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Putin changed the form of the military’s response to the commander’s gratitude

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An official presidential decree on amending the statutes of the Armed Forces has been published on the official online portal of legal information. In particular, the form of appeal to the commander is changing. The servicemen must answer in order of service to the congratulations and thanks of the authorities with the phrase: “I serve Russia”.


Putin changed the form of the military’s response to the commander’s gratitude


As follows from the decree of the head of the Russian state
if the commander (chief) congratulates the servicemen of a military unit (subunit) who are in the ranks, they respond with a prolonged three-time “Hooray”, and if the commander (chief) thanks them, the servicemen answer: “We serve Russia”


Since 2007, according to the Charter of the internal service of the Armed Forces, the military have uttered the phrase “I serve (as an option“ serve ”) the Russian Federation.” From 1993 to 2007, it was supposed to say “I serve the Fatherland”.

New rules begin to operate from the date of the signing of the decree - January 22.
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 January 2018 18: 50
    46
    In principle, not bad, but the main thing is that it all comes from the heart, from the heart!
    Serving Russia! soldier
    1. Looking Petrovich
      Looking Petrovich 22 January 2018 18: 53
      45
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Serving Russia! soldier

      On the sofa with a glass.
      1. Logall
        Logall 22 January 2018 19: 02
        78
        Yes, even with a glass and a stool ...! If only for the health of our Great Fatherland!
        1. cniza
          cniza 22 January 2018 20: 43
          13
          Alexander, correctly the main thing is not in formalization, but in the content and impulse of the soul.
          1. Logall
            Logall 22 January 2018 20: 50
            +7
            Quote: cniza
            the main thing is not formalization

            Yes, but I look that situational casual attribution is not at all alien to many!
            1. cniza
              cniza 22 January 2018 20: 57
              +6
              So the military has always been so, it disciplines.
        2. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 23 January 2018 02: 23
          +5
          Quote: Logall
          Yes, even with a glass and a stool ...! If only for the health of our Great Fatherland!

          After such an optimistic statement, I am calm for the Fatherland ... but for your edravie, no! recourse
        3. planetauuu.com
          planetauuu.com 23 January 2018 04: 54
          +6
          Unfortunately, the Greatness of the Fatherland is inversely proportional to the amount drunk. On the contrary, sober work contributes to the emergence, preservation and strengthening of the Greatness of the Power. By the way, do you understand the difference between the Fatherland and the Power? In addition, the Great Stainless must have such an economic model that allows a simple hard worker, teacher, doctor, engineer, etc. to feel Great. In Russia this is not observed. In Russia, the Great, thanks to the current government, are the oligarchs. So you will excuse me, but behind your beautiful slogan about our Great Fatherland, in my perhaps mistaken view, is emptiness. Good luck in collecting pluses.
          1. Captain45
            Captain45 23 January 2018 09: 21
            10
            Quote: planetauuu.com
            By the way, do you understand the difference between the Fatherland and the Power?

            Damn, how did your liberal bends get- the difference between the Fatherland and the Power, the Motherland and the state, cosmopolitan rootless ....
          2. Berber
            Berber 23 January 2018 10: 22
            +5
            You are a troll. And the photo is not yours. Collect + for beautiful eyes.
          3. Bearmedved
            Bearmedved 24 January 2018 02: 19
            0
            Zhen shen vi takaya blagirodnaya
      2. novel66
        novel66 22 January 2018 19: 03
        20
        and here it is not necessary to envy!
      3. Nikolai Passerby
        Nikolai Passerby 22 January 2018 19: 20
        +7
        Quote: Looking Petrovich
        On the sofa with a glass.

        Apparently, there is no longer a glass, but something more ...
      4. romanru4
        romanru4 23 January 2018 16: 51
        +2
        Do not
        Forget the soldier
        Best reward
        For him -
        When you send letters.
        In response, he
        Slanting rains
        Sends simple words -
        I serve Russia.
      5. Kirill Popov
        Kirill Popov 24 January 2018 20: 27
        0
        On the couch, but without a glass!
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 22 January 2018 18: 57
      90
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Serving Russia!

      I serve the Soviet Union even better. yes
      1. Logall
        Logall 22 January 2018 19: 03
        10
        It would be better, but ...
        Great, friend!
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 22 January 2018 19: 05
          10
          Quote: Logall
          It would be better, but ...

          But .... that’s what interferes request Hello Be Friendly drinks hi
        2. Genry
          Genry 22 January 2018 21: 47
          +8
          Quote: Logall
          It would be better, but ...

          But ... but it can still happen. After all, legally the USSR is still alive and the ruble of the USSR (SUR 810), too ...
          1. your1970
            your1970 23 January 2018 11: 05
            0
            Quote: Genry
            Quote: Logall
            It would be better, but ...

            N. After all, legally the USSR is still alive and the ruble of the USSR (SUR 810), too ...
            The "810" code left the Russian Federation for a long time
            1. Genry
              Genry 23 January 2018 15: 08
              0
              Quote: your1970
              The "810" code left the Russian Federation for a long time

              The ruble of the Russian Federation has a code 643 !!!
      2. KGB WATCH YOU
        KGB WATCH YOU 22 January 2018 19: 06
        +7
        By the way, “I serve the Soviet Union” and “I serve the Russian Federation” are somehow more familiar, 3 words. But "Serving the Fatherland" and "Serving Russia" slightly cuts the ear.
        1. Mikhail m
          Mikhail m 22 January 2018 19: 59
          +4
          Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
          "Serving the Fatherland" and "Serving Russia" slightly cuts the ear.

          This must be said to the candidate of some sciences who on this subject defended his dissertation and introduced it into the army with the help of a shaggy paw. It is necessary to justify it before signing it.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 22 January 2018 22: 05
            +8
            Our country was Russia and Russia will be. hi
            The pause when called otherwise ended. Hooray!
      3. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 22 January 2018 20: 24
        13
        Quote: vlad66
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Serving Russia!

        I serve the Soviet Union even better. yes

        So yes, but there were such words in the USSR anthem ...
        "An indestructible union, free republics, Great Russia has forever rallied ..!"
        Now a different format, but the essence is the same .. So. that "I SERVE RUSSIA!" Very accurate in essence .. soldier
        PS I don’t know about the republics of “free and brothers”, but Great Russia remained unambiguously!
      4. not main
        not main 22 January 2018 23: 10
        +1
        Quote: vlad66
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Serving Russia!

        I serve the Soviet Union even better. yes

        That's just a pity that you have to add: it was!
      5. midivan
        midivan 22 January 2018 23: 50
        +2
        Quote: vlad66
        I serve the Soviet Union even better.

        Well, yes, yes, the Union showed to whom and why we are needed and still shows it, but it broke up with promises that it would be better to live in France and Europe, as one representative from the former allies told me - we thought that Russia was fast rises and pulls us along, and you were malacholny. What do you think? Option one - Russia has become many times stronger in economy than the USA and Japan, for example, what will be the attitude of the allies and their action towards us? The second option - is Russia in economic trouble and on the brink of war with the same US and Japan allies will reach us? Conclusion - do we need allies? For some reason, it seems to me that with the first option and with the prohibition of labor migration, with the abandonment of the policy of "forgiveness of debts" we will assemble the Union for several years. Do we need it? An allegory begs me - an old oil tycoon and a young beautiful wife. But what connects them and where does the young sweetheart leave when the old one is in lengthy negotiations?
      6. Alexander S.
        Alexander S. 23 January 2018 02: 25
        0
        on our oath, one said so) everyone laughed .. but he was dying for a week)
      7. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 23 January 2018 12: 03
        +2
        Honestly, it would have been better if big Soviet Russia had been originally. RSFSR, not the USSR. And even after the creation of the USSR, out of place, Belarus was tripled at the expense of the RSFSR, it was given to Turkestan, and then to Karakalpakstan, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.
      8. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 24 January 2018 11: 14
        +1
        Quote: vlad66
        I serve the Soviet Union even better.

        Serving the Labor People! it would be great. soldier
    3. Maz
      Maz 22 January 2018 19: 21
      +6
      We have the Russian Federation. And then "I serve the Russian Federation!". But the first paragraph says that the Civil Code of the RF Armed Forces is always right. And if you’re wrong, then you need to go to Israel. laughing or more attentively look at the first point, serving ... wink
      1. Rusland
        Rusland 22 January 2018 19: 26
        10
        Briefly, succinctly and clearly. soldier
      2. DMB_95
        DMB_95 22 January 2018 19: 48
        +3
        Quote: Maz
        We have the Russian Federation. And then "I serve the Russian Federation!"

        Yes, it was like in the Constitution - "Russian Federation (Russia)". Did you change her?
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 23 January 2018 12: 07
          +1
          RFR, that is, the Russian Federation (Russia) was until 1993. Now the Russian Federation. But the Constitution says that the names of the Russian Federation and Russia are equivalent.
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 22 January 2018 20: 04
        +9
        Quote: Maz
        We have the Russian Federation. And then "I serve the Russian Federation!

        The name of our country is indicated in the Constitution of the Russian Federation: the Russian Federation and Russia are equivalent
      4. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 22 January 2018 21: 44
        +1
        Quote: Maz
        We have the Russian Federation. And then "I serve the Russian Federation!". But the first paragraph says that the Civil Code of the RF Armed Forces is always right. And if you’re wrong, then you need to go to Israel. laughing or more attentively look at the first point, serving ... wink

        Why then do you have no flag? Maybe you are not writing from Russia? Disguise yourself?
      5. Piramidon
        Piramidon 22 January 2018 22: 14
        +1
        Quote: Maz
        We have the Russian Federation.

        Vascheto, "the names of the Russian Federation and Russia are equivalent."
        Source: Constitution of the Russian Federation !!!
      6. midivan
        midivan 22 January 2018 23: 55
        +2
        Quote: Maz
        We have the Russian Federation.

        Federation (lat. Foederātiō - union, union) - a form of government in which parts of the state are public entities ...
        The parts are removed into a single whole.
      7. AVGUST
        AVGUST 23 January 2018 07: 08
        +2
        In fact, according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the concepts of the Russian Federation and Russia are equally important!
      8. Captain45
        Captain45 23 January 2018 09: 24
        +2
        Quote: Maz
        We have the Russian Federation. And then "I serve the Russian Federation!".

        Vachet: "The names of the Russian Federation and Russia are equivalent" - Art. 1. n.2 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
      9. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 23 January 2018 12: 06
        0
        Actually, there is a provision in the Constitution of the Russian Federation that the concepts of the Russian Federation and Russia are equivalent. We have the word Russian in the names of some departments, Russia in the names of others.
    4. Rafaell
      Rafaell 22 January 2018 20: 26
      +6
      I propose abolishing the oath, all the same, no one was imprisoned or punished for betraying the oath, for example, Serdyukov. And take it once in a lifetime. I took the oath of allegiance to the motherland 4 times. Many took 3 times. Oath Chain SA-MIA-Tax Police-Drug Control
      1. TsUS-Air Force
        TsUS-Air Force 22 January 2018 20: 31
        +1
        and now there’s still a bunch of cadet classes of corps schools and in each of their oaths
        1. Rafaell
          Rafaell 22 January 2018 20: 38
          0
          Civil servants seem to take the oath, but how to punish them for treason, we will remain without the government
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 22 January 2018 20: 56
        +1
        The word "oath" already speaks for itself that it is given only once in a lifetime.
        1. Svist
          Svist 23 January 2018 01: 11
          +3
          Quote: tihonmarine
          The word "oath" already speaks for itself that it is given only once in a lifetime.

          Under the king, the oath was taken to each new sovereign.
      3. St Petrov
        St Petrov 22 January 2018 21: 46
        +7
        I propose abolishing the oath, all the same, no one was imprisoned or punished for betraying the oath, for example, Serdyukov.


        I remember the army BEFORE Serdyukov. (adequate will understand that I'm talking about Russia, not the UNION)

        was a complete tear. And in order to survive, the officers worked two more jobs besides the army. Participated in skirmishes, working at night as "security guards", someone was more fortunate. There was the first Chechen, in the form it was not customary to go “into society”. Building relations with an officer - having been hired in an officer dorm for years, without a sane salary and prospects - was truly for happiness (although it was only just beginning). Then there was the second Chechen. Things have gone.

        I remember the line of officers at the tents (well, the salary was issued once every 3-4 months, everyone came off as best they could). Thumped all fiercely. Now they drink rather hard. And then they all wanted to howl. And they fled from the army and screamed the Gaza Strip in all dynamics - they would have survived the 92nd year.

        Serdyukov got a discord and a seam. And the department, which he headed during the perestroika period, was allocated a lot of money. And the main thing is that they reached everyone, from the ordinary (for several years there were several promotions) - to the senior officers. Houses began to be built and the line moved off the ground.

        Then Shoigu came, returned the Suvorovites to the parade ground, and as the apartments were being built, they were being built. Orders of the military industrial complex, which were signed under S., are being executed. The circuit works.

        And not everything is as simple as the officer’s daughter said.

        Now they are paying money to go serve an urgent term. The officers drive German cars and have no problems with housing. And even a sergeant, foreman can get 40 tr

        And if you physically surrender perfectly, then catch the increase in contentment
        1. Svist
          Svist 23 January 2018 01: 15
          +1
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          Serdyukov got a discord and a seam. And the department, which he headed during the perestroika period, was allocated a lot of money. And the main thing is that they reached everyone, from the ordinary (for several years there were several promotions) - to the senior officers. Houses began to be built and the line moved off the ground.

          Yes ... If it hadn’t been stealing, much more could have "raised" ... laughing
        2. BecmepH
          BecmepH 23 January 2018 05: 59
          +2
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          I remember the army BEFORE Serdyukov.

          Again this is your nonsense ... All praise the amateur and the thief ... Why would it? Something caught in the muddy water of the Serdyukov River?
          1. Alex1117
            Alex1117 23 January 2018 07: 32
            +1
            An amateur - maybe. But about the thief - not a fact. Well, if there were facts, then his former father-in-law Zubkov (the head of Rosfinmonitoring at that time) would quickly drove off to Magadan. And the amateur ... what, isn't Shoigu an amateur in military affairs?
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 23 January 2018 07: 46
              +2
              Quote: Alex1117
              But about a thief - not a fact

              Is not a fact? Yes, do not look for a long time. Just ask how much he maritanil with Vasilyeva. Or was everything done behind his back?))) Do not tell ...
              If there were facts, then his former father-in-law Zubkov (the head of Rosfinmonitoring at that time) would quickly drove off to Magadan
              Ha ha ha ... Are you naive or pretending to be? Hand washes a hand.
              And the amateur ... what, isn't Shoigu an amateur in military affairs?
              Here we can agree with this. But the difference between Serdyukov and Shoigu is that one sold furniture, and the second created the Ministry of Emergencies from scratch. So their experience is qualitatively different
              1. Alex1117
                Alex1117 24 January 2018 10: 49
                +1
                You are either too impressionable or too gullible in terms of trust in the zombie. Until now, there has not been a single first person in the world, and ministers are also the first persons who would not have approved the posts of those who were later accused of embezzlement, imprisoned, or even executed. We have already planted many governors. All of them were appointed by the President. In your opinion, it turns out that Vladimir Putin stole with them?
                Hand washes a hand? Do you have a specific complaint against Zubkov? In your opinion is he a thief?
                Shoigu punched the creation of the Ministry of Emergencies, and before that the Committee. But it was not he who created the rescue corps, but other people, in particular Alexander Shcherbakov. And the apprentice Shoigu arose at a subsequent stage and, seizing the initiative, headed the rescue corps created before him, promising, through his contacts, to transform him into a state committee and provide him with budget funding.
                Serdyukov headed the Moscow region since the beginning of 2007. Shoigu - since November 2012. In April 2014, the whole world saw in Crimea a new army of Russia - polite people. Do you really believe that the merit in creating this new army of ours belongs exclusively to Shoigu, who managed to create it in less than a year and a half of his leadership of the Moscow Region?
                1. BecmepH
                  BecmepH 24 January 2018 11: 35
                  0
                  Quote: Alex1117
                  Hand washes a hand? Do you have a specific complaint against Zubkov? In your opinion is he a thief?

                  So it's not about Zubkov. I mean, having become Zubkov’s son-in-law, Serdyukov’s career just flew up. And do not steal yourself. My daughter is well off.
                  And the fact that Serdyukov profited at the expense of Moscow Do you not deny? I understand that.
                  On December 27, 1990, No. 606 formed the Russian Rescue Corps on the rights of the State Committee of the RSFSR.

                  The date of adoption of this decision is considered the time of foundation of the Ministry of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense, Emergencies and Disaster Management.
                  After the approval of the Regulations and staffing of the Corps, its formation began. On April 17, 1991, by the Decree of the Council of Ministers of the RSFSR No. 207, S.K. Shoigu was appointed Chairman of the Russian Rescue Corps.

                  In April 2014, the whole world saw in Crimea a new army of Russia - polite people.

                  And what was so new in the army then? From the fact that Putin called the fighters "polite people",
                  the world saw in Crimea a new army of Russia
                  ?) Are you funny?
                  1. Alex1117
                    Alex1117 24 January 2018 21: 57
                    +1
                    1. Type in any search "Scherbakov rescue corps" and maybe then you will not be so naive.
                    2. The whole world has recognized that Russia has a new army, you don’t know about Olya?
                    3. Yes, his career went up when he married Zubkov’s daughter. But being already the Minister of Defense, he divorced. What greatly offended the father-in-law. So that he couldn’t fall under the expression "hand washes" at the time of removal of Serdyukov.
                    4. I do not want to whitewash Serdyukov. I just want to note that he is not very different from Shoigu. Well, except that Kuzhegetovich is better at promoting.
          2. St Petrov
            St Petrov 23 January 2018 10: 56
            +2
            Again this is your nonsense


            show in the text. maybe I lied here? Maybe you served before Serdyukov and lived perfectly?

            About the contentment to Serdyukov do not tell about yours?

            Can you talk about a professional in his place - Grachev? That military was so military, not like Serdyukov

            PS "traded furniture" - as the head of the Russian Federal Tax Service and haggled when Yukos was extinguished with the guarantor, and so - that so far, shareholders have been swallowing dust.

            So I traded your stories about furniture - leave it for those who were not strong in mind or for those who had not seen the army before Serdyukov.

            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 23 January 2018 13: 00
              0
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              So I traded your stories about furniture - leave it for those who are not strong mind or for those who did not see the army before Serdyukov

              He served before Serdyukov, and during Serdyukov ...
              When Serdyukov canteen gave civilian schools and cooks closed up ?? And who in the field would cook, if that ?. I will give you a sea of ​​examples of stupid Serdyukov ideas, if that. And the people will help
      4. midivan
        midivan 22 January 2018 23: 56
        +2
        Quote: Rafaell
        Ministry of Internal Affairs-Tax Police-Drug Control

        Quote: Rafaell
        I propose to cancel the oath

        yes for all 100.
    5. Tusv
      Tusv 22 January 2018 21: 46
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      In principle, not bad, but the main thing is that it all comes from the heart, from the heart!
      Serving Russia!

      Well, triple Ur was not canceled and the glory of the Almighty and the Supreme (God and Caesar are different personalities. So just in case). I serve the Soviet Union, as it is nicer and WestLo angers nepodetski. However, the Constitution. The fatherland is forever, and Russia is eternal. URA, URA URA
    6. 1vlad19
      1vlad19 22 January 2018 23: 37
      0
      I remember how the general of our pensioner “corrected” the need to answer the Service of the Russian Federation. Everything is back to square one.
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 23 January 2018 05: 09
        0
        Yes ... "Russia" - it is so different, different .... And once they said: "I serve the working people" .... You feel the difference ... wink
  2. KGB WATCH YOU
    KGB WATCH YOU 22 January 2018 18: 52
    11
    Again, an imitation of violent activity before the election. To whom did "Serve the Russian Federation" interfere? Russia and the Russian Federation are one and the same.
    1. yehat
      yehat 22 January 2018 18: 59
      13
      no, not the same
      The Russian Federation is a FEDERATION. And there are those who are more, and you serve them.
      for example, the population of Chechnya will grow to 40 million, or another 15 million Gaster will come from Azerbaijan, and it turns out that a guy from Siberia or from Ryazan is already serving them. The national question is a serious thing, and liberal flirting will come out sideways.
      1. KGB WATCH YOU
        KGB WATCH YOU 22 January 2018 19: 03
        +7
        Are you okay? Why are you telling me about Gaster and the national question, when is the topic of the article: “Amending the Charter of the RF Armed Forces”?

        Explore the Russian Constitution at your leisure.
        1. Pax tecum
          Pax tecum 22 January 2018 19: 27
          0
          So, in the Constitution, and without this, there are enough contradictions. Power and does not hide by what "patterns" we got this chimera. On the site and an article about it was, with an analysis of all the contradictions.
          The Federation ... Russia ... And, because there is no clear legislative territorial-national definition of the territory for the Russian nationality.
          1. KGB WATCH YOU
            KGB WATCH YOU 22 January 2018 19: 46
            +6
            For the Russian nationality, no territory needs to be fixed, at least I definitely do not need it. I have a Russia. All together with the national republics. They study and understand the Russian language throughout this territory, submit to Moscow, and there are no obstacles to movement.
            It remains to put in order the interethnic relations in several republics, and everything will be fine.
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 23 January 2018 12: 36
        +1
        And why the population of Chechnya will grow 30 times. Can you imagine that? Or how will 10 million migrant workers come from 15 million Azerbaijan?
      3. Navigator Basov
        Navigator Basov 23 January 2018 13: 31
        0
        The Russian Federation is a federation, and Russia is a federation, because the Russian Federation is Russia. Again, the linguistic sectarians crawl out. Like it or not, nothing changes from the form of the name, if you are concerned about the national question, you will serve them (with your conviction) with the Russian Federation in the charter, as well as with Russia. Only your linguophrism will come out sideways to you, according to which you shape your worldview.
    2. Pax tecum
      Pax tecum 22 January 2018 19: 02
      +7
      And, "Serving the Fatherland" who hurt?
      Some, not entirely clear, "evolution".
      1. KGB WATCH YOU
        KGB WATCH YOU 22 January 2018 19: 04
        +4
        So no one bothered. But someone "smart" decided to "innovate" to introduce.
      2. AUL
        AUL 22 January 2018 19: 07
        +8
        Does Putin have nothing more to do before the election?
        1. Yarik
          Yarik 22 January 2018 19: 34
          +4
          AUL Today, 19:07 ↑ New
          Does Putin have nothing more to do before the election?

          What's the difference? To do something, or nothing at all. I won. Already. In advance. Does anyone doubt it?
      3. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 22 January 2018 19: 16
        +5
        And, I would like Russia and the Russian Federation to be different terms and concepts. So more logical, or something. In Russia - Russians, in the Russian Federation - all subjects, for the Federation.
        Why, in almost all, national republics, a territorial-national historical reference is defined, but the Russian nationality does not?
        Mess! After all, even in the USSR there was the RSFSR! The territory of the Russian population was meant, not to mention the fact that nationality is the norm in the passport.
        Well, these are thoughts aloud ... After all, no one has canceled the war against the Russians, especially at the political level.
        1. KGB WATCH YOU
          KGB WATCH YOU 22 January 2018 19: 51
          +4
          Mess! After all, even in the USSR there was the RSFSR! The territory of the Russian population was meant, not to mention the fact that nationality is the norm in the passport.

          Come on smile Are you talking about a bunch of ASSR and AO in the RSFSR? Precisely "the territory of the Russian population" was laughing ?
          Stop dividing the country into principalities. Only enlargement of subjects.
          1. Pax tecum
            Pax tecum 22 January 2018 20: 15
            +2
            So no one is against, dear! In addition to the national elites of the national pseudo-states within the Russian Federation (especially involved in the collapse of the Union).
            Of course, it is necessary to consolidate, and even better, introduce administrative borders instead of national ones! Right?
            Administrative divisions then and now are different things ...
            And in the Constitution of the USSR / RSFSR, somewhat differently, everything was fixed and spelled out.
            Russians called Russians, were not afraid ...
            And, yes ... Russians are spelled out in the Constitution of the RSFSR!

            The Constitution (Basic Law) of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic of April 12 1978
            The Great October Socialist Revolution, carried out by the workers and peasants of Russia under the leadership of the Communist Party, headed by V.I. Lenin, overthrew the power of the capitalists and landlords, established the dictatorship of the proletariat and created the Soviet state - the main instrument for protecting revolutionary conquests, building socialism and communism.
            Soviet power guaranteed all peoples of Russia equal rights and free self-determination, and provided workers with truly democratic rights and freedoms. The formation of the RSFSR provided Russian people, all nations and nationalities of the Russian Federation are favorable conditions for comprehensive economic, social and cultural development, taking into account their national characteristics in the fraternal family of Soviet peoples.
            1. Karabin
              Karabin 22 January 2018 21: 11
              0
              Quote: Pax tecum
              So no one is against, dear! In addition to national elites

              That and “FOR” especially no one.
            2. Karabin
              Karabin 22 January 2018 21: 11
              0
              Quote: Pax tecum
              So no one is against, dear! In addition to national elites

              That and “FOR” especially no one.
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 22 January 2018 20: 06
          +2
          Quote: Pax tecum
          Why, in almost all, national republics, a territorial-national historical reference is defined, but the Russian nationality does not?
          Mess! After all, even in the USSR there was the RSFSR!

          Well, the RSFSR is not the Russian Republic or the Russian Federation, but the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.
        3. Speedy
          Speedy 22 January 2018 20: 23
          0
          But this is just not necessary. Then the national republics fled from the USSR, as I don’t want our country to have the same story ... Let them be the national republics of Russia.
        4. Svist
          Svist 23 January 2018 01: 22
          0
          Stalin's Order No. 227, "Not a Step Back!" , also no one has canceled. Legally, he is acting. yes
        5. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 23 January 2018 12: 48
          0
          The entire territory of the Russian Federation is the territory of the entire population of the country. The word federation in the name only means that Russia is a federal entity. like Germany, and Brazil, and India, and the United States. The bulk of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation is by no means republics, but territories and regions. Almost 85% of the country's population lives in territories, regions, cities of federal significance and approximately 90% of GDP is produced. And in most republics of the Russian Federation, Russians numerically either predominate or are the largest or second largest group of the population. And the majority of Tatars, Mordovians, and representatives of many other peoples live outside the borders of "their" national subjects, and often have never been there in their life. And many peoples in general do not have any national entities with silt or small numbers, or dispersion.
          Within the USSR, within the RSFSR, the same current republics existed as part of the Russian Federation, they were only called the Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, and some were autonomous regions.
          It does not occur to anyone in China to create the Han Autonomous Region, in Spain the Castile Autonomous Region (although some still offer it), in the UK separate authorities for England, and in India no one is going to create a single Hindi-speaking state.
        6. Navigator Basov
          Navigator Basov 23 January 2018 13: 55
          0
          Quote: Pax tecum
          Mess! After all, even in the USSR there was the RSFSR! The territory of the Russian population was meant

          Dadadad, that is why the RSFSR (this is also a federation - the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic - a first-order federation as part of the USSR - a second-order federation) of the late Union included 16 autonomous Soviet socialist republics (the Bashkir Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, the Tatar Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, the Yakut Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and others), 5 autonomous regions (horror, Jewish Autonomous Okrug as part of the RSFSR for Russians!) And 10 autonomous (national) okrugs (Chukotka Autonomous Okrug, Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug and others), and all of them are formed on a national basis.
      4. Glory1974
        Glory1974 22 January 2018 19: 37
        +4
        And, "Serving the Fatherland" who hurt?

        The service of the Russian Federation was introduced after it was allowed in the army to serve foreigners at bases in Armenia, Tajikistan, etc. If a foreigner says "Serving the Fatherland", then it is not clear which one. Or maybe your own? They clarified what exactly the Russian Federation. But reduced to Russia, it is not clear from what logic. Although it should be, otherwise it’s all cat fun from nothing to do.
        1. Olezhek
          Olezhek 22 January 2018 20: 30
          +1
          But reduced to Russia, it is not clear from what logic.

          ??
          Russia is one thing
          federation is something else
          Replacement with the most sense.
          Elections are not the topic
          1. Glory1974
            Glory1974 22 January 2018 20: 50
            +1
            Russia is one thing
            federation is something else
            Replacement with the most sense.

            But the constitution says that the names Russia and the Russian Federation are equivalent. Where is the big point here?
          2. Navigator Basov
            Navigator Basov 23 January 2018 14: 00
            0
            SPGS, my friend, aggravated?
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 23 January 2018 12: 50
          0
          Why cut it? According to our constitution, the Russian Federation has equivalent concepts. Similarly, the Federal Republic of Germany and Germany, the Federal Republic of Brazil and Brazil, Mexico and the United Mexican States are equivalent in terms of constitutions of these countries.
      5. Evgenijus
        Evgenijus 22 January 2018 22: 12
        +2
        Pax tecum:
        And, "Serving the Fatherland" who hurt?

        I personally did not bother. By the way, before the 1917 revolution, the host of Russia went on the attack on the enemy with the slogan: "For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland!". The name of the country can always be changed and done it repeatedly, but the Fatherland always remains the Fatherland.
      6. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 22 January 2018 23: 36
        +1
        Quote: Pax tecum
        And, "Serving the Fatherland" who hurt?

        It’s like this so that every spy can climb into our ranks and you won’t find fault (he doesn’t say what kind of fatherland he serves). smile And here I’m clearly “Serving Russia !!”, you won’t get away with it, and just try to hurt her - just a wall and 9 grams. smile And then, as in the famous film: “For victory!”, “Yes! For our victory"
    3. Alex1117
      Alex1117 23 January 2018 00: 23
      +3
      With the answer (mass) in the ranks, it’s rather difficult to say “I serve the Russian Federation” on one air supply in the lungs. But pronouncing "Serving Russia" is much easier, just one sigh is enough.
      They have already said that Tajiks and Armenians are serving in our army. Did you hear them pronounce the word "Federation"? Something not very decent is obtained. And they often stumble on the expression "Russian". However, a number of our mountain nationalities also commit the same sin.
      Let them better say "I serve Russia."
  3. earloop
    earloop 22 January 2018 19: 02
    +5
    The brief summary of the matter is the “sister” of talent. "Serving Russia"! Similarly, in the "cherry".
  4. novel66
    novel66 22 January 2018 19: 06
    12
    and I would introduce wigs - well, it was beautiful
    1. Rusland
      Rusland 22 January 2018 19: 31
      10
      Well then balls and necessarily mazurka. soldier
      1. novel66
        novel66 22 January 2018 19: 33
        +3
        most certainly !!!!
      2. woron333444
        woron333444 22 January 2018 19: 46
        +3
        And Lieutenant Rzhevsky what
        1. Nehist
          Nehist 22 January 2018 22: 24
          +1
          She doesn’t need Rzhevsky! But personalized Natasha Rostova would be a class !!! wassat wassat
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 January 2018 20: 15
      +2
      Quote: novel xnumx
      and I would introduce wigs - well, it was beautiful

      Leggings, bleached belts, cocked hats - and all that was torn and powdered before the arrival of the next commission! So that Comrade General, in addition to checking the nightstands and the order of winding the threads on the needle, can still count the number of curls on the wig - and certainly get to the bottom of their shape. smile
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 22 January 2018 21: 15
        +1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        So that Comrade General, in addition to checking the nightstands and the order of winding the threads on the needle, can still count the number of curls on the wig - and certainly get to the bottom of their shape.

        And so that subordinates, in general, had a youthful and slightly silly look. wink
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 January 2018 20: 58
      +3
      If you are bald, then beautiful !!!
  5. HEATHER
    HEATHER 22 January 2018 19: 18
    +6
    I serve Russia. So it should be. Once they said, I serve the Soviet Union. Years are coming. Everything is changing. One Russia rises from the ashes of the 90s. And no one could crush us. And it cannot. Therefore, I serve Russia!
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 22 January 2018 19: 19
    +3
    Is that so crap? Or just wanted to? ??
    1. Pax tecum
      Pax tecum 22 January 2018 19: 32
      +2
      Perhaps this makes sense. Find out which one.
      Everything has a reason, a force for action.
      Well, it’s just not customary at that level to explain why and why.
      Even Peskov (the "talking head" of the Kremlin, also probably receives a salary not lower than the deputy yes ) and he began to talk that he had to explain later what he had in mind.
    2. Yarik
      Yarik 22 January 2018 19: 36
      +2
      Herculesych Today, 19:19 New
      Is that so crap?

      This is precisely "cretic". From the word cretinis ... guess the last letter. laughing
      1. Svist
        Svist 23 January 2018 01: 42
        +2
        Excerpts from the text of the oath of the USSR and the Russian Federation:
        the USSR
        I swear to conscientiously study military affairs, to take full care of military and national property and to the last breath to be devoted to your People, your Soviet Motherland and the Soviet Government!
        RF
        I swear to observe the Constitution of the Russian Federation, strictly comply with the requirements of military regulations, orders of commanders and commanders. I swear to fulfill my military duty with dignity courageously defend the freedom, independence and constitutional order of Russia, the people and the Fatherland. ”
        The people come first, the constitutional order now. A trifle? what
        1. Evgenijus
          Evgenijus 23 January 2018 11: 12
          0
          Yes, in the Russian Federation the Fatherland is in the last place, and the first is occupied by some incomprehensible education "constitutional system". As in the West, they invented "democracy" - something incomprehensible and interpreted as you like. ...
          "Everything is mixed up in the Oblonskys' house" ...
  7. Maz
    Maz 22 January 2018 19: 24
    +1
    Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
    Again, an imitation of violent activity before the election. To whom did "Serve the Russian Federation" interfere? Russia and the Russian Federation are one and the same.

    The Federation will be bigger
    1. Yarik
      Yarik 22 January 2018 19: 40
      +1
      Maz Today, 19:24 New
      Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
      Again, an imitation of violent activity before the election. To whom did "Serve the Russian Federation" interfere? Russia and the Russian Federation are one and the same.
      The Federation will be bigger

      "I serve the principality of Smolensk" ..... romance. Or even so - "I serve the prince of Smolensk." Isn't that what it is? Is it slipping to the personality? Slowly so .....
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 23 January 2018 12: 52
      0
      It is the same. Read the text of the constitution of the Russian Federation.
  8. mavrus
    mavrus 22 January 2018 20: 00
    +5
    Quote: vlad66
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Serving Russia!

    I serve the Soviet Union even better. yes

    Serving the Labor People!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 January 2018 20: 50
      +2
      Russia, the Soviet Union - this is all the Fatherland, it is all the Motherland for all of us living in Russia, but also for us, by the will of fate, who ended up abroad after the collapse of the USSR, but who remained the Rx and sons of their Fatherland !!!
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 22 January 2018 21: 00
      +1
      Quote: mavrus
      Quote: vlad66
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Serving Russia!

      I serve the Soviet Union even better. yes

      Serving the Labor People!

      This is all in the past .. for a long time!
      Russia, Fatherland, Motherland .Vera ... This is the main core that will save us all from Western demons and internal .. And the main thing is from the confusion and rebellion of the Russian .. Ruthless and cruel! God bless Russia! hi
  9. Taoist
    Taoist 22 January 2018 20: 08
    0
    "That our life began from the head and not from the belly ..." (c)
  10. faterdom
    faterdom 22 January 2018 20: 26
    +3
    Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
    By the way, “I serve the Soviet Union” and “I serve the Russian Federation” are somehow more familiar, 3 words. But "Serving the Fatherland" and "Serving Russia" slightly cuts the ear.

    Yes, perhaps it would be better to say "Great Russia!" So that everyone gets used to it. And then some is not the largest island - and then, there is "Great Britain", and some Afro-devil calls Russia "regional" Russia.
    Well, "federation", as history shows, is not a dogma. Still, the empire, be it Soviet or some other — is our only stable state, the rest is only transitional forms of troubled times and other seven-boyars.
  11. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 22 January 2018 20: 37
    0
    and the article is kind of crumpled. That's when the servicemen are in the ranks they say - I serve Russia. or when a soldier is personally congratulated, so answer? I think when I personally speak of one and then serve the Russian Federation, and when people are in the ranks, the ranks are in charge of serving Russia
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 23 January 2018 12: 53
      0
      In both cases, "Russia" will now be used.
  12. taiga2018
    taiga2018 22 January 2018 20: 39
    +2
    I managed to answer "Serving the Fatherland!"
  13. Lexus
    Lexus 22 January 2018 20: 42
    +5
    Officials and oligarchs are no longer serving Russia. And to myself, to my wallets, dollars in them. And, in view of the "production necessity", the "under-king" and "uncle sam" are served, moreover, at the same time.

    For them, "Serving the owner!" Is much more relevant.
    And so, of course, if there is nothing to do ...
    1. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 23 January 2018 14: 09
      0
      But what did you want to say? A change in military regulations is being discussed, their officials and oligarchs are not required to comply. They don’t have to shout at all and tell who they serve.
  14. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 January 2018 20: 44
    +2
    All the same, "Serving the Fatherland!" It was better. Until the 1917 year, soldiers went into the battle "For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland!" In the Patriotic War "For Homeland, for Stalin!" So the Fatherland, the Motherland, it is somehow more coming from the heart, Although RUSSIA is also good.
  15. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 January 2018 20: 46
    +3
    I always like this song by Talkov .. I think the guys are right in the subject! A lump in the throat hits the strings of the soul!
    We will break through! Serving Russia ..! soldier
  16. urman
    urman 22 January 2018 21: 07
    +1
    I've always heard rumors, as in modern films, the unit responds in the singular, I serve.
    Or the stars on the shoulder straps of the hundred officers, regiment, regiment. located not at the gaps but at the edges.
    Are they really being bullied or don't really know?
    1. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 23 January 2018 14: 11
      +1
      Modern films are mostly shot by self-confident amateurs, they really don't see the need to make movies well, because they either do it right away or the budget is already cut.
  17. Altona
    Altona 22 January 2018 21: 08
    0
    Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
    By the way, “I serve the Soviet Union” and “I serve the Russian Federation” are somehow more familiar, 3 words. But "Serving the Fatherland" and "Serving Russia" slightly cuts the ear.

    -------------------------------
    Nothing, will soon be changed to three words, I even know some- "Serving the Tsar and the Fatherland."
  18. Karabin
    Karabin 22 January 2018 21: 24
    +3
    In particular, the form of appeal to the commander is changing.

    "Comrade" replaced by "your ford"?
  19. Nemesis
    Nemesis 22 January 2018 21: 35
    +2
    I can imagine what kind of popol this change will cause in Russophobia and separatism patients ... In general, it was high time to do this and not only that ... In the USA, a person accepting US citizenship vows to defend the USA with weapons in his hands, including from his historical Homeland, if it’s a migrant .... Russia is full of patriots of foreign states who have Russian citizenship and travel with the flags of foreign countries, often far from friendly to Russia, in their cars ... In Russia, it is high time to take the oath when obtaining Russian citizenship, the model of the United States, and all Ukrainian patriots spying on the military units of Russia and reporting any movements to the Ukrainian embassy in them, it’s time to deprive the citizenship of the Russian Federation and deport to their homeland ... We do not need foreign spies in the Russian Federation!
  20. loginovich
    loginovich 22 January 2018 21: 50
    +2
    The hand of a master is felt. The combat readiness rises at times. The enemy will be broken in the bud.
  21. faterdom
    faterdom 22 January 2018 21: 50
    +1
    Quote: NOC-VVS
    and the article is kind of crumpled. That's when the servicemen are in the ranks they say - I serve Russia. or when a soldier is personally congratulated, so answer? I think when I personally speak of one and then serve the Russian Federation, and when people are in the ranks, the ranks are in charge of serving Russia

    Always the same. Except cases of congratulations to the unit on any anniversary, event. when put three times "Hurray!"
    However, everything is accurately published on the gov.ru website. Presidential Decree No. 16 of 22.01.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX, where many amendments were made to military manuals. Many amendments are devoted to the rights and duties of the military police, as well as everywhere where it is necessary to add about narcotic and some other substances.
  22. vitvit123
    vitvit123 22 January 2018 22: 09
    0
    Stunned! In the photo, my friend and commander! And all the same, this photo was put in vain.
  23. Dzmicer
    Dzmicer 22 January 2018 22: 15
    +1
    Apparently, fermentations begin in the army due to the fact that the fact that the Russian Federation is not Russia has reached the ranks of the army, and so they have been solved in such a simple and costless way for the treasury to calm down.
  24. Chaos
    Chaos 22 January 2018 22: 30
    0
    And what about this situation in other countries? Serving NATO? And how was the Warsaw Pact when the commander thanked the combined group after the exercises?
  25. maai
    maai 22 January 2018 23: 01
    +1
    Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
    By the way, “I serve the Soviet Union” and “I serve the Russian Federation” are somehow more familiar, 3 words. But "Serving the Fatherland" and "Serving Russia" slightly cuts the ear.

    Fatherland and the Russian Federation are not equivalent concepts, and Russia and the Russian Federation are equivalent.
    It is more about brevity and conciseness, without unnecessary freethinking with a misunderstanding of the semantic component.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 23 January 2018 00: 17
      +1
      Quote: maai
      It's more about brevity and conciseness,

      good Exactly. This has already been discussed. In particular, the approximate time of giving orders and commands in Russian and in English during the fighting was compared. Well, it makes no sense to clarify in which language it turned out shorter and, as a result, faster. yes Yes, and the word "federation", having some speech defects, is difficult to pronounce. Thus, they simplified the construction of the answer as much as possible, which is exactly what is for the army.
  26. maai
    maai 22 January 2018 23: 19
    0
    Quote: Dzmicer
    Apparently, fermentations begin in the army due to the fact that the fact that the Russian Federation is not Russia has reached the ranks of the army, and so they have been solved in such a simple and costless way for the treasury to calm down.

    Rave. Unreasonable chatter.
    It was always clear to normal people that Russia and the Russian Federation were one essence. And regardless of who, in what quantity and what he considers to be “primordially his” on the territory of the Russian Federation, all this is Russia anyway. ;) See the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    About "for the treasury." Any change always requires amendments to regulatory legal acts with all the ensuing costs (staff or non-staff).

    The only meaning of this change is seen as corny in the legal rooting of brevity and clarity, and sometimes practice. Without any desolation. Especially since ... see part 2 of article 1 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    No semantic part has been changed in any way.
    And the need for a change follows from the fact that if the order is directly written in the charter, in spite of everything, it must be executed exactly as it is written. And even if you’re hurt about the constitution saying that it’s one thing, the order is determined by the charter and does not allow deviations.
  27. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 22 January 2018 23: 45
    +2
    But isn’t it time to create soldiers' committees? Then the brother soldiers would decide for themselves what and to whom they should shout.
  28. dosyl
    dosyl 23 January 2018 04: 32
    0
    I like it, I agree. Briefly summarizes and combines the one.
  29. sgr291158
    sgr291158 23 January 2018 06: 28
    0
    Well, finally decided. And then I remember when I served, I didn’t know exactly what to answer, they said what.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 23 January 2018 06: 36
      0
      It should be even simpler: "Serving! Serving! Serving!". wink
  30. Turkestan
    Turkestan 23 January 2018 06: 36
    0
    The beginning of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

    We, the multinational people of the Russian Federation,

    So it should be. FOR THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
    1. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 23 January 2018 13: 01
      0
      Continuation of the constitution:
      Quote: Constitution of the Russian Federation, Art. 1, paragraph 2
      The names Russian Federation and Russia are equivalent.
  31. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 23 January 2018 08: 05
    0
    To me personally, this answer, I do not think that this is Putin’s personal introduction, I like it more. Briefly and clearly, you won’t break your tongue. And it does not violate the requirements of the Constitution. good
  32. ICT
    ICT 23 January 2018 08: 09
    +1
    From 1993 to 2007, it was supposed to say "Serving the Fatherland."


    I don’t know, but from September 1 of 1991 of the year this is for sure. in fact, not law
  33. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 23 January 2018 11: 18
    0
    Right! "Serving Russia" is short, capacious and true.
  34. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 23 January 2018 11: 44
    0
    Putin changed the form of the military’s response to the commander’s gratitude

    lol The main thing is not the form - but the content! lol




    Better, as before, "I serve the working people!"
  35. Navigator Basov
    Navigator Basov 23 January 2018 12: 52
    +1
    The Teutonic appearance of the colonel (Vadim Vladimirovich Baykulov) inspired something.
  36. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 23 January 2018 12: 56
    +1
    Both laughter and sin. Comments are often written by people cursing the exam, claiming that they have received a good education. But at the same time, they do not know the basics of geography, the national composition of the population and the state structure of Russia.
  37. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 23 January 2018 13: 45
    +2
    Right. The team, greeting and response should be short. The word Fatherland is understandable to all of us, but depersonalized for others. Serving Russia! - what you need! What just did not do it before.
  38. myobius59
    myobius59 23 January 2018 15: 47
    0
    Soon this phrase will be even shorter - "I serve you !!!!
  39. Radikal
    Radikal 23 January 2018 18: 48
    0
    Quote: cniza
    Alexander, correctly the main thing is not in formalization, but in the content and impulse of the soul.

    It would not hurt to fill the text of the oath with content! Who took the oath of the Soviet Union - he will understand! soldier
  40. Vladimir SHajkin
    Vladimir SHajkin 24 January 2018 00: 03
    0
    Well, it's easy to pronounce such words in the ranks, along with everyone, but the main thing is not to forget them when you are left alone with the enemy.
    Our country is therefore considered and remains Great, because they were and are those. who do not forget these words, never.
  41. Radikal
    Radikal 24 January 2018 02: 41
    0
    Quote: Shaikin Vladimir
    Well, it's easy to pronounce such words in the ranks, along with everyone, but the main thing is not to forget them when you are left alone with the enemy.
    Our country is therefore considered and remains Great, because they were and are those. who do not forget these words, never.

    Have you uttered these words?
  42. Radikal
    Radikal 24 January 2018 02: 42
    0
    Quote: Sergej1972
    Both laughter and sin. Comments are often written by people cursing the exam, claiming that they have received a good education. But at the same time, they do not know the basics of geography, the national composition of the population and the state structure of Russia.

    good yes
  43. Radikal
    Radikal 24 January 2018 02: 51
    0
    Quote: lexus
    Officials and oligarchs are no longer serving Russia. And to myself, to my wallets, dollars in them. And, in view of the "production necessity", the "under-king" and "uncle sam" are served, moreover, at the same time.

    For them, "Serving the owner!" Is much more relevant.
    And so, of course, if there is nothing to do ...

    So glad that your eyes opened!
  44. nnz226
    nnz226 24 January 2018 17: 17
    +1
    And it was better until the 1943 of the year: "I serve the working people!" And then in Russia, and a lot of all kinds of oligarchs, and other public defenders are, which are the fifth column. And serve them ???
  45. serge siberian
    serge siberian 24 January 2018 19: 05
    0
    Why are we making noise? As the Supreme said, signed, and so will the soldiers. Have they forgotten the charter? soldier
  46. iouris
    iouris 24 January 2018 22: 57
    0
    I myself was born in Russia - in the GDR. My children were born in Russia: one in Lithuania, the second in Latvia. My grandson was born in Moscow. It bothers me that Russia has no borders.
  47. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 24 January 2018 23: 29
    0
    "Serving the Fatherland!" still sounded somehow more penetrating.