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In Ukraine, the birth rate fell below 90's

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During the week on our site there was a material about the demographic condition of the Russian regions with the predominant residence of the Russians link) Today we publish news material on the situation with demography in the neighboring state - in Ukraine. The basis is the annual report of Ukrstat.


Based on this report, it can be concluded that the birth rate among Ukrainian women has fallen to record lows over the past few decades. It turns out that the birth rate in Ukraine has fallen even below the 90-s, when the deepest demographic crisis was recorded. Between January and November 1992, about 540 thousands of babies were born in Ukraine. For the very first 10 months of 2017 (statistics of Ukrstat) - only 336 thousand. The drop in the birth rate compared to the first year of independence is almost two times.

Moreover, the current birth rates in Ukraine are lower than the most disastrous in terms of demographic indicators of 1999 and 2000. At that time, about 370-380 thousand babies per year were born (for the indicated period).

In Ukraine, the birth rate fell below 90's


The M.Ptukhi Institute of Demography and Social Research reports that Ukraine’s population decline has seriously accelerated in recent years. Ukrainian demographers say that in order to reach the start of 90’s, Ukrainian women “must have at least 3’s children in their lifetime”. Demographers do not report how this should change the social and economic policy of the state in Ukraine.

For reference: for the birth of a child (no matter what “in a row”) in Ukraine, an allowance is paid at about 41 thousand UAH (about 80 thousand rubles). In this case, the benefit is not paid once, but is divided into component parts - around 10 thousand UAH at birth, then monthly until the age of three, on average 850 UAH. The child care allowance before 3 years against this background, the Ukrainian authorities canceled. Under the “bloody dictator” Yanukovich and in the first months after the “victory of the dignity revolution”, the authorities paid about 30 thousand UAH for the birth of the first child and about 125 thousand UAH for the birth of the second and subsequent children.
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 27 January 2018 11: 06
    +6
    Everyone in the EU left with lace panties .. hehe heh Ukraine!
    1. The black
      The black 27 January 2018 11: 09
      +4
      The African continent has already begun to make itself felt, where the population is growing, on the contrary, will come to develop arable land with black soil, somewhere near Kryzhoplyom wassatWell, sho, youngEeSovtsy, did your Europe help you? - it will utilize you on URA! (only it is not necessary about the great migration of peoples) laughing
      1. dauria
        dauria 27 January 2018 13: 32
        +4
        The African continent has already begun to make itself felt, there, on the contrary, the population is growing,


        By the way, the normal phenomenon is that the more civilized and richer they live, the less they give birth. Conclusion - life in Ukraine is wonderful. (Europe, too, only at the expense of the Arabs holds, so would have died out nafig) wassat
        1. jjj
          jjj 27 January 2018 14: 09
          +2
          It turns out that in a democracy it’s worse ...
          1. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 27 January 2018 14: 24
            +5
            Of course, Ukrainians, who became pregnant while working on highways around the world or from sex tourists in Ukraine itself, or raped by the soldiers of the occupying American, European, junta troops and mercenaries, give birth to someone. Only Ukrainian statistics cannot be trusted. There you can’t trust anyone and nothing, and even more so with statistics. If the number of people in Ukraine decreases every year by millions, then what difference does it make how many are born there per year: 50 thousand. or 70 thousand.
            It would be different - they would have long held an All-Ukrainian population census, which, according to international rules, they are obliged to conduct for seven years already. But they do not. Obviously why they don’t do it - they hide the genocide of the Ukrainian population.
          2. dauria
            dauria 27 January 2018 14: 38
            +1
            It turns out that in a democracy it’s worse ...

            No, it’s just that women with modern medicine have a lot of opportunities not to become pregnant or to terminate a pregnancy. One child "for herself" is enough for her. And more - why should the "consumer" take the burden, and even "for free"?
        2. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 27 January 2018 16: 31
          +1
          Quote: dauria
          normal phenomenon - the more civilized and richer they live, the less they give birth

          Let me give you an alternative point of view: The more the number of migrants in the country, visitors and home-grown, the less the country needs the birth rate.
      2. Dedall
        Dedall 27 January 2018 14: 27
        +2
        Black Today, 11:09 am New
        The African continent has already begun to make itself felt, where the population is growing, on the contrary, will come to develop arable land with black soil, somewhere near Kryzhoplyom.
        The black ones managed to dry the soil of the Sahara, and in Ukropia they were doing business for a couple of years.
    2. Safevi
      Safevi 27 January 2018 11: 14
      14
      In truth, Russia is far from a fountain in this area. Pot calls the kettle black...
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 27 January 2018 11: 21
        15
        At my site, Uzbeks rent an apartment, they have maternity tourism, they come to give birth, give birth and leave, then others come, and so every month.
        1. The black
          The black 27 January 2018 11: 34
          +3
          Quote: Evil543
          At my site, Uzbeks rent an apartment, they have maternity tourism, they come to give birth, give birth and leave, then others come, and so every month.

          So what? The child born in the Russian Federation by foreigners, according to our legislation, is a foreigner. (By automatic, he will not receive urbanism)
          1. Northern warrior
            Northern warrior 27 January 2018 11: 41
            11
            Only here the services of the hospital are paid by Russian citizens from their taxes ...
            1. The black
              The black 27 January 2018 12: 01
              +5
              Quote: Northern warrior
              Only here the services of the hospital are paid by Russian citizens from their taxes ...

              Who told you this? .... childbirth, of course, will be accepted by a foreigner, but then she will be billed .... wink (if she does not have a temporary medical policy)
              1. Northern warrior
                Northern warrior 27 January 2018 12: 02
                +1
                They will bill her, but will she pay?
                1. The black
                  The black 27 January 2018 12: 04
                  +2
                  Quote: Northern warrior
                  They will bill her, but will she pay?

                  Agree, this is another question. Doctors have "leverage" (though not entirely legal .. well, or completely illegal) to force her or her relatives to pay wink... in general, I do not believe in mass "tribal" tourism. Of course, I have no reason not to believe the guy who wrote about the Uzbek woman, maybe they are going. Only here the question is in the reason (or reasons). But this certainly does not give them any privileges in the Russian Federation ....
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 27 January 2018 12: 25
                    +2
                    Quote: sefevi
                    In truth, Russia is far from a fountain in this area. Pot calls the kettle black...


                    In Europe it’s even worse, but it is slowly recovering.
                    1. Sergeant71
                      Sergeant71 27 January 2018 12: 31
                      +9
                      What is being restored? Mortality is higher than fertility. Small growth in recent years to say at the expense of whom or do you yourself know? Arriving and southern republics.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 27 January 2018 12: 42
                        +6


                        Here is the data that reflect the truth, now we are caught up by the pit of the 90s.
                  2. Maki Avellevich
                    Maki Avellevich 27 January 2018 12: 46
                    +1
                    Quote: Black
                    Agree, this is another question. Doctors have "leverage" (though not entirely legal .. well, or completely illegal) to force her or her relatives to pay


                    it’s not the business of doctors to blackmail relatives.
                    how do these "tourists" cross the border?
                    1. Evil543
                      Evil543 27 January 2018 12: 53
                      0
                      By plane or train, there is no ban unless deported before
                    2. The black
                      The black 27 January 2018 13: 11
                      +2
                      Quote: Maki Avellievich
                      how do these "tourists" cross the border?

                      quite legal ... we have visa-free with the republics of the SA ...
                    3. Cadet
                      Cadet 27 January 2018 13: 39
                      +4
                      Everything is simple, through Kazakhstan, buses, trains, planes and minibuses are jam-packed.
                2. RUSS
                  RUSS 27 January 2018 12: 13
                  +4
                  Quote: Northern warrior
                  They will bill her, but will she pay?

                  If an immigrant not a citizen gave birth in a Russian maternity hospital and did not pay at discharge, then of course she will be discharged and the child will be given, BUT without documents and without certificates.
                3. Baloo
                  Baloo 28 January 2018 19: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: Northern warrior
                  They will bill her, but will she pay?

                  If there is no policy, he will pay for more than 3 days, prenatal patronage, etc.
            2. RUSS
              RUSS 27 January 2018 12: 11
              +5
              Quote: Northern warrior
              Only here the services of the hospital are paid by Russian citizens from their taxes ...

              No, this is not so, not citizens give birth for a fee! This is a fact, and they pay for each day spent in the hospital.
            3. alexmach
              alexmach 27 January 2018 12: 25
              0
              Not a fact, do you think in Russia any foreigner who has come for a month can just get medical help? I think they buy some kind of insurance.
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 28 January 2018 19: 11
                +1
                Quote: alexmach
                Not a fact, do you think in Russia any foreigner who has come for a month can just get medical help? I think they buy some kind of insurance.

                He must have a policy. And he will receive emergency and emergency care for free, incl. and childbirth. In Russia, infant and maternal mortality are severely punished, the analysis is always on the level of the Ministry of Health, a whole commission.
          2. Evil543
            Evil543 27 January 2018 12: 10
            +3
            This has nothing to do with, we just have more survival during childbirth, and that's all they come to us.
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 27 January 2018 11: 35
          0
          Quote: Evil543
          At my site, Uzbeks rent an apartment, they have maternity tourism, they come to give birth, give birth and leave, then others come, and so every month.

          Yes, there is such a thing.
      2. The black
        The black 27 January 2018 11: 23
        +7
        Quote: sefevi
        In truth, Russia is far from a fountain in this area. Pot calls the kettle black.

        What does it mean far from a fountain? ... The situation has been quite stable over the past few years. In the last two years - a decline. But this is a legacy of the 90s. Reckless liberals and crap ... so whose ram would bleat
        1. onix757
          onix757 27 January 2018 11: 40
          +7
          Quote: Black
          What does it mean far from a fountain? ... The situation has been quite stable over the past few years.

          Stable extinction of the Russian population
          1. The black
            The black 27 January 2018 11: 41
            +6
            Quote: onix757
            Stable extinction of the Russian population

            And why exactly Russian. Are you a bureau employee? wink
            1. onix757
              onix757 27 January 2018 11: 50
              0
              Apparently because Russians are least protected in the Russian Federation
              1. The black
                The black 27 January 2018 11: 57
                +3
                Quote: onix757
                Apparently because Russians are least protected in the Russian Federation

                But do we have it written in the Constitution? ... or what other Law is there? ... Can you give examples?
                1. onix757
                  onix757 27 January 2018 12: 01
                  0
                  If something was written, the result would be the opposite.
            2. RUSS
              RUSS 27 January 2018 12: 14
              +1
              Quote: Black
              Quote: onix757
              Stable extinction of the Russian population

              And why exactly Russian. Are you a bureau employee? wink

              Because the birth rate is falling in the regions predominantly populated by Russians
              1. The black
                The black 27 January 2018 13: 13
                +2
                Quote: RUSS
                Because the birth rate is falling in the regions predominantly populated by Russians

                And who is to blame? Come to help? wassat
                1. onix757
                  onix757 27 January 2018 13: 22
                  +4
                  Quote: Black
                  And who is to blame?

                  Of course, Obama and Trump are to blame, with their anti-people policies.
                  Quote: Black
                  Come to help?

                  People without help will cope, you just need to give the opportunity to live and not survive.
                2. Angler
                  Angler 27 January 2018 19: 32
                  +2
                  Why come? Cash on delivery, to the account, to the card. There are many options. And then people themselves will cope. It would be something to raise children!
          2. Alex shev
            Alex shev 27 January 2018 13: 52
            +1
            Are you worried about the Russian population? So there will be three more Russian-born. It will be difficult, but it is always difficult to grow children, but then everything comes back handsomely. Only you are hardly Russian.
      3. dorz
        dorz 27 January 2018 11: 24
        +3
        With the "bloody dictator" Yanukovych and

        What is happening in Ukraine 90% of Yanukovych’s wine.
        1. Pirogov
          Pirogov 27 January 2018 11: 31
          10
          Quote: dorz
          What is happening in Ukraine 90% of Yanukovych’s wine.

          Of course Yanukovych’s fault, it was necessary to roll horses into the asphalt, and not to conduct negotiations and look into the EU with the USA in the mouth.
        2. Vard
          Vard 27 January 2018 11: 33
          +3
          That's for sure ... here it’s all the same sitting in Russia ... but I would give the order to shoot ... I would sit in Ukraine ... not visiting ...
        3. onix757
          onix757 27 January 2018 11: 49
          +2
          It is VV's fault. not Mayakovsky. With his tacit consent, Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia were presented to the West
        4. alexmach
          alexmach 27 January 2018 12: 31
          +3
          What is happening in Ukraine 90% of Yanukovych’s wine.

          No, this is not true, this is too primitive a view. In fact, all the participants in the “process” are responsible for the current state of affairs, and this is Putin (yes, he also had a hand, although not as fatally as the Ukrainian media describe), EU-sheep with Americans, and wide layers of the Maidan public, and other citizens of Ukraine, and self-acting authorities. Yanukovosch is also to blame for something, but blaming 90% of the blame on a person who has been suspended for 4 years is somehow strange.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 27 January 2018 12: 32
            +1
            In general, one can feel the approach of the elections in Russia “Putin is to blame” pops up in almost every commentary even here.
      4. RUSS
        RUSS 27 January 2018 11: 39
        +5
        Quote: sefevi
        In truth, Russia is far from a fountain in this area. Pot calls the kettle black...

        In Russia, the birth rate continues to fall. In the first seven months of 2017, the number of births decreased by 11,3% compared to the same period in 2016. Experts attribute the drop in the number of newborns to the demographic pit and uncertainty about tomorrow.

        From January to July, 969,4 thousand people were born in Russia, according to Rosstat. A year earlier, more than a million children were born. The fall in fertility is observed in almost all regions of Russia.

        Fertility is falling for the fourth year in a row. So, in 2014, 1,942 million children were born in Russia, in 2015 - 1,940 million, last year - 1,888 million.
        At the same time, the birth rate also decreases (the number of births per 1000 people). This year the value is at the level of 11,4, while a year earlier it was about 12,8.

      5. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 27 January 2018 11: 50
        +4
        Quote: sefevi
        In truth, Russia is far from a fountain in this area. Pot calls the kettle black...
        We are interested as the closest neighbors, besides having the largest number of kinship ties with Urkaine. What do you care about Russia? Yes, in fact, Urkain is not your topic. So "mooing" is more about you ...
        1. onix757
          onix757 27 January 2018 11: 56
          +7
          To clean migrants from statistics and the picture will turn out less rosy. More precisely, it’s not at all rosy.
        2. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 27 January 2018 12: 51
          +4
          in Russia, the birth rate is 1.75 per woman. 2.1 is needed to maintain balance, and more to grow.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 27 January 2018 13: 02
            +2
            Quote: onix757
            To clean migrants from statistics and the picture will turn out less rosy. More precisely, not at all rainbow

            Quote: Maki Avellievich
            in Russia, the birth rate is 1.75 per woman. 2.1 is needed to maintain balance, and more to grow.

            EKLMN guys! It’s great, of course, that you have such a genuine interest in how things are with the birth rate in Russia and what the figures for demographic growth are made up of, but do you have a desire to “clean up” the same indicators in Europe? Weed out the number of migrants who flowed there and calculate the birth rate per European woman. According to anyone, in recent years, statistics show an increase in the population of Russia. What's wrong?..............
            "Like it not, but we are growing
            And next to the enemy is our old enemy,
            That spits in us, then picks with a nail ....
            But we are growing! "" "
            1. Don
              Don 27 January 2018 15: 14
              +3
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              According to anyone, in recent years, statistics show an increase in Russia's population. What's wrong?..............
              "Like it not, but we are growing

              Einstein has long proved that everything in the world is relative. Regarding some kind of Holland, we are growing, and relative to the USA and China we are dying out. The same goes for economics. Regarding Honduras and Tajikistan, we generally live well, and with respect to leading economies, the gap continues to increase. And everything would be fine, we would live in peace for ourselves, everyone would compare with those with whom it is more convenient for him, if not for a small BUT !!! Russia is too huge, too rich in resources and around itself has too many enemies who openly or quietly claim these resources. Therefore, one of our citizens wants to or not, but either we will be economically rich, with one of the strongest armies comparable to the leading ones, with a large population, or Russia will disappear from the political map of the world, with all the ensuing consequences for those living today on its territory people. Dot.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 27 January 2018 15: 48
                +2
                Quote: Donskoy
                Einstein has long proved that everything in the world is relative. Regarding some kind of Holland, we are growing, and relative to the USA and China we are dying out. The same goes for economics. Regarding Honduras and Tajikistan, we generally live well, and with respect to leading economies, the gap continues to increase. And everything would be fine, we would live in peace for ourselves, everyone would compare with those with whom it is more convenient for him, if not for a small BUT !!! Russia is too huge, too rich in resources and around itself has too many enemies who openly or quietly claim these resources. Therefore, one of our citizens wants to or not, but either we will be economically rich, with one of the most powerful armies, with a large population, or Russia will disappear from the political map of the world, with all the ensuing consequences for the people living on its territory today . Dot.
                With Einstein and his “relativity,” you are partly right and partly not. No one in the past 100 years has suffered so many shocks as Russia. Two world wars with a revolution between them + civil war + local wars + three shifts of state structure. It’s a miracle that Russia basically retained its territory and survived as a state, and in terms of economic development did not slide to the level of Kampuchea. All of the listed historical events deprived Russia of at least 50 million people. Were it not for these factors, the population of Russia at the moment would be at least 0,5 billion people. In the words of Kozma Prutkov - "Look at the root", and therefore, if you "ripen" more closely, then behind all the "steam rooms" of Russia is the world of the Anglo-Saxons. Agree, few of those “regarding” whom they pursue such a consistent policy of disorganization and destruction. So, even if the population growth is not very large as we would like, but even this indicator is unacceptable for them. As for the economy, then again, with all their sanction pressure, it is growing. The Moodis International Agency, just yesterday, raised Russia's sovereign economic rating from “stable” to “positive”.
                1. Don
                  Don 27 January 2018 16: 05
                  +2
                  All that you wrote about the story I will leave without comment, because history does not have the subjunctive mood "if".
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  So, even if the population growth is not very large as we would like, but even this indicator is unacceptable for them. As for the economy, then again, with all their sanction pressure, it is growing.

                  For this part of your comment, I can say the following. You tell me that the vessel is half full and it, although very, very slowly, but continues to fill up. I'm trying to talk about the contents of this glass. Something with which it is filled and will continue, though very slowly, to fill up - this categorically does not suit us and cannot arrange us.
      6. vlad66
        vlad66 27 January 2018 13: 45
        +7
        Quote: sefevi
        Pot calls the kettle black.

        But yours would be silent, attend to demography in Azerbaijan hi
    3. Chertt
      Chertt 27 January 2018 11: 15
      +6
      Quote: MIKHAN
      with lace panties

      I’ll say politically incorrect now, but women in lace shorts who have children are not fit at all .. And this is a problem not only of Ukraine, (burn with a blue flame), but also of Russia in the first place
    4. Herculesic
      Herculesic 27 January 2018 11: 42
      +5
      MIKHAN-Vitaliy, as always, noted the first, and stupid comment! fool Dress yourself lace panties and wear it! fool We are not very far from them! am
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 27 January 2018 11: 57
        +5
        Quote: Herkulesich
        MIKHAN-Vitaliy,

        laughing And if Meehan hadn’t said that, how would you react?
        1. Herculesic
          Herculesic 27 January 2018 12: 13
          +6
          Tired of just reading “heh heh, lace panties!” The third year is the same! The man is clearly unevenly breathing in women's underwear!
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 27 January 2018 12: 18
            +9
            Quote: Herkulesich
            The man is clearly unevenly breathing in women's underwear!

            laughing laughing laughing Well, then a real man !!!!
            what I just for a long time have been watching your nervous explosions in only one name "MIKHAN", maybe it's not a matter of shorts at all?
            1. Herculesic
              Herculesic 27 January 2018 12: 51
              +4
              The fact is that Vitaly comments primarily on the comments of others, not the article! And secondly, an abundance of slogans like we them! And not once - they are us! A man got accustomed to the role of an arator, such a tribune of the people, and lost touch with reality! I want to return it from him invented into our real world!
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 27 January 2018 12: 55
                +6
                Quote: Herkulesich
                I want to return it from him invented into our real world!

                laughing OOOO, so your site will have an extensive clientele .... here half of these bully
                1. Herculesic
                  Herculesic 27 January 2018 13: 05
                  +1
                  No, so get involved in the matter too, help bring a person back to the real world!
                  1. vlad66
                    vlad66 27 January 2018 14: 04
                    +8
                    Quote: Herkulesich
                    No, so get involved in the matter too, help bring a person back to the real world!

                    Herculesych, and who are you a doctor? Matchmaker, godfather or boss Vitaliku?
                    You know what many of the mistakes made by Zaputinists, Zagrudinets, and other Indians laughing The cuckoo was completely demolished from politics, they are looking at each other through a sight, Vitalkino is sick of us, we will crush everyone without getting up from the sofas, but also the sternum, sternum, sternum are also sickened so that you just can’t hear without having spit request so that
                    Quote: Herkulesich
                    I want to return it from him invented into our real world!

                    Well this is not real, at least for this year, until the elections settle down. request Too many cuckoo tore. hi
                    1. onix757
                      onix757 27 January 2018 14: 20
                      +2
                      If you are not involved in politics, then politics will be yours.
                      1. vlad66
                        vlad66 27 January 2018 15: 02
                        +8
                        Quote: onix757
                        If you are not involved in politics, then politics will be yours.

                        Well, the sixth dozen, everyone can’t do laughing
                        Quote: mashinist
                        ugh on you, your situation is not better than in Ukraine

                        Yes triple ugh on you, you need to bother painfully bother you.
    5. mashinist
      mashinist 27 January 2018 14: 17
      +1
      And the Russians directly give birth to 3 children ... ugh for you, your situation is no better than in Ukraine
      1. Alex shev
        Alex shev 27 January 2018 21: 08
        +1
        It may upset, but better. Our government is not a model, but it cares at least for the interests of its country, unlike the government of Ukraine.
        1. mashinist
          mashinist 29 January 2018 00: 44
          0
          it bothers so much that this article appeared with a bunch of indignant comments .. sn the average remained 20 thousand rubles, etc. you just have oil and gas but in Ukraine there isn’t the difference
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 28 January 2018 19: 16
        +1
        Quote: mashinist
        And the Russians directly give birth to 3 children ... ugh for you, your situation is no better than in Ukraine

        Birthdays in LDN are better than in the rest of Bandera. angry
  2. Logall
    Logall 27 January 2018 11: 06
    +9
    And rightly so! There should not be a generation brought up by Bandera!
    1. The black
      The black 27 January 2018 11: 11
      +5
      Quote: Logall
      And rightly so! There should not be a generation brought up by Bandera!

      "Dead Souls". Volume 2, which was considered burnt ... On the move! wassat
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 27 January 2018 11: 30
        +5
        Quote: Black
        "Dead Souls". Volume 2, which was considered burnt ... On the move!

        rose from the ashes ... wassat
    2. taiga2018
      taiga2018 27 January 2018 11: 11
      +2
      they have already raised them in sufficient quantities, they do not need the extra ...
    3. 264
      264 27 January 2018 11: 12
      +4
      Well, what kind of evil are you ... Are we doing well with this matter? Woman 4 gave birth, so NOBODY from the "powers that be" helps her, only we, neighbors. am Where are you all there, forum users ........... am am am am am am amAnd at least one with .............. try to object to me now
      1. The black
        The black 27 January 2018 11: 13
        +2
        Quote: 264
        Well, what kind of evil are you ... But is this good with us?

        well this is where how smile
      2. Logall
        Logall 27 January 2018 11: 26
        10
        Man, you know that I have two! I want 3 ...
        The decrease in the birth rate in our country is due to the imposition of a consumer pattern in our society! ! many people make a career. . . to provide for the children, but there is no time left for the children themselves!
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 27 January 2018 12: 03
          10
          Quote: Logall
          many people make a career. . . to provide for children, but there is no time left for the children themselves!

          True truth Alexander! And lately, I have a feeling that children have become the subject of bargaining between the state and citizens recourse
      3. Serg65
        Serg65 27 January 2018 12: 00
        +8
        Quote: 264
        Here is the 4 Woman giving birth, so NOBODY from "those who hold power" helps her

        what And for whom did she give birth? For yourself or for those in power?
        Quote: 264
        And at least one with .............. try to object to me now

        Cover your mouth, or you will catch tonsils!
      4. Baloo
        Baloo 28 January 2018 19: 17
        +1
        Quote: 264
        Well, what kind of evil are you ... Do we have a good situation with this? Woman 4 gave birth, so NOBODY from the "powers that be" helps her, only we, neighbors

        This does not happen, study the legislation on this issue.
    4. RUSS
      RUSS 27 January 2018 11: 40
      +2
      Quote: Logall
      And rightly so! There should not be a generation brought up by Bandera!

      Complete nonsense, have you recorded all the Ukrainians in Bandera?
      1. Northern warrior
        Northern warrior 27 January 2018 12: 01
        +2
        Not everyone there is Bandera, but most sympathize with them. In the 2014 pre-election, the turnout was 60%, 55% voted for the bail, 13% for Russophobia Julia, 8% for homosexual Lyashka, and 5.5% for the stubborn former defense minister. The result - 80% of those who came to the polls voted for obvious Russophobia, i.e. 48% of the total number of voters. Do you need such brothers?
        1. Antares
          Antares 27 January 2018 12: 32
          +1
          Quote: Northern warrior
          In the 2014 presidential election, the turnout was 60%,

          in different regions in different ways (by the way in Russian-speaking, in general, the percentage was small)
          Quote: Northern warrior
          55% voted for the bucket, 13% voted for russophobia julya, 8% voted for homosexual lyashka, and 5.5% for the stubborn former defense minister. The result - 80% of those who came to the polls voted for obvious Russophobia, i.e. 48% of the total number of voters. Do you need such brothers?

          after the candidates listed, I realized that the people on the contrary voted for lesser evil (Poroshenko) because there are no others on your list. In Ukraine, they always vote for lesser evil.
          Call a worthy! With media promotion. We do not adore the leader or respect for the authorities. We always have the same opinion, thieves.
          1. Northern warrior
            Northern warrior 27 January 2018 14: 11
            +3
            It's not about assholes upstairs, but the lack of a brain in a large part of the population. Is it really possible to be so stupid that every time you keep on the initially false promises of the same nits?
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 28 January 2018 19: 19
          +1
          Quote: Northern warrior
          Not everyone there is Bandera, but most sympathize with them.

          What is characteristic, even 500 \ 1 did not come to the polls for the presidential elections in Ukraine from the Moscow 1000 thousand Ukrainian diaspora
  3. Dormidont
    Dormidont 27 January 2018 11: 06
    +1
    Our western and middle eastern partners know their job well
  4. alavrin
    alavrin 27 January 2018 11: 20
    +3
    For some reason, those who consider themselves to be the "stronghold of European civilization" and are fighting the "Russian threat" of loss, as in a full-scale war. True, not the fault of Russia)). Lithuania has lost a third of the population since 1991, Latvia - about a third, Estonia - 40%. Ukraine is about a quarter.)
    Fight on, Russophobes.
  5. Vard
    Vard 27 January 2018 11: 32
    +1
    This is without taking into account those Ukrainians who are now in Russia ... I know two ... three children each and want more ...
  6. Masya masya
    Masya masya 27 January 2018 11: 37
    +5
    vague suspicions torment me, Russia didn’t have a hand? on the highway girls-hohlushki stand idle? repeat
    1. Northern warrior
      Northern warrior 27 January 2018 11: 44
      0
      Khokhlushki on the tracks is a biological bomb abandoned on the territory of the aggressor!
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 27 January 2018 13: 26
        +1
        Quote: Northern warrior
        Khokhlushki on the tracks is a biological bomb,

        This is an indicator of the troubled state of Ukraine! tongue What do you have against Ukrainians? wink
        1. Northern warrior
          Northern warrior 27 January 2018 14: 01
          +2
          This is an indicator of the corruption of the brothers. All the brothels of Europe and Turkey are crammed with whores from 404, which makes us think about the essence of this people. There is enough shit among other nationalities, but the harem farmers have surpassed everyone.
          T.N. Ukrainians - this is a generalized name for traitors, consisting of a hellish mixture of Russians, Poles and Jews. These people betrayed their faith and culture, trampled their recent past into shit and sold out to the Americans for the cookies of Ms. Nuland.
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    1. Lesorub
      Lesorub 27 January 2018 12: 04
      +1
      Weak analytics, inability to realize that the outskirts are not only Poroshenko’s adherents (or radicals), various “Minorities” live here - everyone does not need one comb.
      1. Northern warrior
        Northern warrior 27 January 2018 12: 14
        +2
        Wow minority! In the 2014 pre-election, the turnout was 60%, 55% voted for the bail, 13% for Russophobia Julia, 8% for homosexual Lyashka, and 5.5% for the stubborn former defense minister. The result - 80% of those who came to the polls voted for obvious Russophobia, i.e. 48% of the total number of voters. And it was a very rough calculation yet ... Youngsters do not like to go to the polls, and there Russophobia in percentage terms is even more. Suppose the elections were rigged, the turnout was overstated, and the parasite was credited with votes, but this will hardly change the big picture.
        1. Lesorub
          Lesorub 27 January 2018 16: 54
          +2
          Do you still believe in the "election" !! )) or just give figures for significance), or do you think that Eastern Ukraine voted for gunpowder ?? ) As the States said, so it was! and still everything to their tune.
      2. Antares
        Antares 27 January 2018 12: 40
        +5
        Quote: Lesorub
        adherents of poroshenko

        women in Ukraine (Russia and other countries) give birth to a lot or not always from the economic situation.
        Analysts always associate this, forgetting that they give birth most of all to the underdeveloped, least to the developed ones (where a woman has more rights than a man).
        It all depends on the role of the woman, her education, employment in industry and the economy ...
        Modern women give birth to leisure. Realize yourself and live for yourself (emancipation and feminization). And analysts always pull one reason and the wrong one.
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    2. You Vlad
      You Vlad 27 January 2018 13: 29
      +4
      Quote: Northern warrior
      The faster this damned territory is empty, the better.

      It’s damned for you, but dear to us! Don’t need to push US propaganda for bread here for bread!
      1. Northern warrior
        Northern warrior 27 January 2018 15: 12
        +2
        This territory has repeatedly slipped to the ruin, so I see no reason to fight for it. There is, however, one option to get it - go in and stupidly kill the entire Russophobian Bandera trash. If the leadership of the Russian Federation is not ready for such radical measures, then it is necessary to strengthen the egg wall with minefields from the Russian side of the border. $ 200 billion had to be invested in Russia, and not support the Russophobian project of the West with free gas at $ 60 per thousand cubic meters and cheap loans.
    3. Alex shev
      Alex shev 27 January 2018 14: 01
      +3
      Do not try. Between normal Russians and normal Ukrainians, enmity cannot be planted. Therefore, we don’t block the borders for ordinary people, so that they know how in reality everything is in Russia and when they returned to their homeland they told the truth. The more Ukrainians will know about life in Russia, the faster the Bandera regime will be thrown off.
      1. Northern warrior
        Northern warrior 27 January 2018 15: 17
        +3
        When will you finally realize that there are no brothers there, and never was there ?! The commies tried to instill a sense of guilt to the Great Russians, hanging on their neck the contents of parasites in the form of fraternal peoples. There are brothers on the territory of 404, but these are Russian people who refused to betray the Russian name for lace panties, and the rest are Bandera and sympathize with them.
        1. onix757
          onix757 27 January 2018 15: 23
          +1
          Quote: Northern warrior
          When will you finally realize that there are no brothers there, and never was there ?! The commies tried to instill a feeling of guilt to the Great Russians by hanging parasites in the form of fraternal peoples on their neck.

          I know what was produced in Ukraine, Belarus and other fraternal republics, but I just can’t understand why within the RF the authorities created consumer regions, whose products no one had ever seen. And he consume quite a few.
        2. You Vlad
          You Vlad 27 January 2018 17: 15
          +1
          Quote: Northern warrior
          Russian people

          But Ukrainians are supposedly not Russian? lol When the traitors collapsed, consider everywhere in the post-Soviet space the tearing away from Russia began by treating the mass media population in the same ways (arguments) as you broadcast here laughing for 20 years! Not every person will have itsview wassat Listen, when people like you came to power in Ukraine with the help of the United States, they set tearing away from Russia as a priority, and they’re spinning the people’s head! They’re there, well, here you are. yes
          1. Northern warrior
            Northern warrior 27 January 2018 17: 56
            +1
            The Russian man remains Russian always, and the opportunist changes color like a chameleon. Ukrainians will fall under anyone who offers more sweets. They will betray Amerikos just as they did with us, but they certainly won’t play human rights and halve a shareholder without remorse. Nobody loves traitors, so the fate of Svidomo degenerates is a foregone conclusion.
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 27 January 2018 18: 06
              +3
              Quote: Northern warrior
              The Russian man remains Russian always, and the opportunist changes color like a chameleon. Ukrainians will fall under anyone who offers more sweets.

              You're lying!
              So the Ukrainians voted in a referendum to preserve the union in 1991:
              Crimean AR - 87,6%
              Vinnytsia region - 81,2%
              Volyn - 53,7%
              Dnepropetrovsk - 77,5%
              Donetsk - 84,6%
              Zhytomyr - 81,7%
              Transcarpathian - 60,2%
              Zaporizhzhya - 79,8%
              Ivano-Frankivsk - 18,2%
              Kievskaya - 66,9%
              Kirovograd - 82,4%
              Lugansk - 86,3%
              Lviv - 16,4%
              Nikolaev - 85,3%
              Odessa - 82,1%
              Poltava - 78,8%
              Rivne - 54,3%
              Sumy - 78,8%
              Ternopil - 19,3%
              Kharkiv - 75,8%
              Kherson - 81,0%
              Khmelnitsky - 87,9%
              Cherkasy - 77,3%
              Chernivtsi - 60,8%
              Chernihiv - 83,4%
              Kiev - 44,6%
              Sevastopol - 83,1%
              In Ukraine as a whole - 70,5%
              Quote: Northern warrior
              Amerikosov they will betray

              This is our outskirts. She always got the most nuts, they are extremely fit for life. wink
              Quote: Northern warrior
              Nobody loves traitors, so the fate of Svidomo degenerates is a foregone conclusion.

              The people of Ukraine, as can be seen from the referendum, did not attach, they gave the corrupt Ukrainian elite, well, in fact, their choice was not big.
              1. Northern warrior
                Northern warrior 27 January 2018 19: 01
                +1
                A corrupt elite is not from the people? Russia was heavily burned in the 90s as a friendship with a mattress, but for some reason the 404 population was led by lace panties, although it already had a clear example in the form of Syria and Libya. I’m talking now not about those morons who rushed to the Maidan with pots at the bread slicer, but about those who threw off money to help these morons, cursed the golden eagle fighters in social networks, urged to burn cotton wool. There are 404 millions of such earplugs, and a hundred thousand paid Raguli on the Maidan is just a picture for a box.
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 27 January 2018 19: 19
                  +1
                  Quote: Northern warrior
                  but the population of 404 for some reason fell for lace panties, although it already had a good example in the form of Syria and Libya.

                  They were led to the call to fight the oligarchs, do not stop The same thing we are trying to crank.
                  Quote: Northern warrior
                  Am, cursed the golden eagle fighters in social networks, urged to burn cotton wool. There are 404 millions of such earplugs, and a hundred thousand paid Raguli on the Maidan is just a picture for a box.

                  Such
                  ushlepkov
                  approximately 1% of the population of Ukraine.
                  1. Kot_Kuzya
                    Kot_Kuzya 27 January 2018 22: 48
                    0
                    Quote: You Vlad
                    approximately 1% of the population of Ukraine.

                    Yeah, fresh tradition. Apparently, 85% of Poroshenko, Tymoshenko, Lyazhko, Gritsenko, Yarosh, Tyagnibok, etc. who voted for Russophobes and Benderaites, etc., according to your arithmetic, only 1% wassat . Well, you have alternative math! 85% = 1%! To call the new mathematics "the mathematics of you Vlad" as they called the new geometry the "Lobachevsky geometry"?
                    1. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 27 January 2018 23: 23
                      +2
                      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                      Yeah, fresh tradition. Apparently, 85% of Poroshenko, Tymoshenko, Lyazhko, Gritsenko, Yarosh, Tyagnibok, etc. who voted for Russophobes and Benderaites, etc., according to your arithmetic, only 1%

                      Before the Maidan, the pro-Russian Yanukovych won the election! I repeat, the main idea of ​​the Maidan was the fight against the oligarchs! And after the victory of the Maidan, did the Ukrainians have a choice? Honestly, I don’t strongly believe in democracy winked
                      1. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 28 January 2018 01: 57
                        0
                        And what about the results of the May 2014 elections, let’s write off? And again we will put "brothers" on our necks?
                        "Ani, after all, pranked for Yanukovych!" Well, the analogy of "Anizhedeti!" fool
        3. Alex shev
          Alex shev 27 January 2018 21: 17
          +1
          Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are one people, they are really brothers with a common history, culture and identity, which is why attempts to come up with some kind of “separate history” for Ukraine look so awkward. If you want an example of a non-existent people, this is American. This is where there is no unity and never will be. It is worth the standard of living to fall at least a little and sad pilgrims will go home .... or they will organize gangs, the benefit of weapons is full .....
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 27 January 2018 22: 52
            +2
            In fact, those who know Russian, Ukrainian and Polish languages ​​know that the Ukrainian language is much closer to the Polish language than to Russian. And the Ukrainian mentality is similar to Polish than to Russian. So it’s enough to drive Soviet propaganda about the “fraternity” of the Russian and Ukrainian peoples. The Germans and the British are “brotherly” Germanic peoples, but no more evil enemies can be found. The French and Spaniards are also "brotherly" Romanesque peoples, but they also are not eager to unite, etc. But the Portuguese and Spaniards are generally the same people, closer than the Germans and Austrians, but also do not rush to kiss each other.
      2. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 27 January 2018 15: 57
        +4
        Quote: Alex Shev
        The more Ukrainians will know about life in Russia, the faster the Bandera regime will be thrown off.

        Yeah, throw off wassat . Are you the successor of the writer Smirnov with his opus "The Unconquered People"? When I read it, "Stalingrad on the Dnieper," I was still quite a kid, and sincerely believed that Ukrainians were brothers to us and that they were really proud and hard-working people. But since 2004, sobering has come, and I realized that everything that was said about the pots, that they were claps and hereditary slaves, this is all true. And all the "fraternity" is a soviet propaganda in order to hang a 50-million-footed and capricious embroidered chubat herd on the neck of Russians.
        1. Northern warrior
          Northern warrior 27 January 2018 16: 08
          +3
          I support you, dude! You chop the truth-womb about the fraternal Ukrainian people, which is not one. Fortunately, many Russians are already beginning to see clearly, which is pleasing. The enemies of Russia are not people with a 404 passport, but people with Ukrainian thinking, of which there are more and more in 404.
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 27 January 2018 16: 48
            +5
            86% of Ukrainians in 2014 voted for Russophobes Poroshenko, Tymoshenko, Lyazhko, Gritsenko and all sorts of Tyagnibokov and Yarosh. Therefore, it is not necessary to assert that de "Ukrainians are against Russophobes" and they are "all for Mother Russia!" I did not meet more Nazis than pots and all of them sincerely and purely hated the Russians, considering them the culprits of all their troubles. That is why the United States so easily managed to raise MILLIONS on the Independence Square, yes! MILLIONS of Ukrainians are in a Russophobic mood and, of their own free will, rode with the chants "Hate no less than that mo ... kal" and "M ... skalyak for a dime!" "," Dogbass ", etc. It was ordinary Ukrainians who sent SMSs of 5 hryvnias to donate to ATO fighters and donated money for bulletproof vests to their ladies.
            Russians, for example, the Amers failed to raise in 2011, only a part of the white-rebel renegades who deserved only contempt from the Russians took to the streets.
            1. Sadam
              Sadam 28 January 2018 00: 48
              0
              and what surprises you? - as if all the same, a piece of territory was chopped off and those Russian Ukrainians have right now this attitude to sowing a neighbor and there are less than a half of share holders there, among other things, and the rest speak Russian ...
              not brothers hmm ... yes in Russia every second godfather matchmaker brother with Khokhlyatsk roots especially in the Far East.
              And there were maidan so that such as Vasilyeva Serdyukov, the cellists did not spit in the face of the people
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 28 January 2018 01: 55
                +1
                Are you liberals generally friends with logic? Or just something to yap?
                Quote: Sadam
                and what surprises you? - as if all the same a piece of territory was chopped off and those Russian Ukrainians have right now this attitude to sowing a neighbor

                In fact, the pots rode back in November 2013 with the screeching "M ... ku on a dime!" and “Who the hell is that ... eh!”, and the Crimea moved away from this madhouse in March 2014. Can you even understand the effect and reason?
                1. Sadam
                  Sadam 28 January 2018 02: 15
                  0
                  they rode even with the Khmelnitsky ... Bender ... this does not cancel the concept of squeezing the territory. you believe that they will climb you into the gums for this. so by the way the Finns left at 40m and there were no Russian speakers there from the word at all. I observe the same thing in Riga - for 15 years - one generation - uprooted official Russian under the root
                  1. Kot_Kuzya
                    Kot_Kuzya 28 January 2018 02: 30
                    +1
                    Hard case:
                    Quote: Sadam
                    so by the way the Finns left at 40m

                    With such an ignoramus and a troll to correspond - do not respect yourself. And by the way, I don’t have a drop of bloody blood in me, and I'm proud of it.
                    1. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 28 January 2018 10: 43
                      0
                      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                      And by the way, I don’t have a drop of bloody blood in me, and I'm proud of it.

                      And are you so sure of that?
                      Are Russians and Ukrainians the same people?
                      http://slavyanskaya-kultura.ru/slavic/history/rus
                      skie-i-ukraincy-odin-narod.html
                      1. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 28 January 2018 11: 09
                        0
                        My parents are Petersburgers, and my ancestors come from the Pskov region, Novgorod region, Tver region and present-day Estonia. Traced his pedigree to at least 1500.
                    2. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 28 January 2018 11: 23
                      +1
                      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                      My parents are Petersburgers, and my ancestors come from the Pskov region, Novgorod region, Tver region and present-day Estonia.

                      So if the Russians and Ukrainians are one people? And before, unlike the current redistribution, no one doubted this! So, only blood flows in us ...
                      1. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 28 January 2018 11: 41
                        0
                        No! There is no general blood!
                    3. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 28 January 2018 11: 52
                      +2
                      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                      No! There is no general blood!

                      Genetic studies have shown that Russians are one of the most thoroughbred peoples in Eurasia.
                      Moreover, genetic scientists, summing up their research, declare that the genotypes of Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are almost completely identical, proving that we were and remain one people: “the genetic variations of the Y chromosome of the inhabitants of the central and southern regions of Ancient Russia were practically identical to those of Ukrainians and Belarusians. ”
                      http://russkievesti.ru/novosti/nauka/geneticheski
                      e-issledovaniya-pokazali-chto-russkie-odin-iz-sam
                      yix-chistokrovnyix-narodov-v-evrazii.html
                      Article title: Genetic studies have shown that Russians are one of the most thoroughbred peoples in Eurasia. In the search, you need to hammer together the address and name together, an error pops up by reference.
  8. avt
    avt 27 January 2018 11: 43
    +3
    request Well ..... what is so, such? Well, he announced ukrostat-dying out, it’s quite expected and predictable, and even Sumerokrov warned. Velikoukry themselves close the project ,, Ukraine. "What is it for us? The main thing is that the especially stubborn Svidomites-Sumerian horses should travel with Europ, at least to Poland, and not to Russia
  9. Northern warrior
    Northern warrior 27 January 2018 12: 07
    +1
    The descendants of the ancient Sumerians merge in all directions at the speed of light. There is no industry, energy is bending, science and education are deep in the ass, gas transit through 404 will soon run out, and the IMF does not want to give new loans. Peremoga is total and merciless!
  10. Nikolay Fedorov
    Nikolay Fedorov 27 January 2018 12: 17
    +2
    Muscovites are again to blame ...
    1. avt
      avt 27 January 2018 13: 04
      +3
      Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
      Muscovites are again to blame ...

      Well yes - won’t love them wassat
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 27 January 2018 12: 27
    +1
    The result of wise Ukrainian power under the control of American politics, the guys are clearing their arable land. Well, and how much time is left for the Ukrainians to realize their prospects as an integral nation, well, another 15-20 years? The truth will grow the next generation of non-slaves who will thank the aliens for the freedom of slavery!
  12. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 27 January 2018 12: 36
    +3
    Well, they are now tseurop and friends on the ass of children do not have ...
  13. Piramidon
    Piramidon 27 January 2018 12: 51
    +3
    Children are not born to drugs, no matter how hard they try
  14. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 27 January 2018 13: 03
    +4
    In 1992, 52 million people lived in Ukraine, in 2013 45 million. Now, with the deduction of Crimea, the LPR and the DPR, and the mass extinction of the skakuas or their flight to scrub toilet bowls abroad, the real population is 404 maximum 37 lyam. And the country continues to decline every year by 400 thousand horses per year. Faithful dear gallop, brothers! Go forward even further! Target - 10-15 Lyamas of Castrolegol laughing !
  15. Alex shev
    Alex shev 27 January 2018 13: 54
    +4
    Quote: onix757
    It is VV's fault. not Mayakovsky. With his tacit consent, Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia were presented to the West

    This is the 91st year you blame Putin? You need to know a little history.
    1. onix757
      onix757 27 January 2018 14: 13
      +1
      Quote: Alex Shev
      Quote: onix757
      It is VV's fault. not Mayakovsky. With his tacit consent, Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia were presented to the West

      This is the 91st year you blame Putin? You need to know a little history.

      in 91 he was already living with the dog’s Lensovet. And later he refused to support the pro-Russian president of Moldova Voronin, as a result of which the nationalists came to power. Legitimate in Ukraine did not return to power. As a result, Ukraine was lost to the Russian Federation. There was an hour to go to Tbilisi, but Sarkozy intervened and the army stood up. As a result, we have street J. Bush in Tbilisi.
      In my humble opinion, this is an anti-state approach.
      1. Alex shev
        Alex shev 27 January 2018 21: 31
        +4
        This is what kind of support from the Lensoviet to the President of Moldova can be provided? But to unleash a full-scale war, when the country is not ready for it, this is definitely an anti-state approach.
  16. Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich
    Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich 27 January 2018 14: 13
    +9
    That's all that is enough to know about the mythical so-called "Ukrainian" :-)))))
  17. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 27 January 2018 14: 24
    0
    Somehow it becomes uncomfortable or something, something that can not even be expressed in language, and yet the Russian language is so rich. Where did Ukraine freerly jump, having torn off its Russian root completely in the 90s, in search of some sort of ephemeral identification under Jewish-Bandera-evil-minded supervision? Yes, she jumped up to her end in lace embroideries, that even depraved Europeans and mattresses are afraid to admit, and that Ukrainians are about to begin to tear again under the wing of Russia. But time has already been lost, the CIA-SBU knocked out everyone who could protest.
  18. UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 27 January 2018 14: 32
    0
    During the period from January to November 1992, about 540 thousand babies were born in Ukraine. For the very first 10 months of 2017 (statistics of Ukrstat) - only 336 thousand. The fall in the birth rate compared to the first year of independence is almost doubled.

    The trend is obvious, but arithmetic still needs to be treated more carefully: for the 11 months of 1992 - 540 thousand, for the 10 month of 2017 - 336 thousand, extrapolated for 11 months, we get 370 thousand, that is, a drop in one and a half (even a little less), not twice.
  19. Nikolai Passerby
    Nikolai Passerby 27 January 2018 14: 58
    +1
    In the absence of good fertility news in Russia, we will read bad fertility news in Ukraine ...
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 28 January 2018 19: 23
      +1
      Quote: Nikolai Passerby
      In the absence of good fertility news in Russia, we will read bad fertility news in Ukraine ...

      And when giving birth to Ukrainians, they need to work for men in the ATO and on foreign earnings.
      1. Nikolai Passerby
        Nikolai Passerby 28 January 2018 20: 03
        +1
        Quote: Balu
        And when to give birth to Ukrainians,

        And what prevents Russians from giving birth ?! President elections ?... We do not have an anti-terrorist operation, even migrants have enough work, the men of Rosiyansk are in place ... If anything, men-migrants will help. But for some reason our Russians are not in a hurry to give birth ...
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 28 January 2018 20: 20
          +2
          Quote: Nikolai Passerby
          But for some reason our Russians are not in a hurry to give birth ...

          This is for demographers. We had a lecture on these topics. In life, I have encountered newlyweds, they want, but it does not work out. It’s not the boobs and the ass that speak about the woman’s health, but slender legs, posture, gait, hair, voice. About the man’s health, again, posture, voice, arms and legs, gait, mood. Great topic. Oddly enough, food and lifestyle. No wonder there is a saying about the dancer.
          1. Nikolai Passerby
            Nikolai Passerby 28 January 2018 23: 32
            +2
            Quote: Balu
            No wonder there is a saying about the dancer.

            Well then, then why point a finger at Ukraine ?! As in the proverb: “In the prying eyes, we see a mote, but we don’t notice the logs in our own?” ... We got already with our propaganda chatter, and paid Kremlin bots and in all respects complimentary moron patriots.
  20. ando_bor
    ando_bor 27 January 2018 15: 58
    +2
    Ukraine didn’t go far from the 90’s, because they were so easily dismissed,
    - Maidan technology based on real problems.
    Most Ukrainians jumped against real crooks and thieves, but not for that they organized the Maidan in order to solve the problems of Ukrainians.
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    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 27 January 2018 17: 39
      +1
      You can’t stretch a dude here for a long time, by strangling! Not me, so the elders.
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      2. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 27 January 2018 22: 56
        0
        Quote: You Vlad
        Not me, so elders.

        Then what, convicts with their concepts appeared sad ?
  22. LeonidL
    LeonidL 28 January 2018 03: 20
    +3
    The question is - who should give birth? From whom to give birth? Why give birth? Where to give birth? How much does it cost to give birth normally? The best contingent of girls in lace panties and without them swallowing pills works outside their beloved homeland. No one can give birth to them - no one will pay the loss of earnings and dikret ... Some of the most torn (or stoned) girls and women in camouflage with chewing gags and rags raises morale in the ATO (or as they call this vomit now). There is no time to reap either one or the other. From whom should I give birth if all men who are very little capable of reproduction are either in the trenches or on the run so that they are not caught in these trenches? The rest are working hard in Poland, Russia and so on, increasing the welfare of Poland, Russia ... Nobody has yet learned how to fertilize remotely, and the objects of fertilization again, see point one ... they are not in a hurry to get fertilized. Why give birth to prostitutes for Europe and Turkey and / or potential deceased for the fields of Donbass? You’ll think about it too .... Thanks to the efforts of Poproshenko and his predecessors, there’s simply nowhere to give birth, even if it does. If it’s an impetus and you need to give birth, then to give birth normally you need grandmothers that it’s easier not to give birth by any means than to give birth ... What is surprising that no one is eager to replenish the contingent of women in labor?
  23. Reinhard
    Reinhard 28 January 2018 09: 38
    +3
    It was already like that - they paid "children" and gave money after birth. Not the best part of the population took advantage of this. Officially, they handed back 40% of children to the orphanage, but how did they stop paying !!!! Normal people did not give birth because of this money. Mostly bred - drunkard. dope and primitive personalities. Also add a very large outflow of population abroad. There will be no known population growth.
  24. You Vlad
    You Vlad 28 January 2018 10: 05
    +1
    Kot_Kuzya,
    And we will write off the election results to the naivete of the Ukrainians, since many believed that the fight against the oligarchs would finally begin, which is what these individuals declared.
  25. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 29 January 2018 11: 32
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    No wonder they have a demographic hole. Our situation is only slightly better, mainly due to migrants. And it should be noted that our population is not 145 million, but much less, about 120 million. Where does infa come from? - Yes, the teacher told us at the institute, he is a reserve colonel, he had to draw up the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation at one time, and he was in the government, we know a lot of things that they don’t tell the wide circle.
    My personal example: out of my classmates and classmates at the institute (only 30 people), only 4 of them have children. Moreover, one vagrant shmara, both gave birth to her children and threw at her parents, went on walking, walking, and raising the demography recourse