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"Helmets fall on the go": in Kiev, they criticized the state of ambulance vehicles

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Half of the Bogdan-2251 ambulances delivered to the positions of the Ukrainian army in the Donbass had to be repaired or returned to the factory. This was reported by Valentina Varava, a member of the Council of Volunteers at the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, on the air of the Public Radio.


She explained that out of the 50 machines supplied, five cars were repaired at the site by an on-site team, 17 was sent to repair points, and in three others found a manufacturing defect.

"Helmets fall on the go": in Kiev, they criticized the state of ambulance vehicles


Of the 50 vehicles that were delivered to the front (now there are 45 cars), already 20 vehicles were under repair. This is despite the fact that cars that ran over 10 000 kilometers, units. 5 vehicles were repaired at the site by an on-site brigade. Of those 20 cars that were under repair, three are factory defects, they are returned. 17 cars have been repaired, 10 has already been returned to military units, 7 is still under maintenance, of which 2, as they say, is ready
- the volunteer told.

She also added that doctors do not want to use this car, because it is shaking too much and is very unstable.

During one of the last evacuations by Bogdan, bronics and hard hats fell out on the move, because the doors opened. There are also huge problems with the fuel system, which should have water capacity sensors, but they are not
- added a volunteer.

According to the state defense order, 100 vehicles were transferred to the Ministry of Defense. Now APU took half.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 29 January 2018 16: 10 New
    +6
    Half of the Bogdan-2251 ambulances delivered to the positions of the Ukrainian army in the Donbass had to be repaired or returned to the factory.
    Thanks PERSONALLY to Mr. Poroshenko for such "excellent" cars. That's what this volunteer forgot to add
    During one of the last evacuations by Bogdan, broniks and helmets fell out on the go, because the doors were opening.
    Buy latches from Nizhny Tagil using the SELF-DELIVERY method ... and your lockers will be closed securely.
    There are also huge problems with the fuel system, which should have water capacity sensors, but none
    Lord ... what about selling fuel with such sensors .... no, they are definitely not needed.
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 29 January 2018 16: 24 New
      +2
      It is difficult to call such machines even consumer goods, in a word - trash.
      1. svp67
        svp67 29 January 2018 16: 33 New
        +4
        Quote: Thought Giant
        It is difficult to call such machines even consumer goods, in a word - trash.

        In fact, this is a very good "Chinese" Great Wall Wingle 5, which the engineers from Poroshenko took as a basis. Well, and then it turned out - what happened, they wanted something better ...
        And honestly, I still don’t understand where those lockers from which armor caps and helmets fall out on the go
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 29 January 2018 16: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          And honestly, I still don’t understand where those lockers from which armor caps and helmets fall out on the go

          The pepelats himself is one big locker, and they fell out of it. You have to look outside, not inside. laughing
          1. Pharao7766
            Pharao7766 29 January 2018 16: 59 New
            0
            In the photo, the cars in GOODRY are shod ....
            I wonder how much that rubber stood before its expropriation in the honest hands of the lads laughing
        2. svd-xnumx
          svd-xnumx 29 January 2018 20: 51 New
          +1
          And honestly, I still don’t understand where those lockers from which armor caps and helmets fall out on the go
          Well, in the photo and the version of the car is for journalists, while others are adapted to transfer reinforcements and ammunition to the front line under the guise of the Red Cross. But the painful ones even burned in their statements, the smart one would say about medications or there are stretchers, and then armored cars and helmets. For nonhumans there is nothing sacred (although this is an exaggeration in relation to the Red Cross), ambulance helicopters for combat operations have already been prepared
          Ukrainian hackers posted documents on social networks testifying to the "epicail" of the propaganda machine of the APU.

          On December 28, TSN Ukrainian TV channel released a story about the military aviation exercises of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the ATO zone, which has an interesting point - helicopters marked as ambulances are involved in the exercises.

          And these helicopters are used, in particular, in order to safely transport, under the guise of a noble medical mission, the ATO commander Mikhail Zabrodsky and his deputy, as well as to strike at the territories of the Republic of Donbass.

          By the way, this fact clearly shows the attitude of the Ukrainian military leadership to their own soldiers - this ambulance helicopter might be needed for the urgent evacuation of wounded soldiers, but instead was used to conduct Zabrodsky's PR action. Obviously, the "big shoulder straps" do not give a damn about it - the wounded will somehow interrupt.

          The military, knowing how much they violate international conventions, forced journalists to hide the Red Cross badges, but, as is usually the case in Ukraine, media workers did it extremely poorly.

          As a result, the outrageous fact became public and the commander of the ATO Zabrodsky, realizing that the violation had been revealed, turned to the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine V. Muzhenko with a proposal to tighten the procedure for the work of journalists in the ATO zone, punish those guilty, as well as strengthen the censorship of reports from combat zones. [media =
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      2. vlad66
        vlad66 29 January 2018 19: 58 New
        +6
        Quote: Giant thought
        It is difficult to call such machines even consumer goods, in a word - trash.

        But Poroshenko satisfied. Earned a bubble. laughing
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 29 January 2018 17: 19 New
      0
      If Ukraine decided to clean up the Donbass, then you need to do more corps trucks for the APU. belay
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 29 January 2018 18: 44 New
      +3
      Sergey, are you talking about these latches?

      I can’t understand about water capacity sensors. Capacity to where?
      1. svp67
        svp67 29 January 2018 18: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: sabakina
        Sergey, are you talking about these latches?

        Well, and about which ones ... Tagil is the birthplace of the RUSSIAN latch ...
        Quote: sabakina
        I can’t understand about water capacity sensors. Capacity to where?

        There are LOTS of options - a coolant level sensor, a water level sensor in a fuel tank, a water level sensor in a fuel ....
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 29 January 2018 19: 00 New
          +3
          Thank you Sergey, there the people explained below what kind of sensor. In the article, the name confused him.
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 29 January 2018 16: 11 New
    +3
    Incorrect assembly! With proper assembly, the machine should completely crumble on the first bump! lol There is still work to do! lol
  3. taiga2018
    taiga2018 29 January 2018 16: 15 New
    +3
    even in appearance, such machines can hardly be called sanitary, rather, it looks like a hearse ...
  4. bankirchik34
    bankirchik34 29 January 2018 16: 27 New
    0
    separatist, by golly, the miracle of the domestic auto industry so blaspheme, chasing her)
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 29 January 2018 16: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: bankirchik34
      separatist, by golly, the miracle of the domestic auto industry so blaspheme, chasing her)

      YYYY
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 29 January 2018 18: 49 New
        +2
        And what? You try to "shove" convicts and convoy at the "Bogdan" at the same time!
      2. svp67
        svp67 29 January 2018 19: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: Gray Brother
        YYYY

        Find 10 differences ...
  5. Shaitan_by
    Shaitan_by 29 January 2018 16: 42 New
    +1
    Wedding in Robin. Papandopol talks about machine guns.
  6. cniza
    cniza 29 January 2018 16: 56 New
    +2
    There are also huge problems with the fuel system, which should have water capacity sensors, but none


    I understood correctly, they work on water. wassat
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 29 January 2018 17: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: cniza
      I understood correctly, they work on water.

      No, it’s just that on some engines (usually diesel) they install separator filters, i.e. in them there is such a flask in which water is separated from the fuel, the water is heavier and falls down, but the fuel remains on top and the fuel pump takes it from there.
      Water gradually accumulates there and therefore a simple sensor is placed there, having reached a certain level, the water closes the contacts and the signal lamp on the dashboard lights up, which means that water needs to be drained from the bulb.
      If the sensor is not installed, then you need to look with your eyes.
      1. foreman
        foreman 29 January 2018 18: 36 New
        +1
        filter sump, only complicated everything
      2. Nimitz
        Nimitz 29 January 2018 19: 26 New
        0
        There is a Great Wall 4D20 diesel engine (2,0 l, 143 hp, 305 Nm).
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 29 January 2018 19: 33 New
          0
          Quote: Nimitz
          There is a Great Wall 4D20 diesel engine (2,0 l, 143 hp, 305 Nm).

          Which engine is of no particular importance. Such filters, on an arm, are attached to any free place.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 29 January 2018 18: 56 New
      +3
      Vitya, hi , I always said, better than a "loaf" mankind has not yet come up with anything.
      1. cniza
        cniza 29 January 2018 20: 12 New
        +1
        Vyacheslav hi , I have no doubt, this is recognized by Western connoisseurs of technology.
      2. renics
        renics 29 January 2018 21: 20 New
        +1
        Are you sure? There is an ambulance car Toros UAZ plant.
  7. Runoway
    Runoway 29 January 2018 17: 27 New
    0
    Even though infa about the APU technique, so the photo of ambulances, is there absolutely no faith in victory?
  8. Dormidont
    Dormidont 29 January 2018 17: 48 New
    +3
    Perfect carriages
  9. faiver
    faiver 29 January 2018 18: 15 New
    0
    to take the simplest Chinese pickup truck and demand the quality of a Volvo or a Mercedes from it?
  10. Dedall
    Dedall 29 January 2018 18: 32 New
    +1
    Before my pension, we received our UAZ and almost immediately the gearshift knob broke.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 29 January 2018 18: 55 New
      +3
      Well, if under Putin the handle fell off the door .... In 1993, I received 461 in Ulyanovsk. The flange on which the release bearing runs is not twisted there. 1000 kilometers rode with "music".
  11. foreman
    foreman 29 January 2018 18: 33 New
    +1
    the helmet fell let them dress the pan !!!
  12. Kerensky
    Kerensky 29 January 2018 18: 53 New
    +1
    Doctors do not want to use this car, because it shakes too much and is very unstable.

    And the 300s too: Fu! What a bucket ?! I won’t go on this one!
    1. svp67
      svp67 29 January 2018 18: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: Kerensky
      And the 300s too: Fu! What a bucket ?! I won’t go on this one!

      Of course, you won’t be offered this ... You will be offered an UNLIMITED "Loaf" ...
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 29 January 2018 23: 28 New
        +1
        So she will pull it out. And then ... Well, you can do it fine. Or is it all the handshakes ?! I was pulled out by both a guard and a motor-league - I don’t remember anything. It was probably ok .....
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 29 January 2018 19: 03 New
    +1
    The normal situation, I assumed that all 100% will be sent for revision.
    Everything is very simple, modernization of such equipment and repairs are again a state order (the guarantee is for the pioneers of a fairy tale) Someone will not get money there, and Poroshenko’s plant will always be with finances and orders, so BINGO!
  14. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 29 January 2018 19: 21 New
    0
    She also added that doctors do not want to use this car, because it is shaking too much and is very unstable.
    During one of the last evacuations by Bogdan, bronics and hard hats fell out on the move, because the doors opened. There are also huge problems with the fuel system, which should have water capacity sensors, but they are not

    Everything is simple. There is more asphalt to the front line and Bogdan will behave like Bronislava.
    1. helmi8
      helmi8 29 January 2018 22: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      During one of the last evacuations by Bogdan, bronics and hard hats fell out on the move, because the doors opened. There are also huge problems with the fuel system, which should have water capacity sensors, but they are not
      Everything is simple. There is more asphalt to the front line and Bogdan will behave like Bronislava.

      Just right after loading you need to brew the door - and no problem! All safe and sound.
  15. renics
    renics 29 January 2018 21: 09 New
    0
    Belgian ambulance M-113 G-3, American-made.

    http://putnikost.gorod.tomsk.ru/index-1277392038.
    php
  16. LeonidL
    LeonidL 30 January 2018 07: 56 New
    0
    In general, the design resembles the ambulances of the Second World ... the geniuses of the peasant thought can not be seen further