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Ukraine in American: can the US save the country

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Ukraine will be saved only if the United States takes it under external control. This opinion was recently expressed by the Ukrainian journalist Dmitry Gordon.




In his opinion, the country cannot independently deal with the accumulated problems, Ukrainian politicians pursue personal interests, and the well-being of the people does not concern them at all. Oleg Matveychev, professor at the National Research University Higher School of Economics in an interview with the Federal Agency News spoke about the state of the Ukrainian economy.

- How do you assess such prospects - the chances of Ukraine becoming a colony of the United States?

- In fact, Ukraine and now, in fact, is a colony of the United States, it introduced almost external control. We can see this by a number of signs: when, say, Biden came and sat in the prime minister’s chair, and all the ministers listened to him, we saw it. We see that the United States often provides free aid to Ukraine, plus they put constant pressure on the International Monetary Fund to break their own rules and give Kiev loans. There is financing as its own structure, as its own satellite. And, finally, direct obedience to the Americans of a number of ministries and departments of Ukraine. All special services are taken under the control of the United States, and today there are twice as many Americans in Kiev than in Russia. They think that if America colonizes them, they will become a colony, they will have some rights from it. In fact, their rights on the contrary will disappear. The colony assumes that the status of an American citizen and the status of a Ukrainian will not be equalized, but, on the contrary, Ukrainians will be discriminated. They just can not enter, for example, in the United States, will not be able to occupy some American posts, and much more. To dream of a colony, well, I don’t know, at the beginning of the 21 century, when the entire colonial system 50-70 collapsed in the world years ago, this is wild. Another wildness. It remains the following, what to dream about caves, about hides, about slavery. For ourselves, we dream of being American slaves. Actually, many people want it, it has already reached such a pathology ...

“Do you have an idea of ​​how much the majority of the population of Ukraine today truly believes in the bright future of the country under the wing of a fair American democracy?”

“If earlier we saw in various sociological polls that in the so-called European dream, the European future of Ukraine believed the order of 50% of people, but they were very active, they went to the Maidans. Now there is a gradual sobering up, and even in the European dream, as they say, 25-30% of Ukrainians believe. If we talk about the American dream, there will be even fewer people.

- So it is not surprising that such thoughts are already swarming in the heads of Ukrainian journalists, they express them, that the authorities do not cope with their duties?

- It’s traditional for Ukraine to always kick its own power. For a very short period, five presidents changed, two Maidan happened. This is not the last история. But this is not something that some kind of dislocation, which now happened, rather the opposite, the exception to the rule was the peaceful period of the existence of Ukraine within the USSR. Now Ukraine is experiencing an absolutely normal situation of preparation for itself for the next overthrow of another idol.

- What is the future of this Ukraine in the American way, how likely is such a scenario, about which the Ukrainian journalist spoke?

- The future of Ukraine depends on anyone, but not on Ukraine itself, the Ukrainian people, because it has lost its sovereign right to decide for itself how it will be in history. Plus, in the minds of a certain part of the Ukrainian elite, and of the western too, this is a myth that was spread by Ukrainians that Russia wants to seize something in Ukraine, share and so on. The problem is exactly the opposite. Russia does not need Ukraine. If it were needed, we would have created at least Novorossia a long time ago, would have kept it, would have arranged its statehood, would have spent huge amounts of money from its budget. Now we have America and Trump tried to foist Ukraine and say: "Well, take her under your control, so be it, since you are dreaming about it." And they were extremely surprised when they heard from our representatives that we, in general, do not dream. And if we are ready to take some responsibility for Ukraine, then you have to pay us for it, because there was a normal country, you destroyed it. Naturally, Americans are not going to recover anything, they will continue to rob her. Therefore, the situation of the status quo, when they tried to sell us Ukraine and to bargain with us in Iran and Syria. We said: "Guys, we do not trade our interests at all." The situation is stuck in a completely incomprehensible situation. Attacking us somehow they understand that it is impossible. They are warned that any attack on the LC, the DPR, especially on the Crimea, will end the same way as it ended in Georgia recently with Saakashvili.

- By the way, there have recently been shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine again, what is it?

- Shelling is a provocation. This is an attempt to prove to the nationalists, who are very many in Kiev, that we are fiercely fighting the Russian threat. They do these attacks in order to have a picture on the camera, that some valiant knights are shooting somewhere for some enemy positions. And where it flies, and who die, of course, it is not shown on Ukrainian television.

- Well, this will happen indefinitely?

- It will happen here in this hung situation for a while. There are only two ways, two ways. The first option is that Ukraine will develop in itself antibodies to fascism and from the inside itself will cope with its own fascism, nationalism. It takes about 20 years. The second option-Ukraine will die, that is, it will split. Remember, in 90, too, the whole society raved about the West. Ditch their own economy, half destroyed the country, waged a civil war on its territory. It took 10 years to recover. But in Ukraine, as in any province, all processes are slow. In our 90, our years have happened just now, on 20 years later. I think, not before any 30-40, the full recovery of Ukraine will take place.
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  1. already a Muscovite
    already a Muscovite 23 January 2018 01: 26
    +6
    The future of Ukraine depends on anyone, but not on Ukraine itself
    and there is...
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 23 January 2018 03: 29
      +2
      Ukraine will be saved only if the United States takes it under external control. This opinion was recently voiced by Ukrainian journalist Dmitry Gordon.
      how many "media" Gordons ... take a closer look. -and all the gandons ...
      1. esaul
        esaul 23 January 2018 06: 25
        +2
        Quote: already a Muscovite
        The future of Ukraine depends on anyone, but not on Ukraine itself
        and there is...

        Someone had questions on the topic - who are the political "women with low social responsibility" winked?
        1. self-propelled
          self-propelled 23 January 2018 12: 25
          0
          Ukraine in American: can the US save the country
          in principle they can, but is it necessary ?!
      2. dSK
        dSK 23 January 2018 08: 13
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        Quote: Dead Day
        how many "media" gordons
        Do we have the same namesake or relative on TV?
      3. Chertt
        Chertt 23 January 2018 09: 06
        +1
        Quote: Dead Day
        how many "media" Gordons ... take a closer look. -and all the gandons ..

        And these invertebrates, dreaming of becoming Negro slaves, we called the "fraternal people." Congolese monkey named brother
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 23 January 2018 04: 57
      +4
      Why the Americans governing Ukraine, if they can’t decide anything with their government and haven’t been controlled by anyone for three days already? lol
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 23 January 2018 07: 41
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        Why the Americans governing Ukraine, if they can’t decide anything with their government and haven’t been controlled by anyone for three days already? lol

        Do not confuse the US government and personal, selfish interests. You are boiling in Ukraine when Biden wanted to attach his little son. How beautiful it all looked: we produce gas in Ukraine, cut off Russia, and Ukrainian gas comes to Europe through the finished gas transmission system.
        1. dSK
          dSK 23 January 2018 08: 17
          +1
          Hello Andrey!
          Quote: Cube123
          personal, selfish interests
          Unfortunately, there are many corrupt politicians, and they are more "thirty" do not give. States is not "charitable fund".
          1. Cube123
            Cube123 23 January 2018 10: 09
            +2
            Quote: dsk
            Hello Andrey!
            Quote: Cube123
            personal, selfish interests
            Unfortunately, there are many corrupt politicians, and they are more "thirty" do not give. States is not "charitable fund".

            Hello Sergey!
            States, this is primarily a tough competitive environment. Where everyone is forced to fight for their right to life. Moreover, the US government always has the opportunity to "shrug" and say: "We have nothing to do with this, it is a private initiative of some of our citizens."
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 January 2018 04: 45
    +2
    Ukraine will be saved only if the United States takes it under external control
    .
    That's for sure. If the paralytic pumps out blood, then he will jump off and run like a brand new one. repeat
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 January 2018 07: 46
    +3
    Ukraine will be saved only if the United States takes it under external control
    Much more external management? Another thing is that the Americans do not even want to save what they need in this form as it is. Got rid of the independent? It remains only to divide the territory inherited from the Soviet regime between the states claiming it.
  4. BAI
    BAI 23 January 2018 09: 45
    +1
    Ukraine will be saved only if the United States takes it under external control

    Not under management, but on the content.
  5. avt
    avt 23 January 2018 10: 05
    +2
    Ukraine will be saved only if the United States takes it under external control. This opinion was recently expressed by the Ukrainian journalist Dmitry Gordon.
    bully That is the question - Whose will you be? Whose serf ask: "On the agenda of non-slave non-slaves, but directly slaves removed completely and irrevocably? bully Well, high correct the hymn. Not ,, we’ll panic ", but," emancipated brother of Ukrainians " bully How did they have a krychalka there, about that sho in Ukraine, a hzayain, a Ukrainian on a mov? Urgently edit - change, "owner" to the serf! And with her along Bandera Avenue to Shukhevych, there is nothing to go around with such shouts-cries on Moscow Avenue.
  6. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 23 January 2018 12: 51
    +1
    if the US takes it under external control.
    And how does he see it? Change bosses? He himself answers - the bosses have already been changed. Only this does not work and cannot work. To change the situation, you need to change ALL.
    That is, leaders at all levels. On the Americans, yeah. In this case, you need to find hundreds of thousands of Americans who will effectively manage and will not, for example, also steal. In America, such an overabundance of the most skilled managers who sincerely want to steer a store in Kharkov? But this is far from all.
    What to do with subordinates? To reformat the Ukrainian workers, it is necessary to use means that are completely absent in peacetime laws. Or nothing comes out in an acceptable time frame. What to do with this? You can’t recruit policemen, it is known how this will end. Again, hundreds of thousands of American troops and police must be led.
    Moreover, Ukraine will not be able to contain all this invasion. Even with better governance in the world, what will the country earn? Powerfully break through to the European market? They are waiting there, crying with impatience. The United States will immediately have more fans when they break into the European market the Ukrainian merchant, throwing the Europeans themselves out of it. Or are we here ready to place Ukrainian goods at our place, and even in the quantities needed for the Ukrainian revival ... at our expense?
    Well, Ukrainians got involved, along with their "country". On my own behalf I will say that I do not consider them brothers, I am not seriously interested in their fate, I am not ready to help in anything. DNR and LC are another matter. The rest ... let anyone take it. Do the States want a collar around their neck? Good way! Ukrainians have declared unity more than once. Last time, it’s kind of with Sumerians. Well, let the Sumerians and ...
  7. gladcu2
    gladcu2 23 January 2018 19: 35
    0
    The text does not correctly use the concept of "American Dream."

    In the original "American Dream", it is an opportunity to start from scratch and achieve economic independence, which is possible only in the United States, by virtue of the economic system.

    The free use of the term distorts the motivation on which the ideology of capitalism is based.

    The American dream is an illusion.
  8. 82т11
    82т11 23 January 2018 19: 58
    0
    America already rules Ukraine. Why should they put a collar on their neck doing this officially?
    Indeed, now the United States can jump off at any moment and say that it has nothing to do with Ukraine.
  9. NF68
    NF68 23 January 2018 20: 47
    0
    The independence of the modern Ukraine lies in the fact that almost nothing depends on it on its own territory, and the United States is not going to save it, because for the United States Ukraine is a kind of toilet paper that the United States uses exclusively to solve its geopolitical problems.
  10. Dobriy_chelvek
    Dobriy_chelvek 23 January 2018 21: 33
    0
    Hmm, it's hard to comment on something. I myself am from the Crimea, I lived in Ukraine for 18 years (I write in how I’m used to, so don’t hesitate, ok), and I lived normally and don’t hurt anyone that was happening in the world, his mother was his island of stability in the center of Europe, but , as always, someone’s business interest was too strong that he didn’t care about any expenses. About the transition of Crimea, the people, Crimeans are political messes, one will say that everything was normal and the other with foam at the mouth to prove how. He lived for 23 years during the occupation, and he has 2 huts and padjeriks since the occupation. Draw conclusions.
  11. Nemesis
    Nemesis 24 January 2018 12: 53
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    In general, Ukraine could have avoided many problems if it had followed the path of Czechoslovakia and did not try to bend through the knee territories historically not part of Ukraine, with an indigenous, non-Ukrainian population.
    1. Dobriy_chelvek
      Dobriy_chelvek 25 January 2018 03: 14
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      I will say this, Donbass no one really bent in Ukraine, on the contrary, after Yanyk alone Makeevsky and Donetsk were heads of regional state administrations and even in Crimea they hated them quietly, Prime Minister Mogilev was from there. It is no secret that the DNR’s face was registered in the Ministry of Justice of Ukraine back in 2006, so all this hype was started long before the Maidan, just the fathers of Donbass, to put it mildly, got the hang of this whole situation, but they are sitting in their places, look at Tsarev, so that they are all ready to sell themselves and return to Ukraine, in the usual conditions, so to speak, and the fact that in their own country the hatred of the country's inhabitants towards their citizens from two of their own regions is nurtured and driven into a subcortex.
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 25 January 2018 09: 52
        0
        What you write here is a lie, from beginning to end. The genocide of the indigenous population in the occupied territories of Russia Ukraine has organized under the Communist Party. The first violent wave of Ukrainization of Donbass began in 1922.
        1. your1970
          your1970 25 January 2018 10: 12
          0
          Quote: Nemesis
          What you write here is a lie, from beginning to end. The genocide of the indigenous population in the occupied territories of Russia Ukraine has organized under the Communist Party. The first violent wave of Ukrainization of Donbass began in 1922.
          -you would have decided-you and Putin is bad and the CPSU? You have a split personality ...

          Z.Y. shout out to everyone "lies" - your favorite words ...
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 25 January 2018 10: 13
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            But I don’t like either the CPSU or Putin ... I’ve been determined for a long time. I have never been a member of the CPSU, nor the PDR, nor the EP ...
  12. kdakda
    kdakda 25 January 2018 13: 38
    0
    Land and forest will go west. Only then will Ukraine cease to be needed.