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"Shell" will receive a "budget" rocket to fight drones

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The arsenal of Russian air defense systems will be replenished with a small-sized anti-aircraft missile, which was created taking into account the experience in the use of the Pantsir air defense missile system in Syria, according to News.




“For a fairly tiny size, the novelty has already received the nickname“ nail ”from the military. Four "nails" are installed in one regular launch container "Pantsir". In the future, the novelty will be the main tool to combat high weapons“- the newspaper writes.

Currently, the new rocket is being tested.

For the first time, small-scale missiles were presented at the Army-2017 forum. Its developer is Tula Instrument Design Bureau JSC. The missiles are designed to destroy unmanned aerial vehicles and, in the long term, to destroy high-precision weapons combat units.

According to the information, “the rocket is completed with a powder accelerator detachable in flight with a lightweight body made of composite materials; the engine is installed only on the upper stage, and after its separation, the product flies by inertia ”. Four small-sized missiles are installed in the container of a standard “Pantsir” rocket of caliber 170 / 90 mm.

First of all, it is about intercepting small UAVs and single unguided rockets. To combat such targets, it is possible to use the Pantsir rocket, but it is too expensive. That is why the development of a simpler “budget” rocket was required. It will be inferior to the standard range, but it will be more maneuverable. Her combat performance is enough to cope with the tasks facing her,
explained military expert Anton Lavrov.

At the same time, in his opinion, the novelty will significantly increase the ammunition "Pantsir".

Four small-size rockets can be charged into the standard launch canister. It is also possible that one installation will be equipped with several types of missiles at once. The operator will be able to choose the type of ammunition depending on the combat mission,
said the expert.

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JOURNAL / Mikhail Tereshchenko
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  1. tchoni
    tchoni 23 January 2018 10: 02
    +2
    and she can intercept mines, mines? -)
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 23 January 2018 10: 04
      12
      It is very good that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation not only responds to existing threats, but also calculates possible ones, and prepares for them in advance
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 23 January 2018 10: 08
        +8
        It looks like this missile has passed most of the tests, we are waiting in the troops.
      2. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 23 January 2018 12: 34
        +1
        Quote: Chertt
        It is very good that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation not only responds to existing threats, but also calculates possible ones, and prepares for them in advance


        pleased with the responsiveness - as in the Second World War - conclusions are immediately drawn and decisions made
    2. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 23 January 2018 10: 05
      +1
      tchoni Today, 10: 02
      and she can intercept mines, mines? -) [/ quote]
      It would be very good, let's hope that the development will be brought to this option .....
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 January 2018 10: 12
        +4
        But this is real progress! The system is developing according to technical and economic indicators, too !!!
        It is logical, correct, economical to pull up the performance characteristics for the fight against mines and he will not have a price !!!
        However, he is already the BEST in terms of indicators !!!
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 23 January 2018 13: 43
          +5
          Quote: rocket757
          However, he is already the BEST in terms of indicators !!!

          A question of tasks and opportunities. Recently, there has been a lot of talk about Triumphs, Shells, but there is no mention of Torahs and Buki. Although these complexes are wonderful for their tasks.
          At the same time, there is absolutely silence about the development of Vityaz (S-350) and Morpheus. I suppose, from part, Morpheus drove his nail and Shell into the lid of the coffin, which is very wrong. Morpheus, as a complex of near interception, on a par with the Shell is needed. Especially in the marine version.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 January 2018 14: 57
            +3
            A variety of systems when performing the same tasks is not useful. Difficulties in the manufacture and supply of spare parts for many failed very much. Our production capacities are very limited and they are not able to fully saturate our air defense with finished products of all sorts and different, and you need to do export, lively little money.
            Another IMPORTANT NEED to dock / harmonize all systems into a single center of operational AUTOMATED control. This is now very, if not the most important !!!
            The troops and closer to the front line need well-protected, passable systems like the TOP and the like, but in general, the priorities now are probably different ???
            A linear confrontation of troops is not expected, and for the protection of objects and complexes of long-range air defense-missile defense is determined by the Shell.
            We will be realistic. Our production capacities are limited and the identified priorities are justified. To do everything and more without a harmonious coordinated system is not right.
            So it seems to me, but what did they count at headquarters ??? But who does this seem to us?
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 23 January 2018 15: 01
              +3
              Quote: rocket757
              A variety of systems when performing the same tasks is not useful

              The tasks are not exactly the same ... the TOR are the systems of military air defense, and the Shell is the short-range missile defense systems. It is clear that they can fulfill each other’s tasks, but this raises the question of price. At the same time, the TOP-complex is tested and very reliable.
              At the same time, all this heterogeneity gives this very separation and problems for the enemy to get around all these complexes.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 23 January 2018 15: 09
                +2
                I indicated the TOR precisely as an army system, armored and passable ... and the fact that it is needed is understandable.
                We can’t get into the brains of staff strategists and we don’t know how their priorities are set.
                By analogy with past events, I think. that if there is no way to do everything at once, without prejudice to one another, you can do !!! Otherwise, do what is necessary and ready for production now !!! Not I brought this truth, I agree with her one hundred percent !!!
    3. Pacifist
      Pacifist 23 January 2018 10: 42
      +2
      For intercepting mines, a machine on the subject of "Air Defense Derivation" is better suited, and on small UAVs, to be honest, it is better. But that's my personal opinion.
      In general, the news is gorgeous, the correct reaction to the situation. It is only necessary to increase the channel for goals by a factor of two, and in general it will be wonderful, otherwise 4 channels are not enough to work on mass UAV raids.
    4. faiver
      faiver 23 January 2018 11: 11
      +5
      and she can intercept mines, mines? -)
      - kanesh, especially anti-tank laughing
      1. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 23 January 2018 12: 26
        +1
        Quote: faiver
        and she can intercept mines, mines? -)
        - kanesh, especially anti-tank laughing


        I also drew attention to this - in the rear part as plumage 4 sapper blades wassat
    5. Genry
      Genry 23 January 2018 11: 56
      0
      Quote: tchoni
      and she can intercept mines, mines? -)

      This was not done for mines ... They will end quickly and the price is incommensurable.
      For mines you need a special cannon shell.
      1. Cxnumx
        Cxnumx 23 January 2018 12: 24
        +1
        Quote: Genry
        For mines you need a special cannon shell.

        not necessarily special - just one formatting unit as calculated by the mines)))
        1. Genry
          Genry 23 January 2018 15: 20
          +1
          Quote: K0
          not necessarily special - just one formatting unit as calculated by the mines)))

          If you see this calculation, despite the fact that they will already change position ...
        2. Genry
          Genry 23 January 2018 15: 34
          0
          Quote: K0
          not necessarily special - just one formatting unit as calculated by the mines)))

          It needs directional action and the fragments must be a dense cloud in order to get into the fuse.
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 January 2018 14: 55
        +2
        Quote: Genry
        For mines you need a special cannon shell.

        It’s very debatable ... here, they created the “Nail” for the Shell, but for the TOP, why not create a mini-interception rocket that would be imprisoned for such tasks?
        1. Genry
          Genry 23 January 2018 15: 52
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          It’s very debatable ... here, they created the “Nail” for the Shell, but for the TOP, why not create a mini-interception rocket that would be imprisoned for such tasks?

          The mine has a fixed trajectory and does not require a guided projectile (rocket). All that is needed is the right moment to detonate the fragmentation mass, which can be done using a timer that is programmed when fired.
          And another important point. How many mines do you expect your defense? The missile will not be enough ... And the projectile can be implemented in the form of a 30 mm cartridge. The cost of a shot is perhaps the most important point.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 23 January 2018 15: 56
            +2
            Quote: Genry
            And another important point. How many mines do you expect your defense?

            Do you think that those means of the Khmeimi defense perimeter will allow massive shelling with such mines of our base?
            Quote: Genry
            There will not be enough rockets ...

            If you imagine that there will be 2-4 mini-missiles in each TOR launcher, then the salvo of intercepting one division will be quite impressive.
            1. Genry
              Genry 23 January 2018 16: 11
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              Do you think that those means of the Khmeimi defense perimeter will allow massive shelling with such mines of our base?

              It was already splashed in the "new year."
              You cannot guarantee that mortars and ammunition will not be transported in parts and that they are prepared for the hour “X”. Then, simultaneously, a strike from different positions can be struck.
              Quote: NEXUS
              If you imagine that there will be 2-4 mini-missiles in each TOR launcher, then the salvo of intercepting one division will be quite impressive.

              A mortar in a minute will fill you with more than 40 minutes, two mortars ....
              Will you keep an air defense division on every corner ???
              It is necessary that one installation could withstand a fire attack of 3 mortars within a minute and cover the length of the perimeter of about 1,5-2 km (taking into account possible failure and the possibility of closing the gap with neighboring installations).
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 23 January 2018 16: 25
                +2
                Quote: Genry
                It was already splashed in the "new year."

                They never expected such a “gift”, therefore they were not ready ..
                Quote: Genry
                Then, simultaneously, a strike from different positions can be struck.

                Quote: Genry
                A mortar in a minute will fill you with more than 40 minutes, two mortars ....

                Apparently the same sentinel guard groups, our UAVs don’t do anything at all, but they stupidly wipe their pants while the majahideen massively prepare for shelling the base ...
                can pour a mortar, but only who will give it?
                Quote: Genry
                It is necessary that one installation could withstand a fire attack of 3 mortars within a minute and cover the length of the perimeter of about 1,5-2 km (taking into account possible failure and the possibility of closing the gap with neighboring installations).

                Isn’t it easier to work with the local population besides setting up patrol groups and monitoring the approaches of UAVs, so that at the stage conceived by the majahideen, it will stop all this?
                1. Genry
                  Genry 23 January 2018 16: 38
                  +1
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  can pour a mortar, but only who will give it?

                  God grant you to react in a minute. And they don’t need more than a minute, the barrel will overheat and the mines will end.
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Isn’t it easier to work with the local population besides setting up patrol groups and monitoring the approaches of UAVs, so that at the stage conceived by the majahideen, it will stop all this?

                  UAV reconnaissance may or may not be. They can point-correct according to bookmark marks, ...
                  Work with the public is an indirect defense and cannot be absolutely reliable. The local population may simply not see where a jeep or pickup truck drove. They have trade - it’s sacred and everyone travels. And finding a courtyard position for half an hour of preparation is not a problem for saboteurs.
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    6. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 23 January 2018 12: 05
      +1
      Quote: tchoni

      1
      tchoni Today, 10:02 AM New
      and she can intercept mines, mines? -)

      Anti-tank mines installed in the ground? After minor modifications, easily.
      All that is needed is to put a gas analyzer to search for explosives by smell, like a dog. And to ensure the mode of hovering above the ground at a certain height, so that after "sniffing out" to hit this mine at the very same place. Well, if she didn’t “sniff out”, then she should fly to another site to repeat the procedure. And so on until she finds someone to neutralize.
      Something like that.
      1. Genry
        Genry 23 January 2018 15: 29
        0
        Quote: Captain Pushkin
        All that is needed is to put a gas analyzer to search for explosives by smell, like a dog.

        It was about mortar mines ...
        There are systems that detect landmines by the radar method and destroy them with a directed beam of energy ("Foliage").

    7. Orionvit
      Orionvit 23 January 2018 12: 13
      0
      Quote: tchoni
      and she can intercept mines, mines?

      Nobody can. I heard that in the states (and maybe not only in the states), the laser system for the destruction of shells and mines was being developed, but the system was not brought to mind.
      1. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 23 January 2018 13: 09
        0
        On satellite TV they showed a program about such a laser system, it was called Zeus, unless of course my memory serves me. But it was intended for mine clearance, and not a word about the laser shooting of flying mines. Israel has an Iron Ray system for destroying such objects in flight. How much it is distributed and applied is unknown to me. Can our Israeli comrades talk in more detail?
    8. ProkletyiPirat
      ProkletyiPirat 23 January 2018 22: 01
      +1
      Quote: tchoni
      and she can intercept mines, mines? -)

      no can, the time to defeat is too short
    9. Valery Saitov
      Valery Saitov 24 January 2018 06: 27
      0
      Mines are knocked down (but not all) by a 30 mm cannon. Firing (cut-off) is fired at 12 or 24 shots. They were shown on TV.
  2. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 23 January 2018 10: 07
    +7
    Very competent decision. "Nail" in the ass of all the enemies of Russia!
    1. Olfred
      Olfred 23 January 2018 12: 26
      0
      cheers comrades? the missile is highly specialized and I doubt that the range of its goals except drones includes anything else, obviously there are enough explosives and fragments only for small-sized purposes, I’m generally silent about planes. And yes, a timely response to new threats. hi
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 January 2018 10: 08
    +6
    It turns out a complete package - 48 "nails". Not bad at all. This is how much you can “forge” such nails, in terms of greens, for ONE Merikatos shot from Zamvolt ?! bully
    1. novel66
      novel66 23 January 2018 10: 39
      0
      a shot from the "zamvolta" more destructive than the "aurora" lol
      1. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 23 January 2018 12: 29
        0
        Quote: novel xnumx
        a shot from the "zamvolta" more destructive than the "aurora" lol


        it remains for the "Russian hackers" to enter the coordinates of the "Winter Palace" repeat
    2. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 23 January 2018 10: 53
      +1
      rather on 12 TPK - 6 standard missiles and 6 TPK x 4 Nails = 24, total: 30 SAM
      As a rule, they work as a couple for the S-400 air defense division, we get 60 SAM
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 23 January 2018 12: 08
        0
        Quote: Romario_Argo

        1
        Romario_Argo Today, 10:53 ↑ New
        rather, 12 TPK - 6 standard missiles and 6 TPK x 4 Nails = 24, total: 30 SAM
        As a rule, they work as a couple for the S-400 air defense division, we get 60 SAM

        That is, 400-90 of the most seedy drones are enough for the S-100 division? Inexpensive ...
        1. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 23 January 2018 17: 36
          0
          S-400 air defense missile systems consists of two divisions, their positions are located at a distance of no more than 10 km, overlapping the radio horizon mutually at a distance of 40 km.
          those. ZRPK Shell will be 4 machines and the total BC is 120 SAM
          o is there enough 400-90 of the most seedy drones on the C-100 division? Inexpensive ...

          not. not enough (!)
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 23 January 2018 20: 54
            0
            Quote: Romario_Argo
            km, overlapping the radio horizon mutually at a distance of 40 km.
            those. ZRPK Shell will be already 4 cars and the total BC is 120 missiles

            Well, that means two "salvos" of 90-100 of the most seedy drones, and there are no two S-400 divisions worth one or two billion dollars .... Inexpensive.
            Alas, now air defense systems are significantly more expensive than the means of destroying these systems. And such systems as the S-400 need a significantly stronger cover with object-based air defense systems than is currently planned.
            1. Romario_Argo
              Romario_Argo 23 January 2018 21: 14
              0
              you are not thinking about that
              First you need to try to go through military air defense and then if you get only air defense - industrial areas
              Air defense of the air is: SAM Tor, Buk M2 / M3, S-300V4, Osa-AKM, SAM Tunguska
              Everything is very complex, we don’t even consider air cover yet
  4. Kent0001
    Kent0001 23 January 2018 10: 13
    0
    The main thing here is that it is inexpensive. And if you explode it inside the "swarm", so the damaging effect will increase even more.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 23 January 2018 10: 20
      +2
      Yes, there, and the original shell rocket, it seems, is not expensive.
      So I do not quite understand why this rocket has the best maneuverability? Less speed? Or is there a smaller acceleration section, and at the same time a smaller “dead zone”?
      1. novel66
        novel66 23 January 2018 10: 39
        +4
        it is light - small inertia
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 23 January 2018 14: 13
          0
          So the original rocket is not heavy. 28 kilograms weight of the second stage, of which 20 - warhead. Made it even easier? Well done.

          It is still not entirely clear why they should be put in a standard TPK. Why your own more roomy for them not to do. Will the new TPK not get ready for the Shell?
          1. novel66
            novel66 23 January 2018 14: 47
            +1
            So. and it’s more convenient - depending on the task, you need to plow and bang!
          2. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 23 January 2018 20: 57
            +1
            Quote: alexmach
            Why your own more roomy for them not to do. Will the new TPK not get ready for the Shell?

            Unification and interchangeability. Just necessary things for weapons systems.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 January 2018 10: 28
    +4
    The main thing is that it is effective and cheaper than today's full-time. And then the opposition was already drowning in snot, lamenting that we are getting involved in an arms race and we are facing another collapse.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 23 January 2018 10: 34
      +3
      Gene, hello! hi It is a logical and logical decision. Why shoot a cannon at a sparrow if there are such "Nails".
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 23 January 2018 10: 39
        +2
        Hello Pasha! hi
        "Nails"
        For some reason, it immediately came to mind - the last nail in the lid of the coffin (enemy).
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 23 January 2018 10: 46
          +2
          Yes, there are possible options: in the lid of the coffin or in the ass. lol
    2. Dead duck
      Dead duck 23 January 2018 12: 01
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The main thing is that it is effective and cheaper than today's full-time.

      hi
      And shells are not cheaper? ... request
      You can work with a couple of trunks, and not all.
      Accuracy will increase, projectile consumption will decrease.
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 23 January 2018 13: 13
        +1
        You can work with a couple of trunks, and not all.
        Accuracy will increase, projectile consumption will decrease.

        Yes, something "Shell" does not sparkle with fire from cannons. Somewhere on the site there was a video that he couldn’t shoot down flying guns, he had to shoot rockets.
      2. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 23 January 2018 21: 02
        0
        Quote: Deadush

        1
        Deadushka Today, 12:01 ↑
        Quote: rotmistr60
        The main thing is that it is effective and cheaper than today's full-time.

        hi
        And shells are not cheaper? ...

        The projectile must be with a non-contact fuse. This is not cheap, if you multiply by the expense of one goal. Plus, the 30mm caliber is too small for a fragmentation munition with a non-contact fuse and is ineffective.
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 January 2018 10: 33
    0
    "Shell" will receive a "budget" rocket to fight drones

    Well, I don’t really want to speak Russian. To tell cheap - not really, but “Budgetary” and sweet in the mouth.
    1. novel66
      novel66 23 January 2018 10: 40
      +3
      cheap - it gives poverty, but it smells like a cut from the budget
      1. Alexkorzun
        Alexkorzun 23 January 2018 11: 12
        +1
        Of course, I’m far from thinking of falling into insanity, like our Little Russian brothers (Ukrainians), who call the "condom" - "humic natsyutsurnik." This is too much.
        But why not call an inexpensive racket - "cheap" ?????
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 23 January 2018 12: 11
          0
          Quote: Alexkorzun
          But why not call an inexpensive racket - "cheap" ?????

          Well, if only because it is not cheap at all. You can’t buy cheap snow from our efficient managers even in winter.
  7. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 23 January 2018 10: 35
    +3
    Pleases. The real weapon of war is that it is cheap, reliable and efficient. An enemy’s super-air-waffle, worth $ 100 million, needs an effective missile worth up to $ 10 thousand. The development of our air defense systems is a priority.
  8. Shuttle
    Shuttle 23 January 2018 10: 38
    0
    This is an interim solution. Necessary, but sufficient. The possibilities of a swarm of UAVs are easily increased by the tactics of the behavior of the swarm. And this very behavior is practically worthless, because it is a sequence of control signals.
    For example, a swarm can be chosen for a target dispersed, and therefore covertly. Go straight over the goal, i.e. minimizing the time it takes to find oneself.
    In short, to combat this big swarm is not enough.
    1. Genry
      Genry 23 January 2018 12: 02
      0
      A swarm of small drones will not reach far. And there will not be many large UAVs and will not be able to shoot an economical missile for long.
  9. Alexander War
    Alexander War 23 January 2018 11: 19
    0
    Good news! Now, along the entire western border, place S-2 Armor!
    1. RL
      RL 23 January 2018 11: 38
      0
      And in the southwest, and in the south, and in the southeast, and in the east, and the northeast is not to offend. And then, you see, smuggling is already being thrown by drones!
  10. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 23 January 2018 11: 42
    +2
    It turns out, the "nail" caliber of the 35-40 millimeters? I wonder what kind of warhead is there.
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 23 January 2018 11: 47
      0
      I wonder what kind of warhead is there. No more than MANPADS Igla
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 23 January 2018 13: 23
        +2
        It's clear. Just interesting weight and splinters. I doubt that there is a core
        1. Alexander War
          Alexander War 23 January 2018 13: 33
          +1
          High-explosive fragmentation warhead 9N330
  11. Labor
    Labor 23 January 2018 11: 48
    0
    Wow the bays! Nail them in sneakers!
  12. Guru
    Guru 23 January 2018 12: 21
    0
    And if there will be MORE goals than budget missiles, then WHAT? If they had also created an automatic loading system like rockets. Then Yes, this is a breakthrough, because the operator will be able to choose which missiles to shoot down the target. And just zilch.
    1. Azim77
      Azim77 23 January 2018 12: 37
      0
      Then it’s easier to shoot down drones with shrapnel. Those. back to the small anti-aircraft gun ..
    2. Valery Saitov
      Valery Saitov 24 January 2018 06: 41
      0
      It takes time to create the Shell-2, then ... 3. Here they will provide automatic loaders to select missiles. And the threat of drones already exists, so for now they are choosing a quick and budget option.
  13. thinker
    thinker 23 January 2018 13: 18
    +1
    the novelty has already received the nickname "nail" from the military

    Everyone remembers how a nail is needed from childhood. yes
    Nail and horseshoe
    There was no nail -
    Horseshoe
    Gone.
    There was no horseshoe -
    Horse
    I was limping.
    The horse limped -
    Commander
    Killed.
    The cavalry is defeated -
    Army
    Running
    The enemy enters the city,
    Captive not sparing
    Because in the forge
    There was no nail.
    Samuel Marshak
  14. Old26
    Old26 23 January 2018 19: 13
    +1
    Quote: tchoni
    and she can intercept mines, mines? -)

    Hardly. You want too much from this complex

    Quote: Pacifist
    You just need to increase the channel for goals by a factor of two and it’ll be wonderful

    Is not a fact. Perhaps just an increase in ammunition and its cost reduction

    Quote: K0
    Quote: Genry
    For mines you need a special cannon shell.

    not necessarily special - just one formatting unit as calculated by the mines)))

    To do this, you need not a radar of an air defense system, but a radar sharpened to detect the trajectory of the same mines. At least we had such a radar - "ZOO". Combining everything in one complex at once is rather silly and technically sometimes impossible ....

    Quote: NEXUS
    can pour a mortar, but only who will give it?

    Elementary. As most likely, they “poured” it before the New Year. The airbase area is a city building with a huge number of local, dirt roads. There are several dozen of them. A jeep appears from behind the hills, in the back of which is a Cornflower. Firing time - 1-2 minutes. Under a hundred minutes with a good calculation will provide. And what do you have time to do in 1-2 minutes ????

    Quote: Kent0001
    The main thing here is that it is inexpensive. And if you explode it inside the "swarm", so the damaging effect will increase even more.

    I think that you should not understand the word "swarm" so literally. This is not a hundred drones, going "shoulder to shoulder" to the target. There may be a dozen running at the same time. And these ten can be called a "swarm"
    The “nail” for the “Shell” is definitely a lesser effect in terms of the radius of destruction and almost certainly in range. Although the density of the fragments can be much higher. This is unlikely to be a high-explosive shell, which, when blown up inside a "swarm", will blow everything in its path

    Quote: alexmach
    It is still not entirely clear why they should be put in a standard TPK. Why your own more roomy for them not to do. Will the new TPK not get ready for the Shell?

    Paving under each new rocket or modification of your container? No, of course, you can make a container for 4, 8, and 18 missiles. but where will he get up? Seats have their own dimensions
    1. Genry
      Genry 23 January 2018 20: 55
      0
      Quote: Old26
      To do this, you need not a radar of an air defense system, but a radar sharpened to detect the trajectory of the same mines. ... Combining everything in one complex at once is rather silly and technically sometimes impossible ....

      Mines are clearly visible with an optical radar (warm, against a cold sky). In addition to the ZARK “Shell” there is a light “Pine” (there are separate versions of the ZAK and SAM), which uses an optical station and, in fact, can be the base for protection against low-flying air targets (we are talking about mines).
      In continuation of the "stupid ... and impossible" ... radars with headlamps are already outdated and ROFAR will come in their place (now we skip the CAR period, a couple of such radars do not count). They combine the capabilities of radio and optical detection stations. The technology is simpler and cheaper, active antennas will simply be printed on an insulator substrate, like microcircuits. In Russia, they will begin to be used in a year (drones, tanks, planes, and the Su57 will also hook).

      Quote: Old26
      At least we had such a radar - "ZOO".

      For the detection of shells, mines (plus miscellaneous) there is still a portable radar "Aistenok".