Armored cars "Tiger" armed with "Cords"

January 23 2018 27

Until recently, the main armament of the Tiger armored vehicles were 7,62 mm PKM and Pecheneg machine guns, as well as AGS-17 grenade launchers, but the fighting in Syria showed that even light armored vehicles needed heavier weapons, writes Messenger of Mordovia.

The Syrian military began to install on the "Tigers" machine guns "Kord" caliber 12,7 mm and DShK. Such cars modernized in field conditions perfectly proved to be in fights.

"It is worth noting that even before the Syrian events, the Kord machine guns were considered as one of the options for arming Russian armored vehicles, but they did not receive much distribution," says Dmitry Lemeshko.

Today, such weapons are installed on the cars of Russian commandos. So, Instagram of the Military Industrial Company published materials from the fall exercises of the 22 Guards Separate Special Forces Brigade in the Rostov Region. The photographs show armored cars with heavy machine guns.

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Herculesic

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23 January 2018 13: 30

Conclusions from the Syrian war made right! There is no better teacher than personal military experience!
1. avt
  
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  23 January 2018 13: 33
  
  Quote: Herkulesich
  There is no better teacher than personal military experience!
  
  Yes!? Was it hard to learn from other people's experience? On the Humvee something else in ,, Desert Storm, ”the Browning stood 50th caliber.
  1. Maz
    
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    23 January 2018 14: 07
    
    You would still remember Chechnya, Napoleon, Genghis Khan, the Sumerians ...
    Quote: avt
    Quote: Herkulesich
    There is no better teacher than personal military experience!
    
    Yes!? Was it hard to learn from other people's experience? On the Humvee something else in ,, Desert Storm, ”the Browning stood 50th caliber.
    1. avt
      
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      23 January 2018 14: 09
      
      Quote: Maz
      Sumerians ...
      
      The Sumerians put the DShKs on the gifted Hammers, but for the lack of the necessary supplies, Maxim can also.
      1. tol100v
        
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        23 January 2018 20: 30
        
        Quote: avt
        The Sumerians put the DShKs on the gifted Hammers, but for the lack of the necessary supplies, Maxim can also.
        
        Or is it better to put the Volcanoes? Then the reverse gear on the car is not required!
  2. faiver
    
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    23 January 2018 16: 33
    
    Well, these browning still stood on Lend-Lease armored personnel carriers
2. bouncyhunter
  
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  23 January 2018 13: 35
  
  Vitalievich The invaluable Syrian experience is generalized and accumulated, as a result - improvements to existing models.
  1. Grandfather
    
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    23 January 2018 13: 44
    
    Armored cars "Tiger" armed with "Cords"
    -Count with the "armature" -the solved thing. and then they brought here ... enough 7,62-not enough ... it’s clear that LITTLE.
    1. Alexander War
      
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      23 January 2018 14: 23
      
      7,62mm is not enough, in Syria it is proved by shahid mobile phones And experience in Syria proved that BMPT is needed
  2. tchoni
    
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    23 January 2018 14: 05
    
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    Conclusions from the Syrian war made right!
    
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    The invaluable Syrian experience is generalized and accumulated, as a result - improvements to existing models.
    
    But I’m embarrassed to ask: AKUDA CHICHENSKY, AFGHANIAN, GEORGIAN AND OTHER KARABAKH EXPERIENCE HAPPENED?
    And yet, life is being tempted to chop up our generals in this spirit: Manstein, Guderian and the other generals of the Führer did not have anything. all the exercises on the maps were carried out, if they practiced something in practice, then they had cars, sheathed with plywood, instead of tanks, and mail planes instead of bombers. And yet they managed to accumulate experience worthy to bend the geyropu. And our something cannot survive without war, the fact that the best is the enemy of the good.
3. Now we are free
  
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  23 January 2018 13: 57
  
  Slaaaava to you I ... tsa! Finally, what has been done has been done for so long. This is certainly better than the regressive (in my opinion) way of installing the KP on an UAZ open to all winds in a miserable attempt to copy the Tayotachanks that have become legendary. Still to make the turret with the “Kord” remotely controlled, but it’s somehow ridiculous for the commandos to get a bullet in the forehead by shooting from the “Kord” in 2018 ...
  The Americans, how many on their HamVi turrets for Browning did not stick around with portholes (at the end the turret resembled an orbital module), did not achieve the tolerable protection of the machine gunner.
  The tiger is a wonderful machine for its purposes, large and comfortable inside with a protected capsule and the ability to replace the driver when injured, with a "half-meter of life" in front, which often saves from mines. Moreover, it is very gratifying that it was he and not all Iveka, etc. went into series and is today a relatively single armored car. Of the minuses, it can be noted that the lack of a full V shaped bottom for better mine protection and eternal problems (almost all of Russian technology) with the engine, but on the latest models seem to be able to solve this problem;)!
  1. Ryazan87
    
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    23 January 2018 16: 57
    
    Quote: Now we are free
    with protected capsule
    
    Can I tell you more about this? I will fill the knowledge gaps.
    Or from here firewoods - http://army-news.ru/2011/08/tajfun-budushhee-voen
    noj-avtotexniki /?
4. x.andvlad
  
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  23 January 2018 14: 12
  Today, such weapons are installed on the cars of Russian commandos.
  In the "West 2017" as the "Lynx" with the "Cords" lit up. Apparently, this version of armament on armored vehicles is quite effective.
  1. Alexander War
    
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    23 January 2018 14: 25
    
    It's true, not with Cord but with protection
    1. x.andvlad
      
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      23 January 2018 15: 01
      
      So I wanted to recall that with such an unsafe placement of the arrow he would not have been hindered by any kind of protection. Apparently, engineers are already working on this. And it is right.
Evil 55

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23 January 2018 13: 35

Well, what, the capabilities of the machine allow ... why not use the platform as a carrier of more effective weapons.
Alexander War

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23 January 2018 13: 36
So already the Tigers with BM Crossbow with the Kord machine gun!
1. Grandfather
  
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  23 January 2018 13: 46
  
  Quote: Alexander War
  So already the Tigers with BM Crossbow with the Kord machine gun!
  
  we have how: where they go and where they don’t go ... remnants.
taiga2018

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23 January 2018 13: 45

this is only one of the conclusions of the rich Syrian experience ...
Alexey-74

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23 January 2018 13: 50

I also think the Tiger is not an easy cart, and you need to put a large caliber on it, more efficiently.
sanek45744

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23 January 2018 15: 52

And what about the CPV and even better automatic gun based on it!?
1. brr1
  
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  23 January 2018 17: 05
  https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2088443.html it's all right?
rumpeljschtizhen

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23 January 2018 16: 35

and after a couple of years they will understand that it is necessary to install the guards on the machine gun. ETOGES is so hard to understand right away.
Our MOs have never seen a photo and video of Amrov equipment with 50 caliber with protection around the shooter. There was no Iraq and Afghanistan
1. Ryazan87
  
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  23 January 2018 17: 01
  Why? you must first get such an experience yourself:
  1. brr1
    
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    23 January 2018 17: 19
    
    this is called: Why on a boomerang, we have a rake
afrikanez

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23 January 2018 17: 27

It turns out. that without the Syrian experience to "think" about installing "CORD" on the "Tiger", was it difficult or what? All the same, the Russian proverb about roasted rooster is strong. It seems that most likely this is due to cost savings. Those. soldier "im" not at all sorry in that case?
1. ProkletyiPirat
  
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  23 January 2018 21: 35
  
  What in the USSR (after the 60s) what in the Russian Federation, all military developments go on three principles
  1) do as they have
  2) make it bigger and cheaper
  3) that's when you do then we will give money
  But they don’t want to think with the head of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, or rather, maybe someone there is thinking, and even with his head, only there’s no sense in it.