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The Argentine President was asked to discuss with Putin the continuation of the search for "San Juan"

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The deputy of the Argentine Parliament Guillermo Carmona asked the President of the Republic, Mauricio Macri, to discuss with the Russian leader the continued participation of the Russian Federation in the search for the missing San Juan submarine, reports TASS.




Carmona sent Macri a letter in which he asked "during an official visit to the Russian Federation to include in the agenda of negotiations with President Vladimir Putin a request that this country continue to assist in the search and rescue operation of the San Juan submarine."

The deputy also "expressed general concern over the apparent reduction in the number of courts" involved in the operation, the parliamentarian’s website says.

Earlier, the representative of the Argentine Navy Enrique Balbi said that "the deadlines for the participation of Russian specialists and the oceanographic vessel Yantar in the search have not been announced yet." At the same time, the officer acknowledged that he could not help forever. Against the background of rumors about the imminent recall of Russians, relatives of the San Juan crew members prepared a letter in which they asked the leadership of the Russian Federation to continue participating in the operation.

On Monday, the president of Argentina arrived in Moscow, on Tuesday he will hold talks with Vladimir Putin.

Recall, the San Juan diesel-electric submarines, on board of which at the time of its exit from the Argentine port of Ushuaia were a crew member 44, stopped communicating on November 15 communications.
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  1. Angel_and_Demon
    Angel_and_Demon 23 January 2018 13: 45
    +8
    Recall, the San Juan diesel-electric submarines, on board of which at the time of its exit from the Argentine port of Ushuaia were a crew member 44, stopped communicating on November 15 communications.
    if they find, then relatives will at least know where to put the wreaths on the water
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 23 January 2018 13: 47
      13
      I have a strong suspicion that “San Juan” is not looking there. And some terribly democratic know where the dead submarine, but does not say.
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 23 January 2018 13: 49
        +5
        think - arrogant Saxons?
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 23 January 2018 13: 52
          +7
          Quote: Angel_and_Demon
          think - arrogant Saxons?

          Who knows request Too much fog around the death of the boat. what
          Quote: Angel_and_Demon
          if they find, then relatives will at least know where to put the wreaths on the water

          Only now it remains to wait. hi
        2. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 23 January 2018 13: 53
          +4
          Almost no doubt about it.
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 23 January 2018 13: 57
            +4
            AAAA, is there any doubt? maybe ameplaneti? made a present for their allies
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 23 January 2018 14: 09
              +3
              Doubts are always, if not reinforced concrete evidence. wink
            2. PalBor
              PalBor 23 January 2018 14: 20
              +2
              Quote: Angel_and_Demon
              AAAA, is there any doubt? maybe ameplaneti? made a present for their allies

              Well, maybe foreigners. The Malaysian liner, which disappeared over the Indian Ocean, was never found. request
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 23 January 2018 15: 54
                +3
                these may, for sure, but they are always on the sidelines
      2. Herculesic
        Herculesic 23 January 2018 13: 53
        +2
        Paul hi -Good afternoon! hi That is, as an option, the boat was captured by a third party for some kind of military provocation, the crew was liquidated, and the explosion in the water was carried out to avert eyes? ?? belay
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 23 January 2018 13: 54
          +3
          If I knew what really happened there ...
    2. Svarog51
      Svarog51 23 January 2018 13: 50
      +2
      if they find, then relatives will at least know where to put the wreaths on the water

      In addition, they must also find out the cause of death. It’s a very muddy story.
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 23 January 2018 13: 52
        +4
        It is only if external damage, and if internal, then raising it will be quite problematic
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 23 January 2018 13: 55
          +7
          Quote: Angel_and_Demon
          It is only if external damage, and if internal, then raising it will be quite problematic

          Victor, you still need to find her. request What month are already looking for.
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 23 January 2018 13: 58
            +4
            Yes, and the bottom topography is complicated there, if I’m not mistaken, there’s a fault there, mountain ranges correspond
        2. Svarog51
          Svarog51 23 January 2018 13: 56
          +2
          They are unlikely to be raised. If an external examination does not give anything, it can (if the depths permit) and penetrate inside with the same purpose.
    3. Maz
      Maz 23 January 2018 15: 53
      +1
      Not the president of the United States, nor Canada, nor the prime minister of Great Britain, but the GDP. Like to god. No one else to hope for. This is authority!
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 23 January 2018 13: 50
    +1
    I'm interested, but the search area is at least precisely defined, or they took a certain area from the ceiling, and they are trying to find it, then what might not be close there?
  3. pavelty
    pavelty 23 January 2018 13: 52
    0
    What kind of “salvation” can we talk about? By search still okay ...
  4. taiga2018
    taiga2018 23 January 2018 13: 52
    +1
    there are, of course, two points, on the one hand, if ours finds a submarine, this will be a big plus not only in Russian-Argentine relations, but also the growth of Russia's authority in South America, and on the other hand, these searches are not cheap ...
  5. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 23 January 2018 13: 53
    +2
    Argentina has MNNA status in NATO. Major Non-NATO All - "The main ally outside of NATO." Well, let NATO look for their submarine once they are the main allies, something they do not need nafig. And why do we need this, if only as a training, for advanced training.
    1. PalBor
      PalBor 23 January 2018 14: 23
      +4
      Quote: _Jack_
      Argentina has MNNA status in NATO. Major Non-NATO All - "The main ally outside of NATO." Well, let NATO look for their submarine once they are the main allies, something they do not need nafig. And why do we need this, if only as a training, for advanced training.

      Hydrographic surveys of the bottom off the coast of MNNA. wink
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 23 January 2018 14: 18
    +4
    Would Christina Kirchner, all the rules, GDP sympathized with her ... and this Makri vrazhin still that, but if you can help if you can, for the sake of ordinary people !!!
  7. thinker
    thinker 23 January 2018 15: 03
    +1
    “Amber” has been around for about two months, as long as it can withstand.
    The search for the missing Argentinean San Juan submarine will continue indefinitely until the ship is discovered.
    http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1971880/
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 23 January 2018 15: 13
      +3
      If only again some cattle truck didn’t butt in a bot !!!
      Minke whales nearby, suddenly overexcited ???
      1. thinker
        thinker 23 January 2018 16: 22
        +1
        I looked at the service - in splendid isolation. I wonder how the search is organized there.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 23 January 2018 21: 18
          +2
          In, in, soyuznichkov came running, not to push through !!!
          - Tell me who your friend is !!! And I will say what awaits you !!! -
          It seems that the Argentines overtook the full Ms and "friendly" support!
  8. Topotun
    Topotun 23 January 2018 16: 50
    +2
    On the one hand, I feel sorry for the money. On the other hand, you’ll get horseradish similar experience in the search for underwater objects in real conditions. The same teachings on PLO. It’s worth helping the Argentines.
  9. Veteran
    Veteran 23 January 2018 17: 28
    +3
    Argentina itself needs to bring its ships to the overview search, they have only Esper-type corvettes of 6 units, why is only one involved in the search? There are other ships. Why all hopes are pinned only on our single "Amber"? They can crawl for a century and not find the submarine. Some kind of dependent behavior among Argentines. More may be asked to Putin personally participated in the search.
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 24 January 2018 05: 00
      +1
      Yuri Alekseevich, I welcome you hi Yes, a lot of oddities. To ensure search work, the Argentines allocated a ship with a faulty sonar, in fact, just a carrier platform. Other ships are not involved in the search. If we accept the hypothesis of the capture of the boat, then from outside into the storm to capture it is nonsense, only from the inside. Then it turns out that it was "sold" even before going to sea and someone is well aware of everything. The presence in the crew of an intelligence officer and two naval commandos, as well as four other unidentified persons - only they could do it. If “Amber” finds it, much will become clear, but if not? Who knows where it can "emerge"?
      1. Veteran
        Veteran 24 January 2018 20: 38
        +2
        Greetings, Seryozha! hi Considerations about the death of "San Juan". The boat went into a storm with a wave height of 10 m, it is not able to enter the crest of such a submarine wave, it is forced to enter the body of the wave. In this case, all openings should be battened down (except for the exhaust "gander"), including the upper manhole, and the air for diesel engines should be drawn through the raised shaft of the RDP. Variants of water penetration inside the hull are drawn: 1) shortly before leaving the repair, someone from the crew complained of a malfunction in the RDP mine (perhaps not tight when filled with water), 2) unsuccessful opening of the upper manhole during a storm (and it periodically still has to be opened, at least for a change of the upper watch), and a pillar of water pouring into it; for our boats it was uncritical, the water rushed into the hold of the CPU, and did not flood anything dangerous, while the boats of this type under the central post at the bottom are the AB group, and the burst water could pour them. Hence the latest report of the commander on the ingress of seawater on the nasal AB group and the corresponding fire in connection with the closure. It is likely that the damaged AB group has been disabled. Entering the submerged position, the boat launched 6 units and "overloaded" the remaining operational group, an intensive release of hydrogen started, and if the damaged group was not turned off, then chlorine was also removed. The concentration of hydrogen in the lower part of the submarine reached 4%, the slightest spark - and an explosion is ready. It is possible that the commanding staff in the CPU could be poisoned with chlorine, and the boat, becoming uncontrollable, failed to the depth. Well, in general, the true picture can be clarified only when examining the submarine, and for this it must be found. what