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Germany suspends arms supplies to Turkey

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The next manifestation of friction in relations between the NATO powers was not long in coming. After quite harsh statements by US President Donald Trump that Turkey should curtail the operation in Syrian Afrin and prevent clashes with the US military, it was Germany’s turn. It became known that the German authorities decided to suspend the execution of the contract with Ankara for the supply of weapons.


German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel confirms information about the freezing of the program for the supply of military equipment to Turkey.

German media have attributed such a move by the German government to the operation of Turkish troops in northern Syria. We are talking about the operation "Olive Branch", which is carried out by order of Erdogan against the Kurdish armed groups.

At the same time in the German Cabinet made it clear that the decision to freeze the supply of arms to Ankara was made "before the formation of the new government." Here we must take into account the fact that Germany has not been able to form a new government for several months. How long the formation process will last - even the leading German experts cannot say.

Germany suspends arms supplies to Turkey


Against this background, it became known that Germany is suspending the implementation of the modernization program. tanks Leopard. Earlier, such a program was requested for joint execution by Ankara.
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  1. ufpb
    ufpb 25 January 2018 16: 41
    +7
    Is Turkey leaving NATO?
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 25 January 2018 16: 49
      +6
      If the states also refuse to sell at least partly for equipment or repairs. For example, serve the F-16. That the Turks will definitely have nothing to do in NATO.
      S-400 is certainly not purchased against the Russian Federation. wink
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 25 January 2018 17: 00
        12
        Turkey into allies and block the entrance to the Black Sea? Independent This is definitely not going to like it! They will complain to Tillerson and ask for NATO ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 25 January 2018 17: 06
          11
          Nobody will let Turkey out of NATO, rather Erdogan will be sent to Russia or somewhere else, I do not want this, but the stakes are very high.
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 25 January 2018 17: 17
            10
            Man, hardly Erdogan is now so easy to take, especially after the assassination attempt! He holds power tightly in his hands ... If he says, then they will come out! But it is unlikely that the United States gives them a great deal of slap for their stay in NATO. But nerves shakes everyone. Both ours and yours!
            1. cniza
              cniza 25 January 2018 17: 23
              +5
              Yes, everything is not simple, but he really knocked down the army and the security forces, transplanting “disloyal” officers, the situation can be blown up even in his environment, this is the East - everything is bought and sold there.
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 25 January 2018 23: 14
                +3
                Maybe not only crippled but also cleaned of extra people?

                In general, while I tell you, the first results of the Turkish operation in Syria please ...
                God forbid, of course, that there would be less blood there.
            2. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 25 January 2018 17: 28
              11
              Quote: Anarchist

              1
              Anarchist Today, 17:17 PM ↑ New
              Man, hardly Erdogan is now so easy to take, especially after the assassination attempt! He holds power tightly in his hands ..

              In Latin America, three presidents simultaneously fell ill with cancer. Peace be upon them. Everyone was in opposition to Obama and held on to power ...
              1. Yujanin.
                Yujanin. 25 January 2018 20: 12
                +1
                In Latin America, three presidents simultaneously fell ill with cancer.

                Rumor has it that after the coup Erdogan travels with his field kitchen.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 25 January 2018 20: 19
                  +2
                  He does it right, but there are many other ways.
                2. Scoun
                  Scoun 25 January 2018 21: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: Yujanin.
                  In Latin America, three presidents simultaneously fell ill with cancer.

                  Rumor has it that after the coup Erdogan travels with his field kitchen.

                  Already proven but not advertised, "cancer" is contagious.
          2. Pirogov
            Pirogov 25 January 2018 17: 18
            10
            Quote: cniza
            Nobody will let Turkey out of NATO, rather Erdogan will be sent to Russia or somewhere else, I do not want this, but the stakes are very high.

            If Turkey leaves NATA, then mattresses can forget about politics in the east, and Jews will be hurt ........... and beloved friends of the United States, Saudis, Qatari, etc. can send Uncle Sema to UD. Therefore, Turkey’s withdrawal from NATO is simply not realistic.
            1. Vladimir16
              Vladimir16 25 January 2018 17: 37
              0
              Quote: Pirogov
              Therefore, Turkey’s withdrawal from NATO is simply not realistic.

              Politics is unpredictable. And if the mattresses leave NATO for example? But will NATO set these very mattresses on the Turks?
              The war in Europe is at hand with Russia.
              Mattresses by this German act pit Germans and Turks. It's only the beginning...
            2. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 25 January 2018 18: 08
              +2
              Quote: Pirogov

              If Turkey leaves NATA, then mattresses can forget about politics in the east, and Jews will be hurt ........... and beloved friends of the United States, Saudis, Qatari, etc. can send Uncle Sema to UD. Therefore, Turkey’s withdrawal from NATO is simply not realistic.

              Pancake. How many specialists in BV. Guys, deal with your closest neighbors.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 25 January 2018 22: 10
                +4
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                Quote: Pirogov

                If Turkey leaves NATA, then mattresses can forget about politics in the east, and Jews will be hurt ........... and beloved friends of the United States, Saudis, Qatari, etc. can send Uncle Sema to UD. Therefore, Turkey’s withdrawal from NATO is simply not realistic.

                Pancake. How many specialists in BV. Guys, deal with your closest neighbors..
                laughing But where to keep track of all that? Each neighbor masturbates, but the distant neighbor makes it louder wink It is clear that mattresses will never go to break with Ankara in terms of its loss as a member of NATO. All the same, they would prefer the elimination of Erdogan and the "appointment of his sultan." Surely Edik is not going to go anywhere, but realizing the importance of Turkey for the United States in the Middle East, he has his trump cards, which now allow him to: A) jump out of NATO's role assigned to Turkey as a meek ally, into the role of the main regional player, which will not be equal among all NATO members. B) - Play a role in the collapse of NATO, through the termination of its membership in the bloc and the announcement of the status of Turkey as a neutral country, with the subsequent determination of the status of a possible ally, after which a golden rain will pour on Ankara. After Russia at ease for two years kicked the fifth point to 60 countries of the American coalition on the Syrian issue, Eddie understands that Russia is near, and the United States is overseas. In addition, Edik understands that if not today, then literally tomorrow, China can give much more than the United States or Europe, which for half a century has been unsuccessfully accepting Turkey into the European Union.
              2. Hanokem
                Hanokem 27 January 2018 10: 36
                +1
                Aron how do you like in Poland?
          3. Bullba
            Bullba 25 January 2018 17: 37
            0
            Quote: cniza
            Nobody will let Turkey out of NATO, rather Erdogan will be sent to Russia or somewhere else, I do not want this, but the stakes are very high.

            Already tried
          4. Assyrian
            Assyrian 25 January 2018 19: 41
            0
            Quote: cniza
            soon Erdogan will be sent to Russia

            So in Russia you will not save cities. Russia is not rubber laughing
        2. ivanec
          ivanec 25 January 2018 17: 15
          +2
          according to an international treaty, it is possible to block the Black Sea only in case of war ...
        3. Antares
          Antares 25 January 2018 23: 21
          +2
          Quote: Anarchist
          Turkey into allies and block the entrance to the Black Sea? Independent This is definitely not going to like it! They will complain to Tillerson and ask for NATO ...

          Montreux Convention. Access to the state with access to the Black Sea is guaranteed, unless Turkey is at war with it.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 25 January 2018 23: 35
            +6
            Quote: Antares
            Montreux Convention

            Right Educational program for local Aborigines. If only they read at least a thread before writing something ...
      2. protoss
        protoss 25 January 2018 23: 15
        +1
        For example, service F-16

        Spare parts for f16 are made in Turkey, there is not a screwdriver assembly, but it seems like a complete cycle, including engines.
      3. Hanokem
        Hanokem 27 January 2018 10: 35
        +1
        The Turks have long had nothing to do in NATO. I am most concerned about the upcoming delivery of the F-35 Ottomans. This is the real problem.
    2. Berber
      Berber 25 January 2018 16: 50
      +1
      I honestly thought about that too. The United States thinks that the differences are temporary. And an ally with such a strategic position is reluctant to lose.
      1. Crowe
        Crowe 25 January 2018 17: 09
        +6
        The affectionate calf of two mothers sucks. Erdogan is of course hard to call affectionate, even with a stretch, but is capricious so that everyone wants to please the little one. What he willingly use.
    3. Rusland
      Rusland 25 January 2018 16: 54
      10
      It is unlikely that they know too much, and they have a common enemy with NATO (We), there are no allies, although ambitions are higher than the roof.
    4. garx
      garx 25 January 2018 17: 02
      +2
      The US is easier to change the Turkish government than to let go of NATO!
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 25 January 2018 17: 10
        +3
        So already tried, and thereby showed Erdogan that they think about him.
        The Germans had previously pulled out their Patriots and planes from the Ingirlik, and now they will not sell BC for their Leopards. The United States is able to nullify the aviation of the Turks (the basis of the Air Force 200 F-16). And the Turks will remain with their fleet, but without a BC for him. The Turks certainly produce something, but it must be assumed that they will not be able to compensate for the sanctions of the “allies”.
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 25 January 2018 17: 31
          +6
          Quote: Kasym
          The Turks certainly produce something, but it must be assumed that they will not be able to compensate for the sanctions of the “allies”.

          The United States has already imposed an embargo on arms sales to Turkey several decades ago. And the sky did not fall to the earth. The Turks somehow survived that time. And this time they will survive.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 25 January 2018 17: 42
            +3
            Especially. Does it make sense to remain in an alliance that is "throwing" in difficult times? Or will they continue to create the illusion of a military fraternity in NATO? And they can also bungle the color revolution.
            By and large, we need countries to defend their national interests, rather than dancing to the tune of the database. The same is with Turkey. Enough energy interest.
        2. Orionvit
          Orionvit 25 January 2018 18: 15
          +2
          Quote: Kasym
          The Germans had previously pulled out their Patriots and planes from the Ingirlik, and now they will not sell BC for their Leopards. US able to nullify Turkish aviation

          Nowadays, everything is easily sold and bought through third countries. Moreover, the NATO armament is standardized, the Germans will not sell the BK, then someone else will do it.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 25 January 2018 20: 44
            +2
            I agree, but there is a political component. The US will threaten and refuse to service those aircraft. Iranian history is an example. For example, little is left of military aircraft in Iran.
            But judging by the S-400, the Turks can find an alternative. By the way, like the Germans refused the engine for their Altai tank. They have already seriously strained relations between themselves - at once "not to stick together". Especially against the backdrop of statements that the Turks have no place in the EU. Although for the Turks, the EU market is more important than ours.
    5. Tusv
      Tusv 25 January 2018 17: 21
      0
      Quote: ufpb
      Is Turkey leaving NATO?

      Why not? A neighbor on the southern coast of Crimea finally has nothing. It is like a peasant. Is there a shovel or not
    6. Piramidon
      Piramidon 25 January 2018 17: 28
      +1
      Quote: ufpb
      Is Turkey leaving NATO?

      Call number 1
    7. izya top
      izya top 25 January 2018 17: 30
      +1
      Quote: ufpb
      Is Turkey leaving NATO?

      definitely NO..and Angelica in their repertoire, offend the “Izakaturkanyh” request
      but no matter how the Yankees tried to "curb" Edik, he then realized, you can have a profit between Moscow and Washington request
    8. Orionvit
      Orionvit 25 January 2018 18: 09
      0
      Quote: ufpb
      Is Turkey leaving NATO?

      No, this is NATO leaving Turkey. Having previously pulled it into some sort of adventure. What has already begun.
    9. siberalt
      siberalt 25 January 2018 18: 16
      0
      Turkey will not leave NATO, and will buy weapons from Russia. lol
  2. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 25 January 2018 16: 43
    +1
    Not only that, the modernization of the same Leopard 2 is threatened, and you can get sanctioned faces.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 25 January 2018 17: 12
      +1
      Quote: katalonec2014
      Not only that, the modernization of the same Leopard 2 is threatened,

      I read about it - modernization for protection against mines. I can’t imagine what can be done with the tank in this regard. Attach a trawl if only.
  3. 210ox
    210ox 25 January 2018 16: 44
    +7
    The Germans are at great risk of turning the Turkish diaspora against themselves inside the country. However, they will no longer get used to it. Soon the Germans will wear hijabs ..
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 25 January 2018 17: 03
      +3
      The Germans constantly troll the Turk .... last time they refused to re-export MTU tank diesels. The Turks were unable to export SPGs and Altai Tanks. Let them learn from their mistakes.
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 25 January 2018 17: 32
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      Soon the German hijabs will dress ..

      It’s easier for them to take off their underpants before the Turks.
  4. Rusland
    Rusland 25 January 2018 16: 48
    12
    We will not leave Turkey in trouble, especially for big money.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 25 January 2018 16: 54
      +3
      We can throw them from the storage of the BTR-60 ...
      Quote: Rusland
      We will not leave Turkey in trouble, especially for big money.
      1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 25 January 2018 17: 01
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        We can throw them from the storage of the BTR-60 ...

        They already have museum and tank troops. The Turkish armed forces deployed M48A5T1 tanks to the border to participate in Operation Olive Branch.
        1. arutun
          arutun 25 January 2018 17: 19
          13
          Why are they bad? In Syria, the T-62 is showing excellent results, but there aren’t enough new modern tanks at all, it’s a pity to throw them into a meat grinder, they are expensive, how many leopards were knocked out in the last "campaign". A leopard will be many times more expensive, and a modern ATGM makes no difference that he is the one. So they save, everything is logical.
          1. prosto_rgb
            prosto_rgb 25 January 2018 17: 34
            +1
            Quote: arutun
            A leopard will be many times more expensive, and a modern ATGM makes no difference that he is the one. So they save, everything is logical.

            Exactly
            A modern tank without KAZ is like a tank with bulletproof armor in 1943
            of course he will ride and even shoot, but for how long ...
      2. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 25 January 2018 17: 33
        +1
        Quote: 210ox
        210quq Today, 16:54 ↑ New
        We can throw them from the storage of the BTR-60 ...
        Quote: Rusland
        We will not leave Turkey in trouble, especially for big money.

        Turks already have a certain amount of BTR-80.
  5. Masya masya
    Masya masya 25 January 2018 16: 56
    +6
    yourself little? recourse
  6. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 25 January 2018 17: 01
    +1
    Everything is beautiful, but why did the Saudis not stop deliveries ??? they’ve been fighting in Yemen for the fifth year already.
    1. kubanec
      kubanec 25 January 2018 17: 33
      +1
      ------------ Everything is beautiful, but why did the Saudis not stop deliveries ??? ------------ they have OIL
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 25 January 2018 17: 35
      +1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      but why did the Saudis not stop deliveries

      because they are allies of the USA
      but would be allies of the Russian Federation would have long ceased.
  7. uskrabut
    uskrabut 25 January 2018 17: 17
    +7
    As I understand it, Turkey is in NATO, like that Caucasian shepherd dog that even the owner is afraid of and goes to feed armed with a club.
  8. genisis
    genisis 25 January 2018 17: 26
    +2
    The Turks did not even know where to get the engine for Altai Taankans of their own design, the Germans hoped. And here, apparently, his own tank is completely shelved. And what kind of relations were proud. They even shared production orders between their plants. But not fate
  9. afrikanez
    afrikanez 25 January 2018 18: 00
    +1
    One click of the fingers is enough and Germany immediately (like a shepherd dog) rushes at the "offender", the great and terrible USA. Madhouse!
  10. Firework
    Firework 25 January 2018 18: 15
    +1
    Turkey is a novice aggressor, only gaining experience. The entire world community should ban the sale of weapons and their spare parts to Turkey as well as dual-use technologies
  11. Paradoksov friend
    Paradoksov friend 25 January 2018 18: 15
    +3
    Leopards burn like candles, Turks are unhappy, have lost more than a dozen tanks in a collision with the Kurds, the Syrians pumped Soviet junk turned out to be survivable than the boiled leopards ...
  12. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 25 January 2018 20: 46
    +3
    They will take 90 MS, a holy place does not happen ...
    1. Trn
      Trn 25 January 2018 22: 12
      +1
      they have 3500 tanks ... there’s no hurry, they’ll wait for Altai, Ukrainians will put engines and transfer technologies
    2. Trn
      Trn 25 January 2018 22: 26
      +1
      they have 4500 tanks ... there’s no hurry, they’ll wait for Altai, Ukrainians will put engines and transfer technologies
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 26 January 2018 00: 52
        +1
        There were normal like there were only 340+ Leo 2, and so basically
        the old 400pcs + leo 1, and 1000pcs + m 60.
        But for me this is not serious, especially considering the fact that they often fight ...
        1. Trn
          Trn 26 January 2018 13: 12
          +1
          Well, part of these M60s has been upgraded by Israel to Sabr ... so that is enough for now, they can wait for Altai .... in the Russian army, too, not all T-90 and T-72b3 tanks ...
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  14. Bypassed
    Bypassed 25 January 2018 22: 41
    +2
    Quite by chance, two events coincided in time:
    1. Obtaining an official permit from Turkey for the construction of 2 pipelines to Turkey
    2. The withdrawal of Russian military experts from the conflict zone Kurds-Turks.

    Gazprom received permission from the Turkish authorities to build the second line of the Turkish Stream gas pipeline. About this on Friday, January 19, writes TASS with reference to the head of the company Alexei Miller.
    “Today, permission was received to lay the second string in the exclusive economic zone and territorial waters of Turkey,” he said.
    According to Miller, both pipelines will be put into operation before the end of 2019.
    It is noted that Gazprom’s investments in the Turkish Stream project for 2018 are planned in the amount of 182,4 billion rubles (about $ 3,2 billion) against 92,8 billion rubles (about $ 1,6 billion) in 2017. The cost of building the Turkish stream is estimated at $ 6 billion.

    It seems that the Germans are behaving in vain. They can fly by.
    Has one country given the Turks a loan for the purchase of S-400? It will also give for the purchase of Russian tanks in return for the ones burned.
    1. Yujanin.
      Yujanin. 25 January 2018 22: 54
      0
      On the catcher and the beast runs (s)
  15. friend of animals
    friend of animals 26 January 2018 00: 42
    +1
    An extremely contradictory and proud character is this sultan., But not 9urak. Therefore, he will not leave NATO anywhere and will agree on the Kurds with the United States. And against European indignation, he has a lever in the form of a crane with migrants.
  16. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 26 January 2018 05: 00
    0
    Soon, NATO will remain the most combat-ready Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.
  17. Grits
    Grits 26 January 2018 08: 45
    +1
    The point here is not at all politics and geopolitics. And not even in Erdogan. The point is in TANKS!
    It just turned out that the vaunted “Leopards-2” turned out to be shushliks, not tanks. Even before the "Olive Branch" their igilovtsy burned no less than the old M-60. But the Leopards were considered almost the best tanks in the world. Practice has shown that this is not so. That it’s just a fierce myth. The situation must be urgently saved, otherwise no one else will buy tanks from Germany. Therefore, they decided to urgently refuse to supply Turkey, hiding behind politics.
  18. Valery Saitov
    Valery Saitov 26 January 2018 11: 21
    0
    Turkey will have to buy our T-90s, war by war, and business on schedule.