Israeli historians will continue to clarify the truth about the attitude of Poles to Jews during the Second World War.

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Israeli Yad Vashem memorial complex, the world's largest center for studying stories Holocaust and preserve the memory of his victims, intends to continue to find out the "difficult truth" about the attitude of the Poles to the Jews during the war, despite the restrictions imposed by Warsaw, reports RIA News.





On Friday, the Polish Sejm adopted a package of amendments to the Law on the Institute of National Remembrance, which until the 3 years of prison provided for using the expression “Polish death camps” and other statements that could be interpreted as an attempt to make the Poles parties to the crimes of Nazi Germany.

The government of Israel, including the president, the prime minister and the leadership of the Foreign Ministry, has already expressed disagreement with the bill and demanded its revision, accusing the authors of trying to distort the historical truth.

Also about the rejection of the new law, which introduces criminal responsibility for attempts to accuse the Poles of complicity with the Nazis, including the destruction of the Jewish population, said in a memorial complex.

Yad Vashem (...) opposes the new law passed by the Polish Parliament, which is fraught with concealing historical truths about the assistance that the Germans received from the Polish population during the Holocaust,
stated in the center.

At the same time, historians have promised to "continue to support research aimed at identifying the difficult truth about the attitude of the Polish population to the Jews during the Holocaust."

At the same time, Israeli scholars agreed with the Poles that "the term" Polish death camps "prohibited by the new law in relation to German objects in the occupied territory does not correspond to the historical truth."
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  1. +55
    28 January 2018 15: 34
    All of Europe is rushing about with the Holocaust and the murdered Jews, but no one remembers how many Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians were killed, and burned alive, in their homes and sheds, women, children, old people. Probably because they don’t remember that they are not Jews?
    1. +5
      28 January 2018 15: 36
      Israeli historians will continue to clarify the truth about the attitude of Poles to Jews during the Second World War.

      Digging Yes And digging up ...
      1. +21
        28 January 2018 15: 43
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Digging and digging ...

        Israel already got it, but you are the most, the most injured in the Second World War. Even Valtsman in Kiev shouts about it and sponsors Natsik with Kolomoisky .. Poland dismantles monuments to Soviet soldiers, etc.
        PS 4 Soviet soldiers died during the liberation of the Auschwitz concentration camp! Does anyone remember this ..? soldier FOUR THOUSAND ! (so that they don’t think that I was mistaken in numbers ..)
        For what..??? So that they do not have time to destroy the traces of atrocities ...
        1. +5
          28 January 2018 15: 46
          Quote: Separ DNR
          Digging Yes And digging up ...

          Quote: MIKHAN
          Israel already got it, but you are the most, the most injured in the Second World ..

          Where am I and where is Israel? request And I ? Do I have a cropped sticking out?
          1. +16
            28 January 2018 16: 02
            Quote: Separ DNR
            Where am I and where is Israel? request What do I have to do with it?

            Do not pay attention. When Vitalik you say the word Israel and the reaction of the bull to a red rag should be immediate request hi
            1. +6
              28 January 2018 16: 19
              Quote: vlad66
              Quote: Separ DNR
              Where am I and where is Israel? request What do I have to do with it?

              Do not pay attention. When Vitalik you say the word Israel and the reaction of the bull to a red rag should be immediate request hi

              Thanks for answering me .. laughing wassat Separ don't be offended! soldier
              Just Kolomoisky remembered his slogans, about $ 10 thousand. for the Russian underground ..
              1. +8
                28 January 2018 16: 43
                Among the Poles, as among any people, there are both positive and negative characters. There are facts of both heroism in the salvation of Jews and shameful participation in crimes in the extermination of Jews. The plans of the Polish authorities to introduce criminal punishment for accusing the Poles of complicity with the Nazis, including the extermination of Jews during the Second World War, is just an attempt to hide their crimes.
                1. +4
                  28 January 2018 16: 59
                  My great-great-grandfather is from Krakow. And his wife is from a city in Zaporozhye whose name has sunk into oblivion ... I saw their cards from the church book ... When I visited Poland. And what should I say. Poles you betrayed Ashkenazi Jews .... this is stupid. We ourselves have already become Poles.
          2. +2
            28 January 2018 18: 38
            Separ DNR
            "Where am I, and where is Israel? What have I to do with it? Do I have a cropped sticking out?"
            You are uncircumcised, but not sticking out. wassat
            1. +5
              28 January 2018 18: 55
              Quote: omit
              You are uncircumcised, but not sticking out.

              How did you find out?
            2. 0
              29 January 2018 10: 49
              On the issue of circumcision, neurophysiologists have already proved that cutting off a part of the body (any) blocks the work of a certain part of the brain and this, in general, is not good. (Prof. Saveliev, Russian Federation, Brain Removal Program)
        2. +10
          28 January 2018 15: 54
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Israel already got it, but you are the most, the most injured in the Second World War. Even Valtsman in Kiev shouts about it and sponsors Natsik with Kolomoisky .. Poland dismantles monuments to Soviet soldiers, etc.

          you can’t be so ... limited ... even if you delve into the article, then or fool
          1. +7
            28 January 2018 16: 49
            Quote: Dead Day
            at least delve into the article, then Ori ...

            laughing ...... this is basically impossible. wassat
        3. +5
          28 January 2018 16: 01
          Quote: MIKHAN
          PS 4 Soviet soldiers died during the liberation of the Auschwitz concentration camp! Does anyone remember this ..? FOUR THOUSAND ! (so they don’t think that I’m in


          Where does the data come from?

          According to various estimates, from 234 to 350 Soviet soldiers and officers died in the battles for the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau
        4. +5
          29 January 2018 00: 14
          We Jews were saved. But no one saved us. All countries, participants in the war and large pre-war politics are equally to blame and not to blame. It would be foolish of me to complain about the lack of morality of the authorities of these countries. They don’t have one, it never has, and most likely will not be for a long time. I am simply stating a fact. So to speak, historical truth.

          And we Jews can only rely on ourselves. However, probably, like everyone else. We have created our own state - not by UN decisions, but on our own, and we will never again believe and allow anyone to repeat the past. By force. So that everyone knows about their inevitable destruction when trying to destroy us. Like a bespectacled nerd who was always beaten, and then tired of him, and he went to the karate section and won a black belt.

          I would end on this, if not for one big BUT.

          Jews, politicians, states, military leaders were not saved (rare exceptions: Finland, Denmark and its king, and they say that the Danes took a lot of money from Jews to Sweden. And the Bulgarian Orthodox Church with a part of the deputies of the Bulgarian parliament).


          Jews were saved by people. Fighters of the Red Army, partisans, ordinary citizens in the occupied territories of Russia, Ukraine, Poland, France, Holland and all European countries. These are the righteous of the world, as we now call them in Israel. While the Nazis Germans killed the Jews - other Germans saved them with a risk to their lives, no less than on the battlefield. While Ukrainian and Belarusian SS men, Russian Vlasovites and Baltic fascists shot my brothers - other Russians, Ukrainians, Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians risked themselves and died for our salvation.

          I say thanks to these people for life, thanks for the Victory and a low bow to the earth. The memory of you will live forever among my people - as long as we are alive. While the Earth is standing.
          1. +1
            29 January 2018 07: 52
            Quote: Hanokem
            I say thanks to these people for life, thanks for the Victory and a low bow to the earth. The memory of you will live forever among my people - as long as we are alive. While the Earth is standing.


            you excited me in the morning.

            Yes. memory is the core of a person and people, without it they turn small more than animals that are not rational.
            in the memory and unity of the people his strength and life. glory קב"ה we have it and wish to have our friends.

            good morning everyone and thanks again הנוקם, hanokem. per text
      2. +3
        28 January 2018 16: 19
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Israeli historians will continue to clarify the truth about the attitude of Poles to Jews during the Second World War.

        Digging Yes And digging up ...

        They do not know why Bandera was imprisoned before the Second World War?
        1. +3
          28 January 2018 16: 25
          Quote: Balu
          They do not know why Bandera was imprisoned before the Second World War?

          For participating in the attempt on the Minister of Internal Affairs ... (with the death sentence)
          1. +2
            28 January 2018 18: 04
            Quote: Separ DNR
            Quote: Balu
            They do not know why Bandera was imprisoned before the Second World War?

            For participating in the attempt on the Minister of Internal Affairs ... (with the death sentence)

            It’s a pity we didn’t have time to execute it. Ours had to hunt this dog for a long time.
      3. +1
        28 January 2018 16: 46
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Digging and digging ...

        Do you know the most important rule of the investigator? ........ the main thing in the investigation is not to dig so deeply - so as not to get on your mark wassat
    2. +7
      28 January 2018 15: 38
      Quote: K-50
      Probably because they don’t remember that they are not Jews?

      Years go by, everything is forgotten, wounds are healed. After 20 years, a monument to citizen Schicklgruber will be erected in Munich. The Communists are to blame for everything, who flaunted the results of the Great War with their international ideas.
      1. +5
        28 January 2018 16: 10
        Quote: hrych
        The Communists are to blame for everything, who flaunted the results of the Great War with their international ideas.

        Let's not ...
        Stalin, who was he? Communist ...
        Without his rigidity before and during the Second World War, would they win? AND ?

        And you all dogs ...
      2. +4
        28 January 2018 17: 45
        Well yes. WADA will find scratches on the Reichstag, will require a review of the results ...
        1. +2
          28 January 2018 18: 07
          Quote: Kerensky
          Well yes. WADA will find scratches on the Reichstag, will require a review of the results ...

          And will Russia give in?
          1. +1
            28 January 2018 22: 12
            And will Russia give in?

            Well, you have to admit that we scratched it ...
            1. +1
              2 February 2018 16: 31
              Quote: Kerensky
              Well, you have to admit that we scratched it ..

              And to admit as a mistake that they planted the red Victory Banner on the dome, and not the "neutral flag"?
              1. +1
                2 February 2018 17: 20
                Not! We just scratched and hoisted .... Neutral flag, this is generally something.
                1. +2
                  2 February 2018 21: 06
                  Quote: Kerensky
                  A neutral flag is generally something.

                  This is not something. This is a national shame.
      3. +2
        28 January 2018 18: 16
        Quote: hrych
        After 20 years, a monument to citizen Schicklgruber will be erected in Munich. The Communists are to blame for everything, who flaunted the results of the Great War with their international ideas.

        Most likely, in 20 years another mosque will be built there .. And the Communists will no longer come to save Europe.
    3. +13
      28 January 2018 15: 42
      At the same time, historians promised "to continue supporting research aimed at identifying the difficult truth about the attitude of the Polish population towards Jews during the Holocaust"

      The Poles have a stigma in the fluff, that’s bustling.
      Incidentally, it was the Poles in 1938, in alliance with Hitler Germany, who simultaneously invaded the sovereign lands of the European Czechoslovak Republic, a member country of the League of Nations. The Poles adopted their own set of anti-Jewish laws similar to the Nazi ones, which were condemned by the Nuremberg Tribunal in mid 1920 - a decade earlier than the Nazis! Not only the Jews inherited from the Poles, for example, the Poles organized the genocide of the German population of Bromberg and Schulitz in September 1939. And after the war, one and a half million Silesian Germans disappeared somewhere. And of course the first concentration camp in the territory Poland was by no means built by the Germans, but by the Poles themselves before the start of World War II in Birch-Kartuz, where horrors were no worse than later in Auschwitz, Birkenau or Dachau.
      https://www.liveinternet.ru/users/gallinnika/post
      374091259
      1. +1
        28 January 2018 19: 01
        Yes, there are Poles ... the united Europe has an elbow in Jewish blood !!! request request request

        Western countries and governments and the Jewish question before World War II

        ... After the "Jewish" representatives, delegates of individual states spoke, offering their action plans. U.S. Special Representative Taylor said his government would lift restrictions on Jewish immigration and was prepared to issue 27 visas per year. The representative of Canada explained that his country could only accept experienced farmers (although it was known that German and Austrian Jews were either traders or representatives of free professions). Brazil has introduced a law requiring a baptism certificate along with a visa application. It became clear that she could not accept the Jews. Australia, whose main slogan was “Populate or die” (in the country on a territory of about 730 km9, only 000 people lived), said that it could accept no more than 000 refugees in three years. The representative of France stated that his country had already accepted 2 Jews and reached a “saturation point” (the figure was not accurate, since all French Jews were included in it). England concluded that "an influx of Jewish refugees could cause anti-Semitic sentiment in Britain." Switzerland, the country of the Red Cross, said: "As Germany defends itself against Jewish dominance, Switzerland sees no reason why it should accept them." Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Honduras categorized intellectuals and merchants as “undesirable,” knowing that one half of German and Austrian Jews were intellectuals, and the other half were business people. The Dominican Republic expressed its willingness to accept 7 refugees. This decision was greeted with applause - as exceptionally noble. However, a little time passed, and the government of this country showed its true face, creating more and more difficulties for the refugees, and then saying that he could only accept ... 400 people. And only Denmark and Holland opened their borders to the Jews.
        ...

        completely in the article by reference !!

        http://www.e-reading.club/chapter.php/96469/57/Gz
        hesik _-_ Vozvrashchenie._Istoriya_evreev_v_svete_v
        etho _-_ i_novozavetnyh_prorochestv.html
    4. +12
      28 January 2018 15: 53
      Quote: K-50
      All of Europe rushes about with the Holocaust and the murdered Jews, but no one remembers how many Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians were killed,

      With this issue we need to "rush", as well as Ukrainians and Belarusians. Belarusians are modestly silent, Ukrainians made the executioner a hero, and here, Kolya and Urengoy mourn over the innocently killed German soldiers.
      And Israel has respect for the perseverance in the investigation of the genocide. Such things cannot be forgotten and overtaxed. This should not happen again. But it will be repeated if it is forgotten.
    5. +3
      28 January 2018 16: 02
      Another - two countries going to review the results of WWII - and the Germans will stop reparations.
      the reverse process will begin.
      soon the Jews will pay us for the dead soldiers of the Red Army who fought against fascism.
      The biggest contribution to the salvation of the Jewish people is the maximum gratitude (in dollars).
      1. +1
        28 January 2018 16: 12
        Quote: antivirus
        The biggest contribution to the salvation of the Jewish people is the maximum gratitude (in dollars).

        This is the idea you hohlam threw. You can say a finished business project ...
        1. +2
          28 January 2018 18: 20
          Quote: Polite Elk
          This is the idea you hohlam threw. You can say a finished business project ...

          The Sumerians still did not catch themselves ... and then with the Egyptians for using the pyramids, with Britain for creating a state; with Russia, Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria for using the Black Sea ... there is no limit to perfection and imagination ...
          1. +1
            28 January 2018 20: 48
            Dnepr flows without royalties
            AND THE VALDAY'S RISE HAD PUMPED (SO FAR TAKALED THE SOIL. WE COULD JUST PUT THE SECOND CAUCASUS) BY SPECIAL FOR ORGANIZING A STOCK FROM THE MOTION (CREATED THE BALTIC)
            VOLGA-- CASPIAN FILLED (CREATED PERSION)
            they did everything without payment, so they got the right forever and ever to bite all the apples of the world.
            1. +3
              29 January 2018 01: 24
              And they still have no complaints about the APPLE logo?
    6. +3
      28 January 2018 16: 12
      Quote: K-50
      All of Europe is rushing about with the Holocaust and the murdered Jews, but no one remembers how many Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians were killed, and burned alive, in their homes and sheds, women, children, old people. Probably because they don’t remember that they are not Jews?

      moreover, at the beginning of the 20th century, Jews accused Russians of exterminating the same 6 million Jews wassat
      here more
      http://communitarian.ru/publikacii/mirovaya_istor
      iya / proekt_holokost_priznaki_moshennichestva_v_os
      obo_krupnyh_sizemerah_v_compose_organizovannoy_gru
      ppy_241_dokumentalnoe_dokazatelstvo_31032013 /


    7. +1
      28 January 2018 16: 13
      Quote: K-50
      All of Europe is rushing about with the Holocaust and the murdered Jews, but no one remembers how many Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians were killed, and burned alive, in their homes and sheds, women, children, old people. Probably because they don’t remember that they are not Jews?


      There is a difference between those who died in the war and those who were specifically and purposefully destroyed and in such numbers.
      Of course, there were both Russians and tsigans in the camps, but the size of the tragedy and many other factors distinguish the Holocaust from other tragedies, and all the more it is not necessary to compare the losses in the war and the losses among those who were specifically destroyed.

      Do you know or remember how many people were killed in Europe and other countries? How many were burned alive?

      Each country, and especially a large and influential one, must not only remember, but also do a lot for others to remember.
      1. +11
        28 January 2018 17: 09
        Quote: Tiras
        Do you know or remember how many people were killed in Europe and other countries? How many were burned alive?

        Do you yourself know how many peaceful Soviet people were destroyed in the occupied territory of the USSR? HOW MUCH WAS BURNED LIVING? Khatyn is only a symbol of the genocide that the Nazis committed, such villages destroyed together with civilians more than 10000 will be typed throughout the occupied USSR and about Lidice’s tragedy is also remembered do not hesitate, not everyone here is Kolya from Urengoy. It was a genocide not only of Jews, but also of Slavs.
        Quote: Tiras
        in the USSR or Russia was recognized

        And what Russia or the USSR did not recognize the Holocaust eh? Less than pathos, nice people. negative
        1. +1
          28 January 2018 17: 24
          Quote: vlad66
          And that Russia or the USSR did not recognize the Holocaust eh? Less pathos, nice people


          Yeah, especially the silence of the Holocaust in the USSR.

          Is Slavic Genocide recognized in Russia or the USSR itself?
          Or do you want recognition from other countries when Russia itself does not ask to recognize it and it seems that it itself does not speak about it anywhere.
          1. +10
            28 January 2018 17: 45
            Quote: Tiras
            Yeah, especially the silence of the Holocaust in the USSR.

            Less pathos dear people, less. Jews were the same citizens of the USSR and their tragedy is inseparable from the tragedy of Belarusians, Ukrainians, Russians and other peoples.
            1. +1
              28 January 2018 18: 14
              It is separable whether you like it or not.
              1. +10
                28 January 2018 19: 04
                Quote: Tiras
                It is separable whether you like it or not.

                Are you a racist or a Nazi? They also separated. Do you continue their work? belay
      2. +1
        28 January 2018 23: 08
        Quote: Tiras
        all the more, it is not necessary to compare the losses in the war and the losses among those who were specifically destroyed.

        And who is talking about casualties among combatants? Our losses in the war - 26 million, of which the military - 6 million. And 8,6 million civilians - themselves died, without the help of the Nazis?
    8. +11
      28 January 2018 16: 15
      Can. The Slavs in the USSR perished many times more and they were also specially exterminated, but the Slavs are not cunning Jews, so their actual genocide was not recognized as such by the international community. And as for the Poles, so they handed over the Jews and the fugitives from concentration camps to the Germans constantly. Therefore, death camps were built on their territory. It’s just such a rotten and corrupt people who now don’t want what they thought of him in connection with the events of the Second World War.
      1. 0
        28 January 2018 16: 20
        Quote: Kent0001
        but the Slavs are not cunning Jews, so their actual genocide was not recognized as such by the international community.



        Was it recognized in the USSR or Russia?
      2. +1
        28 January 2018 23: 18
        Quote: Kent0001
        Can. Slavs in the USSR perished many times more and they were also specially exterminated, but the Slavs are not cunning Jews, therefore their actual genocide was not recognized as such by the international community

        And what about the world community?
        Did you admit it yourself?
        Is there a memorial day in Russia for WWII victims?
        The day when everyone mourns and remembers the dead, when there is no bravura music and parades?
        Day of sorrow?
        So if you yourself do not remember, what are your claims to the world community?
        1. +4
          28 January 2018 23: 41
          Is there a memorial day in Russia for WWII victims?
          The day when everyone mourns and remembers the dead, when there is no bravura music and parades?
          Day of sorrow?

          To keep abreast of events, you need to live in Russia, and not throw a shovel on the fan because of the "big hill". As far as I remember, this is June 22nd, or do you think that we can only hold parades and listen to "bravura" music?
          If the world community (universal people) made the day of victory over fascism the day of sorrow, sorrow for whom, for the innocently murdered Nazis, at the end of the European dream (?!), thereby turning concepts, but this is their problem, for Russia May 9 is the greatest holiday and yes , on this day we hold parades, salute, have fun, drink bitter, walk, and listen to good music ...
    9. +10
      28 January 2018 16: 40
      because Europe was killing Jews - Europeans who lived in this very European house, and we, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians - barbarians, natives, whom the good Europeans had to clean up on the liberated land with natural resources.
      It's elementary, but you are just like children
    10. Maz
      +3
      28 January 2018 16: 56
      Despite the fact that Soviet citizens, not Evieev, died many times more.
  2. +16
    28 January 2018 15: 34
    By the way, in Poland, even after liberation from the Germans, they continued to kill Jews. By inertia. In Poland, 85 percent of Jews died during the war, and in Denmark only 2 perished. Why? After all, they were captured by the same Germans. Or Polish Jews were more Jews than Danish. Yes, because the Poles handed over the Jews to the Germans, and they themselves helped to catch them. And Danish hid their Jews from the Nazis.
    1. +11
      28 January 2018 15: 43
      The Poles are the most intolerant of other nations. In something here, Catholicism and the unique Polish ambition are heating them.
      1. +5
        28 January 2018 16: 19
        Therefore, these sizzling creatures are not in our country and in Europe they do not favor. Prostitution of the Polish gentry for the ghostly "from mozh to mozh" for centuries. But they always broke off ... then we are the Germans .....
    2. +9
      28 January 2018 15: 46
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      By the way, in Poland, even after liberation from the Germans, they continued to kill Jews. By inertia.

      If you look at the history of Poland, you can still find quite a few crimes. It is worth recalling at least the total terror and killings of the German population in the lands transferred to Poland from Germany as a result of the war. The Poles did everything to exterminate the German population ..
      1. 0
        28 January 2018 19: 15
        Quote: APASUS
        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        By the way, in Poland, even after liberation from the Germans, they continued to kill Jews. By inertia.

        If you look at the history of Poland, you can still find quite a few crimes. It is worth recalling at least the total terror and killings of the German population in the lands transferred to Poland from Germany as a result of the war. The Poles did everything to exterminate the German population ..

        but now the Psheks are proud that they have a mono-ethnic Pshek sub-state !!! wassat wassat wassat while saying nothing about what they did to the rest of the considerable nations in number, who lived in the territory of this abominable country !!! request request
      2. +2
        28 January 2018 22: 01
        And we must still remember the destruction of 100 captured Red Army soldiers after the defeat in 000.
    3. Maz
      +2
      28 January 2018 16: 57
      The Poles are well-known Catholics and very ardent, and that came off. Well, the property issue and envy greatly spoiled
  3. +9
    28 January 2018 15: 36
    It’s interesting in Israel that people have already ended, whose Poles happily drove them into the ghetto or forgot how the Poles served there as guards or who were kicked out of the NDP with a bare ass, even if they still ask the living about how the Poles handed over the fugitive Soviet prisoners to the Germans for money, this is a separate subject.
    1. 0
      29 January 2018 07: 47
      .. what role did the Jews play in cultivating the Nazi state of Germany .. Schicklgruber, Himler .., and the rest * Bonzes * had Jewish roots .., like in Russia -85% of the Ulyanov’s government = Blanca were Jews .. It's not so simple as it seems .. Zionism is masked and whitewashed .. The thief screams * hold the thief * ..
  4. +6
    28 January 2018 15: 45
    Quote: K-50
    All of Europe is rushing about with the Holocaust and the murdered Jews, but no one remembers how many Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians were killed, and burned alive, in their homes and sheds, women, children, old people. Probably because they don’t remember that they are not Jews?

    Well, or no one needs the Chinese. About 35 lyamas laid them there.
    Also the 2nd World War, sort of, but no one cares.
    1. 0
      28 January 2018 15: 49
      No problem. Do the Chinese have an analog of Yad wa Shem? (Yad wa Sin). Who's stopping ...
      1. +2
        28 January 2018 15: 50
        And I'm not talking about the question or the question ...
        Nobody wants to know or remember anything.
        Everyone wants to look white and fluffy.
        And their shoals, oh, how I do not want to admit.
      2. +1
        28 January 2018 23: 16
        Quote: Shahno
        Who's stopping ..

        The "roof" of the japs ​​interferes - pin-up-sy!
      3. 0
        29 January 2018 18: 10
        Quote: Shahno
        No problem. Do the Chinese have an analog of Yad wa Shem? (Yad wa Sin). Who's stopping ...

        You do not say so by chance in China, they will not understand you very much there.
        Relations between China and Japan all the time go with an eye on the civilian population of China, who died at the hands of the Japanese. Not for nothing, all neighboring countries stand on their hind legs when government officials visit Japan Yakusuni Temple.
        The region also remembers the Nanjing massacre, the slaughter in Manila and Singapore, Detachment 731
  5. +4
    28 January 2018 15: 46
    I suspect that Jews are accumulating a lot of dirt on pshek. Well, someone who, and these-they are exactly the same Natsik.
    1. +8
      28 January 2018 16: 02
      Quote: Machete
      I suspect that Jews are accumulating a lot of dirt on pshek.

      Yes, and there is no need to dig.
      Pogrom in Edbavna - 1941, under the Germans. Pogrom in Krakow on August 11, 1945. - under Soviet rule.
      The only difference is that the Germans did not interfere, and the Russians dispersed the Psheks by the army.
      Repeat July 4, 1946 in Kielce with the participation of representatives of the Polish authorities - the instigators were shot.
      1. +2
        28 January 2018 20: 42
        So let them unveil to the whole world. Let’s listen to the hiss of psheks.
        1. 0
          29 January 2018 07: 46
          Quote: Machete
          So let them unveil to the whole world.

          Yes, this is, as it were, no secret.
  6. +2
    28 January 2018 15: 46
    Well. For the denial of the Holocaust, who today receives dividends. In our understanding, Birobidzhan does not get a fig. Out of order
  7. 0
    28 January 2018 15: 47
    Yad Vashem (...) opposes the new law adopted by the Polish parliament, which is fraught with hiding historical truths about the assistance that the Germans received from the Polish population during the Holocaust
    I read on their sites about gesheftmahamera still milking a German cow. No, well done! Shaw still say ...
    1. +2
      28 January 2018 15: 53
      This is so that they would not think that before the afterlife there is no one to ask them. The second time it will be disgraceful.
      1. Maz
        0
        28 January 2018 17: 25
        Yes, they are on the drum, rave the Polish-Lithuanian speech from Mozh to Mozh.
  8. +1
    28 January 2018 15: 47
    Quote: oldseaman1957
    The Poles are the most intolerant of other nations. In something here, Catholicism is heating them.

    the same Slavs only oil and gas much east, that's a shame that did not work 1612
    1. 0
      28 January 2018 16: 43
      Amiable you with a censor ????
    2. +1
      28 January 2018 18: 32
      Quote: painter
      the same Slavs only oil and gas much east, that's a shame that did not work 1612

      Actually, they were given the opportunity to be in the RI. And they were even in the empire for a while, but they dumped ...
  9. +1
    28 January 2018 15: 50
    As for the concentration camps, they are right, this is a completely German project. The Poles were more fun at the pogroms, because there was more profit from them, since you could rob with impunity.
  10. 0
    28 January 2018 16: 00
    --- "... to find out the" difficult truth "about the attitude of Poles to Jews during the war" --- It's simple, to interview grandchildren and great-grandchildren, (Poles) - this will be the answer to their question and do not be afraid, whatever the answer was not.
  11. +3
    28 January 2018 16: 29
    Quote: Separ DNR
    Quote: Balu
    They do not know why Bandera was imprisoned before the Second World War?

    For participating in the assassination attempt on the Minister of Internal Affairs ...

    There was infa that for the murder of a commerce Jew.
    Some Poles hid Jews, others surrendered to the Germans their acquaintances and neighbors, others tormented, mocked, and killed.
    In this, I agree with our polygonal friends. Let them impudent Poles. This little box on the first channel again reappeared, almost got it in the nose, heeded the warning and calmed down.
  12. +4
    28 January 2018 16: 42
    I am against such a law! angry
    It is important to understand that People died there - Children are not to blame for the fact that they were what kind of People these belonged to - it was important only to the Nazis .... (death to fascism)!
  13. +3
    28 January 2018 16: 42
    And what is there to displace it ????? 70 years ago it was already clear Ukrainians pshets Baltic states and so on .....
  14. +5
    28 January 2018 16: 46
    Psheks in all wars Litter acted .... but all the way against Russia ....
  15. +2
    28 January 2018 17: 22
    continue to find out the "difficult truth" about the attitude of the Poles towards the Jews during the war,

    And what is there to find out about the concentration camps and furnaces in Poland burned day and night and the supplies of Jews there went in columns ... monuments to Soviet soldiers are being destroyed now, who managed to free the thousands of Jews who survived in concentration camps located in Poland, at the cost of thousands and hundreds of thousands of Soviet soldiers liberating Poland .. About it all have long been forgotten!
    But Israel, I feel I want to promote Poland to compensate for the genocide, like Germany (they still pay huge amounts to them ..)))
    Some Russians remained spat on .. and in sanctions for everything we did for Europe and the Jews ..! It's a shame, oh well .. soldier Then we'll figure it out with everyone .. heh heh
    1. +3
      28 January 2018 17: 26
      Quote: MIKHAN
      But Israel, I feel I want to promote Poland to compensate for the genocide


      fool


      Quote: MIKHAN
      Some Russians remained spat on .. and in sanctions for everything we did for Europe and the Jews ..! It's a shame, but oh well.


      The USSR received everything that it wanted through reparations from Germany after World War II and refused the claim.

      The USSR, above all, did for itself, saving its country and its people.
      The USSR also knew about Auschwitz, like the Americans, but for some reason they were in no hurry to free the Jews.
      1. +6
        28 January 2018 17: 41
        Quote: Tiras
        The USSR received ... The USSR did above all ...

        Hmm ...
        And why do you have the USSR IT?
        1. +2
          28 January 2018 17: 49
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Quote: Tiras
          The USSR received ... The USSR did above all ...

          Hmm ...
          And why do you have the USSR IT?

          Yes, liberal .. They all call "this country", "this population", etc. Cosmopolitan .. angry
          1. +2
            28 January 2018 18: 05
            This is how a common mistake to use all abbreviations in the middle kind turns to accusations of liberalism ...
        2. +1
          28 January 2018 18: 09
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          And why do you Union of SSR-IT?


          I'm glad that everything else suits you.
    2. +2
      28 January 2018 19: 14
      Some Russians remained spat on .. and in sanctions for everything we did for Europe and the Jews ..! It's a shame, but oh well .. Then we'll figure it out with everyone .. hehe
      You must respect yourself first so that you are respected. A schoolboy speaks in the Bundestag, but there are many such students,
      https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2761579
      Jun 4 2016 - In Kemerovo, teenagers were found who decided to fry sausages on the Eternal Flame at the monument to the soldiers of Kuzbass. This is a 17-year-old student of a correctional school and his 14-year-old friend. They posted a video of the meal on the Internet, Rossiya 24 reports. Young men explain that such
      No need to look at Poland to restore order
      1. +8
        28 January 2018 21: 28
        Among the more than 140 million there will always be scumbags. No need to get out here. You answer better how many people from the "seven-bankers" were Jews? How many of the Yeltsin oligarchs have Israeli passports? How many of them are Israel harboring? Thieves and killers, and you cover them. Money doesn't smell for you.
        1. 0
          28 January 2018 23: 37
          Quote: Okolotochny
          How many of the Yeltsin oligarchs have Israeli passports? How many of them are Israel harboring? Thieves and killers, and you cover them. Money doesn't smell for you.

          Before you make a complaint to us, first deal with your thieves.
          Or has all the thieves from the Russian Federation already fled?
          Start with Serdyukov, Chubais, maybe others can catch up.
          1. 0
            29 January 2018 11: 54
            These are not thieves. They are respected people. And with any president, they will be in the same place as now - at the feeding trough.
          2. +3
            29 January 2018 12: 50
            So we want to deal with many, but Israel does not, or rather does not. Address your advice to your government. Or after obtaining Israeli citizenship, they ceased to be criminals ??? fool belay
  16. +3
    28 January 2018 17: 22
    Jews do the right thing. It is necessary more often to pan their faces in their own .no poke. Well done Jews (in this matter).
  17. 0
    28 January 2018 18: 11
    I read somewhere that it is not the Poles’s love for Jews that the Jews bought the church tax and allowed the Poles into the church for money ...
    1. +2
      28 January 2018 18: 23
      Lyakhs did this to the Orthodox in Ukraine, paying debts with Jews, gave the Orthodox churches at the mercy of the usurers, how did it end for the Poles and the Jews, you know
    2. +1
      28 January 2018 18: 36
      Guys. Do you even understand what it means to go to the temple for money. This means all the power structures on the side of the Jews. So who slammed the pogroms?
    3. +1
      28 January 2018 23: 21
      Quote: Vard
      Vrei bought up the church tax and allowed the Poles into the church for money ...

      Which country was it in? It was in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth that Orthodox Poles leased Jews to Jews - as a result, during the Khmelnitsky region, Ukrainians Jews genocide so that for them Khmelnitsky to this day is enemy No. 2 (after Hitler, essno)
  18. +2
    28 January 2018 19: 04
    I would like to know not only about the attitude of Poles towards Jews, but also vice versa
  19. +4
    28 January 2018 19: 40
    The Lochocost myth is already pretty tired of everyone ... But mythologists do not give up. According to the archive of German concentration camps seized by the Red Army in the General Directorate of all concentration camps in Oranienburg, from 1939 to 1945 403.713 prisoners of all nationalities died, died and executed in all concentration camps. Of these, in Auschwitz (the main "factory of death" according to mythology) = 73.137 people. Of these 73.137 prisoners, 38.031 are Jews. These figures roughly coincide with the estimates of the Swiss International Red Cross, whose representatives were in all major concentration camps in Germany. A small discrepancy in numbers is not significant ... The archive is located in the city of Podolsk in the suburbs. The journalist of Komsomolskaya Pravda visited the Archive and wrote an article about it, it was about this and on the Vesti TV ... What then began against the poor journalist ... Especially since she herself is Jewish. In general, this myth with a figure of 6 million murdered Jews has appeared in Jewish newspapers over 40 times since 1869. wherever there is war in the world. Well, the Jewish Rebbe are fixated on this figure - 6 million ...
  20. +5
    28 January 2018 20: 37
    but did the Eurgees forget nothing? Who started the Holocaust?

    quote "a little about the origins of the Holocaust"

    Assimilated Jews ruthlessly betrayed the complete burnt offering - the Holocaust. When Chaim Weizmann, who later became the first president of Israel, was offered to ransom Jews in German concentration camps, he cynically replied: "All these Jews are not worth one Palestinian cow." Weizmann called the Holocaust “cutting off dry branches”. (There is no city in Israel that does not have a street named after Chaim Weizmann.) Statements by Chaim Weizman relating to 1937 clearly demonstrate the terrifying nature of the Holocaust: "I ask: Are you able to resettle 6 million Jews in Palestine? I answer: No. From the tragic abyss I want to save only 2 million young people ... And the old ones must disappear ... They are dust, economic and spiritual dust in a cruel world ... (Hello, Genossa Jurgens! - author of the text)
    Mass deportations of Jews from Germany to Palestine on the eve of the war increased the population of Palestine to 400 thousand. By conspiracy with the Jewish people of Europe, nobody helped Europe, but at the same time, the rich and well-known Jews did not die. After the war, the same Chaim Weizman submitted documents to the UN on the death of millions of Jews and achieved the organization of the Jewish State - ISRAEL. Hana Arend, in her remarkable study, “Eichmann in Jerusalem,” wrote: “The role of Jewish leaders in the destruction of their own people is for Jews, undoubtedly, the darkest chapter in all this dark history.”
    quote address: http: //pogo-on-air.livejournal.com/4
    77154.html

    So it turns out that the first began the Holocaust and their same Jewish leaders

  21. 0
    28 January 2018 20: 55
    Israel must be given credit for the real protection of the Jewish population and it in all countries of the world!
    What can not be said about the effective protection of the Russian population living outside of Russia. Any Jew knows his belonging to one and 12 tribes of the people of Israel, which provides him with protection in the current situation.
    1. +2
      28 January 2018 23: 24
      Quote: earloop
      Any Jew knows his belonging to one and 12 tribes of the people of Israel, which provides him with protection in the current situation

      Thanks, laughed! I would like to see a Jew who knows about his belonging to the tribe of Ruvimov, Neffalimov, Issakharov, etc. All present-day Jews are descendants of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi!
  22. 0
    28 January 2018 21: 51
    The "Polish death camps" really sounds defiant for modern Poland, because it was the occupied territory of the Reich. If even some of the Poles collaborated with the German administration, then they are not the only ones. The Soviet people collaborated in the occupied territories and all other European countries that have been under the Germans have noted punitive and traitors. The topic is very slippery and the main thing here is not to spoil the fever so as not to harm modern relations between peoples. Therefore, I only welcome this position of scientists, balanced and largely fair:
    At the same time, Israeli scholars agreed with the Poles that "the term" Polish death camps "prohibited by the new law in relation to German objects in the occupied territory does not correspond to the historical truth."
  23. 0
    28 January 2018 22: 59
    And what about Tukhol camp? Whose death camp is this?
  24. +1
    28 January 2018 23: 03
    When the ghetto burned
    When the ghetto burned
    Warsaw was amazed
    Four consecutive days.
    And there was so much cod
    And there was so much light
    And people said:
    - The bugs are on fire.

    And after a quarter century
    Two wise people
    Sat behind a bottle
    Good wine
    And Janusz told me
    The Thinker and Colleague:
    - The Russians in front of Poland
    I have my own fault.

    Why are you in the 45th
    Standing in front of the Vistula?
    Warsaw is dying!
    Who will let her live?
    And I told him: - First
    Silenok was few,
    And it turned out, with the help of
    You can’t rush.

    - Warsaw Uprising
    Crushed and crushed
    The Warsaw Uprising
    Sunk in the blood.
    Better I die
    Than let my brother die
    With a great trembling voice
    My vis-a-vis said.

    And I told him this:
    - When the ghetto burned,
    When the ghetto burned
    Four consecutive days
    And there was so much cod
    And there was so much light
    And you all said:
    "The bugs are burning."

    Alexander Aronov, 1991
  25. 0
    28 January 2018 23: 05
    Comments can conditionally be divided into three groups: 1. How is the Holocaust of the Jews different from the destruction of other peoples by the Germans? 2. Why are Germans still paying compensation to Israel and the Jews? ; 3. The attitude of Jews and Poles in view of the Holocaust. I do not comment on the known lies about the words attributed to Weizmann because of a priori absurdity.
    Before touching the Holocaust of the Jews, let me remind you of the Holocaust of the Armenians. The Turks then killed the Armenians only because they were Armenians. Hitler, whom the generals warned about the reaction that would follow the extermination of the Jews, referred specifically to the mass extermination of Armenians, noting that no one paid attention to this. The Nazis destroyed both Russians and Belarusians and the same Poles, but some for resistance, some for sabotage, some as hostages for the actions of the partisans. But the Nazis destroyed Jews and Gypsies exclusively for their ethnicity. But if in relation to the Gypsies no special structure was created responsible for the complete destruction of them, as a people, then such was created for the Jews. And it was led by Adolf Eichmann. The decision on a "final solution to the Jewish question" was made at the Wannsee Conference. According to the results, they decided to destroy her protocol. But the waiter put a carbon copy under the tablecloth. So everything is documented, and all the documentation about the mass extermination of precisely the Jews has been preserved. According to the results of World War II, each of the countries of Europe conducted a post-war census. Including Jews, from there the figure. Although of course this figure also includes Jewish soldiers and officers killed in battles and those killed in the bombing, shelling, and blockades. It's true. The rest: links to sources a la protocols of Zion wise men.
    Now about why the Germans pay Jews. But, in the first country winners received restitution and reparations. Countries subjected to German aggression took their German territories. Now with regards to the Jews. Jews in Germany and Austria were wealthy citizens and had, as was customary to talk about capitalists: factories, and ships, as well as banks. The Nazis issued the law "on the Arias of property." Everything was confiscated and turned into Reich income. The Germans are pedantic guys, they know very well how much they took and hiccuped in Swiss banks. And they gave much less. No one found anything from the property confiscated from the Jews. As we say, the Russians did not find the "amber room". 3. Now about the Poles and the Jews. In principle, everything that is written about the Poles in the comments on the article is fairly objective. I’ll add on my own that, nevertheless, in Yad Vashem, the righteous of the world are most of all among the Poles .....
  26. 0
    29 January 2018 00: 05
    If not for the Holocaust, then Hitler's birthday would be a national holiday in Europe.
    By the way, how do the Jews relate to the same Baltic states? Those, too, they were genocidal.
    In general, everything goes to the new Hitler, only from what country he will be from ...
  27. 0
    29 January 2018 00: 55
    Quote: Rogue1812
    Now about why the Germans pay Jews. But, in the first country winners received restitution and reparations. Countries subjected to German aggression took their German territories. Now with regards to the Jews. Jews in Germany and Austria were wealthy citizens and had, as was customary to talk about capitalists: factories, and ships, as well as banks. The Nazis issued the law "on the Arias of property." Everything was confiscated and turned into Reich income. The Germans are pedantic guys, they know very well how much they took and hiccuped in Swiss banks. And they gave much less. No one found anything from the property confiscated from the Jews. As we say, the Russians did not find the "amber room". 3. Now about the Poles and the Jews. In principle, everything that is written about the Poles in the comments on the article is fairly objective. I’ll add from myself that, nevertheless, in Yad Vashem, the righteous of the world are most of all among the Poles ...

    In the film "Schindler's list" there is a moment in the film where Jews hide gold in the wall of the apartment, and the Germans then find it .... Most likely a lot of things were not documented, since the Jews themselves hid money and gold from outsiders (Nazis), as well the film shows how the Jews paid off from the Nazi persecution ..... What can I say, but what has been documented has already been returned or not taken at all, since rich Jews simply took out property that they could not take out, give away or bought back Jews from the Nazis ..... Business for Lives!
    ps not rich Jews just destroyed, they had nothing to pay, only life .....
  28. 0
    29 January 2018 06: 14
    The Second World War, in fact, began with the occupation of Czechoslovakia and Poland took an active part in it.
  29. +1
    29 January 2018 08: 26
    The Poles can arbitrarily call guano jam and eat them with ladles, figuring, however, guano will remain guano, even though it is forbidden to call it that. In the hands of Poland, participation in the genocide of Russians and Jews. We are trying very hard to wash ourselves off from this, but we and the Jews will carefully remind the whole world about this.
  30. BAI
    0
    29 January 2018 08: 56
    Only in Poland and in the occupied territories of the USSR over 90% of Jews were exterminated. In Germany itself less. In Spain, Finland - not a single one. Such extremes. Only where Goebbels managed to put an equal sign between Jews and the Soviet regime they were cut out without exception (first of all, according to denunciations of neighbors). How Finland managed to fight back is not clear.
  31. 0
    29 January 2018 10: 52
    By the way, about genocide.
    Type in the search engine "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution", "Russia in Crooked Mirrors."
    Something like that.

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