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In Crimea, rejected the idea of ​​holding a UN referendum

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Repeat referendum on the status of Crimea is not required, as Crimeans have already made their choice in 2014 year and do not intend to prove anything to anyone, said Deputy Prime Minister of the Crimean Government Dmitry Polonsky.


In Crimea, rejected the idea of ​​holding a UN referendum


On the eve of a member of the House of Lords of the British Parliament, Richard Balfe from the rostrum of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe expressed the idea of ​​holding a UN referendum in the Crimea, so that people "freely expressed their will."

Crimeans demonstrated their will in 2014 year, and on this issue put an end. The president of the Russian Federation has repeatedly spoken about this, and this opinion is supported by all Crimeans. We are not going to prove anything to anyone again.
- said Polonsky.

He noted that before making such statements, it would be necessary to realize the will of the British people, who voted at the referendum for the country's withdrawal from the EU.

Let first realize the will of the British, and then give advice on how and who needs what else to make decisions, how and who to vote and how there and what to do. It would be correct and reasonable. The status of the lord does not give absolutely no right to tell the residents of the Crimea how to be and what to do. I think we will figure it out without the Lords
- the vice-premier emphasized, transfers RIA News
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  1. The black
    The black 24 January 2018 13: 57 New
    26
    He noted that before making such statements, it would be necessary to realize the will of the British people, who voted at the referendum for the country's withdrawal from the EU.

    He shaved off for the record ... That's right. No referendums under the auspices of the UN. All these are old British showers. Consent to hold such a referendum is actually a recognition of the illegitimacy of the previous one with all the ensuing conclusions .....
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 24 January 2018 13: 59 New
      43
      I propose "re-" civil war of the North and South in the United States smile
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 24 January 2018 14: 04 New
        12
        Let the UN hold a state referendum in California.
        1. Pirogov
          Pirogov 24 January 2018 17: 28 New
          +5
          Quote: Alexander 3
          Let the UN hold a state referendum in California.

          The Englishman suggested, then urgently needed to be held in Scotland.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 24 January 2018 14: 07 New
        11
        Everything is fine with Crimea, and let the Britt Lord put his idea in the same place where you need to put the apiary and Vtoshka!
        I would like a Schaub with a five-ring problem solved once and for all !!!
        To listen to the bleating of the gritty .... it's just disgusting, and those who should be listened to, Grishin from the Komsomol is cut down in the vine !!!
        It's disgusting to go to folk already!
        1. tap
          tap 24 January 2018 14: 19 New
          +2
          This is from the heart ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 24 January 2018 14: 52 New
            +5
            I would like from the heart, ehhhh ... too many fines, drown in the bud!
            1. Warrior with machine gun
              Warrior with machine gun 24 January 2018 15: 05 New
              +4
              and everyone wants these island dogs from the heart ..., the lords still won’t wake up in the present tense, imagine themselves to be an empire where the sun does not set, and the Pygmies themselves are American lizuns for a long time, let their tea be taught to brew tea angry
      3. zloybond
        zloybond 24 January 2018 17: 28 New
        +2
        I suggest the IOC review the results of the Second World War. not taken into account doping - the people's commissar 100 grams.
        In general, it would be right to completely ignore all the fuss and blathering of any foreigners. Look how they fidget when Russia keeps calm, silence and endurance. You just need to do your job. To initiate punishment is not important for what. Just initiate sanctions against the United States. And do not wait when they get us and stock up on Vaseline.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 24 January 2018 20: 31 New
          +1
          People’s Commissars do not give !!! If sho, I will take out the old trihedral bayonet and make them TRIAL ZARAPINES with a transition to deep penetration, since they themselves have proved that if they suffer for a long time, it won’t work out !!!
    2. Anarchist
      Anarchist 24 January 2018 14: 02 New
      10
      Yes, let them hold this referendum! let the states or europe pay, and we will! I doubt that the results will be different ...
      At the same time and organize in the Donbass ...
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 24 January 2018 14: 06 New
        +9
        Quote: Anarchist
        Yes, let them hold this referendum! let the states or europe pay, and we will! I doubt that the results will be different ...
        At the same time and organize in the Donbass ...

        Crimea is not Kiev pleased that in violation of the regulations re-vote 30 times to the desired result
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 24 January 2018 14: 26 New
          0
          To the right to whom?
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 24 January 2018 16: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: Kent0001
            To the right to whom?

            For the one who steers Ukrainian politics. This is about the issue of democracy and independence of some countries.
      2. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 24 January 2018 14: 07 New
        17
        Hello Alexander. Who will conduct it in Crimea and on what grounds? What legislation? Who will be involved in the organization? Ukraine, States, Germany? If we agree that a second referendum is needed, then the first is invalid. And that means Crimea is still the territory of Ukraine. Everything is sewn with white thread.
        If UN officials have such an itch in one place, then let them hold a referendum on the unification of the GDR and the FRG. Something tells us that the results there will be very interesting.
        1. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 24 January 2018 14: 15 New
          +3
          If we agree that a second referendum is needed, then the first is invalid.
          Why on earth? Theoretically, it can be done again, only the referendum question needs to be formulated competently and then there will be no contradictions. Let them pay - we’ll do it. Although by and large it’s good to bend under them, let them arrange what we want at home, and we will figure out our referenda ourselves.
          1. NKT
            NKT 24 January 2018 14: 25 New
            +4
            Why spend it again? Then you can hold a UN referendum on all overseas territories of Britain and France, for example.
            1. Warrior with machine gun
              Warrior with machine gun 24 January 2018 15: 06 New
              +4
              then they will be left without pants and offshore))
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 24 January 2018 14: 55 New
            +5
            The referendum was the point. Yankee goats ... enemies and the point. In the geyropa all the geyropeytsy and they went where necessary and the point.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 24 January 2018 16: 45 New
              +1
              The referendum was the point. Yankee goats ... enemies and the point. In the geyropa all the geyropeytsy and they went where necessary and the point.

              The Iron Curtain them and the point ?! bully
            2. Alexanast
              Alexanast 24 January 2018 22: 00 New
              +3
              Quote: rocket757
              where it is necessary and the point


              Victor hi , this is where the sunlight does not reach wassat ?
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 25 January 2018 11: 28 New
                +1
                Hello Alexander hi .
                I would write the address more precisely, but the repressions will not take long! Already grabbed "likes"!
                As desired Alex777 am already impossible.
                Sales in the Soviet era were leaking !!! and not the best quality wassat and now it’s in no way separated from the world of information !!! As in North Korea, we do not need! So we educate young people, learn to think independently and filter the Old.
        2. Anarchist
          Anarchist 24 January 2018 14: 16 New
          +7
          Alex, good day! Totally agree with you, buddy! I am so, if they have nowhere to go, then let them invest in a referendum that is meaningless and has no legal force. They just need to make noise, So they work out the money ... Our goal is that they spend as much as possible! To exhaust, so to speak.
      3. BLOND
        BLOND 24 January 2018 14: 20 New
        +3
        Quote: Anarchist
        Yes, let them hold this referendum! let the states or europe pay, and we will! I doubt that the results will be different ...
        At the same time and organize in the Donbass ...

        AT Donbass held a referendum on May 11, 2014!
        In unoccupied territory.
        1. Anarchist
          Anarchist 24 January 2018 14: 24 New
          +5
          Quote: BLOND
          In the Donbass held a referendum on May 11, 2014

          AND? No results are visible, from the word at all! I understand that there can be no complaints against Novorossia, but still ...
          1. BLOND
            BLOND 24 January 2018 14: 29 New
            +5
            Quote: Anarchist
            Quote: BLOND
            In the Donbass held a referendum on May 11, 2014

            AND? No results are visible, from the word at all! I understand that there can be no complaints against Novorossia, but still ...

            If you don’t see it at all, then this is for the optometrist.
            Do you compare Donbass with the outskirts? About the result?
            1. Anarchist
              Anarchist 24 January 2018 14: 46 New
              +7
              Why bullshit? The referendum did not give results! He gave it in Crimea, but not in the Donbass! Nobody is going to send polite people there! And this is not a claim to the Donbass, but to the leadership of the Russian Federation! They could have prevented this massacre as early as 14m. And so we have what we have ... An ongoing war!
              1. BLOND
                BLOND 24 January 2018 14: 55 New
                +4
                Quote: Anarchist
                Why bullshit? The referendum did not give results! He gave it in Crimea, but not in the Donbass! Nobody is going to send polite people there! And this is not a claim to the Donbass, but to the leadership of the Russian Federation! They could have prevented this massacre as early as 14m. And so we have that we have ...

                What do you have i don't know
                And in the Donbass, thanks to the referendum and armed resistance of the junta:
                - Could have left for the territory of the Russian Federation or to the rear of the LDNR;
                - they could have gone to the territory of Ukraine (occupied by the FSA) and there were some, but few were;
                - they could stand up with arms in their hands and legally defend their land.
                When I exported my family to the territory of the Russian Federation, I was happy that the border was open!
                With EBN, I would not be sure of that!
                1. Anarchist
                  Anarchist 24 January 2018 15: 03 New
                  +5
                  And here is Yeltsin? I'm talking about the Putin government. How would an alcoholic behave is unknown to anyone. But Putin’s policy regarding Donbass is generally incomprehensible. Smugglers from Russia are almost legally transporting weapons to unrecognized republics through Donetsk, Rostov Region ... The goods are returned! Customs officers only earn on this! Here is such a criminal state aid ... Instead of openly stopping the violence, they generate crime on their territory!
                  1. BLOND
                    BLOND 24 January 2018 16: 04 New
                    0
                    Quote: Anarchist
                    And here is Yeltsin? I'm talking about the Putin government. How would an alcoholic behave is unknown to anyone. But Putin’s policy regarding Donbass is generally incomprehensible. Smugglers from Russia are almost legally transporting weapons to unrecognized republics through Donetsk, Rostov Region ... The goods are returned! Customs officers only earn on this! Here is such a criminal state aid ... Instead of openly stopping the violence, they generate crime on their territory!

                    I have Kum in Ozerny at the air base - dill
                    He tells me the same garbage, he lied even worse
                    1. Anarchist
                      Anarchist 24 January 2018 16: 50 New
                      +5
                      Quote: BLOND
                      The same garbage tells me

                      Do you talk bullshit? [B] [/ b] I would not say If I did not know, if I had not seen!
        2. Orionvit
          Orionvit 24 January 2018 16: 46 New
          +3
          Quote: BLOND
          In the Donbass held a referendum on May 11, 2014!

          Crimea, before the referendum, was a republic, with its government and parliament, although it was part of Ukraine. So it was easier there. The main difference between Crimea and Donbass is that the Russian army was originally in the Crimea.
          1. BLOND
            BLOND 25 January 2018 05: 13 New
            0
            Quote: Orionvit
            Quote: BLOND
            In the Donbass held a referendum on May 11, 2014!

            Crimea, before the referendum, was a republic, with its government and parliament, although it was part of Ukraine. So it was easier there. The main difference between Crimea and Donbass is that the Russian army was originally in the Crimea.

            And no one to explain
            Having the Internet, people can not understand what is happening in the Donbass, in the Crimea, in Ukraine for 4 years? I do not believe in it!
            Can't explain the trolls
      4. Baloo
        Baloo 24 January 2018 19: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: Anarchist
        Yes, let them hold this referendum! let the states or europe pay, and we will! I doubt that the results will be different ...
        At the same time and organize in the Donbass ...

        It is not clear why Crimea reacted so? It was necessary to ignore all matters. It’s not for them to tell Russia where what and how to do it. Nobody asked them, let the UN be silent in a rag. angry
      5. ludoger
        ludoger 25 January 2018 04: 43 New
        +1
        Donbass said his word after the Crimea, if anyone does not remember. although they asked me to keep quiet ...
    3. kapitan92
      kapitan92 24 January 2018 14: 06 New
      +7
      On the eve of a member of the House of Lords of the British Parliament, Richard Balfe from the rostrum of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe expressed the idea of ​​holding a UN referendum in the Crimea, so that people "freely expressed their will."

      Why not propose holding a referendum in Spain on the issue of Gibraltar?
    4. Topotun
      Topotun 24 January 2018 14: 09 New
      +7
      I would add Catalonia here .....
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 January 2018 14: 57 New
        +5
        You can add the Greeks !!! The people said the word, put a bolt of power!
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 24 January 2018 14: 10 New
      +5
      Heh! Is the island monarchy teaching the republic a referendum? belay
    6. 210ox
      210ox 24 January 2018 14: 44 New
      +5
      Isn’t it time to completely ignore the satellite proposals? Yes, their "owners"?
  2. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 24 January 2018 14: 02 New
    +4
    In Kosovo, under the auspices of this organization, they would offer ... Or Ireland, with Scotland ..
    "The Englishwoman is crap ..." (c). Liquid, and ..
    1. iaroslav.mudryi
      iaroslav.mudryi 24 January 2018 14: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: Siberian barber
      "The Englishwoman is crap ..." (c). Liquid, and ..


      .... the Englishwoman has guessed ...(new copyright (s)) wassat
      1. kot28.ru
        kot28.ru 24 January 2018 14: 15 New
        +2
        And, as we see, it’s liquid! laughing
  3. alavrin
    alavrin 24 January 2018 14: 03 New
    +2
    In principle, they can be silenced, but not by a special referendum, but by a separate issue for Crimeans in the presidential ballot - like, do you think that joining Russia today is the right step ... Let anyone who wants to come, I’m sure that 90% will "for" today.
    1. sd68
      sd68 24 January 2018 14: 12 New
      +1
      such an approach will not convince anyone.
      a referendum under UN control is another matter.
      but he obviously will not be
      1. alavrin
        alavrin 24 January 2018 14: 21 New
        +1
        Why? Observers - even from Lviv. And if they refuse, then it will immediately become obvious that they do not need a referendum, but blackmail and the creation of prerequisites for destabilizing the situation.
        You want a referendum, here’s a referendum for you, “without machine guns,” with full will, with millions of observers from at least Papua. And we will choose the form of its conduct, in order to avoid unnecessary additional costs.
        1. sd68
          sd68 24 January 2018 21: 46 New
          0
          observers from Lviv are not suitable.
          Well, they will say that the referendum is unfairly held, and what will it give?
          1. perm23
            perm23 26 January 2018 06: 24 New
            0
            Based on this logic. anyone can say that that's not fair. Why then even hold referendums.
      2. perm23
        perm23 24 January 2018 14: 54 New
        +1
        And what is the UN? who is from the UN? They are not in Syria. recognizing that Syria destroyed the chemical. weapons. They decide that Syria conducted a chemical. attack. Who needs to be convinced. Then let us again hold the presidential elections in Ukraine under UN control. and back to Yanukovych. which, together with international observers and guarantors, signed a document on early elections. To start from the very beginning.
        1. sd68
          sd68 24 January 2018 21: 45 New
          +1
          let's. I'm all for it.
          People will beat Yanukovych as soon as they arrive, that in Lviv, that in Kiev, that in Donetsk or Lugansk, and he himself knows about it
          1. perm23
            perm23 26 January 2018 06: 23 New
            +1
            Provide security. how to beat a candidate. Well then, for your democratic elections.
    2. loginovich
      loginovich 24 January 2018 14: 20 New
      0
      Are you sure the referendum will be fair? Me not.
      1. alavrin
        alavrin 24 January 2018 14: 26 New
        +3
        And what do you need to convince you, the Ukrainian flags on Primorsky Boulevard?)) I would even go so far as to print these ballots as additional to the main presidential somewhere in Lithuania, let them be numbered. All the same, Parasyuk will not help.
    3. Odysseus
      Odysseus 24 January 2018 14: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: alavrin
      In principle, they can shut their mouths, but not with a special referendum, but with a separate issue for Crimeans in the presidential ballot - like, do you think joining Russia today is the right step.

      No. The referendum was. The question is closed.
      In addition to the West, we won’t shut our mouths in any way. We can negotiate with Crimea only by demonstrating strength, and not by holding “repeated referenda.” This, on the contrary, is the path to defeat.
  4. sd68
    sd68 24 January 2018 14: 07 New
    +1
    But obviously they’re embarrassed to hold a referendum
    1. Loess
      Loess 24 January 2018 14: 14 New
      10
      Nope, they’re not shy, we’ll just hold a second referendum, they will demand a third and fifth and one hundred fifty-eighth from us, until THEIR are satisfied with the results of the referendum, so what's the point? And why do not we need someone to prove something.
      1. Korax71
        Korax71 24 January 2018 14: 31 New
        0
        In general, where does such confidence come from? Why not hold it? Let the observers run, hold a referendum under their control. If the will of the people of Crimea is like in Russia, then there will be a precedent, and Crimea can be considered Russian at the international level. I don’t think that the problem in money. but this reluctance is incomprehensible. It is already clear that no matter the outcome of the UN referendum no one will give up the peninsula. With such success, Russia will soon turn into DPRK 2.
        1. perm23
          perm23 24 January 2018 14: 50 New
          +5
          YOU are serious. First, why. ? . Why should a person prove something to someone several times. Secondly. This is just a trick. So they will arrange. that it is necessary to remove our troops from Crimea during the referendum. and what Ukrainians need to ask. etc.
        2. iaroslav.mudryi
          iaroslav.mudryi 24 January 2018 15: 11 New
          +4
          Quote: Korax71
          .... and why not? let the observers go, hold a referendum under their control. if the will of the people of Crimea is as in Russian, then there will be a precedent, and it will be possible to consider Crimea at the international level as Russian ...


          Mikhail Afanasevich Bulgakov. The Master and Margarita
          "NEVER AND NOTHING FOR ANYTHING! NEVER AND ANYTHING, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE STRONGER. YOU WILL OFFER AND ALL WILL GIVE YOURSELF!"

          Gold words! The time will come, and they will come running and admit, and they themselves will give everything !!! wink
          1. iaroslav.mudryi
            iaroslav.mudryi 24 January 2018 15: 15 New
            +4
            in continuation of the theme "... they will give everything ..." what ended the story with Siemens turbines in the Crimea:
            "...It turned out that the German side lost all the courts on this issue. And according to the latest decision of the Arbitration Court of January 10, the supply of these turbines to the Crimea is considered legal. However, despite this, For some reason, Siemens did not feel the urge to break off profitable cooperation with Russia (At the end of last year, a new billionth contract was signed on the supply of such turbines for TPPs in Tatarstan).

            The German side not only did not want to break ties with Russia, but vice versa thinking about developing new joint projects. Just the other day, Rostec and Siemens signed an agreement to create a network of clinical diagnostic laboratories.

            Also an important aspect in resolving this scandal consider the fate of a domestic turbine of huge power, which soon promises to replace products from Germany. Currently, this unit is already undergoing tests at the Ivanovo state district power station, which they plan to complete this spring. "

            "NEVER AND NOTHING FOR ANYTHING! NEVER AND ANYTHING, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE STRONGER. YOU WILL OFFER AND ALL WILL GIVE YOURSELF!"
        3. sd68
          sd68 24 January 2018 21: 49 New
          0
          it will not be the same in percentage terms, and all are well aware of this.
          1. perm23
            perm23 26 January 2018 06: 18 New
            0
            All this is you ..
        4. Alexanast
          Alexanast 24 January 2018 22: 07 New
          +3
          Quote: Korax71
          why not?


          And on x ... (hereinafter a vegetable to help ... within the meaning) ???
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 24 January 2018 16: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: Less
        they will be demanded of us by the third and fifth and one hundred and fifty-eighth, until they satisfy the results of the referendum

        Here it is worth recalling the memorable presidential elections in Ukraine in 2004. When after three rounds in which Yanukovych confidently won, they still appointed the right president through the court. Contrary to all laws and constitutions. And some people here from Ukraine will teach Russia the will of the people? lol
        1. sd68
          sd68 24 January 2018 21: 50 New
          0
          funny to read.
          did you hear something out of the corner of your ear?
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 25 January 2018 10: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: sd68
            funny to read.
            did you hear something out of the corner of your ear?

            Why did I hear, even participated. But you probably were still a child and, apparently, they remained. There is another option, you are just a “broad Ukrainian”, and then your brain is simply not subject to the laws of logic.
    2. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 24 January 2018 14: 21 New
      +4
      Huh huh not ho ho laughing One was a referendum and that's enough! Before every nuggle-sax, there wasn’t enough to fuss! Then there will be the second and third and fifth and twentieth, then they will demand referenda in other territories of Russia, will the results of all referenda be declared illegal and they will declare territorial claims? Although what can I say to a citizen of a state ruled by foreigners! If he is a citizen of that territory
      1. Korax71
        Korax71 24 January 2018 14: 58 New
        0
        Well, it started laughing it was as if it was only about Crimea. there are significant arguments besides slurred about fooling and other blizzards. our country is positioning itself as part of the world community. well, maybe it’s worth it to answer in accordance with international standards. There will be a positive result, the referendum will be held without violations, well, let’s say 80 percent for Crimea to be part of Russia. and that’s all !!!!! any attempts by other countries to question the status of the peninsula can be safely sent !!!!! this pride is not clear to me. it just turns out everyone is satisfied with today's status, and no one is going to solve this problem.
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 24 January 2018 16: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: Korax71
          any attempts by other countries to cast doubt on the status of the peninsula can be safely sent

          And so they send everyone. And the “other countries” will always question any decision or action of Russia, whatever it concerns. So far, this decision will not satisfy them.
        2. Alexanast
          Alexanast 24 January 2018 22: 13 New
          +6
          Quote: Korax71
          Well, maybe it’s worth it and answer in accordance with world standards.


          Young man. The referendum in Crimea was just in accordance with international standards. yes
          Only it is not interesting to anyone ... yes . We can do it anyway

          Quote: Korax71
          any attempts by other countries to question the status of the peninsula ... feel free to send


          So why throw beads in front of pigs.
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 24 January 2018 23: 01 New
            +1
            Not a hz about the world norms. But with us it seems like the agreement was signed on the integrity of the country and, as it were, according to the ukrainian constitution, the question of secession of the Crimea at the all-ukrainian referendum had to be decided. It seems that even in its time it was independent from Budapest refused to exchange guarantees from the United States, Russia and England for the integrity of the state. I’m not an international lawyer, but I don’t understand this question. On the one hand, the expression of will and historical roots of Crimea, all his life he was Russian land, I don’t take Turks into account we’ll, on the other hand, seem to have signed the mountain on both sides. I probably read about 15 at the time about the rental of naval bases in the Crimea, when it was Ukrainian, then there, under a bilateral agreement, exercises, maneuvers, and just a buildup of troops always consistent with Ukraine. here it turns out that there are more questions than answers.
            1. perm23
              perm23 26 January 2018 06: 16 New
              0
              You see, you don’t quite know what and how it was. First, no one gave Sevastopol. Secondly . was the Crimean Autonomous Republic at the time of signing in Budapest. , third . no one has ratified these agreements. Including Ukraine. fourth. . Crimea overthrew power in the Crimean autonomy. and the last one. according to the Ukrainian Constitution, you cannot remove the president, like that. without impeachment proceedings.
              1. Korax71
                Korax71 26 January 2018 10: 28 New
                0
                Their constitution does not spell out the procedure for removing the president from office in the event of his flight. The parliament unanimously voted to remove him from power. I think it’s not good to refer to the president of Kosovo, which Russia is not recognized as.
    3. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 24 January 2018 14: 29 New
      +5
      Are you "weakly" trying to take chtoli? Do you think we’ll do it? Awesome man))
      1. sd68
        sd68 24 January 2018 21: 51 New
        0
        nothing depends on those on this site.
        and I just state
    4. Lacoste
      Lacoste 25 January 2018 00: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: sd68
      But obviously they’re embarrassed to hold a referendum

      Ahah) the saloed hopes that Crimea will return someday) well, well) hope and wait) and do not forget to kiss the American ass for money.
    5. perm23
      perm23 26 January 2018 06: 21 New
      0
      And let's hold a repeat presidential election in Ukraine. with Russian observers.
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 24 January 2018 14: 09 New
    +4
    Crimeans did not understand lol - they are invited to hold a referendum on the UN! wassat How best to bring this LLC to mind! lol Do not offer options with transfer to the territory of Russia! am
    1. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 24 January 2018 14: 23 New
      0
      Do not offer options with transfer to the territory of Russia
      Why not? Move to Yalta, it’s warm there, let them stay there, otherwise even crocodiles froze in the states this year!
  6. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 24 January 2018 14: 12 New
    +5
    Let PACE in full force, it is possible with the UN, come to Crimea and listen to what the people will tell them - whether they want to go back to the ground ... Otherwise, any result of any vote that would not be in favor of the opinion of the sanctioners will be rejected by them under the pretext distrust in the reliability of the results.
    1. perm23
      perm23 24 January 2018 14: 47 New
      +1
      They would have taken it right and arrived and talked with people.
      1. sd68
        sd68 24 January 2018 21: 53 New
        0
        yeah. and then those who said it wrong will suddenly turn out to be extremist terrorists?
        everyone understands this
  7. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 24 January 2018 14: 13 New
    +5
    I think we can figure it out without the English lords
    - correctly. We will understand without snotty.
  8. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 24 January 2018 14: 14 New
    +4
    First, let the Americans ask the will of the indigenous population that they destroyed and drove the survivors to the reservation.
  9. NEXUS
    NEXUS 24 January 2018 14: 17 New
    +9
    On the eve of a member of the House of Lords of the British Parliament, Richard Balfe from the rostrum of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe expressed the idea of ​​holding a UN referendum in the Crimea, so that people "freely expressed their will."

    And let's hold a second referendum on the disconnection of Scotland in the UN, so that people "freely express their will"?
    1. sd68
      sd68 24 January 2018 21: 53 New
      +1
      let's do it.
      1. vasya.pupkin
        vasya.pupkin 25 January 2018 13: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: sd68
        let's do it.

        When you "dream, change your hands, otherwise you'll rub the corns."
  10. loginovich
    loginovich 24 January 2018 14: 17 New
    0
    A second referendum on the status of Crimea is not required, as the Crimeans already made their choice in 2014 and do not intend to prove anything to anyone, said Deputy Prime Minister of the Crimean government Dmitry Polonsky

    Authoritative mister. I am afraid that not holding a referendum rests only on Putin’s will. They’ll buy the rest. None of them took the laurels of Putin’s ally on the annexation of Crimea. I don’t have 100% confidence that the referendum will not take place.
  11. Rusland
    Rusland 24 January 2018 14: 17 New
    +8
    Where you used to be.
  12. Masya masya
    Masya masya 24 January 2018 14: 19 New
    +6
    Well, they are narrow-minded, they don’t understand the first time ... wink

    POINT!!!
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 24 January 2018 19: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Well, they are narrow-minded, they don’t understand the first time ... wink

      POINT!!!

      And the moon is ours too
      And generally speaking:
  13. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 24 January 2018 14: 23 New
    +1
    Where does this lord climb? PACE also let them shave, “yesterday” they deprived us of their votes at the meetings, “today” they want us to pay a share for the assembly and “tomorrow” they want to drop into our Crimea, and it turns out that even our opinion is not asked ...
    Anglo-Saxons ...
  14. Piramidon
    Piramidon 24 January 2018 14: 25 New
    +4
    If you listen to every Western balabol, then a referendum in the Crimea should be held once a week, every Saturday.
  15. flicker
    flicker 24 January 2018 14: 30 New
    +3
    Lord urgently cleansing enema ... so that stupid thoughts did not visit his bright head.
  16. Ren
    Ren 24 January 2018 14: 42 New
    +1
    Does Britons have a short memory? It is better to send a postcard from Sevastopol to all the Lords and sign:
    "From Russia with love":
  17. perm23
    perm23 24 January 2018 14: 46 New
    +3
    It may simply recognize the results of the referendum on the preservation of the USSR.
    1. sd68
      sd68 24 January 2018 21: 54 New
      0
      and what will it give?
      USSR self-dissolved
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 24 January 2018 22: 50 New
        +3
        Quote: sd68
        USSR self-dissolved

        Yeah, and the king in 1916, he himself withdrew, and in the 45th, Hitler shot himself from nothing to do. I understand that in your life, everything happens by itself.
        1. vasya.pupkin
          vasya.pupkin 25 January 2018 13: 09 New
          +3
          Quote: Orionvit
          Quote: sd68
          USSR self-dissolved

          Yeah, and the king in 1916, he himself withdrew, and in the 45th, Hitler shot himself from nothing to do. I understand that in your life, everything happens by itself.

          In Odessa, people burned themselves, in the Donbas they fired on themselves, and in the dill of Ukraine, the Natsiks themselves turned into Jews ...
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 25 January 2018 13: 33 New
            0
            From the point of view of Svidomo Ukrainians goes like this.
  18. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 24 January 2018 14: 48 New
    0
    He doesn’t sit on the pope exactly, he wants to teach everyone, he is trying to impose his stupid ideas on everyone! And who is he to interfere in the internal affairs of Russia? And what is his dog's concern for our Crimea, for the will of the people of Crimea? Correctly "shaved" this "lost in time", it is time for him to forget that Britain is something and someone rules! It would not be bad for these figures to sort out their British affairs, and only then, if of course they allow him, try to give us advice! Moreover, our President clearly stated that the question of Crimea is “put to an end” and this is not subject to discussion !!!!
  19. Odysseus
    Odysseus 24 January 2018 14: 53 New
    0
    Correctly said. But it would be even more correct, in general, to ignore such "proposals." Why on earth should we respond to some "English lord" saying something at the PACE session.
  20. 1536
    1536 24 January 2018 15: 12 New
    0
    Well done Crimeans! They repulsed the arrogant enemy.
    The British, however, would have to think not only about leaving the EU, but also about ensuring the rights of the residents of Ulster, who are being infringed to this day. And nobody cares, because the monarchical government of this country bought and intimidated politicians and public opinion in the world. And such statements by some Lords, "fake news" from this country, distributed by state channels, only create fog around the flagrant violation of human rights in the UK.
    By the way, what about doping with athletes from the UK. Also shut up?
  21. Nemesis
    Nemesis 24 January 2018 16: 19 New
    0
    Russia conquered Crimea from Turkey, and under a peace treaty between Turkey and Russia, Crimea returns to Turkey if Russia renounces Crimea ... Legally, Crimea can be either Russian or Turkish, but not Ukrainian, not American and not English .. . So let these gentlemen, from London, roll up a lip ... Crimea in Russia and rightly so!
    1. sd68
      sd68 24 January 2018 21: 56 New
      0
      it’s such a mossy stupid thing to read awkwardly. the usual fake, as they say
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 24 January 2018 23: 11 New
        +2
        ALL Ukraine on the map of 1654 and disagree with this mossy stupidity.
  22. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 24 January 2018 16: 27 New
    +1
    Is this some sort of small-shaving to prove something? Who are they?
  23. NF68
    NF68 24 January 2018 18: 02 New
    0
    Nekhay, the British advocate for a referendum in Scotland on whether Scotland residents agree to secede from Britain.
    1. sd68
      sd68 24 January 2018 21: 57 New
      0
      they spent.
      but the Scots have always had such a right, they are a separate nation
  24. Dormidont
    Dormidont 24 January 2018 21: 34 New
    0
    We need to demand from the stands of the United Nations a second referendum on the independence of Scotland
  25. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 January 2018 02: 17 New
    +1
    The status of a lord gives absolutely no rights to tell Crimeans how to be and what to do. I think we’ll figure it out even without the English Lords, ”said the Deputy Prime Minister.

    ... short and clear - there is nothing to poke your nose out of your business laughing laughing laughing
  26. vasya.pupkin
    vasya.pupkin 25 January 2018 13: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: sd68
    nothing depends on those on this site.
    and I just state

    You are not "simple", but specially troll, because. you are a regular fakeometi to prove to you that something is "throwing beads ..." Jump and feel better.