Gods of war yesterday

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With the filing of enthusiastic media and the department of General Konashenkov, the inexperienced man in the street had a strong opinion that it was the Russian Aerospace Forces that belonged to the honorary title of the main destroyers of bandit groups and terrorist groups in Syria. However, this is not entirely true.

Of course, it was our VKS that turned the tide, swinging the scales in the opposite direction and firmly pressing their bowl to the floor, hitting the main and key objects of the terrorists. At the same time, this whole process clearly shows how the current high-tech war differs from the war of yesterday, since such tasks are solved by a smaller outfit of forces that are beyond the power of large military formations.



As an example, we can cite the actions of our aviation in the zone of responsibility of the Damascus exhaust gas (one-third of the territory of Syria) in November-December 2016 compared to Syrian aviation and artillery. The share of artillery in fire damage was 73%, aviation of the ATS SAR - 14%, and aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces - 13%.
Gods of war yesterday

At the same time, the number of sorties made by the aircraft of the SAR Armed Forces was almost X times the number of departures of the aviation of the VKS RF, 8 and 652 of the departure, respectively. Roughly speaking, modern aviation operates 84 times more productively than the old, outdated, armed with the Syrians.

It can be seen that the main role is played, as before, by the artillery and the queen of the fields - the infantry, which accounted for 73% of the targets hit. Therefore, it will be interesting to consider a little more detail in the artillery component and, usually not as widely reported as beautiful and spectacular air strikes.

First of all, it should be noted that artillery fire is carried out from previously prepared firing positions, which are equipped in the same places, and practically no movement of artillery takes place, with the exception of the RSG artillery units that were able to create and successfully used mixed artillery units (SmAG ) to concentrate artillery fire, in order to effectively defeat enemy targets in their area of ​​responsibility.

Not the most pleasant feature of the Syrian gunners is the lack of reconnaissance equipment, which allows artillery reconnaissance further than 2-4 km, which determines the main task of firing, “reducing the activity of illegal armed groups,” that is, if there is no activity from the militants the target has become unobservable.


Artillery is dispersed in areas of responsibility and areas of 1-2 guns at the firing position (combat vehicle, mortar). As a consequence, the use of artillery is carried out by 1-2 guns at a rate of 1-2 projectile at a target, which does not allow to achieve the required degree of fire damage and practically does not produce results in counter-battery (counterminet) combat.

At the same time, the preparation of data for firing and the correction of fire is carried out using the Battery artillery program, which can significantly reduce the time for calculating installations. The time spent on the calculation of proofs is from 10 to 20 seconds.

It should be noted the positive aspects of the combat use of Syrian artillery guns:

- The personnel of artillery units fully knows and uses in practice their duties.
- the developed artillery program allows in the shortest possible time, with the maximum accuracy to carry out the calculation of installations and to carry out fire destruction of the enemy.
- The personnel pay due attention to the maintenance of guns (combat vehicles).
- engineering equipment, security and defense of artillery firing positions is carried out in full.

However, the problems are much more.

Thus, the dispersed location of artillery does not allow creating an effective system of artillery fire, as a rule, artillery uses only one type of fire - fire on a separate target, which significantly reduces the results of enemy fire engagement.

A typical problem is the extremely low manning capacity of artillery units - not higher than 40%. Ballistic training calculations of guns that are outside the PPD (seconded) are not engaged.

There are no technical means of artillery reconnaissance (only binoculars, compass and rangefinders are available).

Amendments to the deviation of the initial velocity of the projectiles due to wear of the bore are not specified (there are no PZK).

Topographical geodetic binding is performed by GPS navigator, which gives a median error up to 50 meters. The terrain, as a rule, is poor in geodetic terms and is characterized by a low density of geodetic network points. The absence of meteorological stations in the artillery units makes meteorological training impossible. Corrections for deviations of weather conditions from tabular ones are calculated only for air temperature and atmospheric pressure, and in most cases the fire opens on topographic data.

The absence of a military contact line, the tactics of guerrilla war makes it almost impossible to control TGPs by means of a senior commander, as well as laying theodolite and bussel moves, making direct and reverse serifs.

The widespread shortage of artillery ammunition (up to 0,1 bk on the gun) is superimposed on the low quality of foreign-made ammunition. At the same time there are a large number of different batches of charges in firing positions, and the shots have different ballistic characteristics of even one batch.


The Russian group, being "sharpened" mainly for air support, does not have a large number of artillery ammunition, but supplies the Syrians with what they have, shipping them to about one and a half thousand tons of ammunition per month. But this is clearly not enough, so the Syrians have to very often use their own production of ammunition, made in artisanal conditions.
Mine production workshop
Ammunition Workshop
Production of shrapnel shells
Shrapnel Filling Ammunition
Forms for the production of mines
Smelting min
Billet min
Equipped mines

It is curious that amateurism is manifested in everything, not only in artillery, but also in aviation. The lack of a technologically advanced production of aviation munitions and trained specialists for their production does not allow the manufacture of aviation weapons of the required quality that can effectively hit specified targets. The use of Syrian-made munitions (manufactured by the “artisanal” method of a wide range from 50 to 1200 kg with unknown ballistic characteristics) affects the accuracy of the use of these ammunition. For example, horror fighters are also made into bomb-fighters dropped from helicopters on fighters.
Air Drum Bombs
Aviation Bombs
Making a barrel bomb
Attachment option bombs
High-explosive aerial bombs for use with aircraft - analogue of Russian OFAB-250
Ammunition "barrel" 1000 kg, prepared for combat use in the cabin of the Mi-8 helicopter
Helicopter ammunition of various sizes prepared for suspension
Small caliber bombs with split warheads
Ammunition "barrel" weight 400 kg
Penetrating ammunition made from a gun barrel
Pneumatic feeder ammunition
Preparation of pneumatic feeder for use
Pneumatic feeder ammunition in action

Militants are also not asleep, and with ecstasy they indulge in the manufacture of all sorts of vunderväffles, having workshops mainly in the tunnels they have opened (about them in the next article). The armaments and ammunition made by the illegal armed groups sometimes have great destructive power, but because of their low accuracy they bring little efficiency and strike mainly civilian objects.
Making mortar mines
Mortar billets
IED volumetric lesion
Installation for throwing homemade grenades
"Jihad-bazooka" SSA
"Jihad Arrows"
Rolling mortar
Homemade jet ammunition
Homemade installation for firing
Rapier guidance method
GPS pointing method
MLRS on pickup
Installing a helicopter PU NUR on pickup
Firing from the MLRS mounted on a pickup truck
Firing from a homemade mortar

With a decrease in the number of operating gangs and their mutual confrontation, the Syrian army had the opportunity to use artillery weapons more effectively, concentrating more weapons and MLRS in given directions and providing them with increased ammunition for regular shots. However, the “war of yesterday”, which is characterized by the massive production of deadly artisanal ammunition, continues and apparently lasts until the complete destruction of the organized structure of terrorist groups.
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  1. +4
    24 January 2018 06: 18
    The need for invention is cunning .....
    1. +11
      24 January 2018 07: 46
      To the author Andrei Payusov, huge respect. Very worthy and clear review.
      1. +4
        24 January 2018 08: 51
        Really nice review. I looked at the photo and remembered
      2. 0
        24 January 2018 13: 51
        > Very decent and clear overview

        it’s just a recount of the combat work of the gunners, with which any ordinary gunner is familiar. And most of these problems with equipment and training can be solved in a couple of months.
        The only thing is that there are all kinds of barrel wear and the quality of ammunition are real and fatal problems
        1. 0
          24 January 2018 14: 21
          This is not just a review, but a review made with love tongue
          1. 0
            24 January 2018 14: 25
            > This is not just a review, but a review made with love

            The elimination of most of the problems listed there is not worth a damn, and the author should have said
  2. +5
    24 January 2018 06: 25
    The share of artillery in fire damage was 73%, aircraft of the ATS SAR - 14%, aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces - 13%.
    A comparison of the quality of goals? Are mortar crews and ammunition depots equivalent? And the possibility of destroying targets at large distances in the rear?
  3. +3
    24 January 2018 06: 38
    Very interesting article. True, the author’s conclusions that the ineffective primitive control of artillery fire in a compartment with dispersal and single use of artillery systems is used are from the peculiarities of the war in this region. Fighting there is carried out by small highly maneuverable groups to strike which with massive fire is both costly and difficult. Despite the high-tech military mosh, the USA won’t be able to “defeat” completely in Iraq and Afghanistan. But realizing that nothing could be achieved with conventional, albeit high-tech weapons, the Americans launched their most effective dollar weapon. Now they try to solve everything by bribery.
    1. 0
      26 January 2018 12: 17
      [quote = Monster_Fat] The United States, despite its high-tech war mosh, was never able to “defeat” completely in Iraq, in Afghanistan. [/ quote
      And there the goal was not to “win”. To make a mess, simultaneously extracting a gesheft (cut \ heroin \ oil), that’s all the task .. And they are beautifully executed! But [quote = Monster_Fat] But realizing that with conventional, albeit high-tech weapons, nothing could be achieved, the Americans launched their most effective dollar weapon. Now they try to solve everything by bribery. [/ Quote]
      it is an optimization of costs and technologies ..
  4. +2
    24 January 2018 07: 22
    And all just, some of the authorities do not consider the war in Syria “ours”! As if there was only aviation! For example, I recall that during the years of World War II, newspapers wrote "frontline notes" about the everyday life of our soldiers! Now everything is different - and power, and principles! Therefore, they remember our military in Syria only if someone died or was injured! That is, in tragic cases! And this is very, very bad!
    1. +2
      24 January 2018 09: 04
      Our military in Syria actually has families, and the war is on the hell with whom, so turn on your head and think about why the faces of the same pilots stopped showing at all.

      It’s better to calmly work out your term and return to your wife than to get into the news bulletins.
      1. 0
        24 January 2018 13: 35
        Quote: EvilLion
        It’s better to calmly work out your term and return to your wife than to get into the news bulletins.

        Do not get into the report now,
        So that we do not drink vodka.
        I'm in a pan,
        Used up BK

        Imitating attacks
        It's time to get out of the fight-
        After all, almost dry tanks
        And the sides are battered.
        © Nikolai Anisimov. The Rooks Have Arrived.
  5. 0
    24 January 2018 07: 29
    And those and other Syrians have something to learn from the Ukrainians!
  6. 0
    24 January 2018 07: 57
    One can only guess the collateral damage when using such a "weapon." About accuracy and not talking. And then you have to fight ...
  7. +13
    24 January 2018 07: 59


    chic man in a scarf on a turning. safer on the front line with a gun would be
    1. +6
      24 January 2018 08: 23
      good I hope he "finished" as we expect - quickly and painfully feel lol . Send him the Darwin Medal.
      1. 0
        24 January 2018 22: 17
        Quote: Mih1974
        quick and painful

        I'm freezing ... is it slow and painless?
    2. avt
      +2
      24 January 2018 09: 56
      Quote: Maki Avellievich
      in a scarf on a turning. safer on the front line with a gun would be

      laughing That is yes. And not just a nonsense, but simply no one explained in life, and even more so, there is no security officer over him. but in general they don’t know such a concept to the campaign. A sensible article good well illustrated.
    3. +5
      24 January 2018 13: 01
      He does not work on it, but is drawn. Because standing on the back of the machine. Maybe removes the part. At least a key sticks out of the spindle, and the caliper is on the other side of the "turner".
      1. 0
        24 January 2018 13: 46
        there also the turner’s hand twists the key laughing
      2. 0
        24 January 2018 20: 26
        Quote: AKuzenka
        He does not work on it, but is drawn. Because standing on the back of the machine. Maybe removes the part. At least a key sticks out of the spindle, and the caliper is on the other side of the "turner".


        I won’t be surprised if the “turner” forgot to take off his pioneer tie
    4. 0
      26 January 2018 17: 46
      If you take a closer look, he only pulls out the turner on the right side, unscrews the cartridge, the key sticks out and the tailstock in the background is a drilling machine a young arab woman of about 16 years old, you can see that you didn’t work on the lathe
  8. +1
    24 January 2018 08: 35
    Let's look at the issue of artillery problems in the complex: a) a complete inventory of Assad's existing artillery for identification of Russian (Soviet) form factor systems, b) Assad’s estimated financial capabilities to pay for supplies of ammunition and related equipment, c) political (and) opportunities for the supply by Russia of ammunition and equipment, including access to the GLONAS system. Yes, I understand that the “Syrian express” can’t cope, but the same ammunition doesn’t seem to be subject to any sanctions. good , Which means you can plunge into just a container ship and drag in the volume for at least 100 years of (conditionally) war.
    You can even sell shells with an expiring shelf life for half the price and make yourself (that is, come out cheaper and newer) new ammunition. good
    1. +1
      24 January 2018 09: 06
      You have little idea how fast artillery is dying out entire echelons of shells, God forbid, to make and bring for a year of supply.

      And express yes, fully loaded, and still not enough. We need transports for the fleet, and not useless aircraft trailers.
    2. +1
      24 January 2018 09: 07
      It would, of course, be good to flush out Assad ammunition of the Soviet era, and still do it yourself. Only, it seems, it is not very possible to make new ones, given the current state of industry.
      1. 0
        24 January 2018 16: 57
        Yes, yes, ministers have personally reported to you on the state of industry.
        1. 0
          24 January 2018 20: 37
          First, only the lazy did not write about the destruction of the machine tool industry of the USSR. Secondly, it was on the elimination of the production of shells of the caliber 152 mm that there were repeatedly articles in the newspaper Duel, years ago 10. And just recently, as a great achievement, there was an infa about the opening of a factory for the production of FAB-500-62 in Dzerzhinsk. So you can see, reported.
  9. BAI
    0
    24 January 2018 10: 23
    It is curious that handicraft manifests itself in everything, not only in artillery, but also in aviation. Lack of technologically advanced production of aviation ammunition and trained specialists for their production

    Well, what can you do if, thanks to the States, all industry is destroyed?
    1. 0
      24 January 2018 16: 58
      And then the states, if the war has been going on for many years, the reserves are used up, the capacities that were used up are worn out.
      1. 0
        25 January 2018 06: 59
        Quote: EvilLion
        And then the states, if the war has been going on for many years, the reserves are used up, the capacities that were used up are worn out.
        Moreover, the war from their submission, then the same Aleppo was the industrial capital of Syria, it was looted and the equipment was taken to Turkey, this is the fate of all the enterprises that they could reach, and that they could not get destroyed. This is not exactly not to be called a depreciation of capacities.
  10. 0
    24 January 2018 10: 29
    Crazy hands!
    It is noticeable that the best artillerymen in the world taught the Syrians, i.e. Russians!
  11. 0
    24 January 2018 11: 14
    Rapier guidance method

    Did not understand the term, in the sense of a building level?
  12. +1
    24 January 2018 11: 42
    it is the Russian Aerospace Forces that holds the honorary title of the main annihilators of gangs and terrorist groups in Syria. However, this is not entirely true.
    It seems right. But the author somehow forgot to mention in this extract from the text of the MTR, military advisers, instructors, the Military Police.
  13. +1
    24 January 2018 13: 42
    Military ikspert ...
    Your mother ...

    all of the above classically working programs for calculating ranges and turns, recalculating target coordinates for a firing position, shooting rounds of ammunition, ignoring atmospheric corrections due to the lack of airborne meteorological kits, all this is solved in half a year by training personnel and delivering these very kits, which are very simple and inexpensive devices.

    There is a feeling that all this ikspert I wrote in order to show my literacy, because these are all unconditionally components of the artillery combat work, but these problems are eliminated in about six months, and with intensive combat work in a couple of months.

    In Soviet times, even without shooting lots of ammunition to deviate the initial speed, all standards for the accuracy of target destruction were always fulfilled. My acquaintances told me that they did it once in two years, and this did not particularly affect the accuracy of the fire.

    In Soviet times, in the mid-80s, computers assembled with transistors almost visible to the eye solved all the tasks necessary for the division level in a couple of minutes and then automatically transferred them to the batteries. and on programmable calculators, these tasks were solved in about half a minute.
    What does this program consider there? 20 seconds is an interesting question, maybe some kind of particularly accurate corrections calculation program is sewn there?
    And again in Soviet times, using a bead, a rangefinder and binoculars, snapping to the terrain was carried out in 3 hours, approximately.

    So the meaning of the article is more like pushing purchases of modern artillery sets
    1. +2
      24 January 2018 14: 15
      Quote: xtur
      In Soviet times, even without shooting lots of ammunition to deviate the initial speed, all standards for the accuracy of target destruction were always fulfilled. My acquaintances told me that they did it once in two years, and this did not particularly affect the accuracy of the fire.

      What did "once every two years", "targeting a batch of ammunition" carried out? 8)))
      The expert is really "in the subject", unlike you.
      You can do without everything at all and at the same time maintain acceptable accuracy. However, the author explicitly points out: if the firing assortment is in batches, if the shells of foreign manufacturers are not clearly identified and affixed, then accuracy cannot be obtained.
      If for some reason the artillery units are crushed, you cannot get normal controllability.
      If, instead of the normal counter-battery, the principle of "several shells as a warning" is applied, we noticed you. tick "", then this also negatively affects the efficiency.

      In short, the main problem of Syrian artillery is not that there is not enough training or some instrumentation. It lies in the fact that the chiefs, not the artillery, absolutely do not understand its needs, as well as the principles of its combat use.
      1. 0
        24 January 2018 14: 31
        > What "once every two years", "shooting of the batch boepripasov" carried out? 8)))

        yes, and this is in the GSVG, if at all you understand what this means

        > The expert is really "in the subject", unlike you.

        oh lol :-)

        I’m the gunner, or rather, I served in the formation where the gunners were, and I saw all their combat work, at all stages, with my own eyes, took part in it, so ... there is such a bird, prickly - do not curry yourselves / do not whistle !

        > You can do without everything and at the same time maintain acceptable accuracy

        I talked about fulfilling the most stringent military standards. Do you understand how this differs from acceptable accuracy?
        1. +1
          24 January 2018 21: 27
          Quote: xtur
          yes, and this is in the GSVG, if at all you understand what this means

          The question is that you don’t understand anything ...
          Likbez:
          The deviation of the initial velocity consists of the gun and the batch of charge.
          Well, in the GSVG once every two years they received shells from storage and shot several pieces from each batch every two years in order to track the change in the initial velocity. What relation can this have to the situation of real hostilities, when parties are not stored, but consumed by force in a week?
          Next, gun deflection. Shooting once every half a year on the strength of a dozen shells from each gun except the main. There are more, up to hundreds. And if the lazy guys from the GSVG only every two years checked the deviation of the initial speed and wrote them in white paint on the shield with beautiful letters, this did not lead to any very unpleasant consequences in terms of loss of accuracy. Unlike real combat operations, when the trunks are fired, firstly, much, much faster and secondly, unevenly from gun to gun. And therefore they require constant monitoring. The same slam-shut gun must be used depending on the type of weapon and the charges used every 150-550 rounds

          Now, after the educational program, it’s understandable why your passage about “My acquaintances told me that they did it once in two years, and this didn’t particularly affect the accuracy of shooting,” only knows people laugh?

          Quote: xtur
          oh lol :-)
          I am the gunner, or rather, I served in the formation where the gunners were, and saw all their combat work

          Exactly what "oh lol." Either the gunners were so-so, or you didn’t understand anything.

          Quote: xtur
          I talked about fulfilling the most stringent military standards. Do you understand how this differs from acceptable accuracy?

          That's what I wrote about ... A person who ties firepower in three hours with binoculars is probably not aware that when there is no accurate meteo or ballistic interpretation, and there are obvious problems with topographic location, you can simply create or shoot a rapper . And the transfer of fire from it will satisfy any, even the “most stringent combat standard" (by the way, instead of this strange phrase, gunners use another, "requirements for full training")
          1. 0
            25 January 2018 21: 31
            >> yes, and this is in the GSVG, if you at all understand what this means

            > The question is that you don't understand anything ...

            the answer to the question was to reveal the abbreviation of the GSVG and a couple of lines of meditation on this subject. Since you did not do this, all your beautiful theoretical analysis goes in the default direction - on foot erotic journey.

            But it’s important that if in GSVG, in Soviet times, this promoted procedure was paid attention to with Gulkin’s nose, then this is her real assessment.
            But you will not understand this exactly until you find out what GSVG is and meditate on this topic.


            And therefore, I simply ignore all your other text as not having any value, although not, I want to separately note a couple of pearls:

            > A man tying a firearm in three hours with binoculars

            firstly not binoculars, but beads, rangefinder and binoculars, secondly, this is the norm, and your opinion does not bother anyone

            > when there is no exact weather

            you, and apparently, the author of the article, apparentlyWe studied the work of artillery on some kind of computer simulator, unnecessarily, all meteo for calculating amendments is an easy DMK - an airborne meteorological set, which was deployed, according to standards, in a couple of three minutes
            1. +1
              25 January 2018 21: 50
              Quote: xtur
              the answer to the question was to reveal the abbreviation of the GSVG and a couple of lines of meditation on this subject.

              Was meditation supposed to convince me that a group of Soviet troops in Germany conducted active combat operations using artillery? I’m afraid that for this it’s necessary not only to meditate, but also to use mind-expanding drugs ...

              Quote: xtur
              that if in the GSVG, in Soviet times, this promoted procedure was given attention with a gulkin nose, then this is her real assessment.

              If in the non-war GSVG with a scanty gunshot she was not given the proper attention, is this normal for active military operations ???? Very strange statement.

              Quote: xtur
              And yes, if you had ever participated in this procedure, you would have understood that it is very difficult to use it in combat conditions

              eight)))))))))))))))))))))))
              Participated, then organized. And it is in combat conditions. There is absolutely nothing complicated about this. Therefore, I do not perceive your statements and your “advisers,” to put it mildly. Here it is a very simple thing - lack of knowledge.

              Quote: xtur
              And therefore, I simply ignore all your other text as not having any meaning.

              Here I am about that. There is no knowledge, I don’t want to learn, but the sea is aplomb. And then they are mistaken for a hundred in the sight, and they have to be hidden in Zindan so that their own are not nailed. Also, damn it, the nerdy was with a huge aplomb. Decided that he is so cool and smart that you can not give a damn about control. At the position of a calculator, he had a stoker stoker.
              1. 0
                25 January 2018 22: 05
                > group of Soviet troops in Germany

                here you had to pause and meditate. And you immediately began to rape the keyboard and write shameful nonsense:

                > If in the uncontested GSVG
                > The meditation was supposed to convince me that a group of Soviet troops in Germany was actively fighting

                You already learned what the GSVG is, now you google a little more, exert your conviction on the artillery theorist and you will understand why I am focusing on the practice of this group of forces ...
                Until then, take pity on yourself for not responding 100500 times to a text whose meaning you still don’t understand, that will make your answer convincing and truthful

                1. +1
                  25 January 2018 22: 42
                  Quote: xtur
                  And you immediately began to rape the keyboard and write shameful nonsense:

                  That is, the fact that the GSVG did not fight is "shameful delirium"? Mushrooms?

                  Quote: xtur
                  Where I talked about complexity, I talked about how it takes a lot of time.

                  Processing the results obtained from the old ABS-1 took as much as 4 minutes to evaluate "satisfactory". Indeed, damn it, a lot of time.
                  8)))))))))) All the time, with the installation of the station, shooting and processing, about 15 minutes.
                  Measurement of the initial deviation using a slam-shut device for a six-gun self-propelled battery, as I recall, 30 minutes at “satisfactory”. Well, this time is generally just titanically huge, comparable to the time of the existence of the Egyptian pyramids.
                  1. 0
                    29 January 2018 15: 57
                    > That is, the fact that the GSVG did not fight is "shameful delirium"? Mushrooms?

                    keep pretending to be a "semiconductor rectifier" that starts with the letter "and"? Well, well, free will

                    > Processing the results obtained from the old ABS-1 took as much as 4 minutes to assess "satisfactory"

                    Are you pretending to be a “semiconductor rectifier device,” or is it just a theoretical gunner? But what difference does it make, one ... the devil is behaving inappropriately
  14. 0
    24 January 2018 14: 07
    The author of course laughed calling it "Yesterday's War", so all armies with a low budget have fought and will continue to fight. And it is not only a matter of lack of ammunition that the training of military personnel from a general to an ordinary soldier is low, the technological level of the economy is backward, self-awareness and morale are low.
    Another aspect of this phenomenon is that highly developed countries prefer not to fight with their own hands, but pass on this “honorable” mission to those who are poor and weak. Hereinafter, we will observe the war "yesterday".
    But you shouldn’t laugh at the “savages”, it’s generally the eternal tragedy of the weak.
  15. 0
    24 January 2018 18: 03
    The review may not be bad, but it’s not clear why this pathos: “With the enthusiastic media and the department of General Konashenkov filing, the inexperienced inhabitant had a firm opinion that it was the Russian aerospace forces that held the honorary title of the main destroyers of gangs and terrorist groups in Syria.” Of course, it is interesting how Syrian artillerymen operate in conditions of shortage of ammunition, but nothing is said about the actions of our artillery in Syria. And again, these misunderstandings regarding the rivalry of the military branches, in Syria our fire weapons were used as part of the reconnaissance and strike complex, where all military branches and the destruction of the terrorists who fired at our air base with the high-precision Kargopol artillery ammunition are involved, this is vivid confirmation of this.
  16. 0
    24 January 2018 23: 24
    Thank you for the article. Such articles should be the content of the Military Review.
  17. 0
    26 January 2018 12: 44
    As for me, this is the difference between West and East, or rather, between North and South .. Everything that civilization uses today is created in the North (with the possible exception of numbers and other antiquities), respectively, the South is behind and very much .. and so everywhere, even in the USSR nothing worthwhile and complicated was done in the southern republics, and rare interspersed technologies were served by the Vikings from the north .. accordingly, if the North / West seriously will take up the South \ East that does not shine anything ..
    pc: I’ll say right away that Russia is not West, not East, and especially not South .. We are NORTH! separate civilization ..

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