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Ankara went to unexpected measures in an attempt to beat Moscow and Damascus. Commando and "al-Nusra" in Tayip's cunning plan

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Almost a week after the start of the criminal military operation called the “Olive Branch”, aimed at completely suppressing the Kurdish National Self-Defense Forces in the territory of the canton of Afrin, located in the “half-boiler”, as well as at the genocide and expulsion of the Yezidis from their original native land, the Turkish Armed Forces and the FSA formations supported by them actually signed on to their incapacity not only in the possibility of conducting an offensive operation in a difficult mountainous terrain in the west and north of the canton, but also in conducting military operations on relatively flat area east of the Afrin River. By January 27, 2018, thanks to the high professionalism of anti-tank calculations, as well as the tactically correct use of the YPG terrain, they managed to destroy at least 7 main combat tanks M60A3 / T-Sabra and Leopard-2A4 of the Turkish Ground Forces, while the forces of infantry units, snipers and machine-gun crews eliminated more than 308 pro-Turkish rebels from the Syrian Free Army and directly the Turkish Army drugs (among them 4 officer and 1 field commander of the so-called "Samarkand battalion").

More importantly, the Turkish tactical fighter F-16C / D Black 50 / + became extremely rarely operated in the airspace over the southwestern part of the canton of Afrin, because 4 was deployed at least in the vicinity of Aleppo to the Beech anti-aircraft missile division. -M1 / M2E ”, creating a no-fly zone up to the main city Afrin. This became known thanks to a message in the information window on the syria.liveuamap.com online map, citing both Kurdish and FSA sources. Also, judging by the incoming data, the establishment of an “umbrella” of air defense over the southern part of Afrin provoked one of the pilots of the Turkish F-16C to attempt to launch a rocket-air strike from a low-altitude mode outside the view area of ​​the KLO and RPN 9C36, which led to shelling side of the Kurdish operators MANPADS "Strela / Stinger". Obviously, the car was seriously damaged, but was able to reach the nearest runway in Turkish territory. Information about the fall, unfortunately, is not confirmed, because the photo fact was not provided with the design elements of the fighter glider.

It can only be stated unequivocally that without the use of high-precision missile weapons (which allows Turkish pilots to attack targets in Afrin, without entering the radius of destruction of the Syrian air defense systems), the air part of the Olive Branch is, fortunately, not feasible. To such arms include tactical missiles of the SOM-A / B1 family from Tubitak-SAGE and ROKETSAN, which began to enter the Turkish Air Force on January 4, 2018; they are unlikely to be used by the Turks due to the high cost of the product. Consequently, the only thing that the Turkish F-16C / D pilots “masterfully” perform is delivering merciless bombing strikes on peaceful neighborhoods and YPG fortified areas in the settlements of the canton of Afrin, located far from the air defense means of the Syrian armed forces, for example, Dzhandaris, Sheikh Hadid, Raju, etc. (only here is Turkish aviation at medium altitudes it feels like a fish in water); to date, this has led to the deaths of 43 fighter defenders of Afrin and 59 civilians.

The engagement of the CCA militants and units of the Turkish army in border clashes has already forced Hulusi Akara and other persons from the command to take extreme measures to implement the Olive Branch. So, on the evening of January 25, on his Twitter page, reporter Ibrahim Haskologlu posted pictures of the C-45E Hercules military aircraft arriving at the airport in Gaziantep-Oguseli (130 km from the canton of Afrin) Gaziantep is a large formation (at least 3-x platoons, 92 infantrymen) 49-brigade commandos of the Special Forces of Turkey. The forces that have arrived have already been distributed to several operational areas of the canton of Afrin. Given the long-established tactics, part of the Turkish SSO can be deployed near the Syrian-Turkish border to prevent military activity by YPG supporters living in southern silts of Turkey, as well as to prevent them from switching to the Kurdish National Self-Defense Forces.


Subdivisions of the 49 commando brigade at the airport "Gaziantep Oguzeli"


At the same time, one of the most considered versions of the sudden transfer of SSO to Gaziantep is also the support of offensive actions by the pro-Turkish “Free Syrian Army” in the mountainous areas of the canton of Afrin. First of all, it is the Western Front in the area of ​​the villages of Khalil Kulku and Maamal. During daylight hours, 26 January, according to the settlements, many hours of artillery preparation from the Turkish T-155 “Firtina” self-propelled artillery systems, MLRS, were also struck with links of F-16C / D multipurpose fighter jets. The purpose of the artillery strikes and airstrikes was the demoralization of Kurdish fighters and the “softening” of the military stability of the YPG fortified areas covering the strategic road junction “Khalil Kulku / Maamal-Afrin”, as well as an equally important section of the Raju-Rifat railway branch line that passes through the central part of the canton abounding in numerous intermountain depressions. The Turks are planning an offensive “jerk” from Khalil-Kulk to the above highway to Afrin. Numerous artillery and rocket-bombing attacks on YPG opornics located in mountain villages, as well as the work of the Special Forces against Kurdish ATGM operators, are being considered in support of the offensive armor and infantry divisions of the armed forces of Turkey in the southeast operational direction.

Nevertheless, Kurdish “tactics” —camelers, who know all the details of the cantonal relief to the smallest details, have already prepared “trump” ambushes to fire obsolete Turkish tanks not equipped with remote sensing equipment into the most vulnerable side and stern projections. As a result, for the transfer of hostilities closer to the center of the canton of Afrin, the SSA has a strong point, this is already evident. The “greens” are losing trapped positions on all border borders of the canton, even with full Turkish support. For example, the villages of Qurnah and Ibadan, captured on January 25, were released by the YPG troops the very next day. Moreover, in the captivity of the Kurdish units defending Afrin, there are more than 450 pro-Turkish militants and soldiers of the occupying Turkish army, which is far from an incentive for the FSA to continue the utopian operation called the Olive Branch.

An equally important fact is that some units of the YPG / YPJ on the eastern bank of the Euphrates have anti-tank weapons such as: FGM-148 Javelin anti-tank systems (in an unknown number of TPCs and ATGMs), 1000 - 1200, the French Milan-2 anti-tank systems , 5500 - 5800 "Panzerfaust-3", several tens of thousands of Swedish disposable RPGs AT-4, an unknown number of Yugoslav RPGs M57, as well as Chinese ATGM HJ-8E (photo below). It is quite clear that some of these PT-weapons capable of effectively fighting Turkish tanks and infantry fighting vehicles can be transferred to the YPG, which defends the canton of Afrin (only the FGM-148 "Javelin" movement can be banned, because these weapons are controlled by American military in Racca and Hasek). In the same turn, adding the above RPGs and ATGMs (even without “Darts”) to the TOW-2A / B already available to the Afrians will help to bring the NE of Turkey to a complete dead end.



As for Erdogan, he continues to lead an extremely insidious and intricate double game, not disdaining the use of such “tools” as “Dzhebhat al-Nusra”, and, if possible, IG. For example, a well-known militant - the head of the terrorist group "An-Nusra" ("Tahrir ash-Sham") Abu Muhammad al-Dzhulani is already quietly taking a selfie together with the militants from the "Free Syrian Army" in the north of the "Idlib gadyushnik". As is known, this sector is a kind of unincorporated territory of Turkey in the SAR. Consequently, Ankara fully encourages the unification of the Syrian wing of Al-Qaida with the Free Syrian Army. So it turns out, my friends! Well, what are we? We close our eyes to what is happening, continuing to “make friends” with Erdogan, because the permission for laying the 2 line of the “Turkish Stream” in the exclusive economic zone of the republic was issued by its subordinate structures. Fortunately, at least the aggression against Afrin was criticized at the level of the foreign affairs agencies, and they were also able to convince the representatives of the African SDFs to come to the Sochi Congress of the Syrian national dialogue. Meanwhile, the terrorist units of Muhammad al-Dzhulani, together with the FSA, have already opened the 2 front against the YPG on the southern borders of the Afrin canton, which requires the arrival in the canton of an even larger number of Kurdish reinforcements from the Rozhava and a multi-national volunteer contingent from Russia, Germany, USA , Canada, France, etc.

Other, no less disturbing details of the Turkish presence in the Idlib Gadyushnik are also visible. In particular, a large convoy of Turkish NE crossed the Syrian-Turkish border in the uncontrolled CAA of the province of Idlib, then moved in the direction of Abu Dukhur. Various sources report that the units of the Turkish army that were part of the convoy turned on the territory controlled by Hayat Tahrir ash-Sham (in 8 km from the front line) and closely monitor the course of terrorist operations with the Syrian Arab Army. Moreover, reliable sources in the Syrian leadership emphasize that the command of the Turkish Armed Forces and the leadership of the republic are waiting for the patronized Tahrir ash-Sham and SSA militants to be secured in tactically advantageous positions in the southern part of Idlib. It is obvious that only after that the Turkish side will be ready to present its conditions at the Congress of the Syrian National Dialogue, which will be held in Sochi from 29 to 30 in January. What conclusion can be made on the basis of this information?

Despite numerous hurray-patriotic notes of some of our “specialists” about the benefits of the Olive Branch, there can be no equivalent exchange between the canton Afrin and the Idlib Gadyushnik. The maximum that we observed after the start of the Erdoganov military action in Afrin was a breakthrough of the Tahrir ash-Sham defense line in the area of ​​the Abu Dukhur airbase. The further advancement of the Tiger Forces and other units of the Syrian army noticeably got bogged down. The peaceful transfer of Idlib to the control of the CAA is not on the agenda of Ankara. More importantly, the Turkish convoy under the Tel Kabah is already controlling that the Assad government forces do not advance a kilometer in the north-west operational direction. Against this background, some Russian and foreign sources referring to the Al Masdr News resource report on the impending large-scale offensive of the An-Nusrovites, which is quite capable of leading to the loss of such settlements as Kurnaz (the first contender for the “boiler” in the southern part Idlib gadyushnika ”), Khader (in 25 km south of Aleppo), and with the best scenario, and the repeated loss of Abu Dukhur. The combat capability of the “Dzhebhat al-Nusra” is supported solely by comprehensive military-technical assistance from Turkey.

Now let's take another look at the tactical picture in the northwestern section of the Syrian theater of operations in the light of the refusal of the opposition FSA to participate in the negotiations at the Congress of the Syrian National Dialogue. The “moderate” pro-Turkish militants, in fact, completely freed themselves from any obligations that should theoretically have been made in the course of settlement agreements at the upcoming congress. As a result, initially (before participating in any dialogue to create a de-escalation zone), Ankara was counting on a blitzkrieg against both YPG units in Afrin and against SDF units in the Manbidge region (on the west coast of the Euphrates) using her own tactical aviation and armored units and brigade commandos. The Manbij Kurds were to be driven out to the left bank of the Euphrates, and the Afrinsky - to be subjected to genocide and expelled to the territory of Aleppo, controlled by the Syrian Arab Army.

In accordance with the plans of the Turkish leadership, the successful implementation of this task would mean the creation of a full-fledged Northern Front of the SSA for further offensive on the territories under the control of the Syrian government forces. As we noted earlier, Canton Afrin is a strategic “barrier” for building an FSA 215-kilometer offensive “fist” along the provinces of Lattakia, Idlib and Aleppo. After stripping Afrin, a situation may arise in which the central city of Aleppo, Tell-Arana, as well as many other localities will end up in a huge tactical "cauldron" of the pro-Turkish forces. This should be “hacked to death” both in Damascus and in Moscow, not counting on any mutually beneficial “exchanges of Afrin for Idlib” and other inventions of some of our mass media that are inappropriate to reality. The fact is that all these tactical moments are links of the ambitious military operation of the Turkish army called “Euphrates Shield”, which was presented by Erdogan in November 2016 as one of the primary measures to overthrow the Bashar Assad regime.

At the current moment, a week after the start of the obviously failed Olive Branch operation, the tactical alignment continues to play into the hands of Damascus, Moscow and Washington: YPG and YPJ troops actively supported by volunteers, as well as small arms, anti-tank and portable anti-aircraft missile weapons, loaded the Turkish army in a protracted and exhausting confrontation, capable of just a few months to weaken Turkey in geostrategic terms, which only improves the position of the CAA. So, in addition to huge losses in manpower (more than 400 people according to YPG), 7 destroyed tanks and several wounded armored vehicles, the Kurds managed to damage the Falcon and intercept a light attack helicopter (T-129 ATAK or AH-1P / S "Cobra "). Apparently, this was not enough for Erdogan, since in the evening of January 26 he announced the imminent discovery of the “Manbidz Front” (last week Turkish aircraft already launched pinpoint strikes on several SDF objects in the Manbij area). Tied up in battles in this operational area, where the SDF units are abundantly equipped with American weapons, the Turkish Armed Forces will finally lose the previously existing combat stability. Obviously, the combat potential and future of the canton of Afrin today depends exclusively on the existing “corridor” “Zahra-Nubl”, which is securely held by the Syrian armed forces. It is also clear that these lands are unlikely to be surrendered to the Turkish army and the terrorist / opposition groups friendly to it.

Information sources:
https://syria.liveuamap.com/
http://www.radios.cz/en/disorder/colonel-cassad/
https://lenta.ru/news/2018/01/27/helicopter/
http://tass.ru/politika/4889540
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  1. Strashila
    Strashila 29 January 2018 07: 21
    +5
    Kurds ... Kurds ... the key word here is the Euphrates ... Turks are eager for water ... in their area of ​​interest are sources of water in the first place ... Kurds so, for seeding action.
    1. Safevi
      Safevi 29 January 2018 10: 25
      31
      After the words "criminal military operation" did not read. The author needs to hide his emotions and hatred of someone when submitting information, this is the rule of journalism .. Drink a decoction of St. John's wort, they say it helps.
      1. IL-18
        IL-18 29 January 2018 11: 35
        15
        But in vain, further it is quite informative.
        1. Sergey-8848
          Sergey-8848 31 January 2018 15: 51
          +1
          If the word flickers here and thererebel", then this article is precisely Yevgeny Damantsev, who writes on technical topics, but with a bias in politics (or vice versa). And with this term he (just in case) refers to bandits who, in the Syrian battle of all against all, can inadvertently become fighters for the right case (or in time fussed and joined).
      2. Yujanin.
        Yujanin. 29 January 2018 14: 14
        +4
        The author needs to hide his emotions and hatred

        how he hides royalties from a custom article ...
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. Varna
        Varna 29 January 2018 21: 07
        +2
        Quote: sefevi
        After the words "criminal military operation" did not read. The author needs to hide his emotions and hatred of someone when submitting information, this is the rule of journalism .. Drink a decoction of St. John's wort, they say it helps.


        So the truth really hurts. Any military operation is criminal (except for those designed to repel aggression).
      5. karabas-barabas
        karabas-barabas 29 January 2018 22: 56
        0
        I can’t vouch for everything written in the article, there are questions on the SSA where each creature is paired, and Arabs and Ottoman Turks, Shiites and Kurds are united by one goal, the overthrow of the dictatorship and the construction of a new secular state. Maybe Erdogan managed to separate the SSA, but the SSA were never seen in joint operations with the Islamists, they fought against Al Nusra and IP from the very beginning, they hate and do not spare each other. But the fact that Erdogan started the genocide of the Kurds is a fact, and as for me, it should be immediately slowed down, an emergency meeting of the UN and other instruments to help. Kurds are the most adequate people in the region, this is the hope of the whole region, and this is why the opinion of the Turks is important, but the Turks should not be allowed to impede the process. Without NATO and the EU, in general cooperation with the West, Turkey will quickly turn into a Shield Hall, as Trump likes to say. Of course, Turkey will not give a meter for the new Kurdish state, but if it is possible to determine the territory for the republic from pieces of Syria and Iraq, then we must do it. Everything else is not an option, the status quo after the IP raids, the attacks of Saddam., The Turks are not an option, they have endured too much.
        1. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 29 January 2018 23: 37
          +1
          “Hope” for what? Kurds first announced a couple of years ago that they were creating their own state, when they realized that they had forgotten about Damascus too late and began to declare that “we have a federation of Kurdish lands, but Syria and the type have no separation there was no question, you heard "when it was recently suggested that parts of the SAA be allowed into the territory, they ran into a horn, and therefore, in fact, the Turkish operation began with almost zero reaction from Damascus and Moscow.
      6. zollstab
        zollstab 4 February 2018 12: 46
        0
        Read in this case AIDS-INFO.
      7. Weyland
        Weyland 19 February 2018 20: 29
        0
        Quote: sefevi
        After the words "criminal military operation" did not read.

        Your problems. International law has not yet been repealed - and the criminality of Turkish aggression against Syria is undeniable!
    2. svp67
      svp67 29 January 2018 12: 47
      +3
      Quote: Strashila
      .in the sphere of their interests, water sources in the first place ...

      Water is a STRATEGIC resource, in those parts who own it, it rules there. What is clearly seen in the example of Israel.
      1. Mazandaran
        Mazandaran 29 January 2018 13: 39
        +1
        Then why did Israel decide the issue of providing water, but the Turks cannot ???
        You are a young man teaching MATCH! All the media are powdering us the Brains !!! There, in the war in Syria, a test site for testing new weapons .... !!!
        1. svp67
          svp67 29 January 2018 14: 24
          +4
          Quote: MAZANDARAN
          Then why did Israel decide the issue of providing water, but the Turks cannot ???

          simply because before the Turks could not do it, but now there is a chance. Which they are trying to use
          Quote: MAZANDARAN
          You are a young man learning MATCH!

          Thank you for the “young man,” as in the sixth ten I certainly don’t feel like an old man.
          Quote: MAZANDARAN
          We are all the media powder Brains !!!

          Well, air them, who's stopping you. I, from the USSR, have good practice in this regard, and after our 90s, it’s all ... vaccination until the end of my life, for which I thank the United States.
      2. Yujanin.
        Yujanin. 29 January 2018 14: 28
        +3
        Water is a STRATEGIC resource

        And to blow up bombs and arrange terror acts in Turkey, the Kurds can mean ?!
        1. svp67
          svp67 29 January 2018 15: 01
          +5
          Quote: Yujanin.
          And to blow up bombs and arrange terror acts in Turkey, the Kurds can mean ?!

          And it’s far-fetched to divide a whole people into several pieces, it’s so SIMPLE, YES? The Kurds and the Ottomans have their own truth, and now which of them will be more correct will be decided on the battlefield. Otherwise, they do not want
          1. tracer
            tracer 29 January 2018 16: 09
            +2
            I would add and do not know how. Whoever cuts off the head of someone first is right in the end.
          2. Yujanin.
            Yujanin. 29 January 2018 16: 49
            +1
            And it’s far-fetched to divide a whole people into several pieces, it’s so SIMPLE, YES?

            Something The world did not see how Russia, on its southern borders, was so concerned about the "rights of the people." By the way, the latter, like the Kurds, tried to cast doubt on the integrity of the country.
            1. svp67
              svp67 29 January 2018 16: 54
              +1
              Quote: Yujanin.
              Something The world did not see how Russia, on its southern borders, was so concerned about the "rights of the people."

              What are you talking about? Any actions of Russia simply cause a barrage of criticism and various resolutions. So what? I repeat once again, each has its own truth.
              1. Yujanin.
                Yujanin. 29 January 2018 17: 04
                0
                Are you talking about?

                The fact that 85 entities are part of the Russian Federation.
                Any actions of Russia simply cause a barrage of criticism and various resolutions.

                Nevertheless, Russia is trying to defend its truth.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 29 January 2018 17: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: Yujanin.
                  The fact that 85 entities are part of the Russian Federation.

                  So what? It is and will be located. Empire she is Empire.
                  Quote: Yujanin.
                  Nevertheless, Russia is trying to defend its truth.

                  But I don’t show anyone this right ... The question is different, but prove it ...
                  1. Yujanin.
                    Yujanin. 29 January 2018 17: 27
                    +1
                    So what? It is located and wakes up.

                    But what about the rights of peoples to self-determination, about which you wrote above? Double standarts?
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 29 January 2018 17: 33
                      0
                      Quote: Yujanin.
                      Double standards?

                      And who is easy now?
                    2. mgero
                      mgero 29 January 2018 19: 28
                      +1
                      Vi o Korobaxe gavarite?
                    3. Abel
                      Abel 29 January 2018 22: 30
                      +2
                      What is self determination? Now estimate: Free Chechnya, and Russia around. How to export gas from "samovars"? How to bring products? And in general, there are Vainakhs and Ichkeria, these are different peers. Some plow, others rob.
            2. Abel
              Abel 29 January 2018 22: 27
              +2
              For reference: Russia was smart enough to agree, unlike some
            3. iouris
              iouris 30 January 2018 12: 37
              0
              Quote: Yujanin.
              Something The world did not see how Russia on its southern borders

              What else is the "World"? Neither Turkey, nor Saudi Arabia, nor the other powers that supported the rebellion have yet answered for the "southern frontiers." As for the Kurdish question, it can only be resolved by the collapse of modern Turkey. Apparently, this is precisely the task that the USA is solving, supporting the Kurds at a certain stage of the "big game". What does Russia have to do with it, which during the XNUMXth century has already been divided into many parts?
        2. MadCat
          MadCat 29 January 2018 19: 29
          +2
          Quote: Yujanin.
          And to blow up bombs and arrange terror acts in Turkey, the Kurds can mean ?!

          you do not scratch all under one comb. But to blow up the Muslims and arrange terror can you mean? Can carpet bombing begin to defend against them? your logic fool
          1. Yujanin.
            Yujanin. 29 January 2018 20: 29
            0
            MadCat, carefully read the correspondence!
        3. Varna
          Varna 29 January 2018 21: 09
          0
          Quote: Yujanin.
          Water is a STRATEGIC resource

          And to blow up bombs and arrange terror acts in Turkey, the Kurds can mean ?!

          No you can not .
          But ignoring the right to self-determination of tens of millions of people is also impossible
          Where is the way out?
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 29 January 2018 21: 17
            +1
            Solve everything in peace.
            Only I could understand the Turks in one case. If the Kurds had a real opportunity to attack Turkey tomorrow, having superiority, threatening Turkey as a state. But this is absurd ...
          2. Yujanin.
            Yujanin. 29 January 2018 21: 44
            0
            But also ignore right to self-determination tens of millions of people - also not allowed

            The combination of these words was invented by strong countries, and the purpose of this principle is to intervene in geopolitical processes.
            1. iouris
              iouris 30 January 2018 12: 45
              0
              If Turkey is weak, then the “geopolitical processes” work against Erdogan, so everything that he does does not make sense and the Kurds will be allowed to create their own state at the expense of still existing but already weakened states. But this is not the final solution to the "geopolitical issue", because in the long term it is the creation of a superstate controlled from Washington. Question: What does Erdogan expect while remaining in NATO?
            2. Weyland
              Weyland 19 February 2018 20: 33
              0
              Quote: Yujanin.
              The combination of these words was invented by strong countries.

              The combination of these words was invented by the most infamous enemy of Russia - V.I. Lenin am - for the sole purpose of ruining it!
        4. Abel
          Abel 29 January 2018 22: 25
          +2
          I have nothing against it, but one question: when was the last Kurdish attack against Turkey. In my opinion, quite a while ago, apparently, I again wanted to.
        5. karabas-barabas
          karabas-barabas 29 January 2018 23: 16
          +1
          Quote: Yujanin.
          And to blow up bombs and arrange terror acts in Turkey, the Kurds can mean ?!

          But can you torture, humiliate, plant, kill, etc. for decades? There, after all, in places like in Chechnya, for decades in the regions populated by Kurds, the Turkish army has been operating, which leads to casualties among civilians. Who knows the Kurds and their mentality knows that on the one hand they are very sincere, kind people, very hospitable, but hardy as donkeys and tough when the situation requires. If the attacks against the security forces and the military can still be attributed to resistance, then the deliberate killings of random civilians are certainly insane terrorism. It is impossible for the Turks to leave the Kurds to solve the problem, especially while Turkey Erdogan and others like him will be at the helm.
    3. Turkfucker
      Turkfucker 29 January 2018 20: 47
      +3
      That's right and they do. You are flawed and necessary. That under Lenin, that under Putin, political cretinism is an integral part of your ego. The plane was shot down for you, the ambassador was shot on the air as forgive God I don’t know who, but you drove the S-400 to them. Allies.
      1. Abel
        Abel 29 January 2018 22: 45
        +2
        Turkfakreru. Not flawed merchants. In addition to weighing and shortening, you can hardly do anything. I saw in court your countrymen. Each other is shot in between the trade in tomatoes and drugs
        1. Turkfucker
          Turkfucker 29 January 2018 23: 05
          0
          I'm talking about Ivan, and you're talking about boob. Learn to read carefully. Academician Abel.
      2. meandr51
        meandr51 29 January 2018 22: 55
        +1
        The buyer is not an ally. Do not distort. What are so nervous about the good relations of neighbors? Can’t you push your foreheads together?
      3. andre
        andre 1 February 2018 13: 21
        0
        Here is a wonderful guy. Apparently you’re going through the anonymizer? And you’re flawed, Abel correctly says, sell tomatoes and make people laugh on the radio and don’t talk about anything with your foot.
  2. Korsar4
    Korsar4 29 January 2018 07: 31
    +8
    It is not known what will come of it all. How Turkey gets bogged down. But, if all this drags on. In the meantime, this goes. Turkey may have serious problems.

    Our are silent. But what do you say when you get addicted to the Stream?
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 29 January 2018 10: 16
      17
      Getting stuck is good. Not getting bogged down - good too! Our allies are Syrians. And not the Kurds, who have declared Syrian lands their own. Turks slaughter Kurds? Less rebels. Turks get bogged down? So the Turks are also not good friends to us. In addition, super-expensive NATO weapons every day show the Turks their indescribable fighting qualities. You look, we have to buy normal weapons from us.
      Supporting the Kurds is crazy. Who is there to support? Today one leader, seven tomorrow. You give them weapons, they will disappear tomorrow, and their change will make big eyes, who promised what ?! We promised nothing ...
      The Turks climbed themselves, and they themselves will disentangle.
      1. jjj
        jjj 29 January 2018 10: 56
        +2
        Kurds have been warned - don't mess with the Americans. But they decided to do their own thing. Now catastrophe has begun. We are waiting for them when they want to firmly become part of Syria.
        And about Turkey. But it was announced that in Turkey, Zika fever. Are we starting to limit the flow?
        1. karabas-barabas
          karabas-barabas 29 January 2018 23: 27
          0
          Quote: jjj
          The Kurds have been warned - don't mess with the Americans.


          What happened then? What does the Americans have to do with it? They helped them get rid of Saddam and invested dozens of green lard in cities like Yerbil. And in the Syrian war, the Americans were one of the first Kurds to throw off mainly Soviet slaughter, the DShK and the like, the Germans already began to arm the juppm. What does one have to look at how much patience the Americans and the West have with the Turks and how far Erdogan is ready to go ..
    2. Yujanin.
      Yujanin. 29 January 2018 14: 18
      +2
      Korsar4
      Our are silent. But what do you say when you get addicted to the Stream?

      Prohibit tomatoes, turn off the S-400 air defense, and the nuclear power plant under construction will suddenly cease to function. Also, going on vacation to Turkey will become unsafe. A double-edged sword, êàî!
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 29 January 2018 16: 37
        +6
        Quote: Yujanin.
        Yujanin. Today, 14:18 ↑ New
        Korsar4
        Our are silent. But what do you say when you get addicted to the Stream?
        Prohibit tomatoes, turn off the S-400 air defense, and the nuclear power plant under construction will suddenly cease to function. It will also become unsafe to go on holiday to Turkey

        Very robust suggestions:
        -stop purchasing “plastic” Turkish tomatoes.
        - cancel the sale of S-400 Turkey
        - cancel the construction of a nuclear power plant in Turkey for Russian money
        - close the flow of tourists to Turkey and reorient it to Egypt
        And after that, talk with the Turks about something diplomatic.
        1. Yujanin.
          Yujanin. 29 January 2018 16: 57
          +2
          Captain Pushkin, and what will self-isolation from your neighbors give you?
        2. MadCat
          MadCat 29 January 2018 19: 33
          0
          Quote: Captain Pushkin
          Very robust suggestions:
          -stop purchasing “plastic” Turkish tomatoes.
          - cancel the sale of S-400 Turkey
          - cancel the construction of a nuclear power plant in Turkey for Russian money
          - close the flow of tourists to Turkey and reorient it to Egypt
          And after that, talk with the Turks about something diplomatic.

          if one of the parliamentarians declared such a program, he would have won by a huge margin in Russia.
        3. Varna
          Varna 29 January 2018 21: 13
          +2
          Very robust offers, just brilliant, especially regarding the prohibition of tourist flow.
          Probably you turn the tap somewhere, and people will flow like water to another place?
          People are not lumps, wherever you want to put them - they will not stand up; and they don’t listen to you.
  3. igorka357
    igorka357 29 January 2018 07: 35
    13
    And so for starters, who is more important to us as an ally and partner, the result is not in favor of some running Kurdish formations of the Kurds, militarily zero, especially in economic terms. When Russia began to help the Kurds, they kind of accepted help, but it was worth it according to the promise of a "ghostly Kurdistan" these baboons immediately began to lick ass to the amers ... well, this was not done at all in honor! Now let them grab it, from both of these! While the Kurds are needed as a bargaining chip, no more .. . They knock out the game just to spit, even for the Turks, not to mention the amers or RF ... there will be twenty people with kalashas and a flag running and screaming “we exist”, but in fact it’s ... an ordinary BV tribe! And yet, about the article ... what the hell are the Kurds winning. 18 posted videos ... 18 exposed fakes .... funny, the only reliable fact of the downing of a "cobra" from the Russian Igla MANPADS, and a long time ago !!!!
    1. Aleks2048
      Aleks2048 29 January 2018 08: 06
      +2
      Strategically, the Kurds are more important than Erdagan. Kurds have large, detached communities in at least four states in the Middle East. In five years, no one will remember Erdogan and the Turks will be forced to leave the territory of Syria, or does anyone believe that Syria will just give Turkey part of its officially territory? And there is no one to fill this section of the territory of Syria except for Kurds in Syria.
    2. Abel
      Abel 29 January 2018 22: 49
      0
      In general, some others are
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 January 2018 07: 39
    +3
    tactical alignment continues play on hand Damascus, Moscow and Washington
    Well, it’s good that Assad and I are on hand. But whether the Americans are at hand in a big question. The Turks clatter their wards, of which the Americans tried to organize a border barrier and keep the border under their control.
  5. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 29 January 2018 07: 55
    12
    The author needs to be more impartial. What does it mean that we are silent, and thus play into the hands of Turkey? And the better are the Kurds trained, armed. And ideologically pumped up by the Americans? We have neutral peaceful Syria in our hands, without any interference from third countries. The Turks are not our friends Iran are not friends. They are no longer friends of the United States. Therefore, we should be equally divided over whoever is fighting with and for whom a piece of Syrian territory .. We have a different task. To crush the Barmalei, strengthen Assad’s power and their bases, and then we will see who breathes with what, in this disputed territory. e let them go beyond the borders of the conflict. Which, most likely, was done in private conversations between the chiefs of staffs of Turkey and Russia .. You’re shoving and destroying. And everyone knows about it.
  6. FLOOD
    FLOOD 29 January 2018 07: 58
    10
    The article is humorous. So many lies and hypocrisy in one article, I have not read this for a long time))
    1. zyzx
      zyzx 29 January 2018 09: 56
      +9
      YES Azerbaijan under the Turks, like Moldova under Romania.
      1. Safevi
        Safevi 29 January 2018 10: 28
        +9
        And what? We do not hide that we are TURKS. On the contrary, we are proud. By the way, there is no "Moldovan" nationality. They are Romanians. Do people have to give up their origin just because someone doesn't like it? Strange logic.
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 29 January 2018 11: 41
          14
          Quote: sefevi
          By the way, there is no "Moldovan" nationality. They are Romanians.

          Very interesting version! More? laughing Just keep in mind that:
          "Romania arose in 1859 as a result of the unification of the two principalities - Moldova and Wallachia."
          1. dima9990
            dima9990 29 January 2018 15: 35
            +1
            This is 5+, brother)))
          2. Weyland
            Weyland 19 February 2018 20: 36
            0
            Quote: Dym71
            Romania arose in 1859 as a result of the unification of the two principalities - Moldova and Wallachia

            Only this "Moldova" is now part of Romania - and is located to the west of Bessarabia, which for some reason we called Moldova!
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 19 February 2018 21: 39
              0
              Quote: Weyland
              Only this "Moldova" is now part of Romania - and is located west of Bessarabia

              from Bessarabia, which in turn was the eastern part of the Principality of Moldova.
              Quote: Weyland
              which we called Moldova with some fright!

              and therefore no fear hi
        2. To be or not to be
          To be or not to be 29 January 2018 11: 53
          +6
          quote = Sefevi] And what? We do not hide that we are TURKS. On the contrary, we are proud. By the way, there is no "Moldovan" nationality. They are Romanians. Do people have to give up their origin just because someone doesn't like it? Strange logic. [/ Quote]
          About Moldova
          http://aif.md/tajnaya-istoriya-moldavii-ne-daki-m
          y-ne-rimlyane-a-kto-zhe /

          Interview with the historian, author of the first Moldovan-Romanian dictionary Vasile Stati
          "" Moldavian language "is older than the linguonim" Romanian language ", confirmation of this can be found in the" Dictionary of the modern Romanian literary language "(" Dictionarul limbii literare romane contemporane "), volume I edition of 1955, where the Institute of Linguistics of the Romanian Academy of Sciences proved that the foundations of the Romanian literary language were laid down by Moldovan writers close to “Dacia literara.” George Kalinescu himself said that the juiciness of the language comes from Moldova and that, compared to the mantis poor dialect or transylvanian dialect, the Moldavian dialect is literary in itself th through voice soft. "
          http://enews.md/blogs/view/4383/
          recording of the famous German poet and statesman Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.

          In his “Italian Travels” he left such a note on January 13, 1787: “But the current play is of a completely different kind! On the Day of Epiphany, the feast of the Salvation of the soul, proclaimed for the Gentiles, we visited the Propaganda Palace of the Faith (Palazzo di Propaganda Fide in Rome). There, in the presence of three cardinals and a large audience, only one speech was made, just telling the place of holy scripture when St. Mary met three wise men in a cave or where else? Then several Latin poems with a similar plot were read aloud, and then thirty seminary students presented short poems in certain languages: ... Turkish (Türkisch), Moldavian (Moldauisch), ... Persian (Persisch), Arabic (Arabisch), Greek (Griechisch), ... etc., and on many others that I could not understand. "
          http://ecology.md/page/chto-gjote-pisal-o-moldavs
          kom-jazyke-ili-pochemu-moldavskij-drevnee-rumynsk
          ogo
          1. Safevi
            Safevi 29 January 2018 12: 14
            +3
            Moldova was a PRINCIPLE, not the name of the people. Like the Germans, there were many margrades, counties, etc. But they were all Germans. We have AR Nakhchivan. Nakhchivans living there, but they are not a separate people. Romanians and Moldovans speak the same language, so to speak.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 29 January 2018 15: 08
              +2
              Now it’s clear why, from the 1917 of the year, the Bolsheviks-internationalists in the territory of modern Ukraine began to plant the so-called “Ukrainian Movement”
        3. Sergey Cojocari
          Sergey Cojocari 29 January 2018 13: 37
          +5
          You can be whoever you want, even a donkey, answer only for yourself and in no way for your people, especially for a stranger!
          1. Safevi
            Safevi 29 January 2018 13: 48
            +2
            "You can be whatever you want, even a donkey, answer only for yourself and in no way for your people, especially for someone else's!"
            Is that you about yourself? Nice to meet you.,
            1. Yujanin.
              Yujanin. 29 January 2018 14: 38
              +1
              Is that you about yourself?

              This is how he demonstrates his upbringing, or rather, her absence ...
        4. Cheldon
          Cheldon 29 January 2018 15: 28
          +2
          The Armenians say there is no nationality of Azerbaijanis, the Azerbaijanis say that there is no Moldovan. Miraculous things are happening. Who is there? Who is not? You read first Wikipedia: who went from whom, when the state of Romania (Romania) appeared. By the way, in Baku there are Romanes (I can be mistaken), maybe your brothers are Romanians?
          1. Yujanin.
            Yujanin. 29 January 2018 17: 09
            +2
            Armenians say no nationality Azerbaijani,

            They say it right. An Azerbaijani is a political name, the collective name of Azerbaijani citizens, regardless of their ethnicity. In the same way, in Russia their citizens are called Russians.
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              1. Yujanin.
                Yujanin. 29 January 2018 20: 24
                0
                And Armenia existed before the Mesozoic era ..
        5. Varna
          Varna 29 January 2018 21: 34
          +2
          Thank you very much, thank you for denying me the right to be a Moldovan.
          I thought THAT - I’m Moldovan, but you just enlightened me - I’m Romanian.
          So I’m asking you now, you are a high-minded Turk, I should give up my father only because you, an imperial from the Absheron’s swamp, want it so much, or as you put it - "just because someone doesn’t like it ? "
          Listen, everything is very simple - if you want to be respected by you and your Turkic nation, have the courage and honor to respect other people and other nations.
          And do not get into a showdown between nations in which you understand as little as I do in your graters with the Armenians. Do not understand - then do not go.
          1. Abel
            Abel 29 January 2018 23: 11
            +1
            Turks (Turks) are not like that. Everything they have in ... itches, the Great Ottoman Empire. They just do not understand that the Great Ottoman Empire WAS, but degenerated. Eastern Poles
        6. Weyland
          Weyland 19 February 2018 20: 40
          0
          Quote: sefevi
          We do not hide that we are TURKS. On the contrary, we are proud.

          Yeah, since the time of Mustafa Kemal, "Turks - it sounds proud!" For in the Shining Port, the word "Turk" meant "hillbilly, b-s-d-lo, villein", etc. (and "concrete boys" proudly called themselves "Ottomans")
  7. unignm
    unignm 29 January 2018 09: 09
    +2
    what? uh ... mmmm ... author ....
    In short, I will not say anything, and then again they will sew sanctions
  8. zyzx
    zyzx 29 January 2018 09: 55
    +1
    multinational volunteer contingent from Russia, Germany, USA, Canada, France
    Then the Greeks would be busted by volunteers.
  9. flicker
    flicker 29 January 2018 10: 46
    +2
    So it turns out, friends! Well, what are we? We turn a blind eye to what is happening, continuing to “make friends” with Erdogan, because permission to lay the 2nd string of the Turkish Stream

    as well as many other settlements will be in a huge tactical "cauldron" of the Turkish forces. This should be “hacked on the nose" both in Damascus and in Moscow, not particularly hoping

    Before knocking a hoof, it is useful to figure out who is fighting with whom and where is the front line. Considering who we are fighting with and how we are fighting, it is important for us that both Turks and Kurds are our allies (all the more so in their own interests). But for the one with whom we are fighting, it is extremely important that we have neither the first nor the second in the allies.
    To stop Turkey’s fighting with the Kurds in Afrin, we need a consolidated position of the Kurds that they are an integral part of Syria. So everything is in the hands of the Kurds.
  10. Bypassed
    Bypassed 29 January 2018 11: 06
    +1
    Fine crushed stone, sprinkled with engine oil, scattered on tank-hazardous directions slows down armored vehicles well
  11. Ilya Markelov
    Ilya Markelov 29 January 2018 13: 24
    +1
    Something began to acquire the resource Russophobian color. Who are you to evaluate what is criminal and what is not? The media should present information in a neutral way, otherwise it is no longer the media. Which court found the operation criminal? None. Then what do you feed readers?
    1. garnik
      garnik 29 January 2018 13: 45
      +1
      Just a pro-Russian article, only proves in our haste to give carte blanche to the Turkish invasion of Afrin.
      1. Ilya Markelov
        Ilya Markelov 29 January 2018 14: 39
        +3
        Those. you, being a layman, are sure that you know and understand more of those who every day receive a sea of ​​information classified as secret, you understand more military analysts, but how did it happen that you are so smart and so poor? )
        Once again, not some pissing journalist should determine what is criminal and what is not. This is determined only by the court. And what is hasty and what is not - only history will determine.
        1. garnik
          garnik 29 January 2018 17: 56
          +1
          YOU address the same words to myself. Gorbatov and the drunk had a lot of information. We are sitting here to share our thoughts.
          History must teach, reversing it is not possible to return, then it may be too late.
      2. Abel
        Abel 29 January 2018 23: 15
        0
        Sorry, but no more strength. Correctly spelled TURK, not Turks
        1. garnik
          garnik 29 January 2018 23: 33
          0
          I think the Turks did not particularly upset. Visual memory recorded somewhere in the comments, well, if it cuts your ears, then the Turks. Thank you.
    2. Abel
      Abel 29 January 2018 23: 14
      0
      Articles are published not by a resource, but by an author who has his own point of view. Just like the comments. Do not like it - do not read, you can express your point of view. Here completely different people graze.
  12. wachmann
    wachmann 29 January 2018 13: 34
    0
    nobody is friends to us there, it’s the east, insidiousness has been honed there for thousands of years, it’s hard to think what to do there in the future, we must use the momentary benefits without putting our current “allies” back.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 January 2018 15: 12
      +1
      But we, too, are not the West, but to a greater extent the East.
  13. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 29 January 2018 13: 49
    +2
    Before reading it, I thought - Damantsev! Sweep - he! It’s interesting, but the author is sitting at the ICC that he has appropriated the right to label “criminal, criminal”?
  14. Volga073
    Volga073 29 January 2018 14: 03
    +1
    Erdogan is trickier than Putin.
    Erdogan is expanding the Turkish empire, and Russia is all hoping for petrodollars.
    Unfortunately, “surrendering” both the Syrians and the Kurds, allowing the Turks to fight in Syria.
    And nevertheless, the oligarchs will steal petrodollars to the West.
  15. FLOOD
    FLOOD 29 January 2018 14: 31
    +4
    Quote: zyzx
    YES Azerbaijan under the Turks, like Moldova under Romania.

    No need to look through such a prism, vision distorts ...
    Azerbaijan is against terror and is close (!) To Russia and Turkey.
    I respect both Moldovans and Romanians, should not be shredded on national and religious grounds.
    And about the “at” you mentioned to the point, we are the Türks hi
    1. Turkfucker
      Turkfucker 29 January 2018 20: 52
      +2
      Azerbaijan against terror? You have beguiled the shores of Mamedik Chatlahik. Show you a photo of the murdered old people in Talysh, or a photo where * an Azerbaijani udak poses with a severed head of Kiaram Sloyan, a soldier of the NKR armed forces.
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  16. Ivanov IV
    Ivanov IV 29 January 2018 16: 41
    0
    You can’t turn your back on either Turks or Americans. Let Assad’s actions be somewhat delayed, but they need to be thoroughly cleaned. Yes, and time plays on him. It is a pity that the activity of the videoconferencing has decreased. At a wrong time.....
  17. Horse meat
    Horse meat 29 January 2018 18: 35
    0
    It is necessary to hammer in more NATO aircraft, see if air defense is working in real life, how it can be improved.
    Also give the opportunity to sink American ships with missiles from the coast.
    Give Assad the best development, does not hesitate.
    And the long-range howitzer Syria also come in handy, even coastal.
    An-124 is, it’s not a problem to transport, it’s also possible to use heavy equipment by sea.
    All the same, it is necessary to keep Syria whole, to make it clear that we are not abandoning the allies, unlike America.
  18. Vasya Svoyakov
    Vasya Svoyakov 29 January 2018 19: 21
    +1
    It is absolutely obvious that in this situation, in which illegal armed groups are called fighters for freedom, instead of disarmament or destruction, it will last a very long time. In fact, it should be like this: Two weeks to all gangs lay down their arms, otherwise total extermination! And then political blah blah blah ....
  19. prosto_rgb
    prosto_rgb 29 January 2018 20: 29
    +1
    why do the Turks need the east coast of Euphrates?
    in general, yes, partly the border will pass along the Euphrates, but the Kurds on the west bank will also get something, but not much
    and they’ll leave Afrin, what are they actually doing now
    1. Turkfucker
      Turkfucker 29 January 2018 20: 49
      +1
      you're straight Machiavelli. They will leave as well. Mr. Belarus naivety.
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 29 January 2018 21: 35
        0
        Thank you!
        They will leave Afrin (if something supernatural does not happen)
        Well, they should not leave the oil fields, as Mosca and Assad offer for a couple
        Kurdistan will be hard without oil, but you can live without Afrin
        1. Turkfucker
          Turkfucker 29 January 2018 22: 50
          +1
          You are new to the Turks, dear. Erdogan sleeps and sees Osmanov resurrect again. And Putin’s entourage is full of suckers who don’t know geopolitics. Although you should not expect more from the former hebeshnik and his entourage.
          1. prosto_rgb
            prosto_rgb 30 January 2018 18: 44
            0
            Quote: Turkfucker
            Erdogan sleeps and sees Osmanov resurrect again.

            so he’s just busy with it, almost
            occupies the territory of the future state of Aleppo
            Quote: Turkfucker
            And Putin’s entourage is full of suckers who don’t know geopolitics. Although you should not expect more from the former hebeshnik and his entourage.

            +
  20. Turkfucker
    Turkfucker 29 January 2018 20: 49
    +1
    Correctly, the Kurds were arming the Americans.
  21. klm-57
    klm-57 29 January 2018 22: 14
    +3
    It seems that Erdogan needed the Turkish stream to a greater extent in order to bind Russia’s hands with obligations.
  22. Abel
    Abel 29 January 2018 22: 20
    0
    Or maybe throw the Kurds weapons? Equal exchange: Turks - ISIS, we - Kurds. It is necessary to discuss in Sochi
    1. Turkfucker
      Turkfucker 29 January 2018 22: 53
      +1
      Doppler. For once. Bravo.
  23. sergo42
    sergo42 30 January 2018 00: 31
    0
    But don’t we give a damn about the Turks and the Kurds?
  24. FLOOD
    FLOOD 30 January 2018 08: 08
    +2
    Quote: Turkfucker
    Azerbaijan against terror? You have beguiled the shores of Mamedik Chatlahik. Show you a photo of the murdered old people in Talysh, or a photo where * an Azerbaijani udak poses with a severed head of Kiaram Sloyan, a soldier of the NKR armed forces.

    Show photos of the bombings in the Moscow subway, the Khojaly genocide and terrorist attacks across Europe against Turkish diplomats. Further explain what ASALA is, where its headquarters are and what it does.
    1. Technikner
      Technikner 31 January 2018 19: 27
      0
      "ASALA" has long been disbanded. And the events described by the participant took place 2 years ago, and not by any formations of militants, but by military personnel of the army. By the way, the "hero" that carried his head through the villages and even showed it to CHILDREN (there is a photo , and the video) was rewarded with a state award. And I won’t talk about the Khojalu tragedy. The recent sensational video from MYSTERIOUSLY Suddenly killed Mustafayev puts everything in its place and how it was. Although there were a lot of facts and illogical explanations from the Azerbaijani side in one word a fake This is a tragedy for Meskhetians, refugees from Central Asia, who for some reason the Azerbaijani authorities settled in a hot spot. And did not even try to evacuate before the assault. But the cattle were taken out.
  25. Buka001
    Buka001 30 January 2018 08: 10
    +2
    Quote: Alex2048
    Strategically, the Kurds are more important than Erdagan. Kurds have large, detached communities in at least four states in the Middle East. In five years, no one will remember Erdogan and the Turks will be forced to leave the territory of Syria, or does anyone believe that Syria will just give Turkey part of its officially territory? And there is no one to fill this section of the territory of Syria except for Kurds in Syria.

    What nonsense are you talking about
  26. Buka001
    Buka001 30 January 2018 08: 30
    +3
    Quote: Turkfucker
    You are new to the Turks, dear. Erdogan sleeps and sees Osmanov resurrect again. And Putin’s entourage is full of suckers who don’t know geopolitics. Although you should not expect more from the former hebeshnik and his entourage.

    Well, quite in the spirit of the Armenians. The main thing is that the political elite of Russia has regained sight and understands that the sense of this Armenian-Kurdish-Yezidi party is zero !!! Do not give anything but a headache and waste. Another thing is the Turks, from Altai to Bulgaria everywhere we are a very real force. And most importantly, do not ask for handouts)
  27. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 31 January 2018 01: 16
    +3
    Damantsev continues to fear the Turks. I was ashamed to ask at first, but still I’ll ask, why did Damantsev dream of “the Yezidi genocide”? And then the Yazidis are kind?)) And where does the genocide in general? They actually live in Iraqi Sanjar))) And this information about the losses of the Turks and the SSA in manpower and equipment? I want to ask where is the info from? He considered Damantsev? Although let me guess ... "Objective" and "independent" sources from YPG and SDF ... But what about. It is clear that this kind of operation is such a fortified area, protected by a motivated adversary, with powerful allies like the United States and so on. cannot pass without losses. Moreover, the Turks cannot turn Afrin into the likeness of Aleppo or at least Raqqa (mixed with a peacekeeper) ... and then storm the ruins. Dear Damantsev will not tell how long the storming of Raqqi by the coalition took for example? 5-6 months? And I’m not talking about the assault on Aleppo, even after turning it into ruins. And to speak in advance, and even with such a self-confident aplomb, I would even say with passion that the defeat of the Turks, in general, is the height of amateurism. It seems that the author has something personal for the Turks. In all the articles by his refrain these narrative statements about "genocides", "criminal operations". The line of speech is not supported by a single documentary evidence or information from neutral or at least internationally recognized sources. It looks like defamation from personal or selfless motives ...
    1. Scorpio05
      Scorpio05 31 January 2018 01: 31
      0
      Selfless read in quotation marks))
  28. pytar
    pytar 31 January 2018 10: 29
    0
    2016 Mr. Fight point blank. Kurds hammer on the tops of the mountains by the Turks! Frames from the first person!
    1. Technikner
      Technikner 31 January 2018 19: 30
      0
      This is an old video.)
      1. pytar
        pytar 31 January 2018 19: 41
        +1
        On YouTube it is written that since 2016, the likely place is Turkish Kurdistan. As for the current events in Afrin, there are some on YouTube. We are waiting for new ones.
        1. Technikner
          Technikner 31 January 2018 19: 51
          +1
          There are new ones, and a lot. Yesterday I looked, by the way, the Turks also suffer a lot of losses both in personnel and in equipment. Although they don’t advertise it. I saw in a 50-minute video how the Kurds were beating from the mountains.
  29. antiamerikan
    antiamerikan 31 January 2018 23: 05
    +1
    the turkish convoy has already gone back
  30. Valery Saitov
    Valery Saitov 2 February 2018 07: 55
    0
    Everything is against everyone, an interesting war. And the Turks with intelligence have complete seams, therefore, such losses are incurred, and the aviation horseradish knows what and who they are bombing. They will have to increase the group by another 50 thousand.
  31. FLOOD
    FLOOD 2 February 2018 08: 10
    0
    Quote: sefevi
    After the words "criminal military operation" did not read. The author needs to hide his emotions and hatred of someone when submitting information, this is the rule of journalism .. Drink a decoction of St. John's wort, they say it helps.

    I would advise a hawthorn ...