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So who has the right to show the death of Stalin, and who does not?

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Against the general background, a mini-scandal about the banning of the showing of the English film “Stalin’s Death” in Russia is quite modest.




Naturally, someone here expressed outrage at this fact. For example, (to my great surprise), Kommersant. Someone expressed approval of the ban.

I will not begin to wash the bones of Andrei Plakhov from Kommersant, although it would be worth going through his moans on the topic that the evil censorship of ours banned a brilliant masterpiece against the background of a wave of protests. But a couple of quotes will bring.

"The talented Scottish comedian Armando Iannucci paints the death of the Soviet leader and the confusion of his surroundings, not sparing the grotesque."

So, a Scottish comedian with a truly Scottish last and last name painted a comedy about Stalin’s death.

All right.

We ask: and on the basis of what? Historical documents? Memoirs of contemporaries or studies of historians? Artworks in the end?

Yes, the hell we bald!

Iannucci bungled his bread on the basis of the comic!

Naturally, distorting everything to impossibility with his brilliant grotesques. And the person, it seems, with the Russian name and surname Andrei Plakhov, suffers that this will not work on our screens.

I understand that after all the kinoskandals and the stream of criticism for our “masterpieces”, Minister Medinsky is likely to be really scared of the consequences.

Yes, we still respect Stalin. And he has something to respect. And to argue on this topic is meaningless. And his environment was appropriate. And the modern environment of the current president of our country is a kindergarten, the middle group against the titans of that time.

And you can criticize as you please and blame the people's commissars of that time for anything, but their main difference from the ministers was that they built and (most importantly) built a great country.

Molotov, Malenkov, Kaganovich, Shakhurin, Voznesensky, Yakovlev, Khrunichev, Vannikov, Ustinov, Tevosyan, Sergeev, Zaltsman, Malyshev, Zverev and many others.

The question arises: what right do dollar workers have to climb to Russia with their libelous?

I would advise you to make a comic book on 200 pages about Queen Victoria. Or princess Diana. Or Sir Elton John.

And why not?

But we have people in the country, with some exceptions, cultural, and this will not allow themselves. Alas. But the free western part of the world can do anything.

Stalin and his entourage - this is our story. And it is up to us to decide whether we need comedy-grotesque coverage of the pages of our history.

I express my deep civil gratitude to Yuri Polyakov, Pavel Pozhigailo, Nikita Mikhalkov, Elena Drapeko, Sergey Miroshnichenko and everyone who put his signature on the ban on displaying this libel.

Hands off our story! In your dig and remove comics.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 26 January 2018 15: 12
    26
    Where is the border between art and ordinary bestiality ... lately it has somehow been blurred ...
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 26 January 2018 15: 15
      16
      And what exactly is bestial in this wonderful movie? winked
      1. seti
        seti 26 January 2018 15: 20
        46
        You haven’t watched it yet and it’s already “wonderful” for you .. What is so wonderful about it? Even the actors look like clubs with the evil spirits on your avatars ..
        1. Ronald Reagan
          Ronald Reagan 26 January 2018 15: 27
          17
          Perhaps Chaplin was a club with his dictator? laughing
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 26 January 2018 16: 44
            40
            Quote: Ronald Reagan
            Perhaps Chaplin was a club with his dictator? laughing

            Along the way, you and your people know World War II only from the film by Ch. Chaplin "The Great Dictator." laughing
            1. Ronald Reagan
              Ronald Reagan 26 January 2018 19: 21
              +9
              My people really know the war, in contrast to the boorish and ill-bred young people. wink
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 08: 40
                15
                Apparently you have senile senility, in any case, no normal person will call this film wonderful
                1. passerby
                  passerby 28 January 2018 04: 05
                  +4
                  Those who demand to ban the screening of this film are no different from Poklonskaya with her demands to ban the screening of Matilda. The same funny and ridiculous.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 08: 36
                    +5
                    that is, the ban on watching porn movies in movie theaters is ridiculous and ridiculous ?!
                    by the way matilda compared to this bucket of shit is just a masterpiece
                    1. passerby
                      passerby 28 January 2018 16: 10
                      +4
                      Every man to his own taste. Nobody forces you to watch this film. Otherwise, you must prohibit all the films that someone did not like. I didn’t like the Poklonskaya film “Matilda”, you need to ban it, you didn’t like the film about Stalin, also ban it, someone didn’t like the film “Three Musketeers”, let's also ban it. And about pornography there is no need to distort the film about Stalin's pornography no more and no less than in Matilda. "
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 16: 57
                        +1
                        Quote: bystander
                        Every man to his own taste. Nobody forces you to watch this film. Otherwise, you must prohibit all films that someone did not like.

                        again, can porn be shown in movie theaters? !!
                        Quote: bystander
                        I didn’t like the Poklonskaya film "Matilda", you need to ban it, you didn’t like the film about Stalin, you also forbid it, someone else’s film

                        have you watched?
                        Quote: bystander
                        And about pornography there is no need to distort the film about Stalin's pornography no more and no less than in Matilda. "

                        who does not distort, can you explain why you can not show porn?
                      2. oracul
                        oracul 29 January 2018 07: 45
                        +2
                        It remains to find out which way the "random passer-by" walks? I personally support the point of view that the “problems” of “my country” are my (our) problems and I (we) will somehow figure it out (myself), and even more so without black biographies from those whom these people once were, who led our country, saved from Nazism.It turns out that there was no need to do this? Have a good trip to the side known to you, traveler.
                      3. aleks700
                        aleks700 31 January 2018 10: 32
                        0
                        Every man to his own taste. Nobody forces you to watch this film. Otherwise, you must prohibit all the films that someone did not like. I didn’t like the Poklonskaya film “Matilda”, you need to ban it, you didn’t like the film about Stalin, you also forbid it, someone didn’t like the film “Three Musketeers”, let's also ban it. And about pornography there is no need to distort the film about Stalin's pornography no more and no less than in Matilda "
                        . Ie comedy about the death of the head of state is funny? Fine? Well, I’ll laugh at how they show the disabled Roosevelt and his death.
                    2. Petr1968
                      Petr1968 29 January 2018 12: 24
                      +1
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      that is, the ban on watching porn movies in movie theaters is ridiculous and ridiculous ?!

                      Review Citadel 2. Why wasn't it banned?
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 29 January 2018 19: 39
                        0
                        sorry for all the controversy of the citadel (it is not clear why 2) they simply can not be compared with the death of Stalin
                      2. RGC
                        RGC 30 January 2018 19: 50
                        +1
                        Do not argue with the political officer. He immediately writes to a special department of denunciations lol
          2. captain
            captain 26 January 2018 17: 34
            12
            Everyone has the right to show and make films, but we have public, political, and other organizations that can sue for discrediting our history. Comrades, Bolsheviks-Leninists, of whom there are so many in VO, what are you waiting for? Chatterboxes under the red flag. That's why you ... and the USSR. Chatterboxes Leninists.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 26 January 2018 17: 43
              12
              Quote: captain
              but we have public, political, and other organizations that can sue for discrediting our history. Comrades Bolsheviks-Leninists,

              Already filed., And this filmenets rented.

              Roman next +100500 for the right and timely article!

              1. ronnon
                ronnon 29 January 2018 17: 36
                0
                And what did this demagogue do poorly by the communists? Maybe liberals and democrats caress him?
            2. SPLV
              SPLV 27 January 2018 23: 46
              +2
              Quote: captain
              Chatterboxes under the red flag. That's why you ... and the USSR. Chatterboxes Leninists.

              "What's in your name?"
              Mr. captain! Judging by your words, if you are not a talker, then right now you are actively working to restore the monarchy in the vastness of our country? Are you suing Putin because you didn’t put the Romanovs on the throne? Or did the officer of the royal cavalry betray his ideals?
            3. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 08: 37
              0
              Quote: captain
              That's why you are talking about ... whether the USSR

              Excuse me, how old were you at 91?
      2. Sergey-8848
        Sergey-8848 26 January 2018 16: 21
        19
        Great for you is a comic book based on comic book genres. What's so great about it? What is needed in this tape, for which aspects of the human personality of what is needed?
      3. gm9019
        gm9019 27 January 2018 01: 10
        10
        Quote: Ronald Reagan
        And what exactly is bestial in this wonderful movie?

        Even the video sequence that is offered on the trailer is disgusting. Disgusting images, gestures, repulsive remarks, etc. That is done everything possiblein order to form a definite attitude in the viewer towards these screen characters and, of course, transfer this attitude to historical persons. Every detail, every replica, every frame - everything is aimed at this.
        1. karish
          karish 27 January 2018 09: 08
          11
          Quote: gm9019
          Even the video sequence that is offered on the trailer is disgusting. Disgusting images, gestures, repulsive remarks, etc.

          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 28 January 2018 10: 40
            +5
            In vain did Stalin defeat Hitler? We have a moral right, we are the winners. Holocaust suppression is also the way we are. You shred the fact that the Soviet and Russian in the war in the shit smear something else doing? Well, except how to lick the collective west?
      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 08: 38
        +4
        Quote: Ronald Reagan
        And what exactly is bestial in this wonderful movie?

        Have you seen him?
      5. Rostislav
        Rostislav 28 January 2018 22: 03
        0
        This is how many paskud on the site is full.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 22: 18
          0
          at least 16
    2. Vend
      Vend 26 January 2018 15: 22
      19
      Their dogs are biting, do not interfere with a stranger. In Russia, we can break spears as much as we like on questions about Stalin, but this is our internal affair. We will solve it ourselves.
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        1. Vend
          Vend 26 January 2018 15: 59
          20
          Quote: ans
          Yes! If you are a dog ... But, probably, there are all people here besides you.

          You need to know the folklore of the country in which you live. For your education, this is an old saying. And something else Marie de Rabutin - Chantal de Sevigne: "The more I know people, the more I love dogs." You are a confirmation of this.
          1. ans
            ans 30 January 2018 18: 05
            +1
            Wend. If you cannot distinguish between the “if” condition and the “likely” assumption, leaving the right of the user to decide for himself whether it applies to him or not, depending on the level of his personal culture or not, which requires a fair self-assessment, then I can recommend that you take up self-education in the sense of self-education and the development of personal intelligence. Since it seems that it leaves you to be desired. But there is no need to breed dog barking here. Because it reflects the level of culture of site users commenting on this "patriotic yellow newspaper". I’m asking DO NOT BE POSSIBLE.
            1. Vend
              Vend 30 January 2018 18: 11
              0
              Quote: ans
              Wend. If you cannot distinguish between the “if” condition and the “likely” assumption, leaving the right of the user to decide for himself whether it applies to him or not, depending on the level of his personal culture or not, which requires a fair self-assessment, then I can recommend that you take up self-education in the sense of self-education and the development of personal intelligence. Since it seems that it leaves you to be desired. But there is no need to breed dog barking here. Because it reflects the level of culture of site users commenting on this "patriotic yellow newspaper". I’m asking DO NOT BE POSSIBLE.

              Shame on me? Yes, unlike you, I don’t poke people. To get started, learn basic cultural manners. And then you will teach someone.
              1. ans
                ans 30 January 2018 18: 47
                +1
                Quote: Wend
                Yes, unlike you, I do not poke people

                Culture has nothing to do with it. I just have a mathematical mindset. If you are alone, then you cannot be many =)). So do not appeal to a culture you are not familiar with.
                1. Vend
                  Vend 31 January 2018 10: 18
                  0
                  Quote: ans
                  Quote: Wend
                  Yes, unlike you, I do not poke people

                  Culture has nothing to do with it. I just have a mathematical mindset. If you are alone, then you cannot be many =)). So do not appeal to a culture you are not familiar with.

                  That's about culture and speech. If you even have no idea about the elementary rules of good form. it doesn’t matter what your mindset is - it is a waste warehouse. Unlike you, I don’t poke opponents in the dialogue. So there is enough knowledge about culture. And the fact that you switched to you means that you are not completely lost to society.
                  1. ans
                    ans 31 January 2018 19: 33
                    +1
                    Quote: Wend
                    about the elementary rules of good form.

                    Perhaps your parlor views of the parquet sharkun might impress a simpleton, but not me. People like you quickly lose their moral guidelines, confusing their belonging to “cultural” people with people with high personal ethics. I believe that your disdain for the exact sciences testifies to belonging to an ordinary plebs, with one-dimensional reason. However, for people like you, not everything is lost. For your self-development, I suggest looking at the products of the "Stalinist" achievements as a way of "liberating" and raising your personal ethics. True, this will mean that you are likely to be lost to the authoritarian Russian society of Stalinist lovers of lovers. This, by the way, to your words about "losses for society"


        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 08: 52
          +9
          Quote: ans
          But probably, besides you, all people are here.

          Man will not mock death
          1. ans
            ans 30 January 2018 18: 16
            0
            So, the victims of Stalinism are not people for you .... Interesting, it turns out. And then who are they? Can you tell?
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 30 January 2018 18: 20
              0
              Quote: ans
              So, the victims of Stalinism are not people for you.

              Criminals, not victims. Why doesn’t you like this answer? Have you read Solzhenitsyn or any other kind of liar like A. Zubov?
      2. Petr1968
        Petr1968 26 January 2018 16: 32
        +8
        Quote: Wend
        Their dogs are biting, do not interfere with a stranger. In Russia, we can break spears as much as we like on questions about Stalin, but this is our internal affair. We will solve it ourselves.

        Your strange words when I turn on the telly, and there in a circle Ukraine-Syria Syria-USA USA-Ukraine .... How to explain ??
        1. Vend
          Vend 26 January 2018 17: 35
          +6
          Quote: Petr1968
          Quote: Wend
          Their dogs are biting, do not interfere with a stranger. In Russia, we can break spears as much as we like on questions about Stalin, but this is our internal affair. We will solve it ourselves.

          Your strange words when I turn on the telly, and there in a circle Ukraine-Syria Syria-USA USA-Ukraine .... How to explain ??

          I do not quite understand how it fits with the film and the controversy about Stalin.
          1. Petr1968
            Petr1968 29 January 2018 09: 58
            +2
            Quote: Wend
            I do not quite understand how it fits with the film and the controversy about Stalin.

            This does not fit with the film, but with the fact that this is our internal affair and ONLY we have the right to discuss it. You tell Kiselev and the program "60 minutes .. about Ukraine" tell)))
            1. Vend
              Vend 29 January 2018 10: 05
              0
              Quote: Petr1968
              Quote: Wend
              I do not quite understand how it fits with the film and the controversy about Stalin.

              This does not fit with the film, but with the fact that this is our internal affair and ONLY we have the right to discuss it. You tell Kiselev and the program "60 minutes .. about Ukraine" tell)))

              A film and a discussion of the political situation are two different things. We are not making a comedy about Ukrainian values ​​or about Western leaders. Yes, and do not try to arrange a rental in these countries. Imagine a black comedy about Lincoln will be shot in Russia and it will be rented in the USA. You will hear the same cries from across the ocean.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 08: 53
          +1
          Quote: Petr1968
          and there in a circle Ukraine-Syria Syria-USA USA-Ukraine

          Well, actually it’s all interconnected with Russia
          1. Petr1968
            Petr1968 29 January 2018 09: 59
            0
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Well, actually it’s all interconnected with Russia

            Just like Stalin and England.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 29 January 2018 19: 40
              0
              Quote: Petr1968
              Just like Stalin and England.

              actually not so, you either play the fool or don’t really know the story
    3. Cyril312
      Cyril312 26 January 2018 17: 47
      11
      Recently, bestiality is considered an art ....
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 29 January 2018 10: 13
        +2
        Quote: Cyril312
        Recently, bestiality is considered an art ....

        I agree. I also do not watch Mikhalkov and Bandarchuk.
    4. passerby
      passerby 28 January 2018 04: 01
      +2
      How do those who demand to ban the showing of this film differ from Poklonskaya with its ridiculous and ridiculous demands to ban the showing of "Matilda"?
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 29 January 2018 10: 02
        +2
        Quote: bystander
        How do those who demand to ban the showing of this film differ from Poklonskaya with its ridiculous and ridiculous demands to ban the showing of "Matilda"?

        The fact that there is a race here, who is the most “tense” and “moral”))) However, after which I want to leave the place for another 6 years))) But Poklonskaya is just ...))
  2. axxenm
    axxenm 26 January 2018 15: 19
    36
    Would anyone offer any "Death of Mao" to China?

    In 2017, China issued a rental certificate to 37 foreign paintings. It used to be - 25.
    Since the Chinese film market is about $ 6 billion a year -
    Hollywood majors suck at the Chinese censors already riveting. They cut out everything that needs to be cut, without doubt and respect for the creative position of the authors.
    The Chinese do not worry about lack of spirituality and take different Harry Potters and Fast and the Furious. And every movie for the type of smart do not take.
    The difference between the film industry in Russia and China is simple. The Chinese are directly talking about their national interests. Including in the cinema and they are being consistently implemented. Quoting, pushing releases under the Chinese premieres, in general, are engaged in all kinds of Mikhalkovism.
    They do not want to lose 10 years as the South Koreans, who completely opened their film market and then recovering painfully for a long time, do not want to. The share of Chinese cinema in the collections is growing, which is why the quota for Hollywood was increased.
    Of the 6 billion, more than 4 collect Chinese paintings. Others and 200 million dollars, not the 25th, like the super-cash “Upward Movement”, but here it’s clear - they have 10 times more cinema halls.
    China's national interests contradict any film negative country, its national historical characters and even national symbols. For example, you can’t show a movie about bad dragons.
    1. Chater57
      Chater57 26 January 2018 15: 40
      +2
      Yes, the example of China is indicative. The teacher even “Matilda” had to shovel for a show in China.
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    2. ans
      ans 26 January 2018 15: 55
      +2
      Maybe you're right! But we are not communists or Chinese ...
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 26 January 2018 16: 48
        15
        Quote: ans
        Maybe you're right! But we are not communists or Chinese ...

        And not the Scots, for that matter. Stalin is our story, and whoever and how we would relate to His person is our business, and not some kind of "0" from directing from the shores of "Misty Albion". How would the Scots react to the fact that they would have shot a comedy on "The Death of Mary Stuart"?
        1. Minion
          Minion 27 January 2018 09: 14
          +2
          So ask this question to the Scots, and do not grind all the nonsense here.
          1. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 29 January 2018 09: 54
            0
            Quote: Minion
            and do not grind all nonsense here.

            What is nonsense?
        2. nezvaniy_gost
          nezvaniy_gost 28 January 2018 12: 03
          +1
          Yes, I think there would also be found the same as you, but the rest would be ph.
  3. rkkasa xnumx
    rkkasa xnumx 26 January 2018 15: 24
    22
    "I express my great civil gratitude to Yuri Polyakov, Pavel Pozhigailo, Nikita Mikhalkov, Elena Drapeko, Sergey Miroshnichenko and everyone who put their signature on the ban on showing this libel."
    I wonder which of these signers was outraged by our domestic libel such as "US", "Bastards", "Shtrafbat", "4 days in May", etc.?
    1. sds87
      sds87 26 January 2018 17: 58
      21
      Actually, yes, I support. Mikhalkov himself repeatedly drove through the Great Patriotic War so that it was disgusting to watch. He exposed the Soviet army with soldiers and their military leaders as stupid and cruel inadequacies. After his Citadel, all my opinions are up to the bullet. He is a chameleon opportunist. Weather vane - in a word.
      And let the West make a black comedy about Reagan, or some other leader. But something while some patriotic and idealistic films about their leaders takes off. Somehow they do not joke on the same Winston Churchill. All over the enemies jiving. And Stalin for them is a very uncomfortable figure, which forced them to reckon with the USSR and which they are terribly afraid of during life (and after death). Otherwise, there would not have been all this flood of filth poured by the West on all who ever rebuffed them.
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  4. polpot
    polpot 26 January 2018 15: 28
    17
    Many interesting films can be made about the British monarchs schizophrenics or princess slut all in our hands
    1. Retired2012
      Retired2012 26 January 2018 16: 43
      +3
      They said beautifully about the English princesses-skirts ........ Here you should make films for adults ...
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 08: 55
      +2
      Quote: polpot
      about British monarchs schizophrenics or princess slut everything in our hands

      what for?!!!!
      better to film about our Heroes than about their prostitutes
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 26 January 2018 15: 30
    +3
    And the modern environment of the current president of our country is a kindergarten, the middle group against the background of the titans of that time.
    ... I do not agree, baby ...
  6. Dzmicer
    Dzmicer 26 January 2018 15: 32
    22
    Oh no no no! Encroached on the holy! To Soviet power! On our beloved Joseph Vissarionovich! On the cunning Lavrenty Pavlovich! To the esteemed Nikita Sergeevich! To the glorious Georgy Konstatinovich (the only handsome character in this comedy, and probably the best on-screen Zhukov in general!).

    And yes, you don’t need to be seven spans in your forehead to understand that this film was banned not because it distorts the past, but because it reflects the future of the Russian Federation (because if not Putin, then the cat!)
    1. Loess
      Loess 26 January 2018 15: 53
      29
      That's something like ...
      1. Tsoy
        Tsoy 26 January 2018 18: 16
        14
        I'm terribly sorry, of course, but for all the things written in the picture there are movies. And in many, the people displayed there are shown not in the best light, despite the fact that these are not satirical films. And the situation with Stalin's Death is nasty and not at all because of censorship or cranberries. Mikhalkov, when shooting his Tired of the sun something about respect is not thinking. And if for that matter his picture was much more like a spit for a country than a comedy film. Because the Russian director on serious grounds filed the most stupid misconceptions about the Second World War. And then there was a guardian for cultural purity. Medina, on the other hand, should go on TV to see what is in the prime time. For a whole year already, the girl about the juvenile and her rapist has a lot of muslim. That there would be censorship cost to apply.
        1. long in stock.
          long in stock. 26 January 2018 23: 57
          +2
          on the already tired people clearly spoke out. tried this. buried and forgotten ..
    2. KAV
      KAV 26 January 2018 17: 46
      +8
      Quote: Dzmicer
      And yes, you don’t need to be seven spans in your forehead to understand that this film was banned not because it distorts the past, but because it reflects the future of the Russian Federation (because if not Putin, then the cat!)

      And you, I watch, film critic? Yes, and with the gift of foresight? Yes, and self-taught wit! But how dare they not to heed your exclusive opinion ?! Urgently allow this guano to show! And then here such an exceptional character toils up from vitamin deficiency, without the next dose of cinema, you * ce * ra !!!
    3. Cyril312
      Cyril312 26 January 2018 17: 54
      +6
      It's not about Putin, and not even about Stalin, but let’s say if about your mother, will they make a film that she was a woman of easy virtue? (no offense). But the essence here is precisely why they wouldn’t shove their nose of the court, but say they would shoot about their Washington, and not as a hero, but as a story about him ... And there you can for a very long time ... This film is the first the turn is an attempt to underestimate the Stalin case, or even to denigrate it. And you know, if it weren’t for all the politics of the United States over the past century, maybe everyone would have laughed together ...
      1. nezvaniy_gost
        nezvaniy_gost 28 January 2018 12: 05
        0
        and who of that politburo is your father (or mother)?
    4. DenZ
      DenZ 26 January 2018 21: 05
      +1
      Quote: Dzmicer
      And yes, you don’t need to be seven spans in your forehead to understand that this film was banned not because it distorts the past, but because it reflects the future of the Russian Federation

      In what place does Stalin's Death "reflect the future", how can one reflect what was not at all? And if it wasn’t and someone dreamed about it, then let them go through the woods with such dreams about the future of Russia. Grotesque ... Cattle is simple and all. I do not defend Stalin and digging, I am simply against bestiality in such serious and ambiguous issues as our history.
    5. Locksmith
      Locksmith 26 January 2018 21: 12
      +7
      Quote: Dzmicer
      Oh no no no! Encroached on the holy!

      You walk around the apartment more carefully, take care of the memory block, you have one and it’s damaged in the campaign, do not bang your head on the jambs !! belay
    6. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 08: 58
      +5
      Quote: Dzmicer
      probably the best screen beetles in general!).

      I feel sorry for you, apparently your level is TNT once THIS is for you "the best screen Zhukov in general!"
      Quote: Dzmicer
      Oh no no no! Encroached on the holy! To Soviet power! On our beloved Joseph Vissarionovich!

      By the way, there idiots depict not only the historical figures indicated by you, but also, for example, Vasily Stalin, the man who fought, including for you
      1. Captain Nemo
        Captain Nemo 27 January 2018 18: 17
        0
        From the presentation to the Order of Suvorov: “Personally, Comrade Stalin, during his participation on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War, made 26 sorties and personally shot down 2 enemy aircraft. He is worthy of being awarded the Order of Suvorov, 2nd degree”

        Doesn’t it bother you?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 20: 17
          10
          Quote: Captain Nemo
          Doesn’t it bother you?

          confuses the nonsense that you wrote
          full text sounds like this
          The award sheet dated May 11, 1945, signed by the commander of the 16th Air Army, Colonel General of Aviation S. I. Rudenko, states:
          “During the period of the Berlin offensive operation, units of the division under the direct leadership of the guard of Colonel V. I. Stalin conducted 949 sorties. Fifteen air battles were conducted, during which 15 enemy aircraft were shot down, moreover, on the first day of the operation - 17, only one crew was lost.
          Personally, Comrade Stalin during his participation on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War made 26 sorties and personally shot down 2 enemy aircraft. Awarded with the Order of Suvorov 2nd degree


          It bothers me that I think I am smarter than others
          1. Captain Nemo
            Captain Nemo 27 January 2018 20: 48
            +3
            That is, you do not see the difference between the personal result of a military fighter pilot and the result of a military unit? Applause. But is a pilot worthy of commanding a division with 28 combat sorties and 2 personally shot down (even suppose there are 5 more in the group)? Obviously, some simple simple questions cannot be asked.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 09: 04
              +4
              Quote: Captain Nemo
              That is, you do not see the difference between the personal result of a military fighter pilot and the result of a military unit?

              once again they gave him the order not for personally shot down planes, although you tried to imagine it that way
              "During the period of the Berlin offensive operation by units of the division under the direct supervision of the guard of Colonel V.I. Stalin, 949 sorties were conducted. 15 air battles were carried out, during which 17 enemy aircraft were shot down, moreover, on the first day of the operation - 11, only one crew was lost"
              as it turned out worthy to find reviews about his service
              1. Captain Nemo
                Captain Nemo 28 January 2018 11: 31
                +1
                Yes Yes. Obviously, he simply didn’t accidentally reveal his talent as a fighter pilot, since he had only 28 sorties and 2 shot down personally and the party decided to use it on the leading site. And he was so talented that thanks to his personal merits, others fought, shot down and died. Or maybe they just took care of Vasya, so that Dad would not get angry? Well, they moved like a nugget. Can compare with the biographies of other pilots who had a much richer personal account and already cease to deify both his father and his offspring?
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 15: 13
                  +3
                  Quote: Captain Nemo
                  Or maybe they just took care of Vasya, so that Dad would not get angry?

                  "Uncle Vova are you?"
                  By the way, he flew without a parachute, probably not to upset dad
                  1. Captain Nemo
                    Captain Nemo 28 January 2018 17: 52
                    +1
                    Have you seen? In any case, he flew little and bad
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 20: 06
                      +2
                      Quote: Captain Nemo
                      In any case, he flew little and bad

                      Major General Aviation Stalin flies on airplanes: Po-2, Ut-1, Ut-2, I-15, I-153, MIG-3, MAGG-3, YAK-1, YAK-7, YAK-9, IL -2, Boston, Siebel, LA-5, LA-7, Hurricane - total raid 3174 h. "15 min

                      83-year-old Anatoly Avksentievich Korol, He said: “I am proud that I had the opportunity to study and communicate with such a person ...

                      I’ll say without hesitation that the pilots loved Vasily Stalin, wrote Hero of the Soviet Union Sergey Kramarenko. - Despite the fact that he was the son of the leader himself, he honestly fought in World War II, went through Stalingrad and reached Berlin, but for any front-line soldier it means a lot.

                      He fought bravely: he rushed into the battle, seeing the enemy, literally attacked him, not at all thinking about the danger. He had a grave wound in his leg, tearing him out of the ranks for a long time. He flew on everything that flew. His track record records what types of aircraft he mastered. He seems to have mastered everything. I got into difficult situations: then a lightning bolt hit the plane, the plane became uncontrollable, but he landed it all the same. He managed to land a car with pilots in Kuibyshev at the airport, when they flew for the planes, but others could not. That is, he not only came out of difficult situations, but also saved others. And then he never complained, did not boast.

                      He fought bravely: he rushed into the battle, seeing the enemy, literally attacked him, not at all thinking about the danger. He had a grave wound in his leg, tearing him out of the ranks for a long time. He flew on everything that flew. His track record records what types of aircraft he mastered. He seems to have mastered everything. I got into difficult situations: then a lightning bolt hit the plane, the plane became uncontrollable, but he landed it all the same. He managed to land a car with pilots in Kuibyshev at the airport, when they flew for the planes, but others could not. That is, he not only came out of difficult situations, but also saved others. And then he never complained, did not boast.

                      ... He had three orders of the Red Banner. Moreover, one of these orders was nameless. The army commander saw him in the air. It was in 1941 in Mtsensk. German bombers flew into the Mtsensk airfield. Vasily flew there on an unloaded plane and pushed these bombers with his forehead, drove off. The army commander said: "Here I am rewarding this pilot with the Order of the Red Banner." When he landed, the surname of the pilot became clear ...
                      - Artyom Sergeev, Ekaterina Glushik. Conversations about Stalin.

                      Vasily Stalin regiment commanded diligently, listened to us, more experienced pilots. As a regiment commander, at his discretion, he could make sorties as part of any squadron, but most often for some reason he flew as part of mine. During February - March 1943, we shot down a dozen enemy aircraft. With the participation of Vasily - three. Moreover, it should be noted that Vasily was the first to attack them, after these attacks the planes lost control, and then we finished them off. According to our flight laws, they could count Vasily as being shot down personally, but he considered them to be shot down in a group. I once told him about this, but he waved his hand and threw briefly: "Do not!"
                      - Hero of the Soviet Union S.F. Dolgushin
                    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 20: 07
                      0
                      Quote: Captain Nemo
                      In any case, he flew little and bad

                      can you justify your conclusion?
    7. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 27 January 2018 17: 47
      +1
      Quote: Dzmicer
      Oh no no no! Encroached on the holy! To Soviet power! On our beloved Joseph Vissarionovich! On the cunning Lavrenty Pavlovich! To the esteemed Nikita Sergeevich! To the glorious Georgy Konstatinovich (the only handsome character in this comedy, and probably the best on-screen Zhukov in general!).

      And yes, you don’t need to be seven spans in your forehead to understand that this film was banned not because it distorts the past, but because it reflects the future of the Russian Federation (because if not Putin, then the cat!)

      Curious. Did you draw from Nagiyev?
  7. flicker
    flicker 26 January 2018 15: 47
    13
    The talented Scottish comedian Armando Iannucci paints ...

    ... the death of Napoleon ... the death of Churchill ... the death of Roosevelt ... the death of Gold Meir ... the death of Rockefeller ... the death of his father and mother, son and daughter ... and all are not pitying the grotesque, mockingly easy and comical.
    1. nezvaniy_gost
      nezvaniy_gost 28 January 2018 12: 08
      0
      Oh, by the way, and Napoleon has a Russian comedy with Derevyanko))
      1. flicker
        flicker 28 January 2018 12: 32
        +2
        About his death?
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    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 26 January 2018 16: 30
      +2
      Quote: ans
      Readers, I think, should be more concerned about the fact that someone forbids you to watch ..

      We spit on bans, the main thing is the profits!
      In the Moscow cinema "Pioneer" showed the British comedy "Death of Stalin." This is written by network users.
      As noted in the KinoPoisk Telegram channel, the session was no different from the usual one except for a “full house and press invasion, which is atypical for a weekday”. Additional protection was not involved.
      It is noted that the cinema completely sold tickets for the painting until February 3, two sessions a day.
      January 23, it became known that lawyers of the Ministry of Culture of Russia called on the head of the Ministry of Culture Vladimir Medinsky not to let the British comedy “Death of Stalin” be hired. The tape found signs of extremism.
      Later that day, the rental certificate was withdrawn from the film. Https: //lenta.ru/news/2018/01/25/po
      kazali /
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 26 January 2018 16: 49
        +4
        True, then censors in the form of police came. Someone will sit ...
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        1. Angina
          Angina 27 January 2018 12: 14
          +1
          It is a shame, of course, for colleagues who, for the sake of rating, translate a passing event into an "informational occasion."
          Now for your statement. I think it is more bold to declare your position in an open letter, rather than stoop to insults. Especially where no one will know for it. Well, and compare the level of their achievements with all sorts of "genetic garbage."
    2. Nulgorod
      Nulgorod 26 January 2018 17: 31
      +3
      We were defeated a long time ago, back in perestroika. Now a little partisan.
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 27 January 2018 09: 08
        +1
        Quote: Nulgorod
        We were defeated a long time ago, back in perestroika. Now a little partisan.


        throwing pillars of occupational military columns? wink
        1. Nulgorod
          Nulgorod 27 January 2018 19: 18
          +1
          Yes, noooo, it’s so - childishness. Here we prohibit foreign movie slops, for example. Soon, I hope, will begin to ban domestic fellow
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    4. Alexy
      Alexy 26 January 2018 22: 26
      +7
      Dear ans
      They did not ban the show, but temporarily suspended the license.
      You can see who wants to, and on the Internet.
      After reading your commentary, I remembered my first teacher, who said: “Today you came to school with an un ironed tie, and tomorrow you will sell your homeland.
      I haven’t seen the film, I can’t judge, but if everything is really so bad there as they write, then I think it’s necessary not only to forbid the film, but also the director to enter this country.
      The late Zadornov was banned from entering the United States only because he called the Americans stupid in his satirical speeches.
      Something like this.
    5. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 09: 20
      0
      Quote: ans
      Readers, I think, should be more concerned about the fact that someone forbids you to watch

      but let's not juggle, no one forbids you to watch, moreover, it has not even been banned yet for showing in movie theaters
      1. Captain Nemo
        Captain Nemo 27 January 2018 21: 09
        +1
        Revocation of rental certificate is a ban
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 29 January 2018 08: 37
          +1
          Quote: Captain Nemo
          identity is a ban

          you’re lying as always, firstly temporarily, secondly no one forbade the movie to watch on DVD or on net
  9. Curious
    Curious 26 January 2018 15: 58
    +4
    "Or Sir Elton John."
    Well this is such a disgusting sight, a comic about pi ... pi ... gay.
    1. Locksmith
      Locksmith 26 January 2018 21: 14
      +2
      Quote: Curious
      comic about pi ... pi ... gay.

      Pederast is a permitted word, gay is also allowed, you can not be shy lol
  10. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 26 January 2018 16: 16
    +2
    Our attitude to Stalin is the attitude of us to our homeland. The rest is from the evil one.
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 26 January 2018 16: 36
      12
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      Our attitude to Stalin is the attitude of us to our homeland.

      Have you come up with yourself now? Let's continue your thoughts - PUTIN is Russia, who does not vote for it - the 5th column !!! And in the film ... I did not know until it was banned. Now I’ll definitely download and watch, I haven’t watched comedies for a long time.
      1. Locksmith
        Locksmith 26 January 2018 21: 16
        +2
        Quote: Petr1968
        Have you come up with yourself now? Let's continue your thoughts - PUTIN is Russia

        Quite literally, but how did you manage to guess ?! wink
      2. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 27 January 2018 09: 42
        0
        Do you only know how to continue? Do you think of it yourself?
  11. dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 26 January 2018 17: 01
    12
    A filmets would look cool and grotesque, in which the wife of one American president collects his brains on the trunk lid of a car, and do not forget about the offscreen laughter, because she does all this on the go!
    1. Alexy
      Alexy 26 January 2018 22: 12
      +3
      I have never been a supporter to stoop to the level of these animals, but in modern realities, probably, we should do this with them.
      There are plenty of characters for bullying. I think you can start with the queen, and then get a taste and ride the rink in all.
    2. Dedall
      Dedall 26 January 2018 22: 22
      +4
      And you can also make a comedy about one aging aunt who listens to how, at the trial, a hubby tells the oath how many times he has and where he has a trainee secretary. And to name the film ... no, not the Triangle of Love, but the Love Oval.
  12. 1536
    1536 26 January 2018 17: 46
    +5
    It remains only to make a black comedy about W. Churchill. This would be a worthy response to the English hateful.
    Alas, our “beau monde” does not even think that there is such a thing as “pride”. One from childhood imitated the Beatles, the other sings in English in general, and the rest just tear down styles from analogues, though creatively reworking, adapting. Russian popular culture was born secondary, secondary and remains. Therefore, there is always a desire to see and listen to the original.
    1. Locksmith
      Locksmith 26 January 2018 21: 20
      +3
      Quote: 1536
      Alas, our “beau monde” does not even think that there is such a thing as “pride”. One from childhood imitated the Beatles, the other sings in English in general, and the rest just tear down styles from analogues, though creatively reworking, adapting.

      But Beria’s son didn’t have anyone to imitate, he made a pancake himself — he invented and created, he was a good engineer, it’s a pity the thread broke, when it was fashionable to BE SMART AND USEFUL. am
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 28 January 2018 00: 19
      +1
      Quote: 1536
      One from childhood imitated the Beatles, the other sings in English in general, and the rest just tear down styles from analogues, though creatively reworking, adapting.

      Truly so. good Well, to those of them who say inglis - immediately ignore, for, in this case, we have complete perversion, yeah. As for the analogues - here you also need to be able to, without slipping into the banal "peredere". Although, about thirty years ago, domestic “variations on the theme,” such as the Kinchevsky “Shadow Theater,” were perceived quite by themselves. Well, how did we young people know that there is such a Robert Smith or Andrew Eldrich in Britain ... There was an info-vacuum, because there wasn’t the same Internet from the word “completely”, and music and literature from behind the hill in Soyuzpechat "not for sale. But to this day, many of our "monsters" copy-paste, not particularly worried. And returning to the topic of language, the parable: ... And Shevchuk appeared to Knabenhoff, and he said in a human voice: "Sing, Ilyusha, in Russian, and you will be happy ..." And Ilya began to sing in Russian, and he was happiness... laughing
  13. ship
    ship 26 January 2018 18: 07
    +4
    "Stalin and his entourage - this is our story. And it is up to us to decide whether we need comedy-grotesque coverage of the pages of our history."
    Needs the West.
    A screening with a preliminary brief, objective analysis of this film would convincingly show how the West relates to our history. The outrage of the citizens of Russia and not only of Russia would be the answer to the question "Do we need comedy-grotesque coverage of the pages of our history?"
  14. mavrus
    mavrus 26 January 2018 19: 46
    +5
    Quote: Ronald Reagan
    And what exactly is bestial in this wonderful movie? winked

    And you need to make a comedy as John Booth in a theater with a pistol spreading his head off to Abrashka Lincoln, to the explosion of laughter in the hall. And after all, the main thing is how it was. And then see the reaction of the pindocs.
    P.S. The name of the comedy is already there: "Such is the fate of tyrants!"
  15. Radikal
    Radikal 26 January 2018 20: 50
    +1
    Quote: ans
    Maybe you're right! But we are not communists or Chinese ...

    Who are you? Whom do you imagine, or (speaking the language that is now popular in cinema) - "who are you pulling the maz for" ?! wassat Or more and more prosaic, "We are Nicholas II"? tongue
  16. Kachesgm
    Kachesgm 26 January 2018 21: 25
    +3
    The most interesting thing is that according to the new history textbooks it is not clear what was going on from March 1953 to 1956. In reality, many schoolchildren have Stalin in their memory, then Khrushchev. Where did Beria-95% do not remember him at all. So this film is to some extent the only thing that modern youth will remember!
  17. Alexy
    Alexy 26 January 2018 21: 54
    0
    Quote: Dzmicer
    Oh no no no! Encroached on the holy! To Soviet power! On our beloved Joseph Vissarionovich! On the cunning Lavrenty Pavlovich! To the esteemed Nikita Sergeevich! To the glorious Georgy Konstatinovich (the only handsome character in this comedy, and probably the best on-screen Zhukov in general!).

    And yes, you don’t need to be seven spans in your forehead to understand that this film was banned not because it distorts the past, but because it reflects the future of the Russian Federation (because if not Putin, then the cat!)

    Yeah no words
    Especially touches the "best screen Beetles"
    I don’t even know how you can comment on what you painted here.
    1. long in stock.
      long in stock. 27 January 2018 00: 03
      +1
      if he painted it ... this character is only enough for idle talk ... for more he does not pull ..
  18. XII Legion
    XII Legion 26 January 2018 22: 51
    19
    I recall an old joke
    Communicate Stalin and Roosevelt.
    Roosevelt says: "We have complete democracy in America. Everyone can go to the White House and say Roosevelt. And there will be nothing for him."
    Stalin replies: "We in the USSR also have complete democracy. Everyone can go to Red Square and say Roosevelt. And he will not be anything either." laughing
    1. XII Legion
      XII Legion 26 January 2018 22: 52
      16
      Roosevelt - D.O.S.A.K.
      1. sds87
        sds87 28 January 2018 16: 09
        +1
        Quote: XII legion
        Roosevelt - D.O.S.A.K.
        What is obscene in this word? Some insanity ...
      2. Sinbad
        Sinbad 28 January 2018 18: 33
        +1
        Just Roosevelt was not a fool. And I.V. Stalin treated him with respect. But, unfortunately, each subsequent president, with rare exceptions, was weaker or dumber than the previous one.
  19. Antares
    Antares 27 January 2018 01: 15
    +2
    Any prohibitions are not the right method. Anyway, you can see it on the Internet (and even advertising will be banned from showing on the territory of the Russian Federation)
    here we have it allowed (just from the cinema, the Labyrinth was watching), only the people are in no hurry to watch it. Although in 8 regions the distributors rented it.
    There is trouble with history and youth and without comedy. (I can even say that a work in the form of comedy will be more informative for them, because they still don’t know who Stalin is ..)
    to forbid for the sake of ban ... for good purposes the road to hell.
    1. dSK
      dSK 27 January 2018 03: 08
      0
      Quote: Antares
      road to hell
      you are guaranteed, "benefactor" you are ours.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 09: 34
      +1
      Quote: Antares
      Any prohibitions are not the right method. Anyway, on the Internet you can see (and even advertising will be banned for display in the Russian Federation

      Yes, no one forbade, stop inventing
  20. Graz
    Graz 27 January 2018 04: 50
    +2
    all Russophobic films should be banned for distribution and distribution in Russia, and the entry to the film that was shot or shot in it may also be forbidden, and there is nothing to be said that it is not tolerant, if these people would like to remain neutral, they wouldn’t shoot like that ahem ..
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 27 January 2018 10: 49
      +3
      Stop stop stop ... what about the authors hit by the sun, Matilda and other heresies? Or is it our .ukin children ?!
    2. Captain Nemo
      Captain Nemo 27 January 2018 18: 44
      +1
      And who will decide the Russophobian film or not? The ideological department of the Central Committee of the EP? Or a censor?
  21. Minion
    Minion 27 January 2018 09: 06
    +1
    These are the little people like the author of this shoveling nonsense and are, according to a very apt definition of one madame, genetic garbage.
  22. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 27 January 2018 10: 43
    +3
    I don’t even know what to say ...
    I haven’t seen the film but condemn it ...
    Go through the centuries, the true Scots with Italian surnames, as well as the children of the census tellers ...
    Immediately in my head there was a video sequence; small ax chopping cherry tree ...
  23. Geterosigma
    Geterosigma 27 January 2018 10: 48
    +2
    most importantly, no one likes censorship, but it’s precisely at the border of what’s permitted. And does it "decide for us" (for the audience to decide whether the movie is suitable for hire or not) is it like that at all? to create people's commissions, committees on cinema, and then on music, on photographs, on the theater, on print media, on digital media?
  24. johnik
    johnik 27 January 2018 11: 40
    0
    Let them shoot about contemporaries like Chaplin! And history with dirty paws - must not be allowed!
  25. erased
    erased 27 January 2018 13: 33
    +1
    Among Stalin’s associates, the author somehow forgot to mention Beria Lavrenty Pavlovich, the “most effective manager of the USSR”. This is true talent and manager!
    For the rest, I fully agree.
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      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 21: 48
        +2
        Quote: Captain Nemo
        Right "Sharashka" was a brilliant invention

        You’ll be surprised, but in some cases our geniuses really needed to be driven into sharashka, one of which was worth Yakovlev
        1. Captain Nemo
          Captain Nemo 28 January 2018 17: 49
          +2
          Would you like to change your job for sharashka? Just do not yell, - For what? What I've done? You don’t want to, you can give the place to children.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 20: 08
            0
            Quote: Captain Nemo
            Would you like to change your job for sharashka?

            you’ll be trolling elsewhere, war and peacetime are two different things
            1. RGC
              RGC 30 January 2018 19: 55
              0
              Did you learn to knock on party work? Hello from Nemo. Will be back soon
  26. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 27 January 2018 13: 36
    +2
    I would advise you to paint a 200-page comic about Queen Victoria.

    Sku-ka-shadow. And here is the “Death of Queen Elizabeth. Hello Century 21” This is fresh and curious in terms of fantasy.
    1. Captain Nemo
      Captain Nemo 27 January 2018 18: 00
      0
      Porn about Catherine the Great, also in the mood, you can see laughing
  27. Bgfen
    Bgfen 27 January 2018 14: 02
    +1
    The distributors of the film did not dream of such an advertisement. Now everyone knows about this film and when there will be no ban, but it doesn’t happen anyway, the bulk will watch it. And the criticality will be less. And by the way, which of the Russian torrents can I upload the film to? I want to see eta steamed tape.
  28. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 27 January 2018 16: 02
    +4
    It’s interesting - how long will our trash, which has settled in the Kremlin, continue to frantically split the Russian people and other peoples of Russia? When will these nits calm down?
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 21: 49
      0
      Quote: Antianglosaks
      It’s interesting - how long will our trash, which has settled in the Kremlin, continue to frantically split the Russian people and other peoples of Russia? When will these nits calm down?

      motherwort drink
  29. Secretparadox
    Secretparadox 27 January 2018 16: 51
    +3
    It is ridiculous to watch how people who have not watched the film tell how bad he is all about himself.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 21: 50
      +1
      Quote: SecretParadox
      It’s funny to watch people who haven’t watched the film tell how bad he is.

      you really need to eat a bucket of shit to understand that it wasn’t worth it ?! !!
      it’s enough for me to smell, the announcement I saw
      1. Secretparadox
        Secretparadox 30 January 2018 11: 31
        +1
        There are so many examples where a movie trailer was shit and a movie came out good. Nobody forbids you not to watch a movie if you do not like it, but this is not a reason to forbid it. By your logic, any movie whose trailer the public did not like should be banned. Well, the shit analogy is the level of dispute in kindergarten.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 30 January 2018 13: 40
          0
          Quote: SecretParadox
          but this is not a reason to ban it

          Did I miss something?
          and when was the film banned?
          Quote: SecretParadox
          There are so many examples where a movie trailer was shit and a movie came out good.

          if the basis of the trailer is supposed to be in the literal sense of the word, then forgive me for nothing good in the film
  30. gla172
    gla172 27 January 2018 17: 35
    +8
    ..... Juga was a Man .... real ... eternal memory to Him !!!

    1. Captain Nemo
      Captain Nemo 27 January 2018 17: 55
      0
      What about Koba? Which mail and cash registers expropriated
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 21: 50
        0
        Quote: Captain Nemo
        What about Koba? Which mail and cash registers expropriated

        and was also the Supreme Commander
        1. Captain Nemo
          Captain Nemo 28 January 2018 11: 36
          0
          What is Stalin's contribution to military planning? And you did not read the memoirs of A.I. Mikoyan, how he began the transfer of food by the Douglas to besieged Leningrad, and Stalin personally canceled this decision?
  31. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 27 January 2018 17: 42
    0
    I take this opportunity to say hello to my grandmother.
    Question: can everyone leave their gratitude to anyone? If so, where can I find out how to leave thanks?
  32. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 27 January 2018 17: 52
    +2
    And one more question. More precisely two. With the “Matilda” mind was enough to give the audience to figure out whether to watch or not. And here is the bench press. Did Nyasha have less breakdown power? Is "Pasquil on Stalin" worse than someone "Pasquil on Nicholas"? And the second one. "Hands off our story," that’s right delivered. What story? In whose edition? Our history is constantly changing. Under Salina, she was alone, under Khrushchev the second, and then the third and fourth .... It is necessary for the author to express thoughts more specifically.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 21: 52
      +1
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      And one more question. More precisely two. With the “Matilda” mind was enough to give the audience to figure out whether to watch or not. And here is the bench press

      Matilda just does not bear any insult, although the film is very mediocre, I really could not remember the next day how it ended
      1. Captain Nemo
        Captain Nemo 28 January 2018 11: 33
        +2
        But Poklonskaya and the same Mikh'alkov thought differently. And before watching the movie
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        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 29 January 2018 08: 50
          0
          here I am amazed at you, you are so cleverly shuffling the facts that you are already amazed
          “The director, at the request of the press, commented on his attitude to hysteria around Alexei Uchitel’s film“ Matilda ”.

          “Unfortunately, I have not seen the film, but I believe that there is a lot of speculation around it,” Nikita Sergeevich believes. “There are paintings that mean nothing at all.” And which mean and no one knows what to do with them. This issue had to be addressed at the level from the very beginning. I absolutely do not try and do not want to evaluate the artistic qualities. When the Kino Foundation gives money, it must understand what it is waiting for.

          In the same way, when the Bolshoi Theater begins staging the play "Nureyev" by the team that offers it, they must understand exactly what it will be and what they will receive. Tree sticks! They don’t know who, what, attachments, interests, tastes and so on?

          If they understand what they are doing, and then they say that the performance was not ready - this is kindergarten! Then stand, covering shameful places, explain for any reason, for the same Matilda or other works.

          This is my personal opinion - you should assume what awaits you, if you undertake to lower a person ranked as a saint in a domestic situation. This person is located in his memory, with his whole being on a different human level, you must understand how this can end.

          And if you understand this, go for it, then "Go to you!" And don't be surprised why this happened. "
          moreover, he does not consider the worship to discredit the Church
          so for what purpose do you equal their opinion on this film?
  33. Megamarcel
    Megamarcel 27 January 2018 19: 54
    0
    Just the director decided to stick to the still not fading glory of the leader. Well, comrades from certain Western structures only said thanks to him. Someone is talking about Chaplin and his film The Death of a Dictator. But Chaplin did not name the film Death of the Dictator Hitler. And then there is a real desire to raise the hype by adding the name of Stalin. For some reason, the film Death of Kennedy did not occur to this figure. Apparently they can also knock on the head for such tricks. And the death of Stalin is like two fingers. And you lift the hype and the viewer goes, and even some kind of Bobla fund will throw. The beauty. In general, it is customary in the West to scare people with Cossacks, Stalin, Putin, etc. This is the cornucopia. Just business and nothing personal, gentlemen!
  34. Sergey Cojocari
    Sergey Cojocari 27 January 2018 20: 42
    +1
    All this is strange. The people are breaking spears and clubs on the heads of the same orphans and the wretched as they themselves, about whether or not undercover fuss in the Kremlin can be shown. EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IT IS, THE BODIES OF THE FALLING, TIME FROM TIME BURIED, THEN IN THE KREMLIN WALL, THEN IN THE UNKNOWN TOMB, So maybe it's time? Or for 20 years to show the mating of animals in the program Dom-1-2-3 -... 18, it’s possible, but how can Kremlin rats gnaw at each other? Maybe it is because of this that the country is slipping on the spot?
    1. 1536
      1536 28 January 2018 07: 36
      +3
      I would be more interested to see what kind of squabble is going on in the US government in Washington today, as well as circus performances of the British government and all kinds of owners of factories, newspapers, ships, with real names. Why is this information hiding? Why are all the special services there hiding her from the public, from the Internet, from the media? Why is Asange sitting at the Embassy of Ecuador without any chance, and Snowden lives away from his homeland? It turns out, dear, that there are more questions than answers. And there is nothing to compare with. Most importantly, we will never be able to satisfy our curiosity, since the Americans and the British, unlike us, never open the doors of their archives to everyone they cross.
  35. would
    would 28 January 2018 04: 43
    +2
    With the position of the author, everything became clear exactly after this line

    I express my great gratitude to Yuri Polyakov, Pavel Pozhigailo, Nikita Mikhalkov,


    With one hand, Roman Skomorokhov is sharply opposed to the film "Death of Stalin," which no one imagines as historical, which was filmed with the money of foreign film companies.

    And the other thanks maestro Mikhalkov, who, like no other, has ruined Russian history. At least twice (I didn’t see the first tired ones) and insisting on the full historicity of these films for people's money. As I understand it, Roman, do you thank Mikhalkov for these films? fool

    The fact is that the authorities have no position on covering the history of the state. And one can nibble it as you like, using both people's money, and state support, and state-owned media, and how the latter do it not for our money and without the help of our state, a howl rises immediately. Including from the state.

    What is it like? One can dance on the tomb of the USSR and we will gladly help them and pay for the whole party, but the second is not?

    Regarding the "Death of Stalin" I will say exactly a few things

    1. I have not seen the film and, unlike commentators, I will not make conclusions with the gift of foresight.
    2. Prohibiting is absolutely pointless and can even be harmful. The film will be held abroad with much more deafening fees than if it had been in the Russian Federation. Very soon at least its pirated versions with a pirated translation will appear on torrents. And most likely, due to the fact that the film will not be completely prohibited after the noise settles down, its official releases will be released, with an official translation. After such a massive public relations campaign, very many people will want to see it simply because "Why is it that they banned it?" So the only ones who lose something are domestic cinemas.
    3. I have nothing against good satirical comedies. Not the fact that "Stalin's Death" is such, but let's hope. And yes, I would not be very opposed that they would shoot a good, sharp and funny satire about me.
    1. Just a man
      Just a man 28 January 2018 08: 47
      +1
      That is, you want to see a satire about you and your family, where your father would be shown an alcoholic lying in shit, and his mother a whore over. And all your relatives. Here would laugh?
      1. would
        would 28 January 2018 12: 13
        0
        That moment when there are no arguments and distortion is used. In "The Death of Stalin," was Stalin an alcoholic wallowing in shit, and his mother a whore over? I understand you already looked? lol

        And the second question. As you can see, I am for good satire. So you think the above is a good satire?
        1. Alexy
          Alexy 28 January 2018 15: 56
          +2
          Just in this film, Stalin lies in a pool of shit. So no one is distorting.
          1. would
            would 28 January 2018 23: 11
            +1
            So you watched it before it was released in Russia? laughing

            Natural psychic abilities, not otherwise. And purely for reference: When Stalin died he fell and poured mineral water, mineral water soaked his pants. Outwardly, it was just the same that he fell and wet himself and, according to the recollections of witnesses, some of them decided exactly that and even said out loud when the fate of Stalin was being decided.

            So I don’t know in a puddle of what lies in the film Stalin (I, unlike you, am not a visionary), but the fact of puddles and soaked pants from pajamas is a historical fact. So it goes.
          2. tezey
            tezey 30 January 2018 14: 27
            0
            Actually in a pool of urine.
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  36. Stepan Kudinov
    Stepan Kudinov 28 January 2018 09: 25
    0
    It is not necessary to judge these criminals of repeat offenders so sharply. It is required to give the task to our "chery" from the movie to shoot a film about the pink childhood of a godfather from an island, as she, together with an insane dad, threw up a pen in a Nazi salute, but I’m unlikely that the "chenies" of the lower body will succeed. Stupid, too.
  37. AleBors
    AleBors 28 January 2018 10: 22
    0
    Selling Hollywood or someone else. (inexpensive) the idea of ​​the script for the sitcom Bill and Monica. Rzhaka-rzhaka. Starting price 2 bottles of lemonade (do not offer Coca-Cola)
  38. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 28 January 2018 13: 48
    +3
    I read a few reviews ... Someone from someone in general ... I did not see the film. Therefore, as "the entire Savets people" I do not speak.
    PS - and in a long time it was charged to the trolley feeder ???
  39. fa2998
    fa2998 29 January 2018 05: 45
    +4
    Quote: Ronald Reagan
    And what exactly is bestial in this wonderful movie? winked

    I don’t know if this film is wonderful, or it’s slop, BUT THIS I AM MUST DECIDE FOR MYSELF! And not some dyatka in Moscow, you will allow such a thing - soon the whole country will watch only Mikhalkov, or another of the lured. negative hi
  40. kig
    kig 29 January 2018 07: 04
    +3
    In fact, in order to evaluate the film and what it says, you must at least watch it.
    Let's argue about the taste of oysters ... with those who ate them (M. Zhvanetsky)
  41. passerby
    passerby 29 January 2018 18: 52
    0
    oracul,
    And you do not cough
  42. tezey
    tezey 30 January 2018 14: 25
    0
    Now finished watching this "masterpiece". It was interesting to find out why the noise around the box office was raised. Frankly, it was difficult to withstand viewing to the end. The film is a frank, low-budget hack. We are not talking about any comedy. A sad sight at the level of amateur performance. It is strange that Andrei Plakhov from Kommersant spoke so much about this creation of the amateur - “The talented Scottish comedian Armando Iannucci portrays the death of the Soviet leader and the confusion of his entourage, not sparing the grotesque.” There is no talent there, no comedy there, no grotesque there. So Plakhov didn’t see the movie, or in the cinema he is a complete layman. As for the rental of the film, my opinion is that it was not necessary to forbid it. The rental rental and catastrophic failure was guaranteed. No one would write a line about this film, and so what is no advertising. In principle, the historical part of the film should not be discussed; it simply does not exist. This film does not even cause hostility so it’s rare rubbish. It’s another matter when such abominations as the “Demon of Revolution”, “Trotsky” or “The Death of an Empire” are thrown into us from the central television channels. This is a real brainwashing especially for young people. So the great danger does not come from foreign nonsense, but from their own filmmakers with joy and stream, splashing their pseudo-historical filmmakers distorting the story in the direction necessary for our enemies.
    1. RGC
      RGC 30 January 2018 19: 51
      +1
      Ksk You dare to watch this abomination ???? Who allowed you ????? !!!!!
  43. ans
    ans 30 January 2018 18: 41
    +1
    Quote: Alexy
    They did not ban the show, but temporarily suspended the license.

    Quote: Alexy
    After reading your commentary, I remembered my first teacher, who said: “Today you came to school with an un ironed tie, and tomorrow you will sell your homeland.

    Respected! After reading your comment, I recalled one wonderful joke of our president about optimists and pessimists. Find it on the Internet yourself. So, according to Putin, he is a pessimist who prefers to drink cognac. Optimists, respectively, sniff out bugs. It was very wonderful on your part to notice me about the properties of trends in the development of the human personality, such as “take care of your clothes with a new and honor with your youth”, etc. But the same trends are also true for the whole society! Sooner or later, people who allow themselves to agree to insignificant prohibitions become miserable slaves of a system in which they lose everything - honor, wealth, respect ... Why is it so hard for you to understand such simple things. Amazing !!!
  44. Berkut
    Berkut 1 February 2018 09: 24
    0
    The very fact that the Nations did not dare to enter the Great Commander-in-Chief for a long time and let him die on the floor in (refrain from physiological details) already speaks a lot about his inner circle. By the way, did L.P. Beria seem to have not been rehabilitated so far? That is, it is a criminal sentenced by a court (and not a trio, which is important) to the death penalty for his crimes
  45. win9090
    win9090 1 February 2018 14: 29
    0
    Do not look if you do not want.
    why forbid, so far I have not heard about the ban about this film and have not heard anything.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 1 February 2018 15: 01
      0
      Quote: win9090
      why forbid

      and that the film was banned ?!