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Russians in Germany. truth against myth

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In 1945, fighters came to Germany to see the disastrous consequences of the Nazi occupation. They made their way from the Volga to the Oder across the devastated land, constantly encountering destroyed cities, burned villages, corpses filled with wells.


In 8 km from the liberated Kerch, 245 children's corpses were found in the moat. Thus, the fate of the missing children, which the German commandant's office ordered parents to send to the school from where they did not return, became clear. Representatives of Western civilization buried them alive ...

Chad lover invaders did not suffer. Another confirmation of this is the letter received by the Red Army soldier Sidorov from his sisters Zina and Vera from the Smolensk region and published by the Red Star 9 of August 1942 of the year (No. 186 (5250) under the heading “Detericides”: “Kolya, it’s hard to write everything that we survived. The secretary of the village council, Valeu Ivanova, and her daughter Nina, the son Grisha, you know very well. The Hitlerite officers, wanting to get information about our partisans from her, decided to influence her by torturing her children.

Having tied her hands to Vale, these wild animals in her eyes cut off her right ears from Nina and Grisha, then the boy gouged out her left eye, the girl chopped off all five fingers on her right hand. Valya could not bear these wild tortures and died of a heartbreak. Fascist butchers tortured children to death were taken to the forest and thrown into the snow. We buried their corpses in the same grave with Valya.

The executioners also brutally acted with the girl teacher Maria Nikolaevna. Knowing that her husband was in a partisan detachment, the savages began to torment her daughter Vera. To a six-year-old girl, they pierced their palms, hands, ears with red-hot needles. Then, not having achieved anything from Maria Nikolaevna, they poisoned Vera. Maria Nikolaevna herself was subjected to inhuman torture. For 30 – 40 minutes, the German robbers forced her to stand barefoot in the snow, poured gasoline into her mouth, twisted her arms, and pricked her whole body. Dying from torture, Maria Nikolaevna did not say a single word about the partisans.

In the neighboring village of Maloye Petrovo, Hitler's cannibals forced all the adult working-age population to forced labor, and exterminated all children and old people. Having driven a 80 man into the barn, they poured gasoline over them and lit it. An hour later, only a pile of charred corpses remained in place. ”

The terrible picture was typical of the occupied territories of the USSR. But even amateurs cannot even blame the soldiers-liberators with Nazi thugs for accusing the Red Army men of such crimes.

War veteran poet David Samoilov argued that “the people of Germany could suffer even more if it were not for the Russian national character - gentleness, indecency, love of love, cordiality, lack of a sense of superiority, remnants of religious and internationalist consciousness in the thick mass of the soldiers. Germany in 45 was spared by the natural humanism of the Russian soldier ... "

The Soviet education also affected. The historian Anatoly Utkin in the book “World War II” rightly wrote: “It is impossible to imagine a Soviet teacher who would proclaim the organic superiority of the Soviet people over others. With any attitude to socialism, it is impossible to refute the fact that it did not proclaim national exclusivity, did not rank neighboring nations lower, did not appeal to the dark instincts of blood, did not give rise to arrogant arrogance. During the years of the desperate battle to save the country from the invading enemy in Russia, German thinkers and poets published it. Today, trying to equate the two polar value systems is possible only by betraying historical the truth in favor of the political malice of the day. "

As in any war, rape has occurred. They were also recorded in those areas of Germany, where the Americans, British and French entered.

The behavior of the allies of the American historian Charles MacDonald described as follows: “Robberies ranged from petty theft to theft of objects of exceptional value. Crimes such as desertion, misbehavior on the battlefield, murder, rape were also committed. When hostilities took on the nature of the pursuit of the enemy, the number of rapes sharply increased. ”

The most stringent measures against the rapists, including the execution, were applied by the Soviet command. Beevor lies, claiming that the Soviet fighters were not punished "for the very facts of the rape they committed. Punishments followed only when soldiers were infected from German women with a venereal disease. ”

A shock Germans really experienced. Here is the testimony of the Berliner Elizabeth Schmeer: ​​“On January 3 my son came on leave from the front. He served in the SS units. My son told me several times that the SS units in Russia did incredible things. If the Russians come here, they will not be “doused with rose oil”. It turned out quite differently: the defeated people, whose army caused so much misfortune to Russia, the winners give more food than the previous government gave us. It's hard for us to understand. Apparently, only Russians are capable of such humanism. ”

Life itself forced the Germans to change attitudes towards the Red Army.

And modern provocative "stuffing" about the fierce cruelty of the Red Army and "hundreds of thousands of raped German women" work on the myth promoted by the West about the equal responsibility of the USSR and Germany for initiating war and the crimes committed during it.

With the help of lies, the West expects to completely revise in its favor the geopolitical results of the Second World War.

Russians in Germany. truth against myth
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  1. Vard
    Vard 28 January 2018 05: 49
    +4
    Or maybe it was necessary to behave in Germany more harshly ... You look, you would be afraid ... But you think that now, in the case of everything, everything will get away with it ...
    1. gla172
      gla172 28 January 2018 06: 56
      +2
      .... what would mess the Honor of the uniform? ....
      1. Monarchist
        Monarchist 28 January 2018 09: 29
        +2
        To foul conscience
        1. nnz226
          nnz226 28 January 2018 22: 17
          +3
          Nope! According to the Bible: "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth!" So as not to think about the "ownerless land in the east"! Having cut one invader completely, they would have made the rest think: is it worth climbing into Russia ??? And now it would be good for our Ministry of Foreign Affairs to poke the face of Western politicians who are trying to teach us with their affairs. Especially Germans, and others are not better !!!
      2. Tochilka
        Tochilka 28 January 2018 22: 17
        +2
        To Zhukov, Serov, Telegin, and other carriers of general shoulder straps, this did not prevent looting.
    2. Fitter65
      Fitter65 28 January 2018 07: 28
      +3
      Quote: Vard
      Or maybe it was necessary to behave in Germany more harshly ...

      So they behaved very harshly in Germany, serving as security guards in concentration camps. I mean those scum of our society. Which we are not respected by different Bandera people. Vlasov and others like us. We are people and we should be proud of that ...
      1. Mikado
        Mikado 28 January 2018 12: 36
        +2
        So they behaved very harshly in Germany, serving as guards in concentration camps.

        add the word sarcasm. in Russia, these garbage also had enough work. Do you think where the supply of black SS tunics went (like that of Stirlitz)? so he left, sheathed at the edges with blue cloth - and the policeman uniform is ready! angry Germans generally sometimes tried not to dirty their hands. For why force the soldiers to engage in executions when it can be entrusted to various "good intentions" of the peoples of the USSR?
    3. Cat
      Cat 28 January 2018 07: 42
      10
      Unfortunately or not, "do not jump back for 70 years" and the situation cannot be corrected.
      In the memoirs of the "rapists of Europe", there are often lines that everyone from a simple soldier to a general fed children, women, old people of occupied Germany in various ways. Sometimes this was expressed in a pot of porridge and a loaf of bread, and in some cases ours pulled out a field kitchen to the crossroads and took a “foe” for allowance. All this, I am not afraid of the word, was massive. What is it? As the author suggested - a mixture of "remnants of religious consciousness and the beginnings of international education" - honestly? I do not know! It may just be humanity.
      Another story of my colleague came to mind - veteran V.S. Kugach. He spent his entire occupation as a child with his mother in western Ukraine. So he recalled that on the third day after his release he was knocked at night by an unarmed German, who on his knees with a photograph of his children in his arms, asked for a “bread”. Mother cut a third of loaf of bread, added shmat fat, gave everything to the “fascist” and said cross, “go with God". The German tried to push a cross for food, but the mother of the storyteller proudly refused "no demand." The German left with tears in his eyes.
      And now, colleagues, let’s think about what human qualities one should have in order to be a mother of three children, the wife of a Red Army soldier, having lived in an occupation for more than three years, on the third day after his release ......... find the strength to regret.
      You can search for true motives, terms and definitions of the action for a long time, but the main thing is that this is not an isolated case, this is not an exception to the rule, it is ..... just the humanity that was inherent in the overwhelming majority of the country's population.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 28 January 2018 08: 31
        +5
        Quote: Kotischa
        lived on western Ukraine. And now, colleagues, let’s think about what human qualities you need to have so that, as a mother of three children, the wife of a Red Army soldier, having lived in an occupation for more than three years, on the third day after his release ......... find the strength to regret.

        To be fair, in Western Ukraine there were no atrocities of the scale committed in the same Smolensk region. They lived the war relatively well, and enlisted in the Red Army in large numbers AFTER the liberation, in 1944.

        To the atrocities listed by the author in Smolensk, it is necessary to add that people were poisoned, buried alive in the ground, stole hundreds of thousands of children, of whom almost no one returned, the girls were raped and sent to brothels.,
        As the Commission pointed out: in many village councils it is not possible to draw up Acts of Atrocities in view of the complete destruction of the population. am

        It might not have been necessary to kill them, not very well, in Germany, but to REQUIRE to restore EACH pebble destroyed by them, the house and factory in our country, it was NECESSARY certainly ..
        And they were forgiven (reimbursed ..... FOUR percent of the damage !!) am - and this is a gross and unforgivable mistake of leadership. They still would have to go in rags, compensating for the destroyed ....
        1. Cat
          Cat 28 January 2018 14: 25
          +1
          Dear Olegovich, maybe We are already people of other values ​​and a different format! In my opinion, any intentional crime should be punishable by multiple cruelty, not only the criminal himself, but also those close to him who managed to get “dividends” from the criminal activity of the guilty. He took a bribe - built a house - got it? All movable and immovable property of the criminal and his close relatives who lived in the house - to the treasury, the criminal - to prison! So that his wife, children, parents grabbed the hand of the treasury even before he committed a criminal act.
          Although this cannot be extended to the category of crimes committed out of need. Sometimes colleagues are sickened to see how an 18-year-old kid gets the bicycle theft as much as a half-lama pulled from a municipality by a hot rogue.
          People of war, they are different, they are higher, cleaner, perhaps wiser and more naive. I myself read the verdict of the court, when a veteran robbed to the skin asked the judge to commute the sentence for juvenile nonhumans robbed him. I remember the phrase of the veteran, voiced by eyewitnesses of the court session "Your honor, they just did not see the war"?
          All the curtain! For most of Us - these are just words, for Our grandfathers - a marker, “Rubicon” that divides the present and the real.
          Regards, Your Cat!
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 28 January 2018 15: 09
            +1
            Quote: Kotischa
            People of war, they are different, they are higher, cleaner, perhaps wiser and more naive. I myself read the verdict of the court, when a veteran robbed to the skin asked the judge to commute the sentence for juvenile nonhumans robbed him. I remember the phrase of the veteran, voiced by eyewitnesses of the court session "Your honor, they just did not see the war"?
            All the curtain! For most of Us - these are just words, for Our grandfathers - a marker, “Rubicon” that divides the present and the real.

            Dear Kitty!
            I agree with you, but I spoke a little about something else: that at the state level it was impossible to forgive: it was necessary to restore ALL that was destroyed at the expense of Germany.
            They lived much better after the war than we did. We also helped. And this is wrong. Absolutely. hi
            1. Cat
              Cat 28 January 2018 15: 27
              +1
              Dear Olegovich, literally before the year before the year before last, a German turbine at a CHPP exported from Germany from Germany worked in Sredneuralsk. Now it is a museum exhibit.
              There was reparation for damage, but alas, it was insufficient. We believe that it’s not enough, the Germans are many, our grandfathers made a broad gesture at one time. Do they remember him in modern Germany? I think no!
              Alas, history has no syllable declension.
              So what can we do? Reprimand our grandfathers? I think we just need to be proud of them and remember, remember and remember again!
              1. Looking for
                Looking for 28 January 2018 23: 36
                -1
                But who will be remembered? Majors of different ranks? Or that boy .in the German Bundestag?
              2. Olgovich
                Olgovich 29 January 2018 09: 27
                0
                Quote: Kotischa
                There was reparation for damage, but alas it was insufficient

                FOUR percent has been reimbursed - NOTHING!
                Quote: Kotischa
                We believe that it’s not enough, the Germans are many, our grandfathers made a broad gesture at one time. Do they remember him in modern Germany? I think no!

                The Germans were not supposed to be considered, they lost. But to us they consider everything to a penny. And no one asked our grandfathers, excuse me: the decision was made by the leadership. And the decision is deeply and fundamentally wrong: neither the Allies in the end, nor the compensation, but AGAIN there is the strongest hostile Germany. The grossest miscalculation.
                Quote: Kotischa
                So what can we do? Reprimand our grandfathers? I think we just need to be proud of them and remember, remember and remember again!

                Grandfathers, the lowest bow, these are holy people.
                Leadership no.
      2. Mikado
        Mikado 28 January 2018 12: 30
        +2
        Sometimes this was expressed in a pot of porridge and a loaf of bread, and in some cases ours pulled out a field kitchen to the crossroads and took a “foe” for allowance.

        Popel has a description of this. When Me-262 flies up during such feeding and fire at the kitchen and the soldiers gathered around it and our Germans.
        Representatives of Western civilization buried them alive ...

        I found information that some of them were poisoned, some were shot. Nobody would suffer with the burial alive, the Germans are a practical people, even in the guts, everything should be quick and clear. That is, despite the fact that German nonhumans did their deeds on children, no need to engage in "spectacular speculation", or links to the studio! Yes, my friends, you know what struck me the most? In the Kerch museum near Mount Mithridates there are toys of these children with whom they were before the execution. Look, the tears are welling up, and the fists are clenching ... am
        1. Cat
          Cat 28 January 2018 14: 36
          +1
          In search of the truth, dear Nikolai, I ran into an interesting psychological factor when various scientific seminars, symposia and round tables were held with the invitation of foreigners. Their veterans and older people recognized the fact that they and their parents brought terrible misfortune and grief to the territory of the USSR. Moreover, all of them without exception pointed to the humanism of the Red Army. The younger generation tended to bargain with us. Moreover, our right-wingers poured water to the mill of history. “Before Lily” Last year we got “Kolya from Urengoy”?
          Question Nikolai, what will happen next?
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 28 January 2018 16: 40
            +2
            I don’t know .. Kolya is a juvenile coffin, you’ll say something in your ears. I hope he still changes his mind. There should be an adequate legislative policy regarding HISTORY with prohibitive measures! While I have it at the President and the Government, and I don’t see it in the State Duma ... but it’s time! am
            1. Cat
              Cat 28 January 2018 18: 25
              +2
              Today I wandered around the city in a car and listened to the "enemy radio" - Echo of Moscow.
              So there they "crumpled sisi" on the topic of protectionism of publishing houses in preparation for printing textbooks of the History of Russia. Unfortunately, I did not hear the name of the company representative, but I honestly admired his answers to the provocative questions of the host. In a word, smart. Question-trap - by, question - by, question - by. By the way, he unscrewed the host even for indirect advertising. And so throughout the airtime!
              As far as I understood from the air all the textbooks of the History of Russia undergo four expert evaluations. Two pundits and two community organizations. In principle, the filters are pretty good with the participation of the RAS. But? is that enough? Question? Very bold question mark!
              I would look for trouble on the other hand. A textbook is not a panacea in the educational process; it’s really only 10 information packs that a student or student receives. More important for students to master the material is not the textbook, but the teacher. And here in schools the real one is “seams”. The situation of Russian roulette, lucky or unlucky. Here, the salary of a teacher does not even decide, since the schools are filled with illiterate, incompetent teachers who, sadly not only, don’t like their profession, do not know their subject and hate the children. So if we want to get a result, then it is necessary to conduct re-certification of all teachers and officials from education.
              With universities, another trouble. The system of foreign grants, the exaltation of the Bologna system of education and mediocre salary created in the scientific community a layer of "fake intelligentsia from science" which fiercely hates the Motherland. The worst thing is that they both feed the younger generation. These are the sad thoughts of Nikolai!
          2. Knizhnik
            Knizhnik 29 January 2018 08: 58
            +2
            The theme of “repentance” in the post-war period was seriously present; Do not forget, there was the GDR. How to lighten the burden of responsibility: either repent (those who served and supported, their majority), or disown (anti-fascists and other resistance, their minority). In addition, until recently the Germans were crushed (maybe even now crushed) by Germans, Jews, all who were under occupation (more than all Poles), and of course the “allies”. Grandchildren and great-grandchildren, who know little about the war and do not understand why they should also repent, are annoyed. Hence the need for false memoirs ("we did not commit atrocities, these are units from the SS and local policemen"), pseudo-historical research on millions of raped Germans (like we also had a bad time), so we got to Kolya (stop repenting, the Russians already felt sorry for the unfortunate soldiers Wehrmacht). The German society was "transmitted", and we did not.
    4. urman
      urman 28 January 2018 09: 12
      +2
      Quote: Vard
      Or maybe it was necessary to behave in Germany more harshly ... You look now would be afraid ...

      A strange regularity, the harder the winners behave towards the conquered, the stronger then the conquered are friends, after the war, with the conquerors.
      Apparently geyropeytsy perceive humanism as a weakness.
      So they get out, really it was necessary to be tougher with them.
      And already in the 50s, the Germans began to organize demonstrations, it was necessary as with the puppies, FU can not be slipped on the ears.
  2. Moore
    Moore 28 January 2018 06: 47
    +5
    Russian national character

    My grandmother told such a story about the "German national character."
    She and her grandfather were in Germany as part of the occupation group of forces in 46-48. They were assigned a housekeeper (she called her name, but I don’t remember, let it be Greta), aunt of grenadier growth and stature. When meeting me, I beat myself in the hero’s chest and thundered that "ich - Kommunist !!"
    One day this lady comes - buried, in snot and tears.
    Granny: "Greta, what happened ??!"
    Greta: "Frau Oberst, husband from captivity is back !!"
    Granny: "Oh, without arm (legs), sick ??"
    Greta: "No, everything is in place!" And the former cry roars ...
    Granny: "Greta, you have to be so happy !!"
    Greta: "Frau Oberst, you have no idea how much he eats !!!"
    From so ...
    1. gla172
      gla172 28 January 2018 06: 56
      +4
      .... and my grandmother told how in their village (in the Pskov region) when the Germans were advancing, punitive detachments of Estonians followed them, and the Germans told them (children) to hide ... because. Estonians did not spare anyone, they shot everyone .....
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 28 January 2018 07: 22
        +4
        they were followed by punitive detachments of Estonians


        This is the Estonian punitive platoon of Alexander Piegli.
        And these are their victims ...
        “I remember very well that Aluoy was the first to shoot. He shot a child, ”from testimony given during an investigation by Estonian punisher Anne Oodla, who was directly involved in the destruction of the village of Laneva Gora.


        So the current Estonian government can be presented with a big bill for the killing of thousands of Russian people in the Pskov region.
        http://smolbattle.ru/threads/Эстонские-каратели-н
        a-Pskov. 12118 /
        1. Yura Yakovlev
          Yura Yakovlev 28 January 2018 10: 12
          +1
          Many future legionnaires of the Latvian SS divisions were quenched in the north-west of Russia. The Wehrmacht command in the occupied territories entrusted the dirty work to police punishers, mainly Estonians and Latvians. They had self-interest here.
          Here is what the doctor of historical sciences, professor of Novgorod University Boris Kovalev says: “Wehrmacht officers assigned the task of cleansing this territory of the“ undesirable national element ”to punitive detachments under military commandants. They were all formed from residents of Estonia and Latvia ... Third Reich leadership promised to include Novgorod and Pskov lands in the structure of “Great Estonia” and “Great Latvia.” This served as one of the pretexts for the use of punishers from the Baltic states against civilians. Estonians and Latvians who “stood up to fight Bolshevism” were promised significant land holdings in the north –Western of Russia "
          1. Yura Yakovlev
            Yura Yakovlev 28 January 2018 10: 29
            +2
            Latvian forces took part in the operations Swamp Fever and Winter Magic.
            As a result of the only punitive action "Winter Magic" in the Vitebsk and Pskov regions were killed,
            up to 15 thousand people were burned alive, and many were sent to camps and driven to Germany.
            During 1942-44, several large Latvian police units were operating in the territory of the Novgorod and Pskov regions.
            The Germans often entrusted them with the most dirty and bloody “work”.

            The peasants of the Pskov region, who survived this terrible time, said that the Germans, before leaving, warned them that
            that they should be saved and leave their villages, because "soon the Latvians will come and burn everyone."
            One of the largest places of mass destruction of civilians and captured Red Army soldiers in northwestern Russia
            It was located in the village of Zhestyanaya Gorka, Batetsky district.

            The punitive detachment stationed here was staffed mainly by the inhabitants of Latvia.
            Back in January 1942, a review of intelligence information of the NKVD Directorate for the Leningrad Region noted:
            “Punitive detachments from Latvians, Estonians and Finns are especially atrocious among the local population.”
    2. Cat
      Cat 28 January 2018 07: 02
      0
      Thanks for the story!
      The proverb “What is good for the Russian, the Germans - death” came up in my head.
      1. Cat
        Cat 28 January 2018 08: 20
        +2
        Hmm ...? Somehow stupid it turned out he answered Moore's comment, but it turned out what
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 28 January 2018 08: 27
    +3
    A modern provocative "stuffing" about the brutal cruelty of the Red Army
    ... So these stuffing is done not only by Western historians, but also by Russian and it began at the "sunset" of perestroika .. Brains have been washed for more than twenty years ...
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 28 January 2018 08: 55
      +2
      The problem of a worthy answer to slanderous fabrications is that documents are classified. And this makes it possible to build speculation on separate examples. Everything would be open ... there would be nothing to speculate on.
      1. Monarchist
        Monarchist 28 January 2018 09: 54
        +1
        V.O., how can we explain that we have all this stored under the heading "secretly"?
  4. Monarchist
    Monarchist 28 January 2018 09: 41
    +2
    Quote: Vard
    Or maybe it was necessary to behave in Germany more harshly ... You look, you would be afraid ... But you think that now, in the case of everything, everything will get away with it ...

    As early as the beginning of the 19th century, they spoke of Russian soldiers: “in battle as a lion, and after the battle as a brother”.
    What I agree with you is that hell wasn’t to tear off the last piece from myself in order to nurse the “brothers in the socialist community”. One "wise guy" came up with a "socialist community and fraternity", and went and went. And where is this "brotherhood" now?
    1. Train
      Train 28 January 2018 10: 16
      +1
      before an order was issued about violence and looting — and he didn’t leave right away — they gave our brother a walk there, from the heart ...
      1. nnz226
        nnz226 28 January 2018 22: 22
        0
        Only a little bit in East Prussia! Yes, there are few Germans left who did not run away. A friend had a father in the Marine Corps - he said that the Germans were graduating. But they didn’t burn them in the sheds, and they didn’t shoot them in the ditches. One case was when a grenade was thrown into a room with civil Germans ...
  5. Monarchist
    Monarchist 28 January 2018 09: 51
    +2
    Quote: gla172
    .... and my grandmother told how in their village (in the Pskov region) when the Germans were advancing, punitive detachments of Estonians followed them, and the Germans told them (children) to hide ... because. Estonians did not spare anyone, they shot everyone .....

    We did not have Estonians, but there were Romanians and Hungarians. And the old people said: from the Romanian, like the sent dog, you can’t hide anything: they will find and steal. And the Hungarians were remembered for their cruelty.
    A guy told me that in western Ukraine and at the beginning of the seventies they cursed: "your Magyar’s face"
  6. Train
    Train 28 January 2018 10: 12
    +1
    Another humorist-truth-seeker. And once again, from memory, I’ll write the order of the regiment read out by him before the formation (in private) before the unit entered the territory of Germany ..
    You are on the threshold of the country of those who killed, raped, tortured your wives, mothers and children. And if you enter the city, know this is your city, the house in this city is your home, the woman in this house is yours, the ring on Her hand is now yours. Go and kill, and we went, and we killed ... Rape, murder, and everything that accompanies the war, we also carried like the Germans four years earlier. Stalin's order on looting and violence came out only after what at that time, and to stop the flow of revenge of those whose houses were destroyed and the relatives were not killed immediately, he still walked for some time by inertia despite the tribunals and courts.
    I read the veteran’s memoirs not so long ago: our regiment (part of it), an artillery regiment, was marching under attack by SS units. All were killed, only one guy climbed a tree and later testified that after all the women and children, teenagers knives and pistols and finished off the wounded soldiers. Pulling up the tanks, a little indignant, we entered the city ... When we left it there was no city, no SS soldiers or women or children. We cut everyone out ...
    Such material that the veterans themselves provided is enough for me ... do not write here fairy tales about super kind Russians, for me duck to turn all of Germany into the surface of the moon ..
  7. The Sparkle
    The Sparkle 28 January 2018 12: 21
    +4
    Quote: Zug
    Another humorist-truth-seeker. And once again, from memory I’ll write an order from the regiment read to him before the formation (in private) before the unit entered the territory of Germany ....

    In "private" - how is it? I understand that this order is nothing more than an "excess of the executor" - a specific commander, and not an order of the highest command? It is not worth it because of individuals to blame in a crowd all Russians.
    Quote: Zug

    ... do not write here fairy tales about super kind Russians, for me, duck to turn all of Germany into the surface of the moon ..
    If you personally are such a bloodthirsty organism, then speak for yourself personally, and not the whole of Russia.
    1. Nehist
      Nehist 29 January 2018 01: 19
      +2
      Well, suppose you should then read Erinburg's articles. Comrade Alexandrov himself (one of Stalin's pseudonyms) even pulled him off, indicating to him that it was not necessary to identify all Germans. So at the initial stage of operations in Germany itself, the excesses were quite significant. But as soon as possible were suppressed.
      1. Huumi
        Huumi 30 January 2018 12: 01
        0
        Yes, weeks 2-3. Then all-executions. I even heard that the mothers were German and they themselves came for rapists asking that they would not kill. Ours all the same-Clap!
    2. Huumi
      Huumi 30 January 2018 11: 53
      0
      The story of the tankman:
      they gave me the task of arriving in city N by so many hours — we went — along the way there is a column of refugees, well, there are carts, people — all lumpy and warriors and civilians — I’m gritting what? —Will I stop a column of tanks and wait until they clear my way? people for 10 kilometers! the crowd wanders no end — I have an order — failure to fulfill — nothing good. And they went to crush them with caterpillars — who managed to jump back — escaped — who didn’t — smeared — Still questions?
  8. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 28 January 2018 14: 06
    +6
    ((Having tied Vale’s hands, these wild animals in her eyes cut off Nina and Grisha’s right ears, then they poked out the left eye of the boy, the girl cut off all five fingers on her right hand. Valia could not endure these wild tortures and died of a heart attack. Tormented to death the Nazi executioners were taken to the forest and thrown into the snow, and we buried their corpses in the same grave with Valya.
    The executioners acted brutally with the girl of the teacher Maria Nikolaevna. Knowing that her husband is in a partisan detachment, the savages began to torment her daughter Vera. To a six-year-old girl they pricked their palms, hands, ears with red-hot needles. Then, having obtained nothing from Maria Nikolaevna, they poisoned Vera. Maria Nikolaevna herself was subjected to inhuman torture. For 30-40 minutes, the German robbers forced her to stand barefoot in the snow, poured gasoline into her mouth, twisted her arms, pricked her whole body. Dying from torture, Maria Nikolaevna did not say a single word about the partisans.))
    And "Kolenka from Novy Urengoy" does not know about it ... but he "studied in detail the biography of Georg Johan Rau" !!!
  9. Declarant
    Declarant 28 January 2018 23: 47
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    Told a colleague of my father. He was a front-line soldier. Took Konigsberg. We went into the apartment on the 4th floor. There is a German family. They sit like a mouse. I liked our young German lieutenant. He led her into the bedroom. After a while, a shot. We burst into the room. A German with a lieutenant’s gun, he’s dead. Without hesitation, they threw it off the 4th floor under the tracks of the tank column. In war as in war. PS The rest of the family were not touched.
    1. Huumi
      Huumi 30 January 2018 11: 57
      0
      I read the veteran, they drove along the bridge in tanks — a shot from above from the Faust. When we were there, the Cossacks were-the guys were warming — they jumped down at once and a few minutes later the old woman screamed from the third floor to the bridge-clap! Boys went out and told her son died in Russia, she decided to take revenge. On my question, why did they beat her? They said, hut her? She shot? -Well ...
  10. Fisherman
    Fisherman 29 January 2018 12: 46
    +1
    Remember the Mikhalkov Citadel. At the end of the film, a Russian woman (Inna Churikova) and Fritz are shell-shocked. Here is the answer to all of you, Russian mercy, even to an evil enemy ...
  11. captain
    captain 29 January 2018 17: 00
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    "The Soviet education also affected. The historian Anatoly Utkin rightly wrote in the book" World War II: "It is impossible to imagine a Soviet teacher who would proclaim the organic superiority of the Soviet people over others. With any attitude to socialism, it is impossible to refute the fact that he did not proclaim national exclusivity, did not rank neighboring nations lower, did not appeal to the dark instincts of blood, did not give rise to arrogant arrogance.In the years of a desperate battle to save the country from the invading enemy in Ro The Russian Orthodox Church published German thinkers and poets. Trying to put an equal sign between the two polar value systems today is possible only by betraying historical truth in favor of the political malice of the day. "
    It turns out who instilled peace in Russian people. While reading Tolstoy, Davydov, Derzhavin thought that they were writing the truth about the Russians and their peacefulness. The damned bourgeois lied. And in 1814 in Paris, apparently ours did terrible things over Parisians. After all, Utkin was not then, and there was no Soviet teacher. And interestingly, the cursed West is not silent about the atrocities of the Russians at that time. Caricatures are drawn and in unison with the author a verb about the pathological bestial hatred of Russians towards Europeans, until 1917. Both Marx and Engels also write about us as barbarians. The guys are red-flagged, I explain to you that the Russian man was resourceful even before 1917. Germans, French, Swedes and even Poles wrote about this; all who have been in captivity with us. And with all due respect to Soviet teachers, they were brought up and taught by tsarist teachers, not the sailor Zheleznyak and not Budyonny (with my great respect for the personal bravery of the Marshal).