Caucasian affairs

I. Azerbaijan: Fruit War or Third World War?


Since 16 April, Rosselkhoznadzor has introduced restrictions on the import of plant products in hand baggage in the baggage of Azerbaijani, Tajik and Uzbek passengers. Such a strict measure (the Rosselkhoznadzor warned about its introduction back in March) was adopted because of the frequent detection in the baggage of guests from abroad of various pests.

“According to the ministry, from 2011 to March of the current year, when supplying quarantine products from Azerbaijan, 9 cases of detection of quarantine objects for Russia were detected, 130 cases from Uzbekistan, 228 cases from Tajikistan.

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Pests were detected both in product consignments and in hand luggage of passengers. However, products in hand luggage are not accompanied by phytosanitary certificates, respectively, and the risks of importing pests in this case are higher ”("Messenger of the Caucasus").

Russian political scientist Oleg Kuznetsov believes that there can be no such fruit war, and that all emerging or aggravated fruit issues can be resolved in a bureaucratic manner: “For Azerbaijan, supplying its agricultural products to the international market does not have a serious meaning. Thus, forcing Baku to make any global concessions, for example, by imposing a ban on the import of citrus fruits or pomegranates from Azerbaijan into Russia, is at least silly. Yes, this could have a negative impact on the situation of Azerbaijani farmers or the Azerbaijani diaspora in Russia, half of which is engaged in the wholesale and retail trade of agricultural products. But this will not affect the economy of Azerbaijan or Russia. We have, of course, opportunities to aggravate bilateral relations, but what is their meaning? Therefore, I do not think that a trade war between Russia and Azerbaijan is possible ”("Vesti.az", Bahram Batyev). Kuznetsov believes that Azerbaijan’s sanitary control is sufficiently strengthened, and the problem will be solved.

However, the issue of the “fruit war” between Azerbaijan and Russia is being discussed in the Russian and Azerbaijani media not by accident. In fact, why are we not talking about trade wars between, say, Russia and Tajikistan: after all, the Rosselkhoznadzor has registered the maximum number of cases of pest importation in hand-luggage by Tajik guests?

The fact is that in recent years (or more precisely, in 2009-2012) the friendship of Azerbaijan with the United States and Israel is getting stronger. And these three countries became friends on militaristic grounds. Hence, speculation, and rumors about a trade war.

Israel and the United States are very interested in Iran, which is implementing a program of a peaceful atom, which seems to Tel Aviv and Washington to be not completely peaceful. Israel has long been talking about a close war with Iran: it is assumed that anti-bunker bombs are being bombarded by Israeli and American Iranian nuclear facilities, either this year or next. However, Israel is afraid to act in the region without allies - and is generally afraid to enter into such a dangerous war without the United States. And the United States is on the eve of the elections and is in no hurry to fight. Perhaps Washington, remembering Hiroshima and Nagasaki, is not at all interested in the war with Iran - at least in its own direct participation in it - and therefore even discourages Tel Aviv from pouring it into a bottle. But Tel Aviv is afraid that Tehran is about to make an atomic bomb. What to do? How to be - and whom to take in allies? Here, we could take as an ally someone who could hide behind small America with its bunker bombs breaking through 6 meters of reinforced concrete!

Azerbaijan turned out to be a political actor suitable for the role of mutual ally.

Strategically, this is the perfect choice. Just look at the map of the region. The border is with Iran, and on the other hand, with Russia. And next to it, Georgia is also a great friend of America and NATO. Access to the Caspian Sea - and the opportunity in the near future (with the help of the USA and Israel, of course) to compete with the Russian fleet, which is far from being as strong as in the days of the USSR.

The Russian naval fleet in the Caspian “lags behind other fleets in some modern types of weapons and communications. Say, as StrategyPage analytic website reports, the recent sensational weapons $ 1,6 billion contract between Baku and Tel Aviv includes Azerbaijan’s purchase of Israeli Gabriel anti-ship missiles with a range of up to 36 km. These missiles have increased accuracy, they are difficult to destroy. Heron and Searcher strike drones (UAVs), as well as electronic reconnaissance equipment, as well as several Green Pine radar stations, were purchased for the Azerbaijani army from Israel. These stations are part of the Israeli Arrow-2 missile defense system, which will also be delivered to Azerbaijan over time. Similar types of weapons are only being created in Russia.

In 2011, a factory for the production of UAVs was built by Israel near Baku. Orbiter drone production has been already established (range to 50 km, cost is about 600 thousand dollars), and Aerostar drones are preparing for screwdriver assembly (200 km, 1,5 – 2 million dollars). Orbiter drones as part of calculations with the participation of Israeli specialists are already observing in the Caspian Sea, near oil fields disputed with Iran and Turkmenistan, as well as on the land border of Azerbaijan with Karabakh and Iran.

Hermes-450 UAVs UAVs, which have proven themselves in intelligence operations on the eve of Georgia’s aggression against South Ossetia, also participate in monitoring the Caspian Sea and land borders. Azerbaijan acquired 10 of such drones from an Israeli company in 2009 – 2012. These drones can be equipped with strike weapons such as air-to-air or air-to-ground and air-to-sea missiles, as well as electronic warfare.

Heron, for example, theoretically could fly 14,8 thousand. Km. If Baku says that this weapon is not directed against Iran, but is exclusively prepared for war for Karabakh, then why, one wonders, buy a UAV that flies a distance of five to six times more than the most distant Armenia from Azerbaijan? "(Nezavisimaya Gazeta, Sergey Konovalov).

Israel cooperates with Azerbaijan in the creation of an electronic intelligence system on the territory of the latter, but also in the creation of a satellite system that can significantly facilitate military operations in the Caspian region.

As a result, the gloomy scenario of a third world war appears to be looming. Alexander Knyazev, a senior researcher at the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences, believes that “the emergence of military conflicts in the Caspian will mean“ without any exaggeration and pathos, the beginning of another world war involving the entire space of Central Eurasia ”(Nezavisimaya Gazeta, Sergey Konovalov).

Another quote: “... about preparations for specific military actions against Iran, including the launch of a preemptive strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities, is indicated, in particular, by a report recently published by the American publication Foreign Policy with reference to informed sources in the USA about allegedly reached agreements between Israel and Azerbaijan. It is about getting Israel the opportunity to use a number of mothballed Azerbaijani military airfields located along the border with Iran. Apparently, Azerbaijan could allow the Israeli Air Force to use these airfields for landing after the bombing of Iranian territory. If there were no airfields in Azerbaijan, the Israelis would have to rely on refueling aircraft, which they have only a few units. According to retired American General Joe Hoar, this greatly simplifies the task of the Israeli aviationsince one of the main obstacles to bombing Iran is removed - a significant distance separating the two countries. The savings will be approximately 1,5 thousand km. Despite the official refutation of this information by the military department of Azerbaijan, it is similar to the truth, since many analysts note that even official cooperation between Israel and Azerbaijan is developing rapidly: Israel is the second largest buyer of Azerbaijani oil, and Baku is actively buying the Israeli military equipment ”(Nezavisimaya Gazeta, Oleg Nikiforov).

Against the background of the gloomy scenario about the “third world war”, written by Israel in co-authorship with the USA and supported, apparently, by Azerbaijan, which the leading experts on geopolitical casting assigned one of the main roles, Baku monstrously inflated the rental prices of the Gabala radar station (tenant Russia): from 7 to ... 300 million dollars.

Political analyst Oleg Kuznetsov refers to such economic plans of Azerbaijan rather calmly: “I think that after the inauguration of Vladimir Putin, all the issues of renting a military base in Gabala by Russia will be resolved. Naturally, the price that was initially offered by Russia will not be paid, since it is already unacceptable for Azerbaijan. But Moscow will not pay the exorbitant amount requested by Baku. Most likely, the parties will come to a compromise solution. The price will be set at the level of the first requests of Baku, when it raised the rent payment twice, compared to the current one ”("Vesti.az", Bahram Batyev).

In this context, the opinion of well-known Armenian military expert Artsrun Hovhannisyan is also interesting:

“From a technical point of view, according to Hovhannisyan, the Gabala radar does not bring any benefit, the station needs, if not a replacement, then at least serious modernization, and the proposal of the Armenian side to deploy a new station on its territory was done very timely. He pointed to the fact that in terms of the trajectory of the radar, Armenia even has an advantage over Azerbaijan, since the coverage in this country can be wider.

At the same time, the specialist expressed the opinion that the problem of the Gabala radar station is not so much military as political. “If Azerbaijan continues to insist on a new rent figure, it’s very possible that Russia will refuse the radar, but I think the problem is more political and with proper political bargaining, Baku is likely to retreat from its position. Russia does not need so much the outdated Gabala, as this little garrison in the territory of Azerbaijan ”("Nezavisimaya Gazeta" with reference to "REGNUM").

The price increase, therefore, is aimed at political weakening of Russia in the Caspian region - and its complete nullification in Azerbaijan. It appears that Azerbaijan has appointed a new rental price not for reasons of super-profit, but solely for political reasons: seeking to reject the Russian Federation from renting the Gabala radar station. Therefore, it is likely that Baku, which is actively assisted by the United States and Israel, will not make price concessions, and Moscow will have to rent an outdated radar station and abandon the “little garrison”.

In addition, Azerbaijan, a NATO partner, is expanding cooperation with the North Atlantic Alliance.

At the international conference "The importance of the Chicago NATO summit: new opportunities for the Euro-Atlantic partnership" in Baku, the head of the department of international military cooperation of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, Major General Ramiz Najafov, stated that "in the framework of cooperation with NATO, military reforms are being implemented in Azerbaijan, in accordance with the standards NATO conducts training for Azerbaijani soldiers, as well as military exercises. Azerbaijan is contributing to the international operations of the Peacekeeping Alliance in various regions of the world ... Thus, the Azerbaijani soldiers took part in peacekeeping operations in Kosovo and Iraq, and today Azerbaijan continues to contribute to ensuring security and stability in Afghanistan, rendering this country humanitarian and financial assistance "("1news.az", Rasim Babayev, V. T.).

According to Najafov, “airfields, warships of Azerbaijan are aligned with NATO standards. R. Najafov also said that the subject of the Defense Policy and Strategy course was started at the Academy of the Armed Forces ("Vesti.az").

It is clear that Baku is pursuing its own interests - the same peacekeeping as any interests of NATO. At the same conference, Deputy Head of Security Affairs at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan, Gai Mammadov, said:

"Azerbaijan is in conflict with Armenia, and in this context, the application of NATO standards in the National Army of Azerbaijan is facing certain problems, therefore Azerbaijan needs assistance from the Alliance" ... As Mamedov concluded, Azerbaijan expects NATO to strengthen its role in establishing peace and stability in the region "(IA "REGNUM").

Iran in exchange for Armenia?

Thus, renting the Gabala radar station for big money or blockade of unsanitary hand luggage can be a link in one chain: while Russia has almost no influence on Azerbaijan, except for complicating life with private fruit shuttle traders, then Baku has, of course, Israel , The USA and NATO - there is a significant potential for weakening Moscow’s position in the Caspian region.

Ii. Armenia is a friend of the CSTO and NATO. Or NATO and CSTO

Against the background of the old Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, more than one Azerbaijan is moving closer to NATO. It seems that all the former post-Soviet space rushed into this organization. And Armenia does not lag behind Azerbaijan, Georgia or Moldova.

April 12 held a conference on “NATO and new trends in the modern world” in Yerevan. It was organized by the Analytical Center for Globalization and Regional Cooperation. The conference was attended by the Chairman of the Board of the Analytical Center Stepan Grigoryan, a representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Armenia Gagik Hovhannisyan, the British Ambassador to Armenia Catherine Leach and representatives from different countries.

As the "ArmInfo", the conference was opened by Stepan Grigoryan, who noted the importance of developing relations between Armenia and the North Atlantic Alliance. He said: “Society and the country as a whole should know the world better in order to make the right choice with different tasks in the future. In the 1949 year of NATO members there were only 12, to date, 28 countries are members of NATO, and many more are willing to join the alliance. Armenia provided NATO with troops for the peacekeeping operation in Afghanistan, which proved its support and interest in world political processes. ”

Seven years ago, Armenia and NATO signed the so-called “Individual Action Plan within the framework of cooperation between Armenia and NATO”. Collaborating parties are now implementing part of this plan, envisaged at 2011-2013.

Let us ask ourselves: why does Armenia need NATO? Moreover, two months ago, an agreement was signed between Russia and Azerbaijan on the creation of military-industrial complex enterprises in the region. (However, still, of course, it is too early to judge its effectiveness). Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia Tigran Sargsyan told the correspondent "Independent newspaper" Alexander Deryabin has the following: “There are several components of Armenia’s cooperation with NATO. This is, firstly, the technical assistance that we receive from NATO during the modernization of our army, secondly, the training programs of our servicemen, and thirdly, participation in joint projects - our doctors, for example, were in Kosovo. But this is insignificant cooperation in comparison with those partnership programs that operate in our framework of the CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organization. - O. Ch.). Armenia’s interaction with NATO and the CSTO is a qualitatively different level of integration. Yes, we are striving to establish good relations with NATO, but we do not have deep and long-range goals in this cooperation. Our priority is the CSTO. The mere fact that there is a Russian military base in Armenia, and in 2010, we extended the period of its stay, testifies to our military preferences. ”

Let me remind you that the Collective Security Treaty was signed on 15 May 1992 of the year - due to the growing tensions on the Tajik-Afghan border. The CSTO currently includes Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. The content of the CSTO is paid by Russia. Thus, Armenia, participating in both the CSTO and NATO, is pursuing an ambiguous policy in some way, and, it seems, has recently been inclined towards NATO.

The fact is that at one time “six members of the CSTO (Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan) under one pretext or another (and, of course, each for their own reasons) declined from formally recognizing the independence of the two former Georgian autonomy.

Since September 2008, much has changed in both the international and the Eurasian agenda. However, the CSTO members have not made any progress in recognizing the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Moreover, after August 2008, some of Russia's neighbors were frankly frightened.

Diseases of young nation states? Of course. Artificial phobias and fanned fears? Present and this factor. Not without the desire of the national elites of the post-Soviet countries to maneuver between Moscow and Washington ”(RIA "Novosti", Sergey Markedonov).

The “tacking” described above is an ordinary preference of the stronger to the weaker. Both Armenia and the United States seem to be strong in both Armenia and Azerbaijan, and not the CSTO and Russia.
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  1. Kangarli April 16 2012 09: 38 New
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    Gabriel anti-ship missiles with a range of up to 36 km

    Gabriel-4 has a range of 200 km. Azerbaijan bought Gabriel-5 at least with a range of 300 km.


    Israel is the second largest buyer of Azerbaijani oil, and Baku is actively purchasing Israeli military equipment ”

    They sell us weapons to protect 40% which they buy from us.
    1. 755962
      755962 April 16 2012 09: 58 New
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      That the fruit war, that the cheese is the essence of one, is a tool or a lever of foreign policy.
      1. Azeri-Turk
        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 10: 10 New
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        it will not work with Azerbaijan. The question is what will Azerbaijan answer. This is an interesting question.
        1. 755962
          755962 April 16 2012 11: 57 New
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          what will Azerbaijan answer.

          According to Defense sources, with reference to military sources, the construction of a base in accordance with NATO standards will begin for the Azerbaijani Navy in the Garadagh region.

          For this purpose, initial design work has already begun. Within the framework of this project, the modernization of the Azerbaijani Navy has begun. The ships are equipped with recently acquired, modern radars and surveillance systems, as well as various types of missile systems. In addition, the most modern anti-ship missiles Gabriel-5 were purchased for the Azerbaijani Navy in Israel, which significantly strengthened the country's position in the Caspian Sea.
          1. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 09 New
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            According to Defense sources, with reference to military sources, the construction of a base in accordance with NATO standards will begin for the Azerbaijani Navy in the Garadagh region.


            Not a tough answer to ban tomatoes?
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 15 New
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              Azeri Turk --- KILLED))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))
              1. Azeri-Turk
                Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 34 New
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                Quote: Yarbay
                Azeri Turk --- KILLED))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))

                Well, yes, something harshly happened. I'm already afraid to think if there is a real threat, probably they will buy an atomic bomb from Pakistan?
                1. dodil
                  dodil April 16 2012 12: 38 New
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                  Atomic tomatoes will grow)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) 0
                  1. Azeri-Turk
                    Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 59 New
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                    Quote: dodil
                    Atomic tomatoes will grow)))))))))))))))

                    Che Sholi bad? We will shower you with atomic tomatoes and you will become atomic Armenians.

                    True, we are not responsible for the consequences.

                    We will carry tomatoes with our drones in bags and toss in your territory with the words NUSH OLSUN. - bono appetite)
                    1. Flight Recorder
                      Flight Recorder April 16 2012 14: 40 New
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                      Leave this Asia alone, no matter how friendly peoples are towards Russia, some envious enemies and even with a different religion. Let them tear each other to shreds with the help of Americans, Israelis and our weapons. Considering their level of development, wars there they will always be. Russia just has to sell them the means of mutual destruction and to stomp this cauldron of interethnic contradictions. So far, in my opinion, this is not bad.
                      1. Azeri-Turk
                        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 43 New
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                        Quote: Flight Recorder
                        some envious enemies

                        and what do you have to envy you?
                      2. Flight Recorder
                        Flight Recorder April 16 2012 15: 07 New
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                        You are interested in thickness and length, do you want to compare?
                      3. Azeri-Turk
                        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 15: 20 New
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                        You are interested in thickness and length, do you want to compare?

                        Well, I don’t know, I never complained about the length or the width. and his face did not fall into the mud. Everyone was happy. I was alone from St. Petersburg, or rather, from Vladivostok I later moved to St. Petersburg, I said that I had never seen such length and thickness and was very pleased. It seems she was happy and there were not a few such cases.
                        I do not have a complex, everything is super. The quality of the goods was produced precisely with experts from Russia. Quality was rated by the highest brands. I am sure that many traders from Russia will support me.
                      4. Kangarli April 16 2012 20: 47 New
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                        The best gift for Russian girls is Azerbaijanis laughing laughing laughing
                      5. freedom
                        freedom April 16 2012 23: 58 New
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                        oh well, all sorts of market shmoni. they are either you, or drunkard, or homeless.
                      6. Azeri-Turk
                        Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 10: 15 New
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                        oh well, all sorts of market shmoni. they are either you, or drunkard, or homeless.


                        Maybe you are with such people, I won’t even get on such people. If I show you how it was you drooling.

                        the general director works.

                        Those who urinate on the wall, as they say, I have no business with. I have not found myself in the trash. What can I not say about you once you write this .... Usually, who doubts betrayal? One who is capable of betrayal.

                        So you, along the way, can deal with alcoholics and homeless people.

                        I have one habit of taking pictures and taking every step of my life, so no need.
                      7. freedom
                        freedom April 17 2012 12: 29 New
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                        Judging by your avatar, you are already urinating. Perverts also like to take pictures of everything, but they are usually impotent. A mentally normal person will not praise his "dignity" on every corner. A normal woman will not voluntarily get involved with a market stranger! smile
                      8. Anonymous
                        Anonymous April 17 2012 13: 53 New
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                        A normal woman will not voluntarily get involved with a market stranger!


                        Wow, so how many crazy women do you get then?
                2. SAVA555.IVANOV
                  SAVA555.IVANOV April 17 2012 12: 30 New
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                  YOU WILL DISAPPEAR FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH IF YOU THINK THOUGHT, TRAIN ON THE DONKEY !!!
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 16 2012 14: 46 New
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        Halal Olsun Zema))))))))))))))))))))))
  • Azeri-Turk
    Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 04: 10 New
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    I said that Azerbaijan will adequately respond to the tomato war from Russia? Here is the result. Only sure the explosions will be very common. Until the Kremlin understands that even the poorest merchant, our total


    and a peaceful reason, such as a leak or something else, can be fabricated.
  • Trailer April 16 2012 09: 39 New
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    Any creep of these countries towards NATO is solved very simply. The ban on entry of labor migrants, or the supply of products from these countries. Politics is one thing, but economics is much more important! And more effective!
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 16 2012 09: 47 New
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      It’s completely ineffective for Azerbaijan, but effective for Armenia!
      1. Azeri-Turk
        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 10: 13 New
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        So they survived until the days when Armenia decided also in NATO. I wonder how the Kremlin comrades will perceive this.
        1. 755962
          755962 April 16 2012 12: 03 New
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          Armenia also decided in NATO

          Armenia does not seek membership in NATO, but effectively cooperates with this organization. Armenian President Robert Kocharian said this today in Helsinki, where he gave a lecture as part of his official visit to Finland at the Alexander Institute, a special institution of the University of Helsinki that studies the problems of Russia and Eastern Europe. This is a dual position.
          1. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 13 New
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            Some kind of dual position is obtained.


            I wrote more than once that the union of Armenians and Russia is not sincere and not friendly. If Russia stands in the direction of Azerbaijan on the Karabakh issue, considering where the lobby of the Armenians is and who feeds them with fish, then Saakashvili will seem like an angel compared to Serge Sakisyan. And in a short time, NATO headquarters for the Caucasus region with the American missile defense will be in Armenia. It is a fact. The only thing that connects Armenia and Russia is the Karabakh issue.

            Since the Armenians have nothing to take. The only thing that is needed from the Armenians is the existence of an outpost.

            Everything that could be taken from the Armenians has already been taken. And the Armenians so hoped that Russia would write off their debts. That's why they quietly sharpen their teeth on Russia.

            And you just need to read the Armenian forum what the Armenians write when Russia sells weapons to Azerbaijan.

            There, every curse against Russia for 1 kopeck)))
          2. Arayikus
            Arayikus April 18 2012 16: 30 New
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            Well, you persecute ... why is it that President ROBERT KOCHARYAN became?)))
        2. CCCP1980
          CCCP1980 April 16 2012 22: 41 New
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          POVESILIT XOCHET
          1. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 23: 03 New
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            Here we have some fun!
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 23: 19 New
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              Does Serge look good? What do you think?
              He must be sent to the next part of the Lord of the Rings movie.
              1. CCCP1980
                CCCP1980 April 17 2012 11: 26 New
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                a po tvoemu alieva kuda poslat. v cirk k klouna
                1. Azeri-Turk
                  Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 11: 33 New
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                  a po tvoemu alieva kuda poslat. v cirk k klouna

                  Where to send Aliyev? Have your kind. Where else. To have Armenian women. You can send him both your mother and sister. Aliyev may throw something to you, otherwise you will die of hunger.
            2. CCCP1980
              CCCP1980 April 17 2012 11: 40 New
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              dengi est uma ne nado
    2. Azeri-Turk
      Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 10: 08 New
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      A huge power called Russia, its only pressure on Azerbaijan, the fruit war. .
      Comrades KhAI also gathered in NATO? Is Russia really losing its FORPOST?

      How will Baku respond to the fruit war by Russia? In the process, they will raise the price from 300 to 500, or maybe they will give the green light to the trans-Caspian pipeline, refuse to purchase military equipment from Russia, cancel the contract for energy resources to Russia, or maybe all together.
  • Torus April 16 2012 10: 20 New
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    Russia has too large an Azerbaijani fifth column, which it would be nice to get rid of before the start of serious events in the Caucasus.
    Does Russia need to intervene in a possible conflict centered on Iran? Most likely, in my opinion, it is not worth it, if only we do not want to completely occupy Georgia. In this case, it is possible to divide the Caucasus with Iran - it is Azerbaijan, Georgia to us. Moreover, Azerbaijan is the former northern province of Iran, conquered from Russia by Russia.
    Turkey, of course, does not like this alignment and Iran will have to deal with them. But, on the other hand, if Turkey had not already taken an anti-Iranian and pro-NATO stance, Azerbaijan would never have decided on independent tricks.
    1. Kangarli April 16 2012 10: 31 New
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      Moreover, Azerbaijan is the former northern province of Iran, conquered from Russia by Russia.


      fool
      1. Azeri-Turk
        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 10: 48 New
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        Do not worry. Many here do not know the story, and if they know it is far from true. Sumgait’s theme alone is worth it. You show them a video, a video in which the Russian security forces were shot, and they say there is no black kifir)))))) So do not be nervous.

        There was enough information posted, and those who need to know where the truth is and where the lie. So, our task is to send our fellow countryman that information, to those people who are able to think, decide fairly, think, are not afraid to speak their thoughts and ideas. These are signs of a real person.

        And sometimes you have to see a picture where, in order not to write, not to show, they say Sumgayit is genocide and period. All. I don't want to hear anything.

        You should not communicate with such people. Many here think that Iran is something with something, I think the fellow countryman, you remember how they, with their flying coffins, troughs, crossed the airspace of Azerbaijan, about 10 years ago, when the squadron flew from Turkey, they pulled their tail back.

        The situation today is as follows. The Russian anti-aircraft complex C300 Favorit and Israeli air defense, which covers the skies of Israel, these are 2 powerful weapons + Azerbaijan purchased the latest upgraded MIGs and Sushi, plus there are also old twinks 31. If you haven’t noticed since then, they’re no longer in such an adventure they climb. They rely on their missiles, but Azerbaijan also has an answer against this.

        So God is with us.
        1. dodil
          dodil April 16 2012 11: 06 New
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          You are already "Azeri-Turk")))))))))
          Waking up national self-determination, under Israeli tambourines)))))))))
          1. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 20 New
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            In order for you not to be smart, open Google and write.

            1. Azerbaijanis in Israel
            2. Azerbaijanis in parliament (xenet)
            3. Who is Yosef Chagall
            4. The number of immigrants from Azerbaijan to Israel.
            5. The number of Israelis visiting Azerbaijan.

            I am sure you will be shocked. If you have a gram of conscience do not write to me. I hope you have a conscience, honor and self-esteem.
            1. dodil
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              I'm shocked ))))))
            2. igor67 April 16 2012 12: 10 New
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              1. Azeri-Turk
                Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 35 New
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                Good afternoon, Igor. How are you? Yesterday we talked about the Armenians. Well watched the videos? Hope enjoyed it.
                1. igor67 April 16 2012 13: 03 New
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                  about Baku, Yes, thank you! I looked with your countrywoman she did not recognize the city
                  1. Azeri-Turk
                    Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 13: 17 New
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                    Quote: igor67
                    about Baku, Yes, thank you! I looked with your countrywoman she did not recognize the city


                    Believe me, the Armenians will not recognize our army :) As much as it has become professional and modernized.

                    Have you seen the Echo of Sumgait and the atrocities of Armenians? I gave you videos directly who filmed were Russian citizens and independent experts.

                    Happy to help.
                    1. igor67 April 16 2012 13: 29 New
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                      I’m just curious on this topic, the Russians blame the Azerbaijanis, the next, the Ukrainians are bad, the Jews were to blame for everything, the Armenians and everyone got it, but gentlemen, the Russians have all these hu ----------- maybe it came time to pay attention to yourself, self-criticism has not harmed anyone yet, with respect!
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay April 16 2012 13: 46 New
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                        Dear Igor!
                        I read many Russian forums! Believe that this forum has more or less adequate users!
                        I mean, a considerable percentage of sober-minded people!
                        And the fact that many proceed from the interests of their country is normal!
                        The question is different, but whether this or that decision is really good for the benefit of your country or not is quite a moot point!
                      2. Azeri-Turk
                        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 13: 52 New
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                        I don’t know Igor, how to thank you for fair posts?
                        Come visit us in Baku) You will see with your own eyes who is who.
                      3. dodil
                        dodil April 16 2012 13: 54 New
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                        At the same time, look - who invented the fire. And stuffed cabbage.
                        Be very surprised wink
                      4. igor67 April 16 2012 14: 10 New
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                        at the same time and dumplings.
                      5. dodil
                        dodil April 16 2012 14: 13 New
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                        Maybe, although Omar did not claim dumplings.
                        till ... laughing
                      6. igor67 April 16 2012 14: 25 New
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                        generally China
                      7. Azeri-Turk
                        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 29 New
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                        Only quotes are nothing superfluous. Now for the clarification of blood, nothing personal is just a quote, with which a very small part. Armenians are a conglomeration of different peoples and beliefs - as detailed in a special study by the Armenian scientist K.E. Grigoryan, (KE Grigoryan “The verges of identity. Sociocultural borderland as a factor in the formation of ethnic self-awareness (on the example of sub-ethnic groups of Armenians)”. Moscow, 2006.). The Armenian poet Yeghishe Charents owns the words: “In us, hypocrisy appears in the womb". English traveler Wilson: The Armenians are greedy, greedy and vile, they do not respect anyone. They are masters of inflating all sorts of little things, lovers of intrigue Moses Khorensky wrote that “like at the present time, in the past hai did not have any interest in the sciences, in the songs passed on through the lips.Therefore, it is superfluous to talk about theft of food, about the demented, ignorant and wild people. ”From the last one, with people like you, I don’t enter into polemics and don’t appeal
    2. Indigo
      Indigo April 16 2012 21: 46 New
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      Dirty harry (kasparov) - is that also from that company?
      1. late
        late April 20 2012 13: 37 New
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        Yes, his West bought with giblets, you listen to him and think, why Kasparov hates Russia?
  • SAVA555.IVANOV
    SAVA555.IVANOV April 17 2012 12: 41 New
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    Tomorrow the vagina will sew itself and scream about bad customers. It will be transformed !!!!! laughing
  • FREGATENKAPITAN April 16 2012 11: 12 New
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    Gentlemen, Azerbaijanis ..... you can dream and talk about anything ... the fact remains that the Armenians stuck in you well in due time ...... you lost Karabakh, is also a fact ...... so that as they say write that hotota-paper (in this case the monitor) will endure everything .....after the fight they don’t wave their fists
    1. kNow
      kNow April 16 2012 11: 13 New
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      Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
      after the fight


      Is the fight over?
      1. dodil
        dodil April 16 2012 11: 20 New
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        Well, if "shadow boxing" is considered a fight, then no)))))
        1. kNow
          kNow April 16 2012 11: 22 New
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          Quote: dodil
          a fight with a shadow


          then do not howl about withdrawing snipers laughing
          1. dodil
            dodil April 16 2012 11: 39 New
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            Then it will be too late
            1. synchrophasatron
              synchrophasatron April 16 2012 11: 43 New
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              I'm scary am wassat
          2. CCCP1980
            CCCP1980 April 17 2012 11: 34 New
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            kNow,
            a po tvoemu vashi ne gibnut ot ruk nashix snayperov.gibnut i na mnogo bolshe.
            no mi vsegda za mir i xotim otvod snayperov
            1. Anonymous
              Anonymous April 17 2012 13: 49 New
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              there will never be peace with you. remember that.
            2. kNow
              kNow April 19 2012 07: 42 New
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              Quote: CCCP1980
              mi vsegda za mir


              what hypocrisy however ...
              1. CCCP1980
                CCCP1980 April 19 2012 21: 51 New
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                kNow,
                VASHA NENOVEST NE SDELAET VAM SILNEE A POGUBIT
                ESLI VI TAKIE MIROLYUBIVIE POCHEMU NE OTVODITE SNAYPEROV
                Quote: kNow
                what hypocrisy however ...

                LICEMER ETO I VAM PODOBNIE sudarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr yes
                1. MinNatSec
                  MinNatSec April 19 2012 23: 53 New
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                  Quote: CCCP1980
                  ESLI VI TAKIE MIROLYUBIVIE POCHEMU NE OTVODITE SNAYPEROV


                  Tell me 3 reasons why snipers should be taken away and I will tell you 1 reason why they should not only shoot snipers and start a war.
                2. CCCP1980
                  CCCP1980 April 21 2012 19: 55 New
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                  chtobi ne ubivat drug druga est mnogo prichin
                  nu davay ti nazavi svayu prichinu omar
        2. Arayikus
          Arayikus April 18 2012 16: 59 New
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          Well, your snipers this is your meanness ... a worthy warrior should not brag about it (of course, if there is nothing more ((()
          1. kNow
            kNow April 19 2012 07: 41 New
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            Quote: Arayikus
            Well, your snipers this is your meanness ...


            is a sniper in war a meanness? and the SS President-Infanticide is what?
            1. Arayikus
              Arayikus April 22 2012 17: 56 New
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              do not drive tuffffffffffffffft ... what kind of war? What kind of child killer, where is the proof? So what the hell is your Aliev Monumentovich negotiating with the "child killer" and shaking hands? You whet the ax, only you can wet the sleeping one (((((((
      2. FREGATENKAPITAN April 17 2012 09: 52 New
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        Fight? The fight ended a long time ago .... verbiage remained .... oh, what an army we have ....... oh how Israel loves us ..... the mentality has not changed ..... neither you nor among Armenians ........
        One of them, too, pounded on his chest with his heels ..... He poured mud on Russia, boasted of his army ... apparently he thought that American camouflage and Israeli drones make the army invincible ... then he had to bite his tie ..... the ruined Russian army a week showed who is who .....
        1. ariel
          ariel 17 June 2012 10: 13 New
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          elephant and pug? there were no proportional forces. but well done Georgians said and did their own, and Russia had a lot of losses, well, you still can’t prove
          P.S. anyway, everyone will remain at his own.
    2. Azeri-Turk
      Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 41 New
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      Quote: kNow
      Is the fight over?

      Airlie, Osumusculator plus goy. Bizdy Goyrug Xian. So, the fight is yet to come :)
      1. synchrophasatron
        synchrophasatron April 16 2012 11: 42 New
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        narahat olma gadasi smile
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 00 New
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        Gerdeshim bu pluslary yyhyb not edeksheksen?)))))))
        Gurbandy plyuslar Senin on the mother-of-pearl Gezlerue)))
        Senin plus uzre champion we go))
        1. Azeri-Turk
          Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 15 New
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          Quote: Yarbay
          Gerdeshim bu pluslary yyhyb not edeksheksen?)))))))
          Gurbandy plyuslar Senin on the mother-of-pearl Gezlerue)))
          Senin plus uzre champion we go))

          gardashim, just a new login to create is not a hunt)))))) RATING mushrooms. You have a negative rating, you will not be able to write soon. She is göra deiram, plus the goymag of lazimda ki, so that there are tenacious logins.

          Basha dyushdyun gardash?
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 31 New
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            Basha dushdyum))))))))))) I can not write ?? why ??
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 13: 00 New
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              Your rating, if it reaches -3000, you'll write with gardash restrictions. She is göra deiram. Hama bir birina plus goysun. Ozumyuskulyar of course.

              Good luck fellow countryman)
        2. freedom
          freedom April 17 2012 00: 04 New
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          So, Murdyes farts, create your own website, and there are gouldis. Do not forget, you are on a Russian-language site.
          1. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 04: 14 New
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            Quote: freedom
            So, Murdyes farts, create your own website, and there are gouldis. Do not forget, you are on a Russian-language site

            where did freedom of speech go? Democracy? But we are not forcing the Kicks of Russians to speak Azerbaijani in our own country and in our forums? So what's up?

            1. nmd_1
              nmd_1 April 17 2012 11: 41 New
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              Skotinka, you are in a strange house, have respect, do not sit here on your forums. Write in Russian or go to XEP.
              1. Azeri-Turk
                Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 11: 53 New
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                Quote: nmd_1
                Skotinka, you are in a strange house, have respect, do not sit here on your forums. Write in Russian or go to XEP

                I extend my left hand, hold my fist, raise my middle finger.
                Be patient!
                HOW WE ARE YOU PATIENTS. CATTLE!

                THIS IS THE SITE OF YOUR FATHER UUROODD? NO. SO STAR FROM HERE
              2. Yarbay
                Yarbay April 17 2012 12: 05 New
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                )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Oh Omar Omar !!)))))) ))))
          2. freedom
            freedom April 17 2012 12: 34 New
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            Photographer, damn it, if you force me to make you KickS to speak, you will advertise Chinese in my tomatoes
            1. Anonymous
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              Go ahead, and we'll see. )))
            2. freedom
              freedom April 17 2012 18: 39 New
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              You didn’t quite understand correctly, my friend, you will not be a spectator, you will be singing along. good
            3. Anonymous
              Anonymous April 17 2012 20: 02 New
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              I'm not your friend!
  • Arayikus
    Arayikus April 18 2012 16: 54 New
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    Graves named after Heydar Aliyev
    I will be honest: I have been thinking for a long time about whether to publish an article on this topic? Not at all because, of course, because I did not want to hurt the feelings of Ilham Aliyev and the unkind memory of Heydar Aliyev, it was precisely the feelings of these people that made me completely indifferent. I was stopped by the unwillingness to aggravate the wounds of mothers and wives, children of those young children, who, being forcibly sent from Azerbaijan to the Armenian mountains of Artsakh, remained forever in unknown graves. Even more, I did not want to arouse difficult memories from those parents of the indigenous peoples of Azerbaijan, whose young and innocent children sacrificed the Turkic interests of the Azerbaijani leadership to Moloch.

    It’s hard to write about it, but not to write is criminal. It’s criminal because the topic of “revanchism” is becoming more and more relevant in Azerbaijan, the cries of deserters, who are again ready to stay in safe offices in Baku, send young people to the massacre in Karabakh are increasingly heard. It’s criminal because the current hereditary president of Azerbaijan, like his late dad, wants to drown out the voice of protest against his tyranny in Azerbaijan with new blood in Artsakh. It’s criminal because the silence about Heydar Aliyev’s war crimes condones the new crimes of his son.
    In November 1991, I had to dig frozen ground on the territory of a television relay antenna in the Hadrut region of NKR. This was after a superbly organized military operation, during which our detachments liberated three Armenian villages and a mountain, at the top of which a relay station transformed by Azerbaijani riot police into a fortress was erected. In that battle, the Azerbaijani riot police surrendered to our guys, left us their weapons and were expelled from Artsakh under the supervision of the military commandant of the Special District. They were so happy about their miraculous salvation that they did not even remember the fallen colleagues, leaving us with worries about seven corpses. We had to bury people sent in Artsakh in order to kill our relatives and friends.

    Subsequently, similar stories were repeated more than once. Our children repeatedly had to bury the corpses of comrades abandoned by Azerbaijani warriors. Two, three corpses, and then tens and even hundreds. Some Azerbaijani askers were “lucky”, they were buried not yet cooled, but often they had to dig already decomposed corpses into the ground. And although they say that the corpse of the enemy always smells good, we must admit that the sight is heavy.

    Nevertheless, the harsh realities of the war, as well as the elementary concern for the sanitary condition of the battle territory, forced to neglect feelings and do hard work. I remember a comrade’s bitter joke: “Not only do you destroy them with a risk to life, but then you also bury them with a risk to health.” In these words of the real Warrior and Man, the truth of the past war is reflected. In the fall of 1992, the NKR Parliament’s Foreign Relations Commission even turned to the Azerbaijani side with a proposal to conclude a short-term ceasefire agreement in order to get the opportunity to bury hundreds of corpses of the attacking askers. There was no answer - Azerbaijan took this appeal as a request for a respite - and these and new corpses were buried after about a month. NEXT READ HERE. http://voskanapat.info/news/font_color_ff0000_mogily_imeni_gejdara_alieva_font_c
    olor_ff0000/2011-01-19-1059
    That's when they bury them humanly, then the "fight" (((
  • Azeri-Turk
    Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 39 New
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    Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
    Gentlemen, Azerbaijanis ..... you can dream and talk about anything ... the fact remains that the Armenians stuck you well in due time ...... you lost Karabakh, is also a fact ...... so that as they say write that hotota-paper (in this case the monitor) will endure everything ..... after the fight they don’t wave their fists


    Azerifob means :) I see. So they would have written right away.
    Well listen to Fregenstrauss you are ours. We still did not wave our fists. We still do gymnastics. I think from our gymnastics what kind of present-day Armenia do you already know, now imagine what will happen if we swing our fists? )))))))))))))))))
    1. FREGATENKAPITAN April 17 2012 10: 05 New
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      You are mistaken ..... I have a sea of ​​adequate friends, both Azerbaijanis and Armenians ...... you do good gymnastics, your health will be better ....... and you still cannot defeat Armenians .... .. understand the sense of national identity, etc. but such is life
      ... Yes, and I forgot .... you are terrible photos about the atrocities of Armenians ..... well, that’s not correct ..... Armenians can post as many such photos as possible ... only with the atrocities of Azerbaijanis ..... about Baku pogroms have not forgotten? Friends told me a lot of interesting things .... (remember, there was the Caspian VVMU)
      So, you have to be objective until the end .......
      1. Kamila
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        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        and you still won’t win the Armenians ....


        laughs whoever laughs last .....
        1. dodil
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          Sailors of the Red Banner Caspian Flotilla during the January events of 1990 in Baku.

          If you want to know about the tragedy in Baku in January 1990, then most likely it will be the Azerbaijani version of the “bloody Soviet invasion” that has been especially inflated recently in order to accuse Russia of genocide. However, their stories usually have a starting point on January 20, the date of the Soviet Army’s entry in Baku to stabilize the situation, and they forget about the pogroms of the Armenian population organized by Azerbaijanis on January 13 and lasted a week. By the way, the lists of “victims” of the Soviet Army, including, unfortunately, accidental and innocent victims, are quite easy to find on the Internet, but you are unlikely to find information about military personnel who died during the execution of the order. You will hardly find any information about the difficult situation in which the sailors of the Caspian naval flotilla found themselves in those days, but the authorities of the Azerbaijan Republic write a lot and eagerly about the “exploits” of the Azerbaijani sailors who blocked Baku and threatened to turn the whole city into a flaming torch. This publication is an attempt to talk about the role of Caspian sailors in those bloody events.

          Read here http://alerozin.narod.ru/Baku1990.htm
        2. Arayikus
          Arayikus April 18 2012 16: 42 New
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          gee !!!! steeply laughing laughing laughing laughing
      2. ariel
        ariel 17 June 2012 10: 15 New
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        Do you believe everything they tell you?
  • Arayikus
    Arayikus April 18 2012 16: 57 New
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    http://voskanapat.info/news/font_color_ff0000_mogily_imeni_gejdara_alieva_font_c
    olor_ff0000/2011-01-19-1059



    it would be better if they shut up. wink
  • ariel
    ariel 17 June 2012 10: 09 New
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    a fight ??? maybe a round?
  • Azeri-Turk
    Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 10: 35 New
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    Quote: Torus
    Russia has too huge Azerbaijani fifth column, which would be nice to get rid of


    and you didn’t think that Azerbaijan needed to get rid of a couple of not profitable contracts with Gazprom and other companies. These are not profitable contracts. The West could pay more.


    Quote: Torus
    Does Russia need to intervene in a possible conflict centered on Iran? Most likely, in my opinion, it’s not worth it

    Your look is correct.



    Quote: Torus
    In this case, it is possible to divide the Caucasus with Iran - it is Azerbaijan, Georgia to us.

    Dreaming. 30 million Azerbaijanis live there. Which by the way sharpen a tooth on Ahmednidzhat.

    If the Georgians read what you write, the commoner will be responsible for this in Russia. Do not cash in on enemies not only in the face of Georgian government, but also among the population. It will cost you dearly.

    Quote: Torus
    Moreover, Azerbaijan is the former northern province of Iran, conquered from Russia by Russia.

    The answer is not correct. Iran built its state on the territory of Azerbaijan. 30 million Azerbaijanis, in Iran they did not fall from the moon. The activity of Iran has long been suppressed by the security forces of Azerbaijan. Dont worry.

    Quote: Torus
    Turkey no longer took an anti-Iranian and pro-NATO stance, Azerbaijan would never have decided on independent tricks.

    Do you know what is the difference between Turkey and Azerbaijan and Russia and Belarus?

    Turkey and Azerbaijan, a single nation that supports each other in everything. And Russia in relation to its neighbors and fraternal peoples, shows far from fraternal attitude.

    Bati has more fraternal relations with Aliyev than with Putin or Medvedev.
    1. FREGATENKAPITAN April 16 2012 11: 05 New
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      The answer is not correct. Iran built its state on the territory of Azerbaijan. 30 million Azerbaijanis, in Iran they did not fall from the moon. The activity of Iran has long been suppressed by the security forces of Azerbaijan. Dont worry. .... you really forgive me dense .... The ancient Great States of Persia and Armenia I know, but Azerbaijan did not hear ...... probably it is the oldest mother-in-law ..... :)
      .... Several hundred million Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis live in America, Europe and Australia ........ according to your logic, these are all their ancient lands ...... + LOL +
      1. Azeri-Turk
        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 24 New
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        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        but Azerbaijan did not hear ...... probably it is the mother-in-law of old ..


        I will help you.

        Historical events of Azerbaijan. Ancient Azerbaijan
        http://azerbaijan.orexca.com/rus/azerbaijan_history.shtml

        Ancient maps of Azerbaijan
        http://www.history.az/ru/xerite/

        read on health. It would be possible without sarcasm.
        1. dodil
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          You mean the time when the Azerbaijanis were "under two meters tall, with blue eyes ...")))
      2. Kamila
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        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        I know the great states of Persia and Armenia, but Azerbaijan has not heard


        Apparently you have a very high coefficient AI CU .... therefore, they did not hear .... (((((((((((((((
      3. Azeri-Turk
        Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 04: 15 New
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        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        .Some hundreds of millions of Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis live in America, Europe and Australia ........ according to your logic, these are all their ancient lands ...... + LOL +

        Listen ignoramus, they began to live there in the 20th century, and ours since the time of its creation. Do you feel the difference?
    2. Trailer April 16 2012 11: 12 New
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      All right! But, what a pleasure! So it is that Belarus and Azerbaijan are economically connected not only with each other, but also with Russia. And if you press on these levers, then the first two will be soooo fun. Because of our differences, Russia will never allow its closest neighbors to free itself from its STRONG BROTHER HUGS!
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 04 New
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        how connected ??? what together release ?? what buy ?? what sell ??
        One lever is the Karabakh conflict! And this is its unsettledness!
    3. Torus April 16 2012 11: 19 New
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      Your look is correct.


      you do not poke me, doggy son
      1. Azeri-Turk
        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 43 New
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        Quote: Torus
        you do not poke me, doggy son

        HAVE BEEN NEARBY, for this word and you and your mother would put cancer and then torture you until you lose consciousness.
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          Honey with nuts ready tell the address immediately send. laughing

          Bellive quvvet)))
          1. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 17 New
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            Quote: Kangarli

            Bellive quvvet)))

            vuahahaha plus dear to you))))))) Every time I notice that everything is in order with Azerbaijani humor.
            It makes me happy. May God grant our country prosperity, the enemies of destruction and our people happiness and health. Amine.
          2. Vazgen one-eared
            Vazgen one-eared April 17 2012 23: 53 New
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            I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

            General rules on the site
            General rules of conduct on the site:


            To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

            Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

            On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

            Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

            Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

            Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

            We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

            Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

            The site is strictly prohibited:

            a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

            Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

            b) inciting ethnic hatred.

            When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

            The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
            This is for amateurs.

            Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
            There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

            THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

            God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

            Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

            TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

            Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
        2. biglow
          biglow April 16 2012 13: 53 New
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          you are probably afraid of your reflection in the mirror, you are our torturer
          1. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 15 New
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            Quote: biglow
            you're probably afraid of your reflection in the mirror

            another mole from GUAM?
            Come see how I'm afraid of my reflection. :)))))))))))))
            1. Argentum
              Argentum April 16 2012 23: 25 New
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              It seems to me alone that azeri-turk, know Kamil and vuvu are one schizophrenic who stupidly does not know history and minus comments against Azerbaijan for Armenia. Silly gentlemen, silly ...
              1. Azeri-Turk
                Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 23: 32 New
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                Quote: Argentum
                It seems to me alone that I'm schizophrenic

                you're definitely a schizophrenic, since you think that all these people are one person.
                When I knew my story, diapers changed for you, and along the way you don’t know my story at all.

                That's just silly to talk to you at all.
                1. Argentum
                  Argentum April 16 2012 23: 56 New
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                  Listen to my friend in this region, only Iran, Turkey (Ottomans), Georgia and Armenia are ancient countries, and the fact that you are one person is a no brainer. It’s better to go sell mandarins, at least some benefit to you will be to society, and everyone can litter the Internet.
                  1. Azeri-Turk
                    Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 04: 20 New
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                    Quote: Argentum
                    Listen buddy in this region only armenia ancient countries

                    Armenia is as ancient as my eggs.



                    Quote: Argentum
                    It’s better to go sell mandarins, at least some benefit to you will be to society, and everyone can litter the Internet.

                    Don’t worry about me. We have who to sell. And you better go and eat your vodka and quietly silently watch, even if you are a smart guy.

                    1. Argentum
                      Argentum April 17 2012 10: 57 New
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                      Already move on to insults, this is what you show your stupidity. You don’t know the story at all, in short, wait, you’ll soon fly to the bathhouse and by the way I suggest that the moderator or admin rub this whole * ah since the site is dedicated to military review, and then they go out and explain the relationship, in a ban like that right away. Azeri turk, I didn’t write that only Armenia ancient, I gave you a list of countries, but you are like a bull, stupidly attacking the one who wrote something for Armenia.
                    2. Azeri-Turk
                      Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 11: 15 New
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                      Already go to insults, this is what you show your stupidity

                      Dumb yourself and 2 times more. What I see and write. I WILL DIE STAND but live on my knees like you will not.
                      When I knew the story, you still went with diapers.

                      YOU DO NOT TAKE A HISTORY YOURSELF. I HERE SHOWN DOCHER FACTS AND DOCUMENTS ... YOUR SAME WHO ANCIENT AND WHO IS NOT.
                    3. CCCP1980
                      CCCP1980 April 17 2012 11: 55 New
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                      Azeri-Turk
                      skolko mojno vranya
                    4. Azeri-Turk
                      Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 12: 06 New
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                      Lies say hai offspring? Read and this is a lie traitors?
                      Armenians, especially with their latest atrocities, have proved to us what demonic and barbaric people they are.
                      From a speech by Lord Curzon, a member of the House of Lords of Great Britain, March 13, 1920
                      PART ONE. Facts and statistics reveal the truth of those years ...
                      For 6 centuries, Armenians lived under the auspices of the Ottoman Empire and "suffered oppression from the Turks", namely:
                      - with the permission of the same "bad" Turks, they had their own patriarchy, churches in Turkey, Syria, Greece, Lebanon, Palestine;
                      - The Armenian patriarch was considered a personal friend of the Ottoman sultan and was under his patronage at all times of the existence of the Ottoman Turkey;
                      - Armenians had their own schools, and later special lyceums throughout the Ottoman Empire, in which they openly taught children that “the Turks are your enemy” and no one subjected them to repression and persecution;
                      - Armenians organized various organizations in Turkey, openly and without fear supported the Dashnaktsutyun terrorist party, and again no one touched them;
                      - The Armenians of Turkey published their newspapers and books, which openly conducted propaganda against the Ottoman government ...
                      ... and much more - in general - "terrible oppression."
                      Let's move on to the Russian Empire and the West. What is true is the existence of a special “Armenian issue”, which was raised by the governments of European states at the end of the XNUMXth century (it was part of the “Eastern Question”).
                      The "Armenian Question" was essentially part of a plan to destroy Ottoman Turkey and divide its territories.
                      With the outbreak of World War I, Russia began to make plans to seize the Ottoman territories. In this, Russia saw help in the person of the Armenians. Seeing the shaken power of the Ottoman Empire, the Armenian Catholicos appealed to Nicholas II to "save" the Armenian people from the "oppression of the Turks." Nicholas promised him this - it was a good time to join the provinces of Eastern Turkey and even the whole of Anatolia with the hands of the Armenians.
                      Russian troops invaded the territory of the Ottoman caliphate and continued to go deep into Turkey. The local Armenian population, citizens of the Ottoman Empire, learning about the successes of the Russians, rebelled against their legitimate government.
                      The Ottoman government passed a decree on the resettlement of rebellious Armenians in Syria and Lebanon in 1915. About 100 thousand rebels were resettled. The number of people who died during the resettlement (climate change, the attacks of bandits and rebel Arabs and Kurds, the rejection of Armenians by the local population and clashes on the basis of this) is about a quarter of the total number of resettled - approx. 23 thousand people - including Ottoman soldiers and gendarmes accompanying Armenians on their way to Syria.
                      From this it becomes clear that more than half of those hundred thousand Armenians successfully reached Syria and Lebanon. To prove this, there are statistics: the increased number of the Armenian population in 1916-1919 in Syria and Lebanon.
                      During the resettlement of Armenians, the Ottoman government made sure that:
                      - all the property of the settlers was returned to its owners (Law of the Ottoman caliphate "On the return of the property of settlers");
                      - protect immigrants from attacks by bandits during resettlement (Law "Fundamentals of Muhajirat (Relocation)."
                      However, the Armenians claim that the Turks slaughtered about 2 million Armenians. This is a lie and proof of this is the statistics of those years.
                      According to European statistics:
                      1906, the Armenian population of Ottoman Turkey - 1 million 120 thousand 748 people.
                      1919, the Armenian population of Ottoman Turkey - 1 million 196 thousand 850 people.
                      If the Turks then slaughtered 2 million Armenians, then today there would not be a single Armenian on the planet!

                      The fact that the Armenian Genocide is a lie confirms another source:
                      Encyclopedia Britannica for 1918 (Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1918) indicates that the total number of Armenians killed in World War I is 600 thousand. Note: for the entire period of the war, and not for 1915!
                      It is also worth noting that over the period 1915-1917, over 300 thousand Armenians who carried out sabotage in favor of Russia as Turkish citizens are considered to be dead in official sources.
                      Is it right that they are considered DEAD?
                      And this is a big lie invented by the tsarist government!
                      More than 200 thousand Armenians were resettled by the Russian government in 1915 from Turkey to the Caucasus. An insignificant part of these Armenians (about 9%) was resettled by the Russians in the Muslim regions of the North Caucasus, especially in Dagestan and Ichkeria. The rest of the Armenians were settled in the Azerbaijani provinces: Elizavetpol and Irevan (Erivan): in Karabakh, Zangezur, Nakhichevan, Erivan, Gokce.
                      So, the Russian Empire at the end of 1915 illegally resettled more than 200 thousand Turkish Armenians in Transcaucasia. Thus, more than 200 thousand Armenians “appeared” to the whole world, which in the literal sense of the word - DISAPPEARED.
                      The disappearance of these Armenians was attributed as the fault of Ottoman Turkey and it turned out that the Turks cut more than 200 thousand Armenians and resettled another 100 thousand - about 350 thousand Armenians, as the then newspapers and agencies wrote.
                      Tsarist Russia was favored by this situation:
                      Firstly, it increased the Armenian population of Transcaucasia, creating a powerful stronghold on these lands;
                      Secondly, she presented Turkey in an unseemly light and became the "protector of the oppressed Christians";
                      Thirdly, Russia began to claim the lands of Eastern Turkey in order to “further protect the local Armenians who remained there”
                      We again turn to statistics, it objectively shows the ongoing processes:
                      Statistics of 1909 - the population of the Karabakh counties (Shushinsky, Javanshirsky and others) of the Elizabethpol province:
                      Armenians - 32%
                      Statistics of 1916 - the population of the Karabakh counties (Shushinsky, Javanshirsky and others) of the Elizabethpol province:
                      Armenians - 57%
                      Conclusion
                      The Armenian population of only a few counties in only 7 years (1909 - 1916) increased by 90%. Whereas in modern conditions, when medicine is developed and the population is better off, the population of the whole sovr. The Republic of Armenia for 7 years (2000 - 2007) increased by only 3% percent.
                      This means that this growth (in 1915-1916) was gained by the Armenian population due to resettlement from Turkey to the Transcaucasus.
                      This all proves the failure of the Armenian claims.
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                      Today, when all archives are opened at the request of leading scientists and the world community, only the Armenian archives are closed to researchers.
                      When Turkey invited Armenia to open archives related to 1914-1920, Armenia refused, because then all the crimes of the Armenians, hidden from the world by the thick walls of the Matenadaran, Etchmiedzin and Dashnaktsutyun, these main nests of Armenian terrorism, will be revealed.
                      Turkey, however, has opened its archives and today, thanks to this, we see that there was no systematic extermination of Armenians in Ottoman Turkey.
                2. Kamila
                  Kamila April 17 2012 11: 31 New
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                  you only know that certain media are leaking to you (((((((you do not want to see beyond the nose !! he will teach me stories (((
        3. Kamila
          Kamila April 17 2012 11: 28 New
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          you yourself are schizophrenic !!! speak normally !! have respect for people .. I know the story very well, as the historian herself !! and not only Azerbaijan !!! and just like that, without invoking facts, I never write ..
        4. nmd_1
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          Troyar, he. as well as ukry, history, it knows only from new textbooks that they need to clash on one forum in order to find out who used to get down from them.
          1. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 11: 55 New
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            HEAR MUDDDAAAKKK I showed your story where it is written about us and ancient documents. DAY RAPANA and look at both.
      2. CCCP1980
        CCCP1980 April 17 2012 11: 48 New
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        Azeri- Turk nado k tebe psixiatoru lechitsya wassat wassat wassat
  • Azeri-Turk
    Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 04: 17 New
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    Quote: Torus
    you do not poke me, doggy son

    ADMINISTRATOR or moderator who monitors the order of this site, PIDR and the real one. Since this post of TORUS his post does not delete, and my answer to this son of a whore immediately removes.
  • Dimani
    Dimani April 16 2012 11: 43 New
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    and you didn’t think that Azerbaijan needed to get rid of a couple of not profitable contracts with Gazprom and other companies. These are not profitable contracts. The West could pay more.


    uh no respected. There are no political preferences in business; only money is preferred in it. If the contracts are disadvantageous, then why conclude them? Or the one who concluded them a clinical ram and works at a loss to his country?
    Azerbaijan never had a special love for Russia and always gravitated towards the West, and at the first opportunity would begin to cooperate with it, and then once concluded "unprofitable" contracts. You just have no other choice. wink
    1. synchrophasatron
      synchrophasatron April 16 2012 11: 47 New
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      Quote: Dimani
      Or the one who concluded them a clinical ram and works at a loss to his country?


      Do you supply gas to Armenia at a market price? I’m not talking about weapons - only as a gift wink

      Quote: Dimani
      There are no political preferences in business; only money is preferred in it


      Business is politics first, then money.
      1. Dimani
        Dimani April 16 2012 12: 10 New
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        Do you supply gas to Armenia at a market price? I’m not talking about weapons - only as a gift


        the price may not be market, but certainly not at a loss. Gazprom will not work at a loss, Ukraine has taught. Another thing is interesting, why do not you refuse “unprofitable” contracts? Why do not "make friends" with Europe. Or are contracts still profitable? wink
        Business is money in the first place, and money makes politics. If not for money, no one would have been involved in politics.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 19 New
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          And how much gas do we sell to Russia and how much to Europe ??? Find out whether you will be unpleasantly surprised ??))
          1. Dimani
            Dimani April 16 2012 12: 32 New
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            And how much gas do we sell to Russia and how much to Europe ??? Find out whether you will be unpleasantly surprised ??))


            and how many? indicate ..... I wrote you have no other choice. if you do not want to sell to us, build a gas pipeline bypassing ..... count the money how much this event will pour out
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 47 New
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              Dima
              So you are still not in the subject and do not know what to write about !!
              Bypassing the pipeline has long been built !!)
              Before writing, at least be interested in the question, otherwise it is not solid!
              1. Azeri-Turk
                Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 13: 10 New
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                Countryman watch this video. Desirable one and give a sound.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHXJny2u0sw&feature=related

                You should watch this. The mood will rise. And you can sit here with a second wind)))))
          2. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 37 New
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            Quote: Yarbay
            And how much gas do we sell to Russia and how much to Europe ??? Find out whether you will be unpleasantly surprised ??))

            Bunlars I am the poison min Mindir Eini Shady. I have already noticed this.
        2. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
          SAMEDOV SULEYMAN April 16 2012 13: 52 New
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          Quote: Dimani
          the price may not be market, but certainly not at a loss

          Believe the old wolf, at a loss, even at a loss. As weapons, as perpetual loans (which are then written off) and energy. At a loss even at a loss - at the expense of you, ordinary people!
          1. Dimani
            Dimani April 16 2012 14: 28 New
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            Yes, he can’t work at a loss ..... who wants to ruin an enterprise that brings a big deal in cash?
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 44 New
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              Quote: Dimani
              who wants to ruin the enterprise

              the twin towers tell you nothing?
              you lose your pawns to take the queen later
              1. dodil
                dodil April 16 2012 22: 35 New
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                Quote: Dimani
                who wants to ruin the enterprise
                the twin towers tell you nothing?
                you lose your pawns to take the queen later

                Are you talking about this pawn?
                http://rubsev.ru/2012/03/oleg-rusin-xodzhaly-i-srebrenica-istoricheskaya-pravda-

                protiv-virtualnyx-genocidov /
                Part 3
                Of course, there is no complete resemblance between Vukovar, Khojaly and Srebrenica, and it cannot be. But they all represent a new, gambit style of warfare - to sacrifice a pawn (an unnecessary besieged city along with part of its defenders and residents) and get certain benefits: a positional advantage (recognition of “independence” or “territorial integrity”), creation of weak fields in the enemy camp (labeling rivals “fascists”, “killers”, “aggressors”), eliminating weaknesses in one’s own camp (seizing / strengthening one’s power in the country), matte attack on the king (NATO bombing) and laurel wreath of the winner (suppressing the facts of his own crimes that were before this provocation, and the reincarnation of killers into “innocent and unarmed victims”). The fact that the Khojaly phenomenon allows Azerbaijanis to “annul” all crimes against the Armenian population in the Azerbaijan SSR committed with the complicity of Mikhail Gorbachev and senior officials of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the KGB of the USSR, as well as the 120-day shelling of Stepanakert, one can not say, this is by itself of course. Another thing is much more interesting: the virtual genocide in Khojaly is now used by the Turks, in order to justify / delete from the history the real genocide of the Armenians. For example, on February 25, 2011, on the 19th anniversary of the “Khojaly massacre” in Adan, a conference was held entitled “False genocide of Armenians and real genocide in Khojaly”, at which “doctor” Emirullah Mehmetov said that the Armenians carried out a policy of ethnic cleansing against Azerbaijanis in 1905-1907, 1918-1920, 1948-1953, 1988-1994 and that “the events in Khojaly in the full sense of the word are genocide” [Adana'da, "Sozde Ermeni Soykirimi Iddialari Ve Gercek Soykirim Hocali" Konulu Konferans Yapildi / /haber.ankaraninsesi.com]. And the deputy chairman of the Republican People’s Party, Onur Oymen, speaking in November 2007 at the University of Gazi, said: “We have not forgotten the massacre in Khojaly. In order to hide it from the world community, Armenia and the world diaspora, which is its continuation, constantly puts on the agenda the events of 1915. But the human drama that has arisen as a result of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict is forgotten, forced to forget ”['Ermeni soykirimi' iddialarina 'Hocali katliami' ile yanit // hurriyet.com.tr].
                The most recent examples on this topic include the statement by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who responded to the adoption by the French Senate of a law criminalizing the Armenian Genocide by inviting France to “turn its attention not to false historical information, but to real events in history, among which is the Khojaly genocide. ” Answering journalists' questions, Erdogan said: “The deputies of Azerbaijan and Turkey will work to ensure that the Khojaly genocide is recognized worldwide. What happened in Khojaly is genocide, and those who committed this genocide, now fearing their own shadow, are trying to rise in the eyes of their own people by inventing the Armenian genocide ”[vesti.az, January 23, 2012]. If you listen to Erdogan, you might think that before the fall of Khojaly, no one in the world knew about the Armenian Genocide in the Turkish-Ottoman Empire. But then came 1992, the Armenians “genocide” the Azerbaijanis in Khojaly and in order to “rise in the eyes of their own people” retroactively “invented” the massacre and deportation of 1915. In reality, it was the other way around. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that Turkey organized the Khojaly provocation. The first information about the Khojaly events in the world media was thrown by the following people: correspondent of the Turkish newspaper Milliet Rahbar Bashiroglu, operator of the 5th channel of the French television Ahmet Sel, Reuters correspondent Elif Kaban, American journalist Thomas Goltz (articles in Washington post ”and“ Sunday Times ”) and his wife, Turkish Hijran Goltz (Turkish section of the BBC). Before his arrival in Azerbaijan at the end of 1991, Thomas Goltz himself worked for a long time in Turkey, converted to Islam and received the nickname “Tommy Turk”, which is also very symptomatic. Immediately after stuffing this information, rallies of "solidarity with Azerbaijan" took place in Ankara, Izmir, Igdir, Kars and other Turkish cities. At a rally in Istanbul on Sunday March 8, 1992, the leader of the Welfare Party, Necmettin Erbakan (the mentor of the current prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan), said that “Armenian militants have carried out a bloody massacre in Nagorno-Karabakh and therefore must be punished” ["Red Star" March 10, 1992]. In turn, the chairman of the Turkish Grand National Assembly, Husamettin Jindoruk, said that "Turkey will be forced to show the same sensitivity in relation to the aggression against fraternal Azerbaijan, which it demonstrated during the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait." (The true meaning of this phrase will become clear to the reader only after reading the chapter “Why Muslim Satanists Unleashed the Third World War”). The speaker of the Turkish parliament also called on the world community to condemn the "act of genocide of Armenians against the Azerbaijani brothers, which is particularly cruel." [ITAR-TASS, March 5, 1992] That's how it happens: the descendants of killers and executioners now blame the descendants of their victims!
    2. Azeri-Turk
      Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 58 New
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      Quote: Dimani
      There are no political preferences in business

      for some reason, the Azerbaijani tomatoes turned out to be :(
      Quote: Dimani
      If the contracts are disadvantageous, then why conclude them?

      Interest. Policy. Here we have the Baku Tbilisi Ceyhan pipeline. We can export oil from there, but no, and export through Russia, why? Do not want to write, read about the Gazprom blackmail and what Azerbaijan has done, you will understand everything.
      Quote: Dimani
      You just have no other choice.

      Just the same choice. We sent Gazprom with our gas and refused to sell oil to Russia. A day later, with the foam in his mouth, this Prime Minister forgot his name, a plump chtoli chtoli with Miller flew in to ask for a return. So, everything is ok) There is always a choice.

      A shot glass from the radar also flew. So that means there is a choice?)))))))))))) A glass is Matvienko or whatever it is.
      1. dodil
        dodil April 16 2012 12: 01 New
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        Lobster. The choice is always the one "To be or not to be ..."
        1. Azeri-Turk
          Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 20 New
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          Quote: dodil
          Lobster. The choice is always the one "To be or not to be ..."

          I agree.
          When you killed children in Khojaly and civilians in general, you made the choice NOT TO BE!

          Alas for you.

          You have achieved the death penalty for the Sumgait, but you have placed the Khojaly on the throne.

          So, you have already made a choice. Now the change is from us.
          1. CCCP1980
            CCCP1980 April 16 2012 13: 32 New
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            Azeri-Turk,
            VASHA VRANYO UJE NE KATIT. CHTO TO NOVOE MOJESH SKAZAT bully
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 13: 55 New
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              Quote: CCCP1980
              VASHA VRANYO

              ay pig, not yours and yours is not something but what-that. Learn Russian.
              What kind of times have gone, what kind of disrespect for their owners?
              1. CCCP1980
                CCCP1980 April 17 2012 11: 58 New
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                no vremena poshli. torgashi uchit budut am
                1. Azeri-Turk
                  Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 12: 10 New
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                  Quote: CCCP1980
                  no vremena poshli. torgashi uchit budut

                  Times have come really bad.
                  You are both slaves.
                  You are both an outpost
                  At the same time, you are walking around in Turkey spreading your legs to your enemies.

                  And it’s really bad to learn such people. I am not writing for you. And for the people.
      2. Dimani
        Dimani April 16 2012 12: 27 New
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        Interest. Policy. Here we have the Baku Tbilisi Ceyhan pipeline. We can export oil from there, but no, and export through Russia, why? Do not want to write, read about the Gazprom blackmail and what Azerbaijan has done, you will understand everything.


        Export or import?

        A shot glass from the radar also flew. So that means there is a choice?)))))))))))) A glass is Matvienko or whatever it is.


        so it’s temporary, Gabala is out of date, while it is being used. In the near future, the new radar will work in Armavir and will be abandoned from Gabala. Apparently, our leadership does not make a special bet on Gabala, since they offered Americans its joint use. wink
        1. Azeri-Turk
          Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 43 New
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          Quote: Dimani
          so it’s temporary, Gabala is out of date, while it is being used. In the near future, the new radar will work in Armavir and will be abandoned from Gabala. Apparently, our leadership does not make a special bet on Gabala, since they offered Americans its joint use.


          AGAIN 25.

          It doesn’t need this radar by itself. Frank pimped. If you build a modern, but about the same size, it will cost all (not an annual rent, but all and forever) $ 250 million. Our set a mocking $ 300, probably to add "to cut." That is, they don’t need this station, but we don’t really need money for it. We need them to be cleaned at all.

          And they want to stay - no matter what! What for? Then, so that they have "national military-political interests", which must be protected if they are in danger. Russia needs only a pretext for an invasion if a war starts.

          For two years, Russia has been trying to squeeze out of Azerbaijan an obligation not to use force in Karabakh. She also needed this not by herself, but as a pretext for the invasion. Did not work out....

          Another reason could arise if Russia could send its peacekeeping troops to the first 5 districts being cleared by the Madrid Plan. They also tormented for two years, but were sent there too.

          Now they have found fault with this Gabala. Bright and lively maneuvers were also written out, but (oddly enough) were sent there too.

          Now Russia has jumped that the same missile defense is being developed in Azerbaijan, which closes Israel.

          Matvienko handed it back .... Nothing has changed, but the station will be leased jointly by the USA and Russia, then the decision to attack or non-aggression of Russia against Azerbaijan, if Russia blows a piss in the head, will be decided together with America. That is, at the UN, and not as a result of Putin’s tantrum.

          Thus, all three possible reasons for the invasion fell away: 1) the obligation not to use force; 2) the deployment of Russian peacekeeping forces; 3) the extension of the existence of Russian military personnel in Gabala, he will be there, but together with the Americans and the reason for the invasion will not fail.

          Russia was left in the cold.
          1. dodil
            dodil April 16 2012 12: 46 New
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            And you, as always in the ladies))))))))))))))))))))))))
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 13: 14 New
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              Quote: dodil
              And you, as always in the ladies))))))))))))))))))))))))


              But does the situation in Armenia and Azerbaijan speak about this?
              1. dodil
                dodil April 16 2012 13: 25 New
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                The situation says that in the event of the outbreak of hostilities in Azerbaijan, refugees will increase many times over.
                The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline is dangerously close to the proposed LDP.
                And for dessert))):
                In one of the front-line military units of Azerbaijan, a strong wind blew the roof. The command of the military unit refused to repair the dilapidated barracks after the disaster, trying to justify the lack of money. The unit commander Elmir Guliev ordered Captain Gasimov, Lieutenant Asker Askerov and ensign Shahlar Rzayev, whose units and units spend the night in the open air, to repair the barracks at the expense of their salary or to collect money from soldiers. The officers had to pledge their bank cards, which are paid on a salary in a building materials store, and repair the roof, however, the brigade command refuses to pay for repairs and return officers' bank cards from the pledge.
                In desperation, the officers wrote to the Bizim Yol newspaper (Our Way), hoping to bring information about the incident to Commander-in-Chief Ilham Aliyev. “And without that to this day, we carried out all minor repairs at our own expense. This can no longer continue, because we have families. The situation in the army is such that we cannot instill patriotism in the soldiers, ”the officers write.
                They also said that the road leading to the military unit was completely destroyed because officials seized tens of thousands of hectares of land belonging to the military unit and planted wheat on the territory intended for military exercises and trainings. The military also said that there was no drinking water at all in the military unit. At the end of the open letter, officers demand from the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense to pay off the building materials store and return their bank cards.
                “It is noteworthy that after the publication of the news from the Ministry of Defense, military officials arrived at the military unit and, instead of investigating the incident, put pressure on the officers and accused them of cooperating with the Armenians. According to the parents of the officers, representatives of the Moscow Region threatened them. Commenting on the situation, the former brigade commander, Colonel Ildyrim Mammadov said that those who told the truth would be subjected to pressure further. In Baku, not a single plant produces materials for dugouts, canteens, and barracks of front-line military units. There is no particular attention to the third corps located on the front line. It seems that the Azerbaijani army refuses to think about the standard of living of soldiers. In the government there are no structures at all that should help in this. But the country is spending a lot of money on the army. But look, what a terrible situation the military is in, since they are solving their problems through the newspaper, ”Bizim Yol writes.
          2. Dimani
            Dimani April 16 2012 12: 57 New
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            Thus, all three possible reasons for the invasion fell away: 1) the obligation not to use force; 2) the deployment of Russian peacekeeping forces; 3) the extension of the existence of Russian military personnel in Gabala, he will be there, but together with the Americans and the reason for the invasion will not fail.


            but why did you decide that we were going to invade? all post-Soviet republics have some sort of persecution mania. Everyone expects that Russia will invade, and certainly in their country. What do you do there? ...))))))))
            Leaving the radar garrison in order to have a reason to invade? What for? For what?
            To start the war, you can find many other reasons. In my opinion, the radar garrison is a potential hostage, but with their withdrawal the threat will increase. The same thing with the missile defense system that will cover Israel. Neither Iran nor we will be able to leave this unattended, and in the event of a turmoil, Iran will not refuse the pleasure of sending you some fiery surprises.
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              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 13: 03 New
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              Quote: Dimani
              but why did you decide that we were going to invade?

              oooooooh amigo, then you do not know the policy))))))))))))
              and in relation to Georgia they said)))
              1. dodil
                dodil April 16 2012 13: 04 New
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                And what did Russia invade Georgia? )))
                Look, no matter how it happened, as with the Georgians.
                They also had "high-tech tools" in large numbers))))
                You better tell me - why did you lose in Artsakh?
                When is your presidential election?
                In xnumx?
                Before that, you can sit still.
                Of course, someone may start a mess with Iran, but it seems to me that the gut is thin.
                And you and the Americans and Israel.
                An example of gallant victories in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan is a clear confirmation of this.
                1. Azeri-Turk
                  Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 13: 23 New
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                  Quote: dodil
                  And what did Russia invade Georgia? )))

                  No invaded. They went to rest there on tanks and planes. Take a tan in Poti on the shores of the Black Sea. Kebabs to eat. And the moraders were not Russian soldiers. This was the locals.
                  Quote: dodil
                  Look, no matter how it happened, as with the Georgians.

                  Don’t worry about it, dear. It will not happen. Read about the radar that I wrote.
                  Quote: dodil
                  You better tell me - why did you lose in Artsakh?

                  ARTSAKH? There is no DAILY. I do not know such a word. Write correctly then and get the answer.
                  Quote: dodil
                  When is your presidential election?
                  In xnumx?
                  Before that, you can sit still.

                  Who knows who knows...................
                  Quote: dodil
                  Of course, someone may start a mess with Iran, but it seems to me that the gut is thin.

                  Small intestine? Americans are a country of hippos, everyone has a large intestine.
                  Quote: dodil
                  An example of gallant victories in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan is a clear confirmation of this.

                  Saddam was hanged, Gaddafi was shot, and a drug farm was made from Afghanistan.
                  AND WHAT FOR CONFIRMATION?

                  Iraqi oil is flowing, drugs are coming from Afghanistan, Libyan oil and caravans are also flowing, and all the billions that Gaddafi were supposed to have been thrown. Is this to confirm? Yes confirm.
              2. Dimani
                Dimani April 16 2012 13: 09 New
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                Attention! You do not have permission to view hidden text.


                and let’s remember who in 2008 the first topic was muddied. Pederastic Europe confirmed that Georgia was the first to launch shelling of the city. So grabbed
                1. Azeri-Turk
                  Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 13: 25 New
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                  Quote: Dimani
                  and let’s remember who in 2008 the first topic was muddied. Pederastic Europe confirmed that Georgia was the first to launch shelling of the city. So grabbed

                  iiiiiiiiiiiiii?
                  The territory was theirs. According to your words, it turns out that to whom urine knocked right away should independence be given? Russia needed a lever against Georgia and they got it. Don't you know that?
                  1. Dimani
                    Dimani April 16 2012 14: 17 New
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                    iiiiiiiiiiiiii?
                    The territory was theirs. According to your words, it turns out that to whom urine knocked right away should independence be given? Russia needed a lever against Georgia and they got it. Don't you know that?


                    de facto, this territory no longer belonged to Georgia, and they themselves were to blame for this, remember the words Gamsakhurdia, Georgia for Georgians, and they got this first war, minus Ossetia and Abkhazia. wink
                  2. Yarbay
                    Yarbay April 16 2012 14: 29 New
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                    A huge number of Russians are shouting Russia -for Russians!
                    Does this slogan make the territory of Russia less ??
                  3. Dimani
                    Dimani April 16 2012 16: 16 New
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                    Well, by the way, not a huge amount of it screams. Secondly, this applies only to visitors from the "fraternal" republics of the former USSR. Third, although such excesses take place, and this must be recognized, it does not translate into a mass shooting of sleeping women and children from heavy weapons, as was the case in Georgia.
                  4. Yarbay
                    Yarbay April 16 2012 16: 41 New
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                    What are you saying?))) And sleeping women and children before the New Year did not Russia bomb in Chechnya ??
                  5. Dimani
                    Dimani April 16 2012 16: 55 New
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                    yeah .... you still tell civilians who are still caught in the mountains and forests and finished off, who can only hide behind the backs of women and old people in Budennovsk and children in Beslan. It was the same for the New Year
                  6. Yarbay
                    Yarbay April 16 2012 17: 05 New
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                    Not i say !!
                    and 200 thousand peaceful women and children killed themselves in Chechnya ??
                    Fear God! How many civilians died in Ossetia ??
                  7. core April 16 2012 17: 49 New
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                    had a right! something you do not care about where the Russian population of the city of Grozny happened. For the most part, they were raped, robbed and killed. so we had a right. as ancient as life itself is a custom. BLOOD FOR BLOOD. Yes, we are not proud of this, but we are not going to sprinkle ashes on our heads. It turned out how it happened. about the Georgians, they ransacked us through their own fault, how many years they fed the forest brothers. not one Russian did not defend the Georgians, because everyone saw who the cute “miminos” had turned into, vomit that helps our enemy.
                  8. nmd_1
                    nmd_1 April 17 2012 11: 56 New
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                    You learn how it all began, how many Russians and how they killed in Chechnya, how many refugees there were. How many of your "fraternal-fucking" republics were driven out and killed, sit upright and don't blather about Chechnya.
                  9. Azeri-Turk
                    Azeri-Turk April 17 2012 12: 11 New
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                    Quote: nmd_1
                    You learn how it all began, how many Russians and how they killed in Chechnya, how many refugees there were. How many of your "fraternal-fucking" republics were driven out and killed, sit upright and don't blather about Chechnya.

                    All bad, only you fluffy. And the Moldavians are bad and Dad and Ukrainians and Uzbeks and Poles and Swedes and Japanese and Chechens and Georgians, are you only fluffy?

                    I read and read very carefully. But apparently you don’t read or do not remember well, or you read the wrong literature
              3. Vazgen one-eared
                Vazgen one-eared April 18 2012 00: 30 New
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                FUCK ARMENIAN. IM NOT KARABAKH.
      3. Azeri-Turk
        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 33 New
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        but how else can they return the land? how to make Russia not see leverage on Georgia in Abkhazia and South Ossetia?
        Russia will not go far with these levers. only enemies made
      4. Dimani
        Dimani April 16 2012 16: 21 New
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        And we don’t press on them, let them now settle directly with the Ossetians and Abkhazians, of course, if they want to listen to them .. What interesting enemies have we made? Georgia? the trouble is not great ...... especially since the main enemy there Saakashvilevskaya liberated, and by no means the Georgian people
      5. Azeri-Turk
        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 16: 35 New
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        Quote: Dimani
        Saakashvilevskaya liberated, but not the Georgian people

        if the war starts, then Russia as they wrote in the article will break the blockade into Armenia through the territory of Georgia. Believe me, this will be the point in relations between Georgia and Russia. And for centuries this shameful action against the Georgians will not be washed away. Believe me.
      6. Dimani
        Dimani April 16 2012 16: 57 New
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        Let there be no war, everything will remain frozen for many years.
  • Vazgen one-eared
    Vazgen one-eared April 18 2012 00: 06 New
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    I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

    General rules on the site
    General rules of conduct on the site:


    To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

    Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

    On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

    Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

    Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

    Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

    We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

    Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

    The site is strictly prohibited:

    a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

    Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

    b) inciting ethnic hatred.

    When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

    The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
    This is for amateurs.

    Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
    There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

    THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

    God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

    Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

    TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

    Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
  • SAVA555.IVANOV
    SAVA555.IVANOV April 16 2012 12: 20 New
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    Bati has more fraternal relations with Aliyev than with Putin or Medvedev.


    Keep in mind, dear Shura, I don’t intend to feed you for nothing. For every vitamin that I feed you, I will demand from you many small services. laughing
  • kNow
    kNow April 16 2012 11: 04 New
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    Quote: Torus
    Russia has too much Azerbaijani fifth column


    This is rather a pro-Russian convoy of Azerbaijan, but in Russia. Completely illiterate analysis.
  • kNow
    kNow April 16 2012 11: 17 New
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    Does Russia need to intervene in a possible conflict centered on Iran? Most likely, in my opinion, it is not worth it, if only we do not want to completely occupy Georgia. In this case, it is possible to divide the Caucasus with Iran - it is Azerbaijan, Georgia to us. Moreover, Azerbaijan is the former northern province of Iran, conquered from Russia by Russia.
    Turkey, of course, does not like this alignment and Iran will have to deal with them. But, on the other hand, if Turkey had not already taken an anti-Iranian and pro-NATO stance, Azerbaijan would never have decided on independent tricks.


    Illiterate.
    1. Vazgen one-eared
      Vazgen one-eared April 18 2012 00: 06 New
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      I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

      General rules on the site
      General rules of conduct on the site:


      To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

      Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

      On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

      Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

      Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

      Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

      We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

      Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

      The site is strictly prohibited:

      a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

      Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

      b) inciting ethnic hatred.

      When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

      The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
      This is for amateurs.

      Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
      There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

      THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

      God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

      Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

      TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

      Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
  • Kangarli April 16 2012 10: 30 New
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    Moreover, Azerbaijan is the former northern province of Iran, conquered from Russia by Russia.


    fool
  • Goga
    Goga April 16 2012 10: 36 New
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    Colleagues, I don’t see anything intimidating from conferences and some kind of cooperation programs with NATO, Russia is also quite closely involved in this, why shouldn’t our neighbors do the same?
    The purchase of weapons in Israel alone should not cause a particularly sharp reaction - but where did Russia buy drones? In the same Israel and what, also "against Iran"? Worse than the other, the media hysteria deliberately swells over the conflict in Karabakh, twenty years of sluggish "settlement" and suddenly not "yesterday", not "tomorrow", but today, at the time of the extreme aggravation of the situation around Iran, the "patriotic" feelings also intensified - "War to the victory ...".
    As they do not want to see, the “Transcaucasians”, who are too excited, do not plan that a possible war is planned by them at all and is not at all in their interests.
    1. Azeri-Turk
      Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 10: 41 New
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      Hello Goga. I enjoy reading your fair posts. It feels like a person is writing with intelligence and with high AI Kyu)))
      Plus to you :)
      1. FREGATENKAPITAN April 16 2012 11: 17 New
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        Anyone who allows himself to post stupid avatars with an insult to the flag of another state has the highest IQ /////////// it is unfortunate .... in the place of the moderators, I would just ban you .....
        1. Azeri-Turk
          Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 36 New
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          Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
          in place of the moderators, I would just ban you .....

          Did I break the rules? I read the rules and there is no such item. So I did not break the rules.
          Do you really think that the BAN will stop me? :)

          Do you know what the truth is? I openly show my dislike, and the Armenians secretly. Behind the back.

          My avatar, compared to what the Armenians did, is a drop in the ocean. If you are so honest, why not write about the IQ of those who killed people, children and women in Khojaly?

          Well, answer honest you are ours.
      2. dodil
        dodil April 16 2012 11: 20 New
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        Sorry about you so no one will write)))
      3. Kamila
        Kamila April 16 2012 11: 40 New
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        Omar, you are dear, a person with intelligence and a high coefficient of AI QI, I really like what you write))))))))))))) wink
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 16 2012 11: 45 New
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          Dear Camilla !! No matter how critical IQ Omar would be, although he certainly has a very high IQ, we like him at least because in the future he will be one of those who enter Khankendi with our flag!))
          1. Kamila
            Kamila April 16 2012 11: 50 New
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            Dear Yarbai, thank you very much. I am sure of that too !!!!! Inshallah !!!
            1. dodil
              dodil April 16 2012 12: 03 New
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              "The cuckoo praises the rooster for praising the cuckoo."
              1. Azeri-Turk
                Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 22 New
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                Quote: dodil
                "The cuckoo praises the rooster for praising the cuckoo."

                The fact that Azerbaijanis are friendly, give a hand to each other, respect each other, plus fraternal relations with their brotherly people like Turkey, here the cuckoo praises the cuckoo rather than the rooster.
                This proverb can be compared with you. You are roosters and Russia, well, let's say a lion.
                A rooster praises a lion because a lion praises a lion.

                So be honest.
            2. CCCP1980
              CCCP1980 April 17 2012 12: 01 New
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              Kamila,
              vi uje v oblakax
          2. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 01 New
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            Quote: Yarbay
            in the future he will be one of those who enter Khankendi with our flag!))


            May God hear your words. We crumple var. God grant.
          3. CCCP1980
            CCCP1980 April 16 2012 13: 37 New
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            VASHI MECHTI ZAGONYAT VAS V GROB laughing
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 13: 58 New
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              Quote: CCCP1980
              VASHI MECHTI ZAGONYAT VAS V GROB

              you are laughing like a wild horse. Here you are sitting here, writing, and at the time yours are bending there in Turkey. Aren't you ashamed?
              1. CCCP1980
                CCCP1980 April 17 2012 12: 12 New
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                ya bival iv stanbule iv .......... tam vsyo normalo (nashi) vedut dela v gorax. da i nekotorix gorodax. A PRO VAS SKAJU TURKI VAS NENAVIDAT ETO 100%
                VASHI TAM TOLKO DVORNIKI I OPSLUGI
                1. fuad-m7
                  fuad-m7 April 17 2012 15: 01 New
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                  Quote: CCCP1980

                  ya bival iv stanbule iv .......... tam vsyo normalo (nashi) vedut dela v gorax. da i nekotorix gorodax. A PRO VAS SKAJU TURKI VAS NENAVIDAT ETO 100%
                  VASHI TAM TOLKO DVORNIKI I OPSLUGI

                  Ara, I myself work in Turkey and it treats us well there so don’t believe all the words that your ears drive a donkey !!!!!
                  If I work in Antalya in the city of Velek and people like me live there a lot and your countrymen come there to rest, they constantly suck up to the Turks and Azerbaijanis !!!!!
                2. kNow
                  kNow April 19 2012 07: 45 New
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                  Quote: CCCP1980

                  ya bival iv stanbule iv


                  wah wah wah wink

                  what about genocide?
                  1. CCCP1980
                    CCCP1980 April 19 2012 21: 16 New
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                    svyazi naladit s kurdami NU KAK INSTRUKTR PO GORNOMU DELU bully
            2. Vazgen one-eared
              Vazgen one-eared April 17 2012 23: 55 New
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              I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

              General rules on the site
              General rules of conduct on the site:


              To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

              Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

              On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

              Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

              Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

              Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

              We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

              Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

              The site is strictly prohibited:

              a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

              Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

              b) inciting ethnic hatred.

              When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

              The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
              This is for amateurs.

              Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
              There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

              THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

              God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

              Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

              TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

              Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
        2. CCCP1980
          CCCP1980 April 16 2012 22: 11 New
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          Kamila give me a reason and in 15 days I’m in your baku bully
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            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 23: 06 New
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            Kamila give me a reason and in 15 days I’m in your baku

            I will give your mother a reason, and your sister, I WILL KNOW them with the Azerbaijani Kama Sutra, and if her father finds out, she will give an occasion to your entire female family from Turkey to Russia.
            If you love women so much, you are the descendants of Anais.
            1. SAVA555.IVANOV
              SAVA555.IVANOV April 17 2012 12: 56 New
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              And why are you responsible for the woman !! ??? Especially because of her back, you scare the father wassat !!! ??? A woman is wiser than you and perhaps will reconcile your countries.
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                Kamila April 17 2012 13: 20 New
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                Do you want to measure us? Armenians and us ???????

                Listen, he thought it necessary, answered correctly and did ... I do not intend to respond to dirty attacks, some morons! Not so brought up! And our woman is not used to answering this herself !! There are men to this ... And this is not the first time they write such a thing to me (((You would rather answer him, his dirty hints ... it would be more honest than protect someone who should not be!

                From behind me, no one is answering, believe me ... it will be necessary, he will tell him in person ... and not only say that, I know that ..
                1. dodil
                  dodil April 17 2012 13: 23 New
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                  Are you sitting next to me? wink
                  1. Anonymous
                    Anonymous April 17 2012 13: 38 New
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                    Where I am sitting, I wrote the address to you. And Camila is sitting,
                    at the address Baku, st. Istiglilyat, 19. If you are familiar with the administration of this site, ask for her IP and look at what address her IP is registered, and then continue the conversation.
                2. SAVA555.IVANOV
                  SAVA555.IVANOV April 17 2012 13: 56 New
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                  Beautiful Camila !!! This character is the only one who said dirty tricks on children on this site and it doesn’t matter whose children these children are. Then different people swear and different curses are heard, but what would be so raging !!! ??? Now you are trying to protect you with good intentions grief-defender !!!
                  Everyone knows one thing: “If a woman wants to be like that”. Become higher and if a person is of the same blood with you, this does not mean that you should, to put it mildly, insanity, although this is your right. With admiration of Sava!
                  1. Anonymous
                    Anonymous April 17 2012 14: 08 New
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                    I would like to look at your face if it were your children. Although God forbid. It is unlikely to understand until you find yourself in our situation





                    and after that you want me to feel sorry for their children?

                    DO YOU GIVE ME A WARRANTY that their children, when they grow up, will not kill our children?


                    Once we forgave their children. But as history has shown, they committed a crime even worse.
                    1. SAVA555.IVANOV
                      SAVA555.IVANOV April 17 2012 14: 43 New
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                      I agree there is no forgiveness. But revenge on children is not an option.
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                        Anonymous April 17 2012 14: 50 New
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                        Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV

                        I agree there is no forgiveness.


                        So now you understand that peace with them is not possible? Now you agree with this that there can be no peace and friendship with them.

                        and now let's talk about this

                        Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
                        But revenge on children is not an option.


                        1) Do you give a guarantee, or at least be sure that their children, like their ancestors, will not kill our children when they become adults? How did this and more than once their ancestors?
                        2) What do you see the way out? How to make Azerbaijan wolves full and at the same time Armenian rams and pigs safe?
                        3) How to make the perpetrators of these crimes punished?

                        What do you see in general terms?
                      2. Vazgen one-eared
                        Vazgen one-eared April 17 2012 23: 52 New
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                        I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

                        General rules on the site
                        General rules of conduct on the site:


                        To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

                        Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

                        On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

                        Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

                        Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

                        Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

                        We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

                        Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

                        The site is strictly prohibited:

                        a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

                        Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

                        b) inciting ethnic hatred.

                        When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

                        The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
                        This is for amateurs.

                        Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
                        There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

                        THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

                        God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

                        Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

                        TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

                        Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
                3. Anonymous
                  Anonymous April 17 2012 14: 29 New
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                  Are you so worried about Armenian children? Despite the fact that the Armenians fought on the side of the Nazis, and killed your own people. To prove? Show?

                  Who is responsible for the death of our children? And you are talking nonsense that the world is friendship. If your children would be killed, would you forgive the murderers of your children? Would not spit in the face of those who offer you friendship with the killers?

                  Did you put yourself in the place of our people? Does anyone give a guarantee that the Armenians will not repeat such atrocities? Do you give me such a guarantee?

                  I also love our children. It is possible that these children could become good mugam singers, they come from Khojaly and they all have angelic voices. Maybe they would become poets. Mothers fathers. Who will be responsible for this?

                  LOOK AT THESE CHILDREN. THIS IS OUR CHILDREN. WHICH NOW IN THE Coffin despite the fact that their killers walk and enjoy

                  so where is justice?

                  SEE THE POOR CHILD FROZEN AND SO DIED, BOUGHT THE CHILD



                  And over this child



                  AND THESE CHILDREN WITH SHAFT APPLIANCES AND THE WHOLE FAMILY HAVE NO FEMALE HEADS



                  Would you be able to live in peace with them after that? Be friends? Eat at the same table? Could? Answer yourself and not me. Let everyone answer himself and not me. Your conscience.
                  1. Lion
                    Lion April 17 2012 23: 49 New
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                    Quote: Anonymous

                    SEE THE POOR CHILD FROZEN AND SO DIED, BOUGHT THE CHILD



                    And over this child



                    AND THESE CHILDREN WITH SHAFT APPLIANCES AND THE WHOLE FAMILY HAVE NO FEMALE HEADS



                    this is still 1941 1954 probably was not !! what kind of animals are these Armenian soldiers do they have the right to call themselves warriors after that ???
                    1. dodil
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                      The Azerbaijani-Turkish version of the Khojaly genocide, circulated by the world media using the Baku petrodollars, states: “during the capture of this city in one night ... 613 civilians were killed with particular cruelty, including 63 children, 106 women, 70 old people.” However, Khojaly has never been a city. It was a village, which in 1990 was artificially turned into a city at the expense of Azerbaijani immigrants from distant areas and 465 Meskhetian Turks who fled from the Ferghana Valley. In addition, Khojaly was just stuffed with Grad and Alazan rocket and rocket launchers, armored vehicles and artillery, from which destructive shelling of Armenian settlements was carried out, including the NKR capital, Stepanakert. Two months before the assault, Azerbaijanis were invited by radio communication to withdraw civilians from the village. The Azerbaijani authorities partially fulfilled this proposal, having evacuated a number of Azerbaijani women, children, elderly, sick and livestock by helicopter, but then the decision to evacuate was sabotaged, soldiers and their families, adult men, and Meskhetian Turks remained in the city. According to entries in the diary of the Khojaly chief executive Elman Mammadov as of February 22, 1992, the population of Khojaly was 1.000 people [What are the diary entries of Elman Mammadov // karabah88.ru]. However, it is not clear whether Mammadov was included among the “1.000 people” of the Meskhetian Turks or not. What fate was destined for refugees from the Ferghana Valley, it becomes clear during the reconstruction of the “Khojaly events”:
                      1st event: On the night of February 25-26, 1992, Armenian units, attacking from three directions (Mehdishen, Novy Nyuragyukh and Kyatuk) and leaving the northeast corridor open for civilians to exit, took Khojaly. Soldiers with part of the peaceful Khojaly people retreated along the humanitarian corridor. The remaining 700 people in the village (including 300 Meskhetian Turks), for various reasons, could not leave Khojaly, were transported to Stepanakert and on February 28, without any preconditions, transferred to the Azerbaijani side. In addition, on the day of the operation, 47 Armenian hostages were in Khojaly, of which only 13 were found after the assault, including 1 child and 6 women. The remaining 34 hostages and 165 Meskhetian Turks were taken away by Azerbaijanis retreating along the humanitarian corridor. Also, after the capture of Khojaly, Armenian troops found eleven corpses of civilians there (naturally, without taking into account the dead members of armed groups dressed in military uniforms). Judging by the characteristic wounds, they died during the shelling preceding the offensive.
                      2nd event: The topographic map shows that there is only one road from Khojaly to Askeran, resembling a kind of tunnel and which is covered by 600-800-meter mountains on both sides. Trying to cross such mountains in winter and at night is tantamount to suicide, so the Khojaly residents traveled to Askeran along the humanitarian corridor. But it was near Askeran that it became clear that the fanatic-pan-Turkists did not strive for the liberation of the Khojaly, but for more blood on the way to the overthrow of Ayaz Mutalibov. The people of Abulfaz Elchibey, located in Agdam, told the refugees via a walkie-talkie that the Armenian village of Nakhichevanik was “recaptured from the militants” and ordered the refugees to go southeast. A small part of the Khojaly residents refused to obey this order, bypassed Askeran on the right and, walking along the humanitarian corridor (along the road along the Karkarchay river bed), safely reached Agdam. NFA soldiers drove the remaining refugees to Armenian positions between Shelley and Nakhichevanik.
                      3rd event: Armenian militias confirm that a group of departing Khojaly residents unexpectedly turned towards Nakhichevanik and took the villagers defending the village by surprise. As a result of this attack, two were killed and 10 village defenders were injured. After the Azerbaijanis destroyed one of the Karabakh posts, the other posts opened machine-gun fire to defeat, not deciphering in the predawn dusk, who is who in the crowd approaching them, where the fire was also fired from. Units under the command of Shirin Mirzoyev and Yagub Rzayev [Who is responsible for Khojaly? // karabah88.ru] advanced to “help” Khojaly residents from Agdam. As a result of crossfire, part of the Khojaly people also died, and the Armenians managed to knock out two tanks, one of which was the son of Yagub Rzayev, Janpolad, who was posthumously awarded the title of “National Hero of Azerbaijan”. Subsequently, the Armenian side acknowledged that as a result of this confusion, a mixed civilian convoy was destroyed: “... the soldiers of the Azerbaijani national army decided to break through with the fighting, taking some of the inhabitants with them. According to the NKR law enforcement agencies, the death toll on the way from Khojaly to Agdam is 200 people, including about 40 soldiers of the Azerbaijani army. 100 NKR authorities are ready to exchange 5 captured Azerbaijani soldiers for Armenian hostages ”[Nezavisimaya Gazeta, March 1992, 1949]. This event cannot be recognized as a “war crime”. Firstly, part of the Khojaly residents died from “friendly fire”. Secondly, at the posts near the village of Nakhichevanik there were people who daily lost their relatives and friends during the shelling of Stepanakert and surrounding villages. Therefore, their actions can be regarded as blood feud. Thirdly, the Azerbaijani soldiers covered themselves with a “human shield”, which the Armenians were forced to destroy, realizing their right to self-defense. But the tactics of the “human shield” are prohibited by the Geneva Convention of XNUMX, and therefore the Azerbaijani side bears responsibility for the deaths of civilians near Nakhichevanik. Another fact is noteworthy: those people (Shirin Mirzoyev, Allahverdi Bagirov and Yagub Rzayev) who “rushed to the aid” of the Khojaly residents from Agdam subsequently died under mysterious circumstances.
                      4th event: What happened to that group of refugees who managed to break through Shelley to Agdam? According to Czech journalist Dana Mazalova, who saw a genuine video of Chingiz Mustafayev on February 28, 1992, Azerbaijanis shot their Meskhetian Turks here and threw them to die. Then, various bodies were manipulated with the bodies of the Meskhetian Turks and the bodies of machine-gun victims between Nakhichevanik and Shelley to represent them as victims of “Armenian fascism”: barbed wire binding, point blank shots, knife wounds, crushing skulls with ax blows, scalping, gouging eyes cutting off fingers and ears, etc. Part of the corpses were taken to Agdam by truck and helicopters. Perhaps it was then that 34 Armenian hostages (women and children), taken away from Khojaly, were killed. As George Deev wrote about this, “it is obvious that those who wanted to create the appearance of desecration of corpses by Armenians disfigured, first of all, precisely the bodies of the Armenian hostages so that they could not be identified. For this purpose, the outer clothing was removed from many corpses, and it was for this reason that the bodies of the unfortunate victims were abused, which changed them beyond recognition. ” On March 2, 1992, fifty mutilated bodies, including thirty corpses of women and children, were shown to Western journalists. This video became the reason for Ayaz Mutalibov’s resignation and changed the information coverage of the Karabakh conflict in favor of Azerbaijan. Cameraman Chingiz Mustafayev, amazed by the changes in the state of the corpses, began his own investigation and managed to send only two materials to the DR-Press news agency in Moscow, informing him of the grounds for suspecting the Azerbaijani side of the crime, but was killed in June 1992 under suspicious circumstances. What really happened near Agdam is impossible to say, since the territory on which the disfigured bodies were shown to reporters was under the complete control of the Azerbaijani troops. But one thing is for sure: now Azeragitprop summarizes all the military and civilians who died at different times and in different places (the assault on Khojaly, who died from frostbite and hypothermia during the transition, the battles between Nakhichevanik and Shelley, the Agdam events) and gets a very spectacular “ equals ”:“ Armenian fascists in one night wiped out the city of Khojaly from the face of the Earth and killed 613 unarmed Azerbaijanis ”. This “Khojaly arithmetic” also somewhat resembles Srebrenica. In the cemetery in Potochari, where, according to the official version, the victims of the “genocide July 11-22, 1995” are buried, they are actually buried:
                      1) Muslims killed in Zvornik and Bratunac in 1992,
                      2) Muslim Mujahideen who died in the battles of 1992-1995,
                      3) the Serbs killed by Mujahideen Nasser Orich in 1992-1993,
                      4) victims of a shootout between supporters of the defense and supporters of the retreat from the city on July 11, 1995,
                      5) soldiers of the 28th division who died during the breakthrough,
                      6) it is not known who shot in Branievo and even
                      7) Muslim soldiers secretly exhumed in various parts of BiH, transported and reburied in eastern Bosnia, publicly exhumed as “victims of genocide” and again reburied at the cemetery in Potochari as “victims of genocide”!
                      Truly, Muslims just love to dance on the bones of their dead ...
                    2. Vazgen one-eared
                      Vazgen one-eared April 18 2012 00: 35 New
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                      What kind of war are they? They can only send their women to Turkey. And hide behind the backs of Russians.

                      You don’t see everywhere they are calling out about their military spirit, but at the same time they say ..

                      CSTO will save us Russia will save. Tfu.
            2. Anonymous
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              Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
              Why are you responsible for the woman !! ??

              Because our women are not Armenian. They do not talk with the Armenians. Not like the Armenians with the Turks. Do you understand? This is the Caucasian mentality. This proves once again that they are strangers on our lands. All Caucasians are almost identical in their views on honor, except for Armenians.

              Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
              Especially because of her back, you scare your father

              I have no habit of scaring. Believe me.

              Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
              Woman is wiser

              Of course wiser. We respect our women. We honor and care. And basically keep your women with you, rather than send to Armenia to earn money.

              Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
              and perhaps reconcile your countries.

              Are we with the Armenians? More and die? When the cancer on the mountain whistles.

              You see the difference between our peoples is that our women are masculine. Everything in the face. No mercy. And the Armenians let their women go ahead.

              So you're not at the right place.

              And you seem to be from Ukraine. GUAM. Must be on our side. We help you financially, so what did you go to the side of the Armenians?
              1. SAVA555.IVANOV
                SAVA555.IVANOV April 17 2012 15: 10 New
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                The answers to my questions quite suit me, this is a personal opinion.
                You do not help me financially, but to our leaders, for this they handed over all markets to your fellow countrymen, taking away the chance for farmers to sell something from farmers and that’s why they stand under the market and sell their few kilograms from the ground. I’m a block, you are one of the corrupt-harmful schemes on the expanses of the former USSR, by cooperating with the "cops" - your "roof" you spit on the common people, thereby damaging the entire Azerbaijani people. You and Belorussia will destroy this scheme by bribing interested leaders. You are reaching for the Turks, no one bothers you, but caution regrets, we ordinary people are drawn to Russians and you help our leaders in the confrontation with Russia. And do not tell us to "drink or not drink" You are at home and this should not concern you if you are the right man, you will not be ashamed for your brother’s wife , so why did you take your women as a “fashion” to come up to and then just run to the police (fortunately, it was bought by you). We came to you and took away the whole industry ????? Wherever I write “YOU”, you mean the Armenians too, like you perched on our neck together.
                1. Anonymous
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                  Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
                  Everywhere I write "YOU", mean Armenians too

                  write to the Armenians separately and do not put them in the same boat with us. And so there is little oxygen.

                  Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
                  so why did you take yourself as a “fashion” to our women

                  No offense. Have you heard the saying about b-h and cable? Why doesn’t this happen on ours? Plus, you know how many of our people live abroad and your women go to everything to leave Russia and even the same Ukraine. I can put photos of you for whom they are married, they’d be married to leave your countries. So who is to blame?

                  Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
                  for this, they handed over to all your markets to your fellow countrymen, having taken away farmers pensioners and summer residents a chance to sell something, and so they stand under the market and sell their few kilograms

                  So your right comes out to you and enemies. so what's the problem? look for problems in your home and not in us.

                  Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
                  You reach for the Turks

                  We do not stretch we are one. We are one nation.

                  Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
                  You and Belarus will destroy this scheme-bribery of interested leaders.

                  Stop. If the elder brother, puts the underside of the younger. And the youngest sends his man to save him from his older brother ........ what is our fault ???????

                  If the elder brother is blackmailing the younger one with gas ... now Ukraine, and the younger brother, SAME sends people to participate in the project against the OLDER Brother ............ what are we to blame ???? ???????

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                  and you help our leaders in the confrontation with Russia.

                  Comrade I talked with the Ukrainians, who vehemently hate Russians. And there are more than one person and far from a thousand smells like millions.

                  I think you first need to understand your own government, which you yourself choose.

                  Is it convenient to look for guilt in all but ourselves?
            3. Kamila
              Kamila April 17 2012 13: 55 New
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              Kamila give me a reason and in 15 days I’m in your tank ....... ((((((

              He has 6 pluses ... that's it, conclusions must be drawn ... but one plus is not from you by accident ???
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay April 17 2012 14: 00 New
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                Dear Camilla, I understand your indignation !!
                But these poor poor fellows are so brought up!
                leave their rudeness unattended!
                All that they write offensive to your address, they have and will have from their mothers and loved ones!
                Yours!
                1. Kamila
                  Kamila April 17 2012 14: 18 New
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                  Dear Yarbai! Many thanks. I would like the majority on this site to think the same way ... but, unfortunately, judging by the minuses, this is not so.
                  Sincerely.
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay April 17 2012 14: 35 New
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                    Camilla!
                    Let's hope that someday this will change!
                    For all the will of the Almighty!
                    I am a very quick-tempered person, but I understand very well that I won’t be able to tear the Adam's apple through a monitor without a virtual * hero *!
                2. Vazgen one-eared
                  Vazgen one-eared April 18 2012 00: 06 New
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                  I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

                  General rules on the site
                  General rules of conduct on the site:


                  To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

                  Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

                  On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

                  Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

                  Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

                  Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

                  We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

                  Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

                  The site is strictly prohibited:

                  a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

                  Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

                  b) inciting ethnic hatred.

                  When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

                  The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
                  This is for amateurs.

                  Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
                  There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

                  THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

                  God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

                  Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

                  TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

                  Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
              2. SAVA555.IVANOV
                SAVA555.IVANOV April 17 2012 14: 40 New
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                Romeo and Juliet were also from warring families.
                If I had such a mood))) I myself would have asked your father "Dear (I do not know the name and patronymic) please! Allow me to invite your daughter to the cinema!? In addition, on the street, spring all life reaches for the sun! !! And it's time for a walk in the spring park !!!
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                  I’m here about children and their deaths, and you tell me a Shakespearean fairy tale. Not good. Fear God or at least keep silent for the sake of solidarity.
                  1. dodil
                    dodil April 17 2012 15: 05 New
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                    Lobster. You are sick. You have manic psychosis. Please do not post here photos of dead people.
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                      Anonymous April 17 2012 15: 27 New
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                      David, why is our truth, does it prick your eyes? Where did your fair position go? Well, I'm waiting for you to scold your own, and I’ll say there is no bad nation, there are bad people.

                      If you write to me now, those Armenians who did this to * p * o * d * s, my position will change. I'll tell you, well done. And from this day I will write about those Armenians who participated in this massacre and not about everyone.

                      But if you keep silent or change the subject, I understand that you are in solidarity with them.

                      I'm waiting for an answer from you
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                      dodil April 17 2012 15: 53 New
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                      Photos of dead people prick me.

                      Killing is ugly in nature. Is not it so?
                    3. Anonymous
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                      I'm not talking about ugly killings but about freaks who do it.
                    4. dodil
                      dodil April 17 2012 16: 22 New
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                      Who was killing on your part? With Armenian, Chechen, Russian, American, Vietnamese, Libyan, Syrian, Serbian, Croatian?
                      War turns everything upside down.
                      Here you are - for example.
                      Could be a good cook - but became a bad counterintelligence.
                    5. Kamila
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                      The killers of civilians, moreover, by fraudulent means, shooting them when they ran along the corridor ... - this! nonhumans! ki! and whoever they were ... whatever nationality ... here and tell me bluntly who committed Khojaly - what should they be called? ... they ask you this ...
                      No matter how the war turns over, the war has its own laws .. understand? you can’t shoot civilians, cruelly mock corpses .. even the Nazis did not allow themselves to do this .... I mean the troops of the Wehrmacht .. but not the SS and the Gestapo .. ((((
                    6. dodil
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                      The Azerbaijani-Turkish version of the Khojaly genocide, circulated by the world media using the Baku petrodollars, states: “during the capture of this city in one night ... 613 civilians were killed with particular cruelty, including 63 children, 106 women, 70 old people.” However, Khojaly has never been a city. It was a village, which in 1990 was artificially turned into a city at the expense of Azerbaijani immigrants from distant areas and 465 Meskhetian Turks who fled from the Ferghana Valley. In addition, Khojaly was just stuffed with Grad and Alazan rocket and rocket launchers, armored vehicles and artillery, from which destructive shelling of Armenian settlements was carried out, including the NKR capital, Stepanakert. Two months before the assault, Azerbaijanis were invited by radio communication to withdraw civilians from the village. The Azerbaijani authorities partially fulfilled this proposal, having evacuated a number of Azerbaijani women, children, elderly, sick and livestock by helicopter, but then the decision to evacuate was sabotaged, soldiers and their families, adult men, and Meskhetian Turks remained in the city. According to entries in the diary of the Khojaly chief executive Elman Mammadov as of February 22, 1992, the population of Khojaly was 1.000 people [What are the diary entries of Elman Mammadov // karabah88.ru]. However, it is not clear whether Mammadov was included among the “1.000 people” of the Meskhetian Turks or not. What fate was destined for refugees from the Ferghana Valley, it becomes clear during the reconstruction of the “Khojaly events”:
                      1st event: On the night of February 25-26, 1992, Armenian units, attacking from three directions (Mehdishen, Novy Nyuragyukh and Kyatuk) and leaving the northeast corridor open for civilians to exit, took Khojaly. Soldiers with part of the peaceful Khojaly people retreated along the humanitarian corridor. The remaining 700 people in the village (including 300 Meskhetian Turks), for various reasons, could not leave Khojaly, were transported to Stepanakert and on February 28, without any preconditions, transferred to the Azerbaijani side. In addition, on the day of the operation, 47 Armenian hostages were in Khojaly, of which only 13 were found after the assault, including 1 child and 6 women. The remaining 34 hostages and 165 Meskhetian Turks were taken away by Azerbaijanis retreating along the humanitarian corridor. Also, after the capture of Khojaly, Armenian troops found eleven corpses of civilians there (naturally, without taking into account the dead members of armed groups dressed in military uniforms). Judging by the characteristic wounds, they died during the shelling preceding the offensive.
                      2nd event: The topographic map shows that there is only one road from Khojaly to Askeran, resembling a kind of tunnel and which is covered by 600-800-meter mountains on both sides. Trying to cross such mountains in winter and at night is tantamount to suicide, so the Khojaly residents traveled to Askeran along the humanitarian corridor. But it was near Askeran that it became clear that the fanatic-pan-Turkists did not strive for the liberation of the Khojaly, but for more blood on the way to the overthrow of Ayaz Mutalibov. The people of Abulfaz Elchibey, located in Agdam, told the refugees via a walkie-talkie that the Armenian village of Nakhichevanik was “recaptured from the militants” and ordered the refugees to go southeast. A small part of the Khojaly residents refused to obey this order, bypassed Askeran on the right and, walking along the humanitarian corridor (along the road along the Karkarchay river bed), safely reached Agdam. NFA soldiers drove the remaining refugees to Armenian positions between Shelley and Nakhichevanik.
                      3rd event: Armenian militias confirm that a group of departing Khojaly residents unexpectedly turned towards Nakhichevanik and took the villagers defending the village by surprise. As a result of this attack, two were killed and 10 village defenders were injured. After the Azerbaijanis destroyed one of the Karabakh posts, the other posts opened machine-gun fire to defeat, not deciphering in the predawn dusk, who is who in the crowd approaching them, where the fire was also fired from. Units under the command of Shirin Mirzoyev and Yagub Rzayev [Who is responsible for Khojaly? // karabah88.ru] advanced to “help” Khojaly residents from Agdam. As a result of crossfire, part of the Khojaly people also died, and the Armenians managed to knock out two tanks, one of which was the son of Yagub Rzayev, Janpolad, who was posthumously awarded the title of “National Hero of Azerbaijan”. Subsequently, the Armenian side acknowledged that as a result of this confusion, a mixed civilian convoy was destroyed: “... the soldiers of the Azerbaijani national army decided to break through with the fighting, taking some of the inhabitants with them. According to the NKR law enforcement agencies, the death toll on the way from Khojaly to Agdam is 200 people, including about 40 soldiers of the Azerbaijani army. 100 NKR authorities are ready to exchange 5 captured Azerbaijani soldiers for Armenian hostages ”[Nezavisimaya Gazeta, March 1992, 1949]. This event cannot be recognized as a “war crime”. Firstly, part of the Khojaly residents died from “friendly fire”. Secondly, at the posts near the village of Nakhichevanik there were people who daily lost their relatives and friends during the shelling of Stepanakert and surrounding villages. Therefore, their actions can be regarded as blood feud. Thirdly, the Azerbaijani soldiers covered themselves with a “human shield”, which the Armenians were forced to destroy, realizing their right to self-defense. But the tactics of the “human shield” are prohibited by the Geneva Convention of XNUMX, and therefore the Azerbaijani side bears responsibility for the deaths of civilians near Nakhichevanik. Another fact is noteworthy: those people (Shirin Mirzoyev, Allahverdi Bagirov and Yagub Rzayev) who “rushed to the aid” of the Khojaly residents from Agdam subsequently died under mysterious circumstances.
                      4th event: What happened to that group of refugees who managed to break through Shelley to Agdam? According to Czech journalist Dana Mazalova, who saw a genuine video of Chingiz Mustafayev on February 28, 1992, Azerbaijanis shot their Meskhetian Turks here and threw them to die. Then, various bodies were manipulated with the bodies of the Meskhetian Turks and the bodies of machine-gun victims between Nakhichevanik and Shelley to represent them as victims of “Armenian fascism”: barbed wire binding, point blank shots, knife wounds, crushing skulls with ax blows, scalping, gouging eyes cutting off fingers and ears, etc. Part of the corpses were taken to Agdam by truck and helicopters. Perhaps it was then that 34 Armenian hostages (women and children), taken away from Khojaly, were killed. As George Deev wrote about this, “it is obvious that those who wanted to create the appearance of desecration of corpses by Armenians disfigured, first of all, precisely the bodies of the Armenian hostages so that they could not be identified. For this purpose, the outer clothing was removed from many corpses, and it was for this reason that the bodies of the unfortunate victims were abused, which changed them beyond recognition. ” On March 2, 1992, fifty mutilated bodies, including thirty corpses of women and children, were shown to Western journalists. This video became the reason for Ayaz Mutalibov’s resignation and changed the information coverage of the Karabakh conflict in favor of Azerbaijan. Cameraman Chingiz Mustafayev, amazed by the changes in the state of the corpses, began his own investigation and managed to send only two materials to the DR-Press news agency in Moscow, informing him of the grounds for suspecting the Azerbaijani side of the crime, but was killed in June 1992 under suspicious circumstances. What really happened near Agdam is impossible to say, since the territory on which the disfigured bodies were shown to reporters was under the complete control of the Azerbaijani troops. But one thing is for sure: now Azeragitprop summarizes all the military and civilians who died at different times and in different places (the assault on Khojaly, who died from frostbite and hypothermia during the transition, the battles between Nakhichevanik and Shelley, the Agdam events) and gets a very spectacular “ equals ”:“ Armenian fascists in one night wiped out the city of Khojaly from the face of the Earth and killed 613 unarmed Azerbaijanis ”. This “Khojaly arithmetic” also somewhat resembles Srebrenica. In the cemetery in Potochari, where, according to the official version, the victims of the “genocide July 11-22, 1995” are buried, they are actually buried:
                      1) Muslims killed in Zvornik and Bratunac in 1992,
                      2) Muslim Mujahideen who died in the battles of 1992-1995,
                      3) the Serbs killed by Mujahideen Nasser Orich in 1992-1993,
                      4) victims of a shootout between supporters of the defense and supporters of the retreat from the city on July 11, 1995,
                      5) soldiers of the 28th division who died during the breakthrough,
                      6) it is not known who shot in Branievo and even
                      7) Muslim soldiers secretly exhumed in various parts of BiH, transported and reburied in eastern Bosnia, publicly exhumed as “victims of genocide” and again reburied at the cemetery in Potochari as “victims of genocide”!
                      Truly, Muslims just love to dance on the bones of their dead ...
                    7. Kamila
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                      one more Armenian source???....
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                      http://rubsev.ru/2012/03/oleg-rusin-xodzhaly-i-srebrenica-istoricheskaya-pravda-
                      protiv-virtualnyx-genocidov / - source
            4. Vazgen one-eared
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              FUCK ARMENIAN. IM NOT KARABAKH.
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay April 17 2012 14: 54 New
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    Well, go for a walk with the * warring * family for you !!
  • Goga
    Goga April 16 2012 11: 46 New
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    Fzeri-Turk - Good afternoon Colleague, thank you for your kind words ("+"). I just think that in order not to want war, in any form, special intelligence is not required. In 1992, I happened to get into the so-called "regional conflict" (not in the Caucasus), when the citizens of one of the former Soviet republics slaughtered each other, regardless of nationality. And I really do not want anyone in our former country to still see something like that.
    This is where my position comes from.
    I disagree with you in many ways, but it’s all the more interesting to argue with a person (without losing mutual respect). If everyone on the site thought the same way, then there would be nothing to say and write.
    1. Azeri-Turk
      Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 03 New
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      Quote: Gogh
      I disagree with you in many ways, but the more interesting it is to argue with a person

      First of all, thank you for your words and posts and for really fair views. But please tell me what you do not agree on. I would like to consider these issues.

      If it’s not difficult for you, of course.
      1. Goga
        Goga April 16 2012 12: 16 New
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        Azeri-Turk - Colleague, I most strongly disagree with the fact that now the urgent issue of N. Karabakh can be resolved by military means.
        The economic superiority of Azerbaijan, and the superiority in quantity and quality of weapons does not mean the possibility of a "small, victorious" war. The war will not be a small one right now, it smells so small that all neighbors will not find it. What you consider to be an internal affair between Armenia and Azerbaijan may be true from the very beginning, but with the outbreak of hostilities, all this from the submission of our Western "partners" will quickly develop into a full-fledged, first regional conflict, with a very likely prospect of growing into a global war . This is not a fantasy, but the most likely scenario.
        I don’t think you want to be in the role of a match in the wrong hands.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 37 New
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          Goga again twenty five ???
          Why a match in the wrong hands ??
          and in whose hands the match was the USSR in 41 ohms ??
          at 95 in Chechnya 2000 ??
          In Georgia ??
          And so you really describe Zhirinovsky’s fantasies !!
          1. Goga
            Goga April 16 2012 12: 55 New
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            Yarbay - Poland turned out to be a match in that War, and then few could imagine what it would result in.
            Zhirinovsky is a professional provocateur, but on the contrary, I propose not to be provoked, that's all.
            In addition, I answered Azeri-Turk to the question of what our differences were and, answering, I was forced to repeat my position, and you - "... again twenty-five ???". I do not impose my point of view, but I have it, just like you do. Another thing is that they are different - so for that, communication on the site ...

            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay April 16 2012 13: 11 New
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              The question is not what you have or do not have an opinion ??
              The question is how much your opinion is reasonable and rational !!
        2. Azeri-Turk
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          Quote: Gogh
          Azeri-Turk - Colleague, I most strongly disagree with the fact that now the urgent issue of N. Karabakh can be resolved by military means.

          At the moment, Azerbaijan is strangling Armenia economically. The fruits, by the way, are not even bad. The military conflict will be applied only after Azerbaijan receives the green light from the Kremlin.

          And so of course no one wants a war, guys feel sorry. Just the question, how much longer to wait? We have been talking for 20 years, there is no result. What to do? Resigned?


          Quote: Gogh
          The economic superiority of Azerbaijan, and the superiority in quantity and quality of weapons does not mean the possibility of a "small, victorious" war. The war will not be a small one right now, it smells so small that all neighbors will not find it.


          You are absolutely right. Just do not forget your colleague that Azerbaijan has every opportunity to wage a long war, and I think that if a war starts between the Karabakh terrorists and Azerbaijan, then this will be the foundation for the 3rd World War. Turkey will not stand aside and the President and Prime Minister of Turkey openly stated that if Russia intervenes, then Turkey will not stand aside. And where is Russia, there is NATO.

          Quote: Gogh
          This is not a fantasy, but the most likely scenario.

          I totally agree with you.

          Quote: Gogh
          I don’t think you want to be in the role of a match in the wrong hands.

          Of course. Only you do not consider one factor. Ilham Aliyev will not be seated if he does not start a war, or at least does not try to budge this problem. It is 100%

          There are 4 resolutions from the UN
          Resolutions from the European Parliament.
          57 OIC countries put Armenians in occupation.
          Even Russia confirms the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, although they are worthless to those from KREML, they recognized Abkhazia. In short, the Armenians themselves do not even recognize Karabakh.

          And what to do? to wait? put up with the loss? They talked for 20 years, the result is zero.
          1. dodil
            dodil April 16 2012 12: 55 New
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            Did not communicate correctly.
            And keep stepping on the same rake.
            As for the green light from the Kremlin - here you are right))))))
            But will you get it?
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 13: 07 New
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              Quote: dodil
              As for the green light from the Kremlin - here you are right))))))
              But will you get it?


              Of course we will. Who would say 10 years ago that Russia would sell weapons to Azerbaijan, so that later they would go to the Armenians with the same weapons?

              Sold you?

              Azerbaijanis are good traders, as you call us, we will buy you and also for a cheap price, the wholesale price will be. It is guaranteed.

              It’s just politics. The Kremlin is trying to raise prices for highs, and we are lowering it. Hence the conclusion.

              Russia here refuses our tomatoes and we raise the price of the radar to a mocking price. So, agree.

              Politicians, real toogos. Good hai - price rejection of projects bypassing Russia. But the United States and the West offer much more.

              So we think.

              You pray that we LONG think.
              1. dodil
                dodil April 16 2012 13: 15 New
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                Eh, Omarushka - lush little head ...
                "Fear Danians - Bringing Gifts"
          2. Goga
            Goga April 16 2012 13: 18 New
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            Azeri-Turk - It's nice to communicate with a reasonable and well-informed person, my "+". Indeed, long-term negotiations cannot be called productive, but in your answer I want to highlight the following words - “Azerbaijan is strangling Armenia economically. By the way, the fruits are not even bad” - this is one of the ways to resolve the urgent issue without war.
            A few days ago, on the same problem, I also wrote that if there is even the slightest chance of using economic, not military leverage, then it’s a sin not to use it.
            And yet - read the "picture of the day" column, which is written in the Ukrainian press about the transfer of Russian military equipment to the south. Here, as it were, without Armenia and Azerbaijan, God knows what’s going on. Why now get into this "mess"?
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 10 New
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              Dear Goga, I don’t know how to write to you so that you understand the whole depth of our pain.

              In economic terms, our refugees are one of the richest in the world, but if you find a program from EuroNews in the search engine, make sure in my words and most importantly that they all say we need KA-RA-BACH.

              As a patriot of my country, as a son of my country, the toad presses me that in my house, the hai have opened a drug farm. Sit and eat and drink my bread my water.

              This is the land of our ancestors, and many think that by delaying time, everything will be forgotten, but in real life we ​​see that the anti-Armenian mood in Azerbaijan is only increasing, I’m afraid, as it were, then they did not give them real genocide. I assure you, no one has forgotten, nothing is forgiven.

              In their own interests, just get out of there. Since if the war starts this time, all the soldiers of Azerbaijan have these shots before their eyes









              and much more. What do you think awaits the Armenians if the people will fight with this in their hearts?

              And how dare the Armenians demand genocide when they themselves are up to their neck in the blood of the Azerbaijani people? Kaaaaaaaak? Why did Ramil chop the Armenian with an ax now? Why alone Mubariz half a hundred Armenians shot without pity understand? Do you understand why our snipers kill Armenians without pity?

              This is just the beginning. In our hearts, pain, and only pain, is beyond our mothers and sisters and father and brothers.

              This time, GOD himself will not save them from the wrath of Azerbaijanis.

              To lead us 1) our homeland. 2) those who died at the hands of these bastards.

              Do you think this is the first time they have done this?

              And now you laugh when the president of Armenia says that anti-Armenian propaganda is being conducted in Azerbaijan.

              CLOWN HE.

              You are a plus. I understand. You are a peaceable person. We, too. We are the most hospitable. This is our brand in the world.

              But we are also southerners. The blood is hot. The blood of our family is washed away with the blood of our enemies.

              Thank God every day, all new faces understand who the Armenians are.

              Health and peace in your home.
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                This time, GOD himself will not save them from the wrath of Azerbaijanis.

                You can't say that, it's blasphemy. For such words, a Muslim leaves Islam. Repent and speak the words of Monotheism.
                Peace to you.
                1. Azeri-Turk
                  Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 16: 43 New
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                  Quote: Murai
                  You can’t say that

                  you're right. anger spoke in me. Astarfullah. May Allah forgive me.
                  In a word, if they fall into our hands ... we will not pity them.
                2. Vazgen one-eared
                  Vazgen one-eared April 17 2012 23: 57 New
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                  I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

                  General rules on the site
                  General rules of conduct on the site:


                  To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

                  Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

                  On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

                  Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

                  Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

                  Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

                  We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

                  Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

                  The site is strictly prohibited:

                  a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

                  Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

                  b) inciting ethnic hatred.

                  When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

                  The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
                  This is for amateurs.

                  Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
                  There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

                  THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

                  God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

                  Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

                  TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

                  Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 10 New
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      Dear Goga, then here we will free our lands and I will immediately fully adhere to your views !! While our territories are occupied, we can think of nothing but the liberation of the Motherland
      and this is my POSITION!
      and I promise that I won’t even take scissors in my hands))
      but under your thoughts in the last paragraph you have written, I completely agree !!
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay April 16 2012 10: 45 New
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    Why suddenly ?? Borders are close and journalists need to write something !!
    This is normal!!
    and Gog does not need to frighten * the flaming Transcaucasians *))
    probably if you were planning a possible war, then you would allow us to think about our * interests *?))
    1. Goga
      Goga April 16 2012 12: 04 New
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      Yarbay - Colleague, the war is not planned by us, and not by you - to arrange a massacre in the Caucasus, at the same time "under the guise" to attack Iran - all in the interests of people who are far, far from the Caucasus. Russia clearly does not need a war near its borders, and it is up to you and the leadership of your country to decide whether a possible war is in your "interests". So far, G. Aliyev has shown himself to be a wise and cautious politician; I don’t think that he will follow the lead of foreign provocateurs.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 24 New
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        I do not know what we are Gog's colleagues!
        Why is the carnage ?? and if this carnage is not built from overseas, is that normal ??)) Russia doesn’t need war ??? not sure !! I agree in Iran! But I’m more than sure about Karabakh!
        As for interests and decisions regarding them, I fully support your opinion!
        1. Goga
          Goga April 16 2012 12: 37 New
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          Yarbay - When I write "Colleague" I mean that both you and I are currently communicating on this site, that is, we are doing the same thing - hence the appeal - Colleague. Everything is simple.
  • SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
    SAMEDOV SULEYMAN April 16 2012 10: 42 New
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    I, in turn, want to lay out the entire text of the Russian political scientist Oleg Kuznetsov, and not the opinion of the author who, cutting out the opinions of certain political scientists from the tat, creates the wrong opinion about the existing relations between Baku and Moscow - Russian political scientist: “Forcing Baku to make global concessions, prohibiting the import of citrus fruits into Russia or grenades from Azerbaijan, at least silly ”

    - Oleg Yuryevich, in May the inauguration of the new President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin will take place. Should we expect changes in Russian-Azerbaijani relations under the new president of Russia?

    - Vladimir Putin is not only the new, but also the “old” president of Russia. Vladimir Putin has already demonstrated his attitude to Azerbaijan and bilateral interstate relations during his previous eight-year presidency in 2000-2008. I think that the development of Russian-Azerbaijani relations will continue to be progressive and stable, it will be aimed at further strengthening interstate ties.

    It turns out that now Russia and Azerbaijan are neither political opponents nor economic competitors. The resources of the Caspian and their consumers have already been divided, the ways of their transit from production sites to consumers and the prices for transport services have been agreed, therefore, in principle, there can be no serious economic and political reasons for changing stable good relations between Russia and Azerbaijan. Our countries are traditionally good neighbors for whom any change in the existing situation in bilateral relations will be mutually disadvantageous, primarily from an economic point of view. Consequently, in the global geopolitical respect, there is no reason for any discord between Russia and Azerbaijan and cannot be in the foreseeable future.

    Q: Will pressure on Azerbaijan intensify under Putin in connection with the Eurasian and Customs unions, to which Baku has not yet shown a special desire to join?

    - Speaking seriously, Moscow has no serious levers of pressure on Azerbaijan now. As no other country in the world has them. Azerbaijan is a self-sufficient state in all respects, which does not depend on any external economic factors. That is, nobody will succeed in buying Azerbaijan, like, say, Georgia or South Ossetia. Therefore, it is not possible to exert any economic pressure on Azerbaijan. This is a counterproductive way of developing international relations, and any sane politician, and Vladimir Putin, of course, is one of such politicians, will never take this path.

    The only possible factor of pressure on Baku from Russia is an attempt to provoke a crisis in the supply of agricultural products of Azerbaijan to the domestic Russian market. But no one will take such a step in Moscow, because this is too narrow a segment of Azerbaijani national exports, sanctions in which in any case can not cause serious economic damage to the Azerbaijani economy. It will be like shooting a sparrow from a cannon - there will be a lot of noise, but the result will be penny. Therefore, except for persuasion or negotiations on mutual concessions, there can be no other way to resolve disputed issues between Russia and Azerbaijan today. Only common sense in interstate diplomatic relations can be applied by Moscow in relation to Baku, as well as Baku in relation to Moscow. If we draw an analogy with family relations, then Moscow and Baku are a sister and a brother, who in any case will have to resolve all the contradictions in a kindred way.

    - By the way, will the recent Rosselkhoznadzor warning lead to a trade war between Russia and Azerbaijan?

    - For Azerbaijan, the supply of its agricultural products to the international market is not of serious importance. Thus, forcing Baku to make any global concessions by introducing, for example, a ban on the import of citrus fruits or pomegranates from Azerbaijan into Russia, is at least silly. Yes, this may have a negative impact on the situation of Azerbaijani farmers or the Azerbaijani diaspora in Russia, half of which are engaged in wholesale and retail trade in agricultural products. But this will not affect the economy of Azerbaijan or Russia. We have, of course, opportunities to exacerbate bilateral relations, but what is the point of them? Therefore, I do not think that a trade war between Russia and Azerbaijan is possible.

    If Rosselkhodnadzor’s claims to its Azerbaijani colleagues nevertheless have real grounds, then for their resolution it will be quite enough to strengthen the sanitary or veterinary control of agricultural products exported from the country from the Azerbaijani side so that all issues are resolved in a working manner.

    - For a long time now, fruitless negotiations between Russia and Azerbaijan have been ongoing over the extension of the lease of the Gabala radar station. Will Moscow and Baku agree on this station and on what terms?

    - I think that the Gabala radar station has no significance in terms of ensuring the defense capability of Azerbaijan. On the other hand, it is a good commercial real estate of defense significance, which only two countries in the world can apply for - these are the USA and Russia. Therefore, the question is, why not Azerbaijan to dispose of it with maximum benefit for itself? Any zealous host would do just that. In addition, Baku is well aware that with the completion of the construction of the Armavir radar station in the next two to three years, the need for the Gabala military base for the Russian armed forces will automatically disappear, and the Americans may not have any interest in it. Therefore, Azerbaijan, of course, is trying to get the maximum from Russia for the lease of this military facility, since it will be the last money for it under this income item.

    Present-day Russia traditionally considers the Caucasus a zone of its geopolitical interests. Therefore, part of Russian politicians and the military initially assumed that all the conditions put forward by Moscow on the Gabala radar station would be automatically and without any additional conditions and negotiations by the Azerbaijani side. But, as we see, the situation is completely different from what the military and political advisers of the current Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev, considered. In principle, Russia cannot talk with Baku about the Gabala radar station from a position of strength. I repeat, she has no levers of pressure on Azerbaijan. The issue can only be considered in the form of negotiations, mutual concessions and nothing more.

    For Americans, of course, the Gabala radar station is interesting. But the United States is now in a not very favorable economic position in order to outbid the right to lease radars from Russia. In addition, this to a large extent counteracts the factor of the presidential race in the USA, in the context of which such "little things" as participation in the tender for the right to rent the Gabala radar station Barack Obama and his political environment can not interest. Under these conditions, Americans can only exert psychological pressure on the negotiation process, trying to indirectly inflict the maximum possible economic damage on Russia, but now there is no question of trying to outbid the lease right.

    I think that after the inauguration of Vladimir Putin, all questions regarding the lease by Russia of a military base in Gabala will be settled. Naturally, the price that was initially offered by Russia will not be paid, since it is already unacceptable for Azerbaijan. But Moscow will not pay the exorbitant amount requested by Baku. Most likely, the parties will come to a compromise solution. The price will be set at the level of the first requests of Baku, when it raised the rent for two times, compared with the current one.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 16 2012 10: 52 New
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      You dear Suleman and Kuznetsova plus !!
  • virm April 16 2012 10: 49 New
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    Turks are Sunnis, and Azerbaijanis are Shiites. And that means irreconcilable religious differences.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 16 2012 10: 55 New
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      Wirm you probably would like these disagreements)
      Stupidity!
      there are no irreconcilable disagreements!
    2. Azeri-Turk
      Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 28 New
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      Quote: virm
      Turks are Sunnis and Azerbaijanis are Shiites

      You forgot to mention the main thing.
      These countries are secular. These countries mainly profess Islam and not cyclists who Shiite and who Sunni.

      So do not worry. Everyone has problems, but we quickly solve them.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 16 2012 11: 38 New
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        And even if there were no secular countries, what is the intransigence of these currents of Islam ??
        stupid things !!
        1. dodil
          dodil April 16 2012 11: 41 New
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          You tell the Saudis wink
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 16 2012 11: 47 New
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            Since when did the Saudis Sunnis?))) I was happy to tell them))
            1. dodil
              dodil April 16 2012 11: 59 New
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              And who said that they are Sunnis?
              I rather about the fact that you are as unfaithful to them as Christians)))
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 25 New
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                and where the Saudis if they are not Sunnis ??
        2. Azeri-Turk
          Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 53 New
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          I also do not know what the intransigence of these trends :) Well they say yes)))))))
          Bizimkilyarya pluslar gyalir. This is another matter.
    3. Kamila
      Kamila April 16 2012 11: 28 New
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      for a Turk, the main thing is the call of blood, this is what unites us! religion goes to 2 plan ....
      1. dodil
        dodil April 16 2012 11: 29 New
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        How for Mowgli? )))
        1. Azeri-Turk
          Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 46 New
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          How for Mowgli? )))

          Like the sultan who cut Andronik Khai ears.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 16 2012 11: 55 New
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            Actually, his ear was cut off not by the Sultan, but also a worthy person))
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 26 New
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              Quote: Yarbay
              Actually, his ear was cut off not by the Sultan, but also a worthy person))

              Really? I always thought it was Sultan Bek .. Look.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 39 New
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                I also had in mind the Sultan bey, but you thought about the Turkish Sultan write))
                And Andronic without an ear is even more sympathetic)))
              2. CCCP1980
                CCCP1980 April 16 2012 13: 58 New
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                VASHEMU VRANYU VERITE TOLKO VI
                aliev DLYA VAS PEREPISAL ISTORIU I SOZDAL V VASHIX UMAX <velikuyu nepobedimuyu armiyu> asqyarlar]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] lol lol
                1. Azeri-Turk
                  Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 19 New
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                  Quote: CCCP1980
                  VASHEMU VRANYU VERITE TOLKO VI

                  57 countries believe that you are not people but animals. I laid out a list of these countries.


                  Quote: CCCP1980
                  aliev DLYA VAS PEREPISAL ISTORIU I SOZDAL V VASHIX UMAX

                  Chushka, write the first letter in the name of the President of Azerbaijan with a capital letter and then we will talk about the history of Great Azerbaijan.

                  And if you behave well, we’ll talk about an outpost called huyastan.
                  1. CCCP1980
                    CCCP1980 April 17 2012 12: 33 New
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                    57 countries believes that you are not people but animals

                    XOT ODIN RAZ VZGLINITE PRAVDU V GLAZA
      2. CCCP1980
        CCCP1980 April 16 2012 13: 53 New
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        OSMANSKUYU IMPERIU SAZDAT XOTITE no
        1. Kamila
          Kamila April 16 2012 14: 10 New
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          Armenian .... again you are not in the subject .. ((((((go, Russian lecture for a start, but in general, my advice, get out of here !!
        2. Azeri-Turk
          Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 19 New
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          Quote: CCCP1980
          OSMANSKUYU IMPERIU SAZDAT XOTITE

          Ai ingots do not give and create. We will create an Azerbaijan empire.
    4. fuad-m7
      fuad-m7 April 16 2012 22: 41 New
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      Quote: virm

      Turks are Sunnis, and Azerbaijanis are Shiites. And that means irreconcilable religious differences.


      Among Azerbaijanis there are also Sunnis as well as among the Turks are sheltered !!!
  • Ascetic April 16 2012 10: 51 New
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    May Aliyev not go for a REAL rapprochement with NATO. Firstly, the entire large Azerbaijani business elite has a considerable share of their interests in Russian companies, most Azerbaijanis are not “migrant workers” but have their own business in Russia, unlike the same Tajiks or Uzbeks. The definition of "gastgescheters" is more suitable for them.
    Moreover, many doctors, policemen, journalists, and municipal officials are actively integrating into the environment of Russian civil servants and intellectuals. Naturally, they have real estate here. they build houses and buy apartments, linking their future with Russia. (This is clearly seen in Moscow). No matter how this is related to this fact, I don’t know if it is true or not even Aliyev’s daughters live in Moscow permanently. Therefore, Aliyev, and any other leader, is simply obliged to take this factor into account in his policy. The open confrontation of Azerbaijan and Russia is, first of all, not necessary for Azerbaijan itself, as well as for Russia, which has there its economic and strategic interests no less than Azerbaijan in Russia. Political disagreements will always exist, but I don’t think that they will be resolved by tough confrontational measures on either side, there will always be a big “backlash” to achieve mutually beneficial compromises.
    As for Armenia, the entire large business elite and the bulk of the intelligentsia are integrated into Western countries, primarily the United States and France, the main financial flows of the Armenian diaspora are concentrated there. If it weren’t for the Karabakh issue, Armenia would surely have drifted actively in the NATO channel. the truth is not as obvious as the frostbitten Georgian Saakashvili. Only the whole point is that Russia is absolutely unprofitable for creating a kind of “second Israel” in the Caucasus in one form or another. The purpose of such “analyzes of independent” media is to push Russia’s Armenia and Armenia’s foreheads, to organize a second Palestine from Karabakh, exposing Russia as the main culprit of the conflict while remaining in the shade themselves influencing events through their ubiquitous lobby
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 16 2012 11: 00 New
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      Dear Stanislav, in principle with regard to NATO, Azerbaijan will move towards rapprochement as it is, but in the coming years membership in this organization does not seem to shine! Moreover, Azerbaijan has joined the movement * non-alignment * About * business elite * in the first place the business elite in Russia, but only a small part of it!
      and even if some part of the business elite lives in Russia, so what ???
      How can this prevent the political leadership of Azerbaijan from making this or that decision ??
      Is not Russia the main culprit of the conflict ??
      1. Ascetic April 16 2012 12: 12 New
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        Is not Russia the main culprit of the conflict ??


        The main culprit of the conflict Gorbachev and his consistent policy on the collapse of the Union. A chain of such conflicts swept in the 80s and 90s from Tajikistan to the Baltic states and Karabakh is not an exceptional phenomenon in the general chain of these conflicts.

        from point of view Soviet leadership mass demonstrations, general strikes and political demands put forward in Armenia represented much great dangerthan the pogroms in Sumgait. The protests on the scale of the union republic constituted “pressure on state power”, which was impossible to put up with. Unlike Azerbaijan, where the local party leadership initially controlled the situation (with the exception of the NKAR), in Armenia the Communist Party rapidly lost power during the nationwide campaign of civil disobedience and by the end of 1988 completely lost credibility. In these circumstances, the Soviet leadership used various tactics: promises of economic assistance, propaganda and intimidation, political pressure through other Union republics, the introduction of direct control and the application of repressive measures: the arrest of leaders of national movements, the introduction of a state of emergency and, finally, military operations against illegal paramilitary groups and deportation of entire communities
        Karabakh movement was supported by "Reformist intelligentsia of Moscow and other large Russian cities, welcoming its peaceful and democratic character"while the reaction of the West to the desire of the Karabakh Armenians for self-determination was cautious at best, because "the governments and the public in the West perceived the Nagorno-Karabakh crisis as nothing more than a complication hampering the Gorbachev reform program"


        Subsequently, all this reformist-minded Shobla migrated to power under Yeltsin, pursuing the same policy and bringing the Karabakh Armenians to power in Armenia because they were “afraid” of strengthening the influence of Heydar Aliyev, alien to him in the Caucasus, in the Caucasus. At the same time, following the “advice” of his overseas puppeteers, trying to play the Islamic card in this conflict with the aim of Islamizing Azerbaijan and removing Aliyev from power. By the way, overseas politicians tried to impose such scenarios by provoking N. Nazarbayev in Kazakhstan. As a result, the NK problem only intensified and in a kind of insoluble form “inherited” the new leadership of Russia.

        Over 4 years, Dmitry Medvedev held several meetings with the presidents of Azerbaijan and Armenia, trying to resolve the Karabakh conflict. Will Putin continue the policy of his predecessor in the settlement of the Karabakh conflict?
        - The fact that Vladimir Putin will continue the negotiation process to resolve the Karabakh conflict is indisputable. But this issue cannot be resolved by the two parties, which are Azerbaijan and Armenia. Unfortunately, it can no longer be resolved and only with the help of a third party - Russia. Unfortunately, pro-American forces are involved in this process. Here, as in the resistance of materials, there is a alignment of several forces. The strength of Russia alone is not enough. And I would like Putin, in the person of Russia, to become the center of gravity of these forces. He manages to do this in the domestic policy of Russia, but, unfortunately, this is not yet happening in foreign policy.
        Who do you mean by “pro-American forces”?
        - I call America itself a pro-American force, which itself and through its satellite countries, which are members of NATO, impose their geopolitical interests. Regarding Karabakh, we now have to talk about keeping the situation, and not about its radical change. Unfortunately this is the case.
        - That is, Russia, like Armenia, benefits from the current status quo? But he does not suit Azerbaijan, whose territories remain under occupation?
        - The current status quo is beneficial both to Russia and Azerbaijan, however strange it may seem. Profitable today. It takes time to get stronger, and then make political decisions. Azerbaijan should understand that it is better to be shoulder to shoulder with Russia, which does not deceive him, than to merge in an embrace with America, which will strangle him later, as is often the case.
        - Recently, Armenia’s attempts to pull Israel over to its side have become more frequent, in particular, they talk a lot about the recognition of the “Armenian genocide” in Israel. In your opinion, how likely is Israel to reconsider its foreign policy guidelines in the South Caucasus, where Azerbaijan now appears as the main partner?
        Azerbaijan will continue to be the main partner of Israel. Azerbaijan has a part of the Caspian Sea and oil! And what does Armenia have besides a trick? Nothing. Thus, Israel, in my opinion, simply plays with Armenia like a cat and a mouse, taking Armenians for their feelings. The "Armenian Genocide" is one thing, the Israelis simply step on the "tail" of Turkey, pretending to revise their foreign policy orientations towards Armenia. But “genocide” is one thing, and the conflict in Karabakh is another. I do not think that Israel will reconsider its foreign policy guidelines in the South Caucasus, and Azerbaijan will remain its main partner.


        My webpage
    2. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
      SAMEDOV SULEYMAN April 16 2012 11: 21 New
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      Hello Stanislav! Your opinion is more objective and does not have bipolarity, unlike the opinions of some participants in the site. Which, with each article, depending on the context, change their minds, and not defend it.
      1. Vazgen one-eared
        Vazgen one-eared April 18 2012 00: 06 New
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        I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

        General rules on the site
        General rules of conduct on the site:


        To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

        Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

        On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

        Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

        Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

        Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

        We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

        Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

        The site is strictly prohibited:

        a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

        Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

        b) inciting ethnic hatred.

        When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

        The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
        This is for amateurs.

        Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
        There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

        THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

        God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

        Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

        TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

        Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
    3. Azeri-Turk
      Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 32 New
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      From me you are a plus. Everything is clear. Nothing to say. One thing I can’t understand is why Russia is not in alliance with Azerbaijan considering all these interests? And if not for the support of Russia to the Armenians in the Karabakh issue, Armenia would long ago have turned into NATO headquarters in the Transcaucasus. Why, given the good neighborly relations and interests between our countries, Russia relied on Armenia. WRONG BET.
      1. dodil
        dodil April 16 2012 14: 03 New
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        Before writing about the alliance between Russia and "Azeri-Turkey", you need to remember your favorite "multicultural-tolerant"))
        dodil RU April 7, 2012 10:50 | New batch of Azerbaijan MI-35M combat helicopters

        Lobster laughing laughing laughing
        You especially succeeded in the passage:
        "After 20 years we’ll rest,
        In Russia we will start
        And gullible Vanya
        We grab the land to Ryazan. "

        Are you deleting your previous comments yourself?
        1. Kamila
          Kamila April 16 2012 14: 21 New
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          Quote: dodil
          Lobster
          You especially succeeded in the passage:
          "After 20 years we’ll rest,
          In Russia we will start
          And gullible Vanya
          We grab the land to Ryazan. "


          Apparently, this is painfully dear, familiar, so you can’t forget in any way ..... it's nice to read these lines ... and ?? David? because this is so ... this is your whole essence ...
        2. Azeri-Turk
          Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 24 New
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          Quote: dodil
          We grab the land to Ryazan. "


          Oh, you hai spawn, you add the Armenian dream to Azerbaijan? You write a dream of Armenians on behalf of Azerbaijan. Why do not you spread the whole HAI verse and dream?

          Do not live the planet without Armenians! Once the Catalikos serpent, Having tuned all Armenians nose to nose, Spoken:? Our finest hour has come! Lord and France for us! And by this, casting aside fear First we ask Karabakh, Then, friends, casting aside shame, Let's start screaming about genocide More tears and miserable faces The Lord will forgive us this lie! Scream as if Karabakh, In the primary sources - Artsakh! And so that every Armenian is a historian, doctor, commoner He maintained one thing, like a parrot, That Karabakh is the Armenian region. Perhaps our number will pass, A miracle will happen, lucky It will be possible for the Turks to harm And then why live in the world? After 20 years we’ll rest In Russia we’ll get a shukher And from the gullible Vanya We grab the land to Ryazan. As Kaputikyan says, Do not live a planet without Armenians! Wise, calculating nature, the family can not live without a freak!
          1. dodil
            dodil April 16 2012 15: 11 New
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            Are you erasing your posts for this? In order to say later - it wasn’t, you arranged everything yourself))))
            Have you ever been discharged for such a puncture in your MGB? )))))
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 15: 24 New
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              Quote: dodil
              Are you erasing your posts for this?

              contact the moderators on these issues.
              Quote: dodil
              Have you ever been discharged for such a puncture in your MGB?

              I don’t know how from the MGB, but from the MNS, believe me they won’t do anything))))))))))))
              Believe me.
    4. fuad-m7
      fuad-m7 April 16 2012 22: 50 New
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      Ascetic Today, 10:51 12
      May Aliyev not go for a REAL rapprochement with NATO. Firstly, the entire large Azerbaijani business elite has a considerable share of their interests in Russian companies, most Azerbaijanis are not “migrant workers” but have their own business in Russia, unlike the same Tajiks or Uzbeks. The definition of "gastgescheters" is more suitable for them.
      Moreover, many doctors, policemen, journalists, and municipal officials are actively integrating into the environment of Russian civil servants and intellectuals. Naturally, they have real estate here. they build houses and buy apartments, linking their future with Russia. (This is clearly seen in Moscow). No matter how this is related to this fact, I don’t know if it is true or not even Aliyev’s daughters live in Moscow permanently. Therefore, Aliyev, and any other leader, is simply obliged to take this factor into account in his policy. The open confrontation of Azerbaijan and Russia is, first of all, not necessary for Azerbaijan itself, as well as for Russia, which has there its economic and strategic interests no less than Azerbaijan in Russia. Political disagreements will always exist, but I don’t think that they will be resolved by tough confrontational measures on either side, there will always be a big “backlash” to achieve mutually beneficial compromises.
      As for Armenia, the entire large business elite and the bulk of the intelligentsia are integrated into Western countries, primarily the United States and France, the main financial flows of the Armenian diaspora are concentrated there. If it weren’t for the Karabakh issue, Armenia would surely have drifted actively in the NATO channel. the truth is not as obvious as the frostbitten Georgian Saakashvili. Only the whole point is that Russia is absolutely unprofitable for creating a kind of “second Israel” in the Caucasus in one form or another. The purpose of such “analyzes of independent” media is to push Russia’s Armenia and Armenia’s foreheads, to organize a second Palestine from Karabakh, exposing Russia as the main culprit of the conflict while remaining in the shade themselves influencing events through their ubiquitous lobby

      good drinks everything is correctly written well, not some site participants write as if Azerbaijan is the enemy No. 1 for Russia !!!
  • AK-74-1 April 16 2012 11: 10 New
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    I agree with the opinion of Ascetic. For which he "+". Still, it’s better to live peacefully and negotiate.
    1. Vazgen one-eared
      Vazgen one-eared April 17 2012 23: 57 New
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      I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

      General rules on the site
      General rules of conduct on the site:


      To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

      Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

      On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

      Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

      Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

      Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

      We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

      Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

      The site is strictly prohibited:

      a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

      Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

      b) inciting ethnic hatred.

      When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

      The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
      This is for amateurs.

      Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
      There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

      THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

      God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

      Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

      TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

      Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
  • core April 16 2012 11: 18 New
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    I am far from the Caucasus, not quite in the subject, but the Karabakh Armenians will not surrender, this is my opinion. there was already one war, Azerbaijan lost it. he was not weaker, just the Armenians and Azerbaijanis have a different mentality. if there will be a new war, again I’m not sure that Azerbaijan will win, and if it does, it will be a “feast of victory”. and no refugees from Baku will go to populate the conquered rocks.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 16 2012 11: 25 New
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      That's always the case!
      ! This is purely Russian * know-how * that we have been hearing for 20 years))
      As soon as the Russian media starts talking about conflicts on the territory of the CIS, they write and wrote about * invincibility * first of the South Ossetian army and then the Armenian in Karabakh)
      about the imaginary * incredible * spirit * of the armies * of the separatists!))
      and how we saw Ossetians running and how you and we will see the Armenians running!
      and in war we will conquer with God's help and populate the land !!
      1. dodil
        dodil April 16 2012 11: 27 New
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        "And eat the fish, and drink the aquarium")))
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 16 2012 11: 35 New
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          And Armenia, the anus will be cleaned with high-tech means !!))
          1. dodil
            dodil April 16 2012 11: 42 New
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            What, what, and you clear the back passages of the master)))
            Moreover, the funds appeared, high-tech)))
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 06 New
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              Quote: dodil
              What, what, and you can clean the back passages

              Armenian women in Turkey is evidence of your words.
              Serge’s words that we are a great nation, our fighting spirit, super muper, noooooooooo CSTO for naas, They will save us. Also testifies to the correctness of your words.


              Quote: dodil
              Moreover, the funds appeared, high-tech)))

              They are designed to clean high passages. Believe me.
        2. synchrophasatron
          synchrophasatron April 16 2012 11: 36 New
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          Quote: dodil

          "And eat the fish, and drink the aquarium")))
          Armenian folk wisdom
        3. Azeri-Turk
          Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 11: 51 New
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          Quote: dodil
          "And eat the fish, and drink the aquarium")))

          It seems that the Armenians and Western fish eat and want to sit on a Russian stump.
      2. core April 16 2012 11: 47 New
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        can enlighten me. about the reasons that did not allow you to conquer Karabakh? I’ll read it carefully, but I don’t need to talk about the “hand of Moscow”.
        1. synchrophasatron
          synchrophasatron April 16 2012 11: 51 New
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          Dear,

          Quote: core
          just don’t need me to talk about the “hand of Moscow”.


          necessary. The offensive of the Azerbaijani army was stopped by Russian helicopters from Vaziani. You did not know about this? Have you heard about the 366th regiment?

          According to almost all refugees from Khojaly, military personnel of the 366th regiment took part in the storming of the city, some of them entering the city.
          ...
          According to information received from the Armenian side, combat vehicles of the 366th regiment with crews, shelling Khojaly, but not entering the city directly, took part in the storming of the city.
          ...
          Military personnel of the 366th motorized rifle regiment belonging to the troops of the Commonwealth of Independent States took part in the assault on Khojaly. According to the Memorial human rights center, the facts of the participation of CIS troops in military operations and military operations in the conflict region, as well as the facts of the transfer of military equipment to the parties of the conflicting parties, require a special investigation
          1. dodil
            dodil April 16 2012 12: 06 New
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            Respected.
            Khojaly was in 1992.
            A truce was signed in 1994.
            And 366 SMEs were taken out of the conflict zone in 1992.
            So in both 1993 and 1994, the specific Armenians were hanging on you.
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 29 New
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              Quote: dodil
              Respected.
              Khojaly was in 1992.

              Do you know how many Russians there were during the war in Karabakh? You know, they all regretted that they fought on your side. I can bring you a thousand examples. I think here the citizens of Russia will support my post.

              Do not lie David.
              1. dodil
                dodil April 16 2012 12: 47 New
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                Yeah, support. Eat up your "atomic tomatoes" (see above) and will definitely support))))))
              2. Ascetic April 16 2012 13: 17 New
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                Quote: Azeri-Turk
                Do you know how many Russians there were during the war in Karabakh? You know, they all regretted that they fought on your side. I can bring you a thousand examples. I think here the citizens of Russia will support my post.


                Do not forget that then, in the wake of the events in Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and the North Caucasus, the majority of Russians began to regard all Muslims and residents of Central Asia and the Caucasus as potential terrorists and invaders who need to be fought, including and to Azerbaijanis .. Only Chechnya answered the question of who is who in reality, since there weren’t, in particular, Azerbaijani mercenaries and terrorists, there were no martyrs who blew up our houses and the metro. Now, in relation to Azerbaijanis in Russia, the “Soviet” attitude prevails as peaceful traders from the south (if you do not take into account the crime that would benefit from the aggravation of contradictions on “money” in the section
                spheres of influence). The people are just going to have a negative and wary attitude towards Chechens and Dagis, but by no means towards Azerbaijanis, Armenians, and even Georgians. If we talk about the Armenians, then they were treated like peculiar Caucasian Jews and continue to be related.
                Therefore, no one in Russia is eager to fight for some kind of distant and “not ours,” unlike Chechnya and Dagestan region on either side. Putin will immediately lose the confidence of the army, not to mention the people. Why do we need a second Afghanistan when our soldiers die every day in the same Dagestan? He probably understands this very well and will do everything so that Russia DOES NOT WAR in the NK. Despite all the CSTO and treaties. As regards Armenia, while Karabakh Armenians are in power there, a peaceful dialogue is impossible, if the Yerevan Armenians come, the dialogue is possible until the conflict is resolved in favor of Azerbaijan (in return for NATO membership), but then Russia will completely lose its influence on Armenia (in addition to the lost Georgia ), but will the question be ambiguous in return for friendship with Azerbaijan? In general, there are many questions and few answers.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay April 16 2012 13: 30 New
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                  Dear Stanislav, your analysis is interesting, but it seems to me at the beginning it’s not entirely true !!
                  Not the events in the republics you named became a catalyst for relations, but MEDIA PROMOTION and the policy of the Russian leadership!
                  Stanislav, pay attention besides the Baltic republics, only skinhead and fascist organizations became widespread in Russia, and of course this could not have happened without the support of the political leadership!
                  Otherwise, I would rather agree with your opinion, although there are many doubts! I’m about the position of Russia today!
                  1. core April 16 2012 16: 14 New
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                    skinhead and fascist organizations, this is not the reality of RUSSIA, but sucked dandruff from under the nails and bloated to the size of an elephant controlled by the media of the West.
                  2. nmd_1
                    nmd_1 April 17 2012 12: 19 New
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                    But what are the statements of your inexperienced comrade not fascist? I have not seen so much negative in comments for a long time. Your Azeri-Armenian showdown has already gotten. Get a website and arrange srach there.
                    1. Anonymous
                      Anonymous April 17 2012 12: 24 New
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                      You just need to make sure that no one gets into their disassembly and let the fittest survive. Although the Armenians are unlikely to agree. They are not a step without Russia. And I don’t feel like getting in either. And so many Russians laid their heads on other people's wars.
                  3. Vazgen one-eared
                    Vazgen one-eared April 18 2012 00: 30 New
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                    FUCK ARMENIAN. IM NOT KARABAKH.
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay April 16 2012 13: 50 New
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                  rather about the possible position of Russia!
                3. Azeri-Turk
                  Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 13 New
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                  Ascetic, plus a colleague to you. The exact characterization was given to the problem.
                  But tell me, how do you see the solution to the Karabakh issue?
                4. Nemesis 13
                  Nemesis 13 12 June 2012 18: 45 New
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                  Quote: Ascetic
                  If we talk about the Armenians, then they were treated like peculiar Caucasian Jews and continue to be related.

                  Stanislav poprashu podrobno. chto vi ineli vidu
                  Quote: Ascetic
                  Caucasian Jews
            2. Vazgen one-eared
              Vazgen one-eared April 17 2012 23: 55 New
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              I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

              General rules on the site
              General rules of conduct on the site:


              To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

              Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

              On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

              Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

              Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

              Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

              We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

              Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

              The site is strictly prohibited:

              a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

              Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

              b) inciting ethnic hatred.

              When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

              The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
              This is for amateurs.

              Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
              There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

              THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

              God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

              Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

              TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

              Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
          2. core April 16 2012 12: 12 New
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            oddly enough, the ARMY was stopped by the regiment. maybe the army was not eager to liberate its lands? about the "transfer" of military property, stupidly looted arsenals. that one side, that the other. ensigns ka we all know always and everywhere local. facts of participation of the CIS troops - you yourself were the CIS at that time.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay April 16 2012 12: 28 New
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              Core!
              that’s just what the army in the generally accepted sense of the word was then from Azerbaijan!
              1. dodil
                dodil April 16 2012 12: 36 New
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                Why then climbed?
                How to participate in the operation "Ring" - so you are heroes.
                And how to fight - so "darling" was not enough!
                1. PAP
                  PAP April 16 2012 14: 46 New
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                  Why not enough - enough. 30 thousand dead - this is also a kind of indicator. They could not win - yes, but 10-12 thousand Armenians perished in that war too. All figures about the military of course. You don’t have to pretend that you’re not afraid - you’re afraid the same way, and you and our trenches don’t have robots - but ordinary young boys, some are bolder, some are not. It’s another matter that nobody already understands from you what you got from the Karabakh conflict — an eternal war only, a degrading state, where 57% of people according to polls are ready to immigrate at any time, and bandits in power.
                  1. dodil
                    dodil April 16 2012 15: 18 New
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                    30 thousand dead, with 10-12 thousand from the enemy - this is an indicator of what?
                    In terms of armaments, we caught up with you only at the end of 1993.
                    By the number of inhabitants - you have always been more.
                    "In a series of speeches, Aliyev accused the army commanders and heads of the captured regions of treason. Announcing to the parliament about the fall of the cities of Fizuli and Jabrail, he accused the commanders of the fact that instead of holding the front, they were sitting in Baku and engaged in arranging their cottages. 11 December, at a meeting with the heads of administrations of the lost districts, which lasted several hours and was broadcast on national television, Aliyev evilly cracked down each leader individually, demanding
                    explain why they fled before the mainstream populations. The President sadly announced that the entire Zangelan region had been surrendered to the enemy at the cost of the death of only 27 soldiers. "Thomas de Waal" Black Garden. Between Peace and War "
                    1. PAP
                      PAP April 16 2012 15: 36 New
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                      An indicator that we were not ready for war. But still they came to her. Bad military leaders were also, I do not deny. We have never really had our own army, and terrorist training camps like those of ASALA, too. Everything needs time, and this time we already had, now the army is different.
                      1. dodil
                        dodil April 16 2012 15: 40 New
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                        Now the world is also different wink
                      2. Nemesis 13
                        Nemesis 13 12 June 2012 18: 54 New
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                        Quote: RAR
                        We have never really had our own army


                        Afghan Mujahideen, Pakistani specials. services, Chechen mercenaries
                        Turkish Aficers and Askari, even several Turkish generals, this list is very long
                        BADDY DANCER MIXED EGGS
            2. PAP
              PAP April 16 2012 14: 03 New
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              There is nothing strange. Professional military against actually militias. By analogy - riot police against the demonstration.
            3. synchrophasatron
              synchrophasatron April 16 2012 15: 43 New
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              Quote: core
              ARMY


              which army? volunteer battalions
          3. Vazgen one-eared
            Vazgen one-eared April 17 2012 23: 52 New
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            I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

            General rules on the site
            General rules of conduct on the site:


            To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

            Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

            On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

            Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

            Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

            Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

            We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

            Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

            The site is strictly prohibited:

            a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

            Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

            b) inciting ethnic hatred.

            When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

            The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
            This is for amateurs.

            Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
            There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

            THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

            God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

            Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

            TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

            Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
          4. Nemesis 13
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            Quote: synchrophasatron
            According to information received from the Armenian side, combat vehicles of the 366th regiment with crews that fired on Khojaly but did not enter the city directly took part in the assault on the city

            lies as always
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 16 2012 11: 58 New
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          all that sisofozotron wrote correctly!
          Plus reconnaissance subversive work also by Russian services, especially since there was no opposition at that time!
        3. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
          SAMEDOV SULEYMAN April 16 2012 12: 04 New
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          Quote: core
          just don’t need me to talk about the “hand of Moscow”.

          Then let's talk about the pipes-Afonya
          1. Nemesis 13
            Nemesis 13 12 June 2012 18: 56 New
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            Quote: SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
            Quote: core
            just don’t need me to talk about the “hand of Moscow”.

            Then let's talk about the pipes-Afonya


            or the hand of Turkey
        4. Azeri-Turk
          Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 12: 07 New
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          Quote: core
          about the reasons that did not allow you to conquer Karabakh?

          The owners of the Armenians. That is the reason. Don't you know?
          1. core April 16 2012 12: 33 New
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            I don’t remember that Americans would bomb Baku.
          2. CCCP1980
            CCCP1980 April 16 2012 14: 20 New
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            QOZI LAKOT MORT QUNEM \
            SVOY ADRES DASH V GOSTI XOCHU
            1. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 38 New
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              Quote: CCCP1980
              QOZI LAKOT MORT QUNEM \
              SVOY ADRES DASH V GOSTI XOCHU

              whoever doesn’t come, I’ve done his mum’s kunem.
              I'm here all the time

              Address: Baku, AZ1006, Parliamentary Avenue, 2

              you poor guy if you had money for a ticket, then you would have left for Russia and not for me. So I gave you kunem mammat ... address. Come over
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay April 16 2012 14: 43 New
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                ))))))))))) Countryman is nothing if I come to you after winning the war I will come with English tea?))))))))) wink and together we will watch the broadcast from the Hague tribunal over Armenian war criminals !!)))
                1. Azeri-Turk
                  Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 15: 26 New
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                  A fellow countryman, is it okay if I come to you after winning the war with English tea?))))))))) And together we will watch the broadcast from the Hague tribunal over Armenian war criminals !!)

                  Gurbandy)))))) fellow countrymen, my doors are always open. We will drink tea and baklava and eat and play backgammon and all that is needed.
              2. dodil
                dodil April 16 2012 15: 20 New
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                Ministry of Homeland Security Public Relations Center
                Address: Baku, AZ1006, Parliamentary Avenue, 2

                When was the last time you were in the village, a computer warrior?
                Itself, I suppose, you won’t climb into the trench.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay April 16 2012 15: 31 New
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                  So go to the center and ask Azeri-Turk!
                  Write here and we will not shame him and generally we will not talk to him)))))))))))))
                  1. Azeri-Turk
                    Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 15: 45 New
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                    I agree. Let them come in and ask me, and if I do not go out, then let them shame.
                    Yes, I’m ready to meet him at the airport. No problem.
                2. Azeri-Turk
                  Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 15: 47 New
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                  Hey hi, you asked, I told you, come visit, then you will see who I am.
                  You asked where I am sitting, I said where I am sitting.
                  it is up to you to decide whether to come or not. As I wrote in Armenian, so that it also comes to you
                  shut ari, ov cga, tiroc mor berani ...
                  and whoever does not meet you there, with a smile for a start, is the same.
              3. CCCP1980
                CCCP1980 April 16 2012 22: 20 New
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                Azeri-Turk,
                tak ti internet asqyar aylrbi txa togda jdi gostey
                1. Azeri-Turk
                  Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 23: 08 New
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                  Quote: CCCP1980
                  tak ti internet asqyar aylrbi txa togda jdi gostey

                  JOUT ARI OV SGA TIROCH MOR BERANI.
            2. Azeri-Turk
              Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 56 New
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              JOUT ARI OV SGA TIROCH MOR BERANI.
      3. Vazgen one-eared
        Vazgen one-eared April 17 2012 23: 59 New
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        I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

        General rules on the site
        General rules of conduct on the site:


        To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

        Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

        On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

        Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

        Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

        Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

        We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

        Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

        The site is strictly prohibited:

        a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

        Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

        b) inciting ethnic hatred.

        When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

        The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
        This is for amateurs.

        Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
        There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

        THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

        God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

        Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

        TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

        Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
    2. PAP
      PAP April 16 2012 14: 02 New
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      It’s not a matter of mentality, just the Armenians were preparing for this war and were ready, Azerbaijan wasn’t. At that time there were too many problems associated with the collapse of the Union, and with the ensuing squabble for power, etc. A bunch of the remaining weapons are not made of young boys soldiers. I remember very well how the call was carried out then - a bus drove into the streets and all the young people were raked into it. So there is nothing surprising as a result of the Nagorno Karabakh conflict, the Armenians were more prepared for it both psychologically and in terms of attracting political resources.
      1. Azeri-Turk
        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 25 New
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        Countryman, osyumyuskulyar plus goy. Yashyl ​​button bass.
        This is so, for solidarity.
  • PAP
    PAP April 16 2012 14: 16 New
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    As for the article itself, it seems to me that it is absolutely right that the side that has a thoughtful policy in the South Caucasus and gets some advantages. In this case, it is the West. Russia had and still has every chance to drag Az-n to its side, if only because we were part of one country that gave a lot to Az-well and still has a historical memory of this and loyalty or something. So far, the political space from Russia towards Azn has been mostly negative over the past 20 years - mainly related to Russia's support for Armenia. Everything else is simply the result of this event - oil pipelines, Nabbucco, talk about NATO and bases. It is obvious that the country, not receiving support from Russia, will try to find it somewhere else.
    1. dodil
      dodil April 16 2012 14: 35 New
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      The West is not a country.
      Thanks to Stepan Shaumyan (After the February Revolution of 1917, the chairman of the Baku Council. In October 1917 he chaired the 1st Congress of Bolshevik organizations in the Caucasus, in December Shaumyan was appointed extraordinary commissioner for Caucasus affairs. Since April, he has been chairman of the Baku Council of People’s Commissars (SNK) and commissioner for foreign affairs (see. Baku Commune 1918) Azerbaijan appeared on the world map, became part of the USSR and left the custody of the Ottoman brother.
      But you are still Turks.
      You will always talk with the West and with Russia and with any other non-Muslim country in the same way as the Ottomans did during the times of the "Brilliant Port".
      But, we must pay tribute, before you get the scimitar out of its sheath, you will smile at all 32 laughing
      1. Azeri-Turk
        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 14: 48 New
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        Quote: dodil
        Azerbaijan appeared on the world map

        when did you appear on the map? and in general, when did you get independence? and in general, when the word ARMENIAN ASSR appeared ??????
      2. PAP
        PAP April 16 2012 14: 56 New
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        you know, from the history of the Armenians wherever you were - you always betrayed those who lived with you side by side, first betrayed Turkey - until the events that you call genocide, then Azn - where the Dashnaks very quickly began to slaughter all neighbors, then already in the 90s they betrayed Az-n again, at the same time substituting 500 thousand Armenians who lived in Baku. Now, by reverence towards NATO, you are preparing to betray Russia. By the way, there is another analogy - always after that. how did you betray someone - then you were cut. There was always some kind of short-term success - and then a blood bath for you. That is why you left a stub from a huge country that used to be, which was constantly decreasing as a result of your betrayals. I am sure that once again everything will end for you with a blood bath
        1. dodil
          dodil April 16 2012 15: 25 New
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          "First betrayed Turkey" - this is how Russia betrayed the Tatar-Mongol Igo))))
          Armenians in Baku - those who survived in 1990?
          "From a once huge country" - so from your own brothers-Turks-Persians, whom then someone betrayed))))) and became "huge once."
          1. PAP
            PAP April 16 2012 15: 43 New
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            The fact remains - betrayed, the reasons for this is the second question. About 500 thousand Armenians lived in Baku, during the events of the 90th 32 people were killed if I am not mistaken, including 6 Azerbaijanis. These are the conclusions of the court of the USSR, by the way, not mine. So consider how many of your Armenians you framed.

            As for a huge country, if I’m not mistaken, your maximum territory was in the 2nd or 1st century BC under King Tigran 2m. There was no trace of Turkey then. Yes, and the essence does not change this - what was a stub. If I am not mistaken, the Armenians are the only nation other than Roma where in the so-called historical lands fewer people live than in the world. Unlike by the way from the same Azerbaijan, or Russia, or Georgia
            1. Vazgen one-eared
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              FUCK ARMENIAN. IM NOT KARABAKH.
          2. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 15: 50 New
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            Hai, do you already call your masters traitors? Are not you ashamed? you eat Russian bread and call them traitors.

            Whose serf will you be? I didn’t enter something.
            1. dodil
              dodil April 16 2012 19: 38 New
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              From the indictment in the case of Zara Murtazalieva.
              "Zara Murtazalieva, being an active member of gangs conducting military operations with federal forces, having undergone special training in a suicide bombing camp near the city of Baku of the Republic of Azerbaijan, arrived in Moscow in September 2003 to organize terrorist acts ..."
              The personal diary of Zulikhan Elikhadzhieva, a terrorist killer who blew herself up and those around her in line at the box office at the rock festival in Tushino, which describes how she traveled to Baku with her half-brother Jage, with whom Zulihan was in a criminal love affair, has been preserved. It was in Baku that the brother-lover, with the help of other criminals, Azerbaijanis Hasan and Yusuf, recruited Zulikhan into a killer suicide bomber.
              Yulia Yuzik, author of The Brides of Allah and a recognized expert on the issue of suicide bombers, writes in her book: “Baku, Azerbaijan is the center of everything. Wahhabism, the ideological training of Chechen suicide bombers, the financing of terrorist attacks from abroad. I know this from the people with whom I communicated throughout the year - a variety of people, and from "that" and "this" side. "
              In 2010, the largest and most respected International Organization for the Suppression of Financial Abuses (FATF) included Azerbaijan in a limited list of states financing terrorism. According to numerous reports of international structures and the US State Department, Azerbaijan is the largest transshipment point for drug trafficking in Russia and Europe, which is also confirmed by documents recently published by WikiLeaks. According to the UN, over the past 4 years, the volume of smuggling of heroin through the territory of Azerbaijan has increased dramatically. Does anyone doubt that a significant part of the profits from transit and drugs grown in Azerbaijan are spent on terrorist purposes?
              At the end of February last year, Russian FSB officers checked the network of Sunna stores selling religious literature in the Dagestan Republic. In the course of inspections, a large amount of literature promoting radical Wahhabism was seized from the sale. Did you notice then that the Sunnah shops selling terrorism-promoting and inciting terrorism literature are the property of the Islamic leader of Azerbaijan, Sheikh ul-Islam Haji Allah Shukur Haji Zadeh?
              In June last year, the leader of the underground extremist terrorist organization "Nurjular" ("Nursists" - L.M.-Sh.) Azerbaijani citizen Ilham Islamly was arrested in Nizhny Novgorod. In his apartment, a large amount of extremist literature was discovered, purchased in the shops of the Sunnah belonging to the Azerbaijani sheikh.
              A huge number of Azerbaijani terrorists settled in Russia. The names of some of them are now firmly associated with many civilian casualties. Sadulla Cheruglanov, Nabi Abiyev, Eldar Heydarov, Ilgar Mollachiev, who ensured the transfer to Russia of more than thirty terrorists from Azerbaijan (anyone can add to this list dozens of names listed on the numerous websites of Azerbaijani Islamists). It is symptomatic that during a terrorist attack in the building of the House of Culture on Dubrovka in Moscow, when many spectators of the musical “Nord-Ost” died, one of the holding hostages of the terrorists called the editorial office of the Azerbaijani newspaper Echo, which was pleased to provide him with a newspaper page for “ interview"
              1. Vazgen one-eared
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                FUCK ARMENIAN. IM NOT KARABAKH.
      3. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 16 2012 15: 09 New
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        In 1978, in honor of the 150th anniversary of the resettlement in Karabakh, the Armenians erected a monument "Maraga-150" in the village of Maragashen (the name of this village comes from the name of the city of Maragi in South Azerbaijan, from where the first two hundred Armenian families moved and settled in Karabakh) of the Agderin region of the Azerbaijan Republic . After the beginning of the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, in 1988 the figure 150, and later the entire obelisk was destroyed by the Armenians in order to hide this historical fact forever.
        1. dodil
          dodil April 16 2012 15: 30 New
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          Is this about this village?
          prehistory
          The village of Maraga (Leninavan) was located in the Mardakert region in the north of Nagorno-Karabakh, on the border with the Mirbashir district (Terter district), near the Azerbaijani city of Mir-Bashir (Terter). [2] According to the latest census in 1989, 4660 people lived in the village, mainly Armenians.
          Events
          According to eyewitnesses, in the early morning of April 10, 1992, the village was subjected to artillery (or mortar) shelling, as in previous days; closer to noon, shelling intensified, and Azerbaijani armed forces advanced in the direction of the village. Members of the local self-defense unit warned residents that they would not be able to maintain their positions, located about 2 kilometers from the village. According to the testimony of a witness who refers to the words of the villagers, most of the residents and militias left the village, but some of the residents, mostly elderly people and people with disabilities, hid in basements and shelters dug in the ground. Returning to the village the next day, the Armenians, according to them, found about 40-50 bodies of the dead, some of whom were beheaded, dismembered, charred or bore signs of torture. About 50 people were taken hostage, of which twelve never returned.
          Data on the number and composition of victims
          Estimates of the number of victims of the massacre vary slightly. In its 1992 document, Human Rights Watch, the international human rights organization, referred to the only testimony received from a maragin militia - a combatant who, upon returning to the village, counted forty-three killed. The Chairman of the NKR Parliament, Georgy Petrosyan, claimed 53 civilians killed during or as a result of the Azerbaijani attack. At the same time, the Human Rights Watch document notes that it remains unclear how he distinguished civilians from members of the self-defense unit, while at the same time suggesting that “apparently this number includes forty-three victims, who were supposedly executed by Azerbaijanis. " In 1998, British human rights activist Caroline Cox, who visited the village with a group of members of the Christian Solidarity Worldwide organization immediately after the tragedy (in her words, “just a few hours after the attack”), named such figures - 45 dead villagers and 100 hostages ( women and children). In 2001, she in an interview with “The Voice of Armenia” stated: “The number of 45 brutally murdered is called, but I cannot guarantee its accuracy” [7].
          A list of victims was presented to Human Rights Watch by the Commission on Karabakh Affairs of the Parliament of the Republic of Armenia. Subsequently, the political scientist and journalist Levon Melik-Shakhnazaryan (in 1992, one of the NKR leaders) published a list of 57 dead residents (including 30 women) - in addition, he said, 45 people were taken hostage, among them 9 children and 29 women. Melik-Shahnazaryan said that on April 13, in the presence of Caroline Cox, the bodies of the dead were exhumed. The videos made during the exhumation, as he said, are “at the disposal” of the NKR leadership. The bodies of the slain were dismembered, mutilated, desecrated, burned.
          Melik-Shakhnazaryan writes that two weeks later the village was attacked again, as a result of which the population was forcibly deported, 13 residents were taken hostage, and houses were looted and burned. The village actually ceased to exist.
          Media coverage
          Both Armenian and independent sources note that despite the extreme cruelty of the incident, the massacre in Maragh remains almost unknown and not reflected in the media. According to Caroline Cox, the English newspaper Daily Telegraph at first agreed to print its report on the massacre in Maragh, but then refused:
          The English newspaper Daily Telegraph agreed with me on an exclusive report on its pages using photographic materials, so I did not contact other newspapers. However, time passed, but there was no publication. I called the editor in chief and he said that he decided not to print the material. “But a few weeks ago you published a report on the events in Khojaly, why do not you want to print the truth about the tragedy in Maragh?” I asked. He replied: "I do not think that we should trade in tragedies while maintaining balance." And hung up.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 16 2012 15: 37 New
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            Along with the genocide of the Azerbaijani population in Khojaly, Garadaghly, Malibeyli, one of the most brutal acts of vandalism and crimes of Armenian nationalists is the capture of the village of Agdaban in the Kalbajar region of Azerbaijan on April 7-8, 1992. In connection with this mournful date, Azerbaijani filmmakers created a documentary about the tragedy of the village of Agdaban. Demonstration of the film will take place soon. According to 1news.az, the producer of the film Shakir Eminbeyli, the night of April 7-8, 1992, became a continuation of the Khojaly tragedy. The Armenian fascists burned down the village of Agdaban, 130 houses were completely burned. 779 peaceful villagers were tortured, 48 people died, including 8 old people aged 90-100 years, 2 young children, 7 women were burned alive, 2 people were missing, dozens of people were seriously injured. According to Eminbeyli, his Georgian colleagues broadcast hidden videos of the atrocities of Armenian vandals: “In these shots, Armenian militants openly express pride in the destruction of Azerbaijani children, women and old people in the village of Agdaban. Listening to these revelations, a person is horrified - how cruel people can be. ” Eminbeyli said that the decision to shoot the film was made immediately after receiving these video frames. “The idea of ​​the film belonged to the deputy Fazail Agamaly and we together with the famous film director Ramiz Fataliev decided to make a film. In a 48-minute tape, we interview eyewitnesses to the tragedy - the surviving villagers who told about all the horrors of that night. The film also contains the revelations of the famous American journalist Thomas Goltz, who at that time prepared reports from the war zone.

            The tragedy of the village of Agdaban cannot remain indifferent. Once again, it reveals the true face of Armenian nationalists, ”he said. Recall that on the night of April 7-8, 1992, Armenian armed forces under the direct leadership of the ex-president of Armenia Robert Kocharian, having occupied the Aghdaban hill and killed three sentries, attacked the village of the same name in the Kalbajar region of Azerbaijan, which has been practically surrounded by the Armenian army since 1988 . In the village, manuscripts of the great master of classical Azerbaijani poetry Ashug Kurban and his son Ashug Shamshir, having cultural and historical significance, were burnt, the native hearth of Shamshir was destroyed. Armed Armenian bandits in Agdaban shot innocent old people, babies, women, pulled out nails and skinned the severed heads of prisoners, gouged out their eyes from corpses, cut off their ears, and these crimes went down in history as one of the bloodiest events of the 9th century. Crimes against humanity committed in Agdaban, in accordance with the requirements of the UN General Assembly Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide of December 1948, XNUMX, must be condemned by the international community, and the perpetrators of the genocide must be punished
            1. dodil
              dodil April 16 2012 15: 43 New
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              Key phrase: "According to Eminbeyli, hidden videos of the atrocities of Armenian vandals were transmitted to him by Georgian colleagues."
              Are these the same Georgian colleagues who filmed reports from Tskhinval for the BBC with a hidden camera? )))
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 16 2012 15: 57 New
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            keywords * Voice of Armenia *, Shakhnazaryan, George Petrosyan, Armenian and * independent * sources, Cox * and I called the editor-in-chief *)))))))))))))))
            1. xasharat
              xasharat April 17 2012 23: 42 New
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              I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

              General rules on the site
              General rules of conduct on the site:


              To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

              Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

              On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

              Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

              Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

              Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

              We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

              Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

              The site is strictly prohibited:

              a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

              Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

              b) inciting ethnic hatred.

              When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

              The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
              This is for amateurs.

              Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
              There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

              THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

              God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

              Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

              TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

              Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
          3. xasharat
            xasharat April 17 2012 23: 43 New
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            I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

            General rules on the site
            General rules of conduct on the site:


            To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

            Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

            On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

            Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

            Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

            Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

            We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

            Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

            The site is strictly prohibited:

            a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

            Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

            b) inciting ethnic hatred.

            When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

            The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
            This is for amateurs.

            Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
            There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

            THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

            God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

            Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

            TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

            Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
        2. xasharat
          xasharat April 17 2012 23: 43 New
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          I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

          General rules on the site
          General rules of conduct on the site:


          To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

          Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

          On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

          Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

          Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

          Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

          We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

          Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

          The site is strictly prohibited:

          a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

          Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

          b) inciting ethnic hatred.

          When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

          The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
          This is for amateurs.

          Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
          There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

          THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

          God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

          Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

          TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

          Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
  • Yarbay
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    In 1988, tragic days began for the residents of the village of Garadaghly of the Khojavand region with the rebellion of the Armenian separatists in Nagorno-Karabakh. The villagers who came to the defense of their land lost 77 in battle with the Armenians - almost one in ten out of 800 inhabitants.

    This is what the chronicle of events in Garadaghly looked like: on November 24, 1990, three villagers were brutally killed by Armenian criminals on the 6th kilometer of the Khojavend-Khankendi road.

    In 1991, a UAZ car traveling to Garadaghly was fired upon by Armenians, one person was killed and four were injured. Subsequently, two of them died as a result of injuries.

    On March 8, 1991, two locals were brutally killed by Armenians near the village.

    On June 28 of the same year, on a farm 3 kilometers from the village, 6 people were burned alive - three men and three women.

    On September 8, 1991, on the 5th kilometer of the Khojavend-Khankendi road, a bus traveling from Agdam to Garadagh was fired upon by Armenians. Of the forty passengers on the bus, two young men and six women died.

    On January 8, 1992, another Azerbaijani was brutally killed near the village. The Armenians took with them 100 sheep as a trophy.

    The village of Khojavend captured on December 19, 1991 and on February 12, 1992, the village of Malybeyli was burned. The next goal of the Armenians was the village of Garadaghly.

    On February 14, 1992, Armenian bandits, with the help of the 366th regiment of the former Soviet Army, stationed in Khankendi, as well as foreign mercenaries, attacked the defenseless village of Garadaghly cut off from the rest of the world. The remaining 104 residents and 14 soldiers remaining in the village for 4 days, until the last bullet, repelled the attacks of the separatists. In those battles, 14 people were killed, including one woman. The survivors were captured.

    23 villagers were shot by Armenian executioners in the town of Beylik, bugs were not killed, and buried alive in a silo pit. Some of the prisoners were shot near the Armenian villages on the Garadaghly-Khankendi road in front of everyone. Two were killed at the source of Zyaka, two more - in the village of Dzhamiyat. Eight hostages were killed by Armenians after much torture and torment. Four more were killed on different days. The fate of the five villagers is still not known. 15 people from the prisoners in Khankendi and Askeran for more than 2 months 54 residents of the village died after being released as a result of torture and torture.

    Thus, on February 17, 1992, the village of Garadaghly, burned by the Armenians, virtually ceased to exist. 54 villagers and 12 out of 14 soldiers were brutally killed. Of those killed, 10 were women, 8 were children. Four families were killed in two families, 42 families lost a breadwinner, and about 140 children were left orphans. 200 houses, 1 house of culture, a high school building for 320 students, a hospital with 25 beds and other facilities were destroyed. About 800 residents of the village became internally displaced persons.

    For 19 years, the Garadaghlins have been living away from their native village - in a town in the Beylagan region, which was built for internally displaced persons from Khojavend. But they are looking forward to returning to their native lands.

    The massacre in Karadaghly according to eyewitnesses

    From the testimony of a resident of Garadaghly Karimov, Gara Huseyn oglu, who was in Armenian captivity in February-March 1992:
    - February 15, 1992 until the evening there was heavy shooting. We had few weapons, and help did not fit. At the defensive posts were killed and wounded. Military detachments from neighboring Armenian villages were constantly attacking us and burst into our village as soon as possible. Old Ziver did not want to leave the house, although she was left alone. She pulled a wedding ring from her chest and put on her finger, which she kept for her granddaughter Wafa, so as not to forget in the bustle. Then she left the house and headed to a neighboring yard, and at that moment the Armenians killed her, cut off her finger along with the ring. My son Aligismet and Kamal somehow brought and buried the body. On the night of that day, Nobile, Khanaly and Altai were also killed at the post. When night came, we went down to the Musa ravine past the control in order to safely go there and bring the bodies of the dead. With me were the villagers Arif, Demir, Tavar and Magomed Muallim. The bodies were all burnt to ashes. At night, we wanted to leave the village, waited a long time for the helicopter to send the dead, but help did not come.

    On February 16, at 5 a.m., we noticed a caravan of cars coming from the side of Zeka's spring. These were Armenian militants. A strong military group was moving toward us, and they were coming from neighboring Armenian villages. We lurked on the lower floor of the office, and my son Aligismet fired from the upper floor. Management began to shell from all sides, and Aligismet received a wound. Already on his deathbed, he began to cheer us up, ordered us not to give up and fight to the last.
    I had to leave from there. When we left, we could not believe our eyes - most of them were black, probably Syrians. I wanted to talk, but a Syrian woman in military uniform, pounds under 80-90, squeezed my neck with my hand and ordered me to be silent, or she would cut off my tongue. She spoke Russian. They tied our hands. Aligismet was still breathing. He was without legs, staring into my eyes. I wanted to come, they didn’t let me go. When I remember that minute, as if falling into hell.

    They were shooting there. It was as if all the dead were Armenians. In their hands they held a red poster. Then we were lined up. Old men, women and the wounded were loaded into one car, the young in others. When leaving the village at the old sanctuary they stopped; it was about 15. They shot Eldar and Shahmurad and threw the bodies onto the road. After 10-15 kilometers, they stopped at the poultry farm in the village of Dzhemiyet (Armenian village - author). The commander of those who drove us called the mail manager Gabib, searched him, found the weapon with which he shot him.

    One of the local Armenians asked Zahid. When he stepped forward, the commander shot him in a fit of anger. When we reached the bridge near the village of Malybeyli, they stopped and ordered us to get down to the ground. Then a car approached, in which the young people were taken, but there were few people left. I saw Abulfat and asked where the guys were, and he said that the guys were all killed. It turned out that after us the car with the young people was stopped in the “Beylik Garden” tract, and Armenian militants shot and shoot those who were in the car.
    They built us in a line and ordered to undress. They threw all our clothes off the road, and then took us on foot to Khankendi and placed us in the basement. At night we were very cold. Each was given a slice of bread; I didn’t get it. Everyone who asked for leave and went out was beaten. There we spent the night. On the morning of February 18, it was snowing heavily, and instead of water we ate snow. In the morning, five people were taken away somewhere. We were kept outdoors in the snow for 8-9 hours before being put in jail.
    On March 13, I, Ilgar and Nofel were exchanged for Armenians, and I was released. My cousin Shahlar brought us to his home. After the funeral in the Agdam mosque, I took the body of Aligismet’s son to the Uzundere tract and buried there. My dreams remained unfulfilled - the guy did not marry. He said, let the war end, and we'll see. He had a girlfriend, we bought a wedding dress and a ring ... like that.
    1. dodil
      dodil April 16 2012 15: 51 New
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      “On February 16, at 5 a.m., we noticed a caravan of cars coming from the side of Zeka’s spring. They were Armenian militants. A strong military group was moving towards us, they also came from neighboring Armenian villages. We hid on the lower floor of the department, and my son Aligismet fired from the top floor. The administration was fired on from all sides, and Aligismet got a wound. Already on his deathbed he began to cheer us up, ordered us not to give up and fight to the last.
      I had to leave from there. When we left, we could not believe our eyes - most of them were black, probably Syrians. I wanted to talk, but a Syrian woman in military uniform, pounds under 80-90, squeezed my neck with my hand and ordered me to be silent, or she would cut off my tongue. She spoke Russian. They tied our hands. Aligismet was still breathing. He was without legs, staring into my eyes. I wanted to come, they didn’t let me go. "
      You just "agony")))))))))))))))))))
      especially: “Aligismet got a wound” and “Aligismet was still breathing. He was without legs” - the Syrian sawed off his legs along the way))))))))))))
      1. xasharat
        xasharat April 17 2012 23: 42 New
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        I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

        General rules on the site
        General rules of conduct on the site:


        To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

        Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

        On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

        Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

        Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

        Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

        We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

        Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

        The site is strictly prohibited:

        a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

        Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

        b) inciting ethnic hatred.

        When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

        The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
        This is for amateurs.

        Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
        There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

        THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

        God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

        Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

        TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

        Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
      2. Vazgen one-eared
        Vazgen one-eared April 17 2012 23: 52 New
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        I want to consider one topic with everyone. Which made it clear to me that we Azerbaijanis are not friends not only in real life, but even in the virtual world. And so let's go.

        General rules on the site
        General rules of conduct on the site:


        To begin with, hundreds of people of different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full-fledged visitors to our site

        Sheer lies. If these views do not coincide with the views of radical Russians or those who use Russians for their own purposes, then they immediately put down the minuses, which affects the rating and then there is a restriction in messages. That is, they are culturally strangled. I am already silent about other factors, but more on that later.

        On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.

        Sheer lies. If the flag is not Russian already the views are changing.

        Insulting other visitors is considered one of the most serious violations and is strictly punished by the administration.

        Another lie. I will provide proof of my words later.

        We strictly forbid racism, statements that can offend the religious feelings of people of a different faith.

        Where did the admins go when they write in each post, we should save the Armenians, since they, like us, are Christians. Where did justice go?

        The site is strictly prohibited:

        a) a mat in any form (open and veiled), swear words; insulting an opponent;

        Again a hoax. Here they delete what I write in Azerbaijani, they say that this is a violation, and the posts of Armenians with MAT are not deleted. Plus, few people offend Azerbaijanis among Russians? Traders, do you know what kind of soldiers you are, and so on, and this is not an insult?

        b) inciting ethnic hatred.

        When the administration of this site wrote the rules, or they were stoned or under the influence of alcohol. Then every 3 is engaged in incitement. Remember the article about the padishah? This is a cultural incitement. Forgot? If such articles then think what posts will be.

        The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
        This is for amateurs.

        Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
        There is one Hadith Al Qudsi. There he says the time will come, O son of Adam, the truth will be in your tongue and not in your heart. How to respect you when you yourself do not respect your rules? For you, that our people, the government will not do, you are racists anyway. Speak a little about the Christian factor. Like we are traders and so on. Thank you tell us that we still do not touch the Russians. You are not grateful. My grandmother lost only 3 brothers near Leningrad, and for what? So that some uuuroroodyodyy insulted my nation. The creatures are not grateful. In Baku, because of this war, 4 oil fields were spoiled because it was not properly exploited. So much oil was sent to you for free, but your thanks became that we are traders and not warriors? Tfu on you.

        THE TRUTH DOES NOT DARE TO SAY ABOUT ALL RUSSIANS. Please forgive those who hurt my words. I speak and address, only to those who do not respect my nation, my people. Among the Russians there are quite a few honest and fair people, on such are the alliance and friendship between our peoples. I am addressing this to those who are like traders about us.

        God sees everything, are not afraid that he will return everything to you?

        Insulting administrators or moderators is also punishable by a ban - respect other people's work.

        TFU on the face of the fascists and Nazis. Delete posts of Azerbaijanis, and leave others? Is that your justice? Do not offend you? Yes you P-I-D-R-S!

        Now get me banned! I naaassssraaaat on you and on your site !!!
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay April 16 2012 15: 53 New
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    Testimonies of Shirinov Shamkhal Familet oglu captured by Armenians on February 17, 1992:
    - On February 13, 1992, the village of Garadaghly began to be fired from all sides. The situation was complicated, and the Armenians entered the village. With the support of the tanks and guns of the 366th motorized rifle regiment, they caused severe damage, but despite everything, the self-defense detachment of our village repulsed all the attacks of the Armenian invaders. On the evening of February 15, the Armenians seized the post at the cemetery at the entrance to the village, shot Zeynalov Mobil, Huseynov Hanaly and Hasanov Altai, who were standing at the post, and burned their bodies. After that, the rural self-defense unit strengthened in the administrative building of the department. At about 9 o’clock in the evening, ten of us soldiers of the self-defense detachment came to that post and took their charred bodies to the control building. Then they brought to the office the bodies of Huseynov Asker and Rustamova Siver, who were shot by the Armenians when they ran out of their homes.

    On that day, we had 5 people dead and 10 seriously wounded. On February 16, Armenian gangs completely surrounded the village, and the shooting took on an even more intense character. That day, Bayramov Arif Ibrahim oglu died. They shot him in the back of Eldar, the commander of a part of the national army. But, although the battles were becoming increasingly fierce, the situation was becoming increasingly difficult, the Armenians could not break the resistance of the village defenders. Realizing that the situation was difficult, the enemy pulled out additional forces, tanks and artillery from the city of Khankendi at about 4 a.m., and as soon as morning arrived, launched an attack with fresh forces. By about 12 o’clock it became clear that we were running out of weapons and ammunition, but there was no help from anywhere. Finally, our cartridges ran out, and Armenian gangs captured us. They seated the old and the young in different cars, and the elderly and 10 women were taken to Khankendi. A group of young people was taken on foot to Pir - this is such a place in the upper part of the village. There they brutally killed Huseynov Shahmurad and Dadashov Eldar right in the middle of the road. Then they loaded us onto KamAZ and drove us to a tract called the Beylik Garden. It was announced that ten people would be shot. At that moment, Tagiyev Telman blew up a grenade, which he hid on his chest, and heroically died, sending ten more Armenians to the other world. Enraged enemies opened fire on my fellow villagers standing on the ground, and on the car, as a result, 51 people were killed, and another 10 were seriously injured. Then we, the villagers who remained in the car, also went downstairs and started shouting, "kill us too."

    Then the commander of the Armenians, Manvel shot into the air and angrily shouted at his own people - “stop it!” We were again loaded into a car. One of the Armenian bandits got into the car and threw me on the corpses to kill. Another Armenian, standing at a distance, came up to me and kicked in the head, and then picked it up and threw it back into the car. I saw how Aliyev Khaliga, Huseynov Ibish and Huseynov Niftaly put the commander of the Armenian bandits Manvel in the personal car "06". Then we drove about three kilometers and stopped in a place called "Zeki spring", and here I did not see the guys in the "six" - most likely, they were also killed in the "Beylik Garden". Their corpses were thrown into a silo pit - among them were wounded - and were covered with earth from above. Then let's go again. After a while, near the village of Ningi, right in the middle of the road, I saw the body of Khalilov Zahid, he was killed brutally. Then they killed Huseynov Gabib with a shot in the head; his brother Novruz plunged the body into a car and drove him to Khankendi. When we arrived in Khankendi, the village of Malibeyli was completely engulfed in fire. We were dropped off on the road leading to Shusha, built in two columns and led to where the Armenian military were. There, they removed the remaining clothes from us and put them in water, and then placed them in the basement, where we spent a long time.

    While we were there, young people were often taken away and beaten. The next morning we were taken to Khankendi, dropped off the car, laid on the asphalt and began to torture. Then we were divided into 5-6 people and thrown into the cells. Thus began the most painful days for us. I was subjected to severe torture for 15 days without food or drink. There I saw elderly people in our village, including my father. After 15 days, we, 13 people, were taken to Martuni, where they beat us, forced us to work, and kept us starving. On March 21, we were taken to the village of Keshan in the Martuni district, where we would have been for 10 days, and on March 31 near the village of Marzili of the Agdam region we were released from captivity through the state. So I was held captive for 45 days. After my release in 1992, I volunteered for the front and for 4 years participated in battles in various sectors.

    Testimonies of a resident of the village of Garadaghly Aliyev Shahruz Amirkhan oglu captured by Armenian militants after the capture of the village:
    - On the day of the capture of Garadaghly, the Armenian militants, along with other villagers, captured me as well. In captivity, I suffered unbearable torment, lived days full of suffering. The bitterness of these sad days will never be erased from my soul. Among the prisoners were school-age children and 10 elderly women. On the way, the cars were stopped and mostly schoolchildren and young people were shot down barbarously. In the same way, we stopped in the place “Beylik Garden” and drove out of the car about 30 villagers, whom they shot there.
    Having driven a bit, we stopped again. In the same way, ten people were selected from the young and shot. One of the executed was my cousin Khalig Aliyev, as well as Iltizam Huseynov, their cries and moans all the time in my ears. We were all brought to Khankendi and thrown into the cold basement of the boarding school. They said that tomorrow they would take me to Askeran and exchange there, but we did not believe the promises of the Dashnaks. We spent the night in a cold as ice basement. I was captured with my brother. Early in the morning, the Dashnaks were taken from the basement under the guise of an exchange of five, and we heard nothing more about them. Among them would be my brother Watan. We were kept in the basement of the boarding school for 15 days. They gave a piece of stale bread and a glass of snow water. After spending 15 days in the dark basement of the boarding school, we were taken to the police station, where they also pushed us into a dark and cold basement. Then 13 people remained in the basement. Every day we suffered torment, daily Armenian militants with machine guns broke into the basement and brutally beat us. So I spent almost 60 days in captivity. He was released on April 9, 1992. Alas, my brother Vatan and many fellow villagers did not return from captivity.

    Testimonies of a resident of the village of Garadaghly Aliyev Oruj Maharram oglu captured by the Armenian armed forces:
    - When on February 17, 1992 our village was captured, I, along with others, was captured. I was separated from the rest of the villagers on the bridge near the village of Malybeyli. There were 10 of us women and three men. We were held there for one day and taken to Askeran. On the very first day, Aliyev Ilgar and Aliyev Umudvar were brutally beaten. We were placed in the cold basement of the Askeran prison, and here began for us days full of suffering. We were brutally beaten and tortured several times a day. Before the tragedy in Khojaly, these torment decreased somewhat. Once, Ilgar was told that if he didn’t pull out his beard on one cheek by morning, he would be shot. I helped him by blowing in his face. We knew that these fiends were capable of anything and would stop at nothing. Then Ilgar was separated from us and taken to Khankendi.

    Ten days later, the women were exchanged, Umudvar and I remained, and we were taken to the Armenian village of Noragah. There were already 18 people captured in Khojaly. One day, one of the Armenians came in and ordered everyone with golden teeth to come forward. And I had a golden tooth. He pulled out a tooth with pliers and calmly put it in his pocket. In that village we were often beaten with logs and stones. We were kept in the basement, in which water stood knee-deep. Several people from Khojaly, right before my eyes, died of hypothermia. There was one place, on the four sides of the wall, and open from above, and we were taken there to beat. I had to endure these torments for 39 days, that is, until the very liberation.


    For DODIL, look for keywords !!!!
    1. dodil
      dodil April 16 2012 15: 57 New
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      Where did the Syrians do? The most colorful part of the story.
      1. Azeri-Turk
        Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 16: 37 New
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        Quote: dodil
        Where did the Syrians do?

        You better think about where Russian love has gone. What did you think, you will lie, and your lies will ride? Pay attention how the Russian people wake up! We bring you to clean water. This is just the beginning.
        What did you think, your lies, your past, your crimes will get away with you?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 16 2012 16: 44 New
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          Received your letter! Answered)))
          1. Azeri-Turk
            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 16: 51 New
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            Quote: Yarbay
            Received your letter! Answered)))

            Today the floor of the Mossad’s headquarters is arriving in Baku. Until June 5, they will work in Azerbaijan. That Eurovision was held in all its glory without any emergency.
            If the Armenians were Adams, they would come like everyone else, they would stay in a fairy-tale city, let them now sit at their homes and watch through a TV set, if the light is not cut off from them of course.
            1. dodil
              dodil April 16 2012 16: 59 New
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              The semifinals of Eurovision 2012 will be held on May 22 and 24, the final on May 26
              What should they do before June 5th?
              Yes, and half the headquarters of the Mossad)
              1. Azeri-Turk
                Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 17: 02 New
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                Quote: dodil
                What should they do before June 5th?
                Yes, and half the headquarters of the Mossad)

                until 22 preparation ..... from 22 to 26 work ............... from 26 to 5 analysis and report.
                Clear?
                1. dodil
                  dodil April 16 2012 19: 33 New
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                  Isn't that the point?
                  09.04.12/5772/XNUMX, BAKU, AEN (Ilya Aronovich) - On the eve of Passover holiday XNUMX, the Ministry of National Security (MNS) of Azerbaijan conducted special operations to neutralize members in the cities of Baku, Ganja, Sumgait, as well as in the Gakh, Gusar, Zakatalsky and Sheki regions of the republic armed terrorist group.
                  According to official information distributed by the MNS, as a result of special operations, one member of the group was killed and 17 were arrested. Unfortunately, during the special operations, an employee of the Ministry of National Security died and three were injured. During the special operations conducted by the Ministry of National Security of Azerbaijan, assault rifles, pistols, a machine gun, hand grenades, remotely controlled explosives, a significant amount of plastid, communications equipment, and extremist literature promoting terrorism and the “war against infidels” were seized from Islamic terrorists.
                  According to the MNS for the Jewish News Agency, "the detained members of the terrorist group planned a series of provocative and terrorist acts aimed at violating socio-political stability and creating panic among the population of Azerbaijan."
                  MNS of Azerbaijan promises to inform further information about the special operations conducted by the Ministry of National Security later. Earlier, the Headquarters for Combating Terror, operating under the National Security Council of Israel, issued warnings about the threat of terrorist acts against Israeli citizens in Azerbaijan and the Jews of the republic’s diaspora during the Passover holiday of 5772.
                  Terrorist threats, according to the Headquarters, could come from agents of the Iranian special services in Azerbaijan, as well as cells of the Hezbollah terrorist organization.
                  And, as the events that happened in Azerbaijan on the eve of the Passover holiday showed, these warnings of the General Staff against Terror under the National Security Council of Israel had serious grounds.
            2. CCCP1980
              CCCP1980 April 16 2012 22: 58 New
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              Today the floor of the Mossad’s headquarters is arriving in Baku. Until June 5, they will work in Azerbaijan

              VI V KRUPNOM DERME bully
              1. Azeri-Turk
                Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 23: 26 New
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                VI V KRUPNOM DERME

                we? Considering what you are doing in Turkey, then believe me, you are not in units of shit but in full scale. Soon you will be raised from the seeds of Turkic peoples.
  • ward April 16 2012 16: 20 New
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    Strange things are happening in this world ... I rummaged around on the Internet and in fact, the Armenians are not so white and fluffy ... but rather the opposite ... with Karabakh in general it’s practically Kosovo ... one to one ... in general, it’s clear one thing ... if something is being done, then it is always at the expense of others ...
    1. Azeri-Turk
      Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 16: 28 New
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      Quote: ward
      Strange things are happening in this world ... I rummaged around on the Internet and in fact the Armenians are not so white and fluffy ...


      GLORY TO YOU LORD.
      I can’t believe my eyes. Not really one Russian man was found who wrote part of the truth.

      Ward, I’m ready to give you a thousand and a thousand information

      in YouTube, write in the search for ECHO sumgait and look 1-15 minutes. You will understand further.

      Then write the Armenians who served with Hitler.

      Then write the story of the people ... read about the Armenians.


      read not Azerbaijani, but specifically Russian sources so that later no one speaks.

      Then on YouTube write Armenian fascism in English and see what they did in Khojaly.

      And then write, Armenia before the events in Sumgait.

      What moves the Armenians.

      Read on for what the ears of the Armenians are read. For the betrayal of the well. They betray that well from where they drink water.

      And then write me, I’ll give you a new batch of information.
      1. core April 16 2012 16: 38 New
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        RELAX, not some Armenians are white and fluffy, a priori in conflicts of this type, there are no white and fluffy ones. all in the blood for the most indulge, that the Armenians, that Azerbaijan.
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          Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 16: 44 New
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          that the Armenians, that Azerbaijan.

          to compare Armenians and Azerbaijanis is equivalent to compare 8 == E with a finger.
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            CCCP1980 April 16 2012 22: 54 New
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            A 8 == ETO AZERI wassat
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          Yarbay April 16 2012 16: 48 New
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          If so, give at least one example of the abuse of civilians by the Azerbaijani army, but using independent sources
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            Azeri-Turk April 16 2012 16: 56 New
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            If so, give at least one example of the abuse of civilians by the Azerbaijani army, but using independent sources

            I am ready to give an example of harsh treatment towards Azerbaijanis.
            Here is a "thank you" to soldiers from the Soviet Union. Who did this were Russians and Armenians. In 1990, January 20. This is a brotherly attitude to the people of Azerbaijan.


            there are far from one or two such rows and not 10, but many more.
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            dodil April 16 2012 17: 37 New
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            Something you do not indicate your independent sources)
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              Yarbay April 16 2012 17: 49 New
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              Croix l'Eveneman magazine (Paris), March 25, 1992: Armenians attacked the Khojaly area. The whole world has witnessed disfigured corpses. Azerbaijanis talk about thousands of dead.

              Sunday Times newspaper (London), March 1, 1992: Armenian soldiers destroyed hundreds of families.
              Financial Times newspaper (London), March 9, 1992: Armenians shot a convoy of refugees leaving towards Agdam. Azerbaijanis counted about 1200 corpses "A cameraman from Lebanon confirmed that the rich Dashnak community of his country sends weapons and people to Karabakh.
              Times newspaper (London), March 4, 1992: Many were mutilated, and only one head was left of one little girl.
              Izvestia (Moscow), March 4, 1992: A video camera showed children with their ears cut off. One old woman had her face cut off. Men were scalped.
              Financial Times newspaper (London), March 14, 1992: General Polyakov stated that 103 Armenian soldiers from the 366th regiment remained in Nagorno-Karabakh.
              Newspaper Le Monde (Paris), March 14, 1992: Foreign journalists in Agdam, among the women and children killed in Khojaly, saw three scalps with their fingernails pulled out. This is not Azerbaijani propaganda, but reality.

              Izvestia (Moscow), March 13, 1992: Major Leonid Kravets: I myself saw about a hundred corpses on the hill. One boy did not have a head. Everywhere one could see the corpses of women, children, the elderly, those killed with particular cruelty.
              Valerie Actuel Magazine (Paris), March 14, 1992: In this autonomous region, Armenian military units, together with immigrants from the Middle East, own the most modern military equipment, including helicopters. ASALA owns military camps and arms depots in Syria and Lebanon. The Armenians destroyed the Azerbaijanis of Karabakh by massacre in more than a hundred Muslim villages.
              Journalist of the British television company Fant Man News R. Patrick, who visited the scene of the tragedy: The crime in Khojaly can not be justified in the eyes of the world community.
              1. dodil
                dodil April 16 2012 19: 43 New
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                Source http://rubsev.ru/2012/03/oleg-rusin-xodzhaly-i-srebrenica-istoricheskaya-pravda-

                protiv-virtualnyx-genocidov /
                Part 1.
                The Azerbaijani-Turkish version of the Khojaly genocide, circulated by the world media using the Baku petrodollars, states: “during the capture of this city in one night ... 613 civilians were killed with particular cruelty, including 63 children, 106 women, 70 old people.” However, Khojaly has never been a city. It was a village, which in 1990 was artificially turned into a city at the expense of Azerbaijani immigrants from distant areas and 465 Meskhetian Turks who fled from the Ferghana Valley. In addition, Khojaly was just stuffed with Grad and Alazan rocket and rocket launchers, armored vehicles and artillery, from which destructive shelling of Armenian settlements was carried out, including the NKR capital, Stepanakert. Two months before the assault, Azerbaijanis were invited by radio communication to withdraw civilians from the village. The Azerbaijani authorities partially fulfilled this proposal, having evacuated a number of Azerbaijani women, children, elderly, sick and livestock by helicopter, but then the decision to evacuate was sabotaged, soldiers and their families, adult men, and Meskhetian Turks remained in the city. According to entries in the diary of the Khojaly chief executive Elman Mammadov as of February 22, 1992, the population of Khojaly was 1.000 people [What are the diary entries of Elman Mammadov // karabah88.ru]. However, it is not clear whether Mammadov was included among the “1.000 people” of the Meskhetian Turks or not. What fate was destined for refugees from the Ferghana Valley, it becomes clear during the reconstruction of the “Khojaly events”:

                1st event: On the night of February 25-26, 1992, Armenian units, attacking from three directions (Mehdishen, Novy Nyuragyukh and Kyatuk) and leaving the northeast corridor open for civilians to exit, took Khojaly. Soldiers with part of the peaceful Khojaly people retreated along the humanitarian corridor. The remaining 700 people in the village (including 300 Meskhetian Turks), for various reasons, could not leave Khojaly, were transported to Stepanakert and on February 28, without any preconditions, transferred to the Azerbaijani side. In addition, on the day of the operation, 47 Armenian hostages were in Khojaly, of which only 13 were found after the assault, including 1 child and 6 women. The remaining 34 hostages and 165 Meskhetian Turks were taken away by Azerbaijanis retreating along the humanitarian corridor. Also, after the capture of Khojaly, Armenian troops found eleven corpses of civilians there (naturally, without taking into account the dead members of armed groups dressed in military uniforms). Judging by the characteristic wounds, they died during the shelling preceding the offensive.

                2nd event: The topographic map shows that there is only one road from Khojaly to Askeran, resembling a kind of tunnel and which is covered by 600-800-meter mountains on both sides. Trying to cross such mountains in winter and at night is tantamount to suicide, so the Khojaly residents traveled to Askeran along the humanitarian corridor. But it was near Askeran that it became clear that the fanatic-pan-Turkists did not strive for the liberation of the Khojaly, but for more blood on the way to the overthrow of Ayaz Mutalibov. The people of Abulfaz Elchibey, located in Agdam, told the refugees via a walkie-talkie that the Armenian village of Nakhichevanik was “recaptured from the militants” and ordered the refugees to go southeast. A small part of the Khojaly residents refused to obey this order, bypassed Askeran on the right and, walking along the humanitarian corridor (along the road along the Karkarchay river bed), safely reached Agdam. NFA soldiers drove the remaining refugees to Armenian positions between Shelley and Nakhichevanik.

                http://rubsev.ru/2012/03/oleg-rusin-xodzhaly-i-srebrenica-istoricheskaya-pravda-


                protiv-virtualnyx-genocidov /
                Part 2
                3rd event: Armenian militias confirm that a group of departing Khojaly residents unexpectedly turned towards Nakhichevanik and took the villagers defending the village by surprise. As a result of this attack, two were killed and 10 village defenders were injured. After the Azerbaijanis destroyed one of the Karabakh posts, the other posts opened machine-gun fire to defeat, not deciphering in the predawn dusk, who is who in the crowd approaching them, where the fire was also fired from. Units under the command of Shirin Mirzoyev and Yagub Rzayev [Who is responsible for Khojaly? // karabah88.ru] advanced to “help” Khojaly residents from Agdam. As a result of crossfire, part of the Khojaly people also died, and the Armenians managed to knock out two tanks, one of which was the son of Yagub Rzayev, Janpolad, who was posthumously awarded the title of “National Hero of Azerbaijan”. Subsequently, the Armenian side acknowledged that as a result of this confusion, a mixed civilian convoy was destroyed: “... the soldiers of the Azerbaijani national army decided to break through with the fighting, taking some of the inhabitants with them. According to the NKR law enforcement agencies, the death toll on the way from Khojaly to Agdam is 200 people, including about 40 soldiers of the Azerbaijani army. 100 NKR authorities are ready to exchange 5 captured Azerbaijani soldiers for Armenian hostages ”[Nezavisimaya Gazeta, March 1992, 1949]. This event cannot be recognized as a “war crime”. Firstly, part of the Khojaly residents died from “friendly fire”. Secondly, at the posts near the village of Nakhichevanik there were people who daily lost their relatives and friends during the shelling of Stepanakert and surrounding villages. Therefore, their actions can be regarded as blood feud. Thirdly, the Azerbaijani soldiers covered themselves with a “human shield”, which the Armenians were forced to destroy, realizing their right to self-defense. But the tactics of the “human shield” are prohibited by the Geneva Convention of XNUMX, and therefore the Azerbaijani side bears responsibility for the deaths of civilians near Nakhichevanik. Another fact is noteworthy: those people (Shirin Mirzoyev, Allahverdi Bagirov and Yagub Rzayev) who “rushed to the aid” of the Khojaly residents from Agdam subsequently died under mysterious circumstances.

                4th event: What happened to that group of refugees who managed to break through Shelley to Agdam? According to Czech journalist Dana Mazalova, who saw a genuine video of Chingiz Mustafayev on February 28, 1992, Azerbaijanis shot their Meskhetian Turks here and threw them to die. Then, various bodies were manipulated with the bodies of the Meskhetian Turks and the bodies of machine-gun victims between Nakhichevanik and Shelley to represent them as victims of “Armenian fascism”: barbed wire binding, point blank shots, knife wounds, crushing skulls with ax blows, scalping, gouging eyes cutting off fingers and ears, etc. Part of the corpses were taken to Agdam by truck and helicopters. Perhaps it was then that 34 Armenian hostages (women and children), taken away from Khojaly, were killed. As George Deev wrote about this, “it is obvious that those who wanted to create the appearance of desecration of corpses by Armenians disfigured, first of all, precisely the bodies of the Armenian hostages so that they could not be identified. For this purpose, the outer clothing was removed from many corpses, and it was for this reason that the bodies