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General Bondarev: The C-400 has a lot of potential to turn into a 5 generation air defense system

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The former commander-in-chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces, Viktor Bondarev, who is today the head of the committee of the Federation Council for Defense and Security, said that an existing air defense system could be created on the basis of weapon 5-th generation. The conversation turned to the modernization of the Triumph C-400 anti-aircraft missile system. The statement of the senator leads information service RIA News:
C-400 in technical characteristics exceeds Western counterparts. It recognizes the threat at a greater distance, instantly strikes the target, and is practically beyond the power of all possible means of enemy EW. At the same time, these anti-aircraft missile systems have a huge modernization potential. I think on their base will be created the fifth generation of weapons.



At the same time, the ex-commander-in-chief of the VKS did not mention the C-500 air defense system being created, which is attributed specifically to the new generation of air defense missile defense systems.

He named Colonel-General Bondarev and potential buyers of the C-400 air defense system from Russia. According to him, such countries today include Iraq, Egypt, as well as Sudan and Syria. Viktor Bondarev noted that countries that see a threat to their security from the side of terrorists and the NATO block are interested in buying C-400.

From the statement of Bondarev on the acquisition by Turkey of the Russian C-400:
(Turkey) chose to jeopardize its relations with the NATO leadership, giving priority to strengthening its defense capability.


General Bondarev: The C-400 has a lot of potential to turn into a 5 generation air defense system


Further, the general added that arms exports remain an important component of the country's economy, but this does not mean that Russia should sell the same C-400 to anyone who wants it.
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  1. HEATHER
    HEATHER 23 January 2018 17: 12 New
    +7
    At the same time, the ex-commander of the VKS did not mention the S-500 air defense system being created, Maybe the former commander in chief and not in the know after restaurants, baths and shawarma? Exactly the former.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 23 January 2018 17: 14 New
      +1
      I wonder why Bondarev was removed from the Commander-in-Chief of the VKS, Maybe talkative too
      1. cniza
        cniza 23 January 2018 17: 29 New
        +2
        Bondarev was fired because of a conflict with the chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov. The project put forward by the commander of the VKS to reassign his branch of troops directly to the Minister of Defense angered Gerasimov, who pushed the president’s dismissal.


        The most commonplace intrigues.
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 23 January 2018 18: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: cniza
          The most commonplace intrigues.

          MO is not the sandbox where you need to play undercover games.
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 23 January 2018 19: 50 New
            +2
            Quote: Tol100v
            MO is not the sandbox where you need to play undercover games.

            ... The guys are trying to show their AWARENESS! ... laughing ... they all know why and why and who needs it ... tongue ... "Jackets" on this and "scorching" ... The military man always keeps silent ... No jacket when, Kitchen Culture, he’s more and more visible from the Kitchen ... laughing ... well, and in fact the article ... well, what does not suit you to upgrade the S-400 to the level of the 5th generation air defense system ?! ... and by the way, what are the criteria for a 5th generation air defense system? ... wink
            1. Vita vko
              Vita vko 23 January 2018 20: 55 New
              +1
              Quote: Inok10
              and by the way what are the criteria for a 5th generation air defense system?

              Recently, one listener tried to me about the generation of air defense and air defense systems. He explained that there are no such criteria yet, because Americans haven’t come up with them for us yet. But it turns out belay what can I say - a pilot, they have tanks flying, only low.
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 23 January 2018 21: 18 New
                +1
                Quote: Vita VKO
                He explained that there are no such criteria yet, because Americans haven’t come up with them for us yet

                ... My Respect Vitaliy! ... hi ... as far as I understood with my mind the conversation for the integration of the modernized S-400 with the future S-500 facilities ... that is, the concept adopted by Antei a few years ago when creating the S-300B still won ... hi
            2. Winnie76
              Winnie76 23 January 2018 22: 59 New
              +1
              Quote: Inok10
              The military man is always silent ... No jacket ever, Kitchen Culture, they are always more visible from the Kitchen ... ..

              This is yes, everything keeps on you, the military. Salt of the Russian land. And we, jackets are dandruff uncultured.
              But seriously, where do the military get the money from? From the nightstand? And the food from the refrigerator? Are the houses themselves being built by the military? And who makes tanks with missiles to them? What, Enoch, is not ashamed?
        2. NN52
          NN52 23 January 2018 21: 21 New
          +9
          cniza

          You are wrong ... slightly ...
          From the jambs made, this is a miracle .. how he still held on ...
          But he set up that way, the whole flight general, that they helped him ... What I am very happy ............................. .................
          ...............
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 23 January 2018 20: 53 New
        +1
        So he went to the Federation Council, and accordingly to the governors somewhere. Oh. Just the same Brezhnev era the second edition.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 23 January 2018 17: 15 New
      +3
      What does he have such a language ... Probably politics makes itself felt. There were worthy professionals .. Swan, Shamans .. As soon as they hit politics, it started ..
      Quote: VERESK
      At the same time, the ex-commander of the VKS did not mention the S-500 air defense system being created, Maybe the former commander in chief and not in the know after restaurants, baths and shawarma? Exactly the former.
      1. vlad66
        vlad66 23 January 2018 17: 32 New
        +9
        Quote: 210ox
        Swan, Shamans .. As soon as they hit politics, it started ..

        The politics of more than one person ruined request Too dirty business. yes
      2. tol100v
        tol100v 23 January 2018 18: 32 New
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        . There were worthy professionals .. Swan, Shamans .. As soon as they hit politics, it started ..

        This applies not only to the military. There was Evdokimov, hit the politics, and away we go! It's a pity...
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 23 January 2018 18: 46 New
          +6
          Quote: Tol100v
          There was Evdokimov, hit the politics, and away we go! It's a pity.

          Moreover, around Evdokimov and Swan there is too much fog around their death. what
          1. MadCat
            MadCat 23 January 2018 22: 24 New
            +1
            Quote: vlad66
            Quote: Tol100v
            There was Evdokimov, hit the politics, and away we go! It's a pity.

            Moreover, around Evdokimov and Swan there is too much fog around their death. what

            They removed people who could really win the election. We cleaned ahead of time, no fog.
    3. rruvim
      rruvim 23 January 2018 23: 00 New
      0
      Therefore, he and the former, that the numbers of "generations" in the deck do not fit ...
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 23 January 2018 17: 12 New
    +6
    At the same time, the ex-commander-in-chief of the VKS did not mention the C-500 air defense system being created, which is attributed specifically to the new generation of air defense missile defense systems.

    Prometheus, like Nudol, is necessary for us. But the S-350, which is being sawed for some year, is no less necessary. Maybe it's time to tie up with projections and slogans, and start working? Where is Morpheus and the Knight? We need these systems no less than Prometheus.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 23 January 2018 18: 13 New
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      But no less necessary is the S-350, which is being sawed for some year. Maybe it's time to tie up with projections and slogans, and start working? Where is Morpheus and the Knight? We need these systems no less than Prometheus.

      At the moment, their functions are performed by Buk-M2 and the military S-300 3rd and 4th series (BM and B4) ...
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 January 2018 18: 18 New
        +4
        Quote: PSih2097
        At the moment, their functions are performed by Buk-M2 and the military S-300 3rd and 4th series (BM and B4) ...

        Do not remind me how many missiles in a salvo would be capable of giving the S-350 and how many S-300? One S-350 complex in its capabilities and combat power will immediately replace 4 S-300 complexes. And the BUK-M2, given its new arsenal, is no longer approaching the short-range interception system, but rather the medium-range air defense system, that is, the BUK.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 23 January 2018 19: 09 New
          +2
          And the BUK-M2, given its new arsenal, is no longer approaching the short-range interception system, but rather the medium-range air defense system, that is, the BUK.

          Cheburashka - to the crocodile Gene: I bastard green, how do you dive!
          bully
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 23 January 2018 19: 12 New
            +3
            Quote: Alex777
            Cheburashka - to the crocodile Gene: I bastard green, how do you dive!

            So I became not attentive .. not BUK-M2 of course, but TOR-M2 ... wassat hi Thank you for your attention ... really dived deeper than I wanted. laughing
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 24 January 2018 16: 47 New
              0
              Well then, another question for you: how do you compare 3 m Thor missiles with 5 m Buk missiles? Still a very big difference in length? wink
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 24 January 2018 17: 16 New
                +2
                Quote: Alex777
                Well then, another question for you: how do you compare 3 m Thor missiles with 5 m Buk missiles? Still a very big difference in length? wink

                Nothing that the Buk is an interception complex at medium distances, and the TOP in small ones?
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 24 January 2018 17: 27 New
                  +1
                  I understand that very well. Therefore, according to its characteristics, Thor does not approach Buk. No way. hi
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 24 January 2018 17: 29 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alex777
                    I understand that very well. Therefore, according to its characteristics, Thor does not approach Buk. No way. hi

                    In the latest versions it’s quite close ... in range. But then again, the TOR is still a short-range air defense system, above all, and this is its area of ​​responsibility. A BUK is an average range.
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 23 January 2018 19: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          And the BUK-M2, given its new arsenal, is no longer approaching the short-range interception system, but rather the medium-range air defense system, that is, the BUK.

          oil - oil ...
          Quote: NEXUS
          One S-350 complex in its capabilities and combat power will immediately replace 4 S-300 complexes.

          in the long run against the S-300V4 ??? will not pull - the range is not that ... S-350 is Buk's analogue for large air defense (country air defense), and not military ...
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 23 January 2018 20: 06 New
            +2
            Quote: PSih2097
            in the long run against the S-300V4 ??? will not pull - the range is not that ... S-350 is Buk's analogue for large air defense (country air defense), and not military ...

            Not at all a fact ... The S-350 has so far only been lit up at exhibitions, and only ... no one knows what it will be in the series. He thought about replacing the S-300PM, BUK-M1 / 2, but ... the same BUK-M2 did not exhaust itself at all and in the near future it will not exhaust.
            Quote: PSih2097
            oil - oil ...

            I got better ... read above-
            Quote: NEXUS
            So I became not attentive .. not BUK-M2 of course, but TOR-M2 ... Thank you for paying attention ... dived really deeper than I wanted.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 24 January 2018 17: 14 New
              +1
              S-350 is the same as the Redoubt in the Navy. Only in the Navy does it launch vertically. It should be (but as far as I know they are not) 9M96 and 9M96D for 70 and 120 km, respectively. Well, the ever-memorable 9M100, which became almost twice as thick and lost its IR seeker.
              Moreover, these small transverse rockets are so expensive .... In general, the Buk M3 looks more interesting in all respects. hi
              1. Days
                Days 24 January 2018 20: 57 New
                +1
                Do not consider it an expert, but both Redut and Vityaz have a vertical launch yes
        3. rruvim
          rruvim 23 January 2018 23: 02 New
          +1
          Well Vityaz S-350 is not yet. One can only guess. And air defense systems do not make volleys!
      2. just exp
        just exp 23 January 2018 20: 19 New
        +1
        At the moment, their functions are performed by Buk-M2 and the military S-300 3rd and 4th series (BM and B4) ...

        and Nitsche S-300V and Buk-Mkh are military air defense, and the object is an object?
        and by the way, in Buka M2 6 missiles, in Vityaz 12, can you tell me how many times the fire of Vityaz will be denser?
        but I’m silent about the S-300, there are 4 guides on the PU. (although after upgrading 9M100, you can shove 4 pcs into the launch cup, only 9M100 is a short range).
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 24 January 2018 17: 30 New
          0
          9M96 there were going to shove 4 pieces. A 9M100 should have been 16.
          But there are none. These missiles are very expensive and difficult. hi
  3. 210ox
    210ox 23 January 2018 17: 13 New
    0
    Yes, we have most weapons systems have such a reserve for the future ..
  4. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 23 January 2018 17: 14 New
    +3
    First, they would have shot down someone, and then boasted ... Here, the "Shell" in its class showed itself at a high level and the West recognized this (a massive attack of drones at our base in Syria, and I remember a Turkish fighter shot down off the coast of Syria from this powerful little things, it wasn’t much advertised but there was a thing ..))
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 23 January 2018 18: 04 New
      +1
      Do you really want someone knocked down, and you clapped your hands here?
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 23 January 2018 18: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Deniska999
        Do you really want someone knocked down, and you clapped your hands here?

        They shot down and drowned Russia ... It’s time to make an otter already, so that different mongrels quiet down a bit ..
        I'm tired of listening to diplomats and other talkers about waryness and regret ... I want a real answer, tough as in the DPRK, for example, they were admitted to the Olympics in full force hehe
        So rejoice Denisk for now ... hi
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 23 January 2018 19: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      First, they would have shot down someone, and then boasted ...

      if the S-300/400 line starts to work, then someone in the military enlistment office, and someone in the bunkers and bomb shelters - TOTAL: a big war has begun ...
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 23 January 2018 20: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: PSih2097
        Quote: MIKHAN
        First, they would have shot down someone, and then boasted ...

        if the S-300/400 line starts to work, then someone in the military enlistment office, and someone in the bunkers and bomb shelters - TOTAL: a big war has begun ...

        Well, you're right, of course ... I skidded as usual! hi
        Great comment! And there’s nothing to add .. soldier
        (I immediately calmed down ..))))
  5. bogart047
    bogart047 23 January 2018 17: 15 New
    0
    But just who is Turkey going to defend itself from? NATO cannot attack it ... no one else but Russia will have the strength ...
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 23 January 2018 17: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: bogart047
      But just who is Turkey going to defend itself from? NATO cannot attack it ... no one else but Russia will have the strength ...

      You probably forgot about Iran, as well as about Israel ...
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 23 January 2018 17: 25 New
        +4
        Quote: NEXUS
        You probably forgot about Iran, as well as about Israel ...

        they are Turks, who knows, maybe they just wanted to spoil mattresses
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 23 January 2018 18: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: Angel_and_Demon
          maybe they just wanted to spoil mattresses

          They can spoil anywhere and anyone! And everything will be done without the knowledge of the Turkish authorities.
      2. bogart047
        bogart047 23 January 2018 18: 48 New
        0
        Israel is from NATO Codla, while Iran has a thin gut against NATO.
  6. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 23 January 2018 17: 19 New
    0
    instantly hits the target, practically not subject to all kinds of enemy electronic warfare
    well
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 23 January 2018 18: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: _Jack_
      hit the target instantly

      Quote: _Jack_
      well

      Zeus himself could not instantly punish the naughty!
  7. HEATHER
    HEATHER 23 January 2018 17: 26 New
    +1
    About a month ago I was barked at the site for my comment on dismissing Bondaryov. And why should a pilot know about promising missile defense developments? .
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 23 January 2018 18: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: VERESK
      . But did not fly.

      Apparently flew, and further meteorological forecast for visibility and "audibility"!
  8. Anyone
    Anyone 23 January 2018 17: 33 New
    +1
    Something all these "generations" have already begun to bore. Reminds me of the numbering of iPhone models. Only bred on grandmothers are not citizens, but entire countries))
  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic 23 January 2018 17: 41 New
    +1
    It is interesting, and what exactly did he mean by this to say that the C500 will not be there for many years, or will it not be created at all? ?? recourse
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 23 January 2018 18: 50 New
      0
      All-weeping trolls themselves choose for themselves a suitable option from those proposed by you.
      And, there is a third one, in case of creation - it is ineffective.
  10. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 23 January 2018 17: 46 New
    +2
    Bondarev suffers from crap since he became a deputy ....
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 23 January 2018 18: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Hadji Murat
      Bondarev suffers from crap since he became a deputy ....

      And in this building EVERYTHING suffers! Either the type of cigarette packs are unhappy, then the time of the alcohol trade! It seems that there are no other problems in the country. It is necessary to disperse this overfed Veche. Snickering!
  11. MMX
    MMX 23 January 2018 18: 24 New
    0
    General Bondarev: The C-400 has a lot of potential to turn into a 5 generation air defense system


    Uh, what started?
    1. HEATHER
      HEATHER 23 January 2018 18: 50 New
      0
      This former pilot knows everything about the S-600. Dig in. You will find many interesting things.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 23 January 2018 19: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: VERESK
        This former pilot knows everything about the S-600. Dig in. You will find many interesting things.

        and also about the carrier "Galaxy" ... laughing And about the death star ...
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 23 January 2018 20: 00 New
          0
          Interestingly, it was the general who was framed ... Or he himself is so smart. With 400 at least somewhere he showed himself ... Or only through the looking glass.
          1. _Jack_
            _Jack_ 23 January 2018 20: 23 New
            +2
            With 400 at least somewhere he showed himself

            Of course, he showed how much dough was raised for export. But seriously, in our time there are no fools such an expensive weapon just for luck, it best confirms its effectiveness.
  12. Sansculotte
    Sansculotte 23 January 2018 18: 59 New
    +1
    I decrypt
    S-500 FSO, nasilili, and sawed the money
    We will hang noodles about generation 4 +++++++
  13. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 23 January 2018 19: 45 New
    0
    [quote] instantly hits target / quote]
    Well, the PR company went along the S-400, and now General Botalo has joined, a mustache - we will overtake and overtake everyone! wassat
  14. Alf
    Alf 23 January 2018 21: 43 New
    0
    Further, the general added that arms exports remain an important component of the country's economy, but this does not mean that Russia should sell the same C-400 to anyone who wants it.

    The general is wrong, oh, wrong. The loot is paid, but for the loot and the mother you can sell.
    You need to think about the benefits, but do not forget that the plant is not rubber, someone will have to give preference to the Russian Air Force or to a foreign customer.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 23 January 2018 22: 24 New
      +3
      Quote: Alf
      someone will have to give preference-Russian Air Force or to a foreign customer

      belay
      good
      laughing
  15. rruvim
    rruvim 23 January 2018 22: 03 New
    0
    With all due respect to General Bondarev, he even figured out how the 4th generation air defense system differs from the 5th air defense system? Or number: S-400 is the fourth generation, and S-500 is the fifth? Where is the "long-range" rocket (in the series) at least for the 300th?
  16. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 24 January 2018 11: 40 New
    0
    That Turkey did not have to sell, they still have not paid for the Su-24. And the fact that they are fighting with NATO now does not mean that they will make friends with us.