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In the US Treasury announced the introduction of a new package of anti-Russian sanctions

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The United States has expanded (as announced) the list of anti-Russian sanctions. RIA News reports that "because of the situation in Ukraine," the United States extends its sanctions even on the 21 citizen of the Russian Federation and, remarkably, of Ukraine itself. However, in this case, the "citizens of Ukraine" in the United States basically refers to representatives of the Donetsk and Luhansk people's republics.


Sanctions imposed by the United States, voiced by officials of the US Treasury Department.

In addition to 21, 9 companies (Surgutneftegaz, Technopromexport and others) are on the list of US sanctions. The sanctions against 12 companies are “clarified”.

With regard to which of the Russian citizens introduced sanctions measures?

We are talking, in particular, about the representatives of Russian business and government. This, for example, the head of one of the departments of the Ministry of Energy Evgeny Grabchak, Deputy Minister of Energy Andrei Cherezov.

US Treasury Secretary Stephen Mnuchin said that the agency "identifies those who undermine the Minsk Agreement." If so, then Mnuchin in the first place should impose sanctions on the President of Ukraine and the Verkhovna Rada, which promoted the bill on the actual destruction of the Minsk agreements as such. Speech on the law of the so-called "reintegration of Donbass."

In the US Treasury announced the introduction of a new package of anti-Russian sanctions


In the United States themselves, the introduction of a regular portion of sanctions was called by some experts not decisive measures, but an attempt to “appease the hawks.” Such statements make it clear that, in fact, new measures are unlikely to change anything radically - sanctions for the sake of sanctions.
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  1. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 26 January 2018 19: 30
    11
    So that you don’t have a bottom or tires, I ask you to multiply the answer by two, with a margin.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 26 January 2018 19: 33
      16
      Thanks Trump ..! I directly sighed with all my chest and my heart was beating joyfully .. Working further means men! fellow
      , the head of one of the departments of the Ministry of Energy Yevgeny Grabchak, Deputy Minister of Energy Andrei Cherezov.

      Remember these surnames brothers ..!
      1. 264
        264 26 January 2018 19: 40
        45
        Vital, what planet do you live on? I’m here on planet Earth, RF. And, unlike you, blessed ones, life is not so good for me ... Tariffs, prices, gasoline ... EVERYTHING in price rises, regardless of the dollar exchange rate and the fluctuation of the price of oil, which I have with blood and then mined ... Zadolba lo everything ... Take me to your Mars ... Everything is fine with you ...
        1. Anton Capucin
          Anton Capucin 26 January 2018 19: 47
          26
          Quote: 264
          Vital, what planet do you live on? I’m here on planet Earth, RF. And, unlike you, blessed ones, life is not so good for me ... Tariffs, prices, gasoline ... EVERYTHING in price rises, regardless of the dollar and oil fluctuations ... Zadolba lo everything ... Take me to your Mars ... Everything is fine with you ...

          You probably didn’t know, but at the beginning of the crisis we have a free ruble, and wondering that oil is expensive, and that our ruble cannot win back much against the dollar, it’s definitely not worth it. Otherwise, we would have eaten all the gold. It is a matter of the country's survival or whether we will live well. It’s better for me to endure, although my salary has fallen by a factor of 2. Well, nothing, in my childhood I also didn’t very curly live sometimes on porridge with bread. And now, nothing, I can even afford a lot, though not all))
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 26 January 2018 19: 52
            42
            Quote: Anton Capucin
            Quote: 264
            Vital, what planet do you live on? I’m here on planet Earth, RF. And, unlike you, blessed ones, life is not so good for me ... Tariffs, prices, gasoline ... EVERYTHING in price rises, regardless of the dollar and oil fluctuations ... Zadolba lo everything ... Take me to your Mars ... Everything is fine with you ...

            You probably didn’t know, but at the beginning of the crisis we have a free ruble, and wondering that oil is expensive, and that our ruble cannot win back much against the dollar, it’s definitely not worth it. Otherwise, we would have eaten all the gold. It is a matter of the country's survival or whether we will live well. It’s better for me to endure, although my salary has fallen by a factor of 2. Well, nothing, in my childhood I also didn’t very curly live sometimes on porridge with bread. And now, nothing, I can even afford a lot, though not all))

            That's the ficus that only people suffer, and the elite is becoming richer and the economy is investing money in a trap. Against this background, I do not want to endure, I want to kick the guarantor with his friends out with kicks ..
            1. vlad66
              vlad66 26 January 2018 19: 59
              22
              Quote: Svarog
              Against this background, I do not want to endure, I want to kick the guarantor with his friends out with kicks ..

              Well kicked away laughing so, what is next.? Will life improve immediately or will sanctions be lifted? It will not improve and will not be removed.
              Quote: Stroporez
              Don’t worry about these

              Study there wink Kamrad is not worried. good
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 26 January 2018 20: 03
                15
                Quote: vlad66
                Well, kicked away and what's next.? Will life improve immediately or will sanctions be lifted? It will not improve and will not be removed.

                Further, the socialist state must be built, taking into account previous experience .. It will not improve immediately, but within 4 years everyone will notice improvements. Unless of course, Grudinin implements those 20 steps that are in the program.
                1. Crowe
                  Crowe 26 January 2018 20: 18
                  19
                  Grudinin? Have you already chosen him? Are you sure what is happening in Russia? RF President Putin. And another, in the near future, is not expected.
                  1. zloybond
                    zloybond 26 January 2018 21: 03
                    +6
                    I don’t understand one thing: Who supplies petroleum jelly to our government ????
                    What a passive position. bend over for the next catch ????
                    Maybe they will start there on Mondays from there is nothing to do with sanctions, which are somehow not in response, but just to pick it out of your nose ???? Just to have fun. But it’s best to give such things to the mountain on Friday evening .... so that Americans Americans all weekends toil around the question: what about us ???? Just like that ... for immunity ....
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 26 January 2018 21: 14
                      +4
                      Quote: ul_vitalii
                      So that you don’t have a bottom or tires, I ask you to multiply the answer by two, with a margin.


                      Yes, there will be an answer, but they won’t feel right away, and in time it will be too late.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 26 January 2018 21: 20
                        +3
                        Quote: Svarog
                        [It is necessary to build a socialist state further, taking into account previous experience .. It will not improve immediately, but within 4 years everyone will notice improvements. Unless of course, Grudinin implements those 20 steps that are in the program.


                        Are you a communist?
                      2. Cutter
                        Cutter 26 January 2018 23: 07
                        +2
                        Quote: cniza
                        Quote: ul_vitalii
                        So that you don’t have a bottom or tires, I ask you to multiply the answer by two, with a margin.


                        Yes, there will be an answer, but they won’t feel right away, and in time it will be too late.

                        US Treasury Secretary Stephen Mnuchin said the agency is "identifying those who undermine the Minsk Agreement."

                        Russians, look at the face of this cheerful moron! (I warn you - this is a literary expression !!!)
                        I doubt very much that you are afraid of these "sanctions" !!! yes
                      3. Esoteric
                        Esoteric 27 January 2018 07: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: cniza
                        Yes, there will be an answer, but they won’t feel right away, and in time it will be too late.

                        They won’t feel it and we won’t see it ... belay Such a cunning Putin’s answer: “They have us, but we are becoming stronger in terms of defense” lol Do you know what should be the "answer" in the TNT equivalent? Even in places of authorized use, where necessary?
                    2. Svarog
                      Svarog 26 January 2018 21: 23
                      12
                      Quote: zloybond
                      I don’t understand one thing: Who supplies petroleum jelly to our government ????
                      What a passive position. bend over for the next catch ????

                      What is not clear here?
                      1. To answer painlessly for ourselves is nothing.
                      2. They do not really want to answer, because they are afraid that the Americans will begin to arrest overseas assets of our elite.
                    3. Overlock
                      Overlock 26 January 2018 23: 38
                      +5
                      Quote: zloybond

                      What a passive position. bend over for the next catch ????
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 27 January 2018 00: 12
                        +5
                        Quote: Overlock
                        Overlock

                        two (...) is power! good
                  2. Non liberoid Russian
                    Non liberoid Russian 27 January 2018 05: 16
                    +5
                    sternin will not change anything, even if he is elected ... and only naive believe him
                    1. Esoteric
                      Esoteric 27 January 2018 07: 37
                      +2
                      Quote: Not Liberoid Russian
                      sternin will not change anything, even if he is elected ... and only naive believe him

                      What are you then "this" tearing. If Grudinin is Putin himself, only in profile, why did you hide all the sites with lies?
                2. Thirty-eight parrots
                  Thirty-eight parrots 26 January 2018 20: 19
                  15
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Further, the socialist state must be built,

                  So they will be strangled with the same sanctions, given the previous experience of the USSR. Remember the Jackson-Vanik amendment. And how many years she acted. And our current electorate is not accustomed to endure and tighten belts Alas.
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 26 January 2018 20: 27
                    21
                    Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
                    So they will be strangled with the same sanctions, given the previous experience of the USSR. Remember the Jackson-Vanik amendment. And how many years she acted. And our current electorate is not accustomed to endure and tighten belts Alas.

                    Well, right, for the sake of which to tighten the belt, for the sake of the Secrets, Taburetkin and other friends of the guarantor? You just imagine that the USSR would not feed half the world and it was allowed to conduct small and medium-sized businesses. In this case, all the attempts of the "partners" would simply be ridiculous. And our growth rate would be higher than in China, well, or comparable.
                    1. Thirty-eight parrots
                      Thirty-eight parrots 26 January 2018 20: 35
                      19
                      Quote: Svarog
                      You just imagine that the USSR would not feed half the world and it was allowed to conduct small and medium-sized businesses

                      Oh, if it were, yes, if only ...... But it is such a story, you cannot turn it back ..... So we have what has us. But vague doubts torment me that the capitalist Grudinin will build socialism ..... I don’t know why .... but they torment me.
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 26 January 2018 20: 43
                        10
                        Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
                        Quote: Svarog
                        You just imagine that the USSR would not feed half the world and it was allowed to conduct small and medium-sized businesses

                        Oh, if it were, yes, if only ...... But it is such a story, you cannot turn it back ..... So we have what has us. But vague doubts torment me that the capitalist Grudinin will build socialism ..... I don’t know why .... but they torment me.

                        Grudinin is not alone, behind him the Communist Party and they have a program.
                      2. Overlock
                        Overlock 26 January 2018 23: 10
                        +5
                        Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
                        Oh, if it were, yes, if only ...... But it is such a story, you cannot turn it back ..... So we have what has us. But vague doubts torment me that the capitalist Grudinin will build socialism ..... I don’t know why .... but they torment me.

                        Unfortunately, history repeats itself - again we forgive debts. Will Grudinin build socialism-NO. Putin certainly does not build it. Grudinin stands for souial justice. Putin is not. For at least 18 years this is not seen
                    2. Thirty-eight parrots
                      Thirty-eight parrots 26 January 2018 20: 46
                      +8
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Well, right, why tighten the belts,

                      do you think it’s dragged out for the sake of a dream of a brighter future ????? Oh ...
                      And about the amendment against the USSR What is your opinion.?
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 26 January 2018 21: 00
                        +9
                        Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
                        And about the amendment against the USSR What is your opinion.?

                        I answered above what I think about the amendment of the USSR. You just imagine that the USSR would not feed half the world and it was allowed to conduct small and medium-sized businesses. In this case, all the attempts of the "partners" would simply be ridiculous. And our growth rate would be higher than in China, well, or comparable.
                      2. vovanpain
                        vovanpain 26 January 2018 21: 01
                        +8
                        Svarog,
                        If the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), headed by I.V. Stalin, stood behind him, the strengths are serious and the Communist Party and the Communist Party followed it into business, so this is not serious. repeat
                3. Baloo
                  Baloo 26 January 2018 20: 21
                  18
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Unless of course, Grudinin implements those 20 steps that are in the program.

                  Do you still believe Grudinin? belay Then remember Gaidar, Yavlinsky may feel better. By the way, Grudinin writes the program to Boldarev, the same one, I recall: Boldyrev, Lukin (ambassador to the United States at that time), Yavlinsky. Now the first letters of what we got? Oh hell, the order is confused. Excuse me, of course, Yavlinsky, Boldyrev, Lukin-Yabloko, but something is not right in the first version.
                  Yavlinsky and Boldyrev the authors of the project on the division of jointly produced products and its lobbyists. This is the same law that GDP immediately repealed, and according to which 10 cents from the Sakhalin petrodollar of Russia, 90 cents from the USA. Moreover, residents were left without gas. Drowned than anything.
                  so you hope means Grudinin. Study carefully what the state farm earns, or rather Grudinin and his family. Yes, there are vacancies from 22 thousand to 200. 200 thousand is a driver with his dump truck and trailer. A realtor who is supposed to seduce buyers is 25 thousand. So, not everything there is so beautiful, clean and tidy. The oligarchs' GDP was demoted to businessmen and forced to work for the country, and those who do not understand are already farther away in Naglia and the USA. hi
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 26 January 2018 20: 30
                    18
                    Quote: Balu
                    Do you still believe Grudinin?

                    And the more it is watered, the more I believe. I do not believe that when the Communists come to power, they will forget about their program of 20 steps and forget about their promises. I don’t believe that. And by this, Grudinin will come to power, I’m sure that everything will be fine. Moreover, I do not believe Putin and his friends. HE IS ALREADY 18 YEARS OF AUTHORITY! SO WHAT? WHAT ARE THE RESULTS?
                    1. Baloo
                      Baloo 26 January 2018 20: 39
                      +5
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Quote: Balu
                      Do you still believe Grudinin?

                      And the more it is watered, the more I believe. I do not believe that when the Communists come to power, they will forget about their program of 20 steps and forget about their promises. I don’t believe that. And by this, Grudinin will come to power, I’m sure that everything will be fine. Moreover, I do not believe Putin and his friends. HE IS ALREADY 18 YEARS OF AUTHORITY! SO WHAT? WHAT ARE THE RESULTS?

                      Tell me, where do you live, in the city, in the countryside, who do you work with, if not a secret, how with housing, where did you relax, what was your salary, and if compared to 1999?
                      1. rapid turtle
                        rapid turtle 26 January 2018 20: 44
                        +8
                        Quote: Balu
                        and if compared to 1999?

                        The guys apparently didn’t live in those years, well, or they were children. That's why they are judged.
                      2. Svarog
                        Svarog 26 January 2018 20: 44
                        +6
                        Quote: Balu
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Quote: Balu
                        Do you still believe Grudinin?

                        And the more it is watered, the more I believe. I do not believe that when the Communists come to power, they will forget about their program of 20 steps and forget about their promises. I don’t believe that. And by this, Grudinin will come to power, I’m sure that everything will be fine. Moreover, I do not believe Putin and his friends. HE IS ALREADY 18 YEARS OF AUTHORITY! SO WHAT? WHAT ARE THE RESULTS?

                        Tell me, where do you live, in the city, in the countryside, who do you work with, if not a secret, how with housing, where did you relax, what was your salary, and if compared to 1999?

                        hahahah, well, they made fun. Why do you need so much information?
                      3. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 26 January 2018 20: 47
                        +7
                        Quote: Balu
                        Tell me where you live

                        That he wink
                        Quote: Balu
                        what is your occupation

                        A propagandist, essentially an agent of influence repeat
                        Quote: Balu
                        if it’s not a secret, what was the salary with housing, where did you relax, and if compared with 1999?

                        And this person does not like to answer specific questions laughing
                      4. Svarog
                        Svarog 26 January 2018 21: 31
                        +5
                        Quote: Balu
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Quote: Balu
                        Do you still believe Grudinin?

                        And the more it is watered, the more I believe. I do not believe that when the Communists come to power, they will forget about their program of 20 steps and forget about their promises. I don’t believe that. And by this, Grudinin will come to power, I’m sure that everything will be fine. Moreover, I do not believe Putin and his friends. HE IS ALREADY 18 YEARS OF AUTHORITY! SO WHAT? WHAT ARE THE RESULTS?

                        Tell me, where do you live, in the city, in the countryside, who do you work with, if not a secret, how with housing, where did you relax, what was your salary, and if compared to 1999?

                        I live in a city, annual income of 1480 000, traveled the whole world, in the 90s was an adult, independent person. Answered your ridiculous question, only in order to understand why this information is for you))
                      5. BARKHAN
                        BARKHAN 26 January 2018 22: 31
                        +8
                        Quote: Balu
                        Tell me, where do you live, in the city, in the countryside, who do you work with, if not a secret, how with housing, where did you relax, what was your salary, and if compared to 1999?

                        Why not since 1899?
                  2. Overlock
                    Overlock 26 January 2018 23: 12
                    +8
                    Quote: Balu
                    so you hope means Grudinin.

                    You know, colleague! I had hoped for Putin all these years, until I retired. With retirement, hope is dead
                  3. Esoteric
                    Esoteric 27 January 2018 08: 10
                    +5
                    Quote: Balu
                    Do you still believe Grudinin? Then remember Gaidar, Yavlinsky

                    Do you still believe Putin? Then remember Sobchak, Berezovsky, Abramovich, Borodin, Yeltsin, Chubais, Gaidar, Kirienko, Kudrin, Nabiullina, Rogozin with his “Motherland” and trampolines, Serdyukov, Vasiliev, Bilalovs ... What are you trying to correct us with? Wait another six years, so what? Shrug and say sorry, it just happened. Is Trump to blame? The political system of the whole of Europe has taken up arms against Russia, and you are teaching us to deftly avoid dodging. You trample along with Putin the sovereignty of Russia and blame us for not liking it. Yes, imagine, we don’t like living in shit, into which we are immersed deeper and with greater persistence and pleasure. We do not want to be “patience” in Putin’s built economic system. I absolutely do not care who is accused of the collapse of the USSR. I know that this happened because of betrayal and only enemies can not recognize this. In your lie to your own people, to Russian citizens, you have gone very far. Instead of somehow correcting the situation, you are trying to accuse us of political myopia, of the ugliness of our choice. We don’t erect monuments to the enemies of the Fatherland! We do not award embezzlers with orders and medals! Yes, the very title of Hero of Russia is so dubious that it can be awarded Serdyukov and Vasiliev for their services to the fatherland in disguising the revival of the RF Armed Forces.

                    You forgot about the promised 25 million high-tech jobs, which in turn stood up for the able-bodied population of Russia. You curse the West in our troubles, but build gas pipelines for them when people in Russia heat coal. You are offended by the Mistral and continue to shake hands with those who betrayed you. Your friends continue to build “there” yachts, villas, book airplanes for themselves, exclusive cars from “them”, and we are “told” to stay. So we hold (or rather we intended to hold) the fingers on the throat of the "heralds" of our bright future ...
                4. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 26 January 2018 20: 28
                  +4
                  Quote: Svarog
                  taking into account previous experience .. It will not improve immediately, but within 4 years everyone will notice improvements. Unless of course, Grudinin implements those 20 steps that are in the program.

                  Is this the one who squandered our money? And then the GDP was forced to write off debts? laughing
                5. vlad66
                  vlad66 26 January 2018 20: 36
                  13
                  Quote: Svarog
                  It will not improve immediately, but within 4 years everyone will notice improvements. Unless of course, Grudinin implements those 20 steps that are in the program.

                  I won’t argue, I won’t argue anything, just live and understand it yourself, everyone promises before the election, but if you don’t do it yourself and do it yourself, neither Grudinin, nor Putin, nor Trump will feed, neither under capitalism, nor under socialism. And I heard a lot of promises, believe in three cars and ten small carts yes And in general, fighters with the oligarchy choose the oligarch, funny however. hi
                  1. Esoteric
                    Esoteric 27 January 2018 08: 17
                    +1
                    Quote: vlad66
                    And in general, fighters with the oligarchy choose the oligarch, funny however.

                    You, at least, to improve political education read: "The oligarch is a very rich person who has many enterprises, business, money, and power through money."
                    What and to whom does Grudinin have power? So far, he is represented by the director of a high-income farm. But!!! stop He does not get this income from the budget, like Sechin, Miller and other "servants" yes
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 27 January 2018 13: 23
                      +5
                      Quote: Esoteric
                      He does not get this income from the budget, like Sechin, Miller ...

                      Oh how belay
                      "Sechin with Miller" - is it, you must understand, Rosneft with Gazprom?
                      Dear, these are budget-forming enterprises, dragging one.
                      That is not "they take from the budget", but "they ensure that the budget is filled"so that you understand it.
                      And what kind of garbage did you write again request
                6. Kent0001
                  Kent0001 26 January 2018 21: 01
                  +2
                  ..a, there it is ... Grudinin and his offshore companies are no better than FRIENDS. One field of berries.
                7. Morozyaka
                  Morozyaka 27 January 2018 00: 08
                  +2
                  The election campaign is currently prohibited. It seems to me that we and your curators are violating it consciously. 420 comments you have on completely different news and all about one thing - the sternum in the presenters. Even the delivery of German armored personnel carriers to the Baltic states comes down to your sternum. Come on, sir, everything is very straightforward. And after the law of January 1, to trace the chain and prove the fact of payment for such activity is a matter of technology. Are the curators not afraid?
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 27 January 2018 00: 24
                    +7
                    Quote: Morozyaka
                    The election campaign is currently prohibited. It seems to me that we and your curators are violating it consciously. 420 comments you have on completely different news and all about one thing - the sternum in the presenters. Even the delivery of German armored personnel carriers to the Baltic states comes down to your sternum. Come on, sir, everything is very straightforward. And after the law of January 1, to trace the chain and prove the fact of payment for such activity is a matter of technology. Are the curators not afraid?

                    haah well, trace the fact of payment)) here you amuse me today. Yes, it all comes down to my domestic politics - this is true. Because it interests me a little. And I worry about the future of my children and mine. So let's prove the fact of payment. Well, if they pay me extra money, then it's fine. I do not mind)) In how edrno nervous))
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 27 January 2018 00: 58
                      +6
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Svarog

                      On figs this trollar surrendered to you?
                      What they did to the country is understandable, practically, to everyone. Who is that, on the fix, timchenko? shamalov, hto this? Yakunin with kids and fur stores, why do we need this "banana" - a personal chef, where from?
                      I don’t understand why the president of the country, whom “the people really love,” either at the uralvagonzavod or gas, needs an excursion of 20 armored cars?
                      I don’t care about this manager? My friends don’t need it either, just as my relatives don’t need it either ..
                      Let the country live and develop!
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 27 January 2018 01: 14
                        +4
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        On figs this trollar surrendered to you?

                        Trolling a troll is fun))
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        What they did to the country is understandable, practically, to everyone. Who is that, on the fix, timchenko? shamalov, hto this? Yakunin with kids and fur stores, why do we need this "banana" - a personal chef, where from?

                        I'm afraid that not everyone else .. But many ..
                    2. Morozyaka
                      Morozyaka 27 January 2018 01: 02
                      +3
                      I am not a prosecutor to prove anything. But here something a lot of such "ideological" agitators appeared suddenly. Either you have a good idea, or they pay well.
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 27 January 2018 01: 20
                        +5
                        Quote: Morozyaka
                        I am not a prosecutor to prove anything. But here something a lot of such "ideological" agitators appeared suddenly. Either you have a good idea, or they pay well.

                        You at least learn Russian for a start, and then apply your deduction, intuition and analytical thinking))
                        Let me assume that you are 17-19 years old)) Guessed?
                      2. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 27 January 2018 08: 03
                        0
                        [quote = Svarog] You at least learn Russian for a startо, and then apply your deduction, intuition and analytical thinking)) [/ quote]
                        Anyway, you still need to step a little from the training manual so that Svarog doesn’t catch the eye wassat [quote = Svarog] So you scare away all the fish yes I put five for trying and two for knowing the subject laughing
                      3. BARKHAN
                        BARKHAN 27 January 2018 11: 17
                        +3
                        Quote: Morozyaka
                        I am not a prosecutor to prove anything. But here something a lot of such "ideological" agitators appeared suddenly. Either you have a good idea, or they pay well.

                        And did it not occur to you that others might just have a different view of the state system in the country?
                        "Navyavchaya" is you probably referring to "obsessive"?
                    3. vovanpain
                      vovanpain 27 January 2018 02: 04
                      +2
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Yes, it all comes down to my domestic politics - this is true.

                      You will live by one policy, the cuckoo can leave request There are many other entertainments in the world, however, for a change get carried away by something else, so friendly advice. If you want to accept, you want not, your pies. yes yes
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Trolling a troll is fun)
                      Ahhh if you troll, it will be fun too, it’s a double-edged sword wink wink As he comes around, he will respond.
                      Quote: Svarog
                      I'm afraid that not everyone else .. But many.

                      laughing Everyone decides for himself what his path is. yes But let's be respected without epithets
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      On figs this trollar surrendered to you?

                      Friendly Stroporezische request Well, I don’t recognize you, usually you conduct political debates culturally, politely and with dignity. request Hello Be drinks hi
                      1. Cube123
                        Cube123 27 January 2018 06: 32
                        +2
                        Quote: vovanpain

                        Friendly Stroporezische request Well, I don’t recognize you, usually you conduct political debates culturally, politely and with dignity. request Hello Be drinks hi

                        Friday. Well, I drank, and it happened laughing
                      2. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 27 January 2018 12: 09
                        +2
                        Quote: vovanpain
                        vovanpain

                        Hello, friend! hiThanks for the kind words drinks
                        "My God is harsh, fate is complex and my prison is my hut.
                        But even in my dense forest, a curve path progress has come.
                        Let it cool me, the soul of a miracle will ask now! "
                        Pissed me off yesterday here is one "type". Smart as a whole laughing
                        You know, it’s good when a person is adequate with arguments, but here .... what And only normal people are substituted for a ban. The boys do not drink for their own pockets, not for cookies, but for the Power insulting, for the Motherland!
                        Here is such a zagogulin repeat
                8. Burbon
                  Burbon 27 January 2018 09: 25
                  +2
                  Quote: Svarog
                  It will not improve immediately, but within 4 years, everyone will notice improvements

                  Already believed in communism .... Putin has been straightening the economy for 18 years .... and where is it? economy? ... And for the cheers-patriots - I’m writing not about politics, but about ECONOMY ... so again, there’s no reason to wait for manna from heaven ... I'm tired of everything ... I want to go to mihan on his planet ...
              2. mac789
                mac789 27 January 2018 01: 54
                +1
                And then what ... Nothing ... Kick up for prevention. Today I brought a couple from the tavern. Quite decent people. Forty-five thousand rubles a night were left for two in a tavern. My monthly salary from two jobs. From eight in the morning until two in the night. Seven days a week. In short, like Arkady Gaidar. "Oh, we drove Nikolka away, oh yeah, something is of little use ..."
              3. myrzilka
                myrzilka 27 January 2018 02: 13
                0
                No, of course. Life will not immediately become honey. But maybe we will start to respond adequately. Not even adequate, but stronger.
              4. Lelek
                Lelek 27 January 2018 18: 55
                0
                Quote: vlad66
                Will life improve immediately or will sanctions be lifted?

                hi
                Well, in “Europe” at least there is a “movement” for separating from US dictatorship and lifting European sanctions against the Russian Federation, which primarily harm “Europeans” themselves.
          2. hrych
            hrych 26 January 2018 20: 14
            10
            Quote: Anton Capucin
            And now, nothing, I can even afford a lot, though not all

            The reverse side of import substitution, in order to clear the import market of goods, the ruble is deliberately understated. It can already be stated that the process is successful and the Russian Federation has become self-sufficient. Therefore, sanctions for the layman were hardly noticeable, or rather, only in Obama’s imagination laughing You can compare this with Stalin's Industrialization in order to make the USSR self-sufficient in industry, you can compare it with Collectivization in order to make an independent country for food. Both of these events did allow the USSR to win the Great War and become a nuclear and space Superpower. Then Khrushchev again brought the country to hunger and upheaval, Brezhnev did build developed socialism, but the neo-Trotskyists and Gorby started Perestroika and killed the country. The difference is that import substitution for the people did not become, like Stalin's forced measures of tension for the people, there were no repressions of those who disagree, there was no driving of millions of people to a new place, etc. ... Well, the consumer basket fell a bit and all. Which you stated, but it allowed us to win the new nuclear missile race and defend our sovereignty. The altar of victory did not require much sacrifice, but some groan:
            Quote: 264
            And living for me, unlike you blessed ones, is not so good at all ... Tariffs, prices, gasoline ...

            As Chubais would say, they say did not fit into the market laughing And Gaidar would say, showing the picture: "M -
            marketing" wassat
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            1. Kent0001
              Kent0001 26 January 2018 21: 04
              +3
              Do not let you or your loved ones get seriously ill, or any other force majeure. Then we’ll talk, and yes, there’s enough for milk and even a type of “cheese” and everyone is happy. You are deeper, drip deeper.
          4. groks
            groks 26 January 2018 20: 45
            +4
            Tolerate to what? Before all stocks run out at all? Before real sanctions are announced, will they ban the sale of seed material, for example? And they will resume only if we elect a black sodomite president (in a completely democratic way!).
        2. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 26 January 2018 20: 06
          +8
          Quote: 264
          Vital, what planet do you live on? I’m here on planet Earth, RF. And I’m living, unlike you blessed ones, it’s not so good

          I live in Russia, in my own land, here is my homeland!
          And you are in the Russian Federation on planet Earth ..))) An interesting statement and many thoughts suggest .. wink
          Quote: 264
          Tariffs, prices, gasoline ... EVERYTHING in the price rises, regardless of the dollar exchange rate and the fluctuation of the price of oil, but with blood and then extracted by me ... Zadolba lo everything ... Take me to your Mars ... There everything is good for you ...

          Listen to more courses of "dollars" and the State Department Echo .. And you probably feel better, although we still have terrible roads in our Homeland, etc. , starving pensioners and most importantly, the "bloody regime of the Kremlin", which strangled the "true crap democracy and the voice of the masses in the 90s" ...
          I regret .. hi Run to Canada or Ukraine (then you can sign up as a victim of the "occupation of Russia" .. wink
          How did I paint the prospect then ..? he he
          1. Kent0001
            Kent0001 26 January 2018 21: 07
            +7
            No need to distort and troll those who describe the real difficulties of their daily survival. Everything is tied to the dollar, just everything, and I think that few listen to the echo of the State Department. If everything is fine outside your window, then you probably live in Moscow. And there, beyond the MKAD, many simply survive. And this is their daily state.
            1. MIKHAN
              MIKHAN 26 January 2018 21: 49
              +2
              Quote: Kent0001
              No need to distort and troll those who describe the real difficulties of their daily survival.

              Before the elections in Russia, the usual nagging begins (I constantly read it))
              It’s very difficult to live in Russia, don’t like it. negative
              Quote: Kent0001
              Everything is tied to the dollar, just everything, and I think that few listen to the echo of the State Department. If everything is fine outside your window, then you probably live in Moscow. And there, beyond the MKAD, many simply survive. And this is their daily state.

              In our South Urals, like many in Russia, the dollar has not meant anything for a long time (we just didn’t feel it and didn’t see it in the eyes, like in the days of the USSR))) It's like this one and you are constantly in dollars and rates scare ..
              It was not for nothing that CURRENCIES were shot in the USSR, as for treason against the Motherland!
              Now these are the "elite" and the shit ... damn it ..
              1. Burbon
                Burbon 27 January 2018 09: 36
                0
                Quote: MIKHAN
                It’s very difficult to live in Russia, don’t like it.

                ?? wassat fool with whom will you understand the country, eh? Vitalka ... with Dimka and Volodya?
                or alone? fool
                1. MIKHAN
                  MIKHAN 27 January 2018 09: 46
                  0
                  Quote: Burbon
                  Quote: MIKHAN
                  It’s very difficult to live in Russia, don’t like it.

                  ?? wassat fool with whom will you understand the country, eh? Vitalka ... with Dimka and Volodya?
                  or alone? fool

                  Well, just not with people like you a diver .. bully Do you study all the fish ..? Where did you get the money for all this? In Israel, the Dead Sea has not sailed yet ..? laughing
                  Say hello to Makarevich from Mikhan ..! hi
                  1. Burbon
                    Burbon 27 January 2018 09: 53
                    +1
                    Quote: MIKHAN
                    Well, not with people like you, a diver

                    Yes, like me, 65% of the population of my homeland!
                    Quote: MIKHAN
                    Do you study all the fish ..?

                    I hunt them - these are different things !!!!
                    Quote: MIKHAN
                    In Israel, the Dead Sea has not sailed yet

                    Why are you so sausages from Israel? .... Are you jealous ?? ... By the way in the Sea of ​​Mert - there is no fish - it is dead! wassat
                    Quote: MIKHAN
                    Where did you get the money for all this?

                    for what purpose are you interested in? ... I'm not only diving ... I still ski a lot and go hunting with a gun every weekend from October to January .... so what? it seems to me that I have a sponsor and it finances me and this is a young beautiful girl, the daughter of an oligarch (possibly Grudinina wassat ) laughing .....This is bad? wassat tongue
                    1. MIKHAN
                      MIKHAN 27 January 2018 10: 05
                      0
                      Quote: Burbon
                      for what purpose are you interested in? ... I'm not only diving ... I still ski a lot and go hunting with a gun every weekend from October to January .... so what?

                      Something to experience is necessary .. bully

                      I hope you hunt fish in the Arctic ..? lol
                      1. Burbon
                        Burbon 27 January 2018 10: 13
                        0
                        Quote: MIKHAN
                        I hope you hunt fish in the Arctic ..?

                        dived into the Laptev Sea in 2010 ... is this the Arctic? laughing
            2. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch 30 January 2018 00: 52
              0
              Quote: Kent0001
              And there, beyond the MKAD, many simply survive. And this is their daily state.

              I live right after the Moscow Ring Road. This is my everyday condition. I work almost every day. Self-employed, and not for uncle, or for this damn state (not to be confused with the Motherland). The flight is normal, it could be worse. If someone needs a tasty trough with grub and oink-oink in a warm puddle - definitely, it is necessary for the comrades from Russia to self-alleviate in search of a better share. In Australia, they say, not bad, the rivers there are dairy and the banks are sweet.
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          3. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 27 January 2018 21: 11
            0
            ....... khe-khe ... President Mikhan received Korolev yesterday .. oh, queen. England.
        3. Non liberoid Russian
          Non liberoid Russian 27 January 2018 04: 26
          +1
          take more booze and drugs and you will be happy ...
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 27 January 2018 21: 16
            0
            Quote: Not Liberoid Russian
            take more booze and drugs and you will be happy ...

            Hands off Meehan! And away from Eun’s hands. And from Mendeleev too. 40% to 60% (42 to 58 from practice at 95%) is our sacred. (Like, nobody knew before Mendeleev, huh. But he legalized.) drinks
      2. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 26 January 2018 19: 59
        +2
        Sanctions, so sanctions. Let's see what the answer will be.
      3. andr327
        andr327 26 January 2018 20: 31
        +1
        Vital, but do Americans advertise their agents of influence with these sanctions? It’s impossible to praise - we will scold them and curse them, and it’s kind of like to listen to their opinion, since the Americans are afraid of them.
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 26 January 2018 20: 55
          +1
          Quote: andr327
          and do not Americans advertise their agents of influence with these sanctions?

          With these sanctions, they want to bleed our country, worsen the financial situation of ordinary people! himself I solved this problem for them, changed the power (organized the Maidan, and with organization and money they will help to be spock) which does not bend before the West and its economic interests!
        2. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 26 January 2018 22: 02
          0
          Quote: andr327
          Vital, but do Americans advertise their agents of influence with these sanctions? It’s impossible to praise - we will scold them and curse them, and it’s kind of like to listen to their opinion, since the Americans are afraid of them.

          Or they can cover it, now it's hard to figure it out .. Some oligarchs even pay money. to be included in the list of sanctions .. hehe
          I remember that in civilian life everyone was drenched and nothing, the USSR became a world space power! Is it time to repeat? soldier
      4. Gardamir
        Gardamir 26 January 2018 20: 54
        +4
        Remember these surnames brothers ..!
        They remembered Aga Rogozin, so he began to fight against Russia. Either the workers at the construction will be taken over, or the satellites will drown.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 26 January 2018 21: 57
          +1
          Quote: Gardamir
          Remember these surnames brothers ..!
          They remembered Aga Rogozin, so he began to fight against Russia. Either the workers at the construction will be taken over, or the satellites will drown.

          Ну your talkers only in the swamp one can also gather near the US Embassy for grants and visas for emigration as "victims of the bloody Putin regime" ... laughing bully “We’ve been observing for 25 years, but don’t scatter everything! Didn’t they all ruin and plunder yet to see in Russia?
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 26 January 2018 19: 36
      12
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      So that you don’t have a bottom or tires, I ask you to multiply the answer by two, with a margin.

      Stirlitz! don't worry, you are not on the list. yes
      Don’t worry about these
      We are talking, in particular, about the representatives of Russian business and government. This, for example, the head of one of the departments of the Ministry of Energy Evgeny Grabchak, Deputy Minister of Energy Andrei Cherezov.

      They already have enough for three generations.
      1. 264
        264 26 January 2018 19: 47
        +7
        So everything is not enough for them ... It would seem that it’s enough ... But no ... How did it get all this .............
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 26 January 2018 20: 06
          +6
          Quote: 264
          So everything is not enough for them ... It would seem, that's enough ... But no ..

          Oreshkin in Davos to the bourgeois said: "I can’t sleep at night, I think about the welfare of the people"
          I want to find him and calm the shafts! am
          Quote: 264
          .How did all this get .............

          1. 264
            264 26 January 2018 20: 12
            +4
            good good good Ohhhh, Desantura !!! Greetings from the Fleet !!!!! drinks hi hi hi
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 26 January 2018 20: 18
              +6
              Moremanam! physical education hello !!! good drinks
              I'm looking at quotes from "Davos" .... our "activists"
              I immediately remembered how many cartridges are in the “zinc”, even introduced to the touch and realized - “zinc” may not be enough sad
              1. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 26 January 2018 22: 42
                +3
                Quote: Stroporez
                I immediately remembered how many cartridges are in the “zinc”, even introduced to the touch and realized - “zinc” may not be enough

                Just a bunch of them at the wall must be arranged ....
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 27 January 2018 00: 09
                  +4
                  Quote: Barkhan
                  It’s just that you have to put them together at the wall

                  approximately will look like this

                  and those who do not understand ..... will be completely ugly faces yes
              2. Esoteric
                Esoteric 27 January 2018 08: 32
                +2
                Quote: Stroporez
                I immediately remembered how many cartridges are in the “zinc”, even introduced to the touch and realized - “zinc” may not be enough

                1080 is not enough? And if you put in the back of one another? They do not need to spend bullets, they must be forced to work ... physically ... yes
    3. vlad66
      vlad66 26 January 2018 19: 37
      +8
      The US Treasury announced the introduction of a new package of anti-Russian sanctions

      Well and then what belay A trump weakly sanction repeat because the agent of the Kremlin all the same. fellow
    4. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 26 January 2018 20: 05
      +2
      "" "The United States" fights terrorism "in 76 countries. Washington began the" war on terrorism "in 2001.
      In the new U.S. military strategy, introduced by Secretary of Defense James Mattis on January 19, 2018, the U.S. Army will switch from fighting terrorism to confronting the increase in military power in China and Russia over the next few years. Such a sharp turnaround, according to the minister, is caused by the new reality in connection with the "growth of global instability and uncertainty in the context of the struggle between countries for influence." According to the Pentagon chief, Washington will continue to campaign against terrorists, but the focus of the US national security strategy will be competition between powerful powers, not terrorism. "
      http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/infographics/voennoe_
      prisutstvie_ssha_v_stranah_mira_infografika
      That's the point of all of them .. bites .. sanctions
    5. Mih1974
      Mih1974 27 January 2018 08: 02
      0
      I have long been offering retaliatory sanctions - a) to freeze the assets of American companies in the oil and gas sector, from the food and medical industries, b) 9000% of the duty on all American cars and American auto parts, c) an extra delivery until the uranium fuel supplies are ordered to the United States. good
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 26 January 2018 19: 31
    +7
    ... The US Treasury announced the introduction of a new package of anti-Russian sanctions ...
    ... individual experts called ... .... sanctions for the sake of sanctions ...

    Not the Ministry of Finance, but the furious copier, right ...
    The most important thing is that experts should not be completely confused - where are the sanctions for sanctions, where the sanctions are not for sanctions, where just sanctions, and where they didn’t want, but they had to sanction ...
    US Treasury Secretary Stephen Mnuchin has room to grow - there are a lot of emergency ahead of him not under sanctions, and the staff is far beyond 140 million. The Ministry of Finance is provided with work for the near and near future ...
    1. Morozyaka
      Morozyaka 27 January 2018 01: 11
      +1
      It's not about personalities. Here are Surgutneftegaz dragged. Now foreign service companies will have difficulties with them, which means that Surgutneftegas will also have difficulties. Not all technologies can be offered by Russian companies now. Plus problems with lending. All this will lead to a decrease in the rate of development ... And personalities are like that, a screen. Everything is directed against the oil industry and industry
  3. pvv113
    pvv113 26 January 2018 19: 33
    +7
    In response, sanctions against North Korea must be completely lifted, and the Chinese should also be asked
    1. Korax71
      Korax71 26 January 2018 19: 47
      +3
      If the Chinese had x hotels, then they would have weakened or lifted sanctions from the DPRK long ago. After all, this is their neighbor. I don’t think that our authorities will do this.
    2. Dashout
      Dashout 26 January 2018 19: 52
      +9
      Quote: pvv113
      In response, sanctions against North Korea must be completely lifted, and the Chinese should also be asked

      I think this is the right approach! To help North Korea plus, moreover, heed the advice of Kostin (VTB) and recall the ambassador (his) from the Amer - send!
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 26 January 2018 20: 07
        +3
        There is no logic in the actions of the USA, all attempts, no matter how absurd and demented they seem, are sent to the detriment of Russia. So we should hit them with their own weapons of stupidity
        1. Logall
          Logall 26 January 2018 20: 13
          12
          Volodya, there will be no symmetrical answers! There will be some nonsense aimed at third parties ... So that citizens can see that they are responding ... Well, of course, Lavrov will take care!
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 26 January 2018 21: 00
            +3
            symmetrical answers and will not be!

            Hello Sasha! Yes it’s me, I’ve dreamed
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 26 January 2018 20: 24
          +5
          Quote: pvv113
          There is no logic in the actions of the USA, all attempts, no matter how absurd and demented they seem, are sent to the detriment of Russia. So we should hit them with their own weapons of stupidity

          The logic is simple - pressure on business and the elite to eliminate GDP from the presidency, the destruction of the economy, isolation. Russia has become sovereign and influential since 2000, if anyone has forgotten or does not know the 90s.
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 26 January 2018 21: 03
            +3
            Quote: Balu
            Russia has become sovereign and influential since 2000, if anyone has forgotten or does not know the 90s.

            And most importantly, she stopped giving her resources for thanks! And this is arrogance in the understanding of the Anglo-Saxons! hi
        3. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 26 January 2018 22: 46
          +3
          Quote: pvv113
          There is no logic in US actions

          There is. This is a war. So long as this is such a form.
    3. Kent0001
      Kent0001 26 January 2018 21: 09
      0
      There is the decision of the COUNCIL, we can not and the Chinese, too, and it’s not worth it.
  4. Observer2014
    Observer2014 26 January 2018 19: 34
    11
    Did one of me have a wild desire to go on a face with these 46 sizes? Togo frame with a photo for the article. winked
    1. Iaaa
      Iaaa 26 January 2018 19: 41
      10
      Quote: Observer2014
      there was a wild desire to go on a face with this

      A lot of honor, clean then. Enough of this

      this frame with a photo.
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K 26 January 2018 19: 43
      10
      Observer2014 hi
      ... One of me had a wild desire to go on a face with these 46 sizes? ...

      Don't get dirty shoes laughing
      There is a special device for this:
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 26 January 2018 19: 51
        +5
        Andrey K E. soldier Americans monitoring our site will be wondering what all this means wassat laughing They do not understand the emotional Russian impulse. Looks at the smug physiognomy of their Minister of Finance.
        1. Rurikovich
          Rurikovich 26 January 2018 20: 15
          +2
          Quote: Observer2014
          Americans monitoring our site will be wondering what all this means

          Americans do not have enough brains to monitor yes To monitor means to think ... To think, then to analyze ... To analyze, then ... aaa .... mmm .... cognitive dissonance sets in ... As a result, thoughts come to mind laughing
        2. Andrey K
          Andrey K 26 January 2018 20: 32
          +7
          Observer2014
          ... They do not understand the emotional Russian impulse ...

          Sergei!!!
          So we are exceptionally healthy for.
          For the sake of their great, mattress mental state.
          We'll slap along the cabbage soup, you will look and the remnants of the swimming cerebellum will begin to think something, from the nirvana of exceptionalism to the sinful land they will return laughing
        3. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 26 January 2018 22: 53
          +3
          Quote: Observer2014
          Andrey K Evgenievich Americans monitoring our site will be wondering what all this means. They don’t understand the emotional Russian impulse. Looks at the smug physiognomy of their Minister of Finance.

          Well, it means you have to sign the pictures ... Andrei Evgenievich has a secret anti-aircraft defense ... And you, the namesake has high-precision weapons of a selective type, can also serve as throwing weapons of a limited radius of action .... Moreover, Konstantin also has a doublet ...
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 26 January 2018 19: 58
      +9
      [quote = Observer 2014] I have one had a wild desire to go on a face with this 46 sizes? Togo frame with a photo for the article. winked[/ quote
      Some strange feeling arises when all sanctions are imposed on us, in fact, under normal state, and we should not notice this .. We are completely self-sufficient! But our government, could not do anything, neither industry, nor science, education, medicine, the pharmaceutical industry, but wherever you take it .. trouble is everywhere .. With this boot they would all be kicked, that would be brought down from the country .. THE RICHEST AND BIG COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ..
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 26 January 2018 21: 12
        +4
        Quote: Svarog
        Some strange feeling arises when all sanctions are imposed on us, in fact, under normal state, and we should not notice this .. We are completely self-sufficient! But our government, could not do anything, neither industry, nor science, education, medicine, the pharmaceutical industry, but wherever you take it .. trouble is everywhere .. With this boot they would all be kicked, that would be brought down from the country .. THE RICHEST AND BIG COUNTRY IN THE WORLD

        Here are all the prowlers with this boot, so that the brains fall into place. That's about medicine is not necessary, I’ve been in it since 1980, not counting work while studying. And now the work is related to quality assessment. There are pain points, but medicine is developing. attention is paid to this, funding is inadequate, but it can be solved.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 26 January 2018 21: 50
          +8
          Quote: Balu
          Here are all the prowlers with this boot, so that the brains fall into place. That's about medicine is not necessary, I’ve been in it since 1980, not counting work while studying. And now the work is related to quality assessment. There are pain points, but medicine is developing. attention is paid to this, funding is inadequate, but it is also solvable

          Hahaha do you think we have free medicine left? Is medicine developing? I will not bother and give sad examples .. But you are clearly well, you can see the place is warm. We have an operation in less than 10 tons. They don’t do it, they say it’s in the queue .. but in the queue you still can’t survive .. Are you one of those?
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 26 January 2018 23: 31
            0
            no, it’s just that everything is different in Tatarstan than in Russia
            1. Baloo
              Baloo 27 January 2018 08: 28
              +2
              Quote: Overlock
              no, it’s just that everything is different in Tatarstan than in Russia

              Better than somewhere in Russia.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock 27 January 2018 10: 23
                0
                exact wording
            2. Svarog
              Svarog 27 January 2018 09: 35
              +3
              Quote: Overlock
              no, it’s just that everything is different in Tatarstan than in Russia

              And I'm just about Tatarstan ..))
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 28 January 2018 15: 23
                +1
                Quote: Svarog
                Quote: Overlock
                no, it’s just that everything is different in Tatarstan than in Russia

                And I'm just about Tatarstan ..))

                We have job fairs regularly. For one officially unemployed person 4 vacancies both with higher education and drivers. There are vacancies for leadership positions. In my memory, last year 6 new industries were opened in the republic, I pass two each time on the way to the country, and how much I really didn’t count.
              2. Baloo
                Baloo 28 January 2018 16: 49
                +1
                Svarog
                Quote: Overlock
                no, it’s just that everything is different in Tatarstan than in Russia
                And I'm just about Tatarstan ..))


                [Quote
                The opening ceremony for the pool for residents of the housing estate was attended by President of the Republic of Tatarstan Rustam Minnikhanov and President of the International Swimming Federation (FINA) Julio Maglione.
                The president of the Federation of Diving in the Russian Federation, the President of the Federation of Synchronized Swimming, the Federation of Water Polo, and the member of the Technical Committee (Diving) of the International Swimming Federation (FINA) Alexei Vlasenko at the opening ceremony of the Rocket Swimming Pool in Derbyshki, named Kazan the capital of Russia. At the same time, on the morning of January 26, another new Dulkyn pool was opened in the village of Baltasi.
                [/ Quote]
                This is the question that "Tatarstan is not Russia", everything is bad, etc. etc. especially for the worshipers of Navralny and Grudinin such as these:
                Yeah, Russia is isolated, everyone does not like Russia, the cat left kittens and other rubbish.
          2. Baloo
            Baloo 27 January 2018 08: 27
            +2
            Quote: Svarog
            We have an operation in less than 10 tons. They don’t do it, they say it’s in the queue .. but in the queue you still can’t survive .. Are you one of those?

            1. You may be so. The system of paid services is not from a good life. Personally, it has always been unpleasant for me.
            2. I'm not one of those. I never expected anything from anyone, I did not ask. Thanked, said thanks.
            "Those" I do not blame, not the salary for labor.
    4. Baloo
      Baloo 26 January 2018 20: 25
      +3
      Quote: Observer2014
      Did one of me have a wild desire to go on a face with these 46 sizes? Togo frame with a photo for the article. winked

      good drinks wassat yes
    5. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 26 January 2018 20: 34
      +9
      Quote: Observer2014
      Did one of me have a wild desire to go on a face with these 46 sizes? Togo frame with a photo for the article. winked

      Is there a second? Under the following sanctions. smile
      1. Thirty-eight parrots
        Thirty-eight parrots 26 January 2018 20: 59
        10
        Quote: ul_vitalii
        Is there a second? Under the following sanctions.

        And we are a slipper
  5. Iaaa
    Iaaa 26 January 2018 19: 35
    +3
    It’s very interesting and I would like to ask this beacon of shit democracy and part-time Minister of Finance Stephen Mnuchin as head of one of the departments of the Ministry of Energy Yevgeny Grabchak and Deputy Minister of Energy Andrei Cherezov. Undermine the Minsk agreements? Is there no electricity for Bandera?
    1. faiver
      faiver 26 January 2018 19: 52
      +1
      I'm also interested in specifics hi
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 26 January 2018 23: 00
      +2
      Quote: Iaaa
      Is there no electricity for Bandera?

      The theme is such that this time they "sanctioned" those who, in their opinion, ensured the supply of Siemens turbines to Crimea. Something like this. Well, it was expected. The hammers have nothing new. yes
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 27 January 2018 06: 52
        +1
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Quote: Iaaa
        Is there no electricity for Bandera?

        The theme is such that this time they "sanctioned" those who, in their opinion, ensured the supply of Siemens turbines to Crimea. Something like this. Well, it was expected. The hammers have nothing new. yes

        Do they begin to encourage open sabotage?
  6. Anton Capucin
    Anton Capucin 26 January 2018 19: 35
    +3
    They can’t accept a class budget, but sanctions ... but easy. My respect, gentlemen are good.))
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 January 2018 19: 37
    +2
    This is zilch! Not really like that. Afraid of angering Europe?
  8. faterdom
    faterdom 26 January 2018 19: 37
    +3
    for another 21 citizens of the Russian Federation

    Wow, it eased ... And then I thought - all of a sudden on the 22nd or even scary to think - on the 23rd!
  9. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 26 January 2018 19: 43
    +2
    I also want sanctioned. What kind of discrimination? If not a deputy minister, is he already unworthy? Right now I’ll write a statement to the Human Rights Court. There are millions of us !!! Those wishing to join!
    1. faiver
      faiver 26 January 2018 19: 53
      +2
      don't want to pay taxes? laughing
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 26 January 2018 20: 27
      +2
      Quote: Michael m
      I also want sanctioned. What kind of discrimination? If not a deputy minister, is he already unworthy? Right now I’ll write a statement to the Human Rights Court. There are millions of us !!! Those wishing to join!

      I join, because I'm worse. True, I have fat and no real estate across the river, some debts, but I also want to be on the list of enemies of America. angry
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 26 January 2018 23: 29
        +2
        so you have long been under sanctions, just did not notice! Look at the prices and you will see them. But taxes must be paid!
        Yesterday I was at the tax office - a man was cursing, he received a notice of payment of tax for the garage. The amount impressed even the tax-2 million rubles a year. There you go! And you are sanctions, sanctions. They are already here and now ..
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 27 January 2018 08: 29
          +1
          Quote: Overlock
          Yesterday I was at the tax office - a man was cursing, he received a notice of payment of tax for the garage. The amount impressed even the tax-2 million rubles a year.

          Does he have something in the area of ​​Red Square? Rather, a technical error.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 27 January 2018 10: 22
            +1
            Of course a mistake, but the tax authorities do not want to correct it. a peasant needs to go to court.
  10. Masya masya
    Masya masya 26 January 2018 19: 45
    +3
    the more you say sanctions, sanctions, sanctions ... it does not become more sanctioned ... wink
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 26 January 2018 19: 58
      +6
      Marina love as a response, I propose to appoint Zhirinovsky in the United States as either the ambassador or the UN permanent representative! lol To the State Department from our appointment hiccups tortured! !! lol good
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 26 January 2018 20: 09
        +1
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Marina love as a response, I propose to appoint in the United States either the Ambassador or the UN Permanent Representative Zhirinovsky!

        Well yes... what He suggested washing his feet in the Indian Ocean .... And in the Atlantic what? Wash the ports ?? request Then certainly Kondraty enough "partners" wassat
  11. Masya masya
    Masya masya 26 January 2018 19: 52
    +6
    "Because of the situation in Ukraine"

    The more figurative things are in the country, the more “wine” of Russia ...
  12. Herculesic
    Herculesic 26 January 2018 19: 52
    +3
    We really need to introduce a new reckoning “the third year from the imposition of sanctions, the thirtieth year from the imposition of sanctions”! lol
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya 26 January 2018 20: 05
      +5
      Vitalievich, howdy there! love
      year 2018 from the imposition of sanctions! laughing no, to be introduced forever, so no, it’s necessary to imitate a seething activity ... like they eat bread for nothing ...
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 26 January 2018 20: 23
        +3
        Our grandchildren about the United States will sabotage the true film "Sanction Warden"! lol good
  13. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 26 January 2018 19: 52
    +3
    Three Hooray !!! I’ll go to the joys of a hundred grams of pepper! Well, life-giving sanctions! At least some benefit from the USA happens!
  14. Nemesis
    Nemesis 26 January 2018 19: 57
    +5
    It’s time for Russia to introduce the strictest visa regime with the countries of the former scoop, because they are all sick with Russophobia ... Enough of them to take money out of the Russian Federation, let the United States feed them if they want, but no, that’s not Russia's problem ..
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 26 January 2018 20: 05
      +6
      Quote: Nemesis
      . Enough to them to export money from the Russian Federation,

      This money is taken out of the Russian Federation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f15zHVSey4
    2. Alex-a832
      Alex-a832 26 January 2018 20: 11
      +4
      Why only with the countries of the former USSR and the Warsaw Pact? It is necessary to limit the departure to all countries that have announced sanctions to us.
    3. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 26 January 2018 20: 11
      +2
      Quote: Nemesis
      It is time for Russia to introduce the strictest visa regime with the countries of the former scoop, for they are all sick with Russophobia ...

      Come on!!!!! fool negative
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 26 January 2018 21: 09
        +1
        Not okay, but enough to go round Russia! If yours, in Minsk, shout about equal rights with the Russian Federation, let them pay the budget, supposedly of a union state, by 50%, and not by 1/3, as it is today ... Do you want half the rights ?! Then pay half the costs! And for me, you are not allies to us at all, and there’s nothing to spend money on you ... Your Lukashenko has banned the film Crimea and St. George’s film in Belarus, instead of it you now have a tape in the colors of the state flag, with an apple tree flower, which made it perfectly clear that Russia has nothing good to expect from Minsk, but even less so from your red-white Bandera opposition ...
        1. Rurikovich
          Rurikovich 26 January 2018 21: 19
          +6
          Quote: Nemesis
          And for me, you are not allies to us at all, and there’s nothing to spend money on you ..

          request From bile did not choke? wink
          Because of such "patriots like you, everyone is fleeing from you ... what
          Quote: Nemesis
          Your Lukashenko has banned the film Crimea and St. George’s tape in Belarus, instead of it you now have a tape in the colors of the state flag, with a flower of an apple tree, which made it clear that Russia has nothing good to expect from Minsk,

          Have you been with us? Personally, I’m constantly observing not green-red, such as you painted for yourself, but St. George’s ribbons tongue
          Quote: Nemesis
          and from your red-white Bandera opposition and even more so ...

          Stop spraying poison already, brother fool Our "opposition" among the population is at the level of statistical error! And if you and others like you set it as an example to everyone, then you are no better than this opposition negative
          PS And we don’t like you, so collect signatures against whatever you have, but still an ally (not only ours, but you have enough fleas), so we will go to the West, and for that you will be proud and lonely, and not who will kick on .... PS Though a cry of the soul, but personally on you negative
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 26 January 2018 21: 25
            +1
            The USSR was destroyed by nationalities and all because they snickered ... The same subsidized Ukraine was told in the USSR that it allegedly feeds the entire USSR ... Here, cut off the loot from Russia and see who feeds whom ... I have no relatives in the republics of Russophobia sick the former scoop is not required ... The only allies of Russia are its army and navy ... And such as Lukashenko, who have two asses with one ass, these are not allies ... You have not an allied relationship with Russia, but consumer attitude...
            1. Rurikovich
              Rurikovich 26 January 2018 21: 39
              +6
              Quote: Nemesis
              In the same subsidized Ukraine, the USSR was convinced that it allegedly feeds the entire USSR

              Dear, open the statistics on the period of the USSR and the amazing news will open for you that the BSSR together with the RSFSR were the only republics that subsidized, but were not subsidized yes !!!
              And if there are still brains in the victims of the USE, it will become clear that no matter how Lukashenko was, he entered into an alliance with Russia (on what conditions is another question) in order to preserve the USSR’s legacy — factories, factories, etc. .! and if you are no longer extorted from your own ambition, then understand one thing that what we have left is the legacy of the USSR, and not the dismantling of the oligarchs tongue that you have everywhere. Therefore, instead of blaming others, see what you have going on!
              And before condemning others. put yourself in their place. We do this, therefore, we try to maintain at least something, despite the changes around !!! And if simple elementary truths do not reach anyone, then forward, under the banner of nationalism. To each his own hi
              Ps Only then, scared looking at the world because of the fence, do not blame others. ..
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 26 January 2018 21: 41
                0
                I didn’t pass the Unified State Examination, and Lukashenko’s attitude towards Russia is purely consumer, not allied ... I don’t see the connection between the factories and the ban on the film Crimea in Belarus .... Until 1940, dogs and Ukrainians were not allowed to go on trams in Lviv. ..We will live without you, and you, in Poland, walk again ...
                1. Rurikovich
                  Rurikovich 26 January 2018 22: 06
                  +5
                  Quote: Nemesis
                  . I do not see the connection between the factories and the ban of the film Crimea

                  Film calmly watched request
                  Quote: Nemesis
                  in Belarus.

                  in Belarus (it is possible in your manner - in Belarus laughing )
                  Quote: Nemesis
                  .We will live without you, and you, in Poland, walk again ...

                  Okay, I was born in the USSR, I graduated from school 4-5 (almost a Soviet school), but to throw such phrases and not know what the flag is at the moment in Belarus

                  looks like this, and the flag of Poland looks like this

                  That method of comparison and not passing the exam

                  Quote: Nemesis
                  I did not pass the exam,

                  it will become clear that in your posts there is more hatred (nationalism, ambition, etc.) than common sense request
                  To each his own... request
                  1. Nemesis
                    Nemesis 27 January 2018 08: 30
                    0
                    I also graduated from a Soviet school, I have three diplomas, but unlike the old people, I don’t have shovel in my head and after Russian refugees began to come to the Russian Federation from the republics of the former scoop, I realized that - Everything that I was taught in the scoop was a lie ... I have my own country - Russia, and all Soviet republics, for me, are foreigners suffering from Russophobia ... I don’t need to show the Polish flag to me, I know it well without you and you know very well what Belarusian red-white I write to you, and you know better than me that under the red-white flags in Belarus Nazis-Russophobes-Bandera fly and their flag is not Polish ... Not a single person from the former republics of the scoop has the right to reproach Russians for nationalism after what you yourself did to scoops with Russians in the former republics of the scoop ... Only patients with soviet propaganda do not want to notice frank Russophobia in the scoop republics, and if they see it, they have the audacity to blame Russia, or some supposedly bandits, but not state anti-Russian politics the wounds of the former scoop ...
                    1. Rurikovich
                      Rurikovich 27 January 2018 08: 44
                      +1
                      Quote: Nemesis
                      Not a single person from the former republics of the scoop has the right to reproach the Russians for nationalism after what you yourself did with the Russians in the former republics of the scoop.

                      And what have we done with the Russians in Belarus? what
                      Quote: Nemesis
                      I also graduated from a Soviet school, I have three diplomas, but unlike the old people, I don’t have shovel in my head and after Russian refugees began to come to the Russian Federation from the republics of the former scoop, I realized that - Everything that I was taught in the scoop was a lie

                      Looks like the 90s left such a trace in your memory that it’s unbearable to remain just a person? winked request
                      1. Nemesis
                        Nemesis 27 January 2018 08: 49
                        0
                        You haven’t done anything with the Russians yet, but the fact that Belarus will end like Ukraine will be more than obvious to me. Your red-and-white will suit you the Maidan, and Lukashenko, who even banned the film Crimea in Belarus, which was very harmless and greatly softened compared to reality, has repeatedly shown his face with Russophobia ... Minsk’s whole policy towards Russia sounds like so - give Russia money ... and when Russia needs something, then there immediately follows a refusal and screams that Minsk is supposed to be an independent state ... If such independent people live on their own money, it’s enough to go round Russia!
                      2. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 27 January 2018 09: 47
                        +2
                        Quote: Rurikovich
                        And what have we done with the Russians in Belarus?

                        I would not advise you to argue with a stubborn subject, he is sick and this is for a long time! He is not a scoop and that’s it lol And note: He’s not ashamed to be Russian! By this he insults us Russians! I’m proud that I am Russian, but he’s not ashamed! So he has something to be ashamed of? I asked him such a question but didn’t receive an answer request And the guys are working so transparently, tearing our society apart, pushing their foreheads together! My opinion is that the union will be reborn (in one form or another), since we have no other choice, we are simply knocked down (collective west)! Moreover, we are one people, God himself commanded to stick together hi Don’t listen - the people of Russia have always been, are and will be together with the Belarusian and Ukrainian people, if not territorially, then in the soul for sure!
                    2. Rurikovich
                      Rurikovich 27 January 2018 08: 50
                      +1
                      Quote: Nemesis
                      I have my own country - Russia, and all the Soviet republics, for me, are foreigners suffering from Russophobia.

                      I am more Russian than you with your sick phobias. And instead of raking everyone together (which is very much like the views in Germany of the 30s - do I need to give examples to a person with three diplomas? wink ), it would be concrete to figure out who is worthy of your hatred, and whom you insult in vain hi
                      Both you and we have imbeciles, this is how the world works - without evil there will be no good. It’s right if you purposefully find the basement where the garbage is collected and provoke them, you will get what you want. And this is already projecting onto the whole people. As a result, we get an explicit "phoba"
                      It is easier to relate to life - not everything is so bad in relation to the Russians here, as you drew wink
                      1. Nemesis
                        Nemesis 27 January 2018 08: 57
                        0
                        I would be Russian, I would live in Russia ... But Germany fought against Russia in the same way that Ukraine is fighting now and when none of the local, and even more so the authorities, organized pogroms of the Russian population in Baku, Osh, Odessa, Alma-Ata they came to the defense of the Russians ... So I don’t need to rewrite shovels' tales ... It was shovels political politicians who asked the German prisoners in 1941 - Why did the German proletariat fight against the USSR ?! For me, the answer to such a question is absolutely clear ... Today ALL of Ukraine pays taxes on the ATO, ALL without exception ... If you do not participate in the genocide of the Russian people with your own hands, then they support it financially with you, with your red-white Nazis and banned even St. George’s tape and the film Crimea Lukashenko, will soon be the same ... But on the fence, which people like to write about, I already answered you - Nobody canceled the restitution of crescents, soon walk like Ukrainians in Lviv until 1940 ...
              2. mihey
                mihey 26 January 2018 22: 43
                +2
                Leave it - do not understand. But she doesn’t want to know. And, probably, who such Nemesis is not in the know (at least, its real functions).
                1. Nemesis
                  Nemesis 27 January 2018 08: 34
                  0
                  It’s like you don’t understand what country they live in, because your Putin continues to spend Russian money in Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan, as if Russia has no problems of its own ... Independent states should live at their own expense, and not at the expense of Russia!
          2. Northern warrior
            Northern warrior 27 January 2018 03: 28
            +2
            Go west already. Chubaty stupid people also wanted to become Geyropeytsami, and became Somalis. I do not like Russia - start licking the EU asshole, but then don’t whine when they throw you.
  15. Anton Capucin
    Anton Capucin 26 January 2018 20: 05
    +3
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Anton Capucin
    Quote: 264
    Vital, what planet do you live on? I’m here on planet Earth, RF. And, unlike you, blessed ones, life is not so good for me ... Tariffs, prices, gasoline ... EVERYTHING in price rises, regardless of the dollar and oil fluctuations ... Zadolba lo everything ... Take me to your Mars ... Everything is fine with you ...

    You probably didn’t know, but at the beginning of the crisis we have a free ruble, and wondering that oil is expensive, and that our ruble cannot win back much against the dollar, it’s definitely not worth it. Otherwise, we would have eaten all the gold. It is a matter of the country's survival or whether we will live well. It’s better for me to endure, although my salary has fallen by a factor of 2. Well, nothing, in my childhood I also didn’t very curly live sometimes on porridge with bread. And now, nothing, I can even afford a lot, though not all))

    That's the ficus that only people suffer, and the elite is becoming richer and the economy is investing money in a trap. Against this background, I do not want to endure, I want to kick the guarantor with his friends out with kicks ..

    I will tell you that capitalism itself assumes this. Moreover, this trash is happening everywhere in the world. The leftist still lives in me, I just have not become so radical. Apparently until everyone is driven into world slavery, everyone will be told that leftist ideas are bad. I am amused by another everyone wants socialism under capitalism. Do you want the state to take care of you, change your direction, or pay taxes 3 times more. Everything is up to you. All that is worth the price.))
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 26 January 2018 21: 18
      +5
      Quote: Anton Capucin
      Moreover, this trash is happening everywhere in the world.

      It’s not true, or rather, it’s happening yes, but the elite is doing it. And the people, according to many different polls, are very attracted to socialism. As an example, in America, a survey was conducted among young people regarding the form of state they would like to live with. The answers struck everyone; 74% of young people would like to live under socialism.
      Quote: Anton Capucin
      The leftist still lives in me, I just have not become so radical.

      Radical is communism. I believe that communism is utopia, albeit beautiful. It does not take into account the main basic principle of human psychology. Own property. I am for socialism, for this I do not consider myself radical. Why do we need a state if it gives nothing to man? And only shears taxes from him, as from a ram, some of which are then stolen.
      Quote: Anton Capucin
      Apparently until everyone is driven into world slavery, everyone will be told that left ideas are bad

      Yes, everything’s going to that ... Considering how technologies are developing and everyone and everything can be controlled ... It bothers me very much ..
      Quote: Anton Capucin
      I am amused by another everyone wants socialism under capitalism. Do you want the state to take care of you, change your direction, or pay taxes 3 times more. Everything is up to you. All that is worth the price.))

      You're wrong. See how Libya was built under Gaddafi and what kind of social program it was. And in Libya, only oil is all. You remember the USSR, and so, the USSR fed half the world, and we also had an army that was excessive in number, only by cutting costs in these articles would people live much better under the USSR. And if we added to this the opportunity to run our own business, small, medium, then the whole world would envy us.
  16. samarin1969
    samarin1969 26 January 2018 20: 08
    +3
    Someone on the site very appropriately drew an analogy to Churchill's words about war and shame. Here came the next, from April 2014, a dose of shame. It is clear that the price of lifting the sanctions is surrender.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 26 January 2018 20: 42
      +4
      samarin1969
      Someone on the site very appropriately drew an analogy to Churchill's words about war and shame. Here came the next, from April 2014, a dose of shame. It is clear that the price of lifting the sanctions is surrender.
      Back in 2014, this someone spent bully
      Observer2014 22 June 2014 02: 15 | Another battle on the border with Russia
      at the Kremlin, daughters in England live like no one can help. yes what kind of help is there to defend yourself the problem is suddenly America scolds. THE LEADER OF A COUNTRY TRYING TO AVOID WAR BY THE SHAME SHALL GET AND SHAME AND WAR!
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 26 January 2018 20: 55
        +2
        hi Yes, dear, you were right. And even then I could not believe ... HOW much - they are right.
      2. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 26 January 2018 21: 43
        +7
        Quote: Observer2014
        ... daughters ... not like not climbing ...

        Survived ... losers on the Internet read the leader of the state morality negative
        Prophets, damn it.
  17. DPN
    DPN 26 January 2018 20: 15
    +4
    As they used to say at some times, you need to share with the people, but no, so Trump will punish.
    One hell almost live on potatoes.
  18. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 26 January 2018 20: 21
    +2
    Well? Ready for sanctions for decades? They will never be removed and they will only intensify. If only our "elite" did not surrender us. There can be only one winner.
  19. Professor
    Professor 26 January 2018 20: 42
    +3
    I don’t understand why there are so few “pluses” under the news? After all, sanctions are a blessing. request
    1. Thirty-eight parrots
      Thirty-eight parrots 26 January 2018 20: 51
      14
      Quote: Professor
      why are there so few "pluses" under the news?

      Professor, you are a smart person, so why bother ?????
      1. Dormidont
        Dormidont 26 January 2018 21: 56
        +2
        good for him. already rubs his sweaty hands and giggles vilely
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 26 January 2018 21: 03
      +4
      Quote: Professor
      After all, sanctions are a blessing.

      Yes, yes, hold on, I’m not sorry, there is a lot + for good people.
  20. Thirty-eight parrots
    Thirty-eight parrots 26 January 2018 20: 50
    11
    Svarog,
    Svarog,
    But what about Suraykin? He is also from the Communists. True from the Communists of Russia and not from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. And how does the Communist Party differ from the Communists of Russia? Or are they different communists? And which of these Communists cares more for the people. This is to say that the Communists cannot even decide among themselves and put forward a single candidate.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 26 January 2018 21: 21
      +4
      Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
      Svarog,
      Svarog,
      But what about Suraykin? He is also from the Communists. True from the Communists of Russia and not from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. And how does the Communist Party differ from the Communists of Russia? Or are they different communists? And which of these Communists cares more for the people. This is to say that the Communists cannot even decide among themselves and put forward a single candidate.

      Let’s figure it out .. The program is important and the presidential candidate must be decent. Now all of this is there.
      1. Thirty-eight parrots
        Thirty-eight parrots 26 January 2018 21: 36
        +7
        Quote: Svarog
        Yes, sort it out.

        So less than two months before the election? When to understand that?
        Quote: Svarog
        presidential candidate must be decent.

        And which of them is more decent? Communist Suraikin or b \ n Grudinin, nominated by the Communist Party. I understand that the Moral Code of the builder of communism is the same for all communists? Oh, I forgot, Grudinin-non-partisan .... but from the Communist Party.
        Quote: Svarog
        Program is important

        Ha, ..... the former Yabloko Boldyrev writes the program, it seems, as a communist Grudinin. Your deeds are wonderful. That the Communist Party already has its own economists ?????
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 26 January 2018 21: 54
          +6
          Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
          So less than two months before the election? When to understand that?

          I do not understand who understands what, I will vote for Grudinin.
          Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
          And which of them is more decent? Communist Suraikin or b \ n Grudinin, nominated by the Communist Party. I understand that the Moral Code of the builder of communism is the same for all communists? Oh, I forgot, Grudinin-non-partisan .... but from the Communist Party.

          Communism is a utopia. And Zyuganov, by putting forward Grudinin, showed that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation took a course towards socialism. And he did the right thing, than earned universal approval, well done.
          1. Thirty-eight parrots
            Thirty-eight parrots 26 January 2018 22: 19
            +5
            Quote: Svarog
            I don’t understand who understands what

            So you drew it, well, they’ll figure it out about something .. And claims to me. Why suddenly ????
            Svarog Today, 21:21 ↑ New
            Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
            Svarog,
            Svarog,
            But what about Suraykin? He is also from the Communists. True from the Communists of Russia and not from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. And how does the Communist Party differ from the Communists of Russia? Or are they different communists? And which of these Communists cares more for the people. This is to say that the Communists cannot even decide among themselves and put forward a single candidate.
            Yes, sort it out .. The program is important and the presidential candidate must be decent. Now all of this is there.

            So I asked, when will they deal with each other?
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 26 January 2018 22: 30
              +5
              Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
              So I asked, when will they deal with each other?

              When Grudinin becomes president.
              1. Thirty-eight parrots
                Thirty-eight parrots 26 January 2018 22: 33
                +5
                Quote: Svarog
                When Grudinin becomes president.

                I'm more interested in how they will share the left-wing electorate with each other.
                1. 264
                  264 26 January 2018 23: 00
                  +3
                  Is this what interests you the most, my dear smog? laughing
              2. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 26 January 2018 22: 57
                +5
                Quote: Svarog
                Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
                So I asked, when will they deal with each other?

                When Grudinin becomes president.

                That is, practically, "after a rain on Thursday" laughing
    2. Masya masya
      Masya masya 26 January 2018 21: 22
      +9
      Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
      But what about Suraykin? He is also from the Communists. Truth from the Communists of Russia

      laughing
      1. Thirty-eight parrots
        Thirty-eight parrots 26 January 2018 21: 38
        +8
        Yes, yes Marina! lol The communist Suraykin is more wrong than the non-partisan Grudinin put forward by the communists. Wonderful!
  21. mitchhunter
    mitchhunter 26 January 2018 21: 03
    0
    In response, we must constantly abandon the ISS and participate in it, undock the Russian blocks and fly about our business.
    1. Iaaa
      Iaaa 26 January 2018 21: 15
      +1
      Quote: mitchhunter
      In response, we must constantly abandon the ISS and participate in it

      So the Americans themselves since 2020 want to abandon it.
      Quote: mitchhunter
      undock Russian blocks and fly about their business.

      And pull? With the current situation in society, not even in the economy. The liberals will again bark that we are taking money from the “people” and spending it on trifles ...
    2. Doubting
      Doubting 26 January 2018 21: 37
      +3
      It will be done))) The Americans have already announced that since 2024 they are abandoning the ISS, the Russian Federation will not pull one station.
      1. Thirty-eight parrots
        Thirty-eight parrots 26 January 2018 22: 22
        +3
        Quote: Doubting
        RF one station will not pull.

        In fairness ... if the entire ISS then yes, it will not pull. Well, if you unhook the American blocks and put them into free swimming, and leave only your own then it’s very, yes. Well, something like that.
  22. Baloo
    Baloo 26 January 2018 21: 03
    +5
    Svarog,
    Quote: Svarog
    hahahah, well, they made fun. Why do you need so much information?

    I just want to understand what you are hoping for. Do you entrust yourself to an operation to a veterinarian, or to a veterinarian, or just to a neighbor? In India, they still say right in the bazaar they can even pull out a tooth and something else.
    The president in Russia is the general director of a large enterprise. The success of the team depends on his professional training and competence, work experience. Do you want a person from the street with slogans whose common sense I want to steer, to rule the country? The fact that he, in the pre-election period, instead of meeting with potential voters, rushed to go skiing in Germany, already speaks of the level of responsibility. I really think if he went to the arrow with Khodorkovsky and the curators, like for instructions.
    1. Iaaa
      Iaaa 26 January 2018 21: 21
      +2
      Quote: Balu
      Do you want a person from the street with slogans whose common sense I want to steer, to rule the country? The fact that he, in the pre-election period, instead of meeting with potential voters, rushed to go skiing in Germany, already speaks of the level of responsibility.

      To Grudinin, did I understand the program, Sir Boldyrev wrote from an apple? And why does Yabloko Boldyrev write the program, as it were, to the Communist (well, at least the guy from them) Grudinin? Some nonsense.
      Well, about skiing in Germany. If this is all true, but it seems to be true. Then Ksyushu is left alone. (Just kidding) But she doesn’t hide anything.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 27 January 2018 01: 36
        +1
        Yes, just that.
        They have the same authors. Who wrote for Boldyrev. now they write for Grudinin.
        The goal is one - only the tools are changing.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 26 January 2018 21: 40
      +5
      Quote: Balu
      Svarog,
      Quote: Svarog
      hahahah, well, they made fun. Why do you need so much information?

      I just want to understand what you are hoping for. Do you entrust yourself to an operation to a veterinarian, or to a veterinarian, or just to a neighbor? In India, they still say right in the bazaar they can even pull out a tooth and something else.
      The president in Russia is the general director of a large enterprise. The success of the team depends on his professional training and competence, work experience. Do you want a person from the street with slogans whose common sense I want to steer, to rule the country? The fact that he, in the pre-election period, instead of meeting with potential voters, rushed to go skiing in Germany, already speaks of the level of responsibility. I really think if he went to the arrow with Khodorkovsky and the curators, like for instructions.

      Here is your president and your elite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f15zHVSey4 and say that this is not true.
      And yes, about the experience. Putin did not have it and it must be said, he began very vigorously and correctly. But after the first term was blown away ..
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 26 January 2018 21: 48
        +4
        Quote: Svarog
        Here is your president and your elite

        This is not the answer to your questions.
        Quote: Balu
        Do you entrust yourself to an operation to a veterinarian, or to a veterinarian, or simply to a neighbor?

        Your answer, like - "scrape off, you fool himself" - doesn’t roll, sorry request
      2. Nasrat
        Nasrat 26 January 2018 23: 09
        +1
        www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f15zHVSey4 - and without this video, I guessed about organized crime groups from the Kremlin ..
  23. Maz
    Maz 26 January 2018 21: 06
    0
    Infected by maydanutyh chtoli? And in appearance, normal people. In ties, suits, teeth are brushed, hairstyles are styling, and come on, circus.
    1. Doubting
      Doubting 26 January 2018 21: 23
      0
      Putin is at the same time, he said-the sanctions of the Russian Federation only benefit.
      I heard it myself.
    2. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 26 January 2018 21: 24
      +4
      What a mess because of Putin and Grudinin. gentlemen? Wangyu: Putin will certainly win the election. and by the end of his next term, he will gradually lead to the successor's chair. But so smoothly. what we will think. that we elected him. Continuity. panimash. warranty .....
  24. private person
    private person 26 January 2018 21: 22
    +4
    Still, the means of our millionaires would be frozen so that they knew how to steal from their people. More visas for our elite were closed, so to speak, in general, it would be strange.
  25. Svarog
    Svarog 26 January 2018 21: 24
    +4
    cniza,
    No, a socialist.
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  27. Svarog
    Svarog 26 January 2018 21: 27
    +5
    vovanpain,
    Stalin also did not immediately come to power. The main thing is that there would be an idea. And she will give birth to the character necessary for the country.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 26 January 2018 21: 56
      +5
      Quote: Svarog
      The main thing is to have an idea. And she will give birth ...

      Well, give her, Idea, Gd, as they say.
      Only here are some special ideas ... somehow not yet observed request
      They promise tax cuts, the abolition of Platonov and so on, and then the minimum wage of 25-30 kilo rubles ... gasification of the whole country, and all - for free ...
      Where did the money come from for such a luxury?
      Only about trillions in the treasures is not necessary - they will be enough ... for a couple of months. What next?
      All this smells like populism ... and Mr., pah, that’s manure negative
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 26 January 2018 22: 36
        +3
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        They promise tax cuts, the abolition of Platonov and so on, and then the minimum wage of 25-30 kilo rubles ... gasification of the whole country, and all - for free ...

        Gas, oil, alcohol - all this will be nationalized. Withdraw money is a ban. Money that has already been withdrawn will be returned. This is quite enough. The USSR existed for 70 years and at the same time fed the half of the world, and contained a huge army. Add to this that, unlike the USSR, small and medium-sized businesses are now allowed.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 26 January 2018 22: 48
          +4
          Quote: Svarog
          Withdraw money ban

          What is it like? Goodbye, foreign investors, for example?
          Let me explain: the shareholders of the same LNG plant have the right to spend their share of the profit as they please. This, sorry, is a worldwide practice.
          In the Russian Federation, they do not want to spend it, therefore they are withdrawn from the Russian Federation (attention!). It is in its own right and legally, by the way. This is their own money, you see.
          Do you also propose to cancel it?
          Quote: Svarog
          Money that is already withdrawn will be returned

          That's interesting, what kind of makarom? Any ideas?
          Quote: Svarog
          The USSR existed for 70 years and at the same time fed half the world ...

          Well, he didn’t “feed” all 70 years ... and not even half of those 70 years ... and on that he overtaxed.
          "Forgiven debts", which you and your friends like to grieve about so much - they are, for the most part, the legacy of the USSR. Cool, huh?
          Well, and so on.
          I repeat, the so-called “20 steps” are pure populism and lure for suckers. A la MMM with Lenya Golubkov.
          However, as you know - a sucker is not a mammoth, he will not die out. So for some time this circus will continue. Not long, about a month and a half left yes
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 26 January 2018 23: 35
            +4
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            What is it like? Goodbye, foreign investors, for example?
            Let me explain: the shareholders of the same LNG plant have the right to spend their share of the profit as they please. This, sorry, is a worldwide practice.

            And your investors have invested a lot in Russia. We have been attracting them for 20 years, but they have only attracted them to natural resources. So they profitable? And if so, if there are none, will it be beneficial to us?
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Well, he didn’t “feed” all 70 years ... and not even half of those 70 years ... and on that he overtaxed.

            Yes, half of those years, and the other half restored the economy, after the most destructive war in the history of mankind. And restored, so much so that we still use many benefits. And the USSR did not tear on what the whole world fed. Not a change of power, the old ones who ruled the country when they were already at death, or in complete insanity, which led to betrayal. In addition to this, there wasn’t enough flexibility, but it’s the same from insanity .. By the way, Putin is there too .. It's time to retire, but he grabbed the oars.
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            "Forgiven debts", which you and your friends like to grieve about so much - they are, for the most part, the legacy of the USSR. Cool, huh?

            You can explain the "bulk". On the numbers that under Putin were forgiven and handed out and what about him. And yet, I do not understand why I should forgive the debtor, especially since he owes not to me specifically, but to the people. Did many Americans write off money to anyone? Here is the last thing that came to mind, Putin wrote off 200 ml of Kyrgyzstan. $, and then he gave it. How shoud I understand this? What is there nothing to take from Kyrgyzstan? If desired, you can find a way. There is a version that the government gets a rollback for the money written off. I don’t know if it is, but it seems to be true.
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            I repeat, the so-called “20 steps” are pure populism and lure for suckers. A la MMM with Lenya Golubkov.

            Can you justify the numbers?
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            However, as you know - a sucker is not a mammoth, he will not die out. So for some time this circus will continue. Not long, about a month and a half left

            A sucker is one who is willing to endure until death, and an even bigger sucker is one who endures and at the same time stands for this power.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 27 January 2018 00: 03
              +4
              Quote: Svarog
              You can explain the "bulk". On the numbers that under Putin were forgiven and handed out and what about him

              Not, of course, I understand that "arrogance is the second happiness." But not as much request
              Your request draws on a full-fledged article. No comment on the tape. Here is the list of debts written off "under the USSR":
              Charged to Cuba $ 31.7 billion
              Charged to Mongolia $ 11.1 billion
              Charged to Afghanistan $ 11.1 billion
              Charged to DPRK $ 11.0 billion
              Charged to Vietnam $ 9.53 billion
              Charged to Algeria $ 4.7 billion.
              Charged to Ethiopia $ 4.8 billion.
              The list can be continued.
              All data is open, Internet to help yes
              Quote: Svarog
              I don’t understand why I should forgive the debtor

              This is only your problem. Self-educate, instead of trolling on the Internet.
              Quote: Svarog
              A sucker is one who ...

              Loch is a salmon, in the original. Extremely lazy and dumb fish.
              Quote: Svarog
              And your investors have invested a lot in Russia

              Tie already ... twirl "second ninety" negative
              Quote: Svarog
              Withdraw money is a ban. Money that is already withdrawn will be returned

              Your words? Yours, yours ... so please be responsible for them ... well, or honestly say that you got excited laughing
              And to bombard me with questions - you’re in vain, my friend. Here you can not do anything wink
        2. mihey
          mihey 26 January 2018 23: 03
          +1
          You are kind of smart person. I like your articles here because of their analysis and presentation of the material. And then suddenly this ... request
          How do you imagine nationalization? I am interested in the mechanism itself. Stupidly pick up, in the sense of expropriating? So this will lead to a well-paid social explosion (the consequences are predictable and the West joyfully rubs sweaty hands). Buy shares from owners? So where to get the money from? To dispossess the oligarchs? So this will lead to a well-paid social explosion ... Continue?
          Establish a dictatorship with landings, executions and other delights? So here ideology is needed, which the sane majority can support (though the revolution will devour its children anyway).
          So how to put this into practice without social upheaval?
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 27 January 2018 01: 45
            0
            This is how the ordinary Zagrudin residents understand the task of the future president. So they understand the future of the country. The fact that their heads are filled with the level of primitiveness of populism is comparable to 1991.
            Well then, it’s understandable - all around there are Soviet people who have no idea what political struggle or black PR is.
            In terms of meaning, everything is simple for them, as is the case with the classics - "take everything and share!".
            Now, in 2018, such dense simplicity?
            Well, how much can you do on the same rake ...
  28. Lesorub
    Lesorub 26 January 2018 21: 45
    +1
    They are Us Sanctions, and We, with a smile, are engines for rockets, liquefied gas !! )
    1. private person
      private person 26 January 2018 22: 04
      0
      And where to get the money to pay pensions and salaries to state employees?
      1. Lesorub
        Lesorub 26 January 2018 23: 34
        +1
        Now I’ll “pay”), and this is in the country where the entire periodic table and the colossal export of hydrocarbons are extracted - I advise you not to refer to the budget sector if there are no other reasons!)
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 27 January 2018 01: 53
          0
          Exactly.
          You can distribute the periodic table to pensioners - each with one chemical element.
          Or a barrel of oil.
          Oh yes, there is still gas and alcohol ... Then, on a gas cylinder, a bokeh of oil and a box of vodka.
  29. Iaaa
    Iaaa 26 January 2018 21: 49
    +1
    cniza,
    Quote: cniza
    Quote: Svarog
    [It is necessary to build a socialist state further, taking into account previous experience .. It will not improve immediately, but within 4 years everyone will notice improvements. Unless of course, Grudinin implements those 20 steps that are in the program.


    Are you a communist?

    The dreamer, however ..... laughing
  30. shura7782
    shura7782 26 January 2018 21: 51
    +2
    In the US Treasury announced the introduction of a new package of anti-Russian sanctions
    They say so much about them that I'm already confused. How many are there at all.?
  31. fa2998
    fa2998 26 January 2018 21: 54
    +1
    5
    Quote: vlad66
    Well, kicked away and what's next.? Will life improve immediately or will sanctions be lifted? It will not improve and will not be removed.

    Why assume? If we haven’t corrected the situation in 18 years, let’s really drive it out, we will set others up. And we’re not bloody Stalin, we won’t torture in the Lubyanka. Do you know how much the Great Depression was in the USA, or the devastation after the revolution and the civil war in the USSR? Yes, there was chaos, but 100-10 years all restored, and went ahead. These only took care of their pockets, and devastation is booming! hi
  32. Dormidont
    Dormidont 26 January 2018 21: 54
    0
    The worst thing is if the Satanists decide to suddenly abolish all their sanctions and again begin to fill up with us as friends. Then we will bend in their poisonous arms
    1. Doubting
      Doubting 26 January 2018 22: 03
      +1
      So it’s like we are to them, and not they to us ...
      Remember how our media enthusiastically discussed how many times Trump slapped Putin on the shoulder lol
  33. vitalm
    vitalm 26 January 2018 22: 28
    +1
    Svarog
    The average top of the Communist Party and Zyuganov sold for loot, now they are pulling the strawberry tycoon. Shame is utter.
  34. tosha.chuhontzev
    tosha.chuhontzev 26 January 2018 22: 55
    +1
    The more sanctions, the topic is better for the Russian people. However, grandmas are taken out of the Moscow exchange in tons. All this resembles a vile operetta. Now, if the Americans covered up the Moscow stock exchange, then I would exclaim: I BELIEVE!
  35. mavrus
    mavrus 26 January 2018 22: 58
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Thirty-eight parrots
    And about the amendment against the USSR What is your opinion.?

    I answered above what I think about the amendment of the USSR. You just imagine that the USSR would not feed half the world and it was allowed to conduct small and medium-sized businesses. In this case, all the attempts of the "partners" would simply be ridiculous. And our growth rate would be higher than in China, well, or comparable.

    If only ...
    If the USSR had not "fed the floor of the world", then it would have sintered in six months!
    If "it was allowed to conduct small and medium-sized businesses," then there would have been no USSR, if not in the War, then right after, or it would have been no longer the USSR.
    And the growth rate in the Stalinist USSR was higher than in China.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 26 January 2018 23: 40
      +3
      Quote: mavrus
      If the USSR had not "fed the floor of the world", then it would have sintered in six months!

      Justify? In fact, there was no need to strive to spread their ideology to the whole world.
      Quote: mavrus
      If "it was allowed to conduct small and medium-sized businesses," then there would have been no USSR, if not in the War, then right after, or it would have been no longer the USSR.

      haha)) but what about the NEP? have you heard of such a phenomenon?
      Quote: mavrus
      And the growth rate in the Stalinist USSR was higher than in China.

      It's right. They will now be higher if the Communists come to power.
  36. Overlock
    Overlock 26 January 2018 23: 06
    +1
    Quote: zloybond
    Maybe they will start there on Mondays from there is nothing to do with sanctions, which are somehow not in response, but just pick it out of your nose ????

    will not start, why?
  37. Overlock
    Overlock 26 January 2018 23: 19
    +1
    Quote: rapid turtle
    rapid turtle Today, 20:44 PM ↑
    Quote: Balu
    and if compared to 1999?

    The guys apparently didn’t live in those years, well, or they were children. Therefore, they are judged

    why so? In 2000, I taxed for 10 rubles between Maryino and metro Kuzminki. Now no one believes in it, but it was.
    Traumatologists taxed from metro Tekstilshchiki.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 27 January 2018 08: 35
      +1
      Quote: Overlock
      Traumatologists taxed from m. Tekstilshchiki

      I, too, in the 90s taxed first on the Cossack, then on the six. When I tried to get it settled officially, the team leader said that I had to make an entrance fee in a substantial amount at that time. Then he quit, was on duty three a week + during the day to the fullest from work to work.
  38. Overlock
    Overlock 26 January 2018 23: 41
    +1
    Quote: zloybond
    I don’t understand one thing: Who supplies petroleum jelly to our government ????

  39. earloop
    earloop 27 January 2018 00: 45
    0
    Hmm. "Sanctions package"! Or rather, war. Yes, in 1918, the troops of 14 powers, in fact, surrounded the territory of today's Russia. Where did the troops surrounding Russia go? - They covered themselves with a "copper basin"! But Russia won. Therefore, the more sanctions, the greater the solidarity of the people, including those “affected” by the imposed sanctions, the closer the victory. In such a situation, you also need to "get the punishing sword from its sheath."
  40. Mestny
    Mestny 27 January 2018 01: 31
    -1
    Quote: Svarog
    Further, the socialist state must be built, taking into account previous experience .. It will not improve immediately, but within 4 years everyone will notice improvements. Unless of course, Grudinin implements those 20 steps that are in the program.

    Brilliantly!
    Classic idiocy.
    May you not have these 4 years! Not even a year will be.
    “If it's over”, yours gives hope for understanding the real situation instead of bullshit about building socialism.
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  42. Mestny
    Mestny 27 January 2018 01: 58
    -1
    Quote: fa2998
    Do you know how much the Great Depression was in the USA, or the devastation after the revolution and the civil war in the USSR? Yes, there was chaos, but 10-15 years all restored, and went ahead. These only took care of their pockets, and devastation is booming!

    I’m embarrassed to ask - in the USA, for example, have democratic journalists and popular activists thrown off the “regime” and put down their own candidate, who saved the USA? And did these US rescuers really not care about their pockets?
    The Great Depression was 90 years ago. Everything was then in the world a little different than now. and problems were solved by slightly different methods.
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  44. Tahtvjd2868
    Tahtvjd2868 27 January 2018 02: 04
    +3
    Once upon a time I watched the New Year’s address of a man I didn’t respect very much .. And then, like thunder in the middle of winter: "..... I will resign ..." The joy was indescribable! And now that year, looking at how the last houses in the city are falling apart and overgrown gardens and plots, I want to hear the long-awaited ..... ".........." !!!
  45. Tahtvjd2868
    Tahtvjd2868 27 January 2018 02: 08
    +1
    There is no doubt that the authorities will include correction factors in case of any threat in the elections. But who will she offer us in 6 years? Change the Constitution again ???
  46. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 January 2018 02: 15
    +1
    Waited for a long time and with joy! laughing
  47. engineering
    engineering 27 January 2018 06: 59
    +1
    If Russia is silent and wiped off with sanctions, then someone needs it. Of course we have.
  48. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 27 January 2018 12: 18
    +4
    Quote: Svarog
    within 4 years, everyone will notice improvements. Unless, of course, Grudinin realizes, those 20 steps that are in the program

    They are impossibleYou laid it out yesterday by components already request
    If you say "halva" a hundred times, it will not become sweeter in your mouth
  49. Overlock
    Overlock 27 January 2018 12: 31
    0
    Quote: Morozyaka
    I am not a prosecutor to prove anything. But here something a lot of such "ideological" agitators appeared suddenly. Either you have a good idea, or they pay well.

    do not find, you also fall under your own dictum
  50. Vanek
    Vanek 27 January 2018 12: 45
    +1


    - What a disgusting erysipelas.