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Why did Lutsenko urge to legalize small arms in Ukraine?

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In an interview with the Ukrainian edition "Today" The country's Prosecutor General, Yuriy Lutsenko, announced the “high performance” of the Ukrainian police. According to Lutsenko, statistics show that Ukrainian police officers work “more efficiently than their British colleagues.” From the statement of Lutsenko:
In general, the detection in 98%, as it was in the 2000-ies, can not be. Now, as far as I know, it is in the 75% area. But in Scotland Yard, I was once interested, it is about 40%. By the way, every year since the beginning of the "ATO" we have the number of murders becomes less by 10 – 15%. Such a phenomenon ...



At the same time, the Ukrainian Prosecutor General initiated the legalization of small weapons. According to Yury Lutsenko, the implementation of such an initiative would reduce the level of crime in the country. The Prosecutor General noted that "the relatively low crime rate in Ukraine is associated with a large number of weapons in the hands of citizens."

Why did Lutsenko urge to legalize small arms in Ukraine?


Yury Lutsenko:
The offender is most afraid of armed resistance. Therefore, by the way, I am a staunch supporter of the legalization of short-barreled firearms for adults who have passed the necessary checks, especially for those who have property and the need to protect it. In addition, after a certain period of reforms, our police have restored their professionalism and successfully eliminated organized types of crime.


At the same time, Lutsenko did not say why (if the police of Ukraine successfully liquidate organized crime) is he still in the office of the prosecutor general? ..
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  1. Mihail177
    Mihail177 26 January 2018 14: 47
    +1
    Correctly. So they shoot each other.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 26 January 2018 14: 53
      +1
      The MVD will quit the whole apparatus after this decision. They are right now there.

      although in their place I would do so after 14 years and events with the Golden Eagle
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 26 January 2018 15: 20
        10
        Automatically get all the ATO participants and the entire nationalist hoop (already tested), but the rest will mostly be their target.
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 26 January 2018 17: 42
        0
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        The Ministry of Internal Affairs will quit the whole apparatus after this decision

        The old personnel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Ukraine, after the 14th year, was already gone, who didn’t leave, who was asked, without pensions. The new composition of the "police" is young people, without talents, knowledge and experience, but ideologically seasoned. The fight against crime is the second plan, the main thing is for Ukraine, and what to be a “generous patriot”, knowledge and skills are not needed. Amazes a huge number of young women (I wanted to say rude) who look in the police, "like in the Russian ski bath." But everything is tolerant, as in Europe.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 26 January 2018 19: 55
          +1
          The old personnel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Ukraine, after the 14th year is gone

          Why shaw you ...
          My classmate has been working in the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Ukraine for 8-10 years. They themselves do not leave such posts, all the more so since he made his career there from the very bottom, from a local policeman in the suburbs — half-village — it was still a pleasure. Now he has reached the Captain.

          PS: Another friend from the SBU to retire is already going slowly.
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 26 January 2018 20: 30
            +1
            Quote: alexmach
            My classmate has been working in the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Ukraine for 8-10 years. They themselves do not leave such posts, especially since he did his career there

            So you yourself admitted that they do not work there, but they make a career. And depending on which river your classmate lives in. In the east of Ukraine, the Ministry of Internal Affairs has almost completely cleaned out old personnel.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 26 January 2018 20: 40
              +2
              So you yourself admitted that they do not work there, but they make a career.

              You write some nonsense. And what do you think a person should solder in hard and dirty, and in some places dangerous work for the sake of an idea? Or for the sake of "thanks"? Do you work for the police?
              1. Orionvit
                Orionvit 27 January 2018 00: 01
                +2
                Quote: alexmach
                Do you work for the police?

                I live in Ukraine. And the "nonsense" on which you are trying to "catch" me, I see every day. So I don’t need to push.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 26 January 2018 15: 28
      +1
      And what about those who do not have property? belay
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 26 January 2018 15: 47
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        And what about those who do not have property?

        Well, you’re just like a little one ... those who do not have property first use weapons to obtain them, and then - to protect them. smile
        “How did you make that fortune?”
        - Well, for starters you need start-up capital.
        - And how did you earn your starting capital?
        - Well, first you need at least a starting gun ...
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    5. Maz
      Maz 26 January 2018 17: 13
      0
      This will be the beginning of becoming an African jungle. I’ll be the first to buy three barrels and a box of cartridges. And the police will run and dig trenches around the regional departments
  2. 264
    264 26 January 2018 14: 49
    +8
    They’re doing the right thing, and it’s time for us to resolve it in our country, it is still full of firearms on our hands. Why are we worse? Or are we the wrong citizens? Are we carrying the wrong money to the treasury of the State? We don’t pay taxes? Or little? We don’t have the right to protect ourselves and our Families?
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 26 January 2018 15: 00
      +2
      Get permission and protect. Who's stopping you?
      1. Topotun
        Topotun 26 January 2018 15: 03
        +4
        Apparently the 264th is referring to the short barrel. In this case, I would not refuse from Makar ... And yes, Saiga-410k, there are no problems with permission ....
        1. 264
          264 26 January 2018 15: 07
          +6
          good Many people officially have saiga, including myself, Nikolayevich ... hi I would like, as in the hated by everyoneOn the legal basis of winkOr again to get cut-offs from under the floor? Live in the 21st century, or not?
          1. Topotun
            Topotun 26 January 2018 15: 11
            +3
            Good afternoon
            The funny thing is, I do not need a trunk car. I don’t even want to buy rifled, why? Saiga with a nozzle "paradox" quite a bullet at a range of up to 80 meters sighting works. The hunter of me is so-so. At a range of over 100 sets I’m not going to shoot ... But the macaroni would .... Yes ...
            1. 264
              264 26 January 2018 15: 19
              +3
              What am I talking about ..? wink For SELF-DEFENSE!!! hi
          2. Topotun
            Topotun 26 January 2018 15: 22
            +2
            Of course it’s legal, otherwise the issues can be decided differently. But why?
    2. kapitan92
      kapitan92 26 January 2018 15: 04
      +8
      Quote: 264
      Do right

      First you need to check the info. Lutsenko on the crime rate on the outskirts! She does not stand up to criticism, I put it very gently.

      https://rian.com.ua/analytics/20171127/1029823927
      /Socseti-Ukraine-top-prestupnost.html
      The question remains, about lobbying for such a high “pepper” in the margin hierarchy in the free sale of trunks to citizens.
      1. 264
        264 26 January 2018 15: 14
        +7
        Yes, do not repeat the horror stories of the First to Ana la, not matured, not worthy .... wink Worthy. hi
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 26 January 2018 15: 21
          +6
          Quote: 264
          Yes, do not repeat the horror stories of the First to Ana la, not matured, not worthy .... wink Worthy. hi

          Most gracious! Pay attention to the link address: rian.com.ua. And here is Channel One, and if you know how to use a search engine, google it. All info is freely available.
          1. sd68
            sd68 26 January 2018 16: 30
            +1
            Yeah. RIA Novosti, the same first channel
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 26 January 2018 18: 32
              +3
              Quote: sd68
              Yeah. RIA Novosti, the same first channel

              For the "pan-sauce" from the "fraternal" outskirts.
              “Crime in Ukraine. Statistics and Dynamics
              For the analysis of crime we used statistics of the website of the General Prosecutor's Office of Ukraine (ЄDINIY ZVІT PRO KRIMINALNY RIGHT LAW OFFICE)
              Speaking at a meeting of the parliamentary committee on law enforcement, the head of the National Police of Ukraine Khatia Dekanoidze, "prepared a big speech with statistics." But she refused to read it out, offering to talk about what “hurts” her. She spoke about the lack of funds for the salary, uniform and lack of motivation of the police. The head of the National Police did not name real figures for the trends in crime growth. Only, she said that over the 9 months of 2016 the increase in crime amounted to 23%, and about 60% of all crimes are property crimes.
              According to our estimates, the growth, in accordance with the data posted on the website of the Prosecutor General of Ukraine, of all registered crimes amounted to 9% for 18.9 months of the current year, and 67% for mercenary crimes. According to the Prosecutor General’s Office, 2013 thousand especially serious crimes were recorded in Ukraine in 13 , and in 2015 - already 21,5 thousand, the number of serious ones for the same period increased by 21 724 or by + 15.32% (2013 - 156 131, 2015 - 177 855).
              According to the GPU, most of the crimes reported by citizens in 2015 and 2016 remain unsolved. For 9 months of 2016, 511 851 crimes were registered in the country, which is 18,9% more compared to the same period last year, charges ("fiduciary") were filed in 115 704 criminal cases, that is, 22.6% of crimes committed were discovered and investigated . For the same period last year, the figure was 35.1%.
              The number of serious crimes in the whole country increased by 28%.

              The geography of crime growth. The first place in terms of growth in the total number of crimes (non-grave and grave) is occupied by Kiev. For 6 months 73 crimes were committed, compared with the same period last year - an increase of 220%.
              2015% more crimes were committed in the Kharkiv region compared to 55,5, and 53% in the Odessa region. With a total increase in the number of serious crimes by 26,2%, the growth of murders, robberies and rape in the Odessa region amounted to 52%, and in Kiev - 40%.

              The most distant from the ATO Transcarpathian region leads in killings with an increase of 50%. Lviv region is not much behind, growth - 38%.

              In general, the number of crimes against life and health (murder, infliction of grievous and less grievous bodily harm, etc.) increased by 8,06%, robberies - by 22.3%, robberies - by 35.9%. The number of apartment thefts in the country increased by 33.7%. The greatest increase in thefts occurred in Cherkasy region, Kherson and Ternopil - twice. At the same time, the number of solved and investigated crimes steadily decreased
              .................................................
              .................................................
              ......................................
              The criminal component in this case acts as one of the destabilizing factors. The goal is the introduction of a state of emergency in the country, the justification of the need for “hard” power control in Ukraine. The responsibility for this lies directly with the supporters of the war party, namely Turchinov, Avakov, Parubiye, Pashinsky and others.
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 27 January 2018 00: 06
        0
        Quote: kapitan92
        The question remains, about lobbying for such a high “pepper” in the margin hierarchy in the free sale of trunks to citizens.

        hi
        Yes, no matter what it is lobbying - pure blah blah to indicate its presence. For 30 million people, 70 million trunks (this is not taking into account sold abroad). You think someone will go register their guns and grenades? They put it in the eaves until it is applied. De jue, however. yes
      3. Antares
        Antares 27 January 2018 00: 30
        +2
        Quote: kapitan92


        https://rian.com.ua/analytics/20171127/1029823927

        last November's news ..
        there certainly is nothing to be proud of. It’s just that Russia took 86th place, located between Senegal and Cape Verde, which is also an occasion to neigh over neighbors (who have war and crisis)
  3. Gray brother
    Gray brother 26 January 2018 14: 50
    +7
    Oh, the whole thing! Well done Lutsenko - if you can’t stop the mess, then you need to head it.
  4. cniza
    cniza 26 January 2018 14: 53
    0
    At the same time, Lutsenko did not say why (if the Ukrainian police successfully liquidate organized crime), is he still in the chair of the prosecutor general? ..


    Better not to say.
  5. Dormidont
    Dormidont 26 January 2018 14: 55
    +1
    Do not forget about grenades
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 26 January 2018 15: 24
      +6
      Grenades for amateur and courage.
  6. bogart047
    bogart047 26 January 2018 14: 57
    +1
    Lutsenko is still a ghoul, but completely legalizes with legalization. When the maximum in the country that the police can do is to come and cover the corpse, there is no other way ...
  7. Azazelo
    Azazelo 26 January 2018 14: 57
    0
    So let's see how it turns out when the gun is in the hands of the civilian population in a crumbling country.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 26 January 2018 14: 59
      +1
      Yes, look there. It's time to fence the reservation. Our poor bodies and border guards

      Whoever has relatives there is better to transport to Rossiushka faster. there the campaign is only just beginning.

      There is no sense in waiting anymore.
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya 26 January 2018 15: 04
    +4
    Now, as far as I know, it is in the region of 75%. But in Scotland Yard, I once was interested, she is about 40%

    so because they work there and what they have gained ... and you draw, I generally wonder how it is only 75% and not all 100% !!!laughing with such "work" in the organs and in the "justice" ... wink too ashamed to lie so brazenly?
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 27 January 2018 00: 16
      +2
      Quote: Masya Masya
      too ashamed to lie so brazenly?


      Good night, Marina.
      What did you mean? The concepts of conscience, constraint and Lutsenko are the opposite. That’s why he was put by the ex-watcher from the USA. Okay, it's time to finish.
      For the cat kitten:
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 27 January 2018 05: 12
        +4
        Hi, Leo! love I agree, something I turned down about shame ... lol

        Good morning!!! love
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 26 January 2018 16: 48
    0

    Damn, the Ukrainians are lucky directly with 75% crime detection?
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 26 January 2018 17: 50
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Damn, the Ukrainians are lucky directly with 75% crime detection?

      It seems to me that for the majority of crimes that are not dragging on particularly serious, things simply do not start. No matter, no crime. And where did they come from when the old personnel from the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine were cleaned up completely.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 26 January 2018 18: 26
        +1
        Quote: Orionvit
        It seems to me that for the majority of crimes that are not dragging on particularly serious, things simply do not start. No matter, no crime.

        You just don’t have to believe so much in the words of a man who was drunk flying at an airport in Germany, made a brawl, then demanded an apology from the newspaper for publishing the information.
        I'm not saying how he tried to hide behind the back of a sick son
      2. LeonidL
        LeonidL 27 January 2018 05: 12
        0
        The paper will endure everything, especially if they force me to write in mov ...
  10. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 26 January 2018 19: 02
    0
    And they urgently need to legalize drugs, prostitution and same-sex marriage. Then, paradise will come to Ukraine. wassat
  11. Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 26 January 2018 21: 48
    0
    Quote: Azazelo
    So let's see how it turns out when a firearm is in the hands of a civilian population in a crumbling country.

    So he is now in the hands of a crowd and a small cart, war, however. Maybe part of the people legalizes in law enforcement agencies, but I doubt they will ask where they got it. And it’s legal to buy - again, why, if you already have one. In Soviet times, when the permit system was introduced, the weapons of all hunters in hunting collectives were first registered with the police. And then they registered upon presentation of a hunting ticket and a trunk (found in the attic, paternal laughing ) It turned out that another non-student was legalized. But then with hunting, but with fighting ...
  12. Antares
    Antares 27 January 2018 00: 24
    +1
    Therefore, by the way, I am a staunch supporter of the legalization of short-barreled firearms for adults who have passed the necessary verification, especially for those who have property and the need to protect it.

    no matter how I relate to the personality of Lutsenko, he is right. Only a free person has the right to own and own property and to protect him. The right to arms is the inseparable human right to protection.
    It is not a weapon that kills, but a man. Where weapons are in the house or legalized, there is much less crime. Especially Ukraine has always been a frontier, where historically weapons have always been on hand.
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 January 2018 02: 32
    +1
    ... and each with a grenade, better with anti-tank ... laughing
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 27 January 2018 05: 11
      0
      You need to throw an anti-tank, it’s better to do a good old fenka - I pulled the ring and ... self-service!
  14. LeonidL
    LeonidL 27 January 2018 05: 10
    0
    Well, they can’t do it in Kukuev without fiction !!! This is the Ukrainian police more effective than anyone else in the world, and above all Scotland Yard !!! You’ll laugh at the wretched as they puff ... well, at least a carcass, even a gut, but to get into the number of the best and first!
  15. ROM1077
    ROM1077 27 January 2018 07: 44
    0
    krasava in Russia, too, it's time to legalize just the authorities are afraid of the armed people ....
  16. kdakda
    kdakda 27 January 2018 09: 09
    0
    Let’s legalize the trunks as well. The USA will bring you as much as you need. Americans will take 80% of the market on themselves. The rest may be sold by local manufacturers. Yes, and together with the sale of the barrel it is necessary to issue a coffin.
  17. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 January 2018 13: 26
    +1
    Some kind of "ragged" Scotland Yard against the Great Independent Police. Crime is almost eliminated, corruption is over, and banditry remained only in the former USSR. Generally heaven on earth !!!