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Russian Olympians clamped down, and in the Kremlin "deeply" regret

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The International Olympic Committee does not allow famous Russian athletes to the Winter Olympics. We are talking about those who are not involved in doping scandals. While Moscow "deeply regrets", the West continues to bend the anti-Russian line. If Moscow went to a boycott of games, the West would have been fools: there would be nobody to let go!


Russian Olympians clamped down, and in the Kremlin "deeply" regret


“The shock for Russia” (“Schock für Russland”) was the current decision of the IOC: no famous Russian athletes who are not involved in doping scandals are expected at the Winter Olympics. Moscow is shocked. "Shock" hit the pages of the world press - this is written in the major Western media.

How popular German daily edition tells «Handelsblatt», a large list of Russian athletes (five hundred people), whom the Independent Organization for Anti-Doping Testing (ITA) included in the list of invitees from the very beginning, has already lost weight on 111 names. The publication believes that the exclusion of the leading athletes from the list means a "heavy blow" for Russia.

The so-called list of “preliminary invitations” of the International Olympic Committee lacks three bright stars of Russian and world sports, which have never been banned from participating in games due to doping scandals, the German edition writes.

Russian winter sports stars - biathlete Anton Shipulin, short trekist Viktor An and skier Sergey Ustyugov - did not make it into the list of those invited to Pyeongchang for starting games. Russia protested and demanded explanations, which the IOC in a specific form has so far refused to give.

The reason for the exclusion of names from the list was the December decision, according to which the Olympic Committee of Russia was “blocked” because of the doping scandal at the Olympic Games in Sochi: the doping was allegedly organized by the state. And only "crystal clear" Russian athletes can participate in competitions in South Korea - under a neutral flag and without a national anthem.

Now the Independent Anti-Doping Testing Organization continues to “work” on a list of previously invited Russian athletes. And already 111 athletes are excluded from the list. Initially, the list included 500 athletes.

In the Russian sport and in the power of this news caused a real stir. “We deeply regret in this regard, if such decisions are really made,” the Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov commented on the explosive situation. The question should be clarified from the IOC, he said.

Also, Handelsblatt reports that Stanislav Pozdnyakov, Vice-President of the Russian Olympic Committee, rejected the idea of ​​a boycott of the current games. “This will not be a boycott,” he told Interfax.

At the same time, the exclusion of sports stars from the list is “a heavy blow for Russia,” further writes. And leads the arguments.

Shipulin, winner of the Winter Olympic Games in Sochi (2014), captain of Russian biathletes, is known precisely as a critic of the use of doping in sports.

Ustyugov, a two-time world champion (Lahti, 2017, two “gold”), is considered the “favorite” of the ski run (long distances).

Naturalized An is a true short track legend: he has six Olympic victories.

And these three have never been involved in the use of doping. “Many of the samples that they passed during their careers prove that they are pure athletes,” noted Pozdnyakov.

In addition, there are no other Russian stars on the lists: for example, Olympic champion in figure skating Ksenia Stolbova and Ivan Bukin (ice dancing).

At the same time, the IOC refused to comment on individual cases of delisting - ostensibly to “protect the rights of those concerned.” The list is intended to provide an invitation to exceptionally clean athletes. The IOC made it clear that new investigations and anti-doping tests could be initiated. They will be assigned to "a variety of athletes." Indeed, it was only in December that it became known that the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) obtained data on doping from the Moscow laboratory for 2012 — 2015 years.

The German edition also reports on the division of "suspicious Russian athletes" into two categories.

First: the IOC believes that the fact of doping has been proven. And in this regard, 42 lifelong Olympic ban. Currently, cases are being reviewed by the Sports Arbitration Court.

Second, no doping was detected, but there are indications that the samples were "processed". And such and such suspicions may relate to those mentioned by Ana and Shipulina. This, at least, was reported by the French newspaper Le Monde, citing information obtained directly from the investigators.

On Saturday this week, the IOC intends to make a final decision on invitations to the games in South Korea.

As for the opinions of Russian sports leaders, for example, Alexei Kravtsov, president of the Russian Skating Union, a member of the executive committee of the Russian Olympic Committee, believes that the exception of Viktor An is a glaring injustice directed “against Russian athletes over the past three months”.

“Russian Koreans cannot go to Korea,” the Russian newspaper Sport-Express mocks the behavior of the proponents with sadness.

Among the others excluded are bobsleigh, hockey, snowboard and many other Russian athletes. Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Physical Education, Sport, Tourism and Youth Affairs, Mikhail Degtyarev, believes that the attacks on sports are directed in Washington. Their goal is to provoke the Kremlin to announce a boycott to the Olympics in Pyeongchang.

A specific response from the IOC could not be reached and the Russian media. For example, RBC I tried to clarify the situation with short-tracker Ahn, but the IOC did not comment on reports about the non-admission of the six-time Olympic champion before participating in the games. The IOC press service gave the following response to the agency: “To protect the rights of individuals within the framework of the process [at the invitation of athletes from the Russian team at the Olympics], the IOC cannot comment on the information on each of the individuals, but will send a list of invitees whenever possible.”

Messages in the media about the possible removal of Viktor Ana excited not only Russia, but also Korean fans. The South Korean press is also "in shock." The fact is that An can be said to be a national hero: after all, he brought the country three gold medals at the Olympics in Turin (then was unfairly dismissed due to injury and proved his skill and willpower under the Russian flag).

And, as it should be, some commentators on the web are outraged by the exclusion of Ana from the list, others approve of this exclusion.

“It smacks of some inconsistencies. There are only 17 days left, and if he couldn’t go, didn’t they know about it beforehand? ”The website quotes sm10 from the Naver Sports portal RIA News".

“I hope this is not true. I want to see him in Pyeongchang, ”wrote another user, under the nickname DoubleU.

Along with this, a version is being circulated that this athlete could violate anti-doping rules while in the Russian national team. Opponents of the sports star already scoff at An, who has replaced citizenship. “And rightfully this Russians, if we recall that their federations worked in Sochi. Viktor An is not a Korean athlete, so it does not matter whether he will participate or not, ”the user writes under the nickname Irisam. Another nickname, someone JasonBourne, generally called Russia a “doping country”:

“These Russians are hopeless. Not only Viktor An, but many other athletes will not go, so this is quite in the spirit of the doping countries of Russia. Is it normal for 33 medals received at the Olympics to cancel 11 medals due to doping? In their country, not only the referees are bribed, but they are also pumped up with doping. It is necessary (them) to be forever removed from the Olympics. ”


There is an opinion in Russia that Russian officials are to blame for the problems of Russian athletes. And the government itself.

Lyudmila Velikova, Honored Trainer of Russia (Ksenia Stolbova and Fyodor Klimov among the students), said "Free Press"that "the whole problem with the admission to the Olympics-2018 appeared due to the fact that our government did not protect us." “Initially, I missed the situation out of control, and when I realized it was too late,” she added.

With the fact that the officials are to blame here, the two-time Olympic champion in biathlon Anatoly Alyabyev agrees.

“How was it possible to sit and wait idly on the anti-Russian decisions of the IOC? Wait and ... do nothing to remove all these wild suspicions with scratched tubes from the guys? From the very beginning it was clear that the IOC was faced with the task of removing 80% of Russians. In general, I cease to understand the principle on which our officials are appointed - non-resistance to evil, or what? Immediately, the very first charges had to be answered sharply, snap, bite. And what are they? Apologized ... "


As for the current games, then, according to the athlete, such games are “to hell!” Alyabyev admits that he should have acted according to the 1984 scenario of the year when the Soviet government decided to boycott the games in Los Angeles: “Yes, they did not succumb to provocations . So it was necessary to act now. It is a pity that President Putin himself withdrew from this problem. I think he should have intervened. Then today they would not cry through the lists. ”

The situation, we add, is clear as day: Russia will be humiliated at any occasion and in any possible way. Do not forget that big sport has long become a big policy. The worldwide popularity of the Olympic Games leads to the fact that they also become political games. And if so, then Russia is still waiting for sanctions, sanctions and more sanctions.

The “deep regret” of Russian officials about the list being shattered is indeed puzzling and the realization that the current Russia on the world stage is far from being a giant of the USSR.

Today there is an obvious political game of exhaustion of those Russian teams that were previously allowed to play in South Korea. To snatch from the ranks of the participants of the strongest athletes. Everything is done to ensure that even those who perform without a hymn and under a neutral flag do not win significant victories. And everything is being done to finally consolidate the image of Russia as a “doping country”.

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  1. Vard
    Vard 26 January 2018 15: 05
    29
    In March 2017, the banned substance probenecid was found in Roberts' doping test. The 2016 Olympic champion in the 4 × 100 m relay said that it got into his body through the kiss of a girl who, due to a sinus infection, used a drug containing probenecid. According to the athlete, he had no idea that the prohibited substance could be transmitted through a kiss. As a result, the American Arbitration Association refused to disqualify the athlete.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 26 January 2018 19: 03
      10
      Sport is not peace and not phai phai, but business. And business does not tolerate swaggering clerks such as a la Mutko. If we had announced a boycott, we would have lost our niche in the global sports business, as well as in any other.
      1. Lev Bronsch
        Lev Bronsch 26 January 2018 19: 55
        +7
        Mutko said everything with his last name, I agree here. But the problem is absolutely not that!
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 27 January 2018 11: 39
          +6
          And everything is being done in order to finally consolidate the image of Russia as a "doping country."

          And the dude sweats, retyping Western lies. He must write that Russia is a "doping country." Of course, attributing that it is Western media write so.
          But the fact is that it was dude who wrote it to us here.
          Moscow is shocked. “Shock” hit the pages of the world press - this is reported in major Western media.

          But here, most of us people have hammered a bolt on these games.
          But pen workers like a dude try to make the Russians respond to a Western chatter.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 27 January 2018 15: 36
            +1
            Quote: Vladimir16
            But here, most of us people have hammered a bolt on these games.

            judging by the passions on VO - on the contrary
            1. Antianglosax
              Antianglosax 27 January 2018 16: 11
              10
              They have already “scored” games unambiguously, but questions remain to the treacherous and corrupt power elite. The Kremlin scum thinks in vain that all these sub-envelopes will get away with it. And Putin looks extremely disgusting in this situation.
            2. captain
              captain 27 January 2018 18: 54
              +2
              Dear author. I agree with your offer; use nuclear weapons according to the IOC, let everyone know that we are determined. And in general, missiles against everyone who thought bad against us. Under Lenin, troops would immediately be sent to the country where the IOC is sitting (for example, to Poland). And here Putin is sitting and not bombing enta bad organization. You would have Oleg and Zhirinovsky’s power, you and Volfych put things in order.
          2. stopkran
            stopkran 28 January 2018 07: 17
            +1
            Therefore, I propose to recognize the IOC as a fiduciary organization engaged in forgery, arbitrariness and discrimination of athletes, and send Khu-Yam to the Korean mountain!

            Reason: "it was decided to reverse the rule of the" presumption of innocence "for the Russian athletes" "it was decided to abolish the" presumption of innocence "rule for Russian athletes." Page 4 of the IOC Disciplinary Commission Report of December 2, 2017

            Olympic Charter:
            6. The exercise of the rights and freedoms provided for in this Olympic Charter should be ensured in the absence of any form of discrimination - racial, linguistic, religious, political in nature, on the basis of color, sex, sexual orientation, other opinion, national or social origin property, birth or other status. 7. Membership in the Olympic movement requires compliance with the provisions of the Olympic Charter and recognition by the International Olympic Committee.
      2. nadezhiva
        nadezhiva 27 January 2018 10: 11
        10
        And I liked it:
        Until we have lost all that is holy,

        In the name of those who have not come from war,

        Don't Sell Homeland Guys!

        That medal of such a price is not worth it!



        Everything in the world is changeable and perishable,

        The time has come for the “five rings”.

        Forgotten that was unforgettable

        The Golden Taurus rules everywhere.



        Like a booth on a cheap stage,

        Where the hell roads run

        You are brazenly lowered to your knees -

        And they demand to crawl in humiliation!



        You are being deprived of your name like beast

        And the game will be against the rules.

        You believe in a fair fight

        And at the table, on the contrary - a cheater!



        They will greet you at the entrance,

        Smeared with black mud over the eyes.

        They have a speckled deck in their hands

        And in each sleeve - two aces.



        Embittered, wretched and stooped -

        Europe Olympic is sick:

        On behalf of "Russia" reduces cheekbones,

        And rabid saliva drips.



        Once again, the "chosen race" wins,

        Opponents squeezed in a vice.

        And pieces of live meat are jumping ...

        The stuffed dope pieces ...



        You can go. Your right.

        Decide for yourself - to be or not to be.

        But know that today is the honor of the Power

        It’s easier for you to drop than to protect.



        And you have already created the conditions,

        To nullify your hard work.

        And if you get the medals,

        Not the fact that they will not be taken away later.



        Until we lost what is holy

        In the name of those who have not come from war,

        Don't Sell Homeland Guys!

        That medal of such a price is not worth it!



        Sports combat always calls to the screen.

        And glory to those who won the battle!

        But I won’t watch these games:

        They humiliate my homeland.



        Konstantin Frolov-Crimean
        ➡ Source: https://publizist.ru/blogs/2/22930/2018?utm_sourc
        e = politobzor.net
      3. Santor
        Santor 27 January 2018 10: 46
        13
        At one time, before the Olympic Games in Beijing, it was Russia that made the proposal, which the IOC accepted. The bottom line - countries boycotting the game, in the future may not be allowed on the following games as a punishment. There wouldn’t be an election in 18 - there wouldn’t be all this garbage.

        They need to throw off Putin in any way. As Navalny answered the question of whether you have developed a complete concept, first you need to drop Putin and then think about what to do next.
        The West strikes at one point - to remove Putin and return the Russia that was under Yeltsin.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 27 January 2018 13: 18
          +8
          Quote: Santor
          The bottom line - countries boycotting the game, in the future may not be allowed on the following games as punishment. There would be no elections in the year 18 - there would be no all this garbage.

          Russia, as a country, officially does not exist for the IOC today.
          Therefore, even if no one goes, it is NOT a boycott of the country of the Games.
          Athletesinvite, and they have the right to accept it or refuse.
          And the farther, the more you see, they MUST refuse to avoid the humiliating situation, provocations and spat on the Games and, most importantly, to support unjustly punished comrades.
      4. saltickov.
        saltickov. 27 January 2018 11: 40
        +1
        but did not lose.
        1. Hoc vince
          Hoc vince 28 January 2018 18: 22
          +1
          I liked one amendment in the newly made IOC rules, invented specifically for Russia. “Any additional guidelines for the delegation of the UAR will be established as necessary by the International Olympic Committee.”
          In other words, the IOC at any time has the right to come up with any new prohibitions and restrictions for our athletes and fans. So this will not end there.
      5. faridg7
        faridg7 28 January 2018 04: 09
        +4
        You want to say that accepting the terms of the IOC, we do not lose this niche of yours? These priests understand only one whip - loss of funding. close financing for them, cut off oxygen to American, English companies in Russia, remove all foreign companies cooperating with the IOC from serving the World Cup, let them consider their losses and raise the IOC with hostility.
        And what is happening now is an attempt to enter the room with pi ... mi bent and unbuttoned in the back
        1. Deck
          Deck 28 January 2018 10: 07
          +2
          I warmly support you! Then, thank God, the World Cup will be canceled
          By the way, the fly in the back is strong!
          1. faridg7
            faridg7 28 January 2018 10: 32
            +2
            Quote: Deck
            Then, thank God, the World Cup will be canceled

            They don’t want to lose cream from the championship, they won’t cancel, moreover, they ask what you please. These begin to be respected only when you face their faces, their courteous treatment is regarded as weakness and fear.
    2. Lev Bronsch
      Lev Bronsch 26 January 2018 20: 10
      13
      This incidentally is far from the most fabulous story from "their" athletes. Personally, I was impressed by the fairy-tale from Teresa Johaug about a cream with which she smeared her lips so that they would not crack in the frost. Here are the type and anabolics in the body with a cream. Now I’m guessing, 25-30 cm should have been smeared on the lips ?? Or more? laughing Says once and then smeared)))
      1. demo
        demo 26 January 2018 20: 32
        +5
        Mazala "from these to these."
        And a little inside.
        1. Lev Bronsch
          Lev Bronsch 26 January 2018 20: 34
          +2
          laughing good Great picture - more good and different demotivators!
        2. papas-57
          papas-57 26 January 2018 21: 04
          +3
          '' Mazala "from now to now." And a little inside. '' Yes, everything is much simpler, her lips run out in the stomach.
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 27 January 2018 19: 41
        +1
        fun, fun !!! laughing laughing laughing

        It is interesting that the word “doping” is written in capital letters on the factory packaging of the cream and is crossed out in red - so in Italy it is reported that this drug is prohibited for athletes. Probably, the Norwegian decided that this, on the contrary, means that there are no prohibited substances in the cream.
        lol lol lol

        Lubrication as an excuse

        The Italian footballer Marco Borriello had to stay without football for two months after in his body in 2007 an increased content of prednisone and prednisone was found, which indicates the intake of cortisone.

        The player of Milan had to reveal the secret of his personal life, so as not to receive serious punishment. Borriello admitted that the banned drug got to him through an intimate gel lubricant. laughing laughing laughing

        Potency is more important than medals

        To make frank confessions in order to maintain a sporting career, once had an American runner Lachon Merritt. In 2010, it became known that he passed three positive doping tests for dehydroepiandrosterone. Explaining how the steroid hormone could get into his body, the athlete did not hesitate to admit that he was addicted to an advertisement that promised an increase in potency.

        The two-time Olympic champion was believed that he was not going to improve his results in this way. However, punishment for frivolity could not be avoided - Merritt was disqualified for 21 months, starting with the first failed doping test.

        Many athletes should thank Merritt for this occasion, as the continuation of this story was of great importance to the world of sports. At that time, the Olympic Charter contained a clause prohibiting the participation in the Olympic Games of those who served a suspension for doping.

        Merritt’s attorneys did not agree with this, and achieved the abolition of the rule so that the athlete could speak at the 2012 Olympics. Then he, however, was left without medals, but he won gold after four years.

        as we see from ours, the rule is not completely canceled !!! wassat wassat wassat

        Fatal meat

        In 2010, another doping scandal struck cycling. During the Tour de France stage race, Clenbuterol was discovered by Spaniard Alberto Contador. The concentration of the substance was so small that the athlete immediately put forward an unusual version - doping could get to him through low-quality beef, which he ate the day before.

        In the Spanish Cycling Federation, Contador was believed and appointed a one-year suspension, which was immediately canceled after the appeal. The athlete remained the winner of the Tour de France, and at the same time won the Giro d'Italia in 2011.

        However, the International Union of Cyclists and the World Anti-Doping Agency still doubted the story of beef. WADA even published a study according to which clenbuterol was found in only one of 286 thousand meat tests. A lawsuit was filed against Contador in the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne, which decided to appoint a two-year suspension and deprive the athlete of all the titles since July 2010.

        Contador returned to the highway after being removed and is still considered one of the best cyclists in the world. For him, the story of infected meat became an occasion to become a vegetarian.

        Tea not dope

        Athletes should always be careful with food, so as not to be on a pencil with doping agencies. In this sense, the story of another cyclist, Gilberto Simoni, is indicative. During the 2002 Giro d'Italia, cocaine was discovered in the athlete's blood.

        At first, the Italian insisted that during a visit to the dentist he was given painkillers that could contain the drug. However, then the athlete's side put forward an even more unusual version. Allegedly, Simoni was visiting relatives who treated him to Coca-based tea brought from Peru. After several sips, enough cocaine has accumulated in the body so that the next doping test is positive.

        Simoni believed and completely acquitted him, but while the trial was going on, the cyclist had to miss the Tour de France, for which he purposefully prepared. wassat wassat wassat

        Italian Sarah Errani explained how a forbidden drug could get into her body. Recall that the athlete was disqualified for two months for a positive doping test for a drug that is a stimulant and metabolic hormone.

        “I never took any illegal drugs in my career,” Hernani tweeted. - From the first day I adhere to the WADA program. I never asked for therapeutic exceptions to use illegal drugs, even when I was sick.
        Letrozole is part of the drug "Femara", which my mother uses every day since 2012 after breast surgery to remove cancer. This medicine was in the house where I live.
        My family and I tried to understand how the drug got into my body. I have no doubt that I accepted it by mistake. It is likely that he got into the food while cooking. Through an experiment, it was found that the amount of substance that was found in my blood can be obtained from less than one Femara pill.

        I explained everything to the tribunal, which agreed with the following points:
        a) a positive test was a consequence of the ingestion of the drug in food;
        b) there is no evidence that I deliberately took this drug;
        c) there is no evidence that Letrozole would help improve my results.

        As a result, I am suspended for two months. The suspension will end on October 2. All my results from February 16 to June 7 are canceled. Points will be removed from me, and I must return the prize money.

        Of course I'm upset. However, now I can only wait. It is a pity that it happened, but I am clean in front of myself and did not violate any anti-doping rules

        request request request wassat lol lol lol
        1. Lev Bronsch
          Lev Bronsch 27 January 2018 22: 55
          +1
          And what is the key word in your post? BELIEVED. They believe them and that's it, but they don’t believe ours. And immediately the question - why communicate, do something joint with people who quite publicly and officially believe in all sorts of nonsense, and they don’t believe your word, backed up by hundreds of negative doping tests! It is very simple - there is prof. sports, then the athletes themselves, by clubs, by other forms of associations, attract private, namely private! capital for sponsorship, other types of capital - advertising .... And live from this, accepting the rules that dictates capital! I insist - capital !! None of our skaters were banned in Korea. Do you know why - the IOC info committee is against it. That is, it is possible to be disqualified, but sponsors do not need zero broadcast ratings, the main consumer is Japan, Korea, China and empty seats in the stands. And besides our girls there’s no one to look at, and the popularity of Medvedeva and her image of Sailor Moon in Asia just rolls over. So they stuck on the IOC, supposedly incorruptible, and shut up the IOC, immediately BELIEVED the innocence of our athletes
    3. Boris Muromtsev
      Boris Muromtsev 26 January 2018 20: 29
      +4
      Through suction
    4. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 January 2018 21: 10
      12
      WADA “accidentally” destroyed all samples of American athletes over the past 26 years
      26 July 2016, 22: 29
      Suddenly it turned out that the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) lost all samples of athletes who played for the US team from 1990 to 2016. The agency explained that this was the result of a cleaning lady’s mistake, which accidentally dropped racks with samples of American athletes and all 30 thousand tubes were smashed to smithereens.
      The destruction of all doping samples by WADA American athletes reported the British agency BBC.
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 27 January 2018 10: 55
        +3
        Again HOW and with PACE to buy rods for your money.
        "The total amount of contributions to the budget of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) made by Russia between 2002 and 2017 is $ 10,967 million.
        In 2017, Russia contributed $ 815 to the budget of WADA. The amount paid in 630 was $ 2016. "
        https://rsport.ria.ru/around/20171013/1127107930.
        html
        "The budget of WADA in 2016 amounted to $ 30 million, and in 2017 it should increase by 5%. But based on the agency’s budget in 2017, which amounted to $ 29,7 million, an increase of the budget by 8 %, 15%, 15% and 5% between 2018 and 2021
        There is generally sincere recognition: aWADA CEO Olivier Niggly "" The additional financing that we seek to provide thanks to our traditional sponsors and private sources (financing) will significantly increase the scale, speed and access area of ​​WADA in carrying out the main activities of the organization "...
        https://rsport.ria.ru/around/20170924/1126244451.
        html
        Smiled ..
        "TRADITIONAL SPONSORS and PRIVATE SOURCES OF FINANCING!" "((" Who dines with a girl dances her "))
        As one investigator said: "Remember, sincere confession is the first step ... into the cell and for a long time!"
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 27 January 2018 15: 39
        +2
        Quote: Natalia777
        that this was the result of a cleaning lady oversight

        what a timely oversight of the cleaning lady!
    5. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 27 January 2018 02: 35
      +1
      Quote: Vard
      In March 2017, the banned substance probenecid was found in Roberts' doping test. The 2016 Olympic champion in the 4 × 100 m relay said that it got into his body through the kiss of a girl who, due to a sinus infection, used a drug containing probenecid. According to the athlete, he had no idea that the prohibited substance could be transmitted through a kiss. As a result, the American Arbitration Association refused to disqualify the athlete.

      there literally a couple of days ago was a sequel !! wassat wassat request request request

      CAS did not satisfy WADA's appeal on acquittal of an American runner caught in doping
      The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) did not satisfy the appeal of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) against the decision of the American Arbitration Association (AAA), which recognized the Olympic champion of the 2016 Games in Rio de Janeiro in the relay 4x400 m American Gil Roberts not guilty of the use of illegal drugs .
    6. Deck
      Deck 28 January 2018 09: 32
      +2
      So what? Olympic sport lives by clear and understandable rules. https://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/medved2006/15
      59148.html
    7. Deck
      Deck 31 January 2018 23: 15
      +1
      169 athletes will go! In 2002, 151 athletes from Russia participated in the Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, in 2006 in Turin - 190, in 2010 in Vancouver - 177. Where did Mr. Chuvakin count 500 athletes? And why is this?
  2. Luga
    Luga 26 January 2018 15: 12
    +7
    An IOC boycott in sports is like a UN boycott in politics. It only makes sense if you manage to create an alternative and equivalent union. I doubt that now Russia can do it. So you need to fight by the means that are. Voluntary isolation is not an option. Partners are just waiting for this.
    1. axxenm
      axxenm 26 January 2018 15: 24
      19

      Quote: Luga
      An IOC boycott in sports is like a UN boycott in politics. It only makes sense if you manage to create an alternative and equivalent union. I doubt that now Russia can do it. So you need to fight by the means that are. Voluntary isolation is not an option. Partners are just waiting for this.

      even ssy in the eye all of God's dew ...
      HPP?
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 26 January 2018 16: 52
        11
        "Very famous" in narrow circles "athletes" are fanning a problem that not everyone is interested in, trying to present it as an insult to Russia. Just to participate ourselves, to ensure that the President and the Government must join. This is for the sake of a business show! Too much you want.
        1. The black
          The black 26 January 2018 17: 27
          13
          The Kremlin “deeply” regrets: IOC did not let many famous Russian athletes go to the Winter Olympics
          As they put it in, they regret it .... lay down under the IOC - there’s nothing to whine ... regret it further silently ....
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 26 January 2018 19: 50
        +2
        our government has not protected us. ” “Initially, I lost control of the situation, and when I realized it, it was too late,” she added.
        I wrote several times-- "I am either very smart or ..." ---
        IN 84G OUR PRESS "HOW CAN YOU COUNT MONEY IN THE OLYMPIC MOVEMENT", "ABOUT SPORTS — THE WORLD" AND TP
        poked in ambition Moscow-80, and Los Angeles spend profitably.
        it was before perestroika even-- the whole world accepts the concept of "cost-benefit-profit" in the war.
        For 40 years it would have been impossible for our pushers to sleep.
        but mushrooms would grow ...
        1. Grim Reaper
          Grim Reaper 27 January 2018 13: 24
          +3
          In 84, our press talked about profits at the Olympics ??? No, I won’t send you routing immediately, I’ll ask for links or screenshots of newspapers. If not difficult. And if you send me to Google - so you just pi $ dabol.
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 27 January 2018 13: 59
            +1
            I'm the one you think.
            personal memories from newspapers from a comparison of Friendship 84 and OI84
            I do not go into the brains of others
            expressed his worldview with you
            more often happens as he called and called
            1. Grim Reaper
              Grim Reaper 28 January 2018 06: 50
              +2
              If you mean that the press wrote about the venality of games in Los Angeles, then yes. But I don’t remember, and I won’t believe that they could write that the games in Moscow were ambitious. That is how I understood your comment.
      3. Lev Bronsch
        Lev Bronsch 26 January 2018 20: 13
        14
        Do not talk nonsense ... IOC is a public organization, very distant from the state and governments. Well, at least that's what they say laughing . The USSR was not a member for a long time and did not go; China, too, did not immediately. So what? Someone died, someone felt bad, except for functionaries and people who, apart from fast running / jumping, are no longer capable of anything, did it get worse ?? Why do we need them? To the health of the nation prof. sport has nothing to do!
      4. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 27 January 2018 03: 09
        10
        Quote: axxenm
        even ssy in the eye all of God's dew ...
        HPP?

        Actually, right now, they are expecting a boycott from the athletes !!! what what they suffer all humiliation in their direction, the state in the person of officials doesn’t bore much ... the athletes themselves agreed to the humiliation under a white rag, now they themselves slurp it !!! request request wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
        1. bokarev7
          bokarev7 27 January 2018 08: 57
          +1
          Nikolai Grek writes: “... the athletes themselves agreed to humiliation under a white rag, now they themselves slurp it !!!”
          No one agreed! They know that they were caught doping. And in this situation, the rights do not pump. The proof is this.
          On TV, commentator Dmitry Guberniev was indignant why our athletes themselves (he called the name of Shipulin) did not make a statement about doping, which was not there. And this nightingale from sports (Guberniev) does not understand that Shipulin does not want to engage in lies and shame on the whole world. But Gubernieva is not afraid of such a shame ...
          1. bokarev7
            bokarev7 27 January 2018 09: 27
            +4
            I test my friends for their ability to work as a sports commentator such as D. Guberniev in this way.
            We must comment on the 100-meter race of former US President Kennedy and Khrushchev N.S. with a huge belly so as to humiliate Kennedy and exalt Khrushchev. Everyone who runs to the finish line is clear to everyone.
            Here is this comment.
            “As a result of the race .... "Khrushchev ran second to the finish line, and Kennedy ran last but one."
            He came up with this example when he drew attention to his comments on the biathlon skiers. “Our athlete is fighting for prizes (running in the top three athletes).” Then he fell behind. "Our athlete is fighting for getting into the FIRST Five." Still behind. "Our athlete is fighting for getting into the TOP Ten" and so on ...
          2. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 27 January 2018 15: 59
            +1
            Quote: bokarev7
            Nikolai Grek writes: “... the athletes themselves agreed to humiliation under a white rag, now they themselves slurp it !!!”
            No one agreed! They know that they were caught doping. And in this situation, the rights do not pump. The proof is this.
            On TV, commentator Dmitry Guberniev was indignant why our athletes themselves (he called the name of Shipulin) did not make a statement about doping, which was not there. And this nightingale from sports (Guberniev) does not understand that Shipulin does not want to engage in lies and shame on the whole world. But Gubernieva is not afraid of such a shame ...

            recourse recourse recourse even your nonsense there is no desire to comment !!! what what wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
    2. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 26 January 2018 17: 55
      12
      Quote: Luga
      So you need to fight by the means that are.

      Well, how's the fight? Is there enough funds? wink
      Everyone is beaten up by the weak (especially if they pay extra for this).
      Russia shows its weakness in this matter. Well, all the jackals gathered.
      1. Luga
        Luga 26 January 2018 20: 12
        +6
        Quote: Hlavaty
        Well, how's the fight? Is there enough funds?

        Lacks. Mattresses have the most strength and resources. The USSR was much stronger (I take into account the entire social camp) and then in 1984 without him the Olympics were held and nothing. Or is it that everyone thinks that the light has wedged on us? Without us, water will not be sanctified I’m disappointing. Everything will go perfectly, few will notice our absence, and even fewer who regret it will be much more pleased.
        We - you, me, all - with the Olympics have already been rolled. It is a fact. Our athletes participate or not, it is already important only for these athletes. And they want to participate, they have been going towards this all their lives. We will leave the IOC - we will be deprived of the other Olympiads with great (!) Joy. If here it seems to many that, having left the IOC, we, like, with a proud head raised, are withdrawing undefeated, then personally I am afraid that everything will look exactly the opposite. The mongrel got a boot in the face and hid under the key, flashing out evil eyes from there. I assure you, they will try to hold us there as long as possible to the great joy of the concerned spectators.
        No, guys. Since we were so liquidly condemned in 90's and later, we need to clean ourselves up, as if it were disgusting and filthy from this. And you still have to clean up more than once or twice, the mattresses have long hands. And instead of cleaning you want to hide in a corner and let it stink further.
        I assure you, I am also furious how you are and how many here are from this outrage, which is arranged by international organizations in the United States and not only in relation to Russia. It’s hard to stand with your head proudly raised when feces are being thrown at you, this also requires courage, but it is necessary because if you break, run away, get out of the way, you endured, loser. And this is worse than ... than all.
        You can evaluate the situation differently. But in my opinion, slamming the door now is the same as signing your own eternal weakness and helplessness, de facto accepting all the accusations and becoming like an evil rat driven into a shop.
        1. Hlavaty
          Hlavaty 26 January 2018 22: 40
          24
          Quote: Luga
          We - you, me, all - with the Olympics have already been rolled

          Quote: Luga
          I assure you, I am also furious how you are and how many here are from this outrage, which is arranged by international organizations in the United States and not only in relation to Russia.

          Do not rush to put me near.
          I was NOT rolled with the Olympics, because for me the Olympics means absolutely nothing. This is some kind of international business, from which ordinary citizens get no benefit. And the fans are the same. Since it’s now customary to get sick in TV pubs, for the health of the Olympics it turns out not only does not bring any benefit, but even harms the health of the fans.
          It would be better if this Olympic money was spent on the development of physical education, free sports sections, etc. And so the country spent a lot of money on athletes and officials, and received only shame and disappointment. And the people did not become any healthier.
          And I assure you, I am NOT furious how are you from the lawlessness of the “partners”, because the partners behave as their education and Russia allow them. The "partners" decided to trample on the weak. Well, these are they "civilized white people." For Russia and for you, is this news? If not, where did you get the desire to "stand with your head proudly raised when feces are thrown at you" or "agree de facto with all the accusations and become like an evil rat driven into a shop"? Who do you want to impress? To the west? And why do you need this?
          Better engage in the development of yourself and your country. You will make a greater impression on them: for them, each of your success is a knife in the heart. And trying to play THEIR games according to THEIR rules is a silly and thankless task. Because they themselves do not comply. As the English say: "If a gentleman cannot win by the rules, then he changes the rules." Which you observe constantly.
          1. Sapiens 63
            Sapiens 63 26 January 2018 23: 23
            +8
            OOO ..... Mutko’s associate, Mr. Luga, it’s your personal business to stand under the feces with your head held high, I understand that in a household quarrel somewhere on the road, you would prefer to be pissed, but you will bear it and you won’t give change .. . Oh well. You just don’t impose this point of view on the country, but if you can, you can instill such a model of behavior into your son ... fu, having read your comment, it’s as if he himself had come
          2. sds87
            sds87 27 January 2018 19: 53
            +3
            Quote: Hlavaty
            Better engage in the development of yourself and your country. You will make a greater impression on them: for them, each of your success is a knife in the heart.

            I agree with your opinion 100%. Develop sports in your own country. Why climb where there is no sport left, and there is only a frenzied policy pursued by the collective West? Did Sadomazo want to?
        2. helmi8
          helmi8 26 January 2018 23: 05
          17
          Quote: Luga
          It is hard to stand with your head proudly raised when feces are being thrown at you, this also requires courage, but it is necessary because if you break, run away, get out of the way, you endured, loser.

          Did you understand what you wrote? Everything is exactly the opposite. Bucket of slop poured on you - and you with head proudly raised all this is courageously endured, you justify yourself. This is what she endured. And this will continue until there is no answer.
          And those who go there go for shame, to be patient. They won’t be given anything to win anyway, and if someone accidentally reaches the prizes, he will immediately be caught using doping.
        3. shuravi
          shuravi 26 January 2018 23: 09
          +5
          Quote: Luga
          Quote: Hlavaty
          Well, how's the fight? Is there enough funds?

          Lacks. Mattresses have the most strength and resources. The USSR was much stronger (I take into account the entire social camp) and then in 1984 without him the Olympics were held and nothing. Or is it that everyone thinks that the light has wedged on us? Without us, water will not be sanctified I’m disappointing. Everything will go perfectly, few will notice our absence, and even fewer who regret it will be much more pleased.
          We - you, me, all - with the Olympics have already been rolled. It is a fact. Our athletes participate or not, it is already important only for these athletes. And they want to participate, they have been going towards this all their lives. We will leave the IOC - we will be deprived of the other Olympiads with great (!) Joy. If here it seems to many that, having left the IOC, we, like, with a proud head raised, are withdrawing undefeated, then personally I am afraid that everything will look exactly the opposite. The mongrel got a boot in the face and hid under the key, flashing out evil eyes from there. I assure you, they will try to hold us there as long as possible to the great joy of the concerned spectators.
          No, guys. Since we were so liquidly condemned in 90's and later, we need to clean ourselves up, as if it were disgusting and filthy from this. And you still have to clean up more than once or twice, the mattresses have long hands. And instead of cleaning you want to hide in a corner and let it stink further.
          I assure you, I am also furious how you are and how many here are from this outrage, which is arranged by international organizations in the United States and not only in relation to Russia. It’s hard to stand with your head proudly raised when feces are being thrown at you, this also requires courage, but it is necessary because if you break, run away, get out of the way, you endured, loser. And this is worse than ... than all.
          You can evaluate the situation differently. But in my opinion, slamming the door now is the same as signing your own eternal weakness and helplessness, de facto accepting all the accusations and becoming like an evil rat driven into a shop.


          Are you Mutko, Zhukov? Or just unconventional?
        4. Sadam
          Sadam 27 January 2018 02: 11
          +3
          I will support. even here in Canada, all the latest news about OI / Russia is already commented on that it’s not about sport but that’s about politics. Norwegians about biathlon without Russians. and that the British are seeking a ban on Russian paraphernalia, otherwise they will boycott oi ... and if the Russians do not come then this is what they are seeking. the holiday will certainly be, but the Olympics are not full
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 27 January 2018 03: 10
        +1
        Quote: Hlavaty
        Quote: Luga
        So you need to fight by the means that are.

        Well, how's the fight? Is there enough funds? wink
        Everyone is beaten up by the weak (especially if they pay extra for this).
        Russia shows its weakness in this matter. Well, all the jackals gathered.


        I’ve read an entertaining article, it’s well designed .... it seems to be generally not about the behavior of athletes, but it is rather succinctly described tongue wassat good
        And if purely human?
        And if purely human, the decision of the Russian state not to impose its opinion on the athletes was ... kind. Yes, just kind.
        The situation is extremely unusual for a country where state interests historically dominate over private, public - over personal, and any citizen is ultimately regarded as a soldier who should be ready to fulfill his duty and the order given to him.
        And the latter concerns athletes to a tenfold degree, given that the great sport during the Cold War turned into a sublimation of the global geopolitical confrontation, an object of national and state pride.
        As a result, the Russian government unexpectedly broke its own centuries-old attitude and did things important for itself for the sake of the private and absolutely selfish desire of a small number of people - several hundred athletes for whom a trip to the Olympics is a blue dream for which they are ready to sacrifice everything.
        I repeat, for this text the main question is not whether the state acted correctly and cleverly, but it really did kindly - kindly to its own people.
        Perhaps this is the main lesson that should be learned from what is happening in Russian society - our state is now capable and ready to take into account the private interests of its citizens ...
        Although no, the main lesson of what is happening is still different.
        For the sake of its athletes, Russia took upon itself all the bumps of the current showdown with the international sports bureaucracy: it did not slam the door, accepted the humiliation of the state flag, agreed to pay fifteen million compensation, etc. etc.

        All in order for some private individuals to fulfill the dream of their life.
        What is the result?
        But in the end, these individuals continue to be subjected to sophisticated humiliation by the same international sports bureaucracy .....

        the whole article is in link !!
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        1. Hlavaty
          Hlavaty 27 January 2018 09: 10
          +9
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          the decision of the Russian state not to impose its opinion on the athletes was ... kind. Yes, just kind.

          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          Perhaps this is the main lesson that should be learned from what is happening in Russian society - our state is now capable and ready to take into account the private interests of its citizens ...

          Everything would be as beautiful and kind as you describe, if not for one BUT. State funds were spent on training athletes and maintaining near sports officials. That is, folk. And that means "to take into account the private interests of their citizens" at the expense of taxes collected from all over the country - this is some excessive kindness.
          If this Olympic party supported itself with its own money and did not drain from the budget funds that are already not enough for normal pensions and salaries for doctors and teachers, then no one would say a word. Everyone would regard this as a business - people invested money and did not receive the planned profit. It happens...
          But everything happens exactly the opposite. The state tells the people that Olympic records are the prestige and pride of the country! That Russia cannot do without this at all. And so the whole Ministry of Sports feeds and tens of millions invests in the training of athletes and tens of millions more as various contributions to feed the international Olympic parasites. With such a supply and funding from the state, athletes cannot simply be "private individuals who want to fulfill the dream of their life." With such a state organization of sports, an athlete cannot be considered otherwise than "as a soldier who should be ready to fulfill his duty and the order given to him."
          The state spent national money on the athlete, and therefore, when this state is humiliated, the athlete does not have the right to pretend that he has nothing to do with it, but simply a “private person”. He must. Really owes to both the state and the people.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 27 January 2018 16: 02
            +1
            Quote: Hlavaty
            Everything would be as beautiful and kind as you describe, if not for one BUT

            all this is indicated in the article !!! request request laughing
      3. Victor N
        Victor N 27 January 2018 13: 43
        +5
        It is believed that for Russia this issue is far from the most important.
        And I believe that sport (business show) is separate, Russia is separate.
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 27 January 2018 14: 05
          +1
          agree
          only sponsors will be offended (western) if our stripes are not shown on skis and poles
    3. Mih1974
      Mih1974 26 January 2018 19: 51
      14
      Explain to us “stupid” - what will TAM gain if Russia will boycott such “games”? And also - what will Russia lose if it will boycott?
      And then I personally think "stupid" to think - that with the correct voice of the naked motives of the blockade of the "games", Russia will not only not lose, but also win. good Do you think the rest will like that the Americans “can do everything” - figs, only everyone “writes with hot urine” Get up, openly state this and leave OK and start everywhere to boycott these games.
      If China in the economy can and is already doing various actions to avoid the dominance of stakes, then no one is stopping Russia from initiating the process - refusals of SUCH IOC and such WADA. good . Yes - there will be squeals and demands to “punish Russia,” but then others will take such a step because they are not included in the supposedly “indulged” athletes. Actually, that Russia is losing from the step I proposed - but nothing, because here ALREADY it will continue to be so, our real applicants for victory will simply not be allowed to compete.
    4. KaPToC
      KaPToC 26 January 2018 22: 41
      +1
      Quote: Luga
      An IOC boycott in sports is like a UN boycott in politics.

      This is not the same thing.
      Quote: Luga
      It only makes sense if you manage to create an alternative and equivalent union.

      But why?
      Quote: Luga
      Voluntary isolation is not an option. Partners are just waiting for this.

      Refusal of the Olympics is not isolation.
      You can’t be half pregnant, here either Russia participates in full, or does not participate at all.
    5. trenkkvaz
      trenkkvaz 27 January 2018 08: 42
      +2
      What is needed is not a boycott of one IOC, but pressure on those sports federations where Russia occupies leading positions. It is necessary to conduct such a company in order to quarrel world sports functionaries among themselves.
      Let there be losses at first. But this is a war in which losses are inevitable.
      Fearing loss, we will suffer shame after shame.
    6. jeezar
      jeezar 27 January 2018 10: 53
      +3
      Participation in the Olympics is not an obligation. There are world championships, world cups, which in composition will be better than the Olympics. Such a religious attitude to the Olympics has remained from Soviet times. Coubertin what did he say? Oh sport, you are the world! And the Soviet Union was for peace. So everything has grown very well for propaganda. And now it is necessary to lower the degree of exaltation. In federations, more sane people work. Although ... After the IOC they can take on them. An example is FIFA.
    7. Wolverine
      Wolverine 27 January 2018 12: 53
      +4
      Quote: Luga
      An IOC boycott in sports is like a UN boycott in politics. It only makes sense if you manage to create an alternative and equivalent union. I doubt that now Russia can do it. So you need to fight by the means that are. Voluntary isolation is not an option. Partners are just waiting for this.


      Here is an article from one resource.
      So the Olympics. What problem we will solve by participating in it like a rootless cattle.
      Without the symbols of Russia, humiliated and offended.
      Tear no one to tear. On the other hand, officials who saw grandmothers on the sport of high achievements will chew snot on the IOC’s position, who didn’t let our athletes go ... etc.
      We need it. We sent the IOC forest in 1984. So what. Survived.
      The position of the IOC is purely American. It fits into the principle of sanctions.
      The ban on the use of the flag and symbols of Russia is a cynical political insult to the country.
      1. Refuse to participate in the Olympics.
      2. Introduce sanctions against members of the IOC.
      3. Stop payments to the IOC.
      4. Initiate a criminal case against IOC members for insulting the symbols of state power in Russia.
      5. Athletes who wish to participate in the Olympiad without a flag and anthem go at their own expense.
      6. To revise the attitude to high achievement sports by removing state financing and transferring funds to children's sports.
      7. To realize that time has shown that the sport of great achievements has nothing to do with a healthy lifestyle.
      This is a disabled incubator.

      PS: they say that the athlete went to the Olympics for 4 years. We have thousands of sick and destitute people who have been moving towards normal life for decades. And do not reach. And we do not help them, but lop-footed players who have long lost contact with Russia. Moreover, some of them are generally foreign mercenaries. Where is Russia?

      http://www.yaplakal.com/forum7/topic...zen.yandex
      .com
      1. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty 28 January 2018 13: 41
        +1
        Great plan! good
        Now, to find the one who implements it ... recourse request sad
  3. Masya masya
    Masya masya 26 January 2018 15: 17
    29
    I have already said that it is worth bending once to get rid of to the end! teammate today, tomorrow you! and who else knows what this IOC has prepared for a snack ...
    1. Vard
      Vard 26 January 2018 15: 22
      12
      I think the football championship and I will be bent ... at best there will be no national team ... there’s a joke so a joke ...
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 26 January 2018 16: 53
        20
        Quote: Vard
        I think the football championship and I will be bent ... at best there will be no national team ... there’s a joke so a joke ...

        Everything will be just that, in South Korea it is a probing reaction ..
        It’s a shame for the country, forever we make excuses and try to be indignant .. And you need to firmly knock with your fist right up to the threat of the military .. You don’t have to go far, the example with the DPRK will be there with open arms and respect they will accept this small but proud country and they deserve it this is respect!
        1. bokarev7
          bokarev7 27 January 2018 07: 44
          +1
          Meehan writes: “I am ashamed of the country, we always make excuses and try to resent. And you need to firmly knock your fist right up to the military threat. ”That is, you were caught cheating, and you must show rudeness in response -“ knock your fist ”, fear the military threat,
          Mikhan wrote to himself: “I just love the Motherland!” This is how to write: “I am humble and honest!” They don’t shout about love for the Motherland.
      2. KaPToC
        KaPToC 26 January 2018 22: 44
        +1
        Quote: Vard
        I think the football championship and I will be bent ... at best there will be no national team ... there’s a joke so a joke ...

        How do they bend us on our territory? This is physically impossible, proved by Karl12, Napoleon, Hitler.
        1. Antares
          Antares 27 January 2018 14: 54
          +1
          Quote: KaPToC
          It is physically impossible

          a donkey loaded with gold - will take any fortress. Proven by Philip of Macedon.
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 27 January 2018 15: 58
            +2
            Quote: Antares
            a donkey loaded with gold - will take any fortress. Proven by Philip of Macedon.

            Che he does not take the North Korean fortress?
      3. Alone
        Alone 27 January 2018 10: 52
        +1
        If our FOOTBALLERS are accused of doping, then this will really be ridiculous laughing
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 27 January 2018 12: 41
          +3
          Quote: Alone
          If our FOOTBALLERS are accused of doping, then this will really be ridiculous

          Is brake fluid considered doping? Our football team will lose without the help of WADA.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 26 January 2018 15: 28
      25
      Quote: Masya Masya
      I have already said that it is worth bending once to get rid of to the end! teammate today, tomorrow you! and who else knows what this IOC has prepared for a snack ...

      That's right ... as the organizers of the Winter Olympics themselves admit, without the Russian team, the Olympics are not the Olympics.
      Our athletes were obliged to boycott the Korean Olympics, as well as all our sports structures. And no one talks about not going to the Olympics at all. I am talking specifically about this Olympics. In doing so, find leverage on WADA and the IOC.
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 26 January 2018 17: 24
        26
        In fact, the primary task of the leadership of any country is to protect the interests of this country. Her virtues. And not those individuals who do not care deeply about the anthem and flag, if only there was an opportunity to speak at the Games. In the USSR, athletes were real national heroes, in now they have become just businessmen, without nationality, without pride and without honor.
        Speaking at the Games under the conditions proposed to our country is a betrayal of national dignity.
        1. Rurikovich
          Rurikovich 26 January 2018 19: 30
          +7
          Quote: Reserve officer
          And not those individuals who do not care deeply about the anthem and flag, if only there was an opportunity to speak at the Games. In the USSR, athletes were real national heroes, in now they have become just businessmen, without nationality, without pride and without honor.

          good
          Quote: Reserve officer
          Speaking at the Games under the conditions proposed to our country is a betrayal of national dignity.

          good good good drinks hi
          1. Reserve officer
            Reserve officer 26 January 2018 20: 26
            10
            There is one more point that is not yet being discussed. Such behavior of these so-called "athletes" is a powerful blow to the psyche of adolescents. They take an example from them. And they just wiped their feet on the state symbols of the country. Thus, they gave a command to young athletes - "do as I do!" A country is nothing, money is everything! How many mutilated souls they gave rise to by their betrayal ...
      2. Lev Bronsch
        Lev Bronsch 26 January 2018 19: 59
        +5
        Why boycott ?? You just need to look at the IOC statutory documents and understand that the Olympiad is a competition of individuals! Specifically, individual athletes and no countries are not there initially! Therefore, whoever wants and can go at his own expense - yes please, at least under the flag of Honduras, at least under the neutral, BUT! For your own, not a state account !! Win - applaud, pro ... ut - and God be with them)). I understand that it is possible for public finances to find a smarter application than to find out who damn ski runs 50 km faster? Well, we found it easier for you laughing
      3. KaPToC
        KaPToC 26 January 2018 22: 46
        +4
        Quote: NEXUS
        Boycott Korean Olympics

        No need to call it a boycott, it’s in the hands of the IOC. We do not boycott, we were banned - we did not go, the whole team.
    3. Mih1974
      Mih1974 26 January 2018 19: 52
      +9
      On the radio’s greetings, a cool idea was voiced - and let our athletes sew on their form on the back and chest “yellow stars of David”. As at one time in Nazi Germany they sewed Jews. And even it will be very interesting to see how they will be "torn off" or will be prohibited.
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 26 January 2018 19: 58
        +5
        Quote: Mih1974
        And even it will be very interesting to see how they will be "torn off" or will be banned.

        and let them only sue! wink
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 26 January 2018 19: 59
          +3
          good In in, I suspect what SUCH - Javras from them will begin to take their skins alive! good
      2. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 26 January 2018 20: 04
        +3
        Quote: Mih1974
        and let our athletes sew on their form on the back and chest "yellow stars of David."

        Misha, the Jews will be unhappy, And given that the lion's share of the oligarchs and businessmen ... um ... who is clear, then the howl will rise utterly. lol
        Maybe the people are not bad, but somehow too mercantile what request
        Babos rule wassat
        Therefore these associations
        Quote: Mih1974
        As at one time in Nazi Germany they sewed Jews.

        many of those in power will like it lol After all, where you don’t spit, you’ll either be in -vitch or in -man laughing
  4. bandabas
    bandabas 26 January 2018 15: 18
    15
    Between this and then. So we got the last ones. A certain "Union of Russian driving schools" made a proposal to change the driver’s license to pass the exam again. What a fright? Personally, for 18 years of driving I have only one violation (speeding 10 km). And, judging by our authorities and the traffic police, they will. Nobody canceled the feeders.
    1. Vard
      Vard 26 January 2018 15: 23
      +5
      I remember how they broke the ban on externally ...
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 26 January 2018 16: 56
        +2
        What is the relation to the topic? Ugly .....
        1. bandabas
          bandabas 27 January 2018 21: 57
          +1
          Why not the topic? Right now. I will say more. About production. Almost everywhere in the country they continue to remove specialists from work, it doesn’t matter when they unlearn. 20 years ago or 5. Is the analogy clear? They remove those who follow the principle and try to prove how to do it. And, turning the mouse over a PC is the specificity of most of our grown and younger generation. By the way, Victor N. Have you been to Red?
    2. ARES623
      ARES623 26 January 2018 22: 20
      +3
      Quote: bandabas
      A certain "Union of Russian driving schools" made a proposal to replace the driver’s license to pass the exam again

      I am making a counter proposal - to oblige the officials of the Union of Russian Driving Schools every five years and, upon hiring, to pass the state exams of universities in which they received their diplomas.
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 26 January 2018 23: 00
        +1
        Quote: ARES623
        I am making a counter proposal - to oblige the officials of the Union of Russian Driving Schools every five years and, upon hiring, to pass the state exams of universities in which they received their diplomas.

        On the radio, there was a response sentence - to put everyone in jail to study the criminal code.
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 27 January 2018 09: 16
          +1
          Quote: KaPToC
          On the radio, there was a response sentence - to put everyone in jail to study the criminal code.

          Well, really tough laughing
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 27 January 2018 12: 42
            +1
            Quote: ARES623
            Well, really tough

            Yes there are still funny people sitting on Westhip. And the proposal came from the listener.
      2. bandabas
        bandabas 27 January 2018 22: 09
        +1
        Changes in traffic rules are made a couple of times a year. So annually.
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 27 January 2018 23: 10
          +1
          Quote: bandabas
          Changes in traffic rules are made a couple of times a year. So annually.

          And let's pass the exam every year?
          1. bandabas
            bandabas 29 January 2018 15: 12
            0
            Fortunately, I was lucky. There was no such awn (USE) under the USSR.
    3. Zefr
      Zefr 29 January 2018 00: 35
      0
      Well, as it were, the specialists you are worried about are also required to take qualification exams regularly. We have - welders - a NAKS certificate every 2 years, a flaw detector operator - 3 years, a safety engineer every 3 years, and so on. So, the requirement for motorists to re-read the rules once every ten years is not so extraordinary.
      1. bandabas
        bandabas 29 January 2018 15: 24
        0
        And I don’t worry. . Every year, as a specialist working in existing electrical installations, I pass exams. Additionally, at different intervals, as the person responsible for the oil and gas industry, cranes, vessels, production of cars on line, etc. But!!! At the same time, I am an official, I work in production and I am responsible not only for myself, but also for subordinates .. By the way, in the USA the entire "medical commission" is done only once upon receipt of rights, and includes VISITING. Do not confuse production and ordinary civilian life
  5. Baloo
    Baloo 26 January 2018 15: 21
    14
    Russian Olympians are clamped,
    -they themselves asked for humiliation, it was necessary to ignore, what does self-isolation have to do with it? Collect all slops against the members of the mok and savor. using the yellow press. What did the hackers find there, what documents on Wada’s cooperation with the American and English special services. That twist from morning to evening.
    and in the Kremlin, "deeply" regret
    and this is what offends me the most. Judging by the cost overruns for the construction of facilities, there should be actions, but they don’t. Humiliation with the Olympics is expected and predictable from Sochi. Where are the actions, what has the Olympic Committee of the Russian Federation been doing all this time. Evil is not enough, I’ll go to instill antigrustin.
  6. flicker
    flicker 26 January 2018 15: 32
    +3
    In order to annoy us, they decided SPORT as a sight to destroy. Well, success to them yes
    In all it is clear that not everything is calm in the deep state ... the Danish kingdom.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 26 January 2018 15: 43
    +9
    How they fought, they ran into it ... Half-hearted decisions and not brought to the end do not lead to good .. And the attitude to our athletes .. it's like in a joke: The old maiden is asked why you are still not married? Because, all men walk naked ...... ????????? .... So they are in clothes! And under the clothes they’re still naked .... Russians take doping, if they come to the Olympics those who are not involved in the reception will take ... But of course this is not the case .. The West has succeeded in creating rogue states ... Now the outcast sculpt from Russia ...
    1. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 26 January 2018 17: 26
      32
      No one sculpts anyone. We ourselves have blinded this image for a long time. Since the time of Yeltsin and Gorbachev. And our "guarantor" is trying to fake the image of a certain peacemaker. Here is the result. When you listen to politicians, athletes, journalists, you’re just furious. What are they saying? What is the Serbian flag, what is the Sochi form, what are the letters of protest? What are they about?
  8. Loess
    Loess 26 January 2018 16: 03
    +2
    “We deeply regret in this regard, if such decisions have really been made,” commented the Kremlin representative Dmitry Peskov.
    He is accused of these words ??? What did he have to say? What do we warmly welcome? The team does not go, the athletes were allowed to make a decision on their own. Now ban? Today you can go, tomorrow you can’t? Themselves disgraced the athletes who agree to go, and now when the IOC has already refused them, now the officials are to blame again? Yes, it’s frankly all the same who will be allowed to play and who will not. How much can you moan?
    1. Lev Bronsch
      Lev Bronsch 26 January 2018 20: 06
      +3
      The fact is that according to the documents of the IOC itself there are no teams there, in general !! Learn the question! There are NOCs, ours is temporarily banned for six months. And without explanation)). But NOC is a public organization. And athletes go to the Olympics individually, as documented. Therefore - let them go, for their own, and not a state account! A very simple and elegant solution. By the way, many athletes are quite wealthy people. Again, due to the state budget. Let the once shake the shit, if they are so hunting in Korea laughing . And there they can wave any flag, whose citizenship will it be? And by the way, one must understand that the whole “western” sport is one continuous dope and is caught there, punished and forgiven on the basis of very different factors, but the purity of doping tests is in last place. Give you examples ??
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 26 January 2018 23: 05
        +2
        Quote: Lev Bronsch
        And athletes go to the Olympics individually, as documented. Therefore - let them go, for their own, and not a state account!

        Everything is a bit wrong, countries are fighting for quotas in terms of the number of athletes, let these same "white" athletes not go for Russian quotas. Let the IOC release them instead of anyone they want on the field, for example, US quotas.
  9. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 26 January 2018 16: 12
    +2
    If Nikolai Nikolayevich Ozerov had been alive, then he would probably have said once again his famous: "We do not need such hockey!"
    1. kuznec
      kuznec 26 January 2018 17: 39
      +2
      Yeah. Or "Goal -...- Rod." Ozerov, I think, would say "...-...-..."
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 26 January 2018 20: 34
        +3
        Andrei Andreyevich Gromyko, the greatest statesman of the USSR, had three definitions of human behavior. A kind of classification of unprofessionalism.
        First, you are a very strange person.
        The second is the hat.
        The third is the mattress.
        Something tells me that in this situation, the third definition would be for both athletes and the country's leadership.
  10. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 26 January 2018 16: 13
    12
    The main humiliation is yet to come! Remember my word! The weak-minded are always humiliated, and we have just such a power!
    1. Akexandre Fedorovski
      Akexandre Fedorovski 26 January 2018 20: 45
      +4
      The power of nah:
      - illegitimate, seized in it as a result of the 1993 cryptoneosionist coup;
      - not Russian, because it consists of "aliens" who robbed the indigenous peoples of Russia;
      - not Russian, because it continues the policy of genocide of the Russian people, which once formed the basis of the Russian Empire, that is, the crypto-Zionist ...
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 27 January 2018 09: 43
        +1
        laughing It is "nah", as you wrote. Freud error.
  11. afrikanez
    afrikanez 26 January 2018 16: 14
    +6
    Sports in our country have been "cheated" as well as education. No one answers, respectively, no one works (and why, the salary is already going on). The worst thing is that no one wants to change this, but probably not already. Everyone "drowned" in making money, but not for the state but for themselves.
    1. kuznec
      kuznec 26 January 2018 17: 53
      13
      In my small town, the mayor not only does not give money to hockey children for competitions, but also forces the coach to collect compensation from parents for the fact that the city does not earn commerce on the weekend.
      I myself, like many of my peers, have been collecting money for competitions, trips and equipping sambo-judo premises for my children for several years.
      This is some shame! (tsopyricht Bulgakov). When I was growing up, everything was financed by the state, right down to the nutrition of children on trips to competitions.
      I think that money should be allocated primarily for children's sports and physical education among the masses. While billions (of which no one knows how much has been plundered) will be spent for the World Cup, in fact, for our footless millionaire footballers who otherwise cannot go to the World Cup, millions for the sake of traveling sports bureaucrats to parties in Europe at all kinds of IOCs - nothing will come of us. Yes, they will sell all for business trips to Lausanne any.
      My opinion is not to let anyone into the Olympiad, to ban broadcasting, to replace the entire top echelon of sports officials with competent ones. And for the World Cup, the Winter Universiade in Krasnoyarsk and the next Olympics, bend the wada and the mock to the fullest. And to send money to places, to children’s and youth sports and sports facilities.
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 26 January 2018 22: 27
        +1
        Quote: kuznec
        In my small town, the mayor not only does not give money to hockey children for competitions, but also forces the coach to collect compensation from parents for the fact that the city does not earn commerce on the weekend.

        You yourself have chosen this mayor. By the way, above it, too, there is no open sky .... Mayors are also resettled on cameras, if there was a will (at worst, some kind of urban "crazy" one).
        1. kuznec
          kuznec 27 January 2018 07: 45
          +2
          Your truth. Selected 12 years ago, still can not throw.
  12. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 26 January 2018 16: 32
    +2
    Russian Olympians clamped down, and in the Kremlin "deeply" regret
    What can they do in the Kremlin? Is there something to declare war? It remains to do a good face.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 26 January 2018 17: 06
      13
      What can they do in the Kremlin?
      If they can’t do anything, let them give way to others.
      1. _Jack_
        _Jack_ 26 January 2018 17: 32
        0
        Well, others, in your opinion, what should do something with the international Olympic Committee?
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 26 January 2018 17: 44
          12
          international olympic committee?
          send. Only there are many. To send it is necessary to engage in economics and science. Train your athletes and coaches.
          And these would snuggle up to them to win the election, but to hold the football championship, and therefore they do not blather.
          1. _Jack_
            _Jack_ 26 January 2018 18: 54
            +1
            Послать
            an ingenious decision, and that from this all will be immediately admitted to the Olympics?
          2. Tatanka Yotanka
            Tatanka Yotanka 26 January 2018 20: 33
            22
            Quote: Gardamir
            To send it is necessary to engage in economics and science.

    2. Akexandre Fedorovski
      Akexandre Fedorovski 26 January 2018 20: 41
      +7
      But the Kremlin is not Russian. "Aliens" dug in it - this is where all the troubles of the indigenous peoples of Russia come from
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 27 January 2018 09: 48
        +3
        Quote: Akexandre Fedorovski
        But the Kremlin is not Russian. "Aliens"

        Sasha, you have a task, how do I look, to defile the Kremlin, calling it non-Russian? in each comment. What kind of move is the knight? or is such a task given from above?
  13. senima56
    senima56 26 January 2018 17: 04
    10
    Depriving the flag and anthem, and now the inadmissibility of athletes - that's not all! Press and sue will be at the games! Is it really not clear ?! Through athletes they are trying to "bend" Russia! If Mr. MuDko had the honor - he would have shot himself, if he had a conscience - he would have resigned ... But this Mr. has neither one nor the other, but there is a great thirst for power and profit!
    1. Giants
      Giants 26 January 2018 22: 00
      +8
      Quote: senima56
      If Mr. MuDko had the honor - he would have shot himself, if he had a conscience - he would have resigned ... But this Mr. has neither one nor the other, but there is a great thirst for power and profit!

      For any participant in the Kremlin booth, this is the biggest problem - honor, conscience, dignity - well, you can’t buy it for petrodolars. This is unfair to our elite. Here is the latest news, this is the land!
      Russian Olympic athletes will not be able to demonstrate national symbols during the 2018 Games in Pyeongchang. This is stated on the official website of the International Olympic Committee (IOC).
      But, as follows from the official rules of conduct of Russians in competitions, they can use their country's national flag in the bedroom. But only on condition that it will not be visible.
      1. Lev Bronsch
        Lev Bronsch 26 January 2018 22: 19
        +2
        Whoa, you woke up!)) And 1,5 years ago, in Rio, when LA athletes were forbidden to even paint their nails in flag colors, how about that? Did the news pass by? In fact, if the NOC is temporarily suspended and the athletes travel strictly individually, as stipulated by the IOC Charter, then of course only the IOC can decide what is possible and what is not. By the way, and how to invite as a public organization, it can selectively, without telling anyone why Vasya was invited, but Antosha is not ... Another question - why the hell should we participate in such an organization? Moreover, all the top officials of the IOC and WADA are all English-Americans and their most faithful satellites. We will really focus on working with international federations in sports - there are fewer Anglo-Saxon lawlessnesses there and sponsors understand that sometimes it’s necessary to close a shop without Russian athletes. How many of our IOCs lifted for life? And how many federations banned? You understand the point - the IOC removes for violating anti-doping rules, and the Federation says that the evidence is completely sucked from the finger, so let them stand .. There are more than a dozen such athletes!
      2. Baby sitter
        Baby sitter 27 January 2018 00: 36
        +3
        Exclusive sportsmen from Russia themselves chose the path of humiliation! There was an opportunity to remain people ..... but they chose the loot ... no one to blame except for themselves ..
  14. captain
    captain 26 January 2018 17: 27
    +8
    Our leadership needs to understand that being good for all will not work. Russia has always been hated and especially before the USSR. And proceed from the fact that we all hate and are afraid of our vastness. So said one of our kings. And I think he was right. This cartoon about Leopold is all funny and fun; not in life.
  15. mihey
    mihey 26 January 2018 17: 49
    +8
    "Russian Olympians are clamped" - Well, of course, Putin is to blame! And these "Russian Olympians" rags or what? Where is their homeland? Who do they want to fight for there? For the sake of your beloved under any flags, in any clothes? Yes, shame on such "Olympians"! The strength of the country is not in the medals of the Olympiads and earned on this dough, for which they seem ready to sell their homeland. No one they call them in any way.
  16. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 26 January 2018 17: 54
    +2
    While Moscow is “deeply sorry”, the West continues to bend the anti-Russian line.

    Some just exceptional masochism
  17. Romin
    Romin 26 January 2018 18: 07
    12
    The result is one - humiliation in the process and will continue during the time of the Olympics and after.
    What our populists wanted and got.
    Once again I affirm in accepting the statement about the erroneous choice of our President of the Russian Federation in participating in the 2018 Olympic Games.
    Errors Russian President Putin V.V. Does not recognize and does not work on errors.
    So you just have to watch the humiliation of our symbolism, the national team and the country!
    And it is completely clear who is responsible for this.
    Let me remind you once again that we have the State Sports System and there are NO autonomy and independence for athletes of Russian citizens from officials from Russian sports. From the word at all!
    A decision of this level (on taking part in the Olympics 2018 in such a situation) was approved by the President of the Russian Federation.
    Athletes nominally voted, as he was voiced from above. There is no fault of athletes in deciding on a trip to the Olympic Games 2018, this is the decision of the head of state.
    For the budget money they will buy the right to broadcast and we will admire. Our media will fray the topic of the offended and not justice. The truth is not clear to anyone;)) (although people hawks and judging by the traffic to those in our media, this works, there are a lot of examples of advocates of such balobolism on this site without a goal and result)
    The purpose of such a decision to participate in the Olympics 2018 is not clear, as a result of which we get the humiliation of Russia and all citizens of the Russian Federation.

    PS. They made a good decision. And .... ???? !!! We have not developed any strategies or defense tactics. Nothing! And now we are reaping the benefits of such an ill-conceived decision - an absolutely unsystematic approach, i.e. On maybe!
    And this is a clear example of a system created by the President of the Russian Federation that does not work without manual control. And it shows the destructiveness and weakness of the vertical system from the matrix.
    And the situation with the elections is also a clear example!
    Because Everyone understands the erroneous course of the Russian government, but still understands that if Putin leaves, then it is not clear what will happen to the country!
    A system that is not tied to manual control and one-man management is detrimental and risky for any country. The absence of duplicate systems and the fear of "power" and oligarchs before society leads to what happened with the process of further humiliation of Russia and the swallowing of it by many.
    I do not make such a decision, and even if I’m not one of many, I’m not going to swallow the humiliation and inaction of the head of state, the President of the Russian Federation for the protection of Russia and Russian citizens.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 27 January 2018 15: 59
      +5
      Quote: Romin
      Because Everyone understands the erroneous course of the Russian government, but still understands that if Putin leaves, then it is not clear what will happen to the country!

      Quote: Romin
      A system that is not tied to manual control and one-man management is detrimental and risky for any country. The absence of duplicate systems and the fear of "power" and oligarchs before society leads to what happened with the process of further humiliation of Russia and the swallowing of it by many.

      in fact of the matter. The system should work, but it doesn’t. It was not possible to build it in 18 years. Putin’s annual press conferences show that the vast majority of issues MUST be addressed locally. But Putin decides. And what happens there, who did not get through? Paralysis of power throughout the country. Everyone is waiting - what the president will say, where and how he will look, some even spat on his decrees. Medvedev finished his May decrees only this year.
  18. Romin
    Romin 26 January 2018 18: 12
    +9
    Quote: senima56
    Depriving the flag and anthem, and now the inadmissibility of athletes - that's not all! Press and sue will be at the games! Is it really not clear ?! Through athletes they are trying to "bend" Russia! If Mr. MuDko had the honor - he would have shot himself, if he had a conscience - he would have resigned ... But this Mr. has neither one nor the other, but there is a great thirst for power and profit!

    I can offer you to find a biography of Mutko and immediately everything will become clear why he was not only not punished, but not even dismissed.
    This person is from the team of the President of the Russian Federation. And judging by everything from the inner circle.
    1. Akexandre Fedorovski
      Akexandre Fedorovski 26 January 2018 20: 39
      +2
      Are you talking about "ALIEN" HONOR ??? The concept of “honor” is not for “aliens who are united with Russia only by a desire for personal enrichment. In Russia in 1993, as a result of a coup d'etat, cryptoneosionists came to power, and this explains almost everything that is happening now
  19. Dmitry Tantsyura
    Dmitry Tantsyura 26 January 2018 19: 18
    +1
    https://knigavuhe.ru/book/materinskaja-ljubov/
  20. Esoteric
    Esoteric 26 January 2018 19: 21
    +5
    People in the war carried the banner of Victory, they put it on the Reichstag ... And here, in peace, with white ... Well, then, "to each - his own" ...
    1. Akexandre Fedorovski
      Akexandre Fedorovski 26 January 2018 20: 36
      +2
      In the war, our fathers represented the indigenous peoples of Russia, and THESE they are “aliens”, and Russia is not their homeland for them.
    2. ds269
      ds269 26 January 2018 21: 03
      +4
      Proudly carried the RED Banner - then there was a POWER !!!!!!
      now tricolor and Russia in the world means nothing
  21. koksalek
    koksalek 26 January 2018 19: 59
    +8
    I don’t even care how our athletes perform there, anyway because of their servility to the Yankees, because of the silent indifference of the authorities, respect for which melts like snow. Perhaps this is not correct, but I still have some kind of pride, but the aforementioned ones no longer have it.
    1. Akexandre Fedorovski
      Akexandre Fedorovski 26 January 2018 20: 35
      12
      THIS is not the "indifference" of the authorities. The Kremlin just still hopes that such a crawl “on the belly” in front of the crypto-Zionist West will be able to “recapture” at least part of the stolen, frozen by them. As for the HONOR of Russia, the pride of the “Great Russians”, it’s not about this crypto-Zionist government, for which Russia is just a means of enrichment and existence ...
  22. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 26 January 2018 20: 21
    +6
    In the distant 80, the Americans did not consider it a shame not to go to Moscow to visit us. Che we forgot it there ??? Can they manipulate us?
  23. vadivm59
    vadivm59 26 January 2018 20: 24
    +8
    I’m not particularly interested in sports. but in my opinion it all started in the 90s. when our officials made our skaters re-award with gold medals along with amers. I still remember how I swore looking at two pairs of skaters huddling on one m place. The Chinese refused to leave, but we did not, caved in. I don’t remember what the Olympics were. And it all starts with a small one. Now we are reaping the benefits.
  24. akudr48
    akudr48 26 January 2018 20: 26
    +8
    IOC is the enemy, but he is not alone
    Of course, you can search and find the external enemies of the country outside the solar system, but probably it makes sense to look at the enemies of fools inside.
    Rodchenkov is an obvious scum, criminal, traitor, defector, etc. scoundrel.
    But doping cases are built into the business model of sports management in the country, and this changes the case, because it includes a lot of money, deep cuts and large kickbacks.
    Who appointed Rodchenkova as the head of the country's main anti-doping structure - isn’t it muddy, why did he do it and on what terms?
    Why was he released in the USA after his dismissal, when the tail of doping crimes was already reaching for him? Was it not clear what kind of fruit it was? At the same time, he also dragged away the computer base with him, from which all these "indications" are sucked out.
    Why wasn’t a criminal case brought against him in Russia in a timely manner, who did not want to and prevented this, did not give the case progress?
    How does it turn out that the main one in sports - Mutko - is in all matters of sports, in Sochi, in football, in athletics, etc. - aside, he seemed to be out of business, so he passed by? Although it is clear that without this very muddy gentleman no serious issue could be resolved.
    The entire sports management system in the country is built on the business interests of senior officials, hence the roots of doping scandals are drawn. And all the other failures, failures and dead ends where these rulers lead the country.
    It's time to change the whole team, but better - the whole system!
    All for the presidential election!
  25. Cyril312
    Cyril312 26 January 2018 20: 27
    +4
    Yes, our army ... For the athletes who went there. And what about the Duma, and so everyone understands that there are only gandons ...
  26. CooL_SnipeR
    CooL_SnipeR 26 January 2018 20: 29
    +2
    Sport has long been a business, not a fair competition. During the Olympics, all wars stopped before, and now mattresses use this as a weapon. Personally, it’s deep for me ... for the Olympians and others ... it's time to go to work at the factory. Sport is good in moderation and sport where there is no money. After what happened - why many of us go to play under the pirate flag - because they don’t know how to do anything else and there are loot. Wash the best sanctions - send them (the Olympians) in a peaceful direction
  27. Akexandre Fedorovski
    Akexandre Fedorovski 26 January 2018 20: 30
    +6
    Yes, everything is written correctly, except for the incorrectness of comparing the government of the USSR with the government of the Russian Federation. For all the negative things that happened in the USSR, the government was pro-Soviet, and the well-being of the bureaucratic apparatus depended entirely on internal factors. The current illegitimate government is a cryptoneosionist government, whose "well-being" has long been taken offshore. The Kremlin will not understand in any way that frozen funds stolen from the people will never be returned to corrupt officials who dared to oppose the West ... Moreover, the reason for this opposition was not the well-being of the indigenous peoples of Russia.
    Alexandre Fedorovski, Ph.D.
    1. KaPToC
      KaPToC 26 January 2018 23: 15
      +5
      Here it is your "Soviet" government, thoroughly Russophobic, you need to quote Lenin as he called Russian?
      1. shuravi
        shuravi 27 January 2018 21: 51
        +1
        Quote: KaPToC
        Here it is your "Soviet" government, thoroughly Russophobic, you need to quote Lenin as he called Russian?


        Sorry, but this is bullshit from the agitation of the collapse of the USSR.
        Firstly, the reliability of the data is very doubtful.
        Secondly, the products of the military-industrial complex were not included in the GDP of the USSR. In other words, both military personnel and arms manufacturers are in the consumer graph.
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 27 January 2018 23: 08
          +4
          Quote: shuravi
          Sorry, but this is bullshit from the agitation of the collapse of the USSR.
          Firstly, the reliability of the data is very doubtful.

          The fact is that I managed to travel around the USSR and see everything with my own eyes, if the campaign was in favor of the "former", in fact, they took from the Russians many times more than in the table so that the "former" lived many times better.
          Quote: shuravi
          Secondly, the products of the military-industrial complex were not included in the GDP of the USSR. In other words, both military personnel and arms manufacturers are in the consumer graph.

          In which the main consumers are the Western group of forces - Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic states, Warsaw Pact countries. Ukraine at the time of the collapse of the USSR had a powerful army in Europe.
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 27 January 2018 23: 47
          +2
          Quote: shuravi
          Sorry, but this is bullshit from the agitation of the collapse of the USSR.

          nuuuuu ... judging by the rogue state in which the republics found themselves after the collapse of the Union, this is not at all agitation !!! wink yes lol lol and right now, many continue to hang on the neck of Russia !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
  28. Ilya Markelov
    Ilya Markelov 26 January 2018 20: 31
    +1
    Is this what you call journalism journalism? Are you seriously?
  29. 82т11
    82т11 26 January 2018 20: 31
    +7
    Somehow I’m not surprised, officials for the sake of preserving their seats and athletes for the money pushed the country to humiliate (((
    I just don’t understand Putin, he says that he’s the national leader, but he caved in. Maybe Aklella missed and this term is his last? Do not pull the old man!
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 26 January 2018 20: 54
      +8
      Quote: 82т11
      I just don’t understand Putin, he says that he’s the national leader, but he caved in.

      When you understand that Putin is an inflated Bubble, and not a leader, everything will fall into place.
  30. groks
    groks 26 January 2018 20: 35
    +4
    The situation for the Russian Federation is losing in any case. That boycott, that white flag, will be cast as a defeat in the Western media. The boycott is unacceptable for the oligarchs from sports and will bring big financial losses to the athletes, but they still invested heavily and financially and their health. Humanly, they can be understood. The white flag will mean humiliation for Kremlin politicians - they get it and they don’t put it in a penny. So it's a dead end.
    It is time to admit that in fact the whole sport of the highest achievements, without doping, has long been impossible. And does not bring any benefit to people. Throw a mountain of incriminating evidence on Western athletes and functionaries, on the IOC with WADA. Zero the results of the Olympic Games and prohibit professional sports to units. But nobody will do it. they’ll disappear, and the oligarchs will at least beat off something expended.
  31. Bossota
    Bossota 26 January 2018 20: 48
    +1
    Quote: Lev Bronsch
    Do not talk nonsense ... IOC is a public organization, very distant from the state and governments. Well, at least that's what they say: laughing

    Fresh tradition, but hard to believe. (From the comedy “Woe from Wit” (1824) by A. S. Griboedov (1795 — 1829). Words by Chatsky (acting 2, appearing 2):)
  32. orphan 63
    orphan 63 26 January 2018 20: 50
    +4

    Hint for fans --HPP -? !!!!


    And to be honest, it's disgusting to horror am And what to do with these MOCs and WADs? Not a single censored word comes to their mind.
  33. Alexander Ochirgoriaev
    Alexander Ochirgoriaev 26 January 2018 20: 55
    +9
    When will the great Russia cease to grovel in front of Western anti-Russian organizations ??? This deflection before the IOC will not add to Russia's authority at all. This is a no brainer! The requirement not to appear under one's own flag, a symbol of the state, is simply absurd! It is necessary to boycott through the politicized event! The stronger our bureaucrats from sports will dance to their accompaniment, the greater the pressure! Ignore OI and period! The reasoning that our athletes will lose years of training if they do not participate in fairy tale games for fools! If they are true patriots of their country, they will survive! Otherwise, it’s just betrayal and mercantilism!
    1. Larisa Byvsheva
      Larisa Byvsheva 26 January 2018 22: 28
      +3
      Where did you see the patriotic athletes ?? !!
  34. Natalia777
    Natalia777 26 January 2018 20: 56
    +7
    WADA “accidentally” destroyed all samples of American athletes over the past 26 years
    26 July 2016, 22: 29
    Suddenly it turned out that the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) lost all samples of athletes who played for the US team from 1990 to 2016. The agency explained that this was the result of a cleaning lady’s mistake, which accidentally dropped racks with samples of American athletes and all 30 thousand tubes were smashed to smithereens.
    The destruction of all doping samples by WADA American athletes reported the British agency BBC.
    “As a result of the careless actions of a cleaning company employee, the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) lost all samples of samples of American athletes who played for the US team since 1990,” the BBC reports.
    “This is terrible, - the American section of samples in our archive is completely destroyed. To date, there is not a single sample of samples taken from American athletes who have played for the US team since 1990, ”one of the leading members of the World Anti-Doping Agency, who wished to remain anonymous, told BBC correspondent Daniel Sandford.
    When asked what happened, a WADA official said that “one of the cleaning agency employees, while cleaning the American section, inadvertently touched the sample rack, after which he fell, dragging other shelves along the domino principle. As a result, more than 30000 tubes were broken, the rest are not identifiable, as they were stored in signed and numbered cells, and there was no information on the tubes themselves.
    Samples from 1990 to 2016 were irretrievably lost, since the archive was temporarily stored together with the latest data. Previously, the American archive of samples was removed from special refrigerators, in connection with their unscheduled repair, and placed on ordinary racks. The work should have taken no more than 1-2 days, after which the samples had to return to the place. "
    The BBC notes that the “falling shelving” incident occurred on the eve of a visit to WADA offices by a joint Austro-Russian delegation of world-famous microbiologists and biochemists who were to conduct a comparative analysis of the samples of Russian athletes with American samples and draw very authoritative conclusions. It is noteworthy that this delegation with great difficulty achieved permission for its mission, since, according to our reliable data, there were very, very insurmountable obstacles in its path and only their authority in the scientific world helped them get permission in MOK.
    Representatives of the WADA leadership said they had already terminated the contract with a cleaning agency, whose employee so “successfully” dropped the shelves with American analyzes. “We hope that the awkward cleaning lady has a great future, if not at WADA, then at USADA,” the BBC host says ironically.
    1. Lev Bronsch
      Lev Bronsch 26 January 2018 22: 27
      +3
      There is a very good principle - do not sit down to play with cheaters, you will lose all the time. As soon as we, as a country, stop playing cheating games such as the "Olympic movement" (to whom and why did it fall?), Like "pure athletes" (you tell me about 1000 official doping experts from the "Western" world) and other rubbish, so right away a good half of the globe respects us and you can develop your own rules and conditions. While we play by the rules of others, which constantly twist under us, we will always be the loser. This is clear and understandable. And the fairy tales by which WADA and USADA feed the rest of the world have long been not interesting, they are simply disgusting ...
  35. Lars971a
    Lars971a 26 January 2018 21: 05
    +6
    What I want to say. We are all high-ranking bosses, the media say that athletes put their whole lives on sports, wait for the Olympics all their lives, undermined their health, etc. and you can’t do without the Olympics. And the guys Alexander Prokhorenko, he also had plans, dreams of raising children, living ............ but he chose another better death, and caused fire on himself. The 6th company of paratroopers also had a choice, if the bandits had demanded that they survived, but they would have deliberately chosen death. And how many such examples can be cited. You can talk a lot. I won’t draw any conclusions myself .......... .................
    1. Lev Bronsch
      Lev Bronsch 26 January 2018 22: 30
      +3
      Yeah, and at the same time, the media somehow forget that in our particular situation these athletes lived and trained at the state expense. So let them find sponsors, private traders without state capital! I emphasize - not Gazprom, Russian Railways, Rosneft, and ... Namely, these private traders are turned by the beits about training, their whole lives, WADA and so on. crap. And we will buy popcorn and see this marvelous series laughing
  36. Natalia777
    Natalia777 26 January 2018 21: 05
    +3
    I think that athletes are doing the right thing, that they don’t give up and go to the Olympics in spite of the efforts of the USA and their pocket WADA. The whole WORLD sees the IOC SHAME and POLITICAL CORRUPTION in OLYMPIC SPORTS. I hope that such absolutely impudent and lawless behavior of the IOC and WADA will bring them BIG PROBLEMS as a result. I hope that the Olympic sport will be cleared of corruption.
    1. alexjk
      alexjk 26 January 2018 21: 31
      +8
      naive fool? laughing
    2. ds269
      ds269 26 January 2018 22: 11
      +4
      Mutko and the company also think so)))))
  37. ser.dimov2015
    ser.dimov2015 26 January 2018 21: 06
    12
    Since the president controls everything in our country, I believe that his guilt is obvious and lies in the fact that he cherishes his mediocre ministers such as Mutko he should have been removed after Vancouver Tyagachov was removed, and he cried out his place, I think in place of the Minister of Sports, there should be someone like Shoigu, I think Trutnev would do.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 26 January 2018 22: 10
      +5
      Shoigu would go everywhere. Real soldier. A real hard worker. But cloning has still not reached such heights as the Minister of Sports - Shoigu, the Minister of Education - Shoigu, the Minister of Defense - Shoigu. But I would like to.
    2. SergF123
      SergF123 27 January 2018 05: 38
      +5
      Do not touch the holy place - friends of Pu - untouchable matzo!
  38. Kent0001
    Kent0001 26 January 2018 21: 18
    +9
    Lately, Russia has been doing what it is told, and in many ways. Our authority in the world fell below the plinth, but KiselTV sings the opposite. Congratulations on your new reality, LORD!
  39. 82т11
    82т11 26 January 2018 21: 20
    +8
    Listen, does anyone know, we are 15 million dollars that the IOC demanded paid?
    And it turns out as in that phrase "Russians must pay and repent" ((
    1. Larisa Byvsheva
      Larisa Byvsheva 26 January 2018 22: 24
      +3
      I read that they paid ((
  40. andrei_saklakov
    andrei_saklakov 26 January 2018 21: 21
    +4
    Why endure such humiliation ?! Everything is clear. To declare the bikes to the games in connection with the biased assessment of the "purity of our athletes. And to arrange an alternative on the basis of Russia with the invitation of all interested, to give all our athletes the opportunity to show the results that they have been going for more than one year !!!
    .
    1. ds269
      ds269 26 January 2018 22: 14
      +5
      it would be nice, but through the efforts of our managers Russia did not have allies
    2. Larisa Byvsheva
      Larisa Byvsheva 26 January 2018 22: 23
      +2
      The Russian officials cannot announce a boycott, and they cannot let the athletes go; nobody just listens to them.
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  41. alexjk
    alexjk 26 January 2018 21: 29
    +1
    In fact, it’s enough to put YUU in North America at the opening of this oh Olympus ...
    1. Larisa Byvsheva
      Larisa Byvsheva 26 January 2018 22: 21
      +1
      I think it's too much
  42. Karabin
    Karabin 26 January 2018 21: 48
    +9
    Dropped predictably lower further.
    From the last:TASS, January 26th. All Russian athletes will have to sign a declaration suggesting excommunication from the 2018 Games in case of violation of the rules of conduct established by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) at the Olympics in Pyeongchang. This was reported by the IOC press service.

    The IOC has developed a declaration form for Russian athletes who will perform at the 2018 Games in the status of Olympic athlete from Russia (Olympic athlete from Russia). By signing the document, each invited Russian athlete will confirm that he never violated the anti-doping vaccine and did not serve a suspension for this; that he will honestly and fully abide by the rules of the World Anti-Doping Code and all IOC rules; that he received an individual invitation to the 2018 Games from the IOC; that he will not be allowed to the Games in case of violation of the above points and is ready to accept additional sanctions.
    The IOC will begin to send invitations to Russian athletes to participate in the Games on January 27.
    Another form of declaration has been developed for the remaining members of the Russian delegation. In it, in particular, each representative of the delegation will have to confirm that he was not accredited in any capacity at the 2014 Games in Sochi; that he did not assist athletes or others in breaking the anti-doping rules; that he did not train and did not provide medical support to athletes convicted of violating anti-doping rules by the Denis Oswald commission, etc.
    Athletes and other members of the Russian delegation must also confirm that they respect the decision of the IOC Executive Committee of December 5, which allowed them to participate in the 2018 Games, which will be held from February 9 to 25, under the Olympic flag.

    The whole story with the Olympics turned into a humiliation of Russia as a power. Big sport has long been not only business, but also politics. This is an objective reality, no matter what. The victory of an athlete flying the national flag has a certain weight and works for the prestige of the country. Awarding the winners (if they happen after the total non-invitation of the leaders) under the white flag will only emphasize the wretchedness of the position of the Russian Federation.
    To avoid all these humiliations, it was possible only in one case - an unambiguous boycott. This position should have been clearly voiced at the very beginning. And at the highest level. Instead, a slurred moo and hide and seek behind the backs of athletes. Decide for yourself, and I'm in the house. Now we have what we have, and the omitted athletes are members of various IOC commissions. Particularly cynical forms of the estate are yet to come.
    1. Larisa Byvsheva
      Larisa Byvsheva 26 January 2018 22: 19
      +1
      Declaration! And you can’t unsubscribe your apartment-cars to this mocha-chpok, no?
    2. Giants
      Giants 26 January 2018 22: 23
      11
      All the shame with the OI is entirely on the conscience of Putin, this, God forgive me, the genius of foreign policy. Since May 2014, this has been going on forever, all these curtsies, a step forward, two steps backward. If he is a political impotent, or observes the red lines drawn by partners, then can he go to rest?
    3. Lev Bronsch
      Lev Bronsch 26 January 2018 22: 38
      +5
      I add from the report of the Oswald Commission that the absence of traces of opening the test tubes in Sochi is not proof of the athlete’s cleanliness, because perhaps the FSB learned to open tubes without traces !!! This is exactly what it was formulated - perhaps I learned ... And why the FSB, and not the GRU of the General Staff?)) Even the old senile Maclaren did not reach such a degree of cynicism, he even scratched the tubes in good faith. And here, even the appearance of the presumption of innocence was lazy. The logical question is, why consist, collaborate, and even communicate with such people / organizations ?? As for me, it makes no sense, the further from these, the more we will be.
      By the way, read the report of McLaren and Oswald, they are in tyrnet. I give the word - be stunned! Fiction with noir detection in one bottle! True nifiga does not fight with facts, but this is - all the worse for facts! wink
  43. noodles
    noodles 26 January 2018 21: 48
    +3
    It’s hard to write, all the more calmly analyze the lawlessness that the IOC has committed against our Olympians! But anger and resentment are bad helpers! There are more questions to the IOC and to our sports organizers and managers - more than answers! Their actions, but rather incomprehensible steps, indicate that the public is simply FOUND! If the IOC is a public organization, then why do AUTHORITIES contact it? It's time to figure it out! If the Olympics is a business, then we need to conduct as businessmen and play by the rules
    business! If this is a sporting event for representatives of countries — and what are the IOC bans on the FLAG-GERBU? And the most important thing is that if they want to put Russia into the ANGLE for political reasons and hide behind the Olympic Charter, then our response methods should be POLITICAL! So far, one thing is helplessness and legal the illiteracy of the Russian sports leadership allowed the IOC to humiliate our country — twist the ropes and mock the elementary rights of athletes — act like slaves; IOC — I want to SELL — I want to LEARN from sports life! I do not want to end the comments with an appeal - GIVE UP AGAINST THE CROWBAR NO RECEPTION! Yes, you need to wipe the spit from the IOC-
    clench your teeth and BEAT AS FRONT before VICTORY !!!!
  44. Nemesis
    Nemesis 26 January 2018 21: 56
    +8
    The actions of the IOC were predictable. Russia should not go to this Olympiad, especially since the country's financial condition is far from ideal ... The whole problem is that those whose desire to steer noticeably lags behind their abilities have got into leading Russia ...
  45. Serge72
    Serge72 26 January 2018 22: 02
    22
    Send them to the race
    Kremlin centenarians
  46. Graz
    Graz 26 January 2018 22: 08
    +5
    everything is just a matter of ethnic hatred, the defendants from the IOC and WADA as soon as they fly over the territory of our country, land themselves by raising fighters at our airport and are suing with a real sentence
    1. SergF123
      SergF123 27 January 2018 05: 35
      +2
      Absolutely agree!
    2. SergF123
      SergF123 27 January 2018 05: 36
      +3
      Just do not need this thief in power!
  47. Larisa Byvsheva
    Larisa Byvsheva 26 January 2018 22: 15
    +2
    Yeah, they’ll go to the “Olympiad”, as the great contemporary thinker Vitalik Klitschko said, not only everything.
  48. Dock
    Dock 26 January 2018 23: 12
    +8
    "OLYMPIAD 2018

    Until we lost what is holy
    In the name of those who have not come from war,
    Don't Sell Homeland Guys!

    That medal of such a price is not worth it!

    Everything in the world is changeable and perishable.
    The time has come for the “five rings”.
    The ideals of Coubertin are forgotten.
    The Golden Taurus rules everywhere.

    Like a booth, on a cheap stage,
    Where the devil rules in the flesh
    You are brazenly lowered to your knees
    And they demand to crawl in humiliation!

    For them, both lies and truth - all are one!
    And the game will be against the rules.
    You believe in a fair fight
    And at the table, on the contrary - a cheater!

    They will greet you at the entrance,
    Smeared with black mud - for the eyes.
    They have a speckled deck in their hands
    And in each sleeve - two aces.

    Embittered, wretched and stooped,
    Europe is all chronically ill:
    On behalf of "Russia" reduces cheekbones,
    And rabid saliva drips.

    Once again, the "chosen race" wins,
    Opponents squeezed in a vice.
    And pieces of live meat are jumping ...
    Stuffed with dope pieces.

    The "elect" have the Right, there is no Prohibition.
    Did not work out? You can repeat it!
    And as an example - the relay!
    Everything as usual! What is there to talk about?

    You can go. Your right.
    Decide for yourself - to be or not to be.
    But know that today is the Honor of the Power
    It’s easier for you to drop than to protect.

    And you have already created the conditions,
    To nullify your hard work.
    And if you get the medals,
    Not the fact that they will not be taken away later.

    Until we lost what is holy
    In the name of those who have not come from war,

    Don't Sell Homeland Guys!
    That medal of such a price is not worth it!

    Sports combat always calls to the screen.
    And glory to those who won the battle!
    But I won’t watch these games.
    Here they humiliate my Motherland ”
    Konstantin Frolov-Crimean
    1. Sapiens 63
      Sapiens 63 27 January 2018 00: 00
      +7
      It is very pleasing that most understand that the leadership of the country is to blame for the national disgrace of the country and personally who is the season, still glad that the voices of those who disagree with the “party line” are recorded by agents of the State Department and liberals, or they say “it’s easy to criticize, but you what he personally did ”, etc. Although they may have a working day from 9 to 18. It is pleasant that there are sensible people whose brains are not washed by Kiselyov’s
  49. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 27 January 2018 00: 11
    +3
    Quote: Mih1974
    On the radio’s greetings, a cool idea was voiced - and let our athletes sew on their form on the back and chest “yellow stars of David”. As at one time in Nazi Germany they sewed Jews. And even it will be very interesting to see how they will be "torn off" or will be prohibited.

    But the thought is quite ... Only on the chest there is an OST patch, and on the back there is a target or a yellow circle (I think you can find photos and sizes in the archives), and the shape is striped (the strip is naturally vertical)
    It is sometimes necessary to remind ...
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