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Israel has put Italy a second DRLO aircraft and control CAEW

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The Israeli Defense Ministry and the association Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) handed over to the Italian Air Force the second of two CAEW G550 (Italian designation E-550А), ordered based on Gulfsream G550 administrative aircraft, reports bmpd with reference to IsraelDefense.




“The agreement on the supply of two DRLO airplanes to Italy and CAEW G550 control worth 850 million was one of the three counter-offset compensation agreements of July 2012 for the Israeli Air Force 30 training and combat aircraft M-346 Master produced by the Italian Finmeccanica group (now the company Leonardo) ", - said the resource.

CAEW G550 is equipped with the Israeli radar complex IAI Elta EL / W-2085 with conformal antennas with AFAR, as well as radio and radio intelligence complexes.

It is reported that “Italy became the fourth operator of CAEW G550 aircraft after the Israeli Air Force (two aircraft bearing the Israeli name Eitan, delivered in 2008), the Singapore Air Force (four aircraft delivered in 2010-2014) and the US Navy (one aircraft in 2017 year for use to accompany missile tests like the Soviet SKIP aircraft). ”

The first plane the Italian military received in December 2016. Both cars will be part of the 71st aviation group of the 14th regiment stationed at the Pratica di Mare airbase near Rome. The aforementioned air group also includes several aircraft of radio and electronic reconnaissance and electronic warfare Alenia G.222VS / TCM and Piaggio P.180 Avanti II.
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Italy's Ministry of Defense
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  1. Gray brother
    Gray brother 23 January 2018 13: 09
    +1
    The Italians completely underestimated.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 23 January 2018 13: 12
      +9
      Quote: Gray Brother
      The Italians completely underestimated.

      Really. 850 Lyamas paid, finally homeless people
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 23 January 2018 13: 16
        +2
        Quote: Chertt
        Really. 850 Lyamas paid, finally homeless people

        Well, a business class plane after all. Thing status.
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 23 January 2018 13: 19
          +2
          Quote: Gray Brother
          so business class aircraft

          Alle citizen, we are losing you .... what business class are you talking about stewardess and martini
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 23 January 2018 14: 04
            +1
            Quote: Chertt
            what business class are you talking about stewardesses and martinis

            Well, that’s understandable. Is there a jacuzzi there?
            1. Chertt
              Chertt 23 January 2018 19: 09
              0
              Quote: Gray Brother
              Is there a jacuzzi there?

              Sorry, I didn’t understand your joke hi
      2. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 23 January 2018 13: 16
        +2
        Yes, fellow Jews, technology advances ahead ... It's time to share with us!
      3. Herculesic
        Herculesic 23 January 2018 13: 19
        +3
        Yes, now these bucks each trillions lol ! Some have generally 20 trillion dollars - the truth, debt, but they are such bugs wassat what to them and annul it for long! wassat
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 23 January 2018 13: 23
          0
          Quote: Herkulesich
          what to them and annul it for long!

          Delov then, another provocation, such as the "twin towers" will be arranged, an emergency will be introduced, and "I forgive everyone I owe"
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 23 January 2018 13: 16
    +3
    So much for the competition with the Americans! The Israelis will grab such a piece of the arms market with a glanders that not only we but the Chinese will envy hi
    1. _Jack_
      _Jack_ 23 January 2018 13: 20
      +1
      Well, for now, even the Chinese, up to the volume of our arms exports, are very good. far, not to mention Israel. But the fact that Israel strides with very big steps in the field of modern high-tech weapons can not be argued.
    2. Maz
      Maz 23 January 2018 14: 24
      0
      Not competitors to the Americans, Herculesych, but the American industrial zone of the fifty-first US state in the Middle East. Also cheap. Four times cheaper than production in the states of this wunderwaffle or in Europe.
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  3. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 23 January 2018 13: 53
    +7
    It is profitable to sell such airplanes.
    Over 400 million apiece. It is many times smaller than AWACS, detect and bring down
    accordingly heavier, but does the same job.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 23 January 2018 14: 05
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      detect and knock down
      accordingly heavier, but does the same job.

      Yes, it glows in the radio like a brothel on the day of pay.
      1. Professor
        Professor 23 January 2018 14: 17
        +7
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Quote: voyaka uh
        detect and knock down
        accordingly heavier, but does the same job.

        Yes, it glows in the radio like a brothel on the day of pay.

        This is when he wants to light up, and when he does not want to, he works in the "passive mode".
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 23 January 2018 14: 18
        +8
        But it shines once in 100 less than such a hero:


        "as a brothel on the day of pay" ///

        Straight envied you! fellow

        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 23 January 2018 14: 22
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          But it shines once in 100 less than such a hero:

          The antenna is located on board, it works as a reflector, and the Gulf Stream will glow like IL with it.
        2. synthwave
          synthwave 23 January 2018 17: 07
          0
          100 is that you were modest ... write immediately 9000.
    2. synthwave
      synthwave 23 January 2018 17: 25
      0
      It does not cost 400 lyamas. Italy bought 2 for $ 758 million and this is for sure including dopa. And "at times" he is no less. At times this year, more than 2 times, and it is somewhere in 1.5 less than the same A-50. And the work is the same, but not the same. In large aircraft, iron is more powerful. In short, this is an AWACS for small countries or rogues.

      https://topwar.ru/114558-aviaciya-drlo-chast-16.h
      tml
      1. Professor
        Professor 23 January 2018 20: 09
        +5
        Quote: synthwave
        In large aircraft, iron is more powerful.

        Large aircraft have the largest microcircuits in the world.
        1. synthwave
          synthwave 23 January 2018 20: 14
          0
          Yes, there are large microcircuits, write immediately the lamps ...
          1. ADT
            ADT 23 January 2018 23: 44
            +1
            At the district headquarters, in Novosibirsk, I remember the flyers complained that it’s impossible to work on this A-50, you do not so much perform tasks on it as you run blocks of me.
            True, it was a long time ago, at the very end of the eighties. I don’t know now. Maybe then something changed, especially since there was not always import substitution.
            1. synthwave
              synthwave 24 January 2018 00: 56
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              Listen, and who did you work there if they complained to you? And where does the "import substitution"? Do you even understand the meaning of this word?
              1. ADT
                ADT 24 January 2018 06: 38
                +3
                Shortly.
                Did not work, served. Z.A.S. , colloquially called cryptographers in books, I think this is not very true.
                After the Lyuli in the Lebanon war, the alliance began to sharply reform the military system. (See YouTube's “National Defense Center”). As far as I know, the system began to be created from regional centers. We called it the "zonal center." And from the communication center, which was essentially a headquarters on the road (it is believed that stationary headquarters, in the event of a conflict, are destroyed by the first blow), he was transferred to the newly created "zone center." He worked mainly at night .. They didn’t report to me. I reported. Every morning he went down to the hall (a really very large hall with various equipment and a luminous map throughout the wall), and he gave everything to the analysts that was received and laid out at night. It was at the district air force headquarters. At the same time, when the tuta came in, there were quite a few flyers operating, which I did not know there. But with my admission, they could talk calmly with me.
                And the conversation about A - 50. I remembered it well. Since he was on high tones and a lot of mat.
                1. synthwave
                  synthwave 24 January 2018 20: 25
                  0
                  This, of course, is all cooltory, only there are two not dockings. You say it was in the late 80s, and the A50 was officially adopted only in 1989. That is, if they scolded the plane, then the plane during the tests (which is not very smart) Besides what did the A-50 pilots do in Novosibirsk? The aircraft was based at other airfields, in other parts of the country. It took me 5 minutes to read Wikipedia to doubt your coolcore ...
                  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/А-50
                  1. ADT
                    ADT 24 January 2018 21: 24
                    0
                    And until 89, he did not exist chtoli? To be precise, it was around the year 87. How many years have been tested and debugged new equipment? Moreover, this level. For example, we have new items, they manage to make great war before official adoption.
                    And he is not attached to the airfield, such a colossus can fly far away. And flew.
                    I don’t understand why it is surprising to discuss this technique in a zonal center, whose task is to develop methods for working with information of various types, but primarily operational intelligence.
                    ETOGES was not discussed in the press. About the pilots did not write. Flyers. And who exactly, and what are their responsibilities regarding this colossus, I was not given to know. It was the headquarters of the Air Force with the corresponding inhabitants.
                    Why did I mention "substitution". Because there was a problem in the reliability of the elementary base. What kind of details they began to put in his equipment, I myself do not know. But the reliability of the chips was a huge all-Union problem. Have you dealt with it regarding the A-50, I think so. And then, as a result, they adopted him.
                    1. synthwave
                      synthwave 24 January 2018 21: 42
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                      And until 89, he did not exist chtoli?
                      And then it existed, did not exist? is he officially was passing Test from the moment of the first take-off in 1979 to its adoption in 1989. That is, in 1987 it was a crude aircraft with jambs, like ALL cars during test. And consequently, the whole chatter about his unreliability, just the idiot sucked out of a finger.
                      For example, we have new items, they manage to make great war before official adoption.
                      You F35 mumbled for several years and all this time he did NOT make a single sortie. Only in December 17 was it announced its full readiness. And he still has not made a single departure.
                      Yes, and he is not tied to the airfield
                      Tied. Read my links to his airdromes. This colossus flew far but always returned to the same airfields.
                      I don’t understand why it is surprising to discuss this technique in the zonal center.
                      I am surprised at the location of A-50 pilots there (in Novosibirsk), but as you say further ...
                      About the pilots did not write. Flyers.
                      If it’s not his pilots (cameramen, crew members), but just left-handed balabol who heard the ring, but don’t know where he is, I have no questions. This is the analytics of the level "but the uncle told me .."
                      Why did I mention "substitution".
                      You didn’t mention "substitution," you wrote "import substitution. "And these are different things. In the USSR, there could not be any import substitution in the field of military equipment, due to the lack of foreign components on equipment. Yes, and in Russia it was minimal if not to take the CIS countries.
                      But the reliability of the chips was a huge all-Union problem.
                      Not reliability, but speed. This electronics didn’t break much, it simply lost out on the characteristics of Western models.
                      1. ADT
                        ADT 24 January 2018 22: 21
                        0
                        What an eternal psychosis.
                        10 years of testing. and 2 years before the official adoption of crude?
                        and most importantly, I don’t understand why the outrage is surprising about the reliability of the blocks, by people who are connected with this technique? In the part that was created to work with such systems, and which at that time could be one of a kind. And her task was to develop similar technologies, including the work of a bunch of reconnaissance aircraft with information consumers.
                        Even if the system is still officially unripe. Reliability etozh are not glitches of the program.
                        Again F-35, but not that ......... except for his other equipment does not exist?
                        Yes ktozh argues that she was returning. Glory to God also returned. To health. But what does it have to do with it? What do you think, what he saw during the flight is removed from him when landing, in a suitcase with a tape recorder? Or tests do not imply testing in different geographical areas and climatic conditions.
                        What does the dyatky have to do with it? Was this conversation with me? One of those participating in it, as we say, was the most important, and I don’t know the second, but he was a flyer. And it's all. In any case, there was no chatter in this room.
                        I understand that there was no substitution, but four years later the union broke up, maybe they put a more reliable foreign union, I don’t know.
                        Speed ​​may have been a problem where it was needed. But I wrote about reliability. It was a scribe, even in the rough and simple 155 series .. this is not discussed.
                        Even we have racks .... there was a compact and modern “wave m”, they covered it with a rag, and the order was not to touch, she was sick of our warrant technician. And the old 206 rack (maybe even on lamps) worked and did not fool.
                        And if she lost to the West. it’s only in size and energy consumption. But it closed so that if you believe what they said in the textbook, then there are no analogs.
  4. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 23 January 2018 15: 26
    +5
    Yes, everything has been tested many times, on different radars, Israeli, American, English in Cyprus, Russian in Latakia, Italian - they take ... Gallium nitride (GaN) is many times more effective than arsenide for the need for radiated power at the same efficiency. Another ordered the IDF. There are tests of the second Italian.
  5. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 23 January 2018 16: 30
    +5
    Israeli name is Eitan

    I will clarify: the Israeli name is not "Eitan"-" Enduring "(there is such a multi-purpose UAV), and" Eitam"- Orlan."
  6. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 23 January 2018 21: 33
    +2
    According to the Israeli economy. publications, counter purchases of Italy amounted to just over 4 billion shekels (approximately 1.06 billion dollars at the time of the conclusion of the contract in 2012), which included the Optsat 3000 optical surveillance satellite and two Eitam.
    In July 2012, the Italian Telespazio awarded a subcontract of $ 182 million to the IAI / MBT space division for the construction of the OPTSAT 3000 satellite. In December 2012, Elop received another $ 40 million contract for the Jupiter space camera and additional equipment. Total $ 222 million. Airplanes cost $ 838 million.




    1. synthwave
      synthwave 24 January 2018 01: 06
      0
      Yes? And here (https://topwar.ru/114558-aviaciya-drlo-chast-16.
      html) like this:

      After the Israeli Air Force chose the role of jet fighter Italian M-346 Master, Italy, in turn, announced the purchase of two aircraft G550 CAEW. The cost of early warning radar systems intended for the Italian Air Force is $ 758 million

      Well, who is lying? Unnamed Israeli economy. publications or laughing ? You bought the M-346 Master, didn’t you? So, dachshunds, dachshunds ... it smacks of corruption and kickbacks. Just like with German boats.
      1. Professor
        Professor 24 January 2018 08: 11
        +4
        Quote: synthwave
        Yes?

        Yes. Satellites are part of the deal.
      2. Oleg7700
        Oleg7700 24 January 2018 12: 58
        +2
        A colleague, for me, Hebrew and English sources are Israeli business Globes גלובס and Calcalist כלכליסט The contract includes operator training and warranty service similar to Italian obligations under M-346.
  7. synthwave
    synthwave 24 January 2018 23: 02
    0
    Quote: ADT
    What an eternal psychosis.

    I just do not have the habit of believing everything that is written on the Internet and sometimes I turn on critical thinking. Especially when tales of all sorts of kagtava "friends of Russia" tell me. You, even if your story is true, did the words of these flyers be accepted as truth, although who are they if they are not directly related to the trials? That's how stories are born.

    Quote: ADT
    10 years of testing. and 2 years before the official adoption of crude?

    That's what they are testing. Less crude than in 1979, but not ready for full operation with the satisfaction of ALL requirements without restrictions as in 1989.

    Quote: ADT
    and most importantly, I don’t understand why the outrage is surprising about the reliability of the blocks, by people who are connected with this technique? In the part that was created to work with such systems, and which at that time could be one of a kind. And her task was to develop similar technologies, including the work of a bunch of reconnaissance aircraft with information consumers.
    Even if the system is still officially unripe. Reliability etozh are not glitches of the program.

    And why this passage? Once again: what claims to the TESTED technique can be? The work of people who work with this technique during the tests is to identify its shortcomings and fix them. Instead of crowing and complaining that everything is breaking down with them. THIS IS THEIR WORK. What other questions?

    Quote: ADT
    Again F-35, but not that ......... except for his other equipment does not exist?

    This is simply the freshest example that is right before your eyes, so to speak. Great for your statement that supposedly you: "Novelties, they manage to make great war before official adoption." At least if we are talking about aviation, you have fooled around here. F16 and F15 have already come to you with used finished machines. Even earlier Mirages. Apache helicopters too. All of them have already been worked out and tested by the embroidered USA and French. And right now, even your supposedly ready-made govnopengvin, they cherish whatever happened, and Syria from the Lebanese sky (as thought out, lol) will be ironed by the same old F16 (which in the states was also being developed with the squeaks in the past and to version 40/42 was a "dove of peace").

    Quote: ADT
    But who argues that she was returning. Glory to God also returned. To health. But what does it have to do with it? What do you think, what he saw during the flight is removed from him when landing, in a suitcase with a tape recorder? Or tests do not imply testing in different geographical areas and climatic conditions.
    What does the dyatky have to do with it? Was this conversation with me? One of those participating in it, as we say, was the most important, and I do not know the second.

    Stop maneuvering and writing the sheets. You did not answer what the aircraft testing team did in Novosibirsk. Nothing, because she was not there, from your own words. And all your conversations in the smoking rooms with the left pilots, even with the most important ones, even with not the most, you can interpret as you want, but you do not have to pass it off as the ultimate truth. That was (A-50 breaking shit) because "someone there, with someone talked to me," huh? This is a kindergarten.

    Quote: ADT
    I understand that there was no substitution, but four years later the union broke up, maybe they put a more reliable foreign union, I don’t know.

    So do not write since you do not know. Or just like the word? You write that which you don’t know, and when you are caught for the language you give the back? It’s ridiculous. Western models began to seep into the army only under Serdyukov, but this shop was quickly covered up. But, in general, import substitution, this is mostly a crest substitution, since basically their products have to be put on stream in Russia after well-known events.

    Quote: ADT
    Speed ​​may have been a problem where it was needed. But I wrote about reliability. It was a scribe, even in the rough and simple 155 series .. this is not discussed.
    Even we have racks .... there was a compact and modern “wave m”, they covered it with a rag, and the order was not to touch, she was sick of our warrant technician. And the old 206 rack (maybe even on lamps) worked and did not fool.
    And if she lost to the West. it’s only in size and energy consumption. But it closed so that if you believe what they said in the textbook, then there are no analogs.

    I talked about electronics in the military sphere. About the one that stood on the technique. There was no question of any insecurity and covering with rags. But the fact that she was heavy and slow was no secret.
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      1. synthwave
        synthwave 25 January 2018 20: 37
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        Quote: ADT
        I see there is also a diction of the problem, you need to do something, do not run yourself.

        Are you also a speech therapist? Do you diagnose via internet? What a talented Jewess ... But not, it's just a pathetic attempt to trigger me. It didn’t work out a Jew, try better.

        Quote: ADT
        Think what you write.

        Unlike you, I always do that.

        Quote: ADT
        People who work out work with the consumer of information (and probably at the same time the consumer was not one and that means there was more than one communication channel, and if it was also closed, can you even imagine what kind of strain was causing then to open and synchronize in a new way?), And who besides them could do this? And what, too frequent failures due to the unreliability of the equipment should not have caused emotions?

        You don’t need to mask your obser with beautiful words about “information”, “communication channels” and “synchronization”. Were these people on the plane’s test team? NOT. Could they draw conclusions about the quality of the aircraft before the end of the test? NOT. All maneuvers on this you can stop.

        Quote: ADT
        There is not even a reason for all the writings on this subject.

        It was you who gave an occasion by writing a word whose meaning you do not know. You don’t want to give a reason to dunk your head in a bucket, do not write any nonsense.

        Quote: ADT
        So I worked there night after night. And you tell me what I saw. Well, nonsense.

        Where did you work as a storyteller? Have you been a test operator on an A-50?

        Quote: ADT
        And somewhere in my posts I posed as a friend of Russia? She is completely neutral to me. There are a lot of cannibals around, even if they are friends.

        But for this chatter and complaint you can throw.

        Quote: ADT
        All further in a circle do not argue.

        Then close your mouth and do not write fairy tales, Anderson unfinished.
        1. ADT
          ADT 25 January 2018 22: 59
          +1
          A whole carpet of hysterical insanity.
          Two people related to this system expressed dissatisfaction with the unreliability of its blocks. With me. POINT.
          But you need to be a schizoid in order to philosophize so much, proving that it was not.
          1. synthwave
            synthwave 25 January 2018 23: 11
            0
            A whole carpet of hysterical insanity.
            Well, do not write anything, why are you hysterical and fall into insanity?

            Two people related to this system expressed dissatisfaction with the unreliability of its blocks. With me. POINT.
            You yourself said that they had nothing to do with the plane: "About the pilots did not write. Flyers."Yours is crowing up? Yours. Well, what are you fantasizing about then, manka? I have already chewed you about not the reliability of the blocks during the tests. Do you want to pretend to be stupid anymore, please, you don’t have to cluck anymore.

            It’s necessary to be a schizoid in order to philosophize so much now, proving that this did not happen.
            I did not argue that this was not the case, a pruned blind. Did you even read me? I argued that your conversations in the smoking-room with your left uncles, in that forgotten sharash where you worked (some sort of left-wing warehouse manager. You’re very dumb for the engineer), have nothing to do with the A-50 test program, and its characteristics after adoption into service. You can at least shame on proving the opposite, but to your insanity about how bad everything is in a cannibal Russian woman I have immunity. So drown the emigrant circumcised.
            1. ADT
              ADT 25 January 2018 23: 17
              +1
              Well ... well, like a ram to prove something. Think that you are! What kind of talk? Which smoking room? Who can afford this? Do not sit out for such chatter outside special rooms. Turn on your brain and don’t panic. What was it was, and you were not there. And it could not be.
              1. synthwave
                synthwave 25 January 2018 23: 27
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                Izya, I worked at a defense regime enterprise. Will you tell me who is talking where and where? I, unlike you, head. warehouse, there was a clearance of the 2nd level (SS) and I PERFECTLY know what I'm talking about. And you, about which you will not crow, are all MIMO. By merkava (oh, I’m releasing ...), by import substitution (oh, I’m dropping ...), by export of the Eugene amusement defense (well, we dofiga are high-tech and we make a lot of shekels, but you give everything to the cannibals for nothing and do one "trough" ) You are such a stupid beckon that before you crowed about how bad the A 50 was, you could not spend 5 minutes. reading the wiki, which exposes your craps at times. You threatened to throw me links that were still revealing. Let's go work on it. So far, it’s not good for you to troll here.
                1. ADT
                  ADT 25 January 2018 23: 36
                  0
                  Sick of this empty courage. Tolerance surprised. I lost him for the "wrong thoughts in the ears" in the screened class, and they returned him to me, the exotic is direct. ALL. Stop philosophizing on this thread. We will continue the conversation there.
                  Here is the DOT.
                  1. synthwave
                    synthwave 25 January 2018 23: 46
                    0
                    Sick of this empty courage.
                    And you are so cute straight. I would know how nice to communicate with you (no).
                    PS: In real life, you would have been without teeth right now, grandfather ...

                    Tolerance surprised.
                    Yes, I issued a trump card, I could not restrain myself. Just tired of your clucking to listen. And so now you know that I’m less subject and you will include anderson.

                    I lost him for the "wrong thoughts in the ears" in the screened class, and they returned him to me, the exotic is direct.
                    So said "thinking out loud" laughing ? Esoteric straight good . Yes, it’s probably not that you simply stole something from the warehouse, and you were nearly flooded from work, with deprivation of access. But you people are slippery, turned away. Well, and then, anyway, you have your admission did not interfere dumped in izgail for permanent residence. Immigrant you are our persecuted and offended by cannibals Ivan .... laughing

                    Stop philosophizing on this thread. We will continue the conversation there.
                    We will not continue, you merged there and here. Write in a personal, otherwise they will stick sticks on both.

                    Here is the DOT.
                    Bugagaga, how terrible you are ...