine is generally absurd - the vaccine protects the 2-3 flu strain, and in all there are more than 150-ty ...
      BCG - sick and vaccinated, tuberculosis is a very social disease. And vaccination is one of the champions in the number of complications. The same goes for DTP. I personally know people in whom a child has become a vegetable for life after DTP.

      I completely agree. Having rosehips and garlic in the bins (you can expand the list of effective, proven for centuries plants) no influenza virus is not terrible. And getting vaccinated with imported products is generally the height of insanity!
  11. turbris
    turbris 30 January 2018 14: 38 New
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    Recently, the media, including the Internet, have gained a lot of power, with a minimum of responsibility for published fakes. Everyone is seeing how CNN’s war with Trump is happening and this is harmful not only in the United States, but throughout the world. The same bacchanalia begins in Russia too, state-subsidized "opposition" media produce fakes, which are later refuted by the state, but the trick is that these refutations are no longer interesting to anyone. It is necessary to tighten the responsibility of the media for the accuracy of published information, and there is no need to be afraid of any critics of violating democracy. The correspondent lied, the editor released this information without checking its reliability - get a huge fine or dismissal with a ban on further activities in the media. I repeated this - such a media should be closed, the Internet should also not be irresponsible in the distribution of fakes - lies at all times were punished and now there should be no exceptions.
  12. kush62
    kush62 30 January 2018 18: 17 New
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    Another example of a fairly survivable fake in recent years: the Ministry of Defense is supposedly about to increase the service life of conscription

    In the 80s, we have already gone through this. Tales were told to each subsequent call that they had a "Lenin call" and they would serve in the army not 2, but 3 years. What a longing was in their eyes laughing laughing laughing
    1. Ponchik78
      Ponchik78 30 January 2018 19: 27 New
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      This is an army tradition))) I served in the mid-90s. They told us that the service life will soon be increased from 2 to 2.8 years. Why exactly 2.8 I don’t even know. In general, they said that soon it will be so. We also spoke to our spirits later)))
      1. kush62
        kush62 30 January 2018 20: 02 New
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        Ponchik78 Today, 19:27 ↑
        This is an army tradition))) I served in the mid-90s. They told us that the service life will soon be increased from 2 to 2.8 years. Why exactly 2.8 I don’t even know. In general, they said that soon it will be so. We also spoke to our spirits later)))

        and so myths are passed down from generation to generation laughing
  13. certero
    certero 31 January 2018 00: 46 New
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    Quote: Antianglosaks
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Are some vaccinations necessary? ... The flu vaccine is generally absurd - the vaccine protects the 2-3 flu strain, and in all there are more than 150-ty ...
    BCG - sick and vaccinated, tuberculosis is a very social disease. And vaccination is one of the champions in the number of complications. The same goes for DTP. I personally know people in whom a child has become a vegetable for life after DTP.

    I completely agree. Having rosehips and garlic in the bins (you can expand the list of effective, proven for centuries plants) no influenza virus is not terrible. And getting vaccinated with imported products is generally the height of insanity!

    The height of insanity is to take your words seriously.
    Reading such comments I really regret that the cons were canceled.
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 31 January 2018 07: 35 New
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      Administrative responsibility should be introduced for violation of the quarantine regime, and if it has not yet been vaccinated with a more significant form to the violator. But! at the same time, state-controlled employers, otherwise the people will run and run in snot and temperature to work, spreading bacilli.
      Now it’s like: I got sick, but it’s unprofitable to go to the hospital, you lose very heavily. But it is necessary on the contrary, to get sick and go to work was more expensive than going to sick leave and the employer should be interested in this first of all. How many snotty workers work with temperature? We offer vaccination at the enterprise, but when leaving for a hospital award, they cut to zero, "effective managers" to burn the team’s health would be met.