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Russians are fleeing Russia: 15% of citizens are sitting on suitcases, 15 millions will leave in the coming years

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Millions of Russians rush to Europe, fleeing from the "Kremlin imprisonment," reports the German public television channel Das Erste. The authoritarian policy of the Kremlin is pushing the emigration of the Russian people.




Here are the data of the Levada Center: Fifteen percent of the citizens of the Russian Federation are sitting on suitcases. They are going to Europe or even to the West. True, they are at heart with Russia. This is the story of the German TV channel "Das Erste" (translated "InoTV").

Soon there will be elections in Russia. Is there an election? After all, any result other than Putin’s victory would have been a sensation in the country. It is because of the unchallenged power that many Russians feel themselves as if they were imprisoned. However, the majority of Russians want the current president to remain in power, and therefore will vote for him again. Nevertheless, the number of those who are against Putin, those who think differently, is growing. Here they leave the Motherland.

Recent months have shown the arbitrariness of Russians in dealing with them, says Stanislav Kucher, a member of the Human Rights Council under the President of the Russian Federation. He calls on President Putin to take the current situation seriously, since the authoritarian bias in the country willy-nilly mixes with what is sometimes called the "Orthodox Taliban" (the Taliban, we remind, is prohibited in Russia). “Only from my friends over the past year has decided to leave the country for about twenty people,” said Kucher on the air. - These are young scientists, entrepreneurs, cultural figures. They create a feeling of such a cold civil war. ”

Other well-known figures stand in solidarity with the driver. “In the following years, fifteen million people may leave Russia,” said Vyacheslav Postavnin, the former deputy director of the Federal Migration Service.

Most departing attracts Baltic. And there they, by the way, are willingly received. Radio and TV presenter Artemy Troitsky is now a professor at Tallinn University. He moved with his family to Estonia. There are good schools teaching Russian, but ... without propaganda. Trinity says:

"I do not see in a country like Russia, a future for our children."


According to Troitsky, in Estonia it is “easier and freer” to do business. Why? Because “no mafia robs you,” and “government agencies do not extort bribes from you”.

But Galina Timchenko, who had previously held the post of head of the largest Russian online media, was not fired by Kremlin pressure. She, together with the editors, left and founded a media start-up in Riga. “Many people, especially in the last two years and this year, all the more, realized that another six years without changes is quite difficult,” she believes.

So, according to the forecasts of some experts, in the coming years (obviously, in the new Putin’s term), about fifteen million people will move from Russia to Latvia and Estonia. All these people will become real migrants, that is, those who will constantly live abroad. And it will be "young scientists, entrepreneurs, cultural figures."

Recall, according to the forecast of the National Bureau of Economic Research (Cambridge), already by 2084, the fossil fuels on the planet will be exhausted. Hence, a disappointing scenario for Russia dependent on oil and gas: this country will own all 3% of world assets (against approximately 10% for today), and the country's citizens will give more than 50% of their salaries to the budget.

Population of the Russian Federation will begin to shrink already from the current 2018 of the year, and by 2050, the year will decrease by almost 14 million. This means that by the beginning of 2050, only 130,3 million people will live in Russia. This is the “most likely” forecast from K. Novikov, a researcher at the international laboratory of political demography of the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. Anarchist
    Anarchist 25 January 2018 07: 40
    81
    I’m also sitting on suitcases! As soon as work at home appears, normally paid, then go home immediately! It's just that I’m not going to leave anywhere ... They all bishat!
    I wonder where they get these numbers from? Where do they have this finger, from which they constantly suck something? And why do they suck something out of it?
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 25 January 2018 07: 44
      22
      Quote: Anarchist
      I wonder where they get these numbers?

      Well, in general, there are enough people who want to go abroad. Compare the standard of living:
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 25 January 2018 07: 49
        34
        I agree that enough ... But not 15 percent? Or did they interview children? Although the other day he talked with a classmate on WhatsApp, so he said that he wants to in Miami! I am writing to him that this is not patriotic! Russian man wants to relax in Cuba ... What he wrote to me, literally!
        Patriotic? What is this? And a bunch of laughing emoticons ...
        Damn, but this is my childhood friend!
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 25 January 2018 07: 57
          10
          Quote: Anarchist
          I am writing to him that this is not patriotic! Russian man wants to relax in Cuba ...

          I had friends in Cuba recently, it’s boring and not interesting, I don’t have any entertainment, the food is mediocre, there’s also nowhere to go to see the sights ..... and before Fidel there was the best travel business in the Caribbean.
          1. Vard
            Vard 25 January 2018 08: 04
            21
            Casinos and brothels ... it was ... and now ... we did snorkeling there ... Where better than on the Red Sea ... Well, in the evenings, rum, cigars and coffee ...
            1. Nicholas C.
              Nicholas C. 25 January 2018 08: 30
              21
              We would have already determined:
              - Russia's population will decrease by 15%, i.e. by 22 million - the figure is approximately equal to the remaining population of Ukraine (which all Western "freedoms" slurp in full);
              - will decrease by 15 million "in the coming years" !, which will move towards the Baltic states (the very one which, under Western "freedoms", has already lost from a quarter to a third of its population);
              - will decrease by 14 million "until 2050."
              And then after the reforms acceptable to the West of the 90s, equal to genocide, at the present time the West still cannot manage to reduce the population of Russia as effectively as the population of Ukraine.
              1. cniza
                cniza 25 January 2018 09: 04
                32
                An article for the election, but our people will figure out who to choose and where to go, without the "German" magazines.
                1. ando_bor
                  ando_bor 25 January 2018 09: 10
                  +8
                  Quote: cniza
                  without the "German" magazines.

                  Yes, without German journalists and American sites.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 25 January 2018 09: 15
                    +7
                    Naturally, there striped ears stick out, they have long taken all to their hands.
                2. Red_Hamer
                  Red_Hamer 25 January 2018 10: 56
                  +2
                  An article for the election, but our people will figure out who to choose and where to go, without the "German" magazines.
                  Note how many outright trolls from Nenko surfaced here!
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 25 January 2018 11: 01
                    +3
                    So what this article smells like is what flies.
                    1. Julio Jurenito
                      Julio Jurenito 25 January 2018 13: 50
                      +4
                      As one of the heroes of Virgin Soil Uptown said:
                      - Fuck you. The manure will float away, and what’s harder will remain.
                3. zloybond
                  zloybond 25 January 2018 12: 23
                  +8
                  There are many provocations under the elections. For example, I consider a provocation with a transfer of rights. Of course the people did not like it. I just went crazy about whatsapp right away like a joke about it. The people are right by the way. On the one hand, the topic is simply cutting down money by obliging people to pay. Plus queues. Officially, the figure for this case falls into 40-50 million people. Yes, they are not all at the same time. But all the sediment remained. For example, I looked at the situation, but what about me? Yes, everything is simple - thank God for 20 years of experience without excesses - it turns out that since 2004 I have been paying for insurance just bakshish to insurers and businessmen. Now here are the rights - they will end in a year - and the international and crusts of individual countries will still be in effect for 6, 7, 8 years .... It turns out that somewhere I can, but at home I need to decide something, pay somewhere ... So Simple Deposit of the law for consideration - provokes a negative attitude towards the authorities on the part of tens of millions of electorates who are being invited to the polls.
                  Well and so ... for a laugh - drew attention to the zombie. I'm not lying here ... just watch the advertisement yourself (it seems in Russia) after the advertisement about the remedy for diarrhea ... the next reminds you to remember about the elections. Well, this is our mentality ride right and vote .....
                  1. ratfly
                    ratfly 25 January 2018 21: 06
                    0
                    Extension of service life, also a provocation?
                    1. zloybond
                      zloybond 26 January 2018 11: 34
                      0
                      life time? I somehow missed this, I didn’t even hear .... I myself have been serving Russia in the back streets of the world since I was 93 years old. ridiculously ... started when he still had no passport. ... was a citizen of the USSR) it was even ridiculous ... to go to war ... and in a military cart - first you will receive citizenship. But everyone chooses for himself.
                4. Vanek
                  Vanek 25 January 2018 13: 15
                  +2
                  Quote: cniza
                  "German"


                  fascist *
              2. alexmach
                alexmach 25 January 2018 11: 11
                +2
                - will decrease by 15 million "in the coming years" !, which will move towards the Baltic states (the very one which, under Western "freedoms", has already lost from a quarter to a third of its population);

                In the very one in which already something about 7 million people live now :)
                Some kind of stupid article.

                Although I have at work the 2 largest “diasporas” are the Russian and Ukrainian. So, communicating with the Russians living in Estonia and slowly moving further west, I concluded that they would agree with the message of this article ...
              3. svd-xnumx
                svd-xnumx 25 January 2018 22: 01
                0
                Russia's population will decrease by 15%, i.e. by 22 million - the figure is approximately equal to the remaining population of Ukraine (which all Western "freedoms" slurp in full);
                In the country that won the "bloody Panda" and full of "democratic freedoms" according to surveys, more than 50% of the population sits on suitcases.
            2. Fayth
              Fayth 25 January 2018 11: 52
              +2
              There was there and there, the Caribbean Sea, in comparison with the red, dead desert, there is nothing to say about the Atlantic.
          2. Romulus
            Romulus 25 January 2018 08: 08
            10
            Quote: RUSS
            I had friends in Cuba recently, boring and not interesting,

            Next time advise in Sev. Go to Korea, you look cheer ..)
          3. Sergey Fomenko
            Sergey Fomenko 25 January 2018 09: 10
            0
            Friends told?
          4. Tusv
            Tusv 25 January 2018 09: 26
            +1
            Quote: RUSS
            and before Fidel there was the best travel business in the Caribbean.

            Before Fidel and After - the tourist flow has not changed. As there was a minuscule per resident, it remained. He is a tourist and a tourist in Africa. Russo Turisto - a form of morality. Where it is budget, there are Germans with Russians
          5. co-creator
            co-creator 25 January 2018 13: 01
            +5
            Quote: RUSS
            I had friends in Cuba recently, it’s boring and not interesting, there’s no entertainment, the food is mediocre, there’s also nowhere to go to see the sights.

            What sights did they want to see? Well, just curious.
            Quote: RUSS
            before Fidel there was the best travel business in the Caribbean.

            Well, yes, it was a lot of fun to put wives and daughters under the rich bourgeoisie
          6. Stasjanja
            Stasjanja 26 January 2018 09: 25
            0
            nonsense. everything is fine there.
          7. myobius59
            myobius59 29 January 2018 15: 04
            0
            Was there personally, before Fidel? There is something to compare.
            What year were you born, kid?
        2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 25 January 2018 07: 59
          43
          Quote: Anarchist
          Patriotic? What is this? And a bunch of laughing emoticons ...

          You can recall the doctrine of Allen Dulles, Director of the US CIA, 1945 year:
          “We will throw everything that we have, all gold, all material power and resources to fool and fool people.
          The human brain, the minds of people are capable of change. Having sowed chaos in Russia, we will quietly replace their values ​​with false ones ... We will find our like-minded people, our assistants and allies in Russia itself. Episode by episode will be played out the grand tragedy of the death of the most rebellious people on earth, the final extinction of his identity.
          From literature and art we ... will gradually erase their social essence, wean artists, we will discourage them from engaging in image, research ... of the processes that occur in the depths of the masses. Literature, theater, cinema - everything will depict and glorify the most base human feelings. We will do our best to support and raise the so-called artists who will instill and hammer into the consciousness the cult of sex, violence, sadism, betrayal - in a word, all immorality.
          In government, we will create chaos, confusion. We will quietly, but actively and constantly contribute to the tyranny of officials, bribe takers, and unscrupulousness. Honesty and decency will be ridiculed and will not be needed by anyone, will turn into a relic of the past. Rudeness and arrogance, lies and deceit, drunkenness and drug addiction, animal fear ... and the enmity of peoples, above all enmity and hatred of the Russian people - all this we will cleverly and inconspicuously cultivate.
          And only a few, very few will guess or understand what is happening. But we will put such people in a helpless position, turn them into a laughing stock, find a way to slander them and declare them to be the scum of society ...
          In this way we will shake generation after generation ... We will fight for people from childhood, youth, we will always place the main stake on young people, we will begin to corrupt, corrupt, and corrupt it. We will make cosmopolitans of them. ”
          1. Galaxy
            Galaxy 25 January 2018 08: 04
            13
            Continue to produce this fake ??? (Dulles plan)
            1. Romulus
              Romulus 25 January 2018 08: 08
              +4
              Quote: Galaxy
              Continue to produce this fake ???

              The USSR is alive. )
              1. demos1111
                demos1111 25 January 2018 14: 50
                10
                I’m going to Russia, I want to go home. I can’t wait for the moment when we become one country
                1. niksan2002
                  niksan2002 25 January 2018 20: 39
                  +2
                  I also....... fellow
            2. Antianglosax
              Antianglosax 25 January 2018 09: 01
              19
              Quote: Galaxy
              Continue to produce this fake ??? (Dulles plan)

              I don’t know - fake, not fake, but all this in Russia already happened! And the authorities, judging by what is happening, are not going to get out of this cesspool.
            3. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 25 January 2018 10: 22
              14
              Fake is not a fake, and this is exactly how it is done. At the beginning of the Cold War, Americans began to witch-hunt in the field of culture and cinema, directors and screenwriters with communist views became nobody and even went to prison in some cases. Look at our party Are there any patriots there? What ideas do they bring viewers to us.
            4. Nikolay Fedorov
              Nikolay Fedorov 25 January 2018 13: 02
              14
              Quote: Galaxy
              Continue to produce this fake ??? (Dulles plan)

              Does it make you nervous when people talk about it? Would you like the planned to be carried out quietly? I have every third employee from young people slamming his eyes and do not know what to answer my provocative question "What happened at 4 a.m. on June 22, 1941?". So your “fake” not only lives, but lives and works great, every little fad. To my great regret.
            5. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
              Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 25 January 2018 13: 03
              +5
              Quote: Galaxy
              Continue to produce this fake ??? (Dulles plan)

              Nevertheless, today there is a considerable number of facts confirming the authenticity of the speech of A. Dulles in the 1945 year. So, information about this plan was received by the Soviet special services in the 1947 year, as evidenced by the diary entries of L.P. Beria from April 23 to 1947 of the year. He emphasized that “interesting materials came from America. They couldn’t take us by force, they want to decompose us from the inside. They write directly, they will fight for people from childhood, they will corrupt our literature and art and will find assistants and like-minded people inside Russia for this. ”
              1. Galaxy
                Galaxy 25 January 2018 17: 03
                +1
                "- How to say, how to say ... - Lakhnovsky shook his head, <...> - <...> Because your head is not filled with what, say, mine. You have not thought about the future. The war will end - everything will somehow settle down And we will throw everything that we have, what we have: all the gold, all the material power to fool and fool people! The human brain, the consciousness of people is capable of change. Having sowed chaos there, we will imperceptibly replace their values ​​with false ones and force them into Believe these false values! How, you ask? How ?!
                Lakhnovsky, as he spoke, began again, for the umpteenth time, to become excited, to run around the room.
                - We will find our like-minded people: our allies and assistants in Russia itself! - frustrated, cried out Lakhnovsky "

                ==========================================

                Do not remind where it comes from? Does this remind you of anything? laughing
                1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
                  Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 25 January 2018 17: 10
                  +2
                  Quote: Galaxy
                  Do not remind where it comes from? Does this remind you of anything?

                  So what. From the point of view of anti-Soviet leaders, the real source of this speech allegedly does not exist. They write that the text of the speech of the director of the CIA is in many respects similar to the statement of the character of the novel “Eternal Call”. Meanwhile:
                  As historian O. Khlobustov writes in his article “Was Dulles’s plan for the USSR a fake?”, Published in the journal “Russian Who is Who” in 2005, “One of the possible sources of information about this document could ... be Alger Hiss, senior presidential administration member Roosevelt and Truman. " According to him, Hiss was accused in the year 1950 of issuing state secrets.
                  In the 1960 years, officers enlisted in the KGB of the USSR got acquainted with this document. So, the Soviet state security officer V.S. Shironin in his book “Under the hood of counterintelligence. The secret background of perestroika ”writes that he well remembers“ his dismay when he familiarized himself with this instruction from the head of the CIA, dated to the end of the forties ”. According to him, it was in the 1968 year when Shironin was offered a job at the KGB Central Office and was "assigned to organize counter-propaganda activities against ideological sabotage."
                  The presence of the Dulles plan was recognized by the former head of the 5th Directorate of the KGB of the USSR, General F.D. Bobkov during his conversation with the rector of the Moscow Humanitarian University I.M. Ilyinsky. According to Bobkov, the document was published. He noted that in 1968, together with the head of foreign intelligence Mortin, he wrote to the Central Committee a "document on the basis of intelligence about the ideological struggle" as they represented it. F.D. Bobkov emphasized that “there was also an instruction from the State Department that the US embassy should be very serious about those who shape public opinion - creative intelligentsia, students”. He drew attention to the fact that "the KGB board met on this occasion."

                  Thus, on the basis of the above facts, it can be argued that the Dulles plan for the moral degradation of the Country of Soviets was indeed developed and is being implemented right up to the present day.
                  https://kprf.ru/party-live/opinion/139745.html
                  1. Galaxy
                    Galaxy 25 January 2018 17: 15
                    +2
                    Especially for you! fellow

                    "I believe in the honesty of the President
                    And into the integrity of the guards,
                    In the care of the bank about customers ...
                    I believe in mermaids, in brownies.

                    I believe in lowering prices
                    What a country is developing
                    What will not change me with a neighbor
                    My beloved wife.

                    Fortuneteller I believe that on the cards
                    For the money will guess me
                    That soon I will live richly
                    And I will be doubly happy.

                    I believe a teacher at school
                    I don’t want to take a bribe at all,
                    That he is children of his own free will
                    On conscience will teach.

                    I believe the insurance office
                    In which the clerks say
                    What if grief happens
                    All losses will be compensated to me.

                    Of course I believe the deputies
                    And to all politicians, yeah,
                    Premiere and his guys,
                    Country stripping naked.

                    I believe that all injections
                    And those pills that give
                    Only tempered willpower
                    And only benefit.

                    I truly believe these people
                    That settled me here
                    That only with them I will be happy ...
                    As where? In the ward number 6! "
                    (Anastasia Kornovan)
                2. Nikolay Fedorov
                  Nikolay Fedorov 26 January 2018 14: 16
                  +5
                  Quote: Galaxy
                  “- How to say, how to say ...” Lakhnovsky shook his head, “because your head is not filled up with what, let’s say, mine. You didn’t think about the future. The war will end - everything will somehow settle down, settle down. And we will quit all that we have, what we have at our disposal: all the gold, all the material power to deceive and fool people! The human brain, the consciousness of people is capable of change. Sowing chaos there, we quietly replace their values ​​with false ones and make them believe these false values! How , you ask? How ?!
                  Lakhnovsky, as he spoke, began again, for the umpteenth time, to become excited, to run around the room.
                  - We will find our like-minded people: our allies and assistants in Russia itself! - frustrated, cried out Lakhnovsky "
                  ==========================================
                  Do not remind where it comes from? Does this remind you of anything?

                  The fact that, for example, the Barbaros plan in various versions has been repeatedly mentioned in so many books and films does not mean that the Barbaros plan did not exist in reality. What made you so confused? And what exactly makes you so excited and seek evidence that Dales’s plan is a fake? You probably selflessly love America?
            6. co-creator
              co-creator 25 January 2018 13: 04
              10
              Quote: Galaxy
              Continue to produce this fake ??? (Dulles plan)

              A fake is not a fake, but the west act exactly according to this plan.
        3. Cube123
          Cube123 25 January 2018 08: 48
          +9
          Quote: Anarchist
          I agree that enough ... But not 15 percent?

          Generally, some nonsense:
          Quote: Article
          About fifteen million people will move from Russia to Latvia and Estonia.

          We recall that the population of the Baltic states is now less than 6 million.
          https://aftershock.news/?q=node/521223&full
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Прибалтика
          What, the Balts themselves will become a national minority there?
          1. IL-18
            IL-18 25 January 2018 09: 30
            13
            Do you know another way to push NATO to the west, except for the military? Only in this way: first we populate the Baltic states, then Poland, then Germany ... Portugal. It is the Germans who are hinting at how to save Europe. A "thinking" minority in the United States.
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 25 January 2018 10: 28
              +4
              Quote: IL-18
              Do you know another way to push NATO to the west, except for the military?

              good
              1. kot28.ru
                kot28.ru 25 January 2018 13: 12
                +3
                Quote: IL-18
                Do you know another way to push NATO to the west, except for the military?

                There it is, this is another HPP lol
                Although some "thinkers" and their fans would do well to send for the cordon! hi
            2. BecmepH
              BecmepH 25 January 2018 11: 24
              +2
              Quote: IL-18
              Do you know another way to push NATO to the west, except for the military? Only in this way: first we populate the Baltic states, then Poland, then Germany ... Portugal. It is the Germans who are hinting at how to save Europe. A "thinking" minority in the United States.

              There are no words! "+"
            3. Korax71
              Korax71 25 January 2018 12: 39
              0
              Siberia and the Far East to populate.
              1. kot28.ru
                kot28.ru 25 January 2018 13: 14
                +3
                Corruptionists together with their families are naturally protected!
                And in the North and in the Far East!
        4. Colleague
          Colleague 25 January 2018 08: 57
          22
          Hurry, all the rats would have already been dumped, got out with their whining!
        5. Yuri Lazarev
          Yuri Lazarev 25 January 2018 09: 03
          +6
          Jew probably ....
        6. Star
          Star 25 January 2018 09: 38
          22
          Patriotism is good, I honor my fathers and grandfathers.
          But amid declining salaries, an increase in millionaires and billionaires in our country does not look patriotic at all.
          You start to feel like a hostage to patriotism with the feeling that once again they just use me in hiding with big words.
          1. Nikolay Fedorov
            Nikolay Fedorov 25 January 2018 13: 15
            12
            Quote: Asterisk
            Patriotism is good, I honor my fathers and grandfathers.
            But amid declining salaries, an increase in millionaires and billionaires in our country does not look patriotic at all.
            You start to feel like a hostage to patriotism with the feeling that once again they just use me in hiding with big words.

            Patriotism is when you lie in the mud all alone at a deserted intersection and wait for the enemy in the sight. You know for sure that after your shot you live for 5-10 seconds, but you can’t leave anywhere. Your comrades died, and the survivors fled, scared. It is unlikely that they will find out about you, they are unlikely to be called a hero. But you are lying, because otherwise you can’t. This is what is called to honor their fathers and grandfathers. And the rest is just a search for profit.
            1. Star
              Star 25 January 2018 18: 34
              +4
              Nikolai, this is heroism, and the patriots go to war to fight for free.
        7. Vladimir K.
          Vladimir K. 25 January 2018 09: 46
          +6
          Do not dissuade - let him go to Miami - he’ll be lucky if they take him to McDonald’s.
        8. Now we are free
          Now we are free 25 January 2018 10: 32
          +7
          "If our enemies scold us, then we are doing everything right." I.V. Stalin ...

          This line was especially amused from Russia towards Latvia and Estonia will move approximately fifteen million human.
          Neither ... myself, I told myself! .. or as they said in one Soviet film - It floods ... By the way, I’m glad that Troitsky is now in free Europe (there is less than one untalented freak), he must have gotten lost here, he had to go to Ukraine right away, he would also teach there # in Russian without propaganda laughing laughing laughing
        9. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 25 January 2018 13: 30
          +7
          I don’t know how many millions there are the fifth column. And who is going to wind up from the country? But I really want to hear:
          Fifth Column Parade - SMYRNO! For the solemn march nafig from Russia battalion, at one linear distance, the first battalion directly, the rest right! Step - MARCH!
      2. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 25 January 2018 07: 52
        13
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        Well, in general, there are enough people who want to go abroad.
        - “Thieves” places Poles-Romanians-Ukrainians-Balts and the protruding “noble” brethren took over. Russians - only with the necessary TAM education and work experience. One or two million barely typed ... So: EVERYTHING FOR ELECTION! And then we will continue to vegetate in our rich country.
        1. Taganai
          Taganai 25 January 2018 09: 39
          +6
          "Russians - only with the necessary TAM education and work experience" - what kind of education and experience are you talking about !? Explain to me a stupid graduate of such a university in demand in the West !? This song is old!)) Yes, Soviet defense experts were in demand! Scientists who worked at the research institute! The lion's share of recent developments is the legacy of the still old Soviet ones. Dusting due to the devastation and mess of the nineties.
          The country's wealth is calculated not by oil and gas, but by the presence of highly educated people, advanced science and production! Change of president from one to another does not affect the size of the state wallet))
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 25 January 2018 10: 35
            +2
            Quote: Taganai
            Taganai

            It seems that there are words, but they are not tied into thought ...
            And yes, “highly educated” is where in ?! I know smart people, I know competent people, I also know woodpeckers with three higher ones.
            1. prior
              prior 25 January 2018 12: 31
              +2
              Do not offend the birds, they are orderlies in the forest. Those you mention are called dolbyotyaty.
            2. 97110
              97110 25 January 2018 13: 51
              +2
              Quote: sogdy
              woodpeckers with the three highest also know.

              Well, and woodpeckers. I met in the orderly ranks of the 455th separate mechanized regiment of civil defense just such, with the top 3, the propagandist of the political department. He stabbed him for reading from the rostrum on a piece of paper. And he heard: “Listen to an experienced person. When you speak on a piece of paper, you will never say anything superfluous!” They are not woodpeckers, but experienced biting crannies.
      3. gaura
        gaura 25 January 2018 08: 33
        11
        Nobody is going to the Baltic states, all this lies. Even Germany is now out of fashion. Now in Moge Scandinavian countries. People in youtube tell each other how impressive they are and still pay good money for nothing. Those. social for the unemployed. If life worsens in Scandinavia, they’ll find something new where you can dream of leaving
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 25 January 2018 10: 40
          0
          Quote: gaura
          where you can dream of leaving

          good
        2. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 25 January 2018 12: 54
          +1
          Quote: gaura
          where you can dream of leaving

          I speak for myself. Always dreamed of living in China, Vietnam or Mongolia. Even about Sev. I thought about Korea ...
          I don’t understand why everyone thinks that it is necessary to go west. For example, Asia attracts me more.
          1. gaura
            gaura 25 January 2018 13: 47
            +1
            In Asia, it is already crowded and no one pays social programs. Why emigration without a significant improvement in living standards
            1. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 25 January 2018 14: 27
              +1
              Quote: gaura
              In Asia it is already crowded and no one pays social programs.

              Perhaps you are right about China in terms of crowding, but the population of Vietnam and Mongolia is not so large locally.
              In Russia, I somehow also especially do not count on social programs. More likely to accumulate. And our banks do not have much trust either.

              Quote: gaura
              Why emigration without a significant improvement in living standards

              I don’t quite agree here - in these Asian countries there are still very few of our people and our business is practically nonexistent (I'm talking about small and medium).
              For example, the Chinese did not know about cream ice cream either, until Putin personally brought it to Pina ... But we still have so much that ice cream that we can offer ... We can say that the above-mentioned countries are not yet plowed virgin lands .
              The main thing is that brains should be and hands should not grow from one place. )
      4. Kisso4kin
        Kisso4kin 25 January 2018 08: 38
        0
        These are the powers
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic 25 January 2018 07: 46
      15
      And you, my friend, just forgot to count wassat ! Like me, I have nowhere and no reason to leave my native country, no matter how it is! Just in the world there will be no other Russia, the former USSR.
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 25 January 2018 09: 05
        +4
        Quote: Herkulesich
        And you, my friend, just forgot to count wassat ! Like me, I have nowhere and no reason to leave my native country, no matter how it is! Just in the world there will be no other Russia, the former USSR.

        I don’t know a joke or a true story, but in the early 90s it slipped:
        "According to an online survey of the Yandex portal, 100% of Russia's population use the Internet." wink
    3. ghby
      ghby 25 January 2018 07: 46
      +6
      Quote: Anarchist
      I wonder where they get these numbers? Where do they have this finger from which they constantly suck something?

      below the belly button.
      Quote: Anarchist
      And why do they suck something out of it?

      habit...
      1. Hammerlock
        Hammerlock 25 January 2018 09: 25
        0
        below the belly button and put their finger on the back
    4. annodomene
      annodomene 25 January 2018 07: 49
      +8
      laughing This is finger number 21. And, yes, I wonder what can attract the Baltic states? It seems that no outstanding actions in the field of industry, art, science from Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia have been reported ...
      1. 97110
        97110 25 January 2018 13: 57
        +1
        Quote: annodomene
        And, yes, I wonder what can attract the Baltic states?

        The quality of human material. There are no such cold-blooded slow-witted people anywhere else. Against their background, the hope for a smart get off is growing ...
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 25 January 2018 07: 58
      15
      Yes, let them go whoever needs it. And we will grow Uzbeks, if that. lol
    6. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 25 January 2018 08: 08
      +9
      Is that so, we have such a large percentage of rats ((15%)) ??? Normal people rally before danger, and only Rats run !!!
    7. Pax tecum
      Pax tecum 25 January 2018 08: 08
      20
      Yes, let them go!
      So they have the means to do this? On the expensive (in every sense) West to leave.
      Only a convincing request! Do not return back, "prisoners of conscience and victims of the regime," ..yat!
      Accordingly, the behavior of such "vulnerable personalities" should be related to them.
      “Once he betrays –– betrays more than once, once he lies –– he lies and twice” ...
      For such people there is a clear and capacious expression - "rats" ...
      Deprive citizenship and free ...
      PS Why didn’t anyone dump normal people over a hill and are not going to? And how did WE endure all the hardships and deprivations of the 90's and 00's, taking upon ourselves both misfortune and need?
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 25 January 2018 08: 26
        11
        So they have the means to do this? On the expensive (in every sense) West to leave. Only a convincing request! Do not return back, "prisoners of conscience and victims of the regime," ..yah! Accordingly, the behavior of such "vulnerable individuals" should be related to them. what are we talking about. The numbers are surprising.
        It is clear that people want to live a better life, but where does such a belief come from that in the west they have already prepared everything for them and are just waiting. I prefer the people who here in Russia are improving around themselves in the area of ​​their responsibility and competence. From tales-hotelok: "Friend-German, his house, car." It turns out that the house is 100 km from work, the car is supported, everything is on credit. A working day of 10 hours, taking into account the road back and forth, what time does it arrive, what time does it arrive?
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 25 January 2018 09: 43
          +3
          where is such faith
          ------------------
          Everything is just a belief in one's own money. As Beaumarchais once said, “Money develops imagination”
        2. 97110
          97110 25 January 2018 13: 59
          +2
          Quote: Balu
          taking into account the road

          How much is a gasoline? The question is not politically correct ...
      2. mult-65
        mult-65 25 January 2018 19: 33
        0
        What are the "hardships and hardships of the 90s"? It was the "HOLY 90s" !!! bully
    8. your1970
      your1970 25 January 2018 08: 18
      11
      that's interesting - what will they do if SUDDENLY will not GDP ("I'm tired, I'm leaving," a serious illness and / or death (God forbid))? Well, let's say this - in principle, the possible ....
      Grudinin will come to power - and for example, will nip the corrupt officials (as the Communist Party promises). He nipped, shot, imprisoned, confiscated. They will gladly go back or scream- "Yes, there is the Gulag !! They put everyone there in a row !!" ???
      Or (relatively speaking !!) Sobchak will win - he will return Crimea, call on advisers from the USA, democracy of the sample 1992-93 ... They will gladly go back or scream- "Yes, there are bandits at every turn !! They kill everyone in a row !! "???

      Those who MORALLY ready to leave - they will leave and 1-2% of them will return (of which life will peck there) ..
      There are emigrants 1-2-3 waves — it seems like the USSR is not there a long time ago — and for some reason they all do not go "to die for their native birches !!".
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 25 January 2018 15: 42
        +4
        Quote: your1970
        There are emigrants 1-2-3 waves — it seems like the USSR is not there a long time ago — and for some reason they all do not go "to die for their native birches !!".

        Just remember that in the USA, for example, before obtaining citizenship, the candidate gives an Oath, in which he renounces his former homeland, and gives a legally confirmed obligation with arms in hand to protect the United States. This is a legally confirmed betrayal. The purpose of this oath is to make man "burn bridges behind him." Returning after this is very difficult.
        1. your1970
          your1970 25 January 2018 16: 05
          +1
          and what? in 90 years they will be caught with the aim of "protect the US. "?? The oath doesn’t let the oath out of Germany / France too? It’s not the oath ... moreover, some of them refused the oath to the tsar or the USSR easily and naturally
          1. Cube123
            Cube123 25 January 2018 16: 11
            +2
            It depends on the person himself. Some are ready to swear 10 times a day. And some take the oath once and for a lifetime. For example, it’s not clear to me how a person who has received American citizenship, renounced his homeland and sworn an oath to another state can retain Russian citizenship?
            1. your1970
              your1970 25 January 2018 18: 04
              0
              Quote: Cube123
              from me, for example, it is not clear how a person who has received American citizenship, renounced his homeland and sworn an oath to another state, can retain Russian citizenship?
              - we do not have dual US-Russian citizenship
              1. Cube123
                Cube123 25 January 2018 19: 48
                +1
                It really is. But I know a lot of people with several nationalities. Standard example: V.V. Posner - has three citizenships: France, USA and Russia. There are many people who have obtained US citizenship and have not handed over a Russian passport. The dual citizenship notice only began to operate in Russia on August 17, 2014.

                Quote: your1970
                Quote: Cube123
                from me, for example, it is not clear how a person who has received American citizenship, renounced his homeland and sworn an oath to another state, can retain Russian citizenship?
                - we do not have dual US-Russian citizenship
        2. tasha
          tasha 25 January 2018 16: 10
          +1
          In the sense of betrayal? A person receives the citizenship of another state. He left one country to live in another for a number of reasons, and made a difficult decision. Whom or what did he betray?
          1. Cube123
            Cube123 25 January 2018 16: 18
            +4
            Quote: tasha
            In the sense of betrayal? A person receives the citizenship of another state. He left one country to live in another for a number of reasons, and made a difficult decision. Whom or what did he betray?

            The text of the oath:
            “I hereby swear that I absolutely and completely renounce loyalty and devotion to any foreign monarch, ruler, state or sovereign authority whose subject or citizen I was until this day; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America from all enemies, external and internal; that I will faithfully serve the United States; that with arms in hand I will fight on the side of the United States, when I will be required to do so by law; that I will be serving in the armed forces of the United States when I will be required to do so by law; that I will do civic work when I will be required to do so by law; and that I take this oath openly, without any second thoughts or intention to evade its fulfillment. God help me. ”

            The only difference is that he received the citizenship of Russia by birthright. And people did not take the oath of Russia. But the oath to another state, the man gave.
            1. tasha
              tasha 25 January 2018 16: 21
              +1
              So what is the question then? If a former citizen, for example, Russia went through the whole procedure and renounced the citizenship of our country, then he has the right to become a citizen of any other country in the world ...
              1. Cube123
                Cube123 25 January 2018 16: 39
                +4
                Quote: tasha
                So what is the question then? If a former citizen, for example, Russia went through the whole procedure and renounced the citizenship of our country, then he has the right to become a citizen of any other country in the world ...

                If everything happens in the sequence you specified, then you are right. In practice, many take the Oath before renouncing Citizenship. And so that they are allowed to take the oath, interviews are held with representatives of the State Department, the FBI and the CIA, where they answer for a long time and in detail the simple question: "How can you help your new homeland?" Whether they will be admitted to the oath depends on what an interesting person tells. And many lay out what is a state secret in their homeland. At the same time, they are still a citizen of the former homeland. And keep this citizenship after !!! Obtaining US Citizenship.
                1. tasha
                  tasha 25 January 2018 16: 44
                  0
                  "I do not know how it is in London ..." :)
                  If our legislation does not in any way limit the possibility of obtaining dual citizenship, let us leave this question to the conscience of our legislators and leaving citizens. You have to live. How stateless? To sit at the airport? The movie "Terminal" was watched :)
                  1. Cube123
                    Cube123 26 January 2018 08: 12
                    +3
                    Quote: tasha
                    "I do not know how it is in London ..." :)
                    If our legislation does not in any way limit the possibility of obtaining dual citizenship, let us leave this question to the conscience of our legislators and leaving citizens. You have to live. How stateless? To sit at the airport? The movie "Terminal" was watched :)

                    The problem is a legal incident. As far as I know, a person cannot be deprived of Russian citizenship if he received it at birth. There is no law prohibiting applying for another Citizenship either. And it turns out: there is a list of countries with which dual citizenship is prohibited in Russia. But, if a person doesn’t renounce Russian citizenship himself, it is impossible to deprive him of citizenship. You can only oblige him to notify him of the dual citizenship. What is valid with us only since 2014.

                    And the question then boils down to: how should I personally relate to a person who grew up with me in the same yard, speaks Russian without an accent and swears allegiance to another State? And there are a lot of such people. A huge part of the fifth column has either received another Citizenship, or wants to do it. And these people work in the media, raise our children ...
    9. nemec55
      nemec55 25 January 2018 08: 20
      +6
      I don’t know, I am an ethnic German, I live in Russia, but the interesting thing is that classmates from Kazakhstan (Kazakhs) and colleagues from the army (Russians) live in Germany
      By the way, in Kazakhstan, there was such an anecdote about opening borders (visa-free). The last Kazakh departing, please turn off the lights at the airport laughing
      Zhirik is right in saying in the State Duma DISCOVER BORDERS AND WE WILL STAY WITHOUT POPULATION
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 25 January 2018 11: 34
        +7
        Quote: nemec55
        Zhirik is right in saying in the State Duma DISCOVER BORDERS AND WE WILL STAY WITHOUT POPULATION

        I will stay with you. Well, so that there was someone to crack in the evening
        1. your1970
          your1970 25 January 2018 12: 58
          +5
          Quote: BecmepH
          Quote: nemec55
          Zhirik is right in saying in the State Duma DISCOVER BORDERS AND WE WILL STAY WITHOUT POPULATION

          I will stay with you. Well, so that there was someone to crack in the evening
          - there are already three of us ..
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 25 January 2018 13: 02
            0
            Quote: your1970
            Quote: BecmepH
            Quote: nemec55
            Zhirik is right in saying in the State Duma DISCOVER BORDERS AND WE WILL STAY WITHOUT POPULATION

            I will stay with you. Well, so that there was someone to crack in the evening
            - there are already three of us ..

            Thump? I do not drink. Although with good people, yes, talking peacefully, I can sometimes afford.
            1. your1970
              your1970 25 January 2018 16: 07
              0
              Quote: BecmepH
              Quote: your1970
              Quote: BecmepH
              Quote: nemec55
              Zhirik is right in saying in the State Duma DISCOVER BORDERS AND WE WILL STAY WITHOUT POPULATION

              I will stay with you. Well, so that there was someone to crack in the evening
              - there are already three of us ..

              Thump? I do not drink. Although with good people, yes, talking peacefully, I can sometimes afford.

              - immediately plump ??? !!! fool
              just a German55, western, and his 1970 - no matter how you twist these three (not two / five !!)
    10. Andrey Panov
      Andrey Panov 25 January 2018 08: 31
      0
      Troitsky, probably, since the children have something and a working finger.
    11. 210ox
      210ox 25 January 2018 08: 35
      +6
      Alexander hi Well, people like Troitsky, Kasparov, etc. there is not a big loss .. But if young scientists leave, then it’s worth considering.
      Quote: Anarchist
      I’m also sitting on suitcases! As soon as work at home appears, normally paid, then go home immediately! It's just that I’m not going to leave anywhere ... They all bishat!
      I wonder where they get these numbers from? Where do they have this finger, from which they constantly suck something? And why do they suck something out of it?
    12. ALEX_SHTURMAN
      ALEX_SHTURMAN 25 January 2018 08: 45
      +7
      It seems to me that we need to stop being surprised at reports from the West: the guys are working according to a given plan, which unfortunately does not apply to us. We have neither strategy, nor ideology, we call them partners Madrid. And what is the Kremlin so loved by the Russians? Who supports the fifth column inside the country? For me, the Kremlin itself is like that: all sorts of radio Echo matzah, television channels rain sponsored by Gazprom, 28 lots of conventional terms, Khodorkovsky released to his mother, Chubais, Skolkovo, Taburetkin, Zakharchenko, and the list goes on .. I would have worked year 3 in the West I do not see anything wrong with this, for some reason, for some people, this becomes a synonym for betrayal ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 25 January 2018 09: 04
        +1
        Rats scatter the air cleaner, we can restore the environment easier.
        Love for the Kremlin, a relative concept, I won’t explain about the choice, there is what it is, we will work and live with what it is.
        Time will tell where and how we are mistaken, but vice versa, how were we right ???
        1. ALEX_SHTURMAN
          ALEX_SHTURMAN 25 January 2018 09: 22
          +1
          Naturally, we will work and live with what we have! If we must die for it! I just want to say that you need to divide people into rats fleeing the country always and dousing it with dirt, and those who want to go learn something new, earn capital to return home and do better!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 25 January 2018 11: 00
            0
            And this argument has already passed on the account of rats running. It was very emotional.
            Rats, traitors. we hear for them constantly and the stench comes from them from behind a mound!
            Calmly, the man left, lives quietly and works where he found it better, what's the question? normal, nothing like that at all!
          2. Korax71
            Korax71 25 January 2018 12: 48
            0
            Sikorsky is also a rat who escaped from the country. Only this never prevents the patriots from hurting their heels in the chest and screaming that he is Russian, proud of his achievements.
    13. krops777
      krops777 25 January 2018 09: 00
      +3
      So, according to the forecasts of some experts, approximately fifteen million people will move from Russia to Latvia and Estonia in the coming years (obviously, in Putin’s new term).


      They are fleeing to countries where they do not consider Russians to be people, I have not heard more delirium from the pro-Western liberal.
      1. True
        True 25 January 2018 09: 30
        +6
        Quote: krops777
        So, according to the forecasts of some experts, approximately fifteen million people will move from Russia to Latvia and Estonia in the coming years (obviously, in Putin’s new term).


        They are fleeing to countries where they do not consider Russians to be people, I have not heard more delirium from the pro-Western liberal.

        Have you heard about the Russian cross? Russian people do not consider in Russia! Those fleeing there are in demand, scientists, athletes, entrepreneurs. Who does not want such a future for their children. And then there will remain an ortka and unfortunate lackeys, without prospects. Livestock that can be crushed by machines, take everything away, humiliate absolutely with impunity.
        P.S. Do you think many patriots in Bangladesh? What are they proud of, for what value their country? And in the USA?
        1. krops777
          krops777 25 January 2018 09: 59
          0
          Those fleeing there are in demand, scientists, athletes, entrepreneurs. Who does not want such a future for their children.


          I still understand in Germany, France, America, but to the impoverished Baltic countries 15 million people are already dismissed. About the Russian cross heard no need to exaggerate.
          1. Freeman
            Freeman 25 January 2018 12: 13
            0
            krops777 Today, 09:59
            I still understand in Germany, France, America, but to the impoverished Baltic countries 15 million people are already dismissed.

            The Baltic states are a “springboard” to the European Union, and it’s relatively cheap compared to how to go “directly”.
            So, for information.
            A foreigner can invest in the development of an Estonian company in the amount of 65 thousand euros and immediately receive a 5-year residence permit. It is allowed to invest shares or property in an equivalent amount.

            The second option is to open your own company, and after 4 months apply for a residence permit, while investing at least 16 thousand euros. This money can only be held in an Estonian bank account. Fees and other expenses will require a couple more thousand euros, and if the legal organization deals with the cases, then you need to pay an average of another 5 thousand.

            This type of business activity gives the right to obtain a residence permit for a period of 2 years, and then renew for 5 years. The owner of the company can buy real estate, land, vehicles.

            In the second option, you have a chance to become a resident of the European Union at the price of an average foreign car.
            Threat. I’m not going to leave anywhere myself and I was not going to.
        2. sogdy
          sogdy 25 January 2018 10: 58
          0
          Quote: True
          Do you think many patriots in Bangladesh?

          Bangladesh is not where the Tamil Ilama Tigers are?
          1. Freeman
            Freeman 25 January 2018 12: 19
            0
            sogdy today, 10:58
            Bangladesh is not where the Tamil Ilama Tigers are?

            No. This is Sri Lanka (Ceylon).
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 25 January 2018 15: 53
              +1
              Quote: Freeman
              No. This is Sri Lanka (Ceylon).

              Accurate!
              But India also fought with Bangladesh. And somehow they were called Kaki-sidhi (= separatists).
    14. Yuriy71
      Yuriy71 25 January 2018 09: 03
      +4
      And this is not a finger at all! Do you really not know where the Tolerasts suck from? )))
    15. 44Serega44
      44Serega44 25 January 2018 09: 14
      +3
      That's right you say, and the finger from which they suck it out there)))). After all, so often and for a long time they are applied to it. ))))) Well, let it go. it's all hypertolerant and traditional european. We barbarians do not understand. Like Attilla did not understand))))))))))) (this is my opinion, which I have the right to express, according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation). )))))))))))))))))))))))))
    16. shaman1602
      shaman1602 25 January 2018 09: 38
      0
      it’s known where they have a finger like all gay people in ...
    17. kapitan92
      kapitan92 25 January 2018 09: 38
      +4
      Quote: Anarchist
      I wonder where they get these numbers?

      About "Levada Center" was a discussion at VO last year. It's time to put these freaks on their suitcases, but it's easier to put them without suitcases. laughing
    18. Evil543
      Evil543 25 January 2018 10: 51
      +2
      And you dear Anarchist, laughing as the main corrupt official of our site, you need to run, even without a suitcase
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 26 January 2018 00: 15
        +5
        Please justify! How do I take bribes, especially on the site?
        You need to answer for the bazaar!
        1. Evil543
          Evil543 26 January 2018 06: 12
          +1
          We are not in the market, and not in the zone. Like your rating for a million, with your comments. You straight unique case hi
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 26 January 2018 07: 12
            +5
            Dear, envy is a mortal sin! yes
            1. Evil543
              Evil543 26 January 2018 07: 33
              +1
              This is not envy, but the fight against corruption stop
              1. Anarchist
                Anarchist 26 January 2018 08: 31
                +5
                And how do you fight it?
                And the fact of corruption, in my face, still needs to be proved! Nobody has yet canceled the presumption of innocence! I’m not caught by a thief ... But honestly, I don’t understand how it can be done here at all ... Maybe enlighten?
    19. Cxnumx
      Cxnumx 25 January 2018 10: 57
      +1
      Quote: Anarchist
      Where do they have this finger from which they constantly suck something?

      Levada Center, Inagent. You can not read further.
    20. RASKAT
      RASKAT 25 January 2018 11: 00
      0
      Well, I don’t know, I don’t know, in my opinion, a wave of frantic migration took place in our country in 90, when everyone fell for everyone, to Israel, America, etc. Just one of them, probably, 80% came back. Looks like life and work there did not really like.
      Well, where we do not. bully
    21. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 25 January 2018 11: 11
      +2
      I quote Anarchist: Where do they have this finger from which they constantly suck something? And why do they suck something out of it? Mean Russophobia? The finger from which it is sucked is the xiphoid process of the transatlantic hosts. And for what purpose they suck, are it really incomprehensible, they suck for money - a peculiar form of prostitution.
    22. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 25 January 2018 11: 24
      +2
      Quote: Anarchist
      I’m also sitting on suitcases! As soon as work at home appears, normally paid, then go home immediately! It's just that I’m not going to leave anywhere ... They all bishat!
      I wonder where they get these numbers from? Where do they have this finger, from which they constantly suck something? And why do they suck something out of it?

      "This finger" / 21st / is probably located across the ocean, at Mackain, between the legs.
    23. 97110
      97110 25 January 2018 13: 27
      +1
      Quote: Anarchist
      And why do they suck something out of it?

      I want to eat ...
    24. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 25 January 2018 13: 39
      +2
      Quote: Anarchist
      They are all crazy!

      Well I do not know.
      Our friends recently left for permanent residence in Austria.
      The husband worked in the City Administration.
      The wife is a German teacher.
      The son of a schoolboy. Here are three people who have already moved. I’ll explain right away that the family is average in income, without additional “incomes”. The move initiative was the wife of a friend. She found a good job in the company as a translator and did not crawl out of Germany. So ripe.
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 25 January 2018 14: 01
        +3
        Other friends gather in Spain for permanent residence.
        Husband designer, earns very well here.
        Wife is a housewife.
        Daughter schoolgirl.
        It seems that everything is fine with them, but they are still going to leave. It turns out three more.
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 25 January 2018 07: 43
    +9
    15 million people are sitting on suitcases, another 15 million are standing next to suitcases, 15 million are also in their hands wassat ! Soon, there will be nothing left in the country except empty magozines for the sale of suitcases! !! wassat
  3. cobalt
    cobalt 25 January 2018 07: 45
    20
    And let's congratulate Estonia, soon they will have the largest university in the world, 15 million teachers and media startups, Estonia will heal. laughing
    1. teron
      teron 25 January 2018 12: 29
      0
      If 15 million Russians move to Estonia, it will no longer be Estonia.
  4. Colonel
    Colonel 25 January 2018 07: 45
    +6
    Oleg, what was that?
    1. askort154
      askort154 25 January 2018 08: 05
      +1
      colonel .....Leg, what was that?

      Looks like "Oleg" pereobulsya. This is not his first smelly article. yes
      1. Don
        Don 25 January 2018 10: 37
        +6
        Quote: askort154
        Looks like "Oleg" pereobulsya. This is not his first stinky little article.

        So they would write their own, more real article. For example, about how educated successful people, scientists, doctors, businessmen from developed countries such as Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, etc. go to Russia for a good life. Well, what, we would support the article, would like, in the comments would write that our authorities are great.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 25 January 2018 08: 27
      +3
      Quote: colonel
      Oleg, what was that?

      Pyundezh from the stables of the position.
  5. klas000000
    klas000000 25 January 2018 07: 48
    +2
    Quote: Anarchist
    I’m also sitting on suitcases! As soon as work at home appears, normally paid, then go home immediately! It's just that I’m not going to leave anywhere ... They all bishat!
    I wonder where they get these numbers from? Where do they have this finger, from which they constantly suck something? And why do they suck something out of it?


    Well, about the finger - it's very simple ... But about the brains here is much more complicated.
  6. -ш-
    -ш- 25 January 2018 07: 48
    +4
    well, elections are coming soon, and so everything is clear
  7. Fedorov
    Fedorov 25 January 2018 07: 49
    17
    Fifteen percent of Russian citizens are sitting on their suitcases.

    I neighing to myself. Oh, these sorrow forecasters.
    But. That many in Ukraine are sitting on their suitcases, so this is true.
    For example, I have long been skiing to Russia for homeland has pricked up, but only the FMS is sick of it sad
  8. ghby
    ghby 25 January 2018 07: 52
    +9
    Radio and television presenter Artemy Troitsky is now a professor at Tallinn University.
    I wonder what teaches?
    So, according to the forecasts of some experts, in the coming years (obviously, in the new Putin’s term), about fifteen million people will move from Russia to Latvia and Estonia. All these people will become real migrants, that is, those who will constantly live abroad. And it will be "young scientists, entrepreneurs, cultural figures."

    damn, latvia about 2 million people. Estonia about 1,5 million people these 15 million people after they settle there will hold a referendum and by majority vote in the Russian Federation wassat
    And something as an example, some media professionals.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 25 January 2018 08: 29
      +7
      Trinity professor? In which discipline? "Actual problems of the formation and development of rocknrol in Russia under the bloody regime of gebni"? This is his whole life theme.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 25 January 2018 10: 58
        +5
        Quote: Balu
        Trinity professor?

        laughing wassat Everything is simpler - an ordinary snob and redneck. Yes, there was a time when Tyoma stumbled barefoot across Leningrad, bearded and with port under his arm, yeah. There is such a category of people, in particular, in the world of rock - they themselves can’t do anything, they didn’t even hold a tool in their hands, but the first “critics” and, part-time, party-goers. Well, if with connections, then all the tough guys. yes
    2. Hammerlock
      Hammerlock 25 January 2018 09: 41
      +6
      Troitsky has always been a vile bastard, I still remember his articles from the magazine "Peer"
    3. Freeman
      Freeman 25 January 2018 12: 44
      0
      ghby Today, 07:52 AM New
      Radio and television presenter Artemy Troitsky is now a professor at Tallinn University.
      I wonder what teaches?

      Here you are.
      Artemy Troitsky, a well-known Russian music critic who moved to Estonia, began to give a course of lectures on subcultures of the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries in Russia. The course is called "Dandy, Decembrists and others."
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 25 January 2018 17: 26
        +1
        Trinity is a subculture professor ?! wassat wassat wassat wassat
        What will he do when the contract is over? Although the processor in the subculture understands, it will adapt. I just can’t understand how the Decembrists have anything to do with the 19-20 century subculture? belay
  9. Same lech
    Same lech 25 January 2018 07: 57
    +9
    15 million will leave in the coming years

    belay 15 million ... and why not 15 milliards at once ...
    The Levada Center juggles with numbers as it wants ... hehe heh in the coming years ...
    what are these years? ... 5..10..15 ... 150 years ... you already lie more specifically ...
    Au Levada Center ... take advanced training courses ... lies ... you lose your grip.
    1. Romulus
      Romulus 25 January 2018 08: 10
      +5
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Au Levada Center ... take advanced training courses
      VTsIOM
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 25 January 2018 11: 05
        +3
        Quote: Romulus
        VTsIOM

        At the source - the Gallup Institute.
  10. pvv113
    pvv113 25 January 2018 07: 58
    +5
    fifteen percent of Russian citizens are sitting on their suitcases

    What kind of nonsense?
    1. ghby
      ghby 25 January 2018 08: 08
      +5
      Quote: pvv113
      What kind of nonsense?

      Well, not really nonsense wassat we have such a tradition to sit on the track, so we went to relatives in the Urals, sat on the track, someone on a suitcase. So there are many of us in Russia, and constantly someone is moving somewhere around the country. But the truth is 15% and a lot, usually they don’t sit on their suitcases, these are only those who did not have enough space. wassat
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 25 January 2018 10: 02
        +1
        Levada Center data

        Agents of the adversary again confused God's gift with fried eggs
  11. SNEAKY
    SNEAKY 25 January 2018 08: 01
    +2
    Quote: Fedorov
    Fifteen percent of Russian citizens are sitting on their suitcases.

    I neighing to myself. Oh, these sorrow forecasters.
    But. That many in Ukraine are sitting on their suitcases, so this is true.
    For example, I have long been skiing to Russia for homeland has pricked up, but only the FMS is sick of it sad

    Yeah. These Western pro-gangsters are still funny. They also leave the Belarusians in droves. And half of the total number in the Russian Federation is necessary. Or maybe all this is natural migration and Putin’s policies are far-fetched? Well, or sucked ... laughing Although no, crowds of highly qualified personnel daily roll on inflatable boats and mattresses to the hero of the article. How can one not shout “Envy Putin” wassat
  12. NKVD
    NKVD 25 January 2018 08: 03
    +1
    In the villages for a long time sitting on suitcases to leave on a shift
  13. Vard
    Vard 25 January 2018 08: 05
    +1
    These rating agencies do not crawl out of the courts ... Somehow it’s impolite that they have recently gotten ratings ...
  14. edeligor
    edeligor 25 January 2018 08: 10
    +7
    "Blew" - you can not read further. I agree on something - about the change of power. Fed up with these faces and the "triumphant" of the broadcast with or without. And the rest ... for me personally, my children, and my friends, the future is here in Russia. And yet, it became clear where the Baltic states suddenly had a steady phobia about the "hordes of Russians" and those who wanted to take them into slavery - let them continue to take "cream" These are young scientists, entrepreneurs, cultural workers. They have the feeling of such a cold civil war. ” give them professors, etc.
    The Orthodox Taliban also smiled about running out of resources - spring has not yet begun, and the guys have already worsened ...
  15. Observer2014
    Observer2014 25 January 2018 08: 11
    14
    Russians are fleeing Russia: 15% of citizens are sitting on suitcases, 15 millions will leave in the coming years
    It’s okay Putin and the United Russia brought in, will bring. All of Central Asia and country Caucasus we have fenced off.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 25 January 2018 08: 16
      +2
      Yes, yes, people like you believe exclusively in propaganda horrors. Correctly, Stalin in the war immediately ordered all radios to be removed, with illnesses that only listen to the enemy, that's right.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 25 January 2018 08: 23
        +7
        EvilLion
        Yes, people like you believe solely propaganda horrors ...
        You probably know better from the moon. I live on Earth in Russia. I go to work in public transport, etc. Buy a more powerful telescope hi
  16. Victor N
    Victor N 25 January 2018 08: 13
    +4
    What smoked, Dude? Will millions of scientists move to the Baltic states? But where in Russia to score a little!
  17. EvilLion
    EvilLion 25 January 2018 08: 15
    +3
    Nemchura would rather attend to her demography.
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 25 January 2018 08: 34
      +2
      That's right, soon they, together with their pioneer-Telmanka Merkel, will put on their turban and hijabs, and instead of “HAYL ...” they will shout “ALLAH AKBAR”. The provocateurs who have preoccupied with our “demography,” aren't it possible that the possessed Adolf himself leads them from the afterlife ?!
      1. Don
        Don 25 January 2018 10: 49
        +2
        Quote: kartalovkolya
        That's right, soon they, together with their pioneer-Telmanka Merkel, will put on their turban and hijabs, and instead of “HAYL ...” they will shout “ALLAH AKBAR”. The provocateurs who have preoccupied with our “demography,” aren't it possible that the possessed Adolf himself leads them from the afterlife ?!

        Contradict yourself. If Hitler himself leads them from the underworld, then the Germans will not put on hijabs, but rather the whole world will shout hail .. Or do you think that Hitler converted to Islam in the afterlife? But seriously, don’t look at Solovyov and Kiselyov and don’t read Soviet newspapers for the night. Then the Germans will not laugh at you with laughter from stories about the terrible life in Germany and about its imminent end.
  18. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 January 2018 08: 15
    +4
    Radio and television presenter Artemy Troitsky is now a professor at Tallinn University.

    The more any riffraff will leave, the better! Found an example - roosofoba trinity laughing laughing laughing
  19. welder
    welder 25 January 2018 08: 17
    +7
    At a housemate, a son lives in Germany. My son specializes in analytical mathematics. Of the 27 classmates after the institute in Russia, 3 people remained ((((.
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 25 January 2018 11: 11
      +1
      Quote: welder
      specialty analytical mathematics

      I didn’t try to find out what kind of gop this is with a bow? This is called a "person without a specialty", it is not even an analyst or a computer.
      1. welder
        welder 25 January 2018 15: 42
        0
        OK. at the meeting I will ask him in more detail.
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 25 January 2018 16: 11
          +1
          Google knows only analytic geometry. Taki is a tool for professionals. But a tool specialist is still a very limited need. And extremely rarely applied.
          There is also a mathematical analysis. Again - a tool. And for use, you need an applied specialty. Even development is carried out within the framework of applied specialties.
          For quite a short time, the section "Algebra and Analysis" existed - Lie algebras, matlingvistics.
          If you did not confuse the name of the specialty, then the person was greatly deceived during training.
      2. welder
        welder 25 January 2018 15: 47
        0
        maybe of course something http://www.pm298.ru/manalit.php from this area or something related to math analysis or computational mathematics.
    2. Victor N
      Victor N 25 January 2018 11: 21
      0
      This is pure water wrecking! Do not communicate with this neighbor, from the fifth column of sleeping.
  20. shubin
    shubin 25 January 2018 08: 19
    +4
    And if without jokes? Imagine a miracle happened, and canceled visas to the EU, I don’t want to go, with the right to work. How many Russian citizens will then tear over the hill? Maybe more than 15%. I live in Lithuania, in words all patriots are here too, but a third of the population has already fallen.
    1. zyzx
      zyzx 25 January 2018 09: 26
      +4
      Why all of a sudden? I’m working as a pre-school student in an ordinary municipal hospital, in the month of a month, I pay 500 euros for your money, I wash the toilet for 1000 for you, and even for 5000 I don’t go.
    2. sogdy
      sogdy 25 January 2018 11: 15
      +1
      Every six months, your Pshek emissaries come to our Poles. Like everything is all right. Pensive people are leaving.
      And phrases go forever ...
  21. Enoch
    Enoch 25 January 2018 08: 20
    +5
    "Russians flee from Russia"
    Thank God that the Russians remain!
    And the Russians to their homeland in the promised land or in London and the United States.
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 25 January 2018 11: 26
      0
      Ay, they said beautifully! Nobody has yet managed to convince me that the Russians are leaving. Russian-speaking - yes, but Russian-only by force.
  22. Million
    Million 25 January 2018 08: 23
    +3
    In terms of numbers, of course they lie, but there is some truth in the article. Everyone wants a decent life and at least some order in the state
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 25 January 2018 11: 19
      +1
      Quote: Million
      decent life and at least some order in the state

      Read the classics. Tolstoy, Alexey Konstantinovich, History of Russia ...
      Well, at least you will avoid certain turns of speech.
      And then it’s not clear - you seriously err.
      1. Million
        Million 25 January 2018 16: 02
        0
        Crest or what?
    2. Victor N
      Victor N 25 January 2018 11: 28
      0
      Good owners in the house restore order, and not run away to neighbors.
      1. Million
        Million 25 January 2018 16: 01
        +2
        For "restoring order" will give a long term
  23. samarin1969
    samarin1969 25 January 2018 08: 24
    +4
    Well, if they dump 15 million budget bugs, it will be good. The professionalism of these people consists only in the talent to look for holes in the tax system and look for "suckers" among consumers. These are those "figures" of business and "art" who in the 90s, suddenly (!), Felt the "call of their ancestors" and left for "abroad". Then they returned to "mow the greens." Now the US Treasury Department is conducting an audit of the trustworthiness of the residents of the Russian Federation. So the big and small "rogue investors" ran ...
    This is all not important. The main thing is who will steer the rest: another comprador or statesman?
  24. shura7782
    shura7782 25 January 2018 08: 24
    +2
    Yes, Oleg is. Russia suffers non-combat losses. Being determines consciousness. There are people who wish the "tablecloth path", but there are not many of these. It so happened that all these emigrants will work for the enemy state and give them soldiers for the army.
  25. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 25 January 2018 08: 25
    +4
    15 million - one in ten, including infants. From the article of this "das finger" and rushing ordering and bourgeois stupidity. 2084 year already pulled by the ears. And without Trinity and coachmen, the air in Russia is cleaner, and these freaks are not 15 million. We should give them a couple of "philosophical" steamboats, let them knock while the bloody gebnya did not rage at all.
  26. Professor
    Professor 25 January 2018 08: 26
    +6
    The article is not patriotic at all. It smacks of provocation. wink

    More than 15 millions are ready to leave Russia, but even 15 will not leave. Who and where is waiting for them?

    PS
    http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/2006/0251/analit01
    . Php

    https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2016/1
    0 / 06 / 659896-iz-rossii-uezzhaet
    1. spirit
      spirit 25 January 2018 09: 25
      +1
      I have familiar entrepreneurs, those who are leaving aren’t going to Europe and the Baltic states, but to Asians) there the market is growing until no one has returned wink
      1. Professor
        Professor 25 January 2018 10: 24
        +1
        Quote: spirit
        I have familiar entrepreneurs, those who are leaving aren’t going to Europe and the Baltic states, but to Asians) there the market is growing until no one has returned wink

        It is clear that they are leaving, but today there is not a single market capable of accommodating 15 one million Russians.

        It is surprising that in terms of the number of repatriates to Israel (if you want emigrants), stable Russia is not the leader in war-ravaged Ukraine.
        http://newsru.co.il/israel/08jan2018/rep2017.html
        New immigrants and returning Israelis travel to Israel mainly from four countries: Russia, Ukraine, France and the United States. 7188 people came to Israel from Russia, which continues to be in first place in the number of repatriates (2016 in the 7192 year), from Ukraine - 7161 (last year - 5994), from France - 3389 (last year - 4802), from the USA - 2929 people (last year - 3150).
        1. Victor N
          Victor N 25 January 2018 11: 39
          +1
          I can’t imagine a smart person traveling to a country doomed to fight forever. Drainage however.
          1. Professor
            Professor 25 January 2018 18: 18
            +2
            Quote: Victor N
            I can’t imagine a smart person traveling to a country doomed to fight forever. Drainage however.

            Well why. I wouldn’t be so categorical in your place and would not call all fools going to Russia.
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  27. Tss012
    Tss012 25 January 2018 08: 27
    +1
    What is the author reasoning about? Levada Center receives funding from over the hill.
  28. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 25 January 2018 08: 27
    +2
    The author himself is one of those "AUTHORITY PEOPLE" WHICH HOW THE DOG IS SLEEP AND SEE RUSSIA UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE BUTCHERS FROM "FASHINGTON" AND HIMSELF ON POST IN THE OCCUPATIONAL ADMINISTRATION! And what kind of "honest" experts did this scribe introduce, and even the most deceitful and corrupt "experts" from the Levada Center, and that’s it ...
  29. bald
    bald 25 January 2018 08: 32
    0
    Subtitle tuften, not without appropriate supply. Clear business - preparation for elections. Those who wanted to leave were long gone. And now the usual, natural emigration. For ordinary reasons. Jews to Israel (belated), to Germany a generation of captured Germans, to the states at the call of relatives, and at the expense of the Baltic states - that’s how it is, it sees it from far away, the reasonable one will not go there. Here with the antagonism of the article, I completely agree.
  30. Indifferent
    Indifferent 25 January 2018 08: 32
    +2
    I think Bloomberg provides much more truthful information! The author clearly went into the wrong corner. And the Balts will not be able to gain 15 million jobs. Where will they get them from? About 8 million of them live there, including centennial old women and suckers. Well, the fact that people who know how to work is coming down from the country is understandable. Open an emergency is almost impossible. Officials will devour taxes and other requisitions. And it’s not possible with loans of 20%. After all, all the extra money from oil is not distributed in the form of interest-free loans to the population, and it is spent on American treasuries, almost without interest either. This is how our government works. If for some reason you managed to get out and your company worked, other people will come with a court order that this is not your company and you need to “pick it up”. And they will take it. And since they do not know how to control due to the poverty of their minds, they will ruin and abandon them. That is why people are fleeing the country. No work or need to rest on a penny. There are no social elevators. It is impossible to create your own emergency. The country has long become non-native to the population. Leaders powder their brains with “love” for people, but everything remains only in words. Serious work is not and is not planned. Well, the elections do not solve anything when 80% of United Russia sits in the Duma. Suppose Grudinin defeated. So if he does not pursue the same policy, he will be eaten much faster and more efficiently than Trump in the USA. Putin has at least authority and some friends in power, while Grudinin’s nothing at all. None of his government will be approved by the Duma! And Washington is even more so.
    1. zyzx
      zyzx 25 January 2018 09: 29
      +2
      Yeah, only we have full permissiveness and 90% don’t open anything at all and don’t pay taxes, taking 100% of our profit. Where else is such a miracle possible, where the unemployed take out of the hut 500000 cash thieves.
  31. tchoni
    tchoni 25 January 2018 08: 33
    0
    As they say, there are three types of lies: outright lies, half-truths and statistics.
    The article is very provocative. Moreover, this "to the election"))) I think that it is not worth taking it seriously. Even if only because it’s not com il fo to go to the Baltic states where there is no work for sensible Russians.
    Yes, among people who earn in Russia there is a certain dissatisfaction with the situation that has developed in Russia. The first, of course, is the lack of intelligible rules of the game. Everything flows, everything changes after the change of personalities in the bureaucratic apparatus of the country. The second, sorry for the banality and low calm - the lack of financial stability and the ability to make savings in domestic currency. It’s very difficult, you know, to feel like part of a great Russia, when all your grandmothers are in a Swiss bank, and even in dollars. Well, that’s not all.
    The third
    "I do not see in a country like Russia, a future for our children."
    And this is the same problem. Dad, who is used to spinning and squeezing status into a “civilization” (who doesn’t understand, we read Orwell), naturally does not want this for his children. So the guys look in the outskirts in the hope that the grass is greener there (often it’s really like that. For a person who has been educated at Harvard, this is a man who has been educated at Harvard. They don’t brush him off for interviews).
  32. Livonetc
    Livonetc 25 January 2018 08: 34
    +1
    Quote: nemec55
    I don’t know, I am an ethnic German, I live in Russia, but the interesting thing is that classmates from Kazakhstan (Kazakhs) and colleagues from the army (Russians) live in Germany
    By the way, in Kazakhstan, there was such an anecdote about opening borders (visa-free). The last Kazakh departing, please turn off the lights at the airport laughing
    Zhirik is right in saying in the State Duma DISCOVER BORDERS AND WE WILL STAY WITHOUT POPULATION

    Zhirik is that parasite that exists due to divorce.
    I will never forget "every woman for a man, every man for vodka."
    How is it possible to vote for a man despising the people of his country.
    Due to the fact that such entities make their way massively up to the country and live extremely mediocre.
    And the borders have long been open.
    All pseudo-businessmen and "effective" managers would leave, the country would come to life.
    But no filthy broom can drive them out.
    These creatures are not needed anywhere.
    There are enough parasites everywhere.
    And normal people live humanly in their homeland and only go on business trips or on a tourist route.
  33. Yuri Guliy
    Yuri Guliy 25 January 2018 08: 40
    +4
    15 percent? - Although it is less, it’s a shame that among them there are not very many drug addicts, alcoholics and perverts with spoiled genetics and low IQ.
    Unfortunately, young people with an intelligence factor above average want to leave and leave.
  34. jonht
    jonht 25 January 2018 08: 41
    0
    As for me, gathered and ... good riddance! The more of these pseudo "patriots" dumped (to love the homeland from far away), the easier, and easier it will be for us here. To be honest, I probably would have forcibly evicted some particularly "gifted" ....
  35. alavrin
    alavrin 25 January 2018 08: 42
    0
    You never know who wants where. The fact that 15% wants to leave is normal. In any Western European country - about the same level, and sometimes slightly higher. I’m not talking about Eastern Europe. In the Baltic states - about 40, in Poland also about 15, in Nazi Ukraine - 35% ... But he wants it, it doesn’t mean maybe there are wet dreams, but there is the harsh truth of life.
  36. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 25 January 2018 08: 44
    0
    Millions of Russians are eager for Europe

    Well, yes, the evil NKVD officers let them in, poison dogs
    1. gukoyan
      gukoyan 25 January 2018 09: 02
      +1
      No, there’s just nothing to leave for ...
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 25 January 2018 12: 13
        0
        Quote: gukoyan
        No, there’s just nothing to leave for ...

        those who don’t have anything to leave are unlikely to even think about it, but those who are not working burn money in night clubs just squeal
  37. high
    high 25 January 2018 08: 46
    0
    Rich Russia in terms of living takes 90th place, next to the poor countries of the world ....
    https://newsland.com/community/129/content/reitin
    g-stran-mira-po-urovniu-zhizni-v-2017-godu / 578889
    3
    1. alavrin
      alavrin 25 January 2018 08: 58
      +2
      These ratings are far-fetched. These are on the 90th, US News and World Report a couple of days ago - at 26, and some Lviv newspaper "In memory of Shukhevych" will definitely put us at 160 ...) So what?
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 January 2018 12: 14
      +1
      Quote: alta
      Rich Russia in terms of living takes 90th place, next to the poor countries of the world ....

      well, you still had enough money to grow and learn from the Country
  38. Irokez
    Irokez 25 January 2018 08: 47
    +2
    It is precisely because of the permanent power that many Russians feel as if they are being imprisoned.

    As I understand it, Grandma Merkel has already made a concentration camp from Germany. She is unchanged like Putin. And indeed, many of the remaining kings and queens of Europe must be changed for a long time (they are dictators with pocket, elected prime ministers or presidents).
  39. Colleague
    Colleague 25 January 2018 08: 56
    +1
    Hurry, all the rats would have already been dumped, got out with their whining!
  40. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 25 January 2018 08: 57
    +3
    There are probably such ones, but not only 15%, but about 1,5% (most of House 2 and its fans). The flag of the colors of the rainbow in their hands, a feather in them .. and a fair wind! European employers are simply waiting for these "hard workers". And yes - Ksyushad put at the head of this outcome!
  41. gukoyan
    gukoyan 25 January 2018 09: 00
    +4
    I agree, I am also tired of this poverty, rip-off, tax payments in the pocket of officials, low salaries, stupid laws, paid medicine, a low level of education, overpriced prices, the future beggarly pension, if it will, of course, and other nonsense, this year already I’m wondering if I should sell all my small property that I have, and not topple out of this “generous and rich” country, which helps everyone except my people, say where to the thread to Saudi Arabia ... It stops only the lack of a foreign country and not knowledge language (
  42. ankon
    ankon 25 January 2018 09: 01
    +8
    I agree with the author, the country is not developing! The people, especially the younger generation, do not see prospects in Russia. President Putin and his inner circle care only about themselves! They have lost conscience, the concept of honor and justice. One example. It is known that monthly maintenance of the head of Gazprom, Alexei Miller, costs the Russian budget 83,2 million rubles. Now compare this huge figure. 83,2 million rubles a month is:
    - 350 years of work as an ordinary teacher in a school or university.
    - 280 years of work as an ordinary doctor in the regions.
    - 200 years of work as a miner.
    - 140 years as a professor at Moscow State University.
    Let me remind you that the salaries of the management of Gazprom, Rosneft and other companies are paid by taxes of ordinary citizens of Russia! These are state-owned enterprises, their work must be controlled by the state, and our “irreplaceable” President does not see anything.
    Three years ago, when Bulgaria refused to accept South Stream pipes, Gazprom paid a penalty to the Italian company for 1 (One) billion Euros. Upon accidentally learning about this, he wrote to President Putin V.V. on the punishment of the head of Gazprom. For negligence, ill-conceived action. And no reaction! After all, with this money it was possible to solve the problem of kindergartens in the country. I urge people to send the president to retire, the age of more than 65 years allows. Today is the birthday of Vladimir Vysotsky. Congratulations to all the readers of VO.
    25.01.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX. Regards, Anatoly. SPb.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 January 2018 10: 16
      0
      And you do not compare the head of the largest company in Russia with teachers, doctors and miners - it’s one thing to manage a huge company, with a staff of a million people, it’s another thing to treat, train and mine. “From the Russian budget” - this is how this company brings several hundred billion rubles of taxes to the budget and Miller receives most of his money from dividends for the year.
      1. ankon
        ankon 25 January 2018 17: 03
        +1
        I do not compare. I’m saying that the country does not develop under such management! Power mocks the people of Russia. There is no such ratio in wages anywhere in the world.
  43. Bypassed
    Bypassed 25 January 2018 09: 01
    +2
    This is not at all funny.
    The luring of specialists from the EAEU to the Baltic states (and other countries) is in full swing. Brief excerpt from the report (figures on the relocation of specialists and specific requirements for immigrants in this information for certain reasons are not given), sent to a higher organization
    “It should be noted that a number of states, such as Holland, Denmark, France
    and Israel, in order to attract additional income to the economy of their countries, passed laws called “Startup Visas”. Such laws provide certain benefits, both financial and migration, for foreigners who want to organize startups in these countries.
    In 2016, the Lithuanian Seimas approved amendments to the law “On the Legal Status of Foreigners”, which legitimize a start-up visa, and provide Lithuanian employers with the opportunity to easily employ the right specialists outside the EU. Amendments to the law, initiated by the Invest Lithuania Foreign Investment Development Agency, entered into force on January 1, 2017. A separate procedure has been created for startups in which they are separated from the rest of the applicants. Amendments to the law provide for startups to issue a temporary residence permit in Lithuania for a period of one year with the possibility of extending it for another year. In two years, the foreigner will be able to apply for a temporary residence permit in Lithuania as the head of the enterprise or shareholder on the basis of legal activities. A start-up visa will be issued up to 2 months in a general manner or up to 1 month urgently. Startup Lithuania adopted a conceptual strategy to enhance its advertising activities in the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation.
    Startup Lithuania contributes to this policy by the fact that the Register Center and the Lithuanian Migration Department have signed an agreement that will reduce the time for issuing temporary residence permits and visas for foreign entrepreneurs. The experience of Lithuania has been carefully studied by Estonia and Latvia, and they are also currently amending their legislation aimed at openly enticing experts from the EAEU countries. ”
    Regarding the financing of science in the Russian Federation - this is how the Russian doctor of medical sciences, neurophysiologist Savelyev has it. Who cares - google.
    Maybe they move because they want to be called people? Or can only residents of Londongrad live well?
    1. bratchanin3
      bratchanin3 25 January 2018 09: 22
      +2
      Yeah, the Russians massively rushed to the Baltics in the Baltic states - yes this is bullshit! Liberastas wishful thinking.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 25 January 2018 10: 16
      +1
      Quote: PASSED BY
      The luring of specialists from the EAEU to the Baltic states (and other countries) is in full swing. A brief excerpt from the report (figures on the relocation of specialists and specific requirements for migrants in this information for certain reasons are not given),

      Here is the data of the Federal State Statistics Service:
      see from 1.18
  44. captain
    captain 25 January 2018 09: 03
    +1
    So it seems like from the time of the Crusades, we are promised the extinction, the destruction of Orthodoxy and other heavenly punishments. If we do not have new Lenins and Trotsky in the near future, we will live long and outlive everyone.
  45. aries2200
    aries2200 25 January 2018 09: 05
    +1
    God forbid! there is a chance to cleanse Russia from the bloodsuckers of the Russian people
  46. Lacoste
    Lacoste 25 January 2018 09: 06
    +1
    all the way, putinsl) 15 million will die, 15 will leave - to change Putin urgently) and whom to put? corrupt komunyak, such as sternum does not offer.
    1. ankon
      ankon 25 January 2018 17: 12
      +3
      Yes, Putin needs to be changed, lies 18 years and does not blush! You turn on the phone and see that he answered the journalist of Public Television on a simple question: "How to live in the outback of the country to retire 8 thousand rubles"? Take a look! Only 4 minutes of video and you will understand that people are simply mocking you.
      1. Lacoste
        Lacoste 26 January 2018 08: 58
        0
        over whom over you? I have a good salary, plus a side job. Everything suits me. And the pension of 8000 for those who spent the whole life at the factory twisting the knob and that's it, thanks to komunyaks, they raised handymen)
  47. Stiletto_711
    Stiletto_711 25 January 2018 09: 09
    +1
    The song of the group "Leningrad" - Road laughing
  48. Moskovit
    Moskovit 25 January 2018 09: 10
    +2
    Those who travel abroad for the first time do not yet understand that a tourist trip is very different from moving. Over the years, you understand the value of the homeland, native language, culture and your land. I think that some people really want to go abroad, but above all because they cannot cope with their problems, cannot find a place in life, and thus flee in the first place from themselves. And this will continue abroad.
    What we really lack is the warm seas! Well, even though Crimea is back, it’s not enough anyway)).
  49. groks
    groks 25 January 2018 09: 11
    0
    Fuck your left! Would be authoritarian, so everyone would only be happy. These let them go. And we have nowhere to go, no reason and no reason.
  50. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 25 January 2018 09: 15
    +3
    This is bullshit! The Levada Center never gave objective information, they were always funded from abroad, these are foreign agents. For a long time I have been tormented by vague doubts - how long will any Anglo-Saxon riffraff in Russia ravage? It’s time to clean up this liberal and anti-Russian government led by Medvedev.
    1. captain
      captain 25 January 2018 14: 47
      0
      Are we really 30% of the non-traditional population? I do not believe. Pi .... let you run, in Europe there are clearly few of them, but I think the arbs will satisfy them there.
    2. Lacoste
      Lacoste 26 January 2018 09: 00
      0
      Quote: bratchanin3
      This is bullshit! The Levada Center never gave objective information, they were always funded from abroad, these are foreign agents. For a long time I have been tormented by vague doubts - how long will any Anglo-Saxon riffraff in Russia ravage? It’s time to clean up this liberal and anti-Russian government led by Medvedev.

      Wahaha)) kagtavy gevolyutsioneg? take tires, go round the Kremlin, cleaner))