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Again ... Desecration of the Eternal Flame, now in the Krasnodar Territory

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The next act of vandalism against the Eternal Flame has manifested itself in one of the regions of Russia. This time we are talking about the Krasnodar Territory. While in the city of Abinsk some schoolchildren are engaged in work to perpetuate the memory of the fallen soldiers, including laying flowers and branches to the memorial of World War II, two young girls came to the memorial for completely different purposes.


"Merry couple" girlfriends came to the Eternal Flame to dance on it, do not care about the flames and celebrate photos posted on the Internet. The actions of students recorded video cameras of street surveillance.

Unfortunately, Abinsk is far from the only city in the country where representatives of studying youth go to such actions as desecrating the memory of ancestors who gave their lives for the freedom and independence of the country. Earlier this kind of antics committed in the Chelyabinsk and Moscow regions, Volgograd and other regions.

It would seem that it is time to once again raise the issue of the wrong education of modern youth. However, in the same Abinsk, a case was revealed when a man of not student age actually committed an act of abuse - he removed the St. George ribbon from a garland of flowers at the memorial, but what was happening was noticed by law enforcement officers and forced to return the ribbon to its place.

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  1. mihey
    mihey 29 January 2018 12: 50
    15
    To the wall would be such, and better with parents. Nothing sacred at all ...
    1. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 29 January 2018 12: 55
      55
      Where does it come from, holy. Look at our telly, that there flows in streams for days on our heads.
      1. win
        win 29 January 2018 13: 15
        +2
        Where does it come from, holy

        I would not be surprised that vandalism occurred in Holland ...
        There are plenty of mills,
        and grass enough to stimulate vandalism fellow .
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 29 January 2018 13: 37
          +5
          Although the Krasnodar Territory is a "red belt", nevertheless there are very strong connections with urine ... The 14th year of summer, the city of Labinsk, on almost all mailboxes and fences - Wolfsnagel ... For me, it was a shock . To my question, the locals shrugged ... "And shaw takoho ... Kids messing around." This year, the truth is all painted over ... Last year.
          1. Crowe
            Crowe 29 January 2018 14: 53
            16
            Thank you for our children, Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich. for their education, for the values ​​that were adopted from the West! Special thanks to Kolya Urengoysky. Every year there will be more and more.
            1. myrzilka
              myrzilka 29 January 2018 15: 48
              11
              What does GDP have to do with it? First of all, thanks to EBN, it all began with him. VVP is a faithful follower of the family traditions. And then something stupid and stupid grows out of these stumps. Not knowing better times and concepts such as honor and conscience, decency, and responsibility. At whom - the loot is everything. First of all, the family is to blame, then the school and then our media.
              They do not want to work, but want to get money, they are not interested in studying. They are only interested in material wealth and which ones to “raise” without particularly bothering.
              But not all of them. There are many guys who understand that we need to study, remember the story. We are saddened thoroughly, but not hopelessly.
              1. Serg koma
                Serg koma 29 January 2018 19: 21
                +6
                Quote: myrzilka
                What does GDP have to do with it?

                TNT (Your New Television) is a Russian federal television channel. It is one of the five most popular television channels in Russia; since 2001 it has been included in Gazprom-Media Holding. Gazprom Media (a subsidiary of Gazprom) received ownership of the NTV channel, the satellite operator NTV-Plus, the entertainment channel TNT, the radio station Ekho Moskvy, and the publishing house Seven Days.
                PJSC Gazprom - Russian (formerly Soviet) transnational energy corporation. The state controls more than 50% of the shares..

                Myself, with our own hands, at the state expense, at the state programs we produce koliurengoy - so, kiss the gum of the GDP for this? am
                1. not main
                  not main 29 January 2018 22: 31
                  +1
                  Quote: Serg Koma
                  Quote: myrzilka
                  What does GDP have to do with it?

                  TNT (Your New Television) is a Russian federal television channel. It is one of the five most popular television channels in Russia; since 2001 it has been included in Gazprom-Media Holding. Gazprom Media (a subsidiary of Gazprom) received ownership of the NTV channel, the satellite operator NTV-Plus, the entertainment channel TNT, the radio station Ekho Moskvy, and the publishing house Seven Days.
                  PJSC Gazprom - Russian (formerly Soviet) transnational energy corporation. The state controls more than 50% of the shares..

                  Myself, with our own hands, at the state expense, at the state programs we produce koliurengoy - so, kiss the gum of the GDP for this? am

                  Yes, and a kiss! It may become easier. But in fact, it is better to let “our” channels howl than in our times all sorts of “voices”!
                  1. Svist
                    Svist 30 January 2018 00: 21
                    +1
                    Quote: non-primary
                    it’s better to let “our” channels howl than in our times all kinds of “voices”!

                    Which is better? In our times, in order to hear "all kinds of voices", it was necessary at least to become interested in them. Yes, and jammed them. And now they are obsessively broadcasting from all channels; if you want, you don’t want to, but you will pay attention ...
                  2. Serg koma
                    Serg koma 30 January 2018 16: 22
                    0
                    Quote: non-primary
                    Yes, and a kiss! It may become easier.

                    I don’t use bad-smelling tips - and don’t Poke, for this boy you will find yourself!

                    He cited the example of TNT as one of the ways in which OUR State and the "efforts" of OUR Government created a whole brood of "karyurengoy" of kinship that does not remember those brought up in the spirit of DOM-2 at the state expense.
                    Perhaps that is why you quoted the word “ours”.

                    AND WHY, if the ruler is even a little bit different from the BU in a positive way - does this become for many an ideal leader? If a worker drives marriage only 30% (say), this does not mean that there is no one better than him, and there are no people who can work without marriage.
                    The President is the workplace of a person elected by US. laughing
                    Words, music, animation are not mine, but I subscribe to the entire content of this video.
                2. myrzilka
                  myrzilka 30 January 2018 00: 12
                  +2
                  I spoke with whom it all began. Have we set the state policy since the 90s? Who was the president then? And then our "new" journalism and "new" television arose. When did parents start working non-stop and forget about the children? And if they didn’t work, then they drank themselves or became drugs, and still threw the children to their fate. You look at how the growth of homelessness began in those years. Soviet power eliminated homelessness, and our lights of shit democracy revived it. When was the cult of money introduced in the country? It all started when Humpback, slowly accelerating. And the apogee reached under the first president of Russia, his land is glassy. And now this system is worked out and implemented, for fooling. Liberal democrats do not need thinking people. They need a stupid consumer, which is now cherished and cherished on all TV channels (with the possible exception of the Zvezda TV channel)
                  1. Serg koma
                    Serg koma 30 January 2018 16: 36
                    0
                    Quote: myrzilka
                    I spoke with whom it all began. Have we set the state policy since the 90s? Who was the president then? And then our "new" journalism and "new" television arose. When did parents start working non-stop and forget about the children?

                    Stop stop stop .... Who is for the New Year, and to which receiver has he appointed himself, the successor of the "party policy"? And in what year was born and began to develop (under what ruler) "koliurengoy" and youngsters at the Eternal Flame?
                    MISSION LABELS ARE FOR LONG TIME, and the policy of OUR state is carried out by one (nominally) person. So the example of the Soviet government, which over 10 years has eliminated homelessness, brought the country out of ruin and raised the Patriots of its country, to justify inaction on the same issues today (17 years) is somehow not appropriate. And "zhurnalyugi", so they are financed from the state budget ... Chubais, remember where he is now and in what positions in the state corporation - it means "the party’s business" is blooming and fragrant.
        2. Blue fox
          Blue fox 29 January 2018 13: 53
          0
          The most interesting thing is that they build a sickly museum there in their Holland and Denmark to promote their military history, albeit scanty and bashful by our standards. A friend was at the military museum in Copenhagen, the only 37 mm anti-tank gun that participated in WWII in Denmark and Hamvi blown up in Afghanistan (moreover, a whole action was beaten around the story of his bombing, a diorama with sound and light effects).
        3. Anarchist
          Anarchist 29 January 2018 14: 48
          19
          Quote: Silkway0026
          Look at our telly, that there flows in streams for days on our heads.

          Whom? Telly What century do you live in? These children do not watch it ... Everything is in the internet. And in it generally kapets!
      2. Mwg
        Mwg 29 January 2018 13: 49
        +2
        Add: tyrnet from the telly is not far behind
      3. krokodil25
        krokodil25 29 January 2018 14: 18
        +2
        Quote: Silkway0026
        Look at our telly, that there flows in streams for days on our heads.

        This generation does not watch telly, rather the Internet with which television is just pink fairy tales, draw the conclusions of the gentlemen. And by the good of their parents to the wall, then you would definitely understand that they made the creature further, just a lot of mat in your head! am
        1. Svist
          Svist 30 January 2018 00: 38
          +1
          Quote: krokodil25
          And for the good of their parents to the wall

          Ordinary fascism, covered by patriotism. Tie the belt to the sissies, that would come through the ass if the head does not understand!
          I’m looking here, lately, a lot of people wished to “put against the wall:” for any reason. Is it now so fashionable to show your patriotism?
          Look and Marshal Solomon below calls for Auschwitz to create, and this with a Jewish nickname!
      4. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 30 January 2018 09: 44
        +1
        Quote: Silkway0026
        Where does it come from, holy. Look at our telly, that there flows in streams for days on our heads.

        All these cases direct consequence actions of our thieves' Russian authorities in the cultural, educational, educational, ideological policy, as well as the political and economic situation in the country. What do you want? With the apparent absence of state and social ideology, it is replaced by a liberal one - permissiveness, impunity, immorality, the cult of money, propaganda of various abominations and other muck. That is why I sincerely hate the pack that has landed in the Kremlin after humpbacked rubbish, just for this - for the deliberate and diligent decomposition of society. Not only that, the whole nation was robbed, but it is also systematically and enthusiastically turning it into a dumb, cynical, immoral herd.
    2. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 29 January 2018 12: 55
      +5
      To the wall - the parents, and those in the "pioneer camp" of the special regime until adulthood ... and the conditions, as in Auschwitz, by half, will not fully survive .....
      1. mihey
        mihey 29 January 2018 13: 03
        +7
        - When do you need to start raising a child?
        - How old is the child?
        - Year.
        “You were one year late.”
        It seems like Sukhomlinsky, but for some reason I also have a strong feeling that I read this from someone from the old Chinese.
        And so I’m sure that the “pioneer camp” will not help, but only exacerbate it.
        1. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 29 January 2018 13: 06
          +3
          Do you propose destroying children?
          1. mihey
            mihey 29 January 2018 13: 14
            15
            Ah, yes, it’s “one child.” Excuse me. Nevertheless, I will remain at my place, because the BRDM does not care how old it was for the person who set it on fire with the Molotov cocktail.
          2. Northern warrior
            Northern warrior 29 January 2018 13: 25
            +5
            I would have given Dr. Mengele such experiments without hesitation. In my family, all the ancestors fought in the Second World War, and even earlier - they served the crown. For me, the sight seen is worse than the murder. Two juvenile whores had to be dipped in the face to where they spit.
            1. Hoc vince
              Hoc vince 29 January 2018 19: 18
              0
              Two tenth-graders who defiled the Eternal Flame were delivered to the police department of the city of Abinsk in the Krasnodar Territory. This was reported by the press service of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the region.
              Administrative protocols have been drawn up for girls. Law enforcement officials have so far regarded their actions as petty hooliganism.
              Bullies and their parents face a fine or 15 days of arrest. After law enforcement officers held a preventive conversation with violators, they were drawn up administrative offense records.
            2. Svist
              Svist 30 January 2018 00: 45
              +1
              Quote: Northern warrior
              I would without hesitation pass on the experiments to Dr. Mengele. In my family, all the ancestors fought in the Second World War, and even earlier - they served the crown.

              On whose side is it interesting if you approve of the methods of fascism?
              And after all, plus such statements! NOT BATTERIES plus, PATRIOTS!
          3. Star
            Star 30 January 2018 02: 41
            +1
            I think it is necessary to deprive citizenship and expel from the country.
            Nothing to babysit with.
      2. Sergey Cojocari
        Sergey Cojocari 29 January 2018 13: 14
        21
        Or maybe it’s necessary to lean against the wall those who brainwash the people for 30 years? And where is the parent, if the Soviet past is denigrated day and night? And the first leaders of the country are not shy about doing this.
        1. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 29 January 2018 13: 16
          +4
          And those - first of all ....
        2. yehat
          yehat 29 January 2018 14: 29
          +3
          when a person speaks with slogans, this usually means that he has nothing to say.
          What do you mean by denigrating the Soviet past?
          that artificial picture all in pink ponies, which the ideology imposed at school,
          it was getting dark at the first meeting with reality, and this is a fact. The Soviet past is not very simple and with a bunch of not the most proud moments that are hushed up. I will say more, the Soviet past did not always coincide with the history of the state. It is better to know the history in detail, but not to make nonsense out of it as the party line did or as Rezun or Solzhenitsyn is trying to make.
          It just needs to be said bluntly, and more about the positive aspects.
          1. Ryazan87
            Ryazan87 29 January 2018 15: 26
            +7
            Why so hard? Here, previous commentators have already proposed a number of pedagogical techniques:

            1) shoot the parents;
            2) to shoot the participants themselves;
            3) to shoot parents and participants in a labor camp;
            4) to pass on the experiments (and personally to Mr. Mengele);
            5) corporal punishment in the form of flogging or frying ("Two juvenile whores had to be dipped in the face to where they spit ..").

            With such methods, patriotism will rise and fascism will be put to shame ... Undoubtedly.
            1. yehat
              yehat 29 January 2018 15: 32
              0
              immediately connoisseurs of history
              as our leader said about Trotsky? there is a person - there is a problem, there is no person - there is no problem. or did he mean also Medvedev, Ryzhays, Khodorkovsky, etc.?
            2. not main
              not main 29 January 2018 22: 36
              0
              Quote: Ryazanets87
              Why so hard? Here, previous commentators have already proposed a number of pedagogical techniques:

              I have a suggestion: let them shoot themselves!
          2. myrzilka
            myrzilka 29 January 2018 15: 55
            +1
            There is a very good expression:
            -which is good for the motherland, good for you.
      3. Giant thought
        Giant thought 29 January 2018 13: 14
        +7
        It’s time for the Kuban Cossacks to teach these worthless girls a lesson and teach them to love their homeland.
        1. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 29 January 2018 13: 20
          +5
          And there, Dear, more than half need to be taught ....
          Not one generation of visiting "Russians" from the CIS countries, to whom the history of the lamp .....
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 29 January 2018 14: 33
            +4
            Let's not ...
            Quote: Solomon Kane
            visiting "Russians" from the CIS countries, for whom the history of the lamp .....

            I, a traveler, but I know the story better than many locals ... It's all about education ... And when, "local" in Kal. regions, they told me that they never considered themselves Russia ... I just made conclusions and stopped talking.
          2. cormorant
            cormorant 29 January 2018 14: 57
            +2
            And here, again, the arrivals, maybe you need to scrape through your gangs ... Who calls the Krasnodar Territory a red belt, I advise you to take a ride around the villages and make sure how many well-kept monuments the White Guards have preserved ...
            1. kubanec
              kubanec 29 January 2018 15: 17
              +1
              ----------- I advise you to drive around the villages and make sure how many well-kept monuments to the White Guards have been preserved ..----- = - == - = - Well, where? and how much ?, something I somehow did not see anywhere
              1. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn 29 January 2018 16: 42
                +2
                I didn’t see the same thing ... But let it be so ... The whites are ours, and they were not under the swastika, under the tricolor. I am not against the White Monuments. People were afraid for their country, the country was falling apart ... Not everyone fought for the tsar, many for Russia, but within the borders of the Empire. All these republics scared ordinary people. Who knew that the Bolsheviks would gather almost everything back ...
            2. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 29 January 2018 15: 19
              +2
              He lived for 5 years in the region 00-05 and traveled around the villages and cities ... Monuments to Lenin, no one cleaned, still standing in their places .. The locals themselves said, "we are red." Regardless of the insults, to the "Bolsheviks". Why did it become a shock for me to see the swastika ...
              1. yehat
                yehat 29 January 2018 15: 35
                +3
                I will say so, under Leonid Ilyich, too, swastikas drew.
                It was such a variant of hooliganism, as a reaction to the stout denial of the existence of the symbol itself. And there is no politics in this, only sheer stupidity.
                1. LiSiCyn
                  LiSiCyn 29 January 2018 15: 46
                  +1
                  Yes, I myself, painted ... Hemp on a wooden fence in the city of Alma-Ata. And next to the stars. But it was precisely the “classical” swastika ... And there, the Wolfsnagel (Bat. Azov) ... And the time, July 2014 ... Already Slavyansk was surrounded and people were burned in Odessa ...
        2. krops777
          krops777 29 January 2018 14: 13
          +5
          It’s time for the Kuban Cossacks to teach these worthless girls a lesson and teach them to love their homeland.


          That's right, flogging in a public place, so that it’s not bad.
      4. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 29 January 2018 22: 36
        0
        Quote: Solomon Kane
        To the wall - parents, and these to the "pioneer camp" ....

        Just need to adopt the laws. To such, without pity.
    3. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 29 January 2018 12: 55
      15
      Quote: mihey
      Nothing sacred at all ...

      For example, diary entries of L.P. Beria from April 23 to 1947 of the year. He emphasized that “interesting materials came from America. They couldn’t take us by force, they want to decompose us from the inside. They write directly, they will fight for people from childhood, they will corrupt our literature and art and will find assistants and like-minded people inside Russia for this. ”
      https://kprf.ru/party-live/opinion/139745.html
      1. vlad66
        vlad66 29 January 2018 13: 10
        10
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        They write directly, they will fight for people from childhood, they will corrupt our literature and art and will find assistants and like-minded people inside Russia for this. ”

        And after all they achieve their goals request especially looking at such hassles, and the rest are turning the country into Dom2. negative
        You need to shoot for this. negative
        1. cniza
          cniza 29 January 2018 13: 42
          +2
          If they have an idol and a goal, K. Sobchak, what can be expected.
          1. vlad66
            vlad66 29 January 2018 14: 26
            +7
            Quote: cniza
            If they have an idol and a goal, K. Sobchak, what can be expected.

            Vitya, they were noted in bulk, also evil spirits. hi
            1. cniza
              cniza 29 January 2018 14: 32
              +2
              And Sobchak always supported Navalny, so everything is natural.
              1. vlad66
                vlad66 29 January 2018 14: 38
                +7
                Quote: cniza
                And Sobchak always supported Navalny, so everything is natural.

                Yes, those that these one fields are toadstools are mushrooms.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 29 January 2018 14: 46
                  +2
                  I accidentally heard the conversation of two such girls - they want to be as successful and smart as Sobchak and the state does not interest them, they are convinced that with money you can find a place to live.
                  1. vlad66
                    vlad66 29 January 2018 14: 52
                    +6
                    Quote: cniza
                    I accidentally heard the conversation of two such girls - they want to be as successful and smart as Sobchak and the state does not interest them, they are convinced that with money you can find a place to live.

                    Oh yes, Victor, my daughter, she also looked at House 2 all the way until she got married and gave birth to two children, now she doesn’t see houses in 1234, not before that. My son didn’t look at these houses for a long time and didn’t care about the stump of the oval, he was also a family and a granddaughter, not a big deal for politics. laughing
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 29 January 2018 15: 00
                      +1
                      This is great good drinks , but a lot of those whose eyes shine, envy of Sobchak’s success.
        2. yehat
          yehat 29 January 2018 15: 38
          +4
          not to shoot, but to make a mockery and organize life so that there are not many joys and others passing by to penetrate.
          For people to know what to do this is shameier than crap in a crowd of people.
        3. SERGUS
          SERGUS 30 January 2018 12: 24
          0
          Quote: vlad66
          And after all, they achieve their goals, especially by looking at such naps, and the rest turn the country into Dom2.

          Here it is, a new generation of consumers has grown up, does the liberals manage to build their “ideal” society?
      2. krokodil25
        krokodil25 29 January 2018 14: 30
        0
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        assistants and like-minded people inside Russia. ”

        Directly the plan was given by Coca then.
    4. Shurik70
      Shurik70 29 January 2018 12: 59
      +8
      Quote: mihey
      To the wall would be such, and better with parents. Nothing sacred at all ...

      It is with the parents. If such children, then the same parents
      And it would be nice if the press called the names. With address.
    5. Vend
      Vend 29 January 2018 13: 07
      +2
      Pro-Western hamsters, Bulk electorate.
      1. Cadet
        Cadet 29 January 2018 18: 28
        +2
        Are you sure they know who Navalny is? Most young people do not know him and do not want to know, they probably do not know who the president and prime minister are, and YOU are all about Navalny.
        1. Vend
          Vend 29 January 2018 18: 57
          0
          Quote: Cadet
          Are you sure they know who Navalny is? Most young people do not know him and do not want to know, they probably do not know who the president and prime minister are, and YOU are all about Navalny.

          What do you mean all about Navalny? Have we already talked about this? Children of social networks, they certainly know, and these two profurs posted their video on social networks
          1. Cadet
            Cadet 29 January 2018 20: 13
            +2
            So they have already earned a name for themselves with this video and it doesn’t matter how their peers will appreciate it, they are already popular in their city, they wanted it and got it, because surely no one made a comment from passers-by, but simply turned away and went on. You don’t need to talk to me about Navalny, about 50 people came to his rally in Tyumen, but the authorities made a noise around his arrival.
    6. siberalt
      siberalt 29 January 2018 13: 11
      +7
      What kind of patriotism in education can we talk about in the absence of state ideology? Children are now taught different points of view to choose from. It seems that these girls taught some other "point of view." recourse
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 29 January 2018 14: 25
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        What kind of patriotism in education can we talk about in the absence of state ideology? Children are now taught different points of view to choose from. It seems that these girls taught some other "point of view." recourse
        How is it not state ideology? In our country, a bourgeois party is in power, we have a liberal model of the economy instilled with eltsinoids, we have a weeping wall and an electric center ..... So the ideology is bourgeois, with a colonial flavor.
      2. alstr
        alstr 29 January 2018 14: 33
        +6
        Come on parents. Recently I drove a daughter class (9 years old) to Aurora.
        sightseeing tour 1 hour.
        About the revolution - 5 minutes from the force in total.
        About WWII - a couple of suggestions.
        But the film without words and text about the history of the ship for 5 minutes in which even I, who was very familiar with the history of the ship, knew little.
        Another 10 minutes a film about the nutrition of sailors before the revolution and how to produce a glass of vodka.
        As a result, I told the story of the ship in the class before the tour more than on the Aurora itself.
        And I perfectly remember the Soviet excursion - there was more relevant information there. Yes, there was a lot about the revolution, but the rest of the track record was covered in sufficient detail (for example, not a word about the service between the world wars).

        So where does patriotism come from, even if the museum does not talk about exploits?

        So you have to tell yourself. Here in February I will lead them to the naval museum - I will talk about the Solovetsky Jung, and in May I think about the children of the heroes of the Second World War to give him a lecture. but not only. but only a lecture does not help. Through the teacher, I give them assignments so that they write something like an abstract, i.e. to search for information yourself.

        Otherwise, it will be bad with patriotism.
        1. yehat
          yehat 29 January 2018 15: 42
          0
          the entire history of the ship Aurora can be expressed in just two words
          swam ... swam.
          I am sure that if the bear is made president again or the "consumer" is finally raised, the new tour will look like this.
          1. myobius59
            myobius59 29 January 2018 20: 19
            0
            Shit swims in the hole, the ships "go". So the sailors say, ignoramus.
            And you seem to be a relative of those girls, or friends, since you judge about this ship like that. He himself did what was useful, worked, did he carry the service? Or can you only carry nonsense ?!
            1. yehat
              yehat 30 January 2018 01: 51
              +1
              I know the history of the Aurora very well, and let the moroman come with their own imposition on how to speak. Arrange your orders on the zone.
    7. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 29 January 2018 13: 19
      +6
      Quote: mihey
      To the wall would be such, and better with parents. Nothing sacred at all ...


      Roll in a dad such a fine that after practicing it in the galleys, while belt-belt the thinking organ of his child, he mournfully repeated - He raised his son all his life, and grew a tree !!! This is bad luck! am
      1. yehat
        yehat 29 January 2018 15: 47
        +1
        I would have done a little more humane. Such things need to be recorded in the history of man. I did this - a ban on a range of professions related to ideology, leadership, responsibility, etc.
        He smoked in a public place - a ban on working as a sportsman and in the same spirit. Wash off the act with money, sweat or blood exclusively voluntarily and not all. And let him do what he wants, not a word of criticism! Just let the cantor write and the bailiffs control.
    8. Lavrenti Pavlovich
      Lavrenti Pavlovich 29 January 2018 15: 09
      0
      Quote: mihey
      To the wall would be such, and better with parents. Nothing sacred at all ...

      It is necessary to educate, perhaps with parents together. On the Internet, censorship is needed, you can’t teach a person freedom, who does not understand what responsibility is. In schools, the government imposes liberal programs, on TV and in cinemas they mainly show American films and TV shows-brain fluid, Solzhenitsyn the traitor is introduced into the school curriculum, officials stealing millions do not bear any responsibility. Responsibility, that is, the answer for one’s actions, is for some reason fashionable to call repression.
      1. yehat
        yehat 29 January 2018 15: 51
        0
        American films often speak of a sense of responsibility as part of the term "citizen of society." Take for example, a film about Spider-Man. Even there, the children of the child say "responsibility is not a choice, it is everyone’s duty."
        We prefer to interpret this freedom in the most unbridled sense.
    9. alexmach
      alexmach 29 January 2018 21: 30
      0
      To the wall would be such, and better with parents. Nothing sacred at all ...

      Gosh .. to the wall, tell me too. On the priest spank and scold and that's enough.
    10. SERGUS
      SERGUS 30 January 2018 12: 20
      0
      Quote: mihey
      To the wall would be such, and better with parents. Nothing sacred at all ...

      Do not forget about the Minister of Education.
  2. Gray brother
    Gray brother 29 January 2018 12: 51
    12
    It is time to return corporal punishment.
    1. Vard
      Vard 29 January 2018 12: 57
      +2
      Nagay below the back ... five times is enough ... does not reach through the head ... well ... put through the fifth point ... This is so gentle option for non-adult women ...
    2. figwam
      figwam 29 January 2018 12: 57
      +3
      Indeed, it is absolutely necessary to punish both the ruble and the work to improve the territory of the monuments.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 29 January 2018 13: 03
        +6
        Quote: figvam
        Indeed, it’s definitely necessary to punish the ruble,

        It’s possible to ruble parents, but these need a belt.
        It was brought up before by the Octobrists, then by the pioneers - and now they treat children and their parents as recipients of services, in other words, consumers. Here consumers grow, unclouded.
        You just have to beat those.
    3. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 29 January 2018 13: 02
      +8
      And criminal liability, evidence of idiots themselves provide.
  3. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 29 January 2018 12: 52
    13
    And what do you want. We have a democracy! And House-2 - taxis. And Shurygina is a prime time star.

    -Masha, here you have a dad a tractor driver, a mother, a respected milkmaid ... How did you become a prostitute?
    - Well, I don’t know ... lucky, I guess.
    1. private person
      private person 29 January 2018 13: 02
      +3
      And what about Shurygin and House 2? It’s just to punish realistically (and not to threaten with a finger) so that all of Russia can see on TV and the Internet the news about the punishment to turn on all channels, let snot and tears wind up and let their peers see it.
    2. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 29 January 2018 13: 04
      14
      What are you talking about? If our Russian athletes, having forgotten about their homeland, country and flag, are sent to Pyeongchang in the "Lion" position .....

      And the person cursing the whole history of the country and the Crimean spring, the girl from Dom-2 is running for President of Russia ...
      1. Bossota
        Bossota 29 January 2018 13: 27
        +1
        Confirmed: the IOC not only did not stop further humiliating Russia, but continued to do so with tripled strength. According to its official website, every athlete, journalist or official who came to the Olympics is required to betray his homeland for signature.

        “The IOC has also developed a declaration form for athletes and officials. Each participant in the list of invited athletes and officials will have to sign, ”the IOC website says. References to these “declarations” are also given there. First of all, our athletes are required to “only” recognize the decision of the IOC Executive Council of 5 on December 2017, which took on faith the words of Agent Rodchenkov, as well as all the arguments of McLaren from Vada, and consider themselves only as a member of the delegation "Olympic athlete from Russia at the Pyeongchang Winter Olympics." Also, the athlete must sign that he has nothing to do with our country, he was invited by the IOC and undertakes to comply with any requirements. But the most interesting thing is that coaches, staff and officials are even cooler - they should not have any of those who worked at the Sochi-2014 Olympics (President, Secretary General or accompanying guest, mission chef, Deputy mission chef , The Chief Physician or Deputy Chief Physician), as well as anyone who coached and treated athletes who appeared in the reports of the Oswald Commission.
    3. win
      win 29 January 2018 13: 09
      +5
      A House-2 - taxis

      And the presenter’s presenter marks ...
      Having elected Ksenia Sobchak as the president of Russia, the population from a herd will turn into a herd belay
  4. Terenin
    Terenin 29 January 2018 12: 56
    18
    Initiate a criminal case under article 214 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - “Vandalism”. Such freaks need to be planted!
    1. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 29 January 2018 12: 59
      12
      It is necessary to plant freaks, which of our children makes freaks! Our education, television, ideology of profit and permissiveness. Where is the state?
      1. Northern warrior
        Northern warrior 29 January 2018 13: 14
        +6
        What is the connection between capitalism and vandalism? Do not confuse warm with soft. Two juvenile supporters of the ANALOGA’s lesbian were given the task of provocation in order to get into the heroes of YouTube for a week. A man who ripped off the tape did this for the above reason, although it could well have been a visiting dill.
        For insulting the memory of fallen soldiers, it would be good to punish such nits in a criminal manner, including and for the desecration of monuments to the heroes of the Second World War abroad.
        1. would
          would 30 January 2018 04: 54
          0
          Pu ... is to blame for everything lol
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 29 January 2018 14: 41
        -1
        Which state? Capitalist? Here it is, in place, right outside the window.
        But there is no socialist, and in the next generation will not. Or there won’t be any at all if billionaires, the builders of socialism, come to power.
    2. yehat
      yehat 29 January 2018 15: 53
      0
      and pay for his detention in prison is not a small amount of money.
      NAFIGA ???
  5. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 29 January 2018 12: 57
    +6
    There is a bigger fine with parents, and the “schoolgirls” themselves are mercilessly flogged.
    1. yehat
      yehat 29 January 2018 15: 54
      0
      uh, specify the procedure for the word flog, the most piquant part
      maybe they will like the punishment laughing
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 29 January 2018 18: 41
        +2
        Strap on the ass. So that they could not sit for a week, at least
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 29 January 2018 22: 42
          0
          Quote: Stroibat stock
          Strap on the ass.

          Parents.
  6. Ural resident
    Ural resident 29 January 2018 12: 57
    +3
    Our patriots of the older generation generally do not know what youth breathe.
    I work every day with a huge number of young people to communicate - they saw this patriotism, etc. They have a better gadget and go to Europe - that’s the ultimate dream. So they showed - this is the norm for them. It is unpleasant to realize this, but as a result of the 90s, several generations are lost. I do not understand why there is no patriotic education in schools. In Soviet times, this worked.
    1. raw174
      raw174 29 January 2018 13: 15
      +2
      Quote: Resident of the Urals
      I work every day with a huge number of young people to work - they saw this patriotism, etc.

      I agree! He himself worked with this environment for quite some time and now I visit KDN from time to time ...
      Quote: Resident of the Urals
      I do not understand why there is no patriotic education in schools.

      It is high time to introduce the NVP, which will become the basis of patriotic education. So no, we are seriously considering introducing the “Word of God”!
      Can I write a petition? They collect signatures like that for any chukhn on the net ...
    2. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 29 January 2018 13: 39
      +4
      “I don’t understand why there is no patriotic education in schools. In Soviet times, this worked.”
      And what are the final results, let me inquire? This powerful work and widespread NVP?
      What did they do and what did these patriotically educated pioneers and Komsomol members do in the 80s? wink
      1. raw174
        raw174 29 January 2018 14: 57
        +2
        Quote: Ryazanets87
        And what are the final results, let me inquire? This powerful work and widespread NVP?

        At least pre-conscription training and education of a sense of patriotism, even if not 100% but nonetheless ...
        Quote: Ryazanets87
        What did they do and what did these patriotically educated pioneers and Komsomol members do in the 80s?

        The 80s is not a consequence of the lack of patriotic mechanisms, but rather a consequence of a mistaken economic and foreign policy.
        1. Ryazan87
          Ryazan87 29 January 2018 15: 16
          +1
          One may ask, do you sincerely think so? Okay, 80s., I.e. in your picture of the world, Soviet society, say, 1977, is firmly saturated with a feeling of deep patriotism? Especially youth. For example, Anatoly Chubais is 22 years old)) And Khodorkovsky is 14. Serdyukov is 15.
          1. raw174
            raw174 30 January 2018 06: 25
            +2
            Quote: Ryazanets87
            One may ask, do you sincerely think so?

            Yes, I think so.
            Quote: Ryazanets87
            Soviet society, say 1977 is firmly saturated with a feeling of deep patriotism?

            Not 100% of course, it may not be soaked, but work was carried out, including propaganda ...
            Quote: Ryazanets87
            For example, Anatoly Chubais is 22 years old)) And Khodorkovsky is 14. Serdyukov is 15.

            Well, you, Bad guys at all times were, like Kibalchishi ... They are weaker, here they break their elbows in the front ranks, what now, by them to judge the generation? ..
            And now there are also a lot of goodies, for example, take the Traffic Police Officer, who gave his warm clothes freezing on the highway, left without fingers, froze, in the Orenburg region. And someone in the Reichstag justifies the Nazis, guys risk their lives every day protecting Donbas, Crimea and our interests in the SAR, and someone with horse insistence wants to surrender everything and sprinkle ashes on their heads ... Here, the transition to personalities is not appropriate.
      2. alstr
        alstr 29 January 2018 15: 18
        +3
        If we take the 80s, then out of 620 thousand soldiers and officers participating in the Afghan war, more than 203 thousand people were awarded (that is, about one in three). Of these, 86 were awarded the title of Hero of the USSR.
        The BAM was built (from 74 to 84 years), where tens of thousands of people worked.
        But then there is nothing worthwhile. Alas. However, this is not the fault of people - it is more the fault of the leaders who ruined everything.
    3. yehat
      yehat 29 January 2018 15: 56
      +1
      it always worked and now works.
      young people need examples, leaders are needed.
      where is all this? Sobchak, GDP and Navalny or what are youth leaders?
      Or is he not Dimon?
    4. would
      would 30 January 2018 05: 00
      +1
      I do not understand why there are no patriotic education schools


      Here and there, but it turns out worse than if it weren’t.

      1. Because children are by their nature maximalists, especially adolescents, and idealists. And when they are told in the lessons about patriotism, love for the motherland and other eternal and beautiful things, and when they leave there they see everything completely opposite, an extremely negative reaction arises. Rather, even the right one. And they understand that all that they were told in the lessons is hypocrisy from hypocrites and for hypocrites.

      2. Alas, almost everywhere we have "patriotic education" at the regional level is perceived as "lick Putin and the Party" and they teach there not love for the motherland, but love for GDP and edra. At the same time they teach so that again it would be better if they didn’t teach, they even drove them out by force.

      In order for there to be a normal patriotic upbringing, it is necessary that at least the state be patriotic. So that students do not read about how a person who tells them about patriotism has real estate and bank accounts abroad, that they would not see that he sends his children abroad to study, and so on.

      Well, as the patriotic education in the USSR correctly noted, it didn’t work so hot, at least judging by the results.
  7. svp67
    svp67 29 January 2018 12: 58
    +6
    A "cheerful couple" of friends came to the Eternal Flame to dance on it, spit in the flames and mark photos posted on the Internet.
    It would be interesting to know how they relate to Navalny; I won’t be surprised if this is their idol. And the authorities will have enough talk and talk, it’s time to equate the insult of military graves and memorials with the insult of the Flag and the Anthem and ask in full both from undergrowth and from their parents. Otherwise, we will not stop this wave.
    1. yehat
      yehat 29 January 2018 16: 01
      +3
      an insult to an anthem that almost no one knows?
      an insult to a flag that no one has chosen?
      you think first, then offer. It’s with such proposals as yours that idiocy spawns in the country.
      1. svp67
        svp67 29 January 2018 16: 07
        +1
        Quote: yehat
        an insult to an anthem that almost no one knows?

        Respond only for yourself. Children know him, the school works in this regard ...
        Quote: yehat
        an insult to a flag that no one has chosen?

        What are you talking about now? And who chose the Red Banner? There is only one answer - "spontaneous popular masses"
        Quote: yehat
        It’s with such proposals as yours that idiocy spawns in the country.

        But from such your position, such UNPUNISHED actions that destroy the foundations of statehood are breeding. I can name many countries that consider themselves “truly democratic” and are proud of it, but let someone try to do something from them, then they will learn all the power of the state system and that’s right
        1. yehat
          yehat 29 January 2018 16: 11
          0
          You are trying to operate with characters whose support is more than dubious.
          because it’s stupid. And it’s not a fact that punishments are needed, maybe just boring work is needed ... for example, let them deliver mail for a year and imbued with a hymn ...
          1. svp67
            svp67 29 January 2018 16: 21
            +1
            Quote: yehat
            You are trying to operate with characters whose support is more than dubious.

            Do not be silly. There are NO others in my country now.
            Quote: yehat
            And it’s not a fact that punishments are needed, maybe just boring work is needed ... for example, let them deliver mail for a year and imbued with a hymn ...

            And you do not consider it a PUNISHMENT? Well then, I take many of my words back .... You are even more radical than me. That is, as in that old children's joke: "We chop off the tail to the very head ...."
            1. yehat
              yehat 29 January 2018 16: 39
              0
              this should not be called a punishment, but a service to society, and an honor.
              and the successful completion of such a service is an important bonus in the resume when applying for a job (as in Japan: work there as a free volunteer in cat nurseries of year 3 and you will be the coolest candidate for non-weak positions in corporations)
              From any trouble you need to look for constructive ways.
              out of terrible negativity - service to society and social elevator.
              Here is the real method and the path to the future, and not “punish”, “plant”, “cut off” or “suck”. And if a person still refuses, then a hard filter for antisocial behavior will already work.
              1. svp67
                svp67 29 January 2018 16: 48
                0
                Quote: yehat
                this should not be called a punishment, but a service to society, and an honor.

                No, in order to begin the HONORARY service, it is necessary to smooth out the misconduct, so that it would not be in the way
                Quote: yehat
                like in Japan: work there as a free volunteer in cat nurseries of the year 3 and you will be the coolest candidate for not weak positions in corporations

                Let us separate the VOLUNTARY SERVICE and the DUAL SERVICE service, which implies in this particular case. You, first work out FORCING, lose some of your life time, and then, “with a clear conscience”, please CAN, ON YOUR DESIRE go voluntarily, but you may not go ...
                1. yehat
                  yehat 29 January 2018 16: 56
                  +1
                  voluntary service is the victim that compensates for misconduct
                  moreover, she changes a person
                  it’s important what will remain in the end. Your system "henceforth was not good" as a result leaves ruins. The deed is not compensated by anything, and the part of life is mutilated in the criminal. But if a person refuses the test, then then you don’t need to stand on ceremony with him at all and you need to use complete tin.
                  Again, the methods are different - in Japan it is a cross on a career, isolation through widespread social information, power methods.
                  They can do this in real life - they threw the garbage in the wrong place - the neighbor complained - you did not immediately apologize and did not pay the fine - you may lose the right to live in the village on the same day or worse.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 29 January 2018 17: 09
                    0
                    Quote: yehat
                    voluntary service is the victim that compensates for the misconduct; moreover, it changes the person
                    I do not argue with this, but in this case you are an idealist, these two girls will not voluntarily carry out pots in hospitals and observe animals, and even for this do not receive monetary rewards. This is clearly not the case. Some kind of re-education is required.
                    Quote: yehat
                    The deed is not compensated by anything, and the part of life is mutilated in the criminal.

                    Wait. It means that to go against some foundations of society, arrogantly challenging him - this is welcome, and when society tries to DEFEND itself legally - how you dare, you cripple life ... You cannot cripple what is already crippled. You have already called them CRIMINALS, which means that they have already CRIMINED a certain trait.
                    Quote: yehat
                    They can do this in real life - they threw the garbage in the wrong place - the neighbor complained - you did not immediately apologize and did not pay the fine - you may lose the right to live in the village on the same day or worse.

                    I hope that it will not come to such austerity, but it is necessary to strictly punish the garbage, I mean the case when they throw it in the wrong place. Behind the seemingly insignificant misconduct, the consequences can be grave. Illnesses have done too much harm to human civilization, and one of the ways to deal with them is through civilized garbage collection.
                    1. yehat
                      yehat 29 January 2018 17: 19
                      0
                      all antisocial acts give rise, as after a stone thrown into water, to circles on its surface. It doesn’t matter - garbage, eternal flame, a rapist or something. And any such act harms others. In Japan, they don’t teach this, but they literally hammered the first 3 years of schooling with real examples and a very large share of the child’s real work to improve life around them. Therefore, for adults, ANY harm to others is not just "indecent", but an act that is guaranteed to be condemned by everyone around and you will be lucky if you limit it. And the police there because they work quickly and with PLEASURE, because they know exactly what others think and what they work for. And such girls would be buried even on the approaches to the monument. Maybe not the first one he met, but the second or third, would stop them.
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 29 January 2018 17: 37
                        +1
                        Quote: yehat
                        and they literally hammered the first 3 years of schooling with real examples and a very large share of the child’s real work to improve life around them.

                        Our school does not educate, officially, this function was removed from it, it provides the training service. That's what you want, so understand it.
  8. Egorovich
    Egorovich 29 January 2018 13: 02
    +6
    These are real geeks, of which, subsequently, a humanoid m-appears.
  9. garnik
    garnik 29 January 2018 13: 02
    +2
    Everyone who is farrowing and has not driven the definition of sanctity into the skull box in these scumbags needs public punishment. School, too, should be responsible for these premature babies. Where are the lessons of patriotism?
    1. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 29 January 2018 13: 15
      0
      Of course, patriotic education is good, but apparently everything is much more complicated. What, few at one time "Komsomol and pioneer activists" led a double life?
      Of course, such cases should not remain without the attention of the competent authorities.
      If the education of these boobies would be just human (not even necessarily "patriotic"), then they would not have come up with these perversions.
    2. raw174
      raw174 29 January 2018 13: 16
      +1
      Quote: garnik
      School, too, should be responsible for these premature babies. Where are the lessons of patriotism?

      Here we come ... The school does not respond, if the program does not have subjects of a patriotic orientation, then they cannot be! Here you need to send to the Ministry of Education.
      1. garnik
        garnik 29 January 2018 13: 25
        +2
        In my time, in addition to the subject of history, there were no other subjects that would be close to the education of patriotism, and that was enough. And of course the family is not the least.
        1. raw174
          raw174 29 January 2018 13: 33
          +1
          Quote: garnik
          And of course the family is not the least.

          Firstly.
          Quote: garnik
          and that was enough

          It depends on the student. Surely in the class of these girls there are also worthy guys and girls ...
          For me personally, behavior like homosexuality is beyond comprehension.
      2. yehat
        yehat 29 January 2018 16: 06
        +1
        the problem of the school is that before it was controlled
        in the chain of parents - the committee - butch in the committee - the petition for the cone - the cone - the order for the school - the school - the kids got a little grudge or about the short chain the parents are children.
        now the chain of command is different:
        parents -> nobody children ->> nobody teachers -> nobody
        ministry -> school -> parents grunt.

        here it is, the difference.
        1. raw174
          raw174 30 January 2018 06: 39
          +1
          Quote: yehat
          the problem of the school is that before it was controlled

          There is a huge difference in the work of schools in the provinces and in cities with a population of over one million ...
          In our village, the role of parents is very large. Just a couple of years ago, parents began to resent the “voluntary” school repair fee, addressed the chapter with a letter and that’s it, there was a meeting of directors, everyone got the money and now they are voluntary contributions, they don’t take money, only in kind but practically no one donates. The school didn’t get worse, the money for repairs is ... and in another town of ours there was a case when parents wrote a complaint that the children work out hours during the summer holidays (they looked after the flowers there) and everything, the directors were removed from work .. I mean that parents have a significant influence in the first case - positive, in the second - extremely negative ...
  10. bk316
    bk316 29 January 2018 13: 03
    +2
    I would like to talk with them and their parents, but really I really want to know what is in their head.
    1. raw174
      raw174 29 January 2018 13: 18
      +1
      Quote: bk316
      really want to know what they have in mind.

      Cottage cheese, skim, from reconstituted milk.
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 29 January 2018 14: 35
        +2
        Ravil, welcome hi
        Cottage cheese, skim, from reconstituted milk.

        Sawdust there is filled with a solution "I want everything now, but I don’t want to work." negative
  11. Zubr
    Zubr 29 January 2018 13: 03
    +4
    The sad news. VO admins, request to you, remove the opportunity to put likes under such news. Here it is our humanization of education. It is necessary to educate while across the bench lies, as my grandfather spoke about this.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 29 January 2018 13: 08
    +2
    I immediately recall “onyzhedety” and Kolya’s boy in the Bundestag ... By the way, the Maidan in the country started about this, not immediately, but the seeds were sown and the crop did not keep itself waiting .. We also plowed and sowed and sprouts break out ..
  13. Forcecom
    Forcecom 29 January 2018 13: 21
    +2
    Quote: Stroibat stock
    There is a bigger fine with parents, and the “schoolgirls” themselves are mercilessly flogged.


    Enough fine from the parents, decent, will be uprooted by yourself.
    1. raw174
      raw174 29 January 2018 13: 34
      +3
      Quote: Forcecom
      Enough fine from the parents, decent, will be uprooted by yourself.

      Not a fact, they might say that Putin and his friends profit from children ...
  14. kaban7
    kaban7 29 January 2018 13: 21
    +2
    Arrange for them a session of mandatory viewing of films about the war - a few days, and start with the movie "Go and See."
    1. raw174
      raw174 29 January 2018 13: 41
      +1
      Quote: kaban7
      and start with the movie "Go and See."

      He won’t go, he won’t collect many likes! Rather, "Save the Private Area" will look or about Captain America ...
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 30 January 2018 05: 31
      +2
      Quote: kaban7
      Arrange for them a session of mandatory viewing of films about the war - for several days
      Yeah, I even know which ones: Anticipation, Bastards, Fine Battles, the Battle of Sevastopol, Stalingrad (Bondarchuk), and Hitler Kaput for dessert.
  15. kaban7
    kaban7 29 January 2018 13: 25
    +2
    Quote: private person
    And what about Shurygin and House 2? It’s just to punish realistically (and not to threaten with a finger) so that all of Russia can see on TV and the Internet the news about the punishment to turn on all channels, let snot and tears wind up and let their peers see it.

    Quite right: encroached on holy-get snot!
  16. faiver
    faiver 29 January 2018 13: 28
    0
    a belt on the fifth point, and parents, yes, a ruble ... although I doubt that these brains will be added to the video ...
  17. Gardamir
    Gardamir 29 January 2018 13: 33
    +3
    Here it is all said.


    or here


    And who supports the ideology in the country against our country. These people are sitting in the Kremlin and they are shouting cheers.
    1. 1 Navigator
      1 Navigator 29 January 2018 13: 51
      +1
      The point is well swept.
    2. Galleon
      Galleon 29 January 2018 14: 02
      +1
      Yes, Jackie didn’t run into something, they didn’t rush to condemn the vandals. But you will be seduced for your accusations.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 29 January 2018 14: 34
        0
        Teenagers with foam brains have always been plenty. They will condemn who should.
        The main thing is that the fighters for the truth in the internet will not drown in the excitement of exposing the "regime".
    3. Mestny
      Mestny 29 January 2018 14: 30
      -1
      What country are you against? What is it called, is it really the USSR?
      Are you healthy there?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 29 January 2018 14: 50
        +3
        Are you healthy there?
        This is you there! My Motherland is more than a thousand years old, during this time it was called by different names, for example, Vladimir-Suzdal Russia or the Muscovite kingdom. including the USSR, and you have something against it?
  18. 1 Navigator
    1 Navigator 29 January 2018 13: 49
    0
    Moral freaks have always been enough.
  19. The Sparkle
    The Sparkle 29 January 2018 14: 00
    +1
    I think the second part of Article 214 of the Criminal Code of our Duma needs to be amended - to give real terms without any delay in execution or monetary fines. The term can and should be given along with a huge monetary fine. If minors have done this, punish their instigator with their parents. And do not give a damn that "our partners" will be hysterical about "human rights in totalitarian Russia"!
    1. yehat
      yehat 29 January 2018 16: 43
      0
      the deadlines will not solve the problem, but they will create at least 2 new ones - the detention of convicts and open discontent will become hidden and therefore more dangerous.
    2. would
      would 30 January 2018 05: 06
      +1
      you need to make amendments - give real terms


      Real terms in prison from which 86% go out by repeat offenders (official statistics) and which has not corrected anyone? Just embittered and with a criminal record closed the way to a normal life? I understand that you would become natural criminals in the future?

      The term can and should be given along with a huge monetary fine


      Pff, a fine. The official salary is 7 thousand and the court decides to charge 25% from it to pay the fine. Fines now do not scare anyone at all.
  20. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 29 January 2018 14: 17
    +1
    Olga Buzova - the idol of such friends - speaking in the Palace of Culture of the XXXth anniversary (30th anniversary) of the Victory, called him the XXX Victory !! ?? What else can you expect from her fans? Already 10-year-old girls consider her super-duper "star". The failure in raising the younger generation is utter.
  21. Mestny
    Mestny 29 January 2018 14: 29
    -1
    Quote: Sergey Cojokar
    Or maybe it’s necessary to lean against the wall those who brainwash the people for 30 years? And where is the parent, if the Soviet past is denigrated day and night? And the first leaders of the country are not shy about doing this.

    Oh, another freedom fighter drew himself.
    Who about what - and lousy about the bath. Whatever the topic, but about crooks, you must definitely screw it in.
    Sane people understand that this very growing stream of slops is precisely the strongest demotivator of youth, and not the so-called "blackening of the Soviet past."
    1. Sergey Cojocari
      Sergey Cojocari 29 January 2018 14: 42
      +1
      Sure! It’s easier to shoot nurtured on the ideas of liberalism and universal indifference. Who was the idol of these ideas, "Gorbachev - 10 years old, Yeltsin 15 years old, Putin - 20 years old, Medvedev - 20 years old, Zhirinovsky 30 years old, and the derivative of their activities Ksenia Sobchak and the company. You can shoot, but the focus of this infection will remain.
      1. yehat
        yehat 29 January 2018 16: 45
        0
        According to Mikhalkov’s stories, at the age of 6 Sobchak was the same as now, nothing has changed - the same vulgar cheapness.
  22. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 29 January 2018 14: 35
    +1
    Internal enemies are worse than external ones. Why not remember Taras Bulba! soldier
  23. Mestny
    Mestny 29 January 2018 14: 37
    -1
    Quote: x.andvlad
    If the education of these boobies would be just human (not even necessarily "patriotic"), then they would not have come up with these perversions.

    No.
    If these bullshitters, or rather their parents, knew that they would do well from the law, then believe me, the upbringing would be somewhat different.
    "Why not steal if there is no one to calm down" (Russian proverb)
  24. Zomanus
    Zomanus 29 January 2018 14: 45
    0
    What did you want? How does the history of the country teach them
    so they relate to her.
    Have you looked into history books for a long time?
    And their children have long been asked about
    What are they told about the USSR at school?
  25. Varyag77
    Varyag77 29 January 2018 15: 09
    0
    Quote: Crowe
    Thank you for our children, Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich. for their education, for the values ​​that were adopted from the West! Special thanks to Kolya Urengoysky. Every year there will be more and more.

    And dad and mom will say thank you? Or is it that your son (daughter) is the harp, Putin is also to blame? No, my dear. No need to blame the mirror, if the mug is crooked.
  26. Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 29 January 2018 15: 19
    +2
    Quote: Blue Fox
    its military history, albeit scanty and bashful by our standards.

    The Dutch and Danes have a very rich military history, and the regular army and navy appeared much earlier than ours. It’s just that they don’t reduce all the questions of this very story to the period 1939-1945, as if there were no more wars.
  27. Nemesis
    Nemesis 29 January 2018 15: 20
    +1
    And Putin and his party are to blame for this, handing out a residence permit in the Russian Federation and citizenship of the Russian Federation to foreign bandits exploding the metro in Russia ...
    1. SEER
      SEER 29 January 2018 16: 44
      0
      Quote: Nemesis
      And Putin and his party are to blame for this, handing out a residence permit in the Russian Federation and citizenship of the Russian Federation to foreign bandits exploding the metro in Russia ...

      rave? fool
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 29 January 2018 16: 48
        +1
        Your party raves, issuing the citizenship of the Russian Federation with the exploding metro in St. Petersburg to the Basmachi ...
        1. SEER
          SEER 29 January 2018 16: 51
          0
          Quote: Nemesis
          Your party raves, issuing the citizenship of the Russian Federation with the exploding metro in St. Petersburg to the Basmachi ...

          what is my party
          labels and demagogy again?
          don't fall into insanity
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 29 January 2018 16: 52
            0
            You can’t write anything concrete, except insults, don’t write at all, but insult go to the street ...
            1. SEER
              SEER 29 January 2018 16: 55
              +1
              Quote: Nemesis
              You can’t write anything concrete, except insults, don’t write at all, but insult go to the street ...

              answer the question - what is my party?
              don't tell me what to do and I won’t tell you where to go ...
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 29 January 2018 16: 57
                0
                Do not write to me, especially in such a tone and such nonsense and I won’t tell you where to go ...
                1. SEER
                  SEER 29 January 2018 17: 00
                  +1
                  Quote: Nemesis
                  Do not write to me, especially in such a tone and such nonsense and I won’t tell you where to go ...
                  Talker of slogans.
                  Inna - such a name.
                  1. Nemesis
                    Nemesis 29 January 2018 17: 00
                    0
                    What about yours, Simon Petlyura ?!
                    1. SEER
                      SEER 29 January 2018 17: 16
                      0
                      Quote: Nemesis
                      What about yours, Simon Petlyura ?!

                      those. I guessed yours the first time ?!
                      1. Nemesis
                        Nemesis 29 January 2018 17: 47
                        0
                        And I am yours even more so ...
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    1. SEER
      SEER 29 January 2018 16: 46
      +1
      Quote: Alex Justice
      Heroes of the USSR !? Did they defend their homeland?
      Awarded for killing civilians, for helping one tribe destroy another?
      It’s better to keep silent about that shameful war.
      Well, you bastard ...
      shut your mouth, freak moral. not you wanderer to blame these people.
    2. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 29 January 2018 18: 45
      +2
      AWESOME !!!!
      Quote: Alex Justice
      Heroes of the USSR !? Did they defend their homeland?

      And you, I want to be interested in your year of birth? I don’t pay attention to the flag, there are many under other flags ... It just becomes uncomfortable due to the abundance on the site, such as you ... And the closer to March, the more you become ...
      Quote: Alex Justice
      keep quiet about that shameful war.

      Well, keep quiet ... Such comments, most on this site are not pleasant ..
  29. Semyonych
    Semyonych 29 January 2018 17: 01
    0
    Bare ass on the fire and fry, fry, fry ...
  30. PValery53
    PValery53 29 January 2018 18: 00
    0
    For scolding national shrines there should be a civil execution - sent to poverty for the rest of life. Who is next there ?! - Liberastam for inaction - a bucket enema.
  31. APASUS
    APASUS 29 January 2018 19: 56
    0
    It was necessary to fuck! Although it is more precisely the result of the reform of education and the general degradation of society. Now the values ​​are not the same .................
  32. vanavatny
    vanavatny 29 January 2018 20: 05
    0
    animals ...
  33. earloop
    earloop 29 January 2018 21: 59
    0
    Blasphemy should be punished. An appropriate law must be adopted so that such blasphemous acts remain a "heavy discriminatory burden" on their entire future fate. As grandmothers used to say to their grandchildren and granddaughters: “You can’t do this! God will punish you!”
    1. lis_12_09
      lis_12_09 29 January 2018 23: 27
      0
      I agree. Moreover, until the age of "child", parents must bear responsibility. Accustomed, "ponimash" that the box, tyrnet or "school" is to blame. Parenting is the prerogative of the family.
  34. rus-5819
    rus-5819 29 January 2018 23: 57
    0
    A "cheerful couple" of friends came to the Eternal Flame to dance on it, do not give a damn about the flame and check out the photos posted on the Internet

    According to the "five" per capita without the right of amnesty for Victory Day!
    Although there is another option: with Cossacks and "dogs"
    As they say it didn’t get through the head, it will come through jo ...!
    https://youtu.be/bi2dRyUHxeo
    1. Lieutenant
      Lieutenant 30 January 2018 17: 28
      0
      From the beginning to the Cossacks, and then on the pyaterochka for clarity!
  35. - = ANTRAX = -
    - = ANTRAX = - 30 January 2018 01: 27
    0
    Shurygin generation ...
    1. yehat
      yehat 30 January 2018 12: 05
      0
      I used to criticize young girls for lack of brains
      Now I understand that this is a biological necessity)))
      so the question is not generation, but generation management.
      now another thing is depressing me among them - a new mod for teaching manipulation.
      nobody wants to be honest.
  36. Olegi1
    Olegi1 30 January 2018 04: 56
    0
    Quote: mihey
    To the wall would be such, and better with parents. Nothing sacred at all ...


    100500
  37. ljoha_d
    ljoha_d 30 January 2018 11: 43
    0
    Their faces must be photographed and on television so that everyone sees these fools
  38. Lieutenant
    Lieutenant 30 January 2018 17: 24
    0
    First of all, it is necessary to carry out explanatory work with parents, to punish them with good fines, you see, and such children will become less ...