The Ministry of Defense will provide its civil servants with hats and caps

The Russian military department intends to provide its civil servants with fur hats and women's hats, reports RIA News with reference to the draft order of the Minister of Defense.

The planned date of entry into force of the order is March. The order must approve the norms for the supply of articles of clothing.

The document amends the annex to the 595 th order of the Minister of Defense of 2015, “On the approval of the norm for the supply of articles of clothing of the federal civil servants of the Ministry of Defense.”

According to the draft, the federal civil servants of the Ministry of Defense will be issued a “fur hat, fur hat, dress hat, casual hat, shoes or boots”.

A cap with earflaps is introduced into the supply in addition to the everyday cap, and the “earless” fur cap is introduced into the everyday cap. As for everyday and ceremonial hats, they will get them instead of women’s hats.

“The uniform of the federal civil servants of the Russian defense ministry is almost the same as for the military. The insignia of civilian personnel with ranks of ranks is silver. The soldiers (with the exception of wearable on camouflage field uniform) - golden. Free provision of overalls to employees of the Armed Forces of Russia without class officials is not provided for, ”explains the publication.

Comments

[ul_vitalii]

Well, they would go in a civilian, there is nothing to cast a shadow on the wattle fence.

[Giant thought]

Class ranks, for which free uniforms are provided, provide for high positions, and ordinary employees - cooks, cleaners, storekeepers, etc. they will not have this.

[svp67]

Quote: ul_vitalii

Well, they would go in a civilian, there is nothing to cast a shadow on the wattle fence.

Yes, what are you? How is this “federal employee” still going to spend his money on it? Are you not getting money for this ...
It would be better to introduce a work uniform for all CIVIL STAFF. And then people who get 15 for their work, somehow they don’t understand those who have at least four zeros in their payroll .... and get a working uniform

[ul_vitalii]

But these are accountants and financiers, what a heightened attention to the corruption link.

[svp67]

Quote: ul_vitalii

But these are accountants and financiers, what a heightened attention to the corruption link.

Well, not quite...
For example, Borisov Yuri Ivanovich, Deputy Minister of Defense - He’s a GP, a federal GP, with the rank of real state adviser to the Russian Federation of the 1st class. Responsible for weapons and communications with the military-industrial complex.

[ul_vitalii]

Borisov, yes, yes, I agree with both the academic rhombus and the length of service on the bars, your own.

[svp67]

Quote: ul_vitalii

Borisov, yes, yes, I agree with both the academic rhombus and the length of service on the bars, your own.

But now he is also CIVIL STAFF

[Flyer_64]

no, he is a state civil servant, blue blood, and civilian personnel is like the mob they only pay in the minimum wage.

[Doliva63]

Yes, and the "cadet" yet.

[Flyer_64]

like he took off some shoulder straps, put on others, he never took off his uniform. Almost an army gene.

[your1970]

Quote: svp67

Yes, what are you? How is this “federal employee” still going to spend his money on it? Are you not getting money for this ...

-that is, you do not know what the number of non-military personnel of the armed forces of the Russian Federation is ???
“On November 17, 2017, President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin signed Decree No. 555“ On the Establishment of the Staff Number of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation ”, which determines the strength of the Russian Armed Forces in (1) 902 758 units, including (1) 013 628 military personnel. The decree comes into force on January 1, 2018 "- total 910 000 NOT military (almost half the army) ...
and if you think that the word “federal” means that this person works in Moscow at a position not lower than deputy minister, then you are mistaken. For example, offhand the list of state civil servants

Quote: ul_vitalii

But these are accountants and financiers, what a heightened attention to the corruption link.

- and there not only they, but also pay attention to the formula-"all posts"
"II. Positions of the federal state civil service \
5. In the central office of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
Head of Department, Deputy Head of the Department (Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, High Command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in the Department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in the main department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation);
department head, deputy department head (in the department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in the main department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in the department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in the main department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in the main command of the type of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in command of the branch of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in the department of the main directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in the department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in the department of the main department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in the department of the main command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in the department of the command of the clan troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation);
referent;
Head of the representative office of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (for organizing and conducting military memorial work abroad).
6. In separate central bodies of military administration:
a) all positions in the Main Directorate of Control and Oversight Activities of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Organizational and Inspection Department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Control and Financial Inspection of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Department of Armaments of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the provision of state defense the order, the Department of Audit of State Contracts of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Department of Public Procurement of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Department of Housing of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Department of Claims and Judicial Work of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, State Expertise of the Ministry Defense of the Russian Federation, the Main Directorate of Personnel of the Ministry of Defense of Russia Federation, Department of Financial Planning of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Department of Financial Monitoring of the State Defense Order of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Department of Social Guarantees of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Department of Financial Support of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation;
b) all posts, with the exception of the position “senior specialist of the 1st category of the organizational and planning group”, in the Office of State Supervision of Nuclear and Radiation Safety of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation;
c) 12 Main Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
chief specialist-expert of the department (for work with personnel);
chief specialist-expert of 3 departments of 6 management;
d) all posts, with the exception of the posts of the department (for work with veterans of the Armed Forces) of the department (state-patriotic education) and the department (of information support) of the department (cultural and leisure work), in the Main Directorate for Work with Personnel of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation ;
e) Headquarters of material and technical support of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation:
consultant of the department of (management of clothing property) management (clothing);
all positions in the department (support of state contracts for resource provision);
f) the Department of Transport Support of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - a leading adviser and adviser to the department (preparing proposals for the state defense order and the State armament program, preparing state contracts). "

[svp67]

Quote: your1970

and if you think that the word "federal" means that this person works in Moscow

You know, but the list you provide clearly shows that these people work either in Moscow or St. Petersburg,

[Elephant]

In reality, this is disgrace and embezzlement of state money. On the country's defenses, MO officials, whether in hats or without hats - no difference! In general, from fur hats, good insoles for shoes are obtained ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Elephant

In reality, this is disgrace and embezzlement of state money.

And what can you say about CIVIL civil servants of the Russian army (technicians, mechanics, locksmiths ...)? Or are they also ranked by you as snickering officials? I am frenzied by commentators who have declined from service and are trying to talk about the structure of the army. For you, the army consists only of the generals and officials attached to the Moscow Region.

[Flyer_64]

This is all coming from Shoigu. He also broke the status of employees in the Ministry of Emergencies.

[Piramidon]

Quote: ul_vitalii

Well, they would go in a civilian, there is nothing to cast a shadow on the wattle fence.

If you have not encountered this, then your comment is the reasoning of the amateur. After being dismissed from the ranks of the SA, I still worked as an official in the Republic of Armenia as a routine maintenance mechanic in the TEC of the aviation division. I was given a full set of workwear mechanics urgent service. And I somehow did not want to fill my civilian jeans and sheepskin coats with oil and kerosene.

[Flyer_64]

We are talking about an office uniform, i.e. a uniform for everyday activities, and not a special uniform for working on equipment and objects. And by the way, now special clothes for Gr. Staff do not give the first category, give only the second, in any case in our region.

[Stoler]

But how will the owners of the “knitwear” earn? They have something to starve !! ???

[BAI]

Employees in the rank of general decided to save on clothing at public expense.

[Evdokim]

Quote: BAI

Employees in the rank of general decided to save on clothing at public expense.

For free and sweet vinegar.

[Altona]

In general, it’s time to form the hat-making troops (ShZV) and the sofa-patriotic troops (DPV).

[vlad66]

Quote: Altona

In general, it’s time to form the hat-making troops (ShZV) and the sofa-patriotic troops (DPV).

Eugene They have long been formed and are beating hats on VO and other resources as much as the whistle is in the internet.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Altona

In general, it’s time to form the hat-making troops (ShZV) and the sofa-patriotic troops (DPV).

Neck copy. There is DPA, and all the Monica are already spat on. And ShZV is to the Kremlin.

[Egorovich]

This is something someone doesn’t have a head for, and if you also put a hat on this head, it will be a complete tryndets. Snickering seems.

[avt]

Quote: Egorovich

Snickering seems.

In papakhas walked westward. Now only

take off your hat.

[san4es]

The insignia of civilian personnel with cool ranks is silver. For military personnel (with the exception of those worn on camouflage field uniform) - golden

... It's time to introduce new epaulets on the VO website

... "Advisers" - just by profile - 16 ranks

http://milportal.ru/geraldicheskij-sovet-pri-prez
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gosudarstvennyh-grazhdanskih-sluzhashhih-minoboro
ny-rossii /

[ul_vitalii]

Serving please in gold.

[Doliva63]

That is, the talking head of Putin Peskov is like an army general ?! Sailed.

[Mavrikiy]

Amerikosov have five-star, we are behind, as always.
- You have weapons systems - Corporal, Sergeant, Lieutenant. Bring to the "general"?
- No. I will limit myself to the "colonel." Generals can't do anything.

[Archivist Vasya]

Idtotism. Money has nowhere to go ... Yes, and if so then why should women give out hats separately than hats / caps are not suitable? Can you introduce special military tights?

[captain]

Put a plus for tights. If Shoigu finds out, then I think he will definitely enter. in general, it would be better if the soldiers of the contract soldiers were paid higher salaries.

[Piramidon]

Quote: captain

Put a plus for tights. If Shoigu finds out, then I think he will definitely introduce

In the Soviet army, women soldiers were given stockings (for men, socks).

[Flyer_64]

and raised us to the level of ensigns

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

Idtotism. Money has nowhere to go ... Yes, and if so then why should women give out hats separately than hats / caps are not suitable? Can you introduce special military tights?

Strongly disagree. Army thought is in full swing. You’re not familiar with my friend.
And the general fucks you with an order: "black top, white bottom" and deflate. But there is, we have in the army, thank God managers, chew cabbage.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

Idtotism. Money has nowhere to go ... Yes, and if so then why should women give out hats separately than hats / caps are not suitable? Can you introduce special military tights?

You my friend broke the chain. Tights ... Everything is complicated ... Where is public, where is personal ... It is said - hats (not hats). I think in the next year, however, with bags and umbrellas will please. Hey, what about Israel with fittings or headsets?

[Blue fox]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

Can you introduce special military tights?

Exactly, from Kevlar, so that the stars do not tear.

[Doliva63]

I won’t say anything about hats, so as not to be banned, but I wonder what kind of military clowns are in the photo?

[voyaka uh]

A woman is a state adviser to the Russian Federation of the 2nd class.
This prompted me to san4es.

[your1970]

Quote: Doliva63

I won’t say anything about hats, so as not to be banned, but I wonder what kind of military clowns are in the photo?

-Well, since you broke out of the circus and except for the clowns, you never saw anyone - it’s only for you, I’ll explain only once - this STATE CIVIL SERVANTS and they NOT military ranks - and the ranks of the state civil service
Z.Y. and unlike a military rank - only a court can deprive a class rank ....

[Geisenberg]

It is interesting to see what is there)

[moreman78]

Quote: captain

Put a plus for tights. If Shoigu finds out, then I think he will definitely enter. in general, it would be better if the soldiers of the contract soldiers were paid higher salaries.

Yeah, and do not forget to give out a SET OF SPECIAL MILITARY GASKETS once a month! Our budget is rubber, but the people are rich!

[karakol]

when the cat has nothing to do, he licks the causal place. and in the Ministry of Defense. all other problems have already been resolved. this one remained unresolved

[sabakina]

Will there be straw ones? To me alone.

Golden straw hat
From the head of your windy flew
Could captivate myself more than once
But a horse of some kind of officer
With a grimace of some savage
With a grimace of some savage
She was suddenly eaten

[APASUS]

We need to see what they will give out to my sister, again in the North they will only be deceived

[Mavrikiy]

The Ministry of Defense will provide its civil servants with hats and caps

Hats are those who have a hat of astrakhan. (well, who else has glasses)
Female civilians have hats.

[Fitter65]

It's cool, since 2015 I have been the civilian staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, but we have not heard about providing uniforms with us until 15 years later.

[your1970]

civilian personnel of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and state civil servant are two different service systems

[R-140]

I explain the civilian personnel of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the Federal civil servant are two different structures and we the GP have nothing to do with them.

[VDE3004]

My wife served in the Moscow region for 25 years, now she works as a leading accountant in the Moscow region. I’ll call, I’ll be happy about the hat. At the same time I learn about the veracity of this news)))

[your1970]

Quote: svp67

Quote: your1970

and if you think that the word "federal" means that this person works in Moscow

You know, but the list you provide clearly shows that these people work either in Moscow or St. Petersburg,

-and all in very large posts? !! ​​there it is written in Russian - ALL positions starting from secretary 2 category

[Terenin]

After the initiative of Shoigu with footcloths, the commanders of the Russian army are in a stupor: how not to make a mistake on alarm - both boots are standing, and socks are.