The United States remembered the program of "Star Wars" to defeat Russia and China

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The United States intends to spend billions of dollars on preparations for a war in space with Russia and China. This was stated by the head of the Pentagon, James Mattis, reports the publication Express.

The United States remembered the program of "Star Wars" to defeat Russia and China




Our competitive advantages in all areas of warfare — in the air, on land and sea, in space and cyberspace — are being lost. We will modernize our equipment, recognizing that we cannot expect success in the struggle in tomorrow’s conflicts with yesterday’s weapons
- Said the US Secretary of Defense.

According to Mattis, the main field of the future war will be in space. While there is no question that the satellites will destroy each other. However, it is with their help that one can observe both the weather and the flights of enemy aircraft.

The head of the Pentagon expressed confidence that in space, the United States will be able to do everything to contain Russia and China. At the same time, he noted that the world needs special agreements on the control of armaments in space, reports Lenta.ru.
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  1. +11
    27 January 2018 12: 34
    Remember for blackmail. But I’m sure that something like that already exists both with us and with us. Hope not from China ...
    1. +5
      27 January 2018 12: 38
      Pentagon chief James Mattis said

      "Mad Dog" has seen enough of the night of D. Lucas films.
      1. +13
        27 January 2018 12: 41
        And what a good epic. Darth Putinus is building a death star bully
        1. +9
          27 January 2018 13: 12
          Quote: Anarchist
          Darth Putinus is building a death star

          Odd you didn’t turn back to Darth Putinus, but Darth Democrader-Libereider wants to keep the death star from being destroyed.
          1. +3
            27 January 2018 13: 47
            Quote: Anarchist
            And what a good epic. Darth Putinus is building a death star bully


            Is that what the head of the US Department of Defense is already called ????

            feel
            1. +7
              27 January 2018 14: 17
              I don’t know, comrades, in this epic the Jedi act as troublemakers! Darth Sidious, in the first episodes, destroyed liberal democracy by creating an Empire! Which he headed ...
              At least I see it that way!
        2. +4
          27 January 2018 13: 20
          Quote: Anarchist
          And what a good epic. Darth Putinus is building a death star bully


          Darth Alcohol seems to have hit your brain)
          1. +5
            27 January 2018 17: 09
            Quote: Geisenberg
            Quote: Anarchist
            And what a good epic. Darth Putinus is building a death star bully


            Darth Alcohol seems to have hit your brain)

            Do not judge by yourself! I don’t drink at all ... No, not sick! I don’t want to be like you!
        3. +1
          28 January 2018 10: 49
          Quote: Anarchist
          And what a good epic. Darth Putinus is building a death star

          You know - given the foreign policy of impudent robbery of pin.do.sov, their "homosexual values" advertised around the world, their incredible cruelty and infamy in warriors for the sake of profit - the death star is built by "Darth Trumpus", and our "master Obivan ke - Putin "remains the leader of one of the few countries surrounded by the homosexual immoral mordor, of which the so-called "Western world."
      2. +1
        27 January 2018 14: 17
        They are trying again to draw into the arms race, acting according to the pattern.
        1. +7
          27 January 2018 14: 36
          Then Trump should be called Ronald Reagan, but only mini.
          1. +2
            28 January 2018 01: 52
            Ronald donald laughing
    2. +4
      27 January 2018 12: 39
      They remembered about the Reagan SDI, which they themselves recognized as a scam for divorcing the USSR for big money. Now they will breed and bend on the loot of the United States and Europe?
      1. +6
        27 January 2018 13: 01
        Well, we now have a vaccine against this crap, and the mattresses decided to go into the same river a second time, which no one has ever succeeded in life.
        1. +2
          27 January 2018 13: 29
          Quote: Giant thought
          Well, we now have a vaccine against this crap, and the mattresses decided to go into the same river a second time, which no one has ever succeeded in life.

          Hello Peter, have you come out of suspended animation again? Are slogans sprinkled to help Mikhan now?
    3. 264
      +5
      27 January 2018 12: 39
      good
      But pretend! This look
      Everything can express so wonderful!
      Ah, it's not difficult to deceive me! ..
      I'm happy to deceive myself!
      "Our competitive advantages in all areas of warfare - in the air, on land and the sea, in space and cyberspace - are lost"
      hi
      1. +3
        27 January 2018 12: 44
        Ah, easy scammer ... You probably enjoy your provocative disguise yourself
        1. +7
          28 January 2018 12: 33
          Who is where, and horned animals in the garden for cabbage.
    4. +7
      27 January 2018 12: 40
      yeah, let the goat into the garden_ "control of weapons in space"! need control to prevent weapons in space.
      1. +4
        27 January 2018 12: 49
        Hi Garik! hi unfortunately, it is already there.
        1. +4
          27 January 2018 12: 52
          it's mine! it's time to activate our satellites “researchers." Victor, welcome.
          1. +4
            27 January 2018 12: 57
            Recently, one was activated, and the United States considered it garbage and thought about it. lol
            1. +2
              27 January 2018 13: 00
              Yes Yes. I remember their reaction.
              1. +2
                27 January 2018 13: 15
                It is worth noting that one of the American highly maneuverable spaceships - the automatic mini-shuttle X-37B returned to Earth in early May 2017 after 718 days spent in low Earth orbit, which is a record for vehicles of this type.

                The Air Force, which operates two X-37Bs, has always insisted that maneuverable mini-shuttles are exclusively experimental spacecraft, but refused to discuss the objectives of their missions. Just like Russians, with their patient, agile Cosmos companions.


                This is a little butt, everything is ahead.
        2. +4
          27 January 2018 13: 43
          And a lot .....
          Salute, Slavs!
          1. +2
            27 January 2018 13: 45
            Hi Kostya! hi
            what a bully you are, you cannot place weapons in space. lol
            1. 0
              27 January 2018 15: 16
              You can’t only post weapons of mass destruction, everything else can be
      2. +7
        27 January 2018 14: 39
        Quote: newbie
        need control to prevent weapons in space.

        The United States does not sign it. request
    5. +7
      27 January 2018 12: 46
      The satellite inspector was launched in the summer of 2017. It supposedly outperformed the competitors, and could do a lot of things.
    6. +3
      27 January 2018 12: 52
      Not for blackmail, but in order to promote Russia for expenses inconceivable in size, knowing the ambitions, appetites and fantasies of the Russian cosmos.
      1. +2
        27 January 2018 13: 27
        Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
        Not for blackmail, but in order to promote Russia for expenses inconceivable in size, knowing the ambitions, appetites and fantasies of the Russian cosmos.

        Russia's ambitions may be limited to launching satellite inspectors with beam weapons on board, to carry out roll call in near space and to define “friend or foe” ... wassat
    7. +2
      27 January 2018 13: 18
      Quote: Anarchist
      Remember for blackmail. But I’m sure that something like that already exists both with us and with us. Hope not from China ...


      China has something worse. For example, 1.4 billion people are just registered people.
      1. +5
        28 January 2018 04: 19
        Quote: Geisenberg
        China has something worse. For example, 1.4 billion people are just registered people.

        Each will throw one hat - they will throw anyone with hats ... laughing
    8. +2
      27 January 2018 13: 19
      "" Remember for blackmail .. "
      We got the old rotten "FISH".
    9. KCA
      +2
      27 January 2018 15: 09
      It seems that the IS-1 with a recoilless gun was successfully tested in space, and Almaz was planned to arm, probably ready or partially ready fighters and an orbital station are somewhere in the bins of the Motherland, and it’s not so much to create new products based on old designs difficult task
  2. +2
    27 January 2018 12: 35
    I hope ours will not behave like last time.
    1. 0
      27 January 2018 13: 14
      Quote: alkor
      I hope ours will not behave like last time.

      Everything is already there. S-500 satellites will surely be blackmailing in near and far space. S-600 is just around the corner. )))
      1. jjj
        +3
        27 January 2018 14: 07
        In Soviet times, ours cooled the fervor of the overseas by proving to them the possibility of putting "wagons with nails" into orbit at the required points in the near-Earth space. At break, all space objects located in these orbits are destroyed. Cheap and cheerful. And we still have analog communication and television towers were not allowed to scrap
        1. 0
          27 January 2018 14: 31
          Quote: jjj
          Cheap and cheerful.

          So it is true, but the last time the Americans tested such weapons with metal balls in orbit, half of the near-Earth space was dirtied with their garbage.
        2. 0
          27 January 2018 15: 17
          It doesn’t work, the car will create too low a particle density
    2. +1
      27 January 2018 17: 32
      Quote: alkor
      I hope ours will not behave like last time

      and last time seduced? what SOI nearly ruined the Yankees themselves
  3. +6
    27 January 2018 12: 37
    The United States intends to spend billions of dollars preparing for a space war with Russia and China.

    It seems that all the same, Status-6 will be implemented. And let mattresses continue to be spent on their SOI.
    1. +7
      27 January 2018 12: 43
      It seems that all the same, Status-6 will be implemented.
      And I would not be so sure of the absence of such devices in strategically important and vulnerable points around the US coast
      1. +6
        27 January 2018 12: 56
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        And I would not be so sure of the absence of such devices in strategically important and vulnerable points around the US coast

        You are very mediocre acquainted with the very idea of ​​Status-6. One of its main highlights is that it is very effective against states such as the USA, CHINA, INDIA, and European countries, and is ineffective against the Russian Federation. Why? Yes, because industrial infrastructure and cities, for the most part, are not on the coast, but in the depths of the continent, in contrast to the above countries.
        1. +9
          27 January 2018 13: 09
          Did I say something contrary to this concept? I suggest that deep-sea mines with powerful nuclear mines may well be located off the coast of the United States. There are, in principle, no obstacles to their manufacture, delivery, or issuing an activation order. Their long-term and safe operation at installation sites and guaranteed failure without a command raises questions. And so yes - the most effective use case is to detonate near densely populated coastal zones or natural anomalies like the California tectonic fault. It’s a pity you won’t put it into the Great Lakes. Though... smile hi
          1. +4
            27 January 2018 13: 15
            Quote: KVU-NSVD
            Their long-term and safe operation at the installation sites is guaranteed by a guaranteed failure without a command.

            Well, long-term operation at the point of probable undermining is not necessary ... everything can be done in rotation mode. One drone stood for three months, another came in its place, and this one went to the base for inspection. Everything is simple. At the same time, any of our submarines and even surface ships can be equipped with such drones-missiles.
            1. +5
              27 January 2018 13: 27
              We just probably misunderstood each other. I believe that Status is only the development of a long-standing idea about the early delivery of the Last Argument to the United States in the form of bookmarks off the coast. Underwater drone with poison. charge and almost unlimited progress - this is in the spirit of time, technology and is suitable for operational "change of victim." I just wanted to express doubt that the idea in the original version was not put into practice feel wink
              1. 0
                28 January 2018 06: 27
                Quote: KVU-NSVD
                We just probably misunderstood each other. I believe that Status is only the development of a long-standing idea about the early delivery of the Last Argument to the United States in the form of bookmarks off the coast. Underwater drone with poison. charge and almost unlimited progress - this is in the spirit of time, technology and is suitable for operational "change of victim." I just wanted to express doubt that the idea in the original version was not put into practice feel wink

                this may justify a US preventive strike against Russia, remember the Caribbean Crisis, and it will be even worse. It is unlikely that they will go for it, they in the Duma not only eat in the head but think to her ...
    2. +2
      27 January 2018 12: 55
      Quote: NEXUS
      It seems all the same Status-6

      This is the same as the SOI ...))
      1. +9
        27 January 2018 13: 05
        Quote: Burbon
        This is the same as the SOI ...))

        No, from the word at all. SDI is not financially and technologically up-to-date and now, unlike the budgetary Status-6. Developing a rocket torpedo for a submarine is much cheaper than putting satellites into orbit or developing an ICBM that needs to pass missile defense and fly over wild distances. often stands in a mine, whose location the adversary knows. Now try to detect and intercept the drone torpedo at a depth of a kilometer. And at such depths and missile defense can not be built.
        1. +1
          27 January 2018 13: 13
          Quote: NEXUS
          Develop a missile torpedo for submarines is much cheaper

          it’s not the price, but the real inevitable answer ... and a 600kg rocket (NFC) launched from a satellite - there is 100% hit on the target than the movement of the drone under water at great depths and very great distances, while the unknown may be stationary number of years and at the same time stay in work (wait for hour X) + where does it get? Just an explosion in the hope of infecting everyone with radiation and creating a tsunami? ... there are few guarantees ....
          1. +8
            27 January 2018 13: 25
            Quote: Burbon
            it’s not the price, but the real inevitable answer ... and 600kg rocket (NFC) launched from the satellite - there is a 100% hit on target

            As well as the fact that this medium can be intercepted, shot down ...
            And try to intercept, or at least detect a torpedo drone at such depths.
            Quote: Burbon
            at the same time, an unknown number of years may be stationary

            So you don’t take into account rotation at all? It came to its place, on duty for three months or half a year, and to the base for inspection and possible repairs, modernization, and another drone comes in its place. What’s the problem then? And with such drones you can stick around the entire coast of the United States and England relatively cheaply, and not build a Death Star, throwing trillions of dollars.
            1. 0
              27 January 2018 13: 33
              Quote: NEXUS
              As well as the fact that this medium can be intercepted, shot down ...

              how? wassat how can one detect and, moreover, intercept a missile launched not from the ground, but from a distant orbit ??? especially since it has a 2-3 max speed, the flight is almost vertical, carries false targets and maneuvers at the same time?
              1. +5
                27 January 2018 13: 36
                Quote: Burbon
                how can one detect and, moreover, intercept a missile launched not from the ground, but from a distant orbit ???

                I'm not talking about a rocket, but about a CARRIER!
                Quote: Burbon
                especially since it has 2-3 Mach speed, the flight is almost vertical, carries false targets and maneuvers at the same time?

                This was answered back in the Union ... The Amur missile defense (A-135) does not shoot down each BG separately, it begins with an AT and detonation occurs in space, forming an extensive zone covering the area of ​​movement of the BG swarm.
              2. +6
                27 January 2018 13: 47
                Quote: Burbon
                as? how can one detect and, moreover, intercept a missile launched not from the ground, but from a distant orbit ???

                For this, a very expensive, and very "big-eyed" DON-2M radar was created, which sees objects the size of a tennis ball.
                And about intercepting ... 2 Mach speak? wassat A-135 (AMUR) accelerates to 5km / s! and carry ID in 10 ct. An explosion in space, on the flight path of the BG of the adversary, covering an area of ​​80 km.
                1. 0
                  28 January 2018 06: 29
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  For this, a very expensive, and very "big-eyed" DON-2M radar was created, which sees objects the size of a tennis ball.

                  she sees then she can and sees, only she can’t direct anything and there are no such interceptors.
    3. 0
      27 January 2018 13: 36


      "" "" Federation strikes back !!!
      “Federation” is a reusable manned spacecraft, which should replace the manned spacecraft of the Soyuz series and the automatic cargo spacecraft of the Progress series. Produced by RSC Energia named after S. P. Korolyov "
      OKR code: “PPT K” “Creation of a manned transport ship of a new generation”
      Code of the OCD component: “ППТК” (Ж И -1) Federal Space Program of Russia for 2016 - 2025
      Flight tests (LKI-1) PTK: - unmanned flight of the PTK at the OIZZ in 2021; - unmanned flight of the PTK with the docking of the ISS vehicle in 2023;
      - manned spacecraft flight with docking to the ISS in 2023.
      KPTK should provide:
      - launches of manned transport ships to near-earth and near-moon orbits;
      - rescue of the crew in emergency situations at the launch complex, on the rocket active flight stage, at the stage of descent in the atmosphere and landing; - training of personnel to carry out work with flight products and ground processing equipment, including the preparation of launches of KGCh.
      The space warhead must be unified for flights to near-moon and near-earth orbits.
      The manned transport ship PTK is designed to deliver the crew and payload to near-moon or near-Earth orbits and their subsequent return to Earth.
      During the flight, a manned ship must provide:
      - flight from near-Earth orbit to near-moon orbit using means of inter-orbital transportation;
      - rapprochement and docking on a near-moon (near-earth) orbit with elements of the orbital lunar (near-earth) infrastructure;
      - functioning as a part of near-Earth orbital or near
      lunar orbital infrastructure;
      - flight along the circumlunar / near-earth orbit in manned and unmanned modes;
      - transition from the circumlunar orbit to the flight trajectory to the Earth;
      - submersion of DOs in a given area of ​​the World Ocean;
      - descent VA, a full-time landing VA. ensuring the safety of the crew’s health, the accuracy of the landing, as well as the suitability of the VA for further use.

      When flying to the Moon, the following ratio of the number of crew, the duration of the autonomous flight of the PTK and the mass of the payload should be fulfilled:
      - crew size - at least 4 people;
      - the mass of the delivered / returned cargo is not less than 100 kg;
      - the duration of the autonomous flight to the Moon, the flight through the OISL and return to Earth - at least 30 days;
      - the duration of the flight as part of the element of the lunar orbital infrastructure, taking into account the provision of PTC means of the element of the lunar orbital infrastructure in terms of LSS, SES, SOTR, etc. - at least 180 days with a total flight duration of at least 190 days.

      When flying in low Earth orbit, the following ratio of the number of crew, the duration of the autonomous flight of the PTK and the mass of the payload should be fulfilled:
      - crew full-time - 4 person (must be provided with the possibility of placing for the descent no more than 6 people);
      - weight: of the delivered / returned cargo - not less than 500 kg;
      - the duration of the autonomous flight of the PTK in near-earth orbit:
      1) when servicing the EZOI - at least 3 days;
      2) when performing targeted flights with a crew of 4 people - at least 14 days; 3) when performing targeted flights with a crew of at least 2 people, at least 30 days;
      - the duration of the flight as part of an element of the near-Earth orbital infrastructure, taking into account the provision of PTC with the means of the element of the near-Earth orbital infrastructure in terms of SJO, SES, SOTR, etc. - at least 365 days. ""

      Then the Yankees squirmed ..
      1. +1
        27 January 2018 19: 44
        "Federation" (PTK NP) - utter stupidity imposed by politicians who forced designers to conceptually copy American absurd barrels (artificially inflated so that in response to - "are they better than a union?" Joyfully reply: 6-7 people fit in - we are not wasting it in vain taxpayer money !!!).
        That is, the same rake when the Kremlin elders forced to copy the shuttle.
        1. 0
          27 January 2018 20: 23
          In view of the fact that the KK Federation is the fruit of a political order,
          he is very unsuccessful in layout and concept,
          and here we have to rejoice about the delays in its implementation
          and hope that it will never be created.
          For flights to the moon and into orbit of the earth,
          it is quite enough Unions, or a new ship repeating at a new technical level its concept.
          Although I believe there’s nothing to do in orbit
          - you must fly immediately to the moon and make a permanent base there.
          As soon as the power of compradors and prostitutes changes,
          we will have a second Korolev who
          will make Russia the undisputed leader in space exploration,
          which will pull the development of our entire country.
  4. +2
    27 January 2018 12: 46
    We have already passed this, and the second time we’ll not get on this one!
    1. +5
      27 January 2018 12: 54
      Quote: Herkulesich
      We have already passed this, and the second time we’ll not get on this one!

      laughing So I immediately remembered the famous SOI, the Americans clearly are holding us for savages !!!!
  5. +9
    27 January 2018 12: 58
    along the way, the fifth banknote printing machine was installed ... no further than yesterday Trump cried that the United States lost $ 7 trillion in military operations in the Middle East ... winkAnd then into space! how much will they lose? recourse nude, nude ...
  6. 0
    27 January 2018 13: 06
    In the 70-80s of the last century, the SOI was booming with the Americans, apparently decided to step on the same rake! am
    If anything, we have long been able to destroy satellites from orbit, so that the Yankers have already lost the war without ever starting! lol
  7. DPN
    0
    27 January 2018 13: 14
    Yes, just chatter all this, even at school they said that there would be enough nuclear stockpiles to destroy all life on the planet more than 6 times. So it’s only worth saying that they take fire on themselves and neither the United States and in general everything disappears. And after US fools, after millennia, LIFE will again be reborn on Mother EARTH.
    1. 0
      27 January 2018 17: 00
      It can be seen a long time ago you graduated from school. 40 at the end of the 000s and 80 for today are two big differences, as they say in one Russian city. Obviously not enough to destroy the Earth even 1500 time.
  8. +1
    27 January 2018 13: 19
    Quote: alkor
    I hope ours will not behave like last time.

    The fact is that they covered up the program not only because it was expensive, but because the USSR could respond in a similar way! And this time they can do it. Previously, Korolev’s students and associates worked there, now Rogozin and his “managers.” We’ve been flying on the Soviet legacy for 30 years. We’ve launched underwater satellites. I have pulled technology up in the USA. And they will print money, and we will buy the world (including us). sad hi
  9. +1
    27 January 2018 13: 27
    Not bad news: “The United States intends to spend billions of dollars preparing for a war in space” - The fantastic illusions of the United States will require fantastic, unlimited costs that machine mechanisms that print green paper will not be able to withstand, and if they do, they will face cellulose deficiency or deficient in green paint. Russia, in this dollar boom, can strengthen its financial position due to foreign exchange earnings in the form of gold from imports: wood knots, wood chips, wood shavings and brilliant green for issuing US paper currency.
    1. 0
      27 January 2018 14: 20
      "face cellulose deficiency or green paint deficiency"
      The shortage of terabytes has long ceased to exist, which is what the proper use of software * is, paint and pulp are no longer needed, they were replaced with 0 and 1, most payments are made by transferring information from a computer to a computer. The computer age for bankers is not a plowed field.
  10. +3
    27 January 2018 13: 29
    This is a turn ... Will the satellites and equipment also be put into orbit themselves? And will they launch a new program, or are they going to build on a non-viable basis? And the debt doesn’t shake their pocket, or do they want to get a loan from whom? Again they will spend another lard, and then they will shrug their hands? Well done in short, optimists for life))
  11. 0
    27 January 2018 13: 34
    Here he is the son of Kuzkin’s mother!

    According to Western foreign intelligence, in 2016 the Status passed tests confirming its calculated characteristics. ("World Review").
    As the saying goes - "For what I bought, for what I sold." Yes
  12. +1
    27 January 2018 13: 34
    What is characteristic ... our budget money is sawing ... a kindergarten for a walk compared to those in the US ... and I am calm for our safety ... they all ... I repeat, they steal and steal everything ...
  13. +2
    27 January 2018 13: 36
    In plain text --- "... we cannot expect success in the fight in tomorrow’s conflicts with yesterday’s weapons" --- that’s the whole point. To upgrade weapons, you need minds and time, what is their problem. And in space, "hegemony", not only Russia will not allow them.
  14. +1
    27 January 2018 13: 49
    Another blah blah blah. Today there are no breakthrough technologies that the United States can turn into a miracle weapon. All these pitiful attempts and jumps of Mattis. If we resume the USSR's Star Wars program, the United States will weep in complete impotence. Especially when space barrels with beam weapons and titanium crowbars will fly in orbit. which with their kinetic energy will smash the United States into the trash. Well, or a group of satellites that can turn off, or rather turn into enemy space satellites space debris.
    1. +1
      27 January 2018 19: 46
      Quote: Altona
      Another blah blah blah.

      The most interesting thing in the article is the picture. Yes There seems to be someone feel eats Germany. laughing
  15. +2
    27 January 2018 13: 51
    How does it fit together:
    "The United States intends to spend billions of dollars to prepare for a space war with Russia and China. Pentagon chief James Mattis said this, Express said."
    и
    "At the same time, he noted that the world needs special agreements on arms control in outer space?" what
    ps And the photo with the laser test was only hurried up for 200-300 years and we will not see it.
  16. 0
    27 January 2018 14: 02
    So the time has come to lift 60 tons of nails into space. One explosion of such a bomb is enough to rub all the satellites into sawdust. Although it is not clear how this news can be correlated with the US budget’s attempt to cut some defense items to save money
  17. +2
    27 January 2018 14: 04
    Their death stars besides Russia and China are not in orbit.
  18. 0
    27 January 2018 14: 36
    So far, there is no talk of satellites destroying each other. However, it is with their help that one can observe both the weather and the flights of enemy aircraft.

    Sitting high, looking far away?
    But is now beyond the horizon radars and the existing constellation of satellites does not do the same? Or lack of detail?
  19. 0
    27 January 2018 14: 48
    Did the mad dog go to the movies again, go to Star Wars, smoke in the hall and get inspired?
  20. 0
    27 January 2018 15: 00
    Do not interfere, but in every way support! Go broke earlier !!! In the 80-ies, the farther Politburo scared and entered the arms race - it ended badly. And even then, the USA could collapse into 50 of individual states, due to a collapsed economy ...
  21. 0
    27 January 2018 15: 05
    The satellite in the picture to Germany is piu-piu)))
  22. 0
    27 January 2018 18: 18
    Well, what did I tell you ?!
  23. 0
    27 January 2018 18: 27
    That's all the prerequisites for the militarization of outer space, and how sweetly they sang promising not to launch combat systems into space, but for some reason they refused to sign an agreement to ban the launch of b / c in space! Global liars are all these "crap partners"!
  24. +2
    27 January 2018 19: 06
    Representatives of Wall Street: everything is lost, everything is lost hegemony is floating out of your hands ... The Pentagon has all hope for you.
    The Pentagon through the mouth of Mattis: what can I say, things are bad ... we need dibs ... a lot of dibs, Trump and Trump said 7 trillion in BV and that turned out to be small. In short, we need grandmothers, grandmothers, a lot of grandmothers, even more ... The Wall Street will not lose you ... otherwise everything is tryndets. Yes
    Well, what does Wall Street hip do? request
  25. +1
    27 January 2018 19: 22


    In case of war, all this will fly in the form of space debris.
  26. +1
    28 January 2018 12: 50
    Quote: KCA
    It seems that the IS-1 with a recoilless gun was successfully tested in space, and Almaz was planned to arm, probably ready or partially ready fighters and an orbital station are somewhere in the bins of the Motherland, and it’s not so much to create new products based on old designs difficult task

    1. The IS has never had a recoilless gun. Only a charge of explosives. Radius of defeat up to 1 km in front and up to 400 meters in the opposite direction
    2. "Diamond", aka "Salyut-3" was armed with a recoilless gun Nudelman as part of the defense complex "Shield-1". They planned to install the Shield-2 defense system at subsequent ones, but they did not install it on Salyut-5
    3. Ready or partially finished fighters of the 80s? are in the bins? And who, sorry, need this trash now? The pattern of using "satellite fighters" is changing. Now this is not a banal charge of explosives that destroyed everyone, both their own and others, but more subtle tools, quite possibly working on other physical principles.
    4. Orbital stations in the bins? Well, two unfinished “Diamonds”, about 5 years old, seemed to be still there, ours even suggested using them as tourist complexes for flying around the moon (together with the Americans). And so, a long time ago there are already no ready
    5. To create on the basis of old developments is now a much more difficult task than if we would create them 20 years ago. Why - think for yourself.

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    Quote: alkor
    I hope ours will not behave like last time.

    Everything is already there. S-500 satellites will surely be blackmailing in near and far space. S-600 is just around the corner. )))

    At the NOU - it’s possible. In the far - the probability is zero. Is the S-600 just around the corner? Quite possible. And the S-700 and S-800 are just around the corner. The only question is, how many decades are there before these mountains?

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    Yes, because industrial infrastructure and cities, for the most part, are not off the coast, but in the depths of the continent, in contrast to the above countries.

    And they probably only along the coast? Is Chicago and all its conglomeration probably located on the shores of the Atlantic Ocean?
    And take our facilities, especially shipbuilding. The Baltic and Admiralty factories in Leningrad are probably located exclusively in the depths of the mainland? Severomorsk and Severodvinsk probably too? And Sevastopol, Novorossiysk, Nakhodka, Vladivostok? Also deep in the mainland?
    Yes, industrial infrastructure, such as the Ural factories in our country, is indeed deep in the mainland. But they, too, are not on the coast.

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    Did I say something contrary to this concept? I suggest that deep-sea mines with powerful nuclear mines may well be located off the coast of the United States. There are, in principle, no obstacles to their manufacture, delivery, or issuing an activation order. Their long-term and safe operation at installation sites and guaranteed failure without a command raises questions. And so yes - the most effective use case is to detonate near densely populated coastal zones or natural anomalies like the California tectonic fault. It’s a pity you won’t put it into the Great Lakes. Though... smile hi

    Well, if they are there, then one simple question. How are you going to carry out the regulation of nuclear charges?
    Delivery barriers? Well, let's say such a question. Any inertial guidance system has an accumulation of error. Moreover, this accumulation is continuous. In an hour of running such a "Status" deviates by X kilometers. For more than 2 days of running, this error can result in XXXX kilometers. How will you carry out the correction? Further, this unit, the "Status" which has a diameter of 1,6 meters. Will there be a HOOK in the bow? What is this hack capable of? Track the distance to obstacles in all planes? And at what distance, if modern submarines sometimes have the entire bow, is a hull capable of seeing tens of kilometers, or even less? How will the "autopilot" work? After all, the speed of this "Status" under 200 km per hour. I’m not saying that he will rumble at the same time on the coast. How, how will the management system be built? Well, the main unit of guidance and control devices will be located between two cute little things. 100 megaton charge and reactor? Do you think that one and the other will not fonit? And there is something protection not observed
    Now about guaranteed triggering "on command." Will it be a timer? Or something else? Or are you going to give a command to undermine an object lying at the bottom, at a depth of several hundred meters by conventional radio communications? Or will you transmit the team on extra-long waves for several hours? What if "Status" will accept him. which should not explode at this time ??? Is it under its own carrier boat?

    Undermining the tectonic fault is really a thing. But for a change, take an interest in materials, preferably the 70s, why countries such as the USSR and the USA stopped developing tectonic weapons. You will be pleasantly surprised ...
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      29 January 2018 16: 56
      Quote: Old26
      And they probably only along the coast?

      For the most part ... at the same time, you do not take into account the area of ​​states, as well as population density.
      Quote: Old26
      The Baltic and Admiralty factories in Leningrad are probably located exclusively in the depths of the mainland?

      Yeah ... who are almost next to European territory, where everything is close. Go, tear it, and I'll see what comes back to Europe.
      Quote: Old26
      Severomorsk and Severodvinsk probably too?

      Pass SF still need ...
      Quote: Old26
      And Sevastopol, Novorossiysk,

      To do this, go to the Black Sea, where the advantage of our Black Sea Fleet has not yet been disputed. At the same time, Crimea is not a floating barge.
      The essence of the Status is to deliver an unacceptable blow, the prospect of which, neither the United States nor any other state will suit in principle.
      And against the Russian Federation, Status-6 is not as terrible as the states I have listed.
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    28 January 2018 22: 32
    The most destructive space weapon - "Arrows of God"
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    30 January 2018 10: 42
    Quote: NEXUS
    For the most part ... at the same time, you do not take into account the area of ​​states, as well as population density.

    Are you serious, Andrey? Most US industrial infrastructure on the coast ????

    Quote: NEXUS
    Yeah ... who are almost next to European territory, where everything is close. Go, tear it, and I'll see what comes back to Europe ..

    Andrew! Do you seriously think that the Americans will bother the fate of the Baltic countries if they need to destroy shipbuilding capacities in St. Petersburg with such an underwater nuclear warhead? Even if we are not talking about a 100 mt charge, but a much smaller one, it will be enough for these factories located at the Neva’s outlet to the gulf to be washed away ...

    Quote: NEXUS
    Pass SF still need ....

    What's so complicated? It turns out interesting double standards. So our "Status" is a priori considered non-interceptible, but from the analogue "the Northern Fleet must pass"? Are there facilities on the Northern Fleet that can intercept a similar vehicle at the same depths and speeds? Indeed, in order to flush Severodvinsk with a 100-mt charge, it is not at all necessary to deliver it to the very threshold .. The same saome and Severomorsk. Even blown up on the surface at the entrance to the Kola Bay will cover Murmansk, Severomorsk and other places of basing. And what will an underwater explosion do, or rather a wave, even if not at the very entrance to a sufficiently narrow Kola Bay?

    Quote: NEXUS
    And Sevastopol, Novorossiysk,
    To do this, go to the Black Sea, where the advantage of our Black Sea Fleet has not yet been disputed. At the same time, Crimea is not a floating barge ..

    Is our advantage in the Black Sea undeniable? Fear God, Andrew. Look at the fleet of the same Turkey on the Black Sea and what we have in the Black Sea. Which will prevent even the surface carrier of the “Status” analog from passing through the Bosphorus and shooting back as soon as it leaves Turkey’s turvod. Not to mention that, as a surface carrier, he can easily move to the central part of the Black Sea and we can’t do anything to him
    Crimea is really not a floating barge. It is really very difficult for him to miss the RPO. Moreover, the "entrances" to Sevastopol and other targets are located, which is called with an orientation to the west

    Quote: NEXUS
    The essence of the Status is to deliver an unacceptable blow, the prospect of which, neither the United States nor any other state will suit in principle. And against the Russian Federation, Status-6 is not as terrible as the states I have listed.

    The essence of not only the Status, but also analogues in the United States inflict the same unacceptable damage on us. And they can do it as elementarily as we do. And the same damage will not suit us in principle. Because we will also lose all our fleet basing points. The Americans have a large number of bases scattered around the world. And he, or rather, its analogue will be as scary for us as it is for the Americans. In addition, I am very interested in this whole system associated with the delivery of these weapons to the enemy. I voiced questions a little higher. But I didn’t wait for an answer to them yet

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