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Riot APU

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The new war in the Donbas, the likelihood of which with the adoption of the Verkhovna Rada Reintegration of Donbass Act, has moved from the WNKer’s 80 percent to the 100, is not as easy to start as it seems to other commentators. Washington and his special representative Kurt Volker, a friend of Senator John McCain, are fueling the war as they can by supporting radical nationalist forces in Kiev, but the Ukrainian armed forces under the command of Chief of the General Staff, Viktor Poroshenko, will advance on the front.


Riot APU


Other commentators say that the APU is so strong and has gained a lot of mind in the boilers that it will break the resistance of the buildings of the Armed Forces of New Russia, especially with the help of the American weapons. That's just the APU itself doubts this, and does not want to attack.

Recall that all fall 2017, the Americans tried to throw the APU in the attack on the Donbass, threatening otherwise with the Maidan "Saakashvili" in Kiev, but Defense Minister Poltorak and Chief of the General Staff Muzhenko, in fact, threatened Commander Poroshenko with their resignations. Muzhenko gave a press conference, where he expressed concern about the heavy losses in the event of an offensive, and hinted at a meeting with the president about this. Poltorak raised the question of disarming the Nazis or subordinating them to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and rumors were circulating in the press about his resignation.

These resignations did not take place, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces did not launch a large-scale offensive, limiting themselves to artillery shelling and “toad jumps” in the gray zone on the front line, in which rumors were told that, first of all, neo-Nazi battalions were used up. Kurt Volker, who stopped Saakashvili’s Maidan for the sake of an offensive in the Donbass, was left with nothing, in fact, held him up like a boy.

Mockery in the form of a “toad offensive” prompted, apparently, Special Representative Volker to take the initiative to seize the Donbass with the help of “peacekeepers” under their roof, because the forceful seizure with the help of the Armed Forces of Ukraine failed. But the “peacemaking” seizure was blocked by Russia: Putin declared that he would not allow massacres in Donbass as in the Yugoslav Srebrenica, under the guise of supposedly “peacemakers”.

The failure of the idea of ​​a “peacekeeping” occupation of Donbass revives Washington’s plans for a military decision by adopting a law on war in order to force the Ukrainian Armed Forces to go on the offensive by lifting all formal constitutional restrictions on military actions in peacetime, which they cling to in the Ukrainian General Staff. It is not by chance that American advisers take part in the drafting of the law “on the reintegration of Donbass”. The law on "reintegration" allows, as it were, to legally unleash a war - all experts speak of this, the head of the DPR, Alexander Zakharchenko, called it the legislative foundation for a new war.

However, in matters of war and peace, any law that is airborne: wherever you turn, there will come out, there is not enough of a “law of war” to start a war. In order for the troops to go into battle, the Americans need to replace commanders who are unreliable, expressing concern about big losses, with those who will not be embarrassed by big losses.

In other words, after Poroshenko signs the law “on the reintegration of Donbass”, Washington will need to guarantee itself against the new “toad jumps” to change the leadership of the Ukrainian Supreme Court, Poltorak and Muzhenko, replacing the crazy reckless Nazis. To do this, you need to remove the commander in chief Poroshenko, because they are his proteges. Therefore, the requirements of the impeachment or the voluntary resignation of Poroshenko do not weaken, they are, in fact, joined by the collective West - the Atlantic Council of the USA, the IMF, the European Union and the European Parliament - with its supposedly “anti-corruption campaign”.

After Poroshenko signed the law on “reintegration” - the war, it becomes a hindrance for Washington and Kurt Volcker, so Ukraine can have another big event, a convenient occasion for which is the fourth anniversary of the February Maidan coup. Namely: the voluntary resignation or “people's impeachment” of Poroshenko, with the assignment of his duties, for example, to former Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, a persistent Nordic nationalist who recently returned to Ukraine from the United States.

Following Poroshenko, resignations of Poltorak, Muzhenko and other insufficiently reliable officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are inevitable. In fact, it will be a new coup d'état, for everyone it will be obvious that the world press would lie about this, as well as its goal: to start a war in the Donbas, with possible provocations against the “aggressor country”. How will the APU, the General Staff, behave in the conditions of a new coup d'etat, understanding that they will be driven to slaughter in the Donbas?

If the US goes to power removal Poroshenko from power, a riot of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is possible. Issues of life and death greatly enhance mental abilities, and the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine once again “win the victory of hydration” promises mass slaughter in the Donbass only because someone wants to spoil the presidential election of Vladimir Putin.

Any general or colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine may use this as a reason for rebellion. Such an uprising in the army will, of course, require a banner, and there are candidates for it, to take at least the hero of Ukraine Nadia Savchenko, who has become an opposition politician, a Rada deputy and expressing extraordinary views on solving the conflict in Donbas. For the initial success of the rebels, the military will only need to disarm the Nazi battalions, relations with which the APU has long hostile.
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  1. Baloo
    Baloo 22 January 2018 06: 20 New
    15
    For initial success, the rebel military will only need to disarm the Nazi battalions,

    Disarm? Fascists? They are subject to physical destruction, no more.
    One "rebellion" APU is not enough. There are also parts of special operations and SBU prepared by the Americans.
    The article is searchlight, but there is new information. Thank.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 22 January 2018 06: 43 New
      +9
      it will only be necessary to disarm the Nazi battalions
      and also reformat the consciousness of the "maydanutyh", and this is a long and painstaking task!
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 22 January 2018 07: 53 New
        0
        in short - give cheap gas
        1. Metallurg_2
          Metallurg_2 25 January 2018 07: 08 New
          0
          And a dollar for 8)
    2. dSK
      dSK 22 January 2018 08: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: Balu
      new information

      Quote: Victor Kamenev
      Defense Minister Poltorak and Chief of General Staff Muzhenko, in fact, threatened Commander-in-Chief Poroshenko with their resignations.
      Graduates of Russian academies are not eager to "carry chestnuts out of the fire with their bare hands" for Uncle Sam.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 22 January 2018 09: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: dsk
        Graduates of Russian academies are not eager to "carry chestnuts out of the fire with their bare hands" for Uncle Sam.

        They require a written order from beggar, this is the essence of ambiguous acts. Oligarchs press on good deeds, who organize provocations.
        With the adoption of a new concept, the situation can change at any time.
        1. dSK
          dSK 22 January 2018 09: 35 New
          +1
          Russia will be "forgiven" by Crimea and Donbas if it gives firm "guarantees" that it will not help the Russians in the rest of Ukraine. Will Russia, Ukraine not Yugoslavia go for it, and a little more strength. hi
          1. Normal ok
            Normal ok 22 January 2018 13: 03 New
            +2
            Quote: dsk
            Russia will be "forgiven" by Crimea and Donbas if it gives firm "guarantees" that it will not help the Russians in the rest of Ukraine.

            The more Russia helps us (“Russians in the rest of Ukraine”), the worse it gets. Maybe enough to "help."
            1. Antares
              Antares 22 January 2018 13: 27 New
              +6
              Quote: Normal ok
              Maybe enough to "help"

              it’s difficult to understand whether it’s help or not, and whether Russia’s help or not.
              The people here do not decide anything (except for their relatives). They lowered something from above and insist on mass media that there is something there.
              and rub on the Internet about the good and the bad, take Kiev, Moscow, Washington, etc. .. The Internet also allows.
            2. Mestny
              Mestny 22 January 2018 15: 59 New
              +5
              Here, by the way, is a typical example of Ukrainian "gratitude."
              Maybe it's time to stop helping.
              1. Alexey Sommer
                Alexey Sommer 23 January 2018 18: 25 New
                +1
                You should be sent there for a week.
              2. antivirus
                antivirus 25 January 2018 16: 36 New
                0
                yeah, when asked to help (already forgotten) - now leave me alone, visa-free == 1000 oyro must be sausage.


                antivirus 2 June 19, 2017 10:20 | Crimean border: 168 kilometers of torment arc
                As for the Crimeans, for them a visit to Ukraine is a difficult and sometimes very dangerous quest. Those who at one time renounced Ukrainian citizenship officially and handed in a “passport with a trident” have no options in principle.
                ON APRIL 16 D arrived 2 PEOPLE from Dzhankoy. BUY A MACHINE (ENGINE OVERHEATED)
                -what did before the referendum. how did you live?
                - nothing. any hunting cartridges bought
          2. Metallurg_2
            Metallurg_2 25 January 2018 07: 09 New
            0
            Silenok is bigger, but there is something missing in our leadership’s eggs. Rather, instead of eggs - accounts of "Putin's friends" in foreign banks. They are held for them, like eggs.
    3. nnz226
      nnz226 22 January 2018 12: 58 New
      13
      I agree! All Nazi-Bandera trash must be destroyed! For, as Suvorov also said: "The uncut forest grows!" As shown by the practice of the USSR. The liberals Comrade Stalin and Beria gave Bandera a “chervonets” instead of burning these cubes to the 7 knee. A bald Khrushchev generally amnestied. Here are the descendants of these undefeated creatures now marching with torches along the streets of the hero city of Kiev ....
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 22 January 2018 14: 37 New
      +4
      Poroshenko still has a lot to do. You can, for example, adopt the Law on the Great Peremog, the Law on the Establishment of the Day of the Celebration of the Great Peremog, the Law on the Responsibility of Zradniks for the Denial of the Great Peremog, but there are still few. winked
      1. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 25 January 2018 07: 11 New
        0
        Overpower what? Over the mind? Ah, well, yes ...
    5. Alekseev
      Alekseev 22 January 2018 19: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: Balu
      The article is searchlight, but there is new information.

      The article states the main condition for ending the war, "turning bayonets", disarming all kinds of different Svidomo activists and Georgian legionaries who have joined them, etc. evil spirits: "The questions of life and death greatly enhance mental abilities." both commanders and ordinary soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as other masses.
      This is not news, nor is the fact that armament, discipline, the number of DLNR militia units should be such that it is extremely dangerous for warriors in the zone of the so-called ATO.
    6. Sapiens 63
      Sapiens 63 22 January 2018 22: 45 New
      +2
      The article is cheap agitation, in a pseudo-patriotic style. And about the disarmament of the national battalions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine delirium. Those who clap the author of the article in their hands let them read the memoirs and Notes of the ATO participants or simply talk to participants in the events. And here I look more and more knowledge from federal channels draw.
      Something that reminds me of the mood before the Second World War in the USSR. What can not the German proletariat fight with the same working people, how did everyone remember it?
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 22 January 2018 06: 32 New
    +7
    Victor hi when their units begin to leave their positions en masse and return to winter apartments, then it will be possible to talk about a real revolt of the Armed Forces of Ukraine! And this is all bidding! For places in the government, for money, for armaments - for a lot! And so curators from the USA and Europe will try to start the war more than once.
    1. Angler
      Angler 22 January 2018 14: 34 New
      0
      Already.
      https://news.rambler.ru/ukraine/38950689-prosto-p
      ogruzilis-i-uehali /? utm_source = head & utm_campa
      ign = self_promo & utm_medium = news & utm_conten
      t = news
      The first one went.
  3. Bastinda
    Bastinda 22 January 2018 06: 46 New
    0
    promises a massacre in the Donbass just because someone wants to to spoil presidential elections to Vladimir Putin.

    Interesting scenarios, but this one especially concerns me, I live in Russia. Long live democracy!
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 January 2018 07: 32 New
    +7
    As for the possible revolt of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, probably it’s not worth talking yet. There are also enough of their scumbags. But the growing antagonism between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Bats is welcome. Let them clatter each other and the more the better.
    1. avt
      avt 22 January 2018 12: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      As for the possible revolt of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, probably it’s not worth talking yet.

      This is from the realm of fantasy.
      Quote: vlad007
      Poroshenko’s fate does not depend on the war in the Donbass, but on the economic situation inside the country,

      bully The fate of Piglet DOES NOT depend on the state of the Ruin, that is, any, and more precisely any component of its slow decay. And even more so
      Quote: vlad007
      associated with the allocation of IMF loans.

      Quote: Egoza
      APU while "modestly silent"

      request Elena ! Remember that the sinful Az wrote at the beginning of the Maidan affairs - there is neither Kovpak, nor Makhno on the Rune, much less new Shchors and Bozhenko. Just not all. Even the candidates for it are both living and dead in LDNR. Well, with what a fright there dill appear? I don’t even believe that the creation of the US-Nalivaychenko, if they give him the go-ahead, will be on a par with the Chilean dictator. There is only one scenario on the Ruin - “Wedding at the Robin”, BUT not in the form of a vaudeville-operetta, but quite a bloody drama.
  5. Egoza
    Egoza 22 January 2018 08: 15 New
    +5
    The Armed Forces are still "modestly silent", but more than 2000 contract workers have refused to renew their contracts, and this is already good.
  6. vlad007
    vlad007 22 January 2018 08: 18 New
    +3
    Poroshenko’s fate does not depend on the war in the Donbass, but on the economic situation in the country, which is associated with the allocation of IMF loans. One of the conditions for granting a loan is the lifting of a moratorium on the sale of land. The moratorium has not yet been lifted, and this is precisely what the Americans do not like. For them, Ukraine is a pie that they want to cut and eat at their discretion.
  7. Nemesis
    Nemesis 22 January 2018 09: 16 New
    +5
    Bandera cowardice does not make them friends of Russia and the Russian people ...
  8. AleBors
    AleBors 22 January 2018 09: 30 New
    +2
    In principle, interesting assumptions. It may be so. Wait and see. But with general venality in this country, other, even the craziest, options are not excluded.
  9. Scud
    Scud 22 January 2018 10: 22 New
    +8
    Today, until one in the morning I watched a dock film shot in the trenches of a ukrokhunta in the winter, but possibly last.
    Almost everyone speaks Russian, equipment-remote control of a large-caliber machine gun on a caterpillar track, the latest snipers, night instruments, and constant work with drones.
    Today, war trenches in the trenches are extremely profitable for ukrovoyaks — a solid salary, a lot of all-important benefits, bring home or give BC merchandise, etc.
    I doubt any rebellion of these coffins, for them the mother-war is native.
    1. marlin1203
      marlin1203 22 January 2018 17: 43 New
      +3
      Sitting in the trenches for a paycheck and dying for a paycheck are “two big differences.”
  10. Berkut24
    Berkut24 22 January 2018 10: 45 New
    +7
    In fact, it is a thankless task to predict the behavior of a herd of degenerates at a critical moment ...
  11. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 22 January 2018 10: 49 New
    +2
    That is, the situation is twisted to the limit. Swedish leaflets in case of war, well, the Scandinavian hysteria, the Baltic miracles against the background of hunger and other European movements are well suited to the topic. Everything is very bad. Our "partners" predict the war with the possibility of its escalation to the European theater.
    That is, the Americans hope the Scandinavians are afraid, and they are all waiting for an explosion on the floor of Europe. So far, the Natsiks, who know well who they will have to attack, are desperately bargaining, obviously extorting advances. At the same time, hoping to quickly blame it, if the Russian army goes to counterattack. But they also have a second plan, on which they have great hopes!
    Namely, the European contingent of NATO will quickly intervene in the conflict. Yes, the Europeans absolutely do not want a “hot” conflict with us, but they are not the ones who command NATO! The command belongs to the Americans. It is enough to shove any NATO units into the fire, in any quantity, in any way, even if they have lied to them about the relocation, and the fire will unceasingly ignite.
    We are not able to fight more than a week. We have no weapons, no money, no army. Days 5-6 and all. Consequently, the only working scenario is nuclear attacks on European "centers of resistance." Knock out NATO bases and after that ... delirium and the plague ... try to occupy Europe !!
    Complete nonsense, nonsense and nonsense, but what else can we do? Fight longer? Impossible economically. Give up An option, of course ... if we are ready to die out immediately. That's the situation, damn it burned.
    1. slavaseven
      slavaseven 22 January 2018 11: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Mikhail3
      We are not able to fight more than a week. We have no weapons, no money, no army. Days 5-6 and all.

      Maybe I'm not as knowledgeable as you, but where do you get such conclusions?
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 22 January 2018 11: 53 New
        +3
        And you look at the materials of an absolutely open press, so to speak. What we release, how we release, in what quantity we drive and put into service ... Now there are no secrets.
        Yes, maybe we have a few ultra-secret caches. Probably there are hundreds of one and a half missiles and twenty pieces of “king-bombs” —volume of ammunition. Everything else simply cannot be accumulated in a completely open situation at the defense sector factories - scanty pay, staff shortages due to this, constantly occurring force majeure with money ... the USSR carefully accumulated serious reserves. And we? The fact that we are doing the same thing, and this can be really kept a secret ... believe in it? Ehehe ...
        1. slavaseven
          slavaseven 22 January 2018 12: 50 New
          +1
          I agree on something in you, on something not.
          In any case - wait and see
          1. marlin1203
            marlin1203 22 January 2018 17: 45 New
            +1
            Apparently, you are a purely civilian person and do not know anything about mobility.
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 22 January 2018 18: 39 New
              +4
              What about? Who are you going to turn into mobs ?! Just kidding with all the sadness. Who are we mobilizing? What is the readiness of recruits? What can they do? How long does it take to turn these guys into fighters?
              Vsevobuch is strange to you. whether? Or for some reason you think. what did people go to NVP schools? But to hear - I’m not going to defend the Rotenberg loot, are you not afraid of the whole system? I heard something ...
              1. Metallurg_2
                Metallurg_2 25 January 2018 07: 16 New
                0
                Are you sure that the NATO soldiers will go to fight for purposes incomprehensible to them specifically?
                Even Frederick the Great said: "If the soldiers understood what they were fighting for, it would not be possible to wage a single war." A thinking and understanding soldier is the worst nightmare of any general.
                It doesn’t matter that there is a nuclear button: it is important that the person sitting behind it, having received an order to press it, will still think: is it worth it?
        2. Victor Kamenev
          23 January 2018 00: 01 New
          +1
          Stop the tantrum, and look at the open American press, which is terrified by Russian arms, and already by the economy, which cannot be broken.
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 23 January 2018 12: 17 New
            +1
            I don’t understand anything. If I “stop hysteria”, then will the recruits gain knowledge of the NVP, which they did not have? Or will they receive them instantly, in a psychic way (now, it turns out, why do we have "battles of psychics"?) Or, perhaps, we will have national unity between snickering thieves and their powerless slaves?
            What are you talking about?
          2. Shkodnick
            Shkodnick 23 January 2018 19: 41 New
            +1
            In the first case, in order to knock out your budget, in the second case, you covertly praise your vassals, watch any of the programs of the Tsargrad channel on YouTube, and you will understand that our economy is an appendage sucking taxes from the people and pouring huge amounts of money into American bonds .. I wrote this to Victor, to his trembling and praise of the West
    2. Filxnumx
      Filxnumx 24 January 2018 20: 06 New
      +1
      Give up An option, of course ... if we are ready to die out immediately.

      I’ll go to partisan and take my son with me. Although during the service more often than a pistol a wrench was held in his hands, but in any case it is better than to rot slowly.
  12. Serzh_R
    Serzh_R 22 January 2018 11: 53 New
    +4
    with the adoption of the Verkhovna Rada of the law "on the reintegration of Donbass" rushed from 80 Volker interest to 100

    Now, let these patriots present the people of Ukraine with volunteer lists in the Donbass with their sons.
  13. vladikod
    vladikod 22 January 2018 12: 49 New
    +5
    It is high time to disarm the Nazis, only the indecision of some APU commanders remains an obstacle to the liberation of all Ukraine from the nationalist Bandera infection and the liberation from Washington slavery ......
  14. Dimmih
    Dimmih 22 January 2018 13: 31 New
    +4
    It’s certainly nice to read: “Recall that all the autumn of 2017, the Americans tried to throw the APU into an attack on the Donbass,” Like a puppet and all that ... Until you think about the meaning. As they say, what will be your evidence? There is-in the studio, no-you yourself know who. The argument "well, we know" does not offer. “You” is unknown to anyone, and what you know is a huge question ...
    1. Victor Kamenev
      23 January 2018 00: 13 New
      0
      And what is not a puppet? Your evidence? A "toad offensive" was? What was that? Saakshvili himself arrived? Untouchable?
      1. Dimmih
        Dimmih 23 January 2018 05: 07 New
        +1
        What is your evidence? If they are not there, you yourself know who. Refute.
  15. Antares
    Antares 22 January 2018 13: 42 New
    +4
    While reading Kamenev, I always remember a passage from Ann and Serge Golon (Angelica) the moment of the trial
    De Peyrac shrugged impatiently and said in a tired voice: - How can one refute the fabrications of a person who has clearly lost his mind? “Defendant, you have no right to evade an answer,” Massno calmly intervened. - Do you recognize ...

    And so it is every time, and there are more and more Kamenev's articles. Some kind of carpet bombing #Ukraine soon.
    I wonder now what articles he had on the topic of the ambulance war of recent
    https://news-front.info/tag/viktor-kamenev/
    grassroots analytics. More slogans, emotions, propaganda, historical analogies in a free style.
    1. dzen123
      dzen123 22 January 2018 16: 33 New
      +4
      I absolutely support. The question is, will Kamenev wave the Russian flag on his head tank tearing toward Kiev, standing at full height? Blurted out without thinking, huh? wink

      And also a frequent guest of the sections "Analytics" and "Opinion" Yuri Podolyaka. Sometimes for his "analyst" I want to call him "Podlyuk" because he is the same provocateur. Although "smears oil paintings" directly on an imperial scale. The same style - zero specifics + inference car.

      I once wrote to Kamenev that a direct excellent writer of the genre came out of him: “if grandmother grew up knowing something, then grandmother would - u-u-uhhh!”. Resentment in response was two buckets and a scoop on top. laughing It would be time to bring water ... at least it would be good.
    2. Victor Kamenev
      23 January 2018 00: 19 New
      +2
      Looks like I got you, so glad. In addition to the general abuse you have nothing, not on one item. Pay attention to Vadim Karasev, he predicts the collapse of Krajina in 2018, this is the analyst!
      1. dzen123
        dzen123 24 January 2018 14: 42 New
        +1
        No, it’s rather like “Vita needs to get out ...” laughing
        And we did not scold you, Victor. So, two commentators shared a subjective impression of the author’s works. And you immediately “get” the couple gathered and wave above your head. You have to be less touchy.
        On the "prediction" of geopolitical events and processes. With whom in Russia it has always been fashionable to do. This thing is inaccurate and ungrateful. However, terribly interesting. Because the characters and places of events in your (and other authors) predictions have a place to be directly "in sight". And it all depends on the flight altitude of the “predictor” thought, the breadth of fantasy and the ability to twist characters in the plot!
        No, to be honest, I admire you. As a writer. As an analyst ... not yet. But try hard. The road will be overcome by a walker
  16. revnagan
    revnagan 22 January 2018 13: 46 New
    +1
    "For the initial success, the rebel military will only need to disarm the Nazi battalions, the relations with which the APU has long been hostile." (Cit.)
    Yeah, and even the Nazi Guards. Kotrykh, firstly, one and a half times more, and who are better armed than the Armed Forces. Things ...
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 24 January 2018 21: 36 New
      0
      real violent few. there are no leaders!
  17. Curious
    Curious 22 January 2018 16: 25 New
    +3
    Were Tolkien alive, after reading the works of this author he would have succumbed to envy.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      23 January 2018 00: 20 New
      0
      And Karasev Tolkien can not replace?
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  19. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 22 January 2018 16: 54 New
    +2
    The next couch analysis, it is impossible to do analyzes based on open information from neta, there is still a closed topic in the general staff of opponents, all this speculation is difficult to predict the Ukrainian theme
    1. Victor Kamenev
      23 January 2018 00: 22 New
      +1
      If he knew, he would have lived in Sochi, but if he knew the info of the General Staff ...
      1. dzen123
        dzen123 24 January 2018 14: 47 New
        0
        "... but I would know the info of the General Staff ... I would be sitting in the depths of Siberian ores." Yes? Which, sobsno, confirms my statement about you, as stated in the comment above.
  20. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 22 January 2018 16: 55 New
    0
    Quote: dzen123
    I absolutely support. The question is, will Kamenev wave the Russian flag on his head tank tearing toward Kiev, standing at full height? Blurted out without thinking, huh? wink

    And also a frequent guest of the sections "Analytics" and "Opinion" Yuri Podolyaka. Sometimes for his "analyst" I want to call him "Podlyuk" because he is the same provocateur. Although "smears oil paintings" directly on an imperial scale. The same style - zero specifics + inference car.

    I once wrote to Kamenev that a direct excellent writer of the genre came out of him: “if grandmother grew up knowing something, then grandmother would - u-u-uhhh!”. Resentment in response was two buckets and a scoop on top. laughing It would be time to bring water ... at least it would be good.

    Well, Podolyak at least analyzes, but I don’t observe your analyzes
    1. dzen123
      dzen123 24 January 2018 14: 49 New
      0
      I can send you my "analyzes" by mail. What container are you in? 3 liters fit? If there is someone floating on top in the bank, do not be alarmed - this is for analysis on worms.
  21. aKtoR
    aKtoR 22 January 2018 16: 57 New
    +2
    Poor military APU ... They are going to surrender s. Few of them will return to zhinki and mothers. The intelligence will know about the strike in advance and the troops will come out far enough on the territory of Ukraine ... Then just wait for a significant deterioration in relations with the United States and the EU
    It will be difficult to pull out new territories
  22. dDYHA
    dDYHA 22 January 2018 17: 28 New
    +6
    Everything is much simpler. It is necessary to make life for a simple person in the Russian Federation so sweet. So that pensioners fly abroad to the resort twice a year. So that medicine at any level was free. So that the minimum wage was 50 thousand rubles. And then Ukraine itself will suddenly immediately remember that it is our brother and sister. That we are of the same blood. Moreover, everyone will immediately be drawn to Russia. No need to fight. It is necessary to show how well you live and everyone will be drawn to you.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 22 January 2018 20: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: dDYHA
      So that pensioners fly abroad to the resort twice a year

      And what do you know about Russian resorts, you probably think that they are all in the Crimea and the Krasnodar Territory. Deep delusion. What do you know about the FSS fund? Through it, just pensioners and you can send for a state account to the resorts of the Russian Federation. Details at insurance companies and the local GP. They will tell everyone, it’s not clear, contact the fund. And about twice a year, who said it was necessary?
    2. Starley.ura
      Starley.ura 28 January 2018 18: 35 New
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      Well-fed Libyans ended badly! And the union did not starve. It’s harder to tear your thick ass off the sofa, even for your own protection.
  23. steelmaker
    steelmaker 22 January 2018 23: 21 New
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    I read it as a fantastic story. And then I thought, what if Poroshenko does not sign this law?
    1. Victor Kamenev
      23 January 2018 00: 24 New
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      More Stirlitz allowed himself to dream ...
  24. Natasha Chekanova
    Natasha Chekanova 23 January 2018 09: 38 New
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    Volckers and makeynes in the Donbass will definitely not die, and the maydaunas are not fools either, and they are kickers from around the corner.
  25. captain
    captain 23 January 2018 13: 05 New
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    Give the Russian land, along the Dnieper, and in the South along Odessa. And at least go to the USA with the rest.
  26. Valery Saitov
    Valery Saitov 24 January 2018 08: 48 New
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    ... relations with which the Armed Forces have long been hostile.)))
    There’s some kind of war in the war. It’s more like a war for power.
  27. iDOLLM4STER
    iDOLLM4STER 25 January 2018 01: 47 New
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    ... Nobody wanted to die, but the capital yards did not care. It is a pity for both Ukrainians and "Don". Okay, we’ll drop Vova and the bandits in Russia, but what will we do with the Americans?
    Maybe all the same ... "this"? Once and forever?
  28. M0xHaTka
    M0xHaTka 26 January 2018 00: 40 New
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    As an option - the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrenders to the dombas, after which the dombas replenished by staff officers takes Kiev.
    The result - a civil war on a larger scale and the introduction of peacekeepers