The war is not with doping, but with Russia

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The war is not with doping, but with Russia


The latest events no longer hint, but openly confirm that we are not talking about any fight against doping. The point is the desire to humiliate Russia at any cost.



Of all the possible options for Russia that could have been supposed, the worst was realized.

Yes, our sports (and state) authorities lost, and lost with a crash.

The flag and the anthem will not be paid for the TV rights, but most of the team is not allowed to play, and the Russian Olympic Committee is not only removed, so 15 million dollars still remained.

But the refusal at the very last moment of Sergey Ustyugov, Anton Shipulin, Viktor Ana without announcing any reasons is simply a political mockery.

And what our “friend” Thomas Bach said, the best confirmation of my words:

"The commission did not act as a judge. It carefully checked every case, and as a result Russia can be sure that only pure athletes will get to the games, and there will be no unpleasant surprises after the competition. Russia should appreciate this possibility."

Did you understand? We should appreciate this attitude and lick the hand that hits us on the tinsel. Otherwise it could be worse. Full rejection. Or kick your feet.

Valerie Fournayron, author of the suspensions and chairman of the independent body of the IOC:

“Non-inclusion in the list of those invited to the games does not necessarily mean that the athlete was caught using doping. This should not question their purity. ”

Is everyone clear? The reason for the suspension is not doping. The reason is that athletes:

a) Russians;
b) can win.

Point. Fat such.

The most interesting thing is that in the rest of the world, everyone already understands that they are becoming participants in an offensive farce. And, by the way, as a hint for the future: you don't need a lot of independence, but it will be like with Russians.

But even if such an up-to-the-minute Russophobe, like Fourcade, says that there was a bust of Shipulin in full, it means that somewhere something from the shelf has fallen and broken.

And what about us?

And we also have fun.

Habitual regrets from the mouth of Peskov no longer want to give a place in the line. Peskov's statements are like a dash. Same everywhere.

The chairman of the State Duma Committee on Physical Education, Sport, Tourism and Youth Affairs, Mikhail Degtyarev, was one of the first representatives of the government (even if it was the legislature) who voiced that something had to be done with the situation.

“If there is no explanation, then perhaps the athletes will need to reconsider the decision regarding their participation in the Olympic Games in Pkhenchkhane.”

Indeed, I agree with Degtyarev that, on the one hand, they demonstrate simply marvelous abilities for negotiations and convictions, as a result of which the teams of North and South Korea will perform the same and under one flag.

This is great, this is welcome. But why such a one-sided position in relation to Russia?

The whole thing, apparently, is that the very leader of North Korea at the right time showed something that makes him treat him with respect. At a minimum - a rocket, which, in the event of the non-admission of its athletes to the games or the boycott of North Korea’s games, is quite realistic to launch into the Phenchhang region.

And - diplomatic moves, conversations, negotiations. About the result I have already said. United Korean teams at the games.

And we have?

Dmitry Peskov, Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation:

"We saw these depressing news in media reports. Indeed, we deeply regret in this regard if such decisions are really made. We hope that, one way or another, the situation will become clearer, because, of course, in a limited mode, but still contacts with the IOC are made. We hope that in the course of these contacts it will be possible to clarify the situation with the famous athletes mentioned by us. "

But I thought it was a sinful thing that Zhukov or Mutko report such things ... Although, really, this is such a trifle, just another spit in the Russian political face, it’s really not worth distracting such busy people. The President will not break off, the Internet will go down.

Well, it is clear from here that at this rate, of course, it will be possible to clarify the situation. Year to 2022-th, in time for the next winter Olympic disgrace. Indeed, it is regrettable.

But what is more regrettable is that all those who allowed and contributed to this disgrace on the Russian side are still in their places. For their (I think, quite good) salaries.

This is something to regret ...

And having regretted, to begin a cruel but fair purge in the ranks of Olympic and sports officials. At all levels. In preparation for the next games, to which we may be admitted. Or will not allow that, most likely, and will be.

Well, already tired and obsolete words are bored about the fact that "our answer will be tough and symmetrical."

I want all the same not words, but deeds.
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  1. +25
    26 January 2018 06: 31
    Immediately it was necessary to take a tough stance on the issue of doping to go into complete rejection, and not now chew snot and regret it. The IOC did its job expertly trampled Russia into shit and humiliated now they are sitting satisfied hands are rubbing, the owners' money worked for five plus.
    1. +7
      26 January 2018 07: 10
      I support the author! +
      But in principle, all this was to be expected.
      1. +30
        26 January 2018 09: 03
        The fact of the matter is that all this was expected! What, no one could have imagined such a turnaround? I’m not a prophet, but I foresaw him, therefore I wrote everywhere that we shouldn’t do it there, but not all athletes, all officials unanimously, like parrots insisted that we should go and win, “Russia is in our heart”, and what is the result? As a result, c) I (opera Russia, but not in the heart! What, I could see how the matter would end, but not for the athletes and officials? I somehow can’t believe it. Then why did they go there, knowing in advance what was waiting for them, or really did you know?
        In general, these (athletes from Russia), and more precisely, venal jackals, namely I now consider them and will be considered, were rewarded. He betrayed the country, betrayed the people, capitulated under a white rag, well, get what you deserve in full. The Vlasovites were hanged for such a thing, no one will hang these, of course, but I personally won’t personally regret that they wiped off their feet and smeared shit in shit.
        It’s just that if they still don’t refuse to participate in the games, this shame will continue until the team leaves three cripples who will occupy the last places, and then say, “Like, look, Russia can’t do anything without doping.” At the same time, doping will be eaten by buckets, asthmatic skiers, and other athletes with all kinds of "syndromes" ...
        1. +5
          26 January 2018 10: 26
          Spartanez300 Today, 08:31
          Immediately it was necessary to take a tough stance on the doping issue to go into complete rejection

          I agree completely! Why, in general, did some of our officials say in public speeches that there really were any mistakes and wrongful assumptions, and they had to look for and fight this inside, etc. etc ... There was nothing for us and moreover no evidence was presented, but just the chatter of various villains and some indirect tricks (I will not even call them evidence) - like scratches on test tubes
        2. +15
          26 January 2018 11: 16
          Dear Varyag_0711. I share your thoughts. I also thought that we should abandon the games and conduct our open games in Sochi for our athletes. But most importantly, I am surprised by the slurred position of GDP on this issue. Where are the actions confirming his famous “yard” phrase: If you feel, you can’t avoid fights, be the first to beat.
          P.S. You must respect yourself. If you do not respect yourself, others will never respect.
          1. +13
            26 January 2018 11: 23
            AA17 Today, 11:16 ↑
            But most importantly, I am surprised by the slurred position of GDP on this issue. Where are the actions confirming his famous "yard" phrase: If you feel a fight, do not avoid, be the first to beat.
            P.S. You must respect yourself. If you do not respect yourself, others will never respect.
            I agree completely and completely. And it was necessary to beat even after the games in Rio. I don’t know, maybe he didn’t have it before, maybe something else. Most likely, the hope of holding the World Cup 2018 is still cherished, all the same, the dough didn’t get dumped there. But it seems to me in vain, all flirting with the West is all from the evil one. The only thing I can say is that Putin is a master of intrigue and he does not act right away. As they say revenge is a dish that must be served cold. Perhaps some kind of curse he secretly cooks them. We will see.
            1. +11
              26 January 2018 11: 49
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              The only thing I can say is that Putin is a master of intrigue and he does not act right away. As they say revenge is a dish that must be served cold. Perhaps some kind of curse he secretly cooks them. We will see.

              I also hope so. Most likely, Putin is letting the West get bogged down in this matter, not with a claw. Let all sorts of Vada and Moki show to the end their rotten nature. The easier it will be for Putin to dunk them into his own guamno. I am sure that we will be shaken up by these organizations, and instead of them truly independent ones will be created, where sport will be at the head, not politics! Then the west will take in a full spoon what we are experiencing today. Let's see what places their "sick" athletes will occupy when they are deprived of doping. Well, it cannot be that our president leaves all this shame unanswered! We just need to be patient.
            2. +5
              28 January 2018 09: 38
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              The only thing I can say is that Putin is a master of intrigue and he does not act right away. As they say revenge is a dish that must be served cold.

              If real revenge is a dish served cold, then the revenge of the GDP is a dish that has already been weathered, in some places dried up, and in some places it is already rotten. In his "summer should not dare to have his own judgment", different from the opinion of the people. If in doubt, hold a referendum ...
            3. 0
              29 January 2018 21: 15
              I hope for intrigue, oochen. And the ACTION of the Russian Federation in relations with the West and not excuses humiliating.
          2. +9
            26 January 2018 18: 49
            Quote: AA17
            P.S. You must respect yourself. If you do not respect yourself, others will never respect.

            The priest of the Russian Orthodox Church, father Methodius, addressed a poem to the Ural Olympians, who, after all the humiliation, decided to participate in the 2018 Games in Pyeongchang.
            Until we lost what is holy
            In the name of those who have not come from war,
            Don't Sell Homeland Guys! That medal of such a price is not worth it!

            Everything in the world is changeable and perishable.
            The time has come and the "five rings".
            The ideals of Coubertin are forgotten.
            The golden calf rules everywhere.

            Like a booth, on a cheap stage,
            Where the devil rules in the flesh
            You are brazenly lowered to your knees
            And they demand to crawl in humiliation!

            For them, both lies and truth - all are one!
            And the game will be against the rules.
            You believe in a fair fight
            And at the opposite table - a cheater!

            They will greet you at the entrance,
            Smeared with black mud - for the eyes.
            They have a speckled deck in their hands
            And in each sleeve - two aces.

            Embittered, wretched and stooped,
            Europe is all chronically ill:
            Russia cheekbones on behalf of
            And rabid saliva drips.

            The "chosen race" wins again
            Opponents squeezed in a vice.
            And pieces of live meat are jumping ...
            Stuffed with dope pieces.

            The "elect" have the Right, there is no Prohibition.
            Did not work out? You can repeat it!
            And as an example - the relay!
            Everything as usual! What is there to talk about?

            You can go. Your right.
            Decide for yourself - to be or not to be.
            But know that today is the Honor of the Power
            It’s easier for you to drop than to protect.

            And you have already created the conditions,
            To nullify your hard work.
            And if you get the medals,
            Not the fact that they will not be taken away later.

            Until we lost what is holy
            In the name of those who have not come from war,

            Don't Sell Homeland Guys!
            That medal of such a price is not worth it!

            Sports fight always calls to the screen.
            And glory to those who won the battle!
            But I won’t watch these Games.
            Here they humiliate my homeland!
            1. +2
              28 January 2018 09: 40
              Quote: kapitan92
              Here they humiliate my homeland!

              Here's a bit simpler:
              1. 0
                29 January 2018 21: 20
                It is said beautifully correctly and in the subject.
          3. +2
            26 January 2018 23: 37
            Quote: AA17
            But most importantly, I am surprised by the slurred position of GDP on this issue.

            This is the main question, the whole country is against the Olympics, which will not have our anthem and flag and our best athletes, but our guarantor somehow does not want to guarantee, but stubbornly ignores the position of his voters.
        3. +10
          26 January 2018 11: 45
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          It’s just that if they still don’t refuse to participate in the games, this shame will continue until the team leaves three cripples who will occupy the last places, and then say, “Like, look, Russia can’t do anything without doping.” At the same time, doping will be eaten by buckets, asthmatic skiers, and other athletes with all kinds of "syndromes" ...

          I agree with you. The apogee of events is yet to come. Modern OI is primarily a demonstration of the flag, not a sporting achievement. Our country was deprived of the flag, anthem.
          We discussed a similar topic a couple of months ago. I expressed my opinion: I am against the participation of the Russian team in the Olympic Games.
          I recall a quote from an interview with Konstantin Zyryanov after the qualifying match for Euro 2008 with Israel“:” I told you in Luzhniki when everyone fell into euphoria after defeating England: “We would not crap in the two remaining matches.” That crap ... "
          Something similar happened now! It remains to convey fiery Olympic greetings to all the Russian "muddy". hi
        4. +1
          26 January 2018 17: 52
          I agree with you .... How can Sharapova and others like her be considered Russian athletes ... Yes, in no way ...
    2. +2
      26 January 2018 08: 00
      Or maybe one of our investors is afraid to fly with a profit from the summer championship? So they sniff into two holes, so that the championship, if it’s not okay, would not be taken away
    3. +1
      26 January 2018 08: 46
      The IOC did what most Russians wanted. We didn’t want to boycott the games at the state level, we will do it through the IOC.
    4. +4
      26 January 2018 09: 03
      Three words:
      football
      Chm
      payback

      There are those who need clarification why humiliation and silence will not end on him?
      1. +7
        26 January 2018 09: 05
        Quote: g1washntwn
        Three words:

        Zenit Arena, cormorants)
      2. +3
        26 January 2018 10: 50
        Quote: g1washntwn
        payback

        What are you talking about? Already considered that the World Cup will pay off by 0,2%. I was not mistaken - 0,2%!
        Why so sickly? One Zenith Arena is worth ... And in the literal and figurative sense. Visa-free travel for fans between cities ...
        1. +1
          26 January 2018 12: 04
          Quote: BecmepH
          Already considered that the World Cup will pay off by 0,2%

          Sit down, two. Count on the scenario "now boycott - removal from the World Cup later"
          1. 0
            26 January 2018 17: 30
            Quote: g1washntwn
            Sit down, two. Count on the scenario "now boycott - suspension from the World Cup then

            Ukrainians are already demanding a boycott of the 2018 World Cup in football.
    5. +3
      26 January 2018 12: 31
      And how to respond harshly? The grandmothers of our Glavnbkov are all in the west. If anything they quickly shut off oxygen, and they will be naked ... Therefore, they try to be more accommodating, become and move apart ... The national traitors this pose is the most favorite.
  2. +12
    26 January 2018 06: 33
    our sports (and state) authorities lost, and lost miserably
    I completely agree with the author. Toothlessness and the desire to serve on our bent sports officials does not lend itself to any logic. It was correctly written in one of the media that officials are ready to spit on the country for the sake of a free lunch at the Russian House at the Olympics.
    Russia should appreciate this opportunity
    Cynicism for such a wording is too soft a word.
    1. +9
      26 January 2018 08: 53
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Toothlessness and the desire to serve on bent our sports officials defies any logic

      After all these insolent and cynical slaps in the face of our sport, the humility and meekness of the Russian bureaucrats is really incomprehensible. Unless to allow two things.
      First, can our sanctions even benefit them? Like, what if a failure happens in Korea, like in Vancouver, and then again, and excuse - so bad the West is plotting our tricks, so the results are so bad! It turns out that our leaders will not be held accountable for poor results. The straw was laid in advance.

      The second - our sport is actually mired in doping. And mired much more than others (well, or not able to hide it as much as others).
      1. +8
        26 January 2018 09: 20
        rkkasa 81 Today, 08:53 ↑
        The second - our sport is actually mired in doping. And mired much more than others (well, or not able to hide it as much as others).
        The third reason, who are you with us? Sent Cossack, under the red flag?
        Is it like we're dope mired? We don’t know how to hide. I’m too lazy to surf the Internet and upload you photojacks to Simone Biles and Aliya Mustafina, or the Williams and Sharapova sisters, you want to find yourself. What do you call we don’t know how to hide doping? laughing
        So who are you, after your comment, and whose mill are you pouring water on, and Agent Fuchs?
        1. +6
          26 January 2018 10: 02
          Calm down, don't be so nervous.

          Firstly, my assumption that our sport is mired in doping is only one of the assumptions. I also expressed my opinion about the bureaucrats.
          Secondly, I immediately made a reservation - "well, or not able to hide it like others." . To be able to hide doping, this is not the ability to stupidly upload photojacks from the Internet. This is different.
          Thirdly, if you are so smart, then explain to us why our leadership behaves so toothless?
          Threat Have you ever seen women who engage in heavy physical labor? I have seen. And many of them have a figure, muscle, worse than that of the sisters Williams and Simone Biles. And I’m sure they didn’t use any doping. By the way, at the same time, among women engaged in heavy physical labor, there are pretty ordinary-looking (in terms of muscles) women who, according to rumors and men, were working for ... lol Women if anything with a boiler room, and men - miners, who were sometimes sent there.
          That is - a figure, muscles, and all this brutality, this is not proof of the use of doping.
          1. +12
            26 January 2018 10: 22
            rkkasa 81 Today, 10:02 ↑ New
            Calm down, don't be so nervous.
            Firstly, "baby", judging by your nickname, you’ll be eight years older. Secondly, I’m not nervous, you take too much honor on yourself.
            Thirdly, if you are so smart, then explain to us why our leadership behaves so toothless?
            To this question I myself am interested to get a clear answer.
            And many of them have a figure, muscle, worse than that of the sisters Williams and Simone Biles. And I’m sure they didn’t use any doping.
            Well, you betrayed yourself with your head.
            Stirlitz walked through the streets of Berlin, but something elusive betrayed him as a Russian spy. Either the parachute dragged along, or the Budyonnovka famously shifted to one side ... laughing laughing laughing
            With me, a "young lady" goes to the gym, whose muscles are more than that of many men, including me. Only here is the dope she eats worse than any pitching. Why she doesn’t need it, I don’t understand, but ask something dumb.
            That is - a figure, muscles, and all this brutality, this is not proof of the use of doping.
            Well, yes, well, yes, how can ... These tales will be told to your children at night by "baby." fool tongue
            1. 0
              26 January 2018 10: 32
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              Well, you gave yourself away

              ?
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              Stirlitz walked through the streets of Berlin, but something elusive betrayed him as a Russian spy. Either the parachute dragged along, or the Budyonnovka famously shifted to one side ..

              ??
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              With me, a "young lady" goes to the gym, whose muscles are more than that of many men, including me. Only here is dope she eats worse than any pitching

              ??
              request
          2. +2
            26 January 2018 13: 45
            Quote: rkkasa 81
            Threat Have you ever seen women who engage in heavy physical labor? I have seen. And many of them have a figure, muscle, worse than that of the sisters Williams and Simone Biles. And I’m sure they didn’t use any doping. By the way, at the same time, among women engaged in heavy physical labor, there are pretty ordinary-looking (in terms of muscles) women who, according to rumors and men, were working for ... lol Women if anything with a boiler room, and men - miners, who were sometimes sent there.
            That is - a figure, muscles, and all this brutality, this is not proof of the use of doping.

            In fact yes! But not in all cases ...
            With severe physical exertion, and even if there is a constitutional predisposition, yes - a woman will begin to build muscle. But - the "bodybuilding" "dry" relief will never be! And such changes in the body will entail hormonal changes - in the direction of enhancing androgens and suppressing estrogens; such "ladies" and antennae make their way ... not to mention other, unpleasant (for men trying to "pamper" them) changes in the body.
            But this is just a 15-20 year process!
            1. +1
              26 January 2018 15: 10
              Quote: CONTROL
              With severe physical exertion, and even if there is a constitutional predisposition, yes - a woman will begin to build muscle. But - the "bodybuilding" "dry" relief will never be!

              Dear Varyag_0711 gave an example of the Williams sisters, but they are not very “dry”. And among women with serious physical exertion, such muscle figures as sisters are quite common, despite the lack of doping. Unless, of course, doping is good fat shmat laughing
              Once again - a figure in itself is not a basis for doping charges.
          3. +2
            26 January 2018 15: 59
            Is doping permission proof?
            I remind you that the Willis brothers received such permission
            1. +2
              26 January 2018 17: 33
              Not to mention the broken doping tests of all American athletes at once.
          4. +1
            26 January 2018 23: 41
            Quote: rkkasa 81
            Baby calm down

            Tambov wolf you baby
        2. +3
          26 January 2018 10: 14
          Our mired in doping. GDP itself, by the way, has confirmed this. And to build facts on otfotoshoplennyh pictures - somehow frivolously. It was just a task - to blame ours, that’s it, they’ve knocked down, especially since there was something to cling to at the beginning, and then, seeing zero opposition from our officials, they started blaming everything. It is also possible for the Americans to disqualify most of the team, but who will touch them.
          1. +2
            26 January 2018 10: 57
            Quote: Dangerous
            It was just a task - to bring down our people, that’s what they’re knocked over, especially since there was something to cling to at the beginning

            For scratches? Funny you ...
            1. +1
              26 January 2018 16: 17
              Are you sorry for our president? Better to consider before writing about scratches
              1. +1
                26 January 2018 20: 21
                Quote: Dangerous
                Are you sorry for our president? Better to consider before writing about scratches

                You yourself turn on the brain, and then other high-tech.
                The comrade writes that, supposedly, there was an occasion. I laughed about the scratches. And here you are apologized. Here is the fact that he apologized and gave a signal to further lower Russia.
                Better to consider before
                President
                write
    2. +5
      26 January 2018 11: 57
      The novel in the article wrote everything absolutely correctly. The country spat in the face - and? Concerns and babbling about a tough and symmetrical answer. And anyway - to go to perform at any cost? But what if athletes are offered to give up Russian citizenship altogether or to crawl on the lap of the Games?
      And the astonishment of the shortsightedness of the country's leadership. Such humiliating actions before the election?
    3. +1
      28 January 2018 09: 56
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Cynicism for such a wording is too soft a word.

      You're right. This is not cynicism. It reminds:
  3. +9
    26 January 2018 06: 36
    And what, just got it ??? A completely planned operation, under the guise of a fight against doping ...
  4. +6
    26 January 2018 06: 51
    I’ll swoop - immediately after the type of Olympiad, mass changes in the air and a veiled apology will begin, but the train left. And they will say to reproaches - we apologized.
    I would demand a complete review of the last 2-3 olympiads regarding the legal use of doping by Western "pure" athletes under the guise of therapeutic exceptions. As a payment for your sins. And then the skiers are all asthmatics, gymnasts too suffer from a lack of attention, etc. wassat
    But .... Russia will once again wipe snot and mumble something about regret and sympathy request
    1. +8
      26 January 2018 07: 15
      But .... Russia will once again wipe snot and mumble something about regrets and sympathy request

      Not Russia! And the one who speaks on behalf of Russia!
    2. +3
      26 January 2018 09: 10
      If functionaries will keep their tongue in a known place, there will be no apology. Apologies and excuses are for those who did not recognize defeat, and for the losers, apologies are a great honor. You might think, for Yugoslavia, Gaddafi and the fact that he turned up their IS they repent.
    3. +2
      28 January 2018 10: 01
      Quote: Rurikovich
      I would require a complete review of the last 2-3 olympiads

      To demand something, you need to get up from your knees, fill up a couple of people, maybe knock down some plane that is not on that territory, deliver a missile and bomb strike on ISIS (even if you have to admit it is a mistake after that. ready, but are those ready to do so who robbed and robbed him a quarter of a century and promise him paradises for humiliation and patience?
  5. +7
    26 January 2018 06: 52
    There will be no flag and anthem,

    The flag was allowed, but with the caveat that they would look to see if it “smelled” of politics. Although all these MOKovtsy and VADovtsy are in such a political, brown color with a foul odor, that there’s nowhere else to go. EXIT ALL IT IS NECESSARY, EXIT !!! angry
  6. 0
    26 January 2018 06: 53
    And here are the officials !? You might think something could be done! Yes, their bleating looked shameful, but this is a payment for the Crimea!
    1. +6
      26 January 2018 09: 06
      This is a payment for our existence, and we have communism, Crimea, or cowards of the wrong color — nothing to do with it.
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    2. +3
      26 January 2018 07: 59
      I consider it incorrect to use the VO resource for agitation !!!
      1. +3
        26 January 2018 09: 04
        I consider it incorrect to use the VO resource for agitation !!!
        We all, to one degree or another, campaign for our own. From the first day I campaign, for what is indicated in my profile: Order! Justice! Traditions!
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    4. +12
      26 January 2018 09: 13
      Foreman Today, 06:53 AM New
      EVERYONE VOTES FOR THE BREAST !!!
      That’s just a “schaz” overclocking just take a low start. Zadolbali with his Grudinin. Of course, Putin, in the light of affairs with the Olympics, rewarding Alekseeva and a few more schools, increased the rating, but not so much as to lose to an incomprehensible chipushila put forward by the type "from the people." Well, how does a “popular half-oligarch” want to become a real oligarch in power. Nu-nu, blessed is he who believes in the infallible Grudinin. I personally do not need such a president.
  8. +3
    26 January 2018 07: 20
    The war with the IOC is a consequence ... and the reason for these events is not the professionalism of our officials ... We invite foreign coaches ... we need to invite foreign sports managers ...
    1. 0
      30 January 2018 03: 15
      There were certainly foreigners in our history who can be remembered with respect and pride. But this time, alas, has passed. But now, is it really impossible to find worthy people among compatriots? If, in due time, Alexander Karelin had been appointed instead of Mutko (mine surname speaks for himself), the situation could have been completely different.
  9. +9
    26 January 2018 07: 34
    This has never happened before, and here again, the unforgettable words of Chernomyrdin. Was it really not clear that a dirty, frantic and impudent in scope and cynically deceitful, essentially war in sport began against Russia when they removed our athletes from the Brazil Olympics. I'm not talking about transcendent villainy in relation to our Paralympics. Selling and cowardly cattle in the leadership of the ROC and the Ministry of Sports did not knock finger to finger to defend the honor of our country and athletes.
    1. +4
      26 January 2018 10: 53
      But interestingly, who appointed these so-called cattle in the OCD? Really from the State Department brought scum? And then how to read, so strange things happen in our country ...?
  10. +9
    26 January 2018 07: 48
    In the vastness of the network I found the following phrase: When Victor Ann ran for South Korea there was no dope, as soon as he started running for Russia, doping appeared. Conclusion - doping is the citizenship of Russia.
    1. +1
      26 January 2018 08: 14
      Well, we have a special air, some water with anabolic steroids wassat
  11. +17
    26 January 2018 07: 50
    I repeat again:
    The Strugatsky brothers once wrote well: The thing is to learn how to dry. They spit in your face, and you wipe yourself. At first I wiped myself with shame, then with bewilderment, and there, you look, you will begin to wipe yourself with dignity and even get pleasure from this process.
  12. +7
    26 January 2018 07: 54
    I wrote more than once, I’ll repeat it again .. So the great powers do not behave .. From the beginning we deny doping, then oh, excuse me ... School of ballroom dancing ... This is the school of Solomon Plyar, School of ballroom dancing, they tell you. Two steps to the left, two steps to the right, Step forward and two back.
  13. +4
    26 January 2018 08: 00
    And what about us?

    And we also have fun.

    Really funny. This was followed by a comforting statement by the Minister of Sports of the Russian Federation P. Kolobkov that Russia will organize international tournaments for its athletes who did not attend the Pyeongchang Winter Olympics. "There can only be one Olympics. There will be tournaments for those who are not will go, we will invite foreigners to these competitions, "the official said. What a joy ...
    1. +1
      26 January 2018 10: 33
      Of course joy - grandmothers will saw, but less, but sawed
  14. +4
    26 January 2018 08: 03
    Quote: moskowit
    And what, just got it ??? A completely planned operation, under the guise of anti-doping.

    --------------------------------------------
    Why was it claimed that there was a “state doping program”? In order to defame the country and then indiscriminately ban athletes. But our bureaucrats did not discern such a simple-minded naive move, and even ignored it, that it was "propaganda and insinuations." I personally can do without sports and Eurovision, all the same, these pseudo passions are of little interest to me. But the people, as you know, require "bread and circuses." With bread, so far so good, thank God. They wanted to scare us with the lack of parmesan and brie, but it turns out the opposite, they just pushed us. But with the state symbols something needs to be done by our "elite".
  15. +9
    26 January 2018 08: 07
    Everything that the IOC now requires of us is not the final. I suppose that further, under the pressure of the Anglo-Saxons, the requirements will be toughened, and humiliation will increase. And rightly so, because there is no resistance at all, the client agrees with everything and there is no reason to stand on ceremony, all the trump cards are on their hands. All our requests and regrets are a conversation about nothing. And the example of FIFA makes you think about a lot. On the one hand, by drowning one’s conscience one can get huge sponsorship money and honor, and on the other, lose this money and run around the world from “American justice”. The choice is clear and no one will agree. Just no reason. In this perspective, our inaction regarding alternative options is not clear. We are literally kicked out of the Olympic movement and forced to create something new, but we push back and try not to notice that humiliations are growing and they don’t see the end. I wonder what they will make us do at the next Olympics.
    1. +5
      26 January 2018 10: 35
      and what will make us do at the next Olympics?
      ---------------------
      bring shells to other teams, rub their skis and sharpen skates
      1. +1
        26 January 2018 11: 11
        Well, for now, the grandmothers of the main patriots in foreign accounts will go to that, in principle. And yet another regret from Mr. Peskov will not surprise us much. Well, who pays any attention to especially violent patriots on the Internet pages?
  16. +11
    26 January 2018 08: 14
    Dear friends, who had previously read articles on this event, had no doubt that it would come out ... The question is different - how low will Russian officials fall in their “yieldingness” to the IOC? And I think that they will still pay on time contributions to the IOC, for which they will pay the same discrimination of Russia ...
    1. +9
      26 January 2018 08: 42
      Quote: Ded Talash
      The question is different - how low will Russian officials fall in their “pliability” to the IOC?

      The degree of "compliance" will be determined by SamKiKto, and her Peskova's mustache will be voiced.
    2. +5
      26 January 2018 10: 16
      Quote: Ded Talash
      how low will Russian officials fall in their “compliance” with the IOC?

      I wrote below that the matter is not only in officials, it is in the athletes themselves! In the event of a boycott and the Russian Federation withdrawing from the IOC, 80 percent will be scattered, we will be left without professional sports! Athletes are not patriots, but they show a flag, but they fight for themselves, under what flag they do not care. I say this because I personally know professionals. There is such a weight lifter, Ivan D., was the chairman of the kettlebell lifting federation in one of our regions, was suspended after in 2014, at the height of the Maidan region and the start of sanctions, he went to the USA to participate in events, was not recommended to him, was asked to wait a bit, but money and fame pulled over the hill, and he for a second, MAYOR AF RF! He does not care about the state, they do not care about everything ...
      1. +3
        26 January 2018 11: 07
        Quote: raw174
        In the event of a boycott and the Russian Federation withdrawing from the IOC, 80 percent will be scattered, we will be left without professional sports!

        And what? We’ll start to develop children's sports. May be...
        1. 0
          26 January 2018 12: 16
          Quote: BecmepH
          And what? We’ll start to develop children's sports. May be...

          Yes, nothing ... it’s just not possible to develop children’s without an adult! Children need idols and heroes.
          1. 0
            26 January 2018 14: 27
            Quote: raw174
            Quote: BecmepH
            And what? We’ll start to develop children's sports. May be...

            Yes, nothing ... it’s just not possible to develop children’s without an adult! Children need idols and heroes.

            Idols? That's right. Only after all, they become idols before the Olympics. And at OI idols confirm their title. Or you can take mediocrity, but at the Olympic Games, he will tear everyone up and become an idol?
            In the end, not all the same rests on the OI. How many sports are away from the Olympic Games and nothing!
            There are also idols. Right?
            1. 0
              26 January 2018 14: 51
              Quote: BecmepH
              In the end, not all the same rests on the OI.

              The Olympics is the goal of life for all athletes in Olympic sports.
              Quote: BecmepH
              There are also idols. Right?

              Yes, but these species are less popular, mass numbers there are much less.
              Undoubtedly, adult sports is needed, even if you kick today, new ones will not get better, because prof. an athlete is an extremely ambitious person, in the most unpatriotic sense of the word.
              1. 0
                26 January 2018 23: 48
                Quote: raw174
                The Olympics is the goal of life for all athletes in Olympic sports.

                What goals did Soviet athletes have before 1954?
                1. 0
                  29 January 2018 00: 14
                  Where did the 220 athletes go, after all, 389 are allowed, and only 169 are traveling? Maybe our sports houses are also muddying and not saying anything?
                  1. 0
                    29 January 2018 12: 20
                    Quote: RusPrim
                    Maybe our sports chickens are also muddying and not talking?

                    It’s anyway, the stigma of our officials in the cannon.
  17. +7
    26 January 2018 08: 18
    The latest events no longer hint, but openly confirm that we are not talking about any fight against doping. The point is the desire to humiliate Russia at any cost.

    Captain evidence ... otherwise it was not immediately clear!
    1. +4
      26 January 2018 08: 30
      mischievous grumbler feel
      1. +5
        26 January 2018 08: 32
        Quote: Evil543
        mischievous grumbler feel

        My ex-wife said the same thing. You are already two. wink
  18. +2
    26 January 2018 09: 04
    If Rodchenkov, and with him a couple of “best friends of Russia” would suddenly disappear without a trace, on the way to the nearest store, then the “world community” would decrease the agility of “punishing” Russia.
    1. +1
      26 January 2018 09: 09
      C'mon ... a holy place ... there is no empty place ... they will find someone else ... I think ... the most fun is yet to come ... World Cup ... a friend from England said there are stadiums quiet on this subject check ...
      1. 0
        26 January 2018 11: 10
        Quote: Vard
        I think ... the most fun is yet to come ... World Cup ..

        Wangyu ... It starts with Jikia and his phrase about melted chocolates
    2. +3
      26 January 2018 10: 36
      you know. that he has an order from Putin and thanks?
      1. 0
        26 January 2018 12: 40
        Quote: Overlock
        you know. that he has an order from Putin and thanks?


        There is such Putin often rewards those who are not worthy. Why?
  19. BAI
    +8
    26 January 2018 09: 30
    A delegation of officials has already been appointed, tickets have been bought and hotel reservations have been made. Vodka with caviar was purchased for the Russian House. And cancel it all? Yes, never and never! Our officials will proudly wipe themselves out, will endure all the shame that will fall on Russia, but they will never give up luxurious inaction abroad at public expense. Sport is the problem of athletes. But state people have other tasks, and sport and the dignity of the state do not appear in them.
    1. +1
      26 January 2018 23: 49
      Quote: BAI
      Vodka with caviar was purchased for the Russian House. And cancel it all?

      "Russian home" in Korea will not be officially announced.
  20. +6
    26 January 2018 09: 30
    The root cause of all the reasons is the current not legitimate and comprador power! Living in isolation from the people, their aspirations, pride and justice! The elections are coming soon, think about who to vote for and whether to go to them at all!
  21. +7
    26 January 2018 09: 32
    Very interesting. My comment about the disregard of the majority of those in power towards the people is deleted. Was I wrong somewhere? Or maybe "our" sports officials are happy for the prosperity of the country and sports in particular?
  22. +6
    26 January 2018 09: 58
    Quote: Ded Talash
    And I think that they will still pay on time contributions to the IOC, for which they will pay the same discrimination of Russia ...

    --------------------------
    Duc ours managed to get a shame, the war and still have to stay 15 million. I would have refused to pay this money in their place, since the IOC also did not fulfill my promises of "lifting sanctions after December 5, 2017." And after the Olympics I would suspend payments to the IOC. And our fools also bought unnecessary broadcasts, because the time difference will still not allow them to watch in the evening prime time.
  23. +7
    26 January 2018 10: 04
    The failure of our team, I personally do not think it is a shame! Why? Very simple! The IOC is an exclusively pro-Western structure with a specific order from specific owners! The IOC at all costs defends the interests of the one who orders this music. Losing in a foreign field, in a strange game with alien referees - not a loss. Of course, you can remove officials from sports, but this will not affect the IOC’s position, but you can surrender Crimea and Donbas, stop the development of the Armed Forces and choose Navalny, then we will immediately start participating everywhere, even doping will be allowed to eat and win! Who agrees? I'm against! To hell with her with the Olympics! But my president does not grovel in the white house and does not beg for handouts!
    Some time ago I spoke out for participating in competitions under the neutral flag, but now I have revised my point of view, I am for a boycott.
    Why is the government not boycotting? Everything is simple! If you conduct a survey among athletes, the result will be the opposite, they want to go! Prof. athletes are very selfish people, they do not care about the flag and the country, they have ambitions in the first place, in case of a boycott they will run away ...
    1. +7
      26 January 2018 10: 34
      raw174 Today, 10:04
      Prof. athletes are very selfish people, they do not care about the flag and the country, they have ambitions in the first place, in case of a boycott they will run away ...
      Yes, and to hell with them! We need people who, if something happens, are ready to sell their homeland? I suppose not. Therefore, they want to run, let them run, and you can betray a kick for a jerk.
      1. +1
        26 January 2018 10: 54
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        Yes, and to hell with them! We need people who, if something happens, are ready to sell their homeland?

        We will be left without professional sports ... They will not sell their homeland, but why will they change without a twinge? Because they consider their success to be their own! Yes, they put their lives on the altar of victory, after they gave everything they are not allowed to participate in the most prestigious games, but they live once they don’t have a second chance, therefore they are ready to run under any flag ...
    2. +9
      26 January 2018 10: 39
      Quote: raw174
      Prof. athletes - people are very selfish, they do not care about the flag and the country, they have ambition in the first place
  24. +6
    26 January 2018 10: 16
    I think so: there were agreements between the authorities and the IOC, we will not sue, let the athletes go on their own. Oh, okay! When the time came, the IOC blocked those who were objectionable to him, and ours - as always in touch.
    - "We have agreed!?"
    - " About what?"
    Just got used to "personal contacts" and so everything was decided. Threw suckers once again.
    However, as with the expansion of NATO, as well as with Ukraine, etc., etc.
  25. +1
    26 January 2018 10: 17
    Quote: Romulus
    Zenit Arena, cormorants)

    grandmas. nag yourself
  26. +5
    26 January 2018 10: 21
    It’s interesting, but if for many years, at the initiative of Mutko, sports and diplomatic work was deliberately ignored by Mutko (they don’t know how, and don’t need it), then why did we keep these notorious “Russian houses,” boasting about their wastefulness, and wrote out artists watered vodka and fed caviar whole hordes of any chantrap? And all for free, at the expense of our pensioners. What is the point of squandering considerable funds if we have not made friends or even temporary allies?
    1. 0
      26 January 2018 11: 55
      Well, Russia now has no allies. Therefore, the boycott is apparently not being announced; who else will support it then? As you know, there are no people who want it So the ranking place is indicated and it’s time to fulfill ...!
  27. +2
    26 January 2018 10: 26
    Quote: NEXUS
    Captain evidence ... otherwise it was not immediately clear!

    -------------------------------
    The funny or sad thing is that the IOC is a public organization, albeit an international one. Therefore, in this status, she can generally individually decide on athletes who to call and who not to call. I do not know why ours even began to rush there when the Anglo-Saxons nevertheless bent the Europeans under themselves, not without the help of the CIA and the FBI. They must be beaten in rubles, and this shameful fine should not be paid for “investigations,” and especially not to buy these unnecessary broadcasts. Let the IOC shoot itself in the foot.
    1. +5
      26 January 2018 11: 25
      lol good The US Department of State's Department of Sports and Physical Education, better known as the IOC, continues to surprise us with new innovations on the topic “How do we equip the Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang”.
      Every morning in the International Olympic Committee begins with a fly. A strict employee of the US Department of State sits at the table, and, on the contrary, on polyethylene bedding just in case, the responsible officials of the IOC are shifting from one foot to the other.
      “The situation is alarming,” the employee says sternly. - Despite the ban of the Russian team to demonstrate their flag, anthem and uniform at the Olympics and the removal of their best athletes, things are not going well in Syria. For some reason, all of ours are now fighting among themselves, and the Russians and Assad are standing on the sidelines with heavy packets of popcorn. I am waiting for your suggestions in this difficult situation.
      “What if ...” the IOC official says uncertainly.
      “Not worth it,” the employee answers sternly.
      - Clear. Allow at least ...
      - But try it. This operation is entrusted to you, so proceed.
      And the officials grated out of the office, wondering what else to ban the Russians.
      If until February the situation for the Americans in Syria does not improve, the DPRK will not abandon the nuclear program, and China will not abandon the idea of ​​trading oil futures for the yuan, sending the petrodollar to where Trump had previously sent Haiti, then Russia will inevitably face new sports bans, as sports out of politics.
      In bobsleigh, skeleton and sledding, our athletes will be invited to ride on cardboard, because beans and sleds are only for countries participating in the Games.
      In the biathlon we will be offered to shoot at targets from a slingshot or throw snowballs at them.
      Skiers will have to slide down slopes without skis, skillfully gliding on the soles, and hockey players will be prohibited from using clubs and goalkeepers.
      In curling, they will take away brushes, in ski jumping - springboard, and in figure skating - music.
      The most interesting thing is that even in this case Russia can collect all the medals, such is her karma.
      Our bobsledders will rush on a cardboard with a cheerful whistle, as in childhood from a hill: bang - and a world record. Our biathlete will knock out all the targets from the slingshot, because of which his parents went to school more often than he did, and will break barefoot in the snow to the finish, as he ran from the ice hole back to the bathhouse, laying in two and a half seconds. A half-hour-old Swedish skier, who will be in despair for a long time, will break his high-tech rifle on a derelict Korean pine tree.
      And around the fans wave Soviet flags and sing “Katyusha”, awakening alarming subconscious anguish in the European IOC members.
      And try to take away these flags from them. For this flag, the fan’s grandfather put a platoon of the ancestors of the IOC members with one sapper blade near Voronezh, and it is better not to provoke a grandson.
      But, I think, our fans will be banned from going to Korea to get sick in a week, as the fans are only for the countries participating in the Games. What will the next flyer be devoted to at the IOC.
      And in response to this abbreviation, “COP” needs to rename the embassies of the countries that voted for the removal of our team from the Olympics, in FE (“foreign embassy”) and take from them a daily tax of six percent of their total salaries for conducting individual subversive activities. The raised funds will be used to develop children's mass sports in Russia.
      Posted by Green Tea
  28. +1
    26 January 2018 10: 30
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    Is it like we're dope mired?

    explain to me, a former athlete how to achieve such results in Sochi:

    1. +1
      26 January 2018 14: 41
      Do you, as a former athlete, know such surnames as Waild and AN? And how much gold did they bring? Plus adequate judging in figure skating. Plus Easy, as usual, did not fall before the finish. If your sport is not beer and watching, let them talk, then you should know all this. And you are our truth-maker, study the indicators of Canada, before and during your home medal competition.
      1. +1
        26 January 2018 14: 58
        Quote: zyzx
        study the performance of Canada, before and during home medal competitions.



        And how many medals did Canada have in Turin, Vancouver and Sochi?
        1. 0
          26 January 2018 15: 15
          Did Google turn off Google in Italy?
          1. +1
            26 January 2018 15: 19
            In Italy, everything is fine with Google. And he says that you write nonsense. Therefore, instead of showing the number of Canada medals at these 3 Olympiads, you switched to a flood about Google in Italy .... and flood, do not carry bags


            In Turin, Canada won 24 medals, in Vancouver-26, in Sochi-24
    2. 0
      26 January 2018 23: 57
      Quote: Overlock
      explain to me, a former athlete how to achieve such results in Sochi:

      It's simple, “theirs” athletes were not allowed to use doping. Sochi is not only our victory, but also their failure, for which we are avenged.
      In addition, for some reason, doesn’t it bother you that tiny Norway took second place? Russia is the coldest country in the world, it is not surprising that we are the leader in winter sports. It would be surprising if Nigeria was at the head of this list, like that Negro on the track, I don’t remember which Olympics.
  29. +8
    26 January 2018 10: 41
    Quote: Overlock
    explain to me, a former athlete how to achieve such results in Sochi:

    -----------------------------
    Do skaters need dope? No. Sanochniki, bobsledders? No. There was no short track. Hockey players need? Skiers and biathletes are also not revealed. What questions still?
    1. +9
      26 January 2018 10: 50
      Altona Today, 10:41
      What more questions?
      And they do not ask questions in order to receive answers to them. The main thing is to do a govnovbros and turn on the fan to the full. For this to see and receive money. Although it may work just like that, from a pure love of art, but hardly.
      1. +2
        26 January 2018 11: 19
        are you so to yourself Respect the interlocutor, although what can you expect from such a person?
        Do you measure all by yourself? Have you grabbed God by the beard?
        I thought you were adequate, it turns out - on the contrary
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        And they do not ask questions in order to receive answers to them. The main thing is to do a govnovbros and turn on the fan to the full. For this to see and receive money.
        1. +7
          26 January 2018 11: 28
          Well, first of all, you are lucky; I didn’t even think about you like that. For example, I do not need a lot of time to evaluate "hu hu" according to your comments.
          Secondly, who is “adequate” in your understanding? Anyone who is crap on his country? In that case, YES, I'm not "adequate." laughing
      2. +4
        26 January 2018 11: 36
        Especially for stubborn (educational program):
        1. Erythropoietin - increases the amount of hemoglobin in the blood, so the blood can carry more oxygen in the body, which improves endurance.
        Scope - cyclic sports: cycling, cross-country skiing, biathlon, swimming, skating.
        In 2001, almost the entire Finnish star team was caught at the home world skiing championships using EPO.
        2. Anabolic steroids - Due to the use of steroids, there is a significant increase in muscle mass (5-10 kg per month), strength indicators, endurance, red blood cell production increase, bone tissue strengthens, and fat reserves decrease.
        Athletics (sprint, throwing, long jump), weightlifting, swimming, ski race.
        3. Diuretics - help to quickly reduce body weight, improve the appearance of athletes. Dehydration helps to give the muscles underlined shapes. The scope of application is rhythmic gymnastics, figure skating, athletics, weightlifting.
        Then you can search for yourself.
        As you can see, you are just an illiterate and uneducated boor. "Learn, study and study" - V.I. Lenin
        1. +5
          26 January 2018 12: 54
          Especially for stubborn (educational program):

          You are stubborn
          Tell me, what illegal drug helped Zubkov?
          -If Shipulin is doping, how does he go through all the stages of the World Cup?
          I can ask dozens of such questions.
          Answer ...
          1. +1
            26 January 2018 22: 37
            I answer:
            1.From the text of Zhukov’s speech to the IOC Executive Committee
            ...I, as the president of the Russian Olympic Committee, apologize for the anti-doping rule violations that were committed in our country.
            2.Russian President Vladimir Putin
            «We ourselves are to blame. We gave a reason for this, because real cases of the use and use of doping were really revealed. "


            And why sprinkle saliva? The leadership of the country and OCD recognized the fact of doping and apologized for it
            Dot. Or do you not like their statements? Have your own opinion? Go to court!
            If only they weren’t too lazy to read and listen, otherwise they were violent “defenders”, but they ended up in shit.
            "May my friends and truth be dear to me, but duty commands me to give preference to truth." Aristotle
      3. +1
        26 January 2018 22: 52
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        The main thing is to do a govnovbros and turn on the fan to the full

        Quote: Varyag_0711
        Anyone who is crap on his country?

        I believe that you can quite possibly attribute your words to Zhukov and Putin, who recognized the fact of doping and Zhukov apologized to the IOC.
        They refute your statement and deserve your severest punishment. Well, how emotional are you? Are you ready?
        I had a riotous old man at Filchenkovo, until a loudspeaker in his tweendeck fell on his head. Corrected.
    2. +3
      26 January 2018 10: 58
      Quote: Altona
      Skiers and biathletes are also not identified.

      Recently, skiers leaked that they smeared their skins with fat of pigs, which are stuffed with dope in the laboratories of the Kremlin! therefore, the samples are pure and there is gold! We need the blood of pigs, giving fat and grease, to take ...
    3. +2
      26 January 2018 11: 26
      those. if we claim that foreign athletes use doping in these sports, then in relation to ours, is it not needed?
      --One of the first in 2016, the Olympic champion in ice dancing, Yekaterina Bobrova, was accused of doping. Then she convened a press conference and announced that she had been taking meldonium for a long time.


      those. she herself admitted taking doping
    4. +4
      26 January 2018 11: 30
      My classmate once went to the "big sport", then coached youth coaching all-around. Then he recently went to fitness not by age, no, he said (maybe he is cunning) that he didn’t wants to participate more in the "crime" morally - now young people are stuffed with chemistry from the very beginning, they are crippled by "cunning mixtures" of a young, growing organism, a harmonious rhythm and so on are lost. Now in sports, the main thing is not only a “training program”, but also a “schedule schedule” for taking various “drugs”. Big sport irrevocably took the path of "chemicalization" and this is a fact. But the fact that only Russia was accused of this - flagrant injustice, absolutely all countries in sports, now they are "chemists" ...
    5. +1
      26 January 2018 11: 51
      you need doping indicated. Details below
      1. BAI
        0
        26 January 2018 13: 39
        No, they’re not looking for dope there. Doping must be sought in KAMAZ at the rally "Paris - Dakar".
      2. +1
        27 January 2018 23: 59
        I wrote a lot of letters.
        They just didn’t answer me ....
        As the mclaren’s case has nothing to say, only blah blah, like they took so many medals, how can one do without doping?
  30. +1
    26 January 2018 10: 56
    Quote: Giants
    The degree of "compliance" will be determined by SamKiKto, and her Peskova's mustache will be voiced.

    how do peskov’s mustaches rage and when the fool shaves them wink
  31. +2
    26 January 2018 10: 58
    Quote: sapporo1959
    But interestingly, who appointed these so-called cattle in the OCD? Really from the State Department brought scum? And then how to read, so strange things happen in our country ...?

    Exactly! Guess on one occasion who appointed them and who authorized them to fly under the white flag ...
    And you still want to vote for the most-most-most? Naive ...
    1. +3
      26 January 2018 13: 41
      Quote: Brigadier
      And you still want to vote for the most-most-most? Naive ...


      Yeah, "Grudinin will come, put things in order ..." ?!
  32. 0
    26 January 2018 10: 59
    Something all of this reminded me of the movie "Mars Attacks." In particular, a spokesperson.
  33. +1
    26 January 2018 11: 01
    Unfortunately, these games cannot be boycotted, since after the 80-84 Olympiads, a decision was made in the charter to remove the country boycotting the games for the next two Olympiads.
    1. +9
      26 January 2018 11: 12
      So what now? Tolerate this humiliation and wash yourself? These games need to be boycotted until the full exit from the IOC. It is necessary to create and organize your own organization of your games. And what they will be called is not so important, albeit at least again "Goodwill Games."
      There tank biathlon began with several countries, how many countries are participating in it now? Why is there no alternative to this disgrace called OI?
    2. +1
      27 January 2018 00: 01
      Quote: Grigorievich
      to suspend the country of boycotting games for the next two Olympiads.

      Yes, even for the next hundred, it will be like with the League of Nations.
  34. +3
    26 January 2018 11: 12
    No need to appeal to the authorities. Putin said unequivocally - those who want to go will go and the state will help them. Therefore, the choice is the athletes. A sort of exam for patriotism. What is their homeland and honor. Here everyone has to decide. Itself. Alone, and not behind the back of the type of "Olympic meeting". Well, we'll see.
    1. 0
      26 January 2018 16: 22
      Quote: Chater57
      A sort of exam for patriotism

      How are you ready to help the ruble athletes? Here is an exam for patriotism and unity !!!
  35. +5
    26 January 2018 11: 36
    Quote: Overlock
    those. if we claim that foreign athletes use doping in these sports, then in relation to ours, is it not needed?
    - One of the first in 2016, the Olympic champion in ice dancing Ekaterina Bobrova was accused of doping. Then she convened a press conference and announced that she had been taking meldonium for a long time.


    those. she herself admitted taking doping

    ------------------------------
    Meldonium is just a cardioprotector-protector of the heart muscle, it does not give any advantages in acceleration or strength. Yes, this is not necessary for the skater. In addition, mildranate is excreted from the body for a long time. Thirdly, WADA is not some kind of biochemical organization, there are mainly lawyers sitting there who, using unknown criteria, ban some drugs and others not.
    1. +1
      26 January 2018 11: 41
      it's all wonderful- but what is the outcome?
      1. 0
        27 January 2018 00: 02
        Quote: Overlock
        it's all wonderful- but what is the outcome?

        The results are still far away.
        1. 0
          27 January 2018 12: 44
          and what results are you waiting for? In my opinion everything is already clear
          1. 0
            27 January 2018 12: 48
            Quote: Overlock
            and what results are you waiting for? In my opinion everything is already clear

            Sport is not a spherical horse in a vacuum, it is only part of the overall process. Sport is not a goal - but a means and passing it off as a “result” is utter nonsense.
            1. 0
              27 January 2018 13: 15
              but now we think about sports. It is clear that everything is interconnected. Although then why our amazement about the IOC, everything is interconnected
              1. 0
                27 January 2018 13: 25
                Quote: Overlock
                but now we think about sports.

                We can gossip about anything.
                Quote: Overlock
                It is clear that everything is interconnected. Although then why our amazement about the IOC, everything is interconnected

                There is no amazement, at this Olympiad non-sporting tasks are being solved and the trip or not our team’s trip is a means of solving unsportsmanlike problems, I’ll pay attention again - MEANS NOT AIM.
  36. +1
    26 January 2018 11: 40
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    Well, first of all, you are lucky; I didn’t even think about you like that. For example, I do not need a lot of time to evaluate "hu hu" according to your comments.
    Secondly, who is “adequate” in your understanding? Anyone who is crap on his country? In that case, YES, I'm not "adequate"

    I do not need your attention. Yestina- is this crap? You have an inversion of thinking
    1. +1
      26 January 2018 11: 55
      I apologize: Truth is crap?
  37. +2
    26 January 2018 11: 55
    A boycott of the Olympiad is not possible without the decision of the authorities and we will not do anything, no matter how many percent there are. But we, as fans, can boycott those athletes who, contrary to the will of their people, will go to this humiliating disgrace for Russia. Not to go to competitions with their participation means to beat them with the ruble, and this is more important for them than the opinion of the people. Whistle if you still get to the competition. That is all we can.
    1. 0
      26 January 2018 16: 20
      Quote: Vadmir
      But we, as fans, can boycott those athletes who, contrary to the will of their people, will go to this humiliating disgrace for Russia.

      You're interesting person. Putin says we are not boycotting. Why don’t you have the power to bacteriate? What did you get to the point of athletes? This is their WORK, they earn money Why not offer to pay them. And that you would have suffered financial losses ... And then you do not risk anything, but offer others to suck a paw ??
  38. 0
    26 January 2018 12: 13
    Why such a kipish?
    Russia is not the USSR, I understand the “breaking” has remained from its former greatness, but it's time to really look at the world.
    For many, it’s as if their eyes were opened ...
    Mok is an international organization and in order to make the necessary decisions it is necessary that you have a bunch of all kinds of Zimbabwe in your “pocket”, when you have allies only the “army and navy” be ready for such realities ...
    Real power needs a strong economy.
    When you have 150 million people, everyone needs to be an engineer and after work it’s not a matter of planting potatoes, but to lead a children's circle of aircraft modeling, so that in the world they are something ...
  39. +1
    26 January 2018 12: 20
    Well, where is this TV presenter now, who was screaming in ecstasy - we will eat, we will perform, we will pass! This scam was stirred up by adult uncles, smart and cynical. Their howl of exalted little women touch little, everything is calculated and thought out. The one who needs to go. They will give a performance, but with a minimum of medals, and even they can be selected in a year. You won’t be able to go with chic at the close - everyone will be selected in advance and kicked out at the slightest attempt to hold some kind of action. But what exactly will succeed is to read an apology to each athlete “for what he’s done” on camera, close-up and re-award with medals for the “dirty” Olympics in Sochi. Well, if you do not have to do it in any other particularly humiliating way. Anglo-Saxon "partners" are now working on this. I propose that this TV presenter, as an initiator, be the first to read these apologies to the whole country.
  40. +8
    26 January 2018 12: 28
    I am proud of the Russian fans who drove English fans through the streets of Marseille at the football championship, who did not fear the number of fans, the police, fines, or French prisons!
    I am ashamed of the Russian Olympians traveling to Korea without a flag, without a homeland, without honor!
    1. +1
      26 January 2018 14: 35
      My December forecast that of the 500 applicants "neutrals seems to be from Russia", the IOC will give the go-ahead only 200 - turned out to be too optimistic. At the moment, there are 169 non-recruits on the list. But this is not the end - MOKushniki continue active stripping. Young animals may not have enough adult doping samples. And until January 29, there may still be losses among the "ichtamnets." In the meantime, like this:
      BIATLON - Anton Babikov, Matvey Eliseev, Tatyana Akimova, Ulyana Kaysheva.
      BOBSLEY AND SKELETON - Maxim Andrianov, Alexey Zaitsev, Vasily Kondratenko, Vladislav Marchenkov, Ruslan Samitov, Yuri Selikhov, Alexey Stulnev, Nikita Tregubov, Julia Belomestnykh, Anastasia Kocherzhova, Alexandra Rodionova, Nadezhda Sergeeva.
      SKI SPORTS - Alexander Andrienko, Pavel Trikhichev, Alexander Khoroshilov, Anastasia Silantieva, Ekaterina Tkachenko.
      KERLING - Alexander Krushelnitsky, Galina Arsenkina, Anastasia Bryzgalova, Ulyana Vasilieva, Julia Guzieva, Victoria Moiseeva, Julia Portunova.
      Speed ​​Skating - Sergey Trofimov, Natalya Voronina, Angelina Golikova, Olga Graf.
      SKI BALANCE - Ernest Yakhin.
      SKI RACE - Alexander Bolshunov, Alexey Vitsenko, Andrey Larkov, Andrey Melnichenko, Alexander Panzhinsky, Denis Spitsov, Alexey Chervotkin, Julia Belorukova, Alisa Zhambalova, Natalya Nepryaeva, Anna Nechaevskaya, Anastasia Sedova.
      SKI JUMPING - Evgeni Klimov, Denis Kornilov, Mikhail Nazarov, Alexey Romashov, Irina Avvakumova, Anastasia Barannikova, Alexandra Kustova, Sofia Tikhonova.
      SANITARY SPORTS - Vladislav Antonov, Andrey Bogdanov, Alexander Denisiev, Andrey Medvedev, Semyon Pavlichenko, Roman Repilov, Stepan Fedorov, Ekaterina Baturina.
      SNOWBOARD - Nikita Avtaneev, Victor Wild, Daniil Dilman, Dmitry Loginov, Anton Mamaev, Nikolai Olyunin, Dmitry Sarsembaev, Andrey Sobolev, Vladislav Khadarin, Milena Bykova, Maria Vasiltsova, Alena Zavarzina, Kristina Paul, Natalya Soboleva, Ekaterina Tudegesheva, Sofya Fedaedova.
      FIGURE SKATING - Dmitry Aliev, Jonathan Gureyro, Mikhail Kolyada, Vladimir Morozov, Alexey Rogonov, Dmitry Soloviev, Alexander Enbert, Kristina Astakhova, Ekaterina Bobrova, Natalya Zabiyako, Alina Zagitova, Tiffany Zagorsky, Evgenia Medvedeva, Maria Sotskova, Evgenia Tarasova.
      FRISTYLE - Ilya Burov, Maxim Burov, Semyon Denshchikov, Egor Korotkov, Pavel Krotov, Stanislav Nikitin, Igor Omelin, Sergey Ridzik, Alexander Smyshlyaev, Pavel Chupa, Alina Gridneva, Valeria Demidova, Victoria Zavadovskaya, Lyubov Nikitina, Alexandra Orlova, Marika Pertahia Lana Prusakova, Regina Rakhimova, Kristina Spiridonova, Ekaterina Stolyarova, Anastasia Tatalina, Anastasia Chirtsova.
      HOCKEY
      Sergey Andronov, Alexander Barabanov, Vyacheslav Voinov, Vladislav Gavrikov, Mikhail Grigorenko, Nikita Gusev, Pavel Datsyuk, Artem Zub, Andrey Zubarev, Ilya Kablukov, Sergey Kalinin, Kirill Kaprizov, Bogdan Kiselevich, Ilya Kovalchuk, Vasily Koshechkin, Alexey Marchenko, Sergey M , Nikita Nesterov, Nikolai Prokhorkin, Ilya Sorokin, Ivan Telegin, Dinar Hafizullin, Igor Shesterkin, Vadim Shipachev, Sergey Shirokov.
      Nadezhda Alexandrova, Maria Batalova, Lyudmila Belyakova, Liana Ganeeva, Angelina Goncharenko, Elena Dergacheva, Evgenia Dupina, Fanuza Kadirova, Diana Kanaeva, Victoria Kulishova, Ekaterina Lobova, Nadezhda Morozova, Ekaterina Nikolaeva, Valeria Pavlova, Nina Pirogova, Ekaterina Olga, Ekaterina Olga , Alena Starovoitova, Valery Tarakanova, Svetlana Tkacheva, Anastasia Chistyakova, Anna Shokhina, Alevtina Shtareva.
      SHORT-TRACK - Semyon Elistratov, Pavel Sitnikov, Alexander Shulginov, Ekaterina Efremenkova, Ekaterina Konstantinova, Emin Malagich, Sofia Prosvirnova.
  41. +1
    26 January 2018 12: 29
    Habitual regrets from the mouth of Peskov no longer want to give a place in the line. Peskov's statements are like a dash. Same everywhere.
    Peskov is Putin’s voice. I did not read further.
  42. +1
    26 January 2018 13: 12
    The IOC plays a difficult chess game with itself! only - not with chess pieces, but with domino bones ...
    ... I wonder who will win? because - the losers have already decided ...
  43. 0
    26 January 2018 13: 12
    The Russian Federation is a source of cryptocurrency. The Russian Federation is a member of organizations that need funding for their budget of the Russian Federation, but does not receive anything from them except shame and war.
  44. +4
    26 January 2018 13: 23
    I am very upset that Russia is being humiliated, and the authorities - "pisses in the eye - all God's dew!"
  45. 0
    26 January 2018 13: 43
    It seems that adults should understand that in a hybrid war there can be no direct answers. It is the boycott of games that is being achieved. Because the hostess of the games is a country that refused to impose sanctions against Russia. It is necessary to drive a wedge between countries. For this, they are going to the outright murder of the IOC. Indeed, through its actions, the IOC creates a precedent when you can not invite any athlete to the game. Next time, both Norwegian asthmatics and German athletes can become these uninvited athletes. No one has guarantees. That's what we need to talk about in all the media. Some countries are turning the Olympics into a complete triumph of will. This even Hitler did not dream of. Talk about how in Rio they ran the baton, because the wrong ones won.
  46. +1
    26 January 2018 14: 03
    Quote: Cat Marquis
    Now in sports, the main thing is not only a “training program”, but also a “schedule schedule” for taking various “drugs”.

    100% true. About two months ago in one of the topics I spoke exactly about the same thing! I personally know people (in the same weights) who are sitting on pills.
  47. +1
    26 January 2018 14: 43
    There is a war and our people are being beaten on all fronts ... but we are silent .... Truses !!!! Zhirinovsky to the Kremlin !!!! Drive Shoigu and Lavrov !!!!
    1. +1
      26 January 2018 14: 55
      Quote: Petr1968
      There is a war

      It’s coming, and how fashionable it is to say - hybrid!
      Quote: Petr1968
      ours are beaten on all fronts

      Well, not for everyone ... My opinion about sports in the post above, I do not consider these doping and underdoping scandals to be our shame.
      Quote: Petr1968
      Drive Shoigu and Lavrov !!!!

      Maybe someone needs to be driven, but these two DEAR People are definitely working, doing their job with dignity and honor.
      1. 0
        26 January 2018 14: 56
        Quote: raw174
        Maybe someone needs to be driven, but these two DEAR People are definitely working, doing their job with dignity and honor.

        Seriously?? Is it because on TV about them either good or nothing? Tell us about Lavrov’s victories! And at what planes we shot down, and in return we forbade tomatoes ???
        1. +2
          26 January 2018 15: 02
          Quote: Petr1968
          Tell us about Lavrov’s victories!

          Lavrov is a figure representing the official position of the Russian Federation on the international field. Today, Russia, one of the most influential players on the world stage, is taking steps to spread its influence outside the country and is doing it with confidence. Lavrov is an important part of this process, including thanks to the work of his department.
          1. +1
            26 January 2018 15: 33
            Quote: raw174
            Today, Russia, one of the most influential players on the world stage, is taking steps to spread its influence outside the country and is doing it with confidence.

            I see this influence! For athletes I see, for sanctions .. Influence ?? Who are we influencing ?? On the zombies from the TV that Solovyov watched. That's who we influence, and the rich began to withdraw loot for a long time, everything is done offshore .. And you influence yourself in front of the TV set.
            1. 0
              29 January 2018 06: 28
              Quote: Petr1968
              For athletes I see, for sanctions ..

              I said earlier that in order to lift sanctions and admit athletes, Crimea, Donbas and Syria must be surrendered.
              Quote: Petr1968
              Effect ??

              The base of the RF Armed Forces in Syria was set, this influence in the region, and the formation of oil prices is not the last fiddle, and this influence will increase with the base in the SAR. These are strategic acquisitions that are beginning to pay dividends now.
              Quote: Petr1968
              and the rich began to withdraw loot for a long time, all offshore

              For a long time, since the 90s ...
        2. 0
          27 January 2018 00: 05
          Quote: Petr1968
          And at what planes we shot down, and in return we forbade tomatoes ???

          Did we win in Syria in return?
  48. +1
    26 January 2018 18: 21
    it’s tired of this complicity, Russian officials are retired from sports, without the right to occupy leading positions for life ..., and generally Russia is weak to “hit the shoes on the table at the IOC,” tea didn’t find itself in the trash ...
  49. +2
    26 January 2018 22: 39
    Quote: CONTROL
    The IOC plays a difficult chess game with itself!

    in Chapaya he plays!
  50. +1
    26 January 2018 22: 40
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    The easier it will be for Putin to dunk them into his own guamno. I am sure that we will be shaken up by these organizations, and instead of them truly independent ones will be created, where sport will be at the head, not politics!

    Do you believe that? This is not serious!
  51. 0
    27 January 2018 13: 09
    Quote: Overlock
    I answer:
    1.From the text of Zhukov’s speech to the IOC Executive Committee
    ...I, as the president of the Russian Olympic Committee, apologize for the violations of anti-doping rules that were committed in our country.
    2. Russian President Vladimir Putin
    “We ourselves are to blame for this. We gave a reason for this because real cases of doping have actually been identified."

    -------------------------------
    And what? Now we, too, will burst into tears, if Yaroslavna burst into tears for unknown reasons - financial ones. political, image and what else?
    1. +1
      27 January 2018 13: 17
      Quote: Altona
      Do skaters need dope? No. Sanochniki, bobsledders? No. There was no short track. Hockey players need? Skiers and biathletes are also not revealed. What questions still?

      if my memory serves me. then the debate was on the topic: “Did our athletes take doping or not?” The sports you named use a lot of doping. We are not discussing individuals, the issue was in general. The answer has been received.
      The highest official of the state and the head of the ROC said, “yes, it was.” Everything else is our emotions and nothing more. Then why should we cry over the problems that follow? You need to accept the truth as a basis and work.
      1. 0
        27 January 2018 13: 31
        Quote: Overlock
        The sports you named use doping.

        This does not mean that the named (suspended) athletes use doping. Many were suspended despite clean tests.
        Quote: Overlock
        The highest official of the state and the ROC said, “yes, it was.”

        The President said that yes, we have problems with doping, nothing more, I note that there are such problems in all countries, ALL WITHOUT EXCEPTION, our athletes have been suspended before, no one was indignant - because there is no point in dabbling in doping, but now athletes with clean samples are suspended .
        1. 0
          27 January 2018 13: 44
          undeniable! But the problem is. that behind the general they often do not see the particulars. All countries use doping. Some people get away with it, some don't. And if there is also an order.
          1. 0
            27 January 2018 14: 00
            Quote: Overlock
            Some people get away with it, some don't.

            So modestly - “to someone”?? Yes, you are a comedian.
            Quote: Overlock
            And if there is also an order.

            Without any “if”, just an order, and only an order.
            There is simply no other way to defeat our country in winter sports - only by suspending our athletes.
            1. +2
              27 January 2018 14: 09
              The question is different - why didn’t our OCD sue? He probably would have lost the case, but he didn’t file. Options: 1. Zhukov was shown what we couldn’t be shown and was told, “sit quietly.” those. WADA has something. We shouldn't forget. that Rodchenkov is a talented and ambitious chemist and he did not leave empty-handed
              2. WADA has nothing and Zhukov was told to “sit quietly” and we will sort everything out ourselves. In this case, we were simply treated like suckers.
              But.. Zhukov made an official apology, which means there is.
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  52. 0
    27 January 2018 13: 11
    Quote: Petr1968
    I see this influence! For athletes I see, for sanctions .. Influence ?? Who are we influencing ?? On the zombies from the TV that Solovyov watched. That's who we influence, and the rich began to withdraw loot for a long time, everything is done offshore .. And you influence yourself in front of the TV set.

    -----------------------------
    With this, Peter, I completely agree with you. Our influence is partly, and maybe completely virtual.
  53. 0
    28 January 2018 02: 46
    Dashing 90s
    Echoes again.
    Russia in Lausanne
    They cast out castoffs.

    Take the tub
    Slop guys.
    Bad athletes
    No longer soldiers.

    Go without banner
    Go ahead, Olympians.
    You will be smeared with oil
    Paper porch.

    Bent over, fuck.
    In all that they had
    Without a hymn they dare.
    Did you want this?

    No honor, no flag
    For the money of courage.
    And shame for the medals.
    What else did you give?

    Honor and conscience for you
    Closed story.
    In the faces were?
    “They cleaned themselves up.”

    Let us be told
    You do not touch the athletes.
    After all, they don’t sleep for a day,
    They destroy the veins and veins.

    And hymns and flags
    - words on paper.
    They won’t let me go
    Everyone will go to the Vikings.

    And at the same time
    In Syrian Watch
    Gangster seed
    We are thundering in Der-ir-Zor.

    Heroes of Russia
    Simple guys
    Not everyone has returned.
    Goodbye soldiers!

    Russian enemies!
    There will be no split in us!
    I will repay Judah.
    There are our people everywhere!

    And someone will go ...
    The country will not decrease.
    One is Victory
    Russia will judge.
  54. +1
    28 January 2018 20: 24
    Today, all day long, the news reports that our athletes are knocking on the doors of the IOC to be allowed to compete - just like beggars, for Christ’s sake! And the authorities, in the person of the talking head D. Peskov, are urging - yes, yes, everything is correct, guys “fight” for the “truth”! And what about yourself? Or as in the old saying: “The cat abandoned the kittens...”, further in the text? Then why do we need parasites in the Russian Olympic Committee and the Ministry of Sports? Then these organs must be eliminated, since athletes are given such “freedom” to arrange their own destiny! There are only idlers sitting there! It would be better if the Ministry of Aviation Industry was restored - there would be more benefits, all aviation specialists have been talking about this for a long time! am PS It’s hard to hear “adherents”, you can see they’re still raising their glasses at the tables, then they’ll rush to bang on the keyboard, saying that everyone around them is marginalized, and they’re the most important patriots! wassat
  55. 0
    29 January 2018 00: 02
    Interestingly, the IOC allowed 389 athletes to participate, but only 169 are going - where are the other 220?
  56. 0
    29 January 2018 11: 51
    I support Roman. It was necessary to react immediately after Rio, harshly and unconditionally. Don't chew snot. But... We got what we got. There is a typical reaction of the authorities to aggression. It’s scary to imagine what will happen if some Ukrainians or Balts attack us. Shall we express our concerns and great sadness?
  57. 0
    29 January 2018 21: 09
    Apparently these games will be named after Pavlik Morozov
    1. 0
      29 January 2018 22: 30
      APEROBATICS WOULD BE OUR REMOVAL FROM THE GAMES DAYS BEFORE THE OPENING OF THE OLYMPICS
  58. pal
    +1
    30 January 2018 11: 21
    1. ANATOMY.
    Grigory Rodchenkov has grown from a small man to a size that allows him to deliver blow after blow to the great RUSSIA! I have a question: “Where were the special services when this disaster was still in its embryonic state?”
    It is not necessary to answer, but I would like the question to be asked in the appropriate offices.

    2. RODCHENKOV’S LIST.
    I won’t be surprised that one day we’ll hear about Rodchenkov’s death. In this way he will serve his masters the last time. What do you think - Who will be accused?... And how will events unfold after this?
  59. 0
    30 January 2018 16: 53
    In general, I’m already tired of all this mouse-like fuss around sports. What is this, it’s a show, just games and a feeding ground for a mass of officials who often have nothing to do with sports before or have been released into circulation, will end and no one will remember about them the next day. All this fuss around the decisions of the IOC and WADA, which have long been expected and started back in Canada (where Russia’s main achievement was only partying in the Russian House), is needed only by our bureaucrats, who will procrastinate all the achievements of Soviet sports, so hated by them, at best, due to their incompetence and inactivity, at worst, by intent, to the point of cold sweat and anuresis, they are afraid of losing their warm and profitable chairs. Which, with the look of a beaten dog, whining and making excuses, hiding behind a girl, from slops and excrement, scrape in doors, agreeing and blaming all imaginable and inconceivable accusations, kneeling and wiping snot from whipped cheeks. And athletes, like athletes, they used to compete for their Motherland and were proud of their uniform and flag, but now exclusively for money, not all Of course, those who are for the country were not allowed in and were suspended, they don’t go to competitions, but to bridesmaids, to show themselves off to future employers, snatch contracts and then quickly leave the country, they didn’t care about the country, the flag and the anthem, for them it’s an empty phrase (this is the reality of upbringing in our society and “successful education reforms”) hockey is a direct example of how they began to play in the NHL, but were never champions and never won against the Canadians and Americans, otherwise the contract would be broken and monetary sanctions. IOC has outlived its usefulness, has become a political and reactionary, dependent organization that does not have any positive impact on sports. In my opinion, there is no need for our further participation in it, there is simply no point. Disperse all our bureaucratic camarilla, let these parasites teach at school and institute physical education, and the ministry should deal with the normal physical education of the people and youth, the development of real sports. And since the 90s there have been no normal healthy guys, some are a problem to staff, and women have forgotten how to give birth normally, if the pregnancy is 9 months without complications, a normal child is born then this is already a miracle and great happiness. But the people don’t get much profit from sports of great achievements, so bread and circuses, what is there, what is not, no one will be killed, but because of such humiliations and such a snotty, inarticulate position of our bureaucrats, people are extremely outraged, not even so much by the expected policy of our “partners”, but by our ghouls and their actions, which does not add respect and gratitude to either the government or the money bags that have withdrawn from the problems in the country, to put it mildly.

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