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Sergey Lavrov: This was not even during the Cold War

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The Foreign Minister commented on the state of relations between Russia and the West. An interview with the head of Russian diplomacy was published Kommersant after Sergey Lavrov’s three-day trip to New York. While in the United States, the Russian minister took part in two meetings of the UN Security Council.


According to Sergey Lavrov, the current crisis in relations with the United States is "worse than the cold war." The Russian Foreign Minister noted that the reason for the crisis in relations with Washington is that Russia is pursuing an independent, independent line in international affairs.

Speaking about the crisis in Ukraine, Sergey Lavrov called the events of February 2014 of the year in this country a “European disgrace”. According to the Russian foreign minister, the Ukrainian coup d'état is “история betrayal of the West in relation to international law. " We are talking about the agreement of Viktor Yanukovych and the opposition, whose implementation was guaranteed by representatives of Germany, France and Poland. As you know, these states actually refused their guarantees already the next day after signing.

Sergey Lavrov mentioned the numerous facts of heightening anti-Russian hysteria in the West. In particular, we are talking about the work of the commission of Richard McLaren, which unprovenly accuses Russian athletes of almost all the “use” of doping in the format of the “state program”.

From the statement of the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia:
We cannot, being completely disinterested in forging a spiral of confrontation, remain calm when trying to punish Russia in every way, be it our (diplomatic) property, be it the same sanctions or attempts to use sports themes (...) Richard McLaren said in his report that there is no evidence, they do not know how it was done, but they know how it could be done. No normal court in any country would accept such accusations.

Sergey Lavrov: This was not even during the Cold War


In this regard, I recall the situation with the Malaysian Boeing, when three days after this tragedy, the United States began to demand an investigation, while stating that they know who did it, but are confident that the investigation will confirm what they know.


According to Sergey Lavrov, “all these“ Star Wars ”and other notions played a role here.

Sergey Lavrov noted that now there are no ideological contradictions between Russia and the West as in Soviet times, but unfair competition is advancing in the West, lobbying groups and double standards are being used in attempts to achieve their goals, which makes a situation that did not exist even in times cold war.
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  1. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 22 January 2018 05: 58 New
    16
    "There is no ideological contradiction, as in the days of the USSR" ----- as long as there is Russia, its people, Russophobia will always be in the West.
    1. Sharky
      Sharky 22 January 2018 06: 10 New
      +7
      Totally agree with you.
      Lavrov says the right thing. But, too many countries have already gone under the influence of the United States. It makes no sense to drag them one at a time to our camp. Somehow it is necessary to strike a blow at the puppeteer, then the minions will lose their leader and themselves will catch up. But, how beautiful is it to do, without war and casualties? It is necessary to act by the same methods as they did when the USSR collapsed.
      1. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 22 January 2018 15: 07 New
        +4
        Quote: Sharky
        Lavrov says the right thing.

        Just who is listening to him? How can the head of state and state structures be respected, the same Ministry of Foreign Affairs, for example, if the very last aphid spits in their faces and does not consider them to be people?
        https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2017/12/31/prezident-
        estonii-kalyulayd-trebuet-chtoby-rossiya-otkazala
        s-ot-kryma? utm_source = smi2 & utm_term = 9e2e8108-
        39bc-48dd-9739-c6b8fafeeb86&utm_content=89188
        .
        Ebn and Gaidar have died, and their cause lives and thrives! I have no respect for terpils and omissions, which are the other authorities, represented mainly by chameleons from EP ...
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 22 January 2018 06: 13 New
      16
      "There are no ideological contradictions, as in the days of the USSR"

      But there is competition between transnational campaigns, mainly the United States, and the national bourgeoisie - the oligarchs who are in power in Russia, and in other countries, for raw materials and sales markets, which inevitably lead to a clash, sometimes military, sometimes in the form of trade wars between states.
      I don’t know how it is now, but in the Soviet school, back in the 9th grade, we went through the history of the USSR, “imperialism is like the highest stage of capitalism”, based on the work of V.I. Lenin, where he described 5 signs of imperialism.
      So that is nothing new in this world. It’s just that our current politicians have thrown out all the knowledge of the Soviet era, and now they are surprised “This did not happen even during the Cold War.”
    3. bald
      bald 22 January 2018 06: 24 New
      +3
      From time immemorial it was, and is. Selfish envy of the territory, and from here to the riches of our land - will never give them rest. In the future, so that there would not be such collapses, Russia should always have at hand, a Kevlar bridle and a heavy whip - so that even thoughts would not arise about any kind of attacks on Russia.
    4. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 22 January 2018 06: 25 New
      +4
      It seems that in the west there is total madness, inevitably you will begin to wonder if there is an alien invasion of their heads. fool
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 22 January 2018 11: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Spartanez300
        It seems that in the west there is total madness, inevitably you will begin to wonder if there is an alien invasion of their heads. fool

        It seemed to me that an article would be interesting for you: "5 amazing ways how your language affects your thinking" http://muz4in.net/news/5_udivitelnykh_sposobov_to
        go_kak_vash_jazyk_vlijaet_na_vashe_myshlenie / 2014
        -01-15-35024
    5. Maz
      Maz 22 January 2018 12: 27 New
      +1
      It's time to saddle the bears. Charge balalaikas and pour vodka into tanks
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 22 January 2018 06: 09 New
    +6
    A new term is needed to indicate relations between us and the United States such as "anti-Russian insanity", which our politicians should use officially!
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 22 January 2018 06: 14 New
      +8
      This was not even during the Cold War.
      did she stop? This war ...
  3. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 22 January 2018 06: 15 New
    18
    Because modern Russia is many times weaker than the USSR, and there are no satellites in the form of ATS. Therefore, the Americans can afford with respect to Russia that which they could not afford with regard to the USSR. If we hadn’t had strategic nuclear weapons in the form of strategic missile forces and nuclear submarines, we would have been democratized by bombs like Serbia and Libya for a long time. And the top has long been pro-Western with giblets:
    1. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 22 January 2018 06: 41 New
      +7
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      If we hadn’t had strategic nuclear weapons in the form of strategic missile forces and nuclear submarines, we would have been democratized by bombs like Serbia and Libya for a long time. And the top has long been pro-Western with giblets:

      You are in these two sentences and you are contradicting yourself: "the top-selling" means there is no need to resolve the issue by force. You already decide "or defend yourself with nuclear weapons or sell." laughing And so, by the way, Catherine II was generally German, but she can hardly be blamed for “unpatriotism”.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 22 January 2018 06: 58 New
        +6
        The top has been sold all for a long time, but the loot is earning here in Russia on oil, gas, diamonds, non-ferrous and precious metals. And the top to protect their business from pushing Americans, keeps a nuclear baton intact. Without a nuclear baton, the oil and gas business, as well as Norilsk Nickel, RUSAL and Alrosa, the Americans will easily squeeze out how they squeezed their oil and gas business from Gaddafi and Hussein. Is it clear now?
        1. kirgiz58
          kirgiz58 22 January 2018 07: 10 New
          +9
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          wring out how squeezed from Gaddafi and Hussein

          Good example! good That is why they were not quite “sold out”. Capitalism generally means "nothing personal, just business." And therefore
          smaller magnates protect their business with the help of private security companies, and larger ones with the help of the Armed Forces and nuclear weapons. It’s in this context that “sold out” does not fit. And so they (the capitalists) violet what is their nationality and citizenship. So understandable? smile
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 22 January 2018 07: 17 New
            +1
            And so they (the capitalists) violet what is their nationality and citizenship.



            UUUU ... bestial grin of capitalism ... the children of our home-grown oligarchs are just like that.
          2. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 22 January 2018 07: 20 New
            +1
            In fact, the United States is a Fed dog, set by bankers against those who are objectionable. Fed bankers imposed a dollar standard on the world and are fattening by printing unsecured green candy wrappers. So the largest army in the world defends the interests of Fed bankers.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 22 January 2018 07: 35 New
              +5
              Yes-ahhh ... really.
              Insanity, as they say, grew stronger.
              God forbid I live to see this stop
        2. Korax71
          Korax71 22 January 2018 12: 08 New
          +1
          And in more detail, you can? About squeezed out the business! Finally, after the war in Iraq, American oil companies almost completely asked ..... did all the tenders for the development of oil.
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 22 January 2018 23: 27 New
            0
            Quote: Korax71
            finally, after the war in Iraq, American oil companies almost completely failed ..... whether all the tenders for the development of oil.

            So naive wassat . I suppose you still think that in the USA the president decides everything?
    2. 32363
      32363 23 January 2018 04: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      Because modern Russia is many times weaker than the USSR, and there are no satellites in the form of ATS. Therefore, the Americans can afford with respect to Russia that which they could not afford with regard to the USSR. If we hadn’t had strategic nuclear weapons in the form of strategic missile forces and nuclear submarines, we would have been democratized by bombs like Serbia and Libya for a long time. And the top has long been pro-Western with giblets:

      you are all very bad with the "silt"
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 22 January 2018 06: 17 New
    +2
    ABOUT! And even Lavrov noticed the crisis "worse than the Cold War." Probably, finally, his “partner” Rex explained that the Americans are enemies. ... Sergey Viktorovich, does not say the main thing. Now is not the time of Stalin-Brezhnev. And the stake is placed on the "fifth column", and the column is not very poor and influential people. At the diplomatic "armored car" the Foreign Minister will not sit out. Or in pro-American neophytes, or in tough opposition to the plans of the West.
  5. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 22 January 2018 06: 21 New
    +2
    There is undoubtedly benefit from such performances, we must continue to poke the West with our noses at their dirty tricks, like naughty cats, but only force will be respected. Strengthening the Armed Forces is the only worthy answer.
  6. Galan
    Galan 22 January 2018 06: 26 New
    +5
    The whole "Western civilization" is built on lies, greed and self-aggrandizement. It is either impossible to agree on anything, if they are betrayed by it, they will spit on any of the most "concrete" agreements. And now also cowardly. You can negotiate with them only with a club behind you and, in case of fraud, “hit on the head.” The Collective West is the worthy successor of Charles Maurice Talleyrand, a synonym for duplicity, cunning and unscrupulousness, and this must always be borne in mind when negotiating anything with him.
    1. Korax71
      Korax71 22 January 2018 12: 13 New
      +1
      Well, if you look critically, then duplicity and deception, self-exaltation and faith in exceptionalism are exactly the same trait of Russians as Americans. Or do you think that the USSR has never broken an agreement?
    2. Normal ok
      Normal ok 22 January 2018 12: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: galan
      The whole "Western civilization" is built on lies, greed and self-aggrandizement.

      I will surprise you - in general, the entire human civilization is built "on lies, greed and self-exaltation."
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 January 2018 06: 34 New
    +3
    "European shame"
    It was also necessary to add that it was not only a shame, but also a crime (helping to overthrow the legitimate authority).
    no evidence, they don’t know how it was done, but they know how it could be done
    Representatives of the West, when it comes to Russia, always know what they really do not know. Good position of cynics and scammers to implement their plans. This is trying to live and dictate their conditions.
  8. Simon
    Simon 22 January 2018 06: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: vladimirZ
    "There are no ideological contradictions, as in the days of the USSR"

    But there is competition between transnational campaigns, mainly the United States, and the national bourgeoisie - the oligarchs who are in power in Russia, and in other countries, for raw materials and sales markets, which inevitably lead to a clash, sometimes military, sometimes in the form of trade wars between states.
    I don’t know how it is now, but in the Soviet school, back in the 9th grade, we went through the history of the USSR, “imperialism is like the highest stage of capitalism”, based on the work of V.I. Lenin, where he described 5 signs of imperialism.
    So that is nothing new in this world. It’s just that our current politicians have thrown out all the knowledge of the Soviet era, and now they are surprised “This did not happen even during the Cold War.”

    And what - Lenin was right! Now imperialism is trying to crush the whole world for itself, but we are bothering them.
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 22 January 2018 12: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: Simon
      Now imperialism is trying to crush the whole world for itself, but we are bothering them.

      Incorrect use of terms. "Imperialism" is the expansion of a state (or other institution) with the goal of establishing "imperial" (overlord-vassal) orders. Therefore, next to the word "imperialism" they always write which one. For example: American imperialism, British imperialism, etc. In our case, American imperialism is faced with Russian imperialism. Moreover, as Lavrov said, both have the same capitalist nature.
  9. Simon
    Simon 22 January 2018 06: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: galan
    The whole "Western civilization" is built on lies, greed and self-aggrandizement. It is either impossible to agree on anything, if they are betrayed by it, they will spit on any of the most "concrete" agreements. And now also cowardly. You can negotiate with them only with a club behind you and, in case of fraud, “hit on the head.” The Collective West is the worthy successor of Charles Maurice Talleyrand, a synonym for duplicity, cunning and unscrupulousness, and this must always be borne in mind when negotiating anything with him.

    All right! Example: US presidents say one thing before the election, and when they choose, they do the other - the opposite!
    1. Korax71
      Korax71 22 January 2018 12: 14 New
      0
      It feels like we have after the other elections laughing
  10. Vard
    Vard 22 January 2018 07: 29 New
    0
    Yes, a hedgehog is understandable ... Russia is recapturing what was taken from her ... and giving back the loot is always a shame ... here they are howling ...
  11. sabotage
    sabotage 22 January 2018 07: 39 New
    +3
    According to Sergey Lavrov, the current crisis in relations with the United States is "worse than the cold war." The Russian Foreign Minister noted that the reason for the crisis in relations with Washington is that Russia is pursuing an independent, independent line in international affairs.


    That is all you need to know about our "successes" in foreign policy. Relations spoil, no results. Some empty statements and formidable Russian silence.
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 22 January 2018 09: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: sabotage
      Some empty statements and formidable Russian silence.

      "Many say that Russia is pouting. Russia is not pouting, Russia is focusing." His Grace Prince A.M. Gorchakov.
  12. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 22 January 2018 09: 37 New
    0
    .... makes a situation that was not even during the Cold War .....

    I agree, completely! The confrontation has not gone away! Only ... In those days, our country was with an almost completely self-sufficient economy, plus the VD countries, plus the absence, inside, of liberals. Now, we are practically alone, with a lame economy, a lack of an idea that unites a society, a poor population, and no coherent future. If not true justifications
    1. Korax71
      Korax71 22 January 2018 12: 45 New
      0
      Well, it’s not entirely independent. There was always a dependence on technology supplies. It was just that at one time the USSR did it all through 3 countries or espionage. Not to say that it was bad. It was normal. influence only through a nuclear club. yes, now we can influence Europe by means of a gas pipe, we will make ourselves economically worse. At the same time, the Tang dance has a huge influence in the world. The Chinese brothers, in the case of a schukher, will make a choice, for example, between Russia and the USA. I don’t think that they will pocket their own money for ideological reasons. Too many countries depend on the US economy. And this is a much more effective lever of influence.
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 22 January 2018 13: 02 New
        0
        Partly agree with you, but Scoop was much more stable, economically, nevertheless. Whatever the adherents of the theory of "economic suicide of the USSR" would say, there is still a slightly different reason.
        Now, I can’t even really feed myself (I’m silent about the industrial production). But, what is more worrying, is society, the relationship in it and its "values." This, it is simply obliged, to deal with the state. And here is "Dom2" ..
  13. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 22 January 2018 09: 42 New
    +2
    Quote: Sharky
    Totally agree with you.
    Lavrov says the right thing. But, too many countries have already gone under the influence of the United States. It makes no sense to drag them one at a time to our camp. Somehow it is necessary to strike a blow at the puppeteer, then the minions will lose their leader and themselves will catch up. But, how beautiful is it to do, without war and casualties? It is necessary to act by the same methods as they did when the USSR collapsed.

    In order for other countries to "turn" to us, it is necessary to be strongest. And you need an IDEA, not idle chatter.
  14. K-50
    K-50 22 January 2018 09: 46 New
    0
    This bacchanalia of Russophobia will end with the Great Arctic Fox. sad
    And then do not let them say, "but for what we are." yes angry
  15. Altona
    Altona 22 January 2018 10: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: vladimirZ
    So that is nothing new in this world. It’s just that our current politicians have thrown out all the knowledge of the Soviet era, and now they are surprised “This did not happen even during the Cold War.”

    ---------------------------
    I agree with you, they threw the “damned bloody scoop” into the trash, and now they wonder why they are weighed everywhere, and they really can’t answer.
  16. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 22 January 2018 10: 55 New
    +2
    The Cold War began in 2014. After the annexation of Crimea to Russia.
    Prior to this, there was several years of "cooling", but the situation was reversible.
    Crimea is very important for Russia. Donbass is important. This can be understood.
    But any such action (joining) has a serious price.
    Price for Crimea - economic sanctions and an arms race. Cold war
    Lavrov is an experienced diplomat, he knew all this very well and knows.
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 22 January 2018 11: 03 New
      +1
      I wonder how this event will go down in world historiography: Anschluss or reunion. what
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 22 January 2018 11: 17 New
        +1
        Of course, I apologize, but you would try, moreover, compare Putin with Hitler am
      2. Antares
        Antares 22 January 2018 13: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Ronald Reagan
        into world historiography: Anschluss or reunion

        depending on where. And there were several resolutions on it.
        About Lavrov. Exclamation is more like a complaint to the "partners" that they are bad and bad.
        It was worse, just money was not at stake, but fate and life. And now money is in the first place for the capitalist RF, which means it remains only to negotiate with the "partners". Just at the moment there are no conditions for an equivalent dialogue on all fronts.
      3. Weyland
        Weyland 22 January 2018 23: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Ronald Reagan
        Anschluss or reunion

        it's the same thing - in different languages!
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 12: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The Cold War began in 2014 ... Lavrov is an experienced diplomat, he knew all this very well and knows.

      Only it seems to me that there would be no Crimea, they would have come up with another reason.
      Like a classic there: sat down to play with cheaters: keep the candelabrum handy angry
  17. Altona
    Altona 22 January 2018 13: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Antares
    Exclamation is more like a complaint to the "partners" that they are bad and bad.

    ----------------------------
    Anecdote in the topic:
    Lavrov: "Relations with our partners are still very complicated." A cry from the Government: "And you are definitely not exaggerating?" laughing