Leonid Ivashov: the United States is tired of playing the Minsk agreements

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Leonid Ivashov: the United States is tired of playing the Minsk agreements


For some reason, in the press, the law “On the peculiarities of state policy to ensure the state sovereignty of Ukraine over the temporarily occupied territories in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions” is called “On the Reintegration of Donbass”. I do not know where these words come from, because this law - and its name, its essence - has nothing to do with reintegration. Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs did not become silent and called things by their names - preparation for war. Doesn’t the scenario of the destruction of the Serbian Krajina look like? Do we not see the legislative justification for the genocide that is planned to be carried out according to the Croatian scenario?



I saw and I see that during any geopolitical operation — be it in Ukraine, in the Balkans or in the Middle East — the experience of previous operations (which are today called hybrid wars, previously - humanitarian operations) is necessarily taken into account. Corrected some shortcomings. But the main thing - everything is taken successful. And the operation conducted by the United States and a number of NATO countries in Ukraine, of course, develops consistently, taking into account the experience of previous operations and circumstances, as they say, at the scene. At first, a coup d'état was carried out, and a course was immediately taken towards hostility towards Russia, towards suppressing any resistance to this Nazi-fascist coup. Here is an imitation of the negotiation process. Even under Yanukovych, under the auspices of international mediators, the authorities tried to negotiate with the opposition, and Yanukovych even made concessions, but the radicals, who then had no idea anything, categorically refused, and no mediators guaranteed anything. Then the next stage of the escalation of events was needed. The Minsk agreements, an attempt to somehow resolve the crisis by political methods, also worked, creating an illusion of the possibility of a political settlement, reconciliation, and so on. Probably, the United States is already tired of playing these illusions, the Minsk agreements. It is clear that no one was going to carry them out from Kiev either. And today the time has come for the legislative declaration of war on the Russian Federation, for the violent suppression of all resistance in Donetsk and Lugansk. In essence, this is a law on martial law, military actions, on giving Poroshenko the authority to unleash military actions, to create military groups. This is a law on war, not purely in theory, but purely in practical terms.

And, of course, this law includes Ukraine in the system of actions by the United States and European members of NATO against Russia. The law on sanctions against Russia will be powerfully involved in February-March. We see that today the Americans are raising the military budget to almost the record level of 2011 of the year. The increase in military spending is served as a necessary measure to deter Russian aggression. The creation of two new commands in NATO, the build-up of factions at the Russian borders and the buildup of military activity — all this suggests that a larger-scale version of a powerful strike on Russia has been launched. The spiral of violence, the whirling of lies is twisted up and gaining momentum, sucking the last hopes for a peaceful outcome of the confrontation in the Donbas.

All this is real, all this is funded by the same US military budget, Ukraine is allocated 350 million dollars - primarily “for security,” as they say in the United States. Lethal supplies, offensive in essence weapons carried out today as part of a large operation against Russia.

In recent days, President Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan has been in the United States. And today came from there news on the topic that we are discussing. I will quote Nazarbayev: “We said that Minsk-1 has stalled, at an impasse. Need Minsk-2. (I will clarify that the seemingly stillborn Minsk-2 has not yet been buried, so Nazarbayev was probably referring to Minsk-3 - L. I). He, Donald Trump, says - let's go somewhere else. I say - let's. In general, it was originally supposed to be in Kazakhstan, I made trips to gather everyone to meet there. So we agreed that we will work in this direction. The Minsk agreements are at an impasse, I think. Now the peacekeepers should be brought to the Donbass and Lugansk, so that they define the border, it is necessary to draw closer to their borders, somehow to approach mutual understanding. There is no such understanding today. ”

Many were outraged by these words of Nazarbayev - they say, opposed the position of Russia. But let's admit: Minsk-2 died a long time ago. On paper, he seems to be there, there is the Norman Four (or Five), and the result is the reverse. The process goes in the opposite direction from the settlement. It is clear that the Americans are in charge of Ukraine, there is nothing to talk with Merkel or with the French president. We must talk with the Americans. And since we cannot talk with them today (Trump was not even allowed to meet with Putin in Vietnam), then let Nursultan Nazarbayev say. We need to work with him in confidence. Please let Kazakhstan be the negotiating platform. Look - Astana has become the capital of a political settlement in Syria and is gaining experience. And why not use it on the issue of Donbass? I think that this is the best option for both Russia and Ukraine, if negotiations take place in Kazakhstan.

About the purely military component of the problem. Poroshenko has her hands untied for the use of military equipment. Could it be that now, since there are no restrictions on the application tanks, planes, bombs, will we all see this in the Donbass in the near future?

Indeed, now the situation is very dangerous and, above all, for the Donbass. It must be admitted that today both the combat composition of the armed groups of these two unrecognized republics and the morale of the population are not at all those that they were a couple of years ago. Today, a lot of problems. The volunteers who fought there mostly went home. Many today are demoralized by the fact that they came from the central and eastern regions of Ukraine to fight, and at the end of the active phase of the fighting turned out to be unnecessary and left for Russia - someone to the Crimea, someone to Central Russia. But today there is a process of their deportation to Ukraine. Do you understand what a traitorous act? Russian courts are massively deporting them. I will name only one name, just today it is being discussed on the Internet - the court decided to extradite militia to Ukraine, Nikolai Tregub, a member of Slavyansk defense. If he was alone - it would be an exception. But it concerns all. People who had been brought the sword of justice were brought to me in the Crimea during my rest, and they were going to Moscow for protection. And every fact of the deportation of the militia becomes common property. Today, from the Vinnitsa and, especially, from the Transcarpathian region, the Donbass will not be protected. They have nowhere to live.

And the Ukrainian armed forces, we will honestly admit, are greatly strengthened. The order has been established, the defense enterprises have earned, they supply their own equipment to the army. Plus, the Americans supply, plus Bandera themselves buy weapons for American money. And so the balance of power today is alarming for the people's republics.

In addition, Russia behaves politically is somehow not entirely responsible. Authorities say: "In Ukraine, there was a coup." However, with the Nazi regime at the very least, but the relationship is built. And we don’t recognize the results of a legitimate referendum in the Donbass, and of course we don’t establish official relations - there are only informal relations. I do not understand the position of the Russian authorities with regard to Donetsk and Lugansk: what does it want? And I have the impression that Moscow wants to push them out, to push it out, to the Kiev regime, because I don’t see anything else.

Actually, Minsk-2 was an attempt to get rid of the insurgent Donbass and give it to Kiev - with observance, of course, of all sorts of verbal polity. But what will the top leadership of Russia do now, what exactly Putin will do now? The oligarch is perfectly friendly on both sides of the border, the trade turnover is growing, the branches of “our” banks both worked in Ukraine and are working. That is, here the “elite” has full agreement. And we know how the oligarchs influence the same Putin. The war will start, the planes will drop bombs on Donetsk, on Lugansk - and that Putin will repeat again: “We will follow the Minsk-2 course”? And Minsk-2 passed away. What will happen?

The situation for Putin is really complicated. First, the March 18 presidential elections will be held, and if elected, it will not immediately take over the full powers of its March 19 March, there will be a “shift shift” in power that can be tried. Secondly, we know that it is in February and March that an attack will be launched on our oligarchy, on the officials. They will arrest their bills, real estate, be forced to take American citizenship or be recruited by Americans, and so on. And in this situation, as it seems to me, Putin will just confine himself only to statements that “this is aggression”, maybe, that “this is genocide”. But actions are unlikely to follow. Indeed, for four years nothing has been done to ensure the security of the unrecognized states of Donbass and to make them allies of Russia. And it was necessary to recognize the results of the referendum. Not to return the DPR and LPR to Russia, maybe (well, they did not ask for this), but to recognize and sign the corresponding agreement. And to act by the methods by which we act with legitimate, recognized states - for example, with Syria. This is our right.

And now, to assume something positive, to be honest, is very difficult. Because Putin is no longer the political determination that was in 2014 year when Crimea was admitted to Russia. Today we see that pressure from the West has increased, complex pressure, and they will beat us powerfully. The pressure on third countries and companies that can cooperate with us in political, economic, and especially military matters has increased. That is, the Americans launched a decisive offensive, and in this I see nothing good for Donbass.

I am a military man and I understand perfectly well - if I go on the offensive, you cannot stop him. There is a temporary respite, the replacement of the composition of the troops, but it is necessary to continue the offensive operation. And there is one more military, offensive principle: if success was designated in a certain direction, then it must be developed, and additional forces must be thrown. In this case - to engage political, military, economic levers. Develop tactical success in operational and then strategic. And the Russian "elite" at some stage stopped and began to celebrate victory. The "winners" began to summarize something and refused to go on the offensive further. Naturally, the opposing side in such a situation regrouped, clarifies its plans and strikes back. We got it. Our resolute, offensive foreign policy is not supported by our rear — our internal condition, our economy, and our financial situation. Rear - this is our weak point. And now the Americans, as provided for by the principles of military action, are beating at the weakest point. The main blows of the other side are on personnel policy, the system of government and the economy - and the economy itself.
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  1. +7
    24 January 2018 06: 03
    And LDNR will remain in limbo. No war, no peace .... If the APU doesn’t crush them under the guise of elections.
    1. +5
      24 January 2018 07: 34
      Everything goes to the point that Strelkov will be right about the inaction of Russia. Is it weak to make a declaration of recognition of LDNR in case of non-compliance with Minsk-2 and give a period of, for example, 1 month? But the elections can be rescheduled if it is scary until March 18.
    2. +6
      24 January 2018 07: 42
      Yes, Ivashov is right. The Kremlin’s inarticulate policy will lead to disastrous results. Time is lost. Yes, of course we won’t give up Crimea, but after the possible surrender of the Donbass to our country, there will be a corresponding attitude primarily in the south-east of Ukraine.
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      And LDNR will remain in limbo. No war, no peace .... If the APU doesn’t crush them under the guise of elections.
      1. +6
        24 January 2018 09: 02
        Quote: 210ox
        Yes, of course we won’t give up Crimea, but after the possible surrender of the Donbass to our country, there will be a corresponding attitude primarily in the south-east of Ukraine.

        I wouldn’t promise about Crimea. The reasons that prompted the betrayal of New Russia have not disappeared and the same leverage will be used in the future until the end. Once again, I draw attention to: Obama's ultimatum has remained in force. As for the attitude of the population of the southeast, the negative attitude towards the Russian Federation and Putin personally is an indisputable fact, and this already takes place. For the rest, you can generally be silent. The traitor is always much worse than the enemy.
  2. +6
    24 January 2018 06: 12
    The saddest thing is that these correct words of Leonid Grigoryevich are "nowhere." The Russian "we" have not existed for a long time.
  3. +9
    24 January 2018 06: 52
    Novorossiya of Putin's Russia was not needed from the very beginning, accounts in Western banks will always be closer and “more valuable” to the lives of some ordinary people there ... Syria is much more important .... the “pipe” is involved there, too ..
  4. +8
    24 January 2018 07: 30
    Ivashov is right in everything.
    Russian courts deport them en masse
    And this fact causes not just surprise, but a flash of rage. It turns out that the Russian courts in this matter play not only in the hands of Kiev, but also doom people to certain death.
    1. +4
      24 January 2018 07: 47
      A flash of rage? It’s us who are so ardent. And those with robes and uniforms and with blinkers in their eyes in the form of anti-people’s laws and huge salaries. And none of them wants to lose this. Everyone wants to eat sweetly and sleep peacefully. Scoundrels.
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Ivashov is right in everything.
      Russian courts deport them en masse
      And this fact causes not just surprise, but a flash of rage. It turns out that the Russian courts in this matter play not only in the hands of Kiev, but also doom people to certain death.
  5. +3
    24 January 2018 07: 53
    If Russia "surrenders" the LDNR ... it will surrender its own authority of any kind ... However, to our oligarchs, as in figs for that ... Mana ...
    Eh, mana, mana, mana,
    We don’t ask for semolina,
    We are humane and gentle enough.
    Eh, mana, mana, mana,
    We are not people, but pockets,
    And pockets, as you know,
    Money is needed.
    1. 0
      24 January 2018 11: 01
      Quote: parusnik
      If Russia "surrenders" the LDNR ... it will surrender its own authority of any kind ... However, to our oligarchs, as in figs for that ... Mana ...

      How can you pass something that is not ours anyway? At least once they asked to join Russia - no, they want integration with Ukraine.
      1. +3
        24 January 2018 11: 46
        Putinists spoke the language of their Kiev partners. wink Progress on the face, as they say. Although the question must be posed differently. It is the Kremlin that wants the integration of Donbass with Ukraine, and no one is going to ask locals. Luganchan was asked if they want Kolyvan on their heads? And who appointed Zakharchenko? I will reveal a terrible secret, but in 2014 the mood of the population of the eastern regions was unequivocal: the Crimean option and home to Russia. The fact that the issue was not raised on May 11 in the referendum was entirely due to the Kremlin not agreeing on this initiative, and later, under pressure from Burkhalter, Putin demanded that it be canceled altogether. Of course, now the situevina is different, the Donetsk people are already beaten by life, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Putin, and judging by the reviews, they don’t care at all, if only this nightmare would end.
  6. +4
    24 January 2018 08: 00
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    Novorossiya of Putin's Russia was not needed from the very beginning, accounts in Western banks will always be closer and “more valuable” to the lives of some ordinary people there ... Syria is much more important .... the “pipe” is involved there, too ..

    --------------------------
    Wow, the Donbass does not need the oligarchy from the word at all. Crimea was also needed as control over the Black Sea, so I had to take it so that the ports on the Black Sea and the security of Russia in general would not be blocked.
    1. +3
      24 January 2018 08: 45
      I visit Crimea every year and sometimes, not once and judging by what I see there now, the oligarchy needs Crimea not for the country's security at all, but in order to make it his patrimony of the type “Russian Cote d'Azur” for the rich, in in the long run even closed from the rest of the plebs from the "impoverished" Russia-type of enlarged Moscow Rublevka, and the bridge in the fire order is built precisely for that ... then they will put, on the bridge, terminals for payment-type 5000 rubles for "travel" (local special passes "and voila! -and denyuzhka drips into your pocket and" cattle "is" beautiful "(the main thing is legal) the entrance is closed ...
  7. 0
    24 January 2018 09: 14
    Germany and France, as always, withdrew from their guarantees in Minsk-2, but something needs to be done. The format of Astana only legitimizes the LPR / DPR even more. The US participation in solving Ukraine’s problems from under the carpet (Surkov-Walker) is finally blown to white, but Belarus will be forgotten.
    ps. Do not forget that before traveling to the United States, Nazarbayev met with Putin.
    1. +4
      24 January 2018 09: 23
      Quote: Boris55
      Germany and France, as always, withdrew from their guarantees in Minsk-2, but something needs to be done. The format of Astana only legitimizes the LPR / DPR even more. The US participation in solving Ukraine’s problems from under the carpet (Surkov-Walker) is finally blown to white, but Belarus will be forgotten.
      ps. Do not forget that before traveling to the United States, Nazarbayev met with Putin.

      Though *** in the eye, all of God's dew. Expand us in the colors of the next HPP.
      1. 0
        24 January 2018 09: 27
        Quote: romey
        Expand us in the colors of the next HPP.

        "Rude, kid?"
        According to the status of the LPR / DPR. If you are a secretary (Germany and France), then you have one status, and if you are a director (Russia, USA), then this is a completely different status. That's clearer?
        1. +3
          24 January 2018 09: 30
          Quote: Boris55

          "Rude, kid?"

          Not at all. A statement of a sad fact.
          Quote: Boris55

          According to the status of the LPR / DPR. If you are a secretary (Germany and France), then you have one status, and if you are a director (Russia, USA), then this is a completely different status. That's clearer?

          Well, which director from the Russian Federation and Putin, Burkhalter lucidly explained to the sacred personally in a particularly perverse form back in April 2014.
          1. 0
            24 January 2018 09: 31
            Quote: romey
            Well, which director is from Russia and Putin,

            And from the USA?
            1. +5
              24 January 2018 09: 40
              And that the US is no longer a hegemon? Are we with the Allies standing in Canada and Mexico, threatening to endure them tightly? Are we planting governments around the world that are pleasing to us? Our GDP is 20% of the world? That we overlaid the American oligarchs with sanctions and confiscations? laughing
              1. 0
                24 January 2018 09: 42
                Quote: romey
                And that the US is no longer a hegemon?

                So if you personally are engaged in "hegemon" then your status increases?
                ps. Tell me, what will remain of the United States if it is deprived of a printing press?
                1. +4
                  24 January 2018 09: 48
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Quote: romey
                  And that the US is no longer a hegemon?

                  So if you personally are engaged in "hegemon" then your status increases?

                  Dear, if you are standing on the carpet of the director and listening to the flow of profanity, are you talking nonsense in justification or self-justification, how high is your status? Or do you also pretend that you are also a director, not being one? laughing
                  So what's up with the next interpretation of HPP? Whom did Putin replay there? laughing
                  1. 0
                    24 January 2018 09: 56
                    Quote: romey
                    Dear, if you are standing on the carpet of the director and listening ... how high is your status?

                    The above is no longer where. Above is only God.
                    You see, then before you, the small sholupon was engaged in the form of Germany and France, or HAMEMON HIMSELF! And in this case, it is not so important for what occasion he is forced to personally deal with you.
                    ps / What is HPP? Putin, in pursuing global politics, has no equal in the world today.
                    1. +3
                      24 January 2018 10: 14
                      Quote: Boris55

                      The above is no longer where. Above is only God.
                      You see, then before you, the small sholupon was engaged in the form of Germany and France, or HAMEMON HIMSELF! And in this case, it is not so important for what occasion he is forced to personally deal with you.
                      ps / What is HPP? Putin, in pursuing global politics, has no equal in the world today.

                      Mdyayaya .... There are no words. Only emotions. And positive. I haven’t laughed like that for a long time. laughing laughing laughing Man, you cheered me up on this gloomy morning and I am sincerely grateful. good
                      1. 0
                        24 January 2018 10: 23
                        Quote: romey
                        I haven’t laughed like that since a long time

                        I'm happy for you. Well, and how, the status of the DNI / LC - has it grown or not?
                        ps. When God was busy with Jesus then, his name is still known.
                    2. +3
                      24 January 2018 10: 23
                      Putin, in pursuing global politics, has no equal in the world today.

                      Of course, no one argues .... But somehow they quietly “hushed up” another KhPP with “Kurdish” oil for 2 billion (2 billion, Karl!) Bucks .... Indeed, who else is so “light with a movement of his hand, "profited 2 billion. .... Indeed -" no equal ".... wink
                      1. 0
                        24 January 2018 10: 24
                        Quote: Monster_Fat
                        HSP

                        What is HPP?
                2. +4
                  24 January 2018 10: 30
                  Quote: Boris55

                  ps. Tell me, what will remain of the United States if it is deprived of a printing press?

                  And who will rob them? The printing press is tightly protected with all the power of the United States. What countries are able to do this? Is it really China? So it is also not particularly beneficial to him, at least for now. Although, Mlyn, as I did not guess ... Putin and OOO RF will do this. Although no one knows how, but that's why HPP. laughing
                  1. 0
                    24 January 2018 10: 36
                    Quote: romey
                    And who will rob them?

                    And you do not know? "China, India and Russia led the Asian Bank." The IMF has begun moving its office to China, etc.
                    1. +3
                      24 January 2018 10: 45
                      Quote: Boris55
                      Quote: romey
                      And who will rob them?

                      And you do not know? "China, India and Russia led the Asian Bank." The IMF has begun moving its office to China, etc.

                      So what?! Have American AUGs also started translating under the Chinese flag? Hindus generally have long and smoothly drifted towards a strategic alliance with the United States as opposed to China and Pakistan.
                      1. 0
                        24 January 2018 10: 50
                        The World Management Concentration Center will move from the USA to China and from Europe to Iran over the course of 25-30 years. The process is already underway.
              2. 0
                24 January 2018 11: 02
                Quote: romey
                Are we planting governments around the world that are pleasing to us?

                Well, at least ... But what about the United States that Russia planted either Belarus or Kazakhstan or China?
                1. +4
                  24 January 2018 11: 23
                  Quote: Petr1968
                  Quote: romey
                  Are we planting governments around the world that are pleasing to us?

                  Well, at least ... But what about the United States that Russia planted either Belarus or Kazakhstan or China?

                  Where are we trying? In Montenegro? If you tried it very krivoruko. And the fact that pro-American regimes have not yet been established in Belarus or Kazakhstan is clearly not a merit of the Russian Federation, but of its own leadership. The mention of China is generally inappropriate. China is a great power, self-sufficient and sovereign, and not a comprador half-colony without clear goals and objectives, stupidly rushing between the national interests and those of purses of moneybags.
  8. +1
    24 January 2018 09: 46
    Honestly, I have not heard anything new. Are Americans waging war against Russia? So she did not stop. Coming? And where did they go, they yawned after the collapse of the USSR, now they urgently need to prevent the strengthening of the crumbling pieces - some crush under their NATO, urgently need to churn others from all sides, in the long term - even greater fragmentation and repetition with absorption. These are the banal truths of their strategy and principle of life.
    As for LDNR, here it is necessary to compare the situation with Crimea carefully (I will not repeat myself). What is possible and will be, they know only at the General Staffs of the Russian Federation and the USA (and possibly, partly in Ukrainian). And the fact that there will be no tough answer to the active phase in the form of an analogue of the Turkish version of the "Corn branch", I would not even have hoped in the place of the APU. At the time of the absence of the commander-in-chief, there is an autopilot, instructions and a "dead hand", especially since Dimon is not accustomed to forcing peace.
    1. 0
      24 January 2018 11: 03
      Quote: g1washntwn
      Are Americans waging war against Russia? So she did not stop

      But why are we like Ukrainians ... we can’t even recognize the USA as an aggressor and break off diplomatic relations ... they say they attack us, and we shake hands with them? Either you are talking nonsense, or the government ... I still do not understand until the end ..
      1. 0
        25 January 2018 07: 16
        We all (and you, including myself) are exactly what "we are talking nonsense." Do you know such a thing as a "brainstorming" when everything is brought into a heap, from sheer nonsense to sensible ideas? Forums are such a platform, I voiced my opinion, you are yours. I will allow myself another portion of platitudes:
        Diplomacy does not imply irreversible decisions. In your opinion, you need to say "A" ... and then what about "B"? Or do you have mugs and baskets separately?
        Everything is now allowed to Ukraine, like a fool from the fair, and ditties about the tsar, and dances with deflated bloomers. The United States is just trying to give matches to this fool, this is already unpleasant, and even European boyars began to realize the danger.
        In the end, war is an endless state, because it is ideological, religious, economic, etc. the diversity of our World has not yet been canceled. It is ongoing, but its activity lies in a very wide range, from a frozen state to full-fledged military operations. It is this very last phase and the most destructive one - “there are no buns, only expenses”, the Americans in this regard are overly carried away by their confidence in financial exclusivity, they fight by number, not skill.
        And about the misunderstanding of the actions of our government, you can freely turn to it, but we have democracy. When you talk and you have a desire to share this knowledge with us, you can freely do it;)
  9. +1
    24 January 2018 10: 27
    Boris55,
    This is already an Internet meme such: “KhPP” - “Putin’s Cunning Plan”.
    1. 0
      24 January 2018 10: 37
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Boris55,
      This is already an Internet meme such: “KhPP” - “Putin’s Cunning Plan”.

      Thanks. As for Putin’s actions, we don’t know 0,1% of what he knows. Leaders of this level can only be evaluated by the results of its activities.. And the results are such that the welfare of citizens is growing, the country's power is increasing. Wherein necessarily it is necessary to take into account all negative external factors affecting the economy of our country.
      HPP - this means a more complete possession of information by him, and the incompetence of others.
      1. +3
        24 January 2018 11: 11
        Quote: Boris55

        Thanks. As for Putin’s actions, we don’t know 0,1% of what he knows.

        Of course. Especially if you turn off the brain and turn on the First channel.
        Quote: Boris55
        Leaders of this level can only be evaluated by the results of its activities..

        Strongly agree. good
        Quote: Boris55
        And the results are such that the welfare of citizens is growing, the country's power is increasing.

        Ahem ... My personal wallet and wallets of my friends and relatives do not somehow notice the growth of wealth since the year of 2014. Although I do not argue, the welfare of the old oligarchy and his young guard of friends certainly grow steadily, and I personally am ready to sing the ode to the great on this occasion. The power has also grown so much that the Russian Federation LLC is sorry, I can’t find a decent word, everyone who is not lazy from Moldova to all kinds of IOCs and doping agencies use it. Progress as they say on the face ...
        Quote: Boris55
        it is necessary to take into account all negative external factors affecting the economy of our country.

        Do you need to consider internal ones?
        Quote: Boris55

        HPP - this means a more complete possession of information by him, and the incompetence of others.

        My friend! In the courtyard of 2018, not 2014. Such fraud does not roll already.
        1. 0
          24 January 2018 11: 49
          Quote: romey
          Does not roll

          Sorry, missed one word "... and absolute the incompetence of others. laughing
          1. 0
            24 January 2018 11: 52
            Quote: Boris55
            Quote: romey
            Does not roll

            Sorry, missed one word "... and absolute the incompetence of others. laughing

            Sorry ... And even understand. laughing
      2. 0
        24 January 2018 14: 41
        And the results are such that the welfare of citizens is growing, the country's power is increasing. [i] [/ i]
        Alas, Russia in terms of living takes 90th place, next to the poor countries of the world ....
        The wars in Syria and Ukraine took the entire Reserve Fund, as of January 1, 2018, it was completely exhausted ....
        1. +1
          24 January 2018 16: 49
          Quote: alta
          The wars in Syria and Ukraine took the entire Reserve Fund, as of January 1, 2018, it was completely exhausted ....

          Are we fighting new invisible planes and tanks in Ukraine? Have they fired gold in Syria?
  10. BAI
    0
    24 January 2018 10: 38
    As I understand it in the Ukrainian language, the law is aimed primarily at increasing the president’s powers in everyday life and increasing his opportunities for the election campaign, hiding behind slogans of protection against aggression. I think that he did not appear before the elections by chance, and his main goal is to ensure the re-election of Poroshenko. And there, not far from the old Russian focus - where it was elected according to the old laws - not to count.
  11. +2
    24 January 2018 10: 57
    Boris55,
    The World Management Concentration Center will move from the USA to China and from Europe to Iran over the course of 25-30 years. The process is already underway.

    Yeah. And after 50 years, reptilians will capture us. The process is already underway. Crap TV will not let you lie. In general, from the category, either the donkey will die, or the padish will die. Still, Putin’s cunning plan is positively akin to the cannabis plan.
    1. 0
      24 January 2018 11: 52
      Quote: romey
      In general, from the category, either the donkey will die, or the padish will die.

      Personally, I hope to live to see the point in twenty years, when the control center for the World will not be in China and Iran, but in Russia and the globalization of the World will be conducted in Russian.
      1. +1
        24 January 2018 11: 56
        I wish you success in this difficult matter. Hope is a positive feeling. True, there are grounds for it. In your case there are no such grounds. Anyway, bye.
  12. 0
    24 January 2018 12: 44
    It is possible that the United States believes that the anti-Russian and Russophobic Minsk agreements have fulfilled their task. 1) They did not interfere with the destruction of the Russian population by shelling and repression of the SBU. 2) They gave the opportunity to arm and train more Bandera.
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    24 January 2018 13: 28
    Quote from Uncle Lee
    And LDNR will remain in limbo. No war, no peace .... If the APU doesn’t crush them under the guise of elections.

    No one will push before the election, why the "king" substitute.
    And then, this is how the elections will be held.
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    24 January 2018 13: 31
    Quote: BAI
    As I understand it in the Ukrainian language, the law is directed.

    March 31, 2019 Election of the President of Ukraine
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    26 January 2018 06: 05
    another PANICER! I think that the GDP does not understand this very well!

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