The media reported difficulties in the negotiations between India and Russia on the purchase of C-400

At the talks between India and Russia on the acquisition of the C-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems (ZRS), difficulties arose, according to the American Defense News magazine, citing the Indian Defense Ministry.

Russia requests $ 5,5 billion for five sets (C-400 - approx), as well as a high tuition price and refuses to provide technology of three types of guided missiles

- said the publication of an unnamed source in the Ministry of Defense of India. According to him, the proposal for the maintenance of air defense systems and a package of measures to support the system are also not formed.

Another representative of the Indian Defense Ministry told the publication that the final contract would not be signed soon, and Delhi would not pay more than $ 4,5 billion for these systems.

He noted that, according to the Indian side, the contract should include the production in India of components, guided missiles, as well as a package of technical support for the entire service life of the air defense system.

Recall that December 19 Indian Ambassador to Russia Pankaj Saran said that the parties are continuing technical negotiations on deliveries to New Delhi of the C-400 system, despite the fact that the procedure for concluding and implementing these agreements "takes time."

Comments

[the most important]

Hindus again want everything for nothing and + cake in addition!

[Piramidon]

Gypsies, they are gypsies. They will bargain to the last. I won’t be surprised if blackmail of the type begins - “But we’ll take it and buy the Patriot from mattresses.”

[zadorin1974]

Such is in front of the Amerikosovskiy systems (there is no way to get used to technologies there too). So the price tag is more round, with American weapons there is always the ruble entry, the exit is twenty.

[Piramidon]

Quote: zadorin1974

So the price tag is more round, with American armament always so-input ruble, twenty output.

And you remember how they, with the expensive "Rafals", were showing off before us.

[zadorin1974]

And has something changed? Have you bought Rafali?

[Don]

Quote: zadorin1974

And has something changed? Have you bought Rafali?

Don’t you know? 24 Rafal took without technology transfer. They intend to order more if they do not take the latest version of the F-16 with the transfer of technology. In general, Russia, besides C-400, does not expect large contracts. The problem here is not only in Russia. Hindus and Americans already without hesitation regard each other as allies to contain China.

[Kolyan Realov]

I am afraid that Indians are seen as meat that needs to be sent to a Chinese massacre for the benefit of the Omerigi, and the Indians can guess about it.

[Inok10]

Quote: Donskoy

Don’t you know? 24 Raphael was taken without technology transfer. They intend to order more if they do not take the latest version of the F-16 with the transfer of technology.

Quote: Kolyan Reals

I am afraid that Indians are seen as meat that needs to be sent to a Chinese massacre for the benefit of the Omerigi, and the Indians can guess about it.

... Whoa ... Good gentlemen ... you have already suffered ... You should at least read the article and so begin to read:
- start with the title:

The media reported difficulties in the negotiations between India and Russia on the purchase of C-400

... The media reported ... well, and whose media? ... it turns out "Zarechnye" ...
- now about the Zarechnye media there is already clear: ...

american magazine Defense News with reference to the Ministry of Defense of India

... out ...
- and now according to the source of "Zarechnye" media:

An unnamed source in the Indian Ministry of Defense told the publication.

... Final ... Rzhak ...

[cniza]

The media reported ... well, and whose media? ... it turns out "Zarechnye" ... laughing

This is how wars are waged, and they are pushed between the foreheads ...

[Inok10]

Quote: cniza

This is how wars are waged, and they are pushed between the foreheads ...

... Good Vit ... ... so the "fakes" and "stuffing" are being promoted ... well, the prepared trolls are already ready ...

[cniza]

Greetings, Alex! , we now live in a dimension that many did not understand, today you can make "things" without leaving your "home", and the effect is like from shelling "Pinocchio".

[Inok10]

Quote: cniza

we now live in a dimension that many did not understand, today you can make “things” without leaving your “home”, and the effect is like shelling “Pinocchio”.

... even more ... like from "Baby" ... but they just didn’t understand the most important thing ... You won’t take Russian into European Bunch ...

[penal battalion]

Adjusted for the wind, I would clarify, blowing from the Indian Ocean ....

According to The Times of India dated January 22, 2018, a contract worth $ 5,5 billion is planned to be signed by 2019, and negotiations have already begun.

The Indian military expects to buy five S-400 divisions.

By 2025, the complexes will be transferred to India.

It seems that the source of Defense News magazine, some Jumar Potkhar or Raj Mandur, a guest worker from Madras, works in the same office of the magazine, where he evens floors and takes out garbage in the evenings, who has an uncle to whom a cousin from Bombay recently arrived, told him this information .....
Defense News dunked India’s Ministry of Defense in a slop pit, informing the whole world that some officials of the Ministry of Defense allegedly didn’t hold in the ass, because the information on a military contract, which is at the stage of an offer or an acceptance, is a state secret, for "draining" which provides for clipping the head, at least .....
I would advise our forum users to "filter" information from these news publications.

[cniza]

Quote: Inok10

[... even more ... like from "Baby" ... but they just didn’t understand the most important thing ... You won’t take Russian into European Bunch ...

This is their eternal rake, once, twice in a century, Russia entered Europe, reconciled everyone, rebuilt and left ...

[Scoun]

Quote: Inok10

... Final ... Rzhak ...

Well, not so much rzhak.
Hindus methodically get technology, bargain, buy.
The Chinese did .... otherwise, they stole, copied and bought it as a "Varangian" from the pan-and-leg.
But!!!
Transferring S-400 technologies to them and everything connected with Triumph is how to lay down air defense weapons in front of everyone.
IMHA. ours will be sent politely. If they don’t send and agree ... sooner or later there will be a scandal on this or that side.
Personally, my opinion is Indians, start with a small, or at least Buk, S-400 technology .... akin to Topol-M in importance.
Although I apologize, the S-400 defense and Poplar otvetka.

[Star]

Hindus will once again allow a commission to our developments with the Americans at the head, you see they will also be in the black for money.

[Don]

Quote: Kolyan Realov

I am afraid that Indians are seen as meat that needs to be sent to a Chinese massacre for the benefit of the Omerigi, and the Indians can guess about it.

So it suits everyone. The US has a powerful fleet and expeditionary force, while the Indians have a large population. Especially when you consider that nearby Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and several other island states look back with caution to the Chinese. In sum, a good union is obtained.

[poquello]

Quote: Donskoy

Indians have a large population. Especially when you consider that nearby Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and several other island states look back with caution to the Chinese. In sum, a good union is obtained.

I wonder how they will call it - the revolution of the lotus, cows or Che, the Americans in Argentina puffed puffed and all the same we came to us

[Kolyan Realov]

The fact is that the Indians from the slaughterhouse have no profit and they don’t need this slaughterhouse at all. Russia needs India in the event of a theoretically possible settlement with China, and for partners it’s necessary for the massacre with China, that’s the whole difference. Trade South Korea with China more than from the United States by the way. South Korea is actively lying under China, which causes concern in North Korea by the way.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: zadorin1974

So the price tag is more round, with American armament always so-input ruble, twenty output.

And you remember how they, with the expensive "Rafals", were showing off before us.

As a result, they sucked on all points. The usual thing for them. In general, such a nation.

[Baloo]

Quote: Piramidon

Gypsies, they are gypsies. They will bargain to the last. I won’t be surprised if blackmail of the type begins - “But we’ll take it and buy the Patriot from mattresses.”

Hindus are building strategic relationships with the Macinton Macington monkeys. Maybe they should not sell the S-400? Let them buy a patriot. Does the S-400 take the target at heights of up to 5 meters, and the patriot only up to 100, or am I confusing again?

[INVESTOR]

No matter how Indians were blamed, they know how to count money, unlike us. We will credit everyone, and then write off, but we need to fight for every penny ... they supply us a lot of drugs, they have a strong pharmacology, we would like that,

[Shahno]

The more contracts we conclude with them, the more I think that Indians have a Jewish attitude towards money. I force myself not to save myself by force, well my wife helps ...

[abrakadabre]

I force myself not to save myself

I hope without assault? Only by persuasion?

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: abrakadabre

I force myself not to save myself
I hope without assault? Only by persuasion?

I understand you did not have a Jewish mother or wife. these possess telekinesis, why trite assault

[Cossack 471]

Share it. if not difficult. what is expressed by the "Jewish attitude towards money." with them . sworn always a problem. more precisely, without them.

[poquello]

Quote: Shahno

The more contracts we conclude with them, the more I think that Indians have a Jewish attitude towards money.

)))) not well with your flag .., are the Jews already crying?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: INVESTOR

they supply us a lot of drugs, their pharmacology is strong, we would like that,

Well, water to push them a chip so that we have all our medicines produced ... and also come up with a che-thread from above !!! let them feel in the place of others !!!

[Tusv]

Quote: Piramidon

Gypsies, they are gypsies. They will bargain to the last. I won’t be surprised if blackmail of the type begins - “But we’ll take it and buy the Patriot from mattresses.”

Whole gigabax to extort is not a fool.
And so seven years ago, an agreement was signed between Putin and Modi. Their military department 2 years ago approved the deal, just about 5.5 gigabytes (their newspaper wrote about the amount in Krora). It remained for little to decide how much money will be invested in our economy, and how much money. Bargained bargained, and China took and bought and invested especially without sucking. The factory was completed and the export line was launched. Tapericha s-400 can be baked like pies. As be and investments are no longer needed. You can safely bargain from the starting price of 5,5 GB according to the principle:
Hindus - 4.5
Ours are 6,5, and walk around the market look for cheaper

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Tusv

Hindus - 4.5
Ours are 6,5, and walk around the market look for cheaper

At the negotiations on the Mistrals, the French were very surprised at the generosity and accommodatingness of the Serdyukov negotiators. But what about us, hucksters got away? Some bribe takers and embezzlers left? I do not believe! To create an attack team of negotiators from the hucksters, to get a little material interest, to nip a little on the FSB line so that they better vindicate the interests of the Motherland - that’s how they get out of gypsies and 10 lard ...

[Tusv]

Quote: Zoldat_A

the French were very surprised at the generosity and accommodatingness of the Serdyukov negotiators. But what about us, hucksters got away?

The generosity of the Russian soul is unlimited .. Flew in - missiles do not mind. The main thing is to report., For one Purpose Expense two and God forbid they will not find a second rocket in the wreckage

[Vita vko]

Quote: Piramidon

Gypsies, they are gypsies. They will bargain to the last.

So our bargain needs to be studied. There are many options for compromise. For example: if you don’t buy on our terms, we can sell it to Pakistan. Or even more humane, if they want production, then let me buy the technology and organize the licensed assembly, our enterprises are already overloaded. Hindus will spend 5 years on the deployment of the enterprise, and the release of the first experimental batch, then they will bring to mind a couple of years. And by this time, the export look will be ready for the S-500.

[Kolyan Realov]

No need to transfer any licenses to anyone. Production should be with us, and in case of war, quickly start producing products, it is better to keep production even if the profit is very small. In an extreme case, you can agree that they collect from the sets that we will send, that's all.

[Kent0001]

Yes, send them to ..... Technology to give these ragged people. Caught, let the tanks from the tank kits first learn how to properly assemble ..... A "Patriot" .... let him buy it. He has long been talking about nothing. The Hussites checked.

[tol100v]

Quote: the most important

Hindus again want everything for nothing and + cake in addition!

Stop flirting with the Indians. After conducting excursions for Pentagon military specialists on submarines built in Russia, it is necessary to fundamentally change the policy on military-technical cooperation, and even more so on the transfer of secret technologies !!!

[RASKAT]

Well, firstly, this is a boat of the 3 generation and the construction of the late seventies, and secondly, there were times when we ourselves let American spies into our ZATOs and also cuddle them. For a long time they copied everything they wanted from our secret developments.
Here the question is different, the Indians, like the Chinese, and many other Asian countries, are trying to pull technologies to their backward countries that they themselves do not possess. Yes, honor and praise to them, everyone does it, not many do it. BUT. For some jeans, irons, pans and screws, this can and does work. For space. aviation, no weapons. The same Americans, for example, transferred a lot of their technology to the Allies? So we need to behave the same.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: RASKAT

Firstly

secondly, it seems, and there was no excursion !!! about all the same, to deal with the Indians is more expensive for yourself !!!

[Alexander Tsvetkov]

Our side did not have such a fact to notify that there would be specialists in rescue equipment. Our official claims were not made.

[Maz]

Anglo-Saxon School, I wonder what China will approve

[Tusv]

Quote: Maz

I wonder what China will approve

Already approved. One division on the Yankee Trolit DB

[self-propelled]

Quote: the most important

Hindus again want everything for nothing and + cake in addition!

well yes and Technology also. very modest guys.
on "Apache" also received technology?

[RASKAT]

Well, it’s Hindus, as they say, to eat fish and ...... Nineties guys ended when people sold their homeland for a jar of jam and a basket of cookies. And one would also have to ask from where you rams are such weapons that are so similar to ours (this is a lyrical digression). Now Either pay or go.
Give them technology, you know

[antivirus]

He noted that, according to the Indian side, the contract should include the production in India of components, guided missiles, as well as a package of technical support for the entire service life of the air defense system.

image is everything. they see many Hindus in dust and relate to the country, and it’s impossible to dress everyone in white clothes.

-Do not smear -Do not go. grease dries quickly in hot climates.

[Normal ok]

Quote: the most important

Hindus again want everything for nothing and + cake in addition!

Not only they want, but they will.

[Star]

I'm used to it. But with the S-400 such a number will not work. We have a turn on these systems.
And if someone put on a freebie, then North Korea, in revenge for the IOC.

[iouris]

The US administration may impose sanctions at any time and no money will be paid for the delivered weapons. In addition, India does not need weapons from the Russian Federation, India from the Russian Federation needs technology, better for free.

[210ox]

The Hindus have become a little accommodating .. The pancake competition and the desire to get our technology. First deal with your gouging capable of nullifying the capabilities of any weapon ..

[NEXUS]

Who would doubt that ...

Russia requests $ 5,5 billion for five sets (C-400 - approx), as well as a high tuition price and refuses to provide technology of three types of guided missiles

Or maybe the Indians still smear their back with gooseberry jam and say where is the key to the apartment where the money is?

[Alexanast]

Andrew, I’m thinking maybe Pakistan has something to offer, for quiet sadness ...
You look and the turkeys become more accommodating

[NEXUS]

Quote: Alexanast

Andrew, I’m thinking maybe Pakistan has something to offer, for quiet sadness ...
You look and the turkeys become more accommodating

No, it’s definitely not necessary ... it’s the same as giving the Taliban new weapons ... the Indians, though fussy and tricky, but with regards to money, if everything is agreed, they pay regularly and do not quarrel with us.

[Alexanast]

Yes, I’m not talking about the new ... Just to fly ...
And yes, they have a lot of money, this market is very good ...
Therefore, I say ... In a quiet ... So that was to blame on someone ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Alexanast

Therefore, I say ... In a quiet ... So that was to blame on someone ...

Not ... these are mattress tricks that are not yet suitable for us. There, the Kurds were armed, the Turks were outfitted and pitted ... hilarious, having a break just for the mattresses. This is not good for us. Amounts of contracts seen with the Indians? There is nothing to talk about.

[Alexanast]

Quote: NEXUS

Amounts of contracts seen with the Indians?

Andrey, we are now repairing a couple of boats for them ... So I heard a lot about their solvency ... Just in the market, as in war ... All means are good.
And then, how many calls were there that it would be nice for us to learn something from the mattresses. No one is ceremonious with us. The same turkeys ... They wag their tail cleaner than any male ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Alexanast

Andrey, we are now repairing a couple of boats for them ... So I heard a lot about their solvency ... Just in the market, as in war ... All means are good.

Well, Pakistan, if you want, you might think ... just to sell the same Triumph to a potential vassal of a potential enemy ... well, I don’t know. Yes, you say, we’re selling it to the Turks ... that's right, only the Turks have a big tooth on mattresses and did not forget how he wanted stupidly according to the script Gaddafi to merge these same mattresses.

Quote: KCA

So China is already being shipped, and China and Pakistan, including India, are friends, will have a drink, the Indians will cheek and buy

Everything is true ... but only the map of Pakistan is painfully vague. And there are a lot of pitfalls. I suppose so far we should not rush with Pakistan.

[KCA]

So China is already being shipped, and China and Pakistan, including India, are friends, will have a drink, the Indians will cheek and buy

[newcomer]

Indians! _ those are gut. give them rocket technology, train them on the “ball”, and even deploy production from them. all the same conspire_ there is no alternative to C400.

[afrikanez]

Hindus, in their repertoire, are traded on the market. Well, if they need the S-400, let them go around the market, maybe they will find cheaper!

[Herculesic]

I wrote the same thing in my comment! !

[afrikanez]

It can be seen so be it! Hindus walking around the market are impressive.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: afrikanez

Well, if they need the S-400, let them go around the market, maybe they will find cheaper!

Here, I immediately recall the scene on the "Little Pink" from KF "Downhouse".

[jovanni]

The media reported difficulties in the negotiations between India and Russia on the purchase of C-400

But were there any negotiations with the Indians without difficulties ?! But to bargain for the S-400! Let those who stand in line behind them then let them go ahead ...

[Egorovich]

India in its repertoire: - All at once and whenever possible for that. The face will crack from such Wishlist.

[Nemesis]

And nobody will give the technology of the latest Indian air defense systems. They will not buy them in the USA either. Russia should not transfer such technologies to India also because India admits specialists from the USA to its military equipment.

[Kisso4kin]

Sosilus Hindu

[Herculesic]

I would send them! Let them buy from the Chinese, or even create such weapons with them! Big Bazaar - let it be like, maybe someone that he offers them!

[weddu]

In any case, India will buy the S-400, since China bought it. Traded. It is not reasonable to establish a price lower than that which was in the contract with China per unit.

[Thunderbolt]

refuses to provide technology for three types of guided missiles

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[Berkut24]

How to buy, so be sure all the technology come on and production in India. With this approach, only dung. And so - let them walk around the market, bargain ....

[rocket757]

C'mon, nothing new, bargaining, waiting for bribes, all the rules.
Just a trampoline strategist had to be silent in a rag and everything would be normal, as usual!

[smart ass]

Do not want to pay 5 cartoons, pay with the lives of your soldiers

[Lock36]

It is possible that kickbacks want to get rid of - corrupt and thieving to the limit.

[Wolka]

But besides the Indians, is there really no one to sell? but the turn however is present which both the price and conditions are quite satisfied

[Ace Tambourine]

The catch is that the Indians demand that the rocket in flight must dance ...

[APASUS]

Already passed the stage, it's time to get used to it!
Now they’ll try to bring down the price and get the technology. Then the next day there will be infa that India and Israel are starting to negotiate. Then they will ask for tests on their territory and the tests will be painted as unsuccessful, but all you need to lower the price to their requirements!
In fact, to hell with such buyers, when buying a car in a store, I don’t require in the place of the car to hand me all the technological documentation

[DPN]

And what do we want the market is the market, there are two fools, one is selling, the other is buying, and here someone who, to put it mildly, will send horseradish. We are doing the same thing on the collective farm grocery market, and the Indians are the same.

[Vlad5307]

Indians, as always, without applying brains and technologies, want to have everything at once, simply saying "sit in one place and eat fish"!

[senima56]

It would be surprising if there were no "difficulties" in the negotiations with the Indians (!!!!)! They always tried and are trying to starve to death! Remember our former aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov. He was almost again rebuilt, before that the Indians "got it"! So with them you always need to be ready for "surprises"!

[Alex20042004]

Quote: the most important

Hindus again want everything for nothing and + cake in addition!

He who has money takes and buys.
And what a banquet, if there are no bucks!

[Simon]

Quote: Piramidon

Gypsies, they are gypsies. They will bargain to the last. I won’t be surprised if blackmail of the type begins - “But we’ll take it and buy the Patriot from mattresses.”

Well, let them buy! All that mattress - it is all several times more expensive. So, it is still unknown whether they will win or not.

[Simon]

Quote: Vlad5307

Indians, as always, without applying brains and technologies, want to have everything at once, simply saying "sit in one place and eat fish"!

Yeah! Also, technology for free to get hold of.

[Simon]

Quote: Ace Tambourine

The catch is that the Indians demand that the rocket in flight must dance ...

But as! In Indian or Russian?

[Vlad Morozov]

Hindus want too much! Eats an export option and take it easy! The rest is not a secret for you!

[Simon]

Quote: afrikanez

Hindus, in their repertoire, are traded on the market. Well, if they need the S-400, let them go around the market, maybe they will find cheaper!

Yeah, in Ukraine! They will not even fly.

[Million]

Where Rogozin is, there are always difficulties! Stupid Russian statesman, diplomat, doctor of philosophical sciences, doctor of technical sciences

[Maks1m4ik]

Yes, what difficulties can be on the sale, not the USSR for the transfer of modern technology, they will not be soldered and not shot, especially since India probably already has new modern weapons more than we have tanks for sure)

[agel26r]

Oh yes and please. Personally, I will not get rich from the sale of these complexes in India, and I will not offend from not selling
Like most of our compatriots.

[Apollo]

The current worthless Russian government is not capable of anything.
The Hindus will eventually achieve their goal, and our leaders will argue that the price was specially overestimated, saying that we live in market conditions, and subsequently was reduced. What was supposedly so conceived. The delivery of positions for our "negotiators" is a common thing.

[Apollo]

Quote: Million

Where Rogozin is, there are always difficulties! Stupid Russian statesman, diplomat, doctor of philosophical sciences, doctor of technical sciences

Rogozin has nothing to do with it, he is responsible for the production of the defense industry. Shoigu is in charge of the supply negotiations.

"The military departments of Russia and India have made progress in negotiations on military projects, and in particular on S-400 air defense systems," said Russian Defense Minister Sershey Shoigu during the 16th meeting of the Russian-Indian intergovernmental commission on military-technical cooperation.

[tosha.chuhontzev]

And this is understandable. In the event of a conflict between China and India, all Russian weapons from the Indian side will be deactivated. Although, it seems that the Kremlin brigade decided to push everyone together!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: tosha.chuhontzev

Kremlin brigade decided to push everyone together!

Obama?

[Alexander Tsvetkov]

Everything will be fine, you can not worry. By the reaction of opponents determine the maximum that can be grabbed. The problem for them is only that the complex is essentially unique but unique. NO DIRECT AND EXPLANATORY ANALOGUE. THERE IS NOW HERE.

[HMR333]

another throwing from unknown sources clowns

[garik77]

gypsy habit of grabbing a freebie. I think they will fly by. Apparently, and without them, there are enough orders, so they can lick oneself.

[HEATHER]

The Indians are cunning and not very smart guys. Do you want to pay? Why should we work at a loss? Isn't it time to just send them? They are like that fox, either smart or beautiful. We are not in the USSR. We have learned how to work. even harder. You’ll puff up — in the next appeal for acquisition, the price may rise. And not a little. "Fools do not know honesty. Every obscene buyer is trying to bring down the price. And we do not trade in bananas. Please accept our terms."Nicholas II to the Austrian Chancellor. "

[tosha.chuhontzev]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: tosha.chuhontzev

Kremlin brigade decided to push everyone together!

Obama?

yes foreheads, took to the chest a little higher than normal.

[Star]

It is necessary to declare an open auction as we have on public procurement terms (with a security deposit), it will be fun.

[Anchonsha]

Well, the cunning and lack of maturity of the Indians is well known. We sell air defense systems, and not give them for nothing. Moreover, the Indians do not spare money for weapons from the West. Merikans do not give up their technology to any weapons, and why we will give it back. Moreover, it became known that the Indians share secrets about our weapons with the Americans. And the Indians will no longer buy worse quality air defense systems than our S-400s.

[solovald]

And the muzzle (Hindu) will not crack?

[faiver]

oh, they don’t want to take it, well, let it not be taken ..., the factories from us will not get up from this ...

[bamoves]

the Hindus have no foolish lip; give them that.

[Alex von Dorn]

Do not want - do not eat. Take a walk around the bazaar, maybe you can find where it’s cheaper .... And all business with these Indians, no one will cry.

[BARHAN]

Let them buy from China, they will soon rivet copies of the S-400.

[Dimmih]

Quote "according to the Indian side, the contract should include the production in India of components, guided missiles, as well as a package of technical support for the entire life of the air defense system." No problem: DEVELOP your complex, produce and maintain, the most inexpensive way. So, empty-boreholes developed their own tank and underdeveloped it. Now here are the S-400s ready to accept as a gift, along with technical documentation.