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The crews of An-26 work out bombing at the landfill in the Leningrad region

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The crews of the An-26 transport aircraft of the air regiment stationed in the Leningrad region are working on the bombing at the Kingisepp test site, reports RIA News message of the press service of the Western District.


The crews of An-26 work out bombing at the landfill in the Leningrad region


Crews of An-26 aircraft will carry out combat bombing on accuracy at targets imitating the military equipment of a conditional enemy in several ways (from cabrirovanie, diving). Practicing the tasks of practical bombing by the crews of the An-26 transport assault aircraft of the mixed air defense regiment ZVO will be held for several days during the day and at night,
says release.

It is reported that "the defeat of conditional targets in the dark is carried out from heights from 500 to 900 meters by practical P-50T air bombs." This is one of the most difficult combat training tasks in the training course for military transport crews. aviation.

The press service explained that if necessary, the combat use of An-26 can perform the tasks of a light bomber. For this purpose, “aircraft technicians attach special girder holders to the wing pylons of the aircraft and hang OFAB-100 or П-50Т bombs”, and an aiming device is installed in the An-26 cockpit.
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  1. Andrey K
    Andrey K 21 January 2018 17: 02
    11
    ... The crews of the transport aircraft An-26 of the aviation regiment deployed in the Leningrad Region are practicing bombing at the Kingisepp training ground ...

    Hana !!!
    Now the Baltic states will begin to dig in the forests, they will call for help to Nat and they will express their concerns about the aggression of Russialaughing
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 21 January 2018 17: 13
      +4
      The Baltic states already have MANPADS, one must think that soon the missile defense systems will appear.
      1. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 21 January 2018 17: 22
        +4
        The Baltic states do not need their own army and weapons. NATO should send them "guards from the achressor." The flowerbeds, and all kinds of nooks and crannies, have already been prepared to cope with various kinds of needs. Plumbers too.
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 21 January 2018 17: 22
        +3
        Quote: Andrey K
        Now the Baltic states will begin to dig in the forests, they will call for help to Nat and they will express their concerns about the aggression of Russia

        They also conduct training, so that everything is fair, 1: 1 and everyone is happy.
        TALLINN, January 18 - RIA News. US strategic bombers B-52 will take part in exercises in Estonia this week, during which bombs without explosives will be dropped at a military training ground, the Republic’s Defense Forces headquarters said.
        B-52 will practice training flights at a height of at least six kilometers, the weight of the dropped bombs is 226 kg.

        “Joint exercises with heavy bombers provide a good opportunity to work out massive air strikes against ground targets,” said the acting commander of the Estonian Air Force, Colonel Rijivo Valge.
        Air trainers from Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, as well as from NATO units located in the Baltic countries from Great Britain and Denmark, will supplement the General Headquarters.
        RIA News https://ria.ru/world/20180118/1512881541.html
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 21 January 2018 17: 29
          19
          It is reported that "the defeat of conventional targets in the dark is carried out from altitudes from 500 to 900 meters with practical bombs П-50Т". This is one of the most difficult combat training tasks in the course of training crews of military transport aviation.
          that is, in Syria from 5000 meters, and from 900 ... glorious preparation ... despite the fact that MANPADS are now spreading like cockroaches, what kind of madman from the "transport" will "bomb"? what
          1. 210ox
            210ox 21 January 2018 17: 39
            +9
            So I think. Pure suicide. Only for practice ..
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            It is reported that "the defeat of conventional targets in the dark is carried out from altitudes from 500 to 900 meters with practical bombs П-50Т". This is one of the most difficult combat training tasks in the course of training crews of military transport aviation.
            that is, in Syria from 5000 meters, and from 900 ... glorious preparation ... despite the fact that MANPADS are now spreading like cockroaches, what kind of madman from the "transport" will "bomb"? what
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 21 January 2018 17: 53
              +6
              Quote: 210ox
              So I think. Pure suicide. Only for practice ..


              It seems that testing of new bombing sights is being conducted. The transporter for this is the same (and speed, and height, and the calculation triangle, and rapid shooting).
            2. vladimirZ
              vladimirZ 22 January 2018 06: 25
              0
              So I think. Pure suicide. Only perhaps for practice .. - 210Q

              Yes, here I also think that something is going wrong now in the Russian Aerospace Forces, that even transport workers have begun to train bombing.
              One can see the catastrophic shortage of bombers in our VKS. And then, because recently the figure of a shortage of flight personnel of 1500 people was voiced, and aircraft can also be seen.
              And where did the full combat personnel of the aircraft come from after the "Serdyukov" reforms and the collapse of industry, including and defense.
              No wonder in his speech, Lieutenant General Sobolev V.I. spoke about our aviation, to put it mildly, ... insufficient.
              1. The brightest
                The brightest 22 January 2018 07: 57
                0
                Quote: vladimirZ
                that even transporters began to train bombing.

                Emnip always cooked. Another thing is that it is time to change programs taking into account realities and new experience.
                1. vladimirZ
                  vladimirZ 22 January 2018 08: 08
                  0
                  Emnip always cooked. Another thing is that it's time ... - Lightest

                  If desired, a computer can also, relatively speaking, "hammer in nails." But how appropriate is it?
                  I remember, according to the history of the Second World War, the Long-Range Bomber Aviation was similarly used for the unusual tasks of bombing bridges in the front line in the daytime, until it lost its main part. Then I.V. Stalin removed her from the command of the army commanders to his personal subordination, under the leadership of the future Chief Air Marshal A.E. Golovanov.
            3. Julio Jurenito
              Julio Jurenito 24 January 2018 13: 54
              0
              No, well, cho ... An-26 is a good platform for building on its basis a "ganship". You can’t trample against Nata, and chasing barmaleys through the mountains is quite suitable.
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 21 January 2018 17: 54
            +9
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            that is, in Syria from 5000 meters,

            there is war and real combat targets. bombers worked there, BTA exercises are here
            and here with 900 ... nice preparation.

            pay attention to it
            It is reported that "the defeat of conditional targets in the dark is carried out from heights from 500 to 900 meters by practical P-50T air bombs." This is one of the most difficult combat training tasks in the training course for military transport aviation crews.

            all exercises are practiced on exercises
            which madman from the "transport" will "bomb"? what
            Before WWII, the PO-2 was a training aircraft. during the war he became a light night bomber. how successfully it was applied I will not tell. and the Air Force command better know how to use one or another type of aircraft
          3. Bongo
            Bongo 22 January 2018 04: 50
            +3
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            despite the fact that MANPADS are now crawling away like cockroaches

            Andrei Yurevich, please remind me when was the last time an aerial target was hit from MANPADS at night? And what prevents to bomb from a height of inaccessible MANPADS?
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            What kind of madman with "transport" will "bomb"?

            There were a lot of such madmen, and sometimes they did it with high efficiency.
            Antonov Bombers (clickable) hi
          4. zyzx
            zyzx 22 January 2018 08: 07
            +1
            After the first week of a large-scale war, the bombers will end, we will bomb with AN2, and then the maize will pull up and T34 from the pedestals. (And this is not only about us.)
        2. PalBor
          PalBor 21 January 2018 17: 50
          +3
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Quote: Andrey K
          Now the Baltic states will begin to dig in the forests, they will call for help to Nat and they will express their concerns about the aggression of Russia

          They also conduct training, so that everything is fair, 1: 1 and everyone is happy.
          TALLINN, January 18 - RIA News. US strategic bombers B-52 will take part in exercises in Estonia this week, during which bombs without explosives will be dropped at a military training ground, the Republic’s Defense Forces headquarters said.
          B-52 will practice training flights at a height of at least six kilometers, the weight of the dropped bombs is 226 kg.

          “Joint exercises with heavy bombers provide a good opportunity to work out massive air strikes against ground targets,” said the acting commander of the Estonian Air Force, Colonel Rijivo Valge.
          Air trainers from Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, as well as from NATO units located in the Baltic countries from Great Britain and Denmark, will supplement the General Headquarters.
          RIA News https://ria.ru/world/20180118/1512881541.html

          What is theirs V-52 in comparison with our An-26. Ugh! lol
      3. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 21 January 2018 17: 33
        +3
        Quote: Vadim237
        we must think that soon the missile defense systems will appear.

        Lithuania acquires NASAMS (($ 128 million), supply of 2018-20.
      4. Andrey K
        Andrey K 21 January 2018 17: 34
        +9
        Quote: Vadim237
        ... The Baltic states already have MANPADS, one must think that soon the missile defense systems will appear ...

        In the Lithuanian army - 20 MANPADS RBS-70 and 18 memory.
        In the Latvian army - 20 MANPADS RBS-70, 8 "Stingers" and ZU-23-2.
        In the Estonian army - ZU-23-2, Swedish used 40-mm anti-aircraft guns, French Mistral MANPADS.
        Prior to the heap in 2003, the United States contractually delivered the FPS-117 three-coordinate radar station to Estonia.
        Do not underestimate this "power". “Finnish hot guys” can create problems with this technique.
      5. LSA57
        LSA57 21 January 2018 17: 45
        +5
        Quote: Vadim237
        The Baltic states already have MANPADS, one must think that soon the missile defense systems will appear.

        Yes, let them collect anything. anyway, nobody is going to attack them. and the fact that the collection is expensive for poor countries is their problem
      6. Observer2014
        Observer2014 21 January 2018 18: 00
        +7
        Vadim237
        The Baltic states already have MANPADS, one must think that soon the missile defense systems will appear.
        Bombing with the An 26 is being worked out in order for it to be. And certainly the An 26 is not a breakthrough plane and striking at air defense and headquarters, etc. Pilots must be able to bomb from transporters. Just in case. Suddenly it turns up what position to iron. An 26 more and takes off from the ground.
      7. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 21 January 2018 19: 25
        0
        Well, it means that on the map of the Baltic states at the General Staff they will draw a couple of targets for caliber-iskander and similar missiles :)
      8. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 21 January 2018 20: 44
        +1
        The main thing is that there are few sapper shovels.
      9. siberalt
        siberalt 21 January 2018 21: 11
        0
        In-in. Bombing from a height of 500 meters is most convenient for MANPADS.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 21 January 2018 21: 13
          +1
          At 500 meters - machine guns will get.
      10. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 22 January 2018 00: 30
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        The Baltic states already have MANPADS, one must think that soon the missile defense systems will appear.


        And the nuclear machine gun will also be soon ...
  2. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 21 January 2018 17: 12
    +7
    This is the "old man", did not expect.
    1. avt
      avt 21 January 2018 18: 16
      +7
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      This is the "old man", did not expect.

      More precisely, they simply did not know. On the An-12, they generally set the conveyor and he poured it off the assembly line
  3. Nemesis
    Nemesis 21 January 2018 17: 14
    +8
    What kind of news is this ?! Who are they going to bomb from these cornmen ?! An-26 can only be a kamikaze plane, but not a bomber!
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 21 January 2018 17: 36
      10
      belay
      I support. After the successes in Syria in bombing from a safe height, and even more so after the adoption of armaments and the supply of Hephaestus equipment, what they do is masturbation. No matter how difficult it may be - this is a dumb expenditure of the resource of an airplane and kerosene. fool They will NEVER need this skill. Do not know what to occupy pilots with - work off dumping loads in pallets good . I really do not want to see in place these Syrians who, with their hands, collected grain from the torn dumped bags, our people. negative Well, if God forbid, you have to "bomb" something with the An-26, then let ALL be delivered safe and sound.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 21 January 2018 17: 55
      +2
      Quote: Nemesis
      ! Who is going to bomb from these maize?

      corn-picker PO-2 terrified fascists !!!!!
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 21 January 2018 18: 13
        +5
        Now is not the time and even MANPADS will not leave any chance for a sufficiently large slow-moving aircraft at low altitudes
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 21 January 2018 18: 28
          +3
          Quote: Nemesis
          Now is not the time and even MANPADS will not leave any chance for a sufficiently large slow-moving aircraft at low altitudes

          do you think in the VKS headquarters are half-educated who don’t know all this ??? once they practice bombing, then that makes sense !!! doesn’t it come to mind that a BTA pilot can in case of emergency replace a bomber pilot as a navigator? it’s the navigator who makes the bombing
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 21 January 2018 18: 30
            +7
            Do you think that pros are sitting there ?! Judging by the fact that several Mi-8 and Su-24 were shot down in Syria, they were sent on a mission without covering fighters and attack Mi-24s, they do not shine with professionalism, and you can’t expect him from the heirs of Pasha Grachev ...
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 22 January 2018 10: 29
              +1
              Quote: Nemesis
              Judging by the fact that several Mi-8s were shot down in Syria

              so this is WAR and there are losses in war !!! There are no wars without losses !!!
              and Su-24, sent on a mission without cover

              shot down in Turkey, for vile. after \ this was a cover and more than one shot down plane.
        2. SHURUM -BURUM
          SHURUM -BURUM 21 January 2018 21: 44
          +4
          I am shocked by such news, who could strike such a head
        3. The brightest
          The brightest 22 January 2018 08: 04
          +1
          Quote: Nemesis
          Now is not the time and even MANPADS will not leave any chance for a sufficiently large slow-moving aircraft at low altitudes

          MANPADS experts will not let me lie, but for them piston engines are not an easy task to capture. Therefore, just PO-2 even today can climb and make raids as in the Patriotic War.
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 22 January 2018 08: 54
            +1
            Watch a video in which a Ukrainian intelligence officer based on the An-24 was shot down from the MANPADS in the Donbass, and it’s getting into the engine ... Specialists who are not important among your friends, if they say something like that ... MANPADS are primarily weapons against low-flying targets and first of all against helicopters ... Reciprocating engines on planes and helicopters, let it be known to you, have not been used for a long time. Turboprops ... or jet are used. Reactive are divided into two subspecies, depending on the type of turbine.
            1. The brightest
              The brightest 29 January 2018 16: 42
              0
              Quote: Nemesis
              Watch a video in which a Ukrainian intelligence officer based on the An-24 was shot down from the MANPADS in the Donbass, and it’s getting into the engine ... Specialists who are not important among your friends, if they say something like that ... MANPADS are primarily weapons against low-flying targets and first of all against helicopters ... Reciprocating engines on planes and helicopters, let it be known to you, have not been used for a long time. Turboprops ... or jet are used. Reactive are divided into two subspecies, depending on the type of turbine.
              It was about a maize, and on it just piston engines, do not bother.
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 29 January 2018 16: 55
                0
                It was about the fact that the An-26 was not a combat aircraft, but (a corn carrier), as a useless bomber, from the word, AT ALL.
      2. verner1967
        verner1967 22 January 2018 09: 23
        +2
        Quote: LSA57
        corn-picker PO-2 terrified fascists !!!!!

        Is that a joke you have? I hope
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 22 January 2018 10: 31
          +1
          Quote: verner1967
          Is that a joke you have?

          no, they laughed when they called our pilots "Night Witches"
      3. Petr1968
        Petr1968 22 January 2018 14: 42
        +1
        Quote: LSA57
        corn-picker PO-2 terrified fascists !!!!!

        Who are we terrified at this time?)))
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 22 January 2018 20: 30
          +1
          Quote: Petr1968
          Who are we terrified at this time?)))

          these are just teachings. you yourself are not funny, a person who saw a combat aircraft only in the air at an altitude of several kilometers, who does not have a flight education, criticize the tasks of training pilots? The trouble is when the boots are whetted by the pastry chef, and the shoemaker is baking pasties. Well, do not meddle in topics in which you don’t have a face
          1. Petr1968
            Petr1968 23 January 2018 09: 54
            0
            Quote: LSA57
            to a person who saw a combat plane only in the air at an altitude of several kilometers,

            I’ve seen closer, father is a flight technician) But I asked something different, you write that PO-2 terrified the Nazis .. And who are these planes terrified of? In the United States or whom do you mean .. it’s kind of a simple question, but you got hooked like a porcupine))
    3. not main
      not main 21 January 2018 21: 27
      +1
      Quote: Nemesis
      What kind of news is this ?! Who are they going to bomb from these cornmen ?! An-26 can only be a kamikaze plane, but not a bomber!

      Airplane yes! The crew is not! In a conflict, retraining a crew for a bomber is an order of magnitude easier if he (the crew) has bombing skills!
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 22 January 2018 08: 55
        0
        What skills ?! From the An-26, you can, in fact, only by eye. There are no special sights, such as are equipped with for example the Su-34 ...
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 22 January 2018 10: 32
          +1
          Quote: Nemesis
          There are no special sights, such as are equipped with for example the Su-34 ...

          the device is difficult to install ??? belay
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 22 January 2018 17: 46
            0
            The device is not so easy to install, it needs at least a place for it, and the layout of the aircraft is quite tight and if this device was not installed initially, then this is a problem ... But the main problem is that the sights from the Su-34 to An -26 are not installed properly, and the crew will not learn how to use them on such a mountain of training flights, which means these flights are stupid, a waste of fuel and motor resources of aircraft ... Do not write nonsense, no one sets mines from planes, except (butterflies), but they are also installed from combat aircraft, and not from such corn mailers ...
    4. LSA57
      LSA57 22 January 2018 13: 20
      +1
      Quote: Nemesis
      Who are they going to bomb from these cornmen ?!

      must bomb? Bombs are different. for example with mines. and who will stop him from putting a minefield in a potentially dangerous area? where there are no enemies.
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 21 January 2018 17: 17
    +4
    For this, “aircraft technicians attach special beam holders to the wing pylons of the aircraft and hang OFAB-100 or P-50T bombs”, and an aiming device is installed in the An-26 cockpit.

    On the An-26, beam (DB) are mounted on the body, if the memory serves me right
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 21 January 2018 17: 26
      +3
      For cargo or something else heavy, understandable! But the bombs, on the pylons! And naf ?????
  5. iaroslav.mudryi
    iaroslav.mudryi 21 January 2018 17: 26
    +5
    The news surprised, but as it turned out, this is not news for a long time. An interesting article on the same resource from 15 March 2016 year:
    https://topwar.ru/92231-bombardirovschiki-antonov
    a.html
  6. midshipman
    midshipman 21 January 2018 17: 27
    +5
    What is there nothing to do? Bombing with the An-26. There are attack aircraft. We trained stormtrooper crews at a training ground in Latvia and Lithuania. There are no problems, the accuracy of hitting targets is 20 meters (from a height of 5000 m). Read "Entered to Improve the Accuracy of Rocket Bomb Attacks." I have the honor.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 21 January 2018 18: 00
      +5
      [quote = midshipman] What is there nothing to do? Bombing with the An-26. [/ quote]
      [quote] It is reported that "the defeat of conditional targets in the dark is carried out from heights from 500 to 900 meters by practical P-50T air bombs." This is one of the most difficult combat training tasks in the course of training crews of military transport aircraft. [/ Quote]
      maybe all the same, the command of the Russian Aerospace Forces knows better what and how to train aircraft crews? and the designers knowingly provided suspensions for bombs
  7. san4es
    san4es 21 January 2018 17: 35
    +2
    Crews of transport aircraft An-26 of the aviation regiment deployed in the Leningrad Region, practice bombing

    October 2015 soldier
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 January 2018 17: 40
      +3
      Quote: san4es
      October 2015

      About that, "open secret". In the USSR, all equipment had the option of military use. And everything was already in advance, even at the initial design stage it was calculated.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 21 January 2018 19: 44
        +3
        Could the same thing be put on Zaporozhets KPVT?
        1. faiver
          faiver 22 January 2018 06: 02
          +2
          Zaporozhets is a supply machine, therefore, only PCT laughing
  8. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 21 January 2018 17: 37
    +4
    What is it? lack of technology? When is a semi-passenger airplane used as a bomber?
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 January 2018 18: 06
      +4
      Quote: NOC-VVS
      What is it? lack of technology? When is a semi-passenger airplane used as a bomber?

      This is when - Everything for the front! All for Victory. At the time of the landing - another bomb on the head of the enemy.
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 22 January 2018 14: 44
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        This is when - Everything for the front! All for Victory. At the time of the landing - another bomb on the head of the enemy.

        Someone outplayed in computer games?))
        1. svp67
          svp67 22 January 2018 15: 14
          0
          Quote: Petr1968
          Someone outplayed in computer games?))

          Yes, judging by your comment, you need to finish these games, they do not finish well ...
  9. svp67
    svp67 21 January 2018 17: 38
    0
    Interestingly, will the IL-112 also have the possibility of bombing? And why, until now, we have not done on the basis of the "transporter" - "ganship"? In those armed conflicts that present-day Russia is involved, he would definitely come in handy.
  10. Herculesic
    Herculesic 21 January 2018 17: 49
    +5
    I suggest that Tu 154 be converted into bombers, or even booked, changed engines, considered stormtroopers! We’ve got it, soon we’ll really start massively building Po2 for the army! fool
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 January 2018 18: 10
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      I propose to convert Tu 154 into bombers

      And at least pick up a flying squadron?
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 21 January 2018 18: 15
        +5
        If you don’t repair anything and build almost nothing, then you will soon have to dream of a mortar, with Baba Yaga ...
    2. Berkut154
      Berkut154 21 January 2018 21: 11
      +5
      If you are not aware of the Tu-154 and 134, the option of re-equipment for these purposes was provided.
  11. intuzazist
    intuzazist 21 January 2018 17: 56
    +7
    Nonsense!!! To throw bombs from the transporter! ??? You can also throw grenades with An-2 ....................................
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 January 2018 18: 14
      +8
      Quote: intuzazist
      Nonsense!!! To throw bombs from the transporter! ???

      And what is nonsense? What could he not do? And why do you think that this is not useful in war?
      Quote: intuzazist
      You can also throw grenades with An-2 ....................................

      Can. But on it and more powerful weapons can be put
      1. TsUS-Air Force
        TsUS-Air Force 21 January 2018 21: 16
        +1
        and poop poop on the head of the vroga is considered to be bombed?
        1. svp67
          svp67 21 January 2018 21: 24
          +3
          Quote: NOC-VVS
          and poop poop on the head of the vroga is considered to be bombed?

          Judging by your "nickname" - you know better ...
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 21 January 2018 18: 34
      +5
      Quote: intuzazist
      Nonsense!!! From the transporter to throw bombs!

      indeed, there are a lot of dropouts and stupid people. and designers who provided for the suspension of air bombs. and VKS headquarters that conduct such exercises. or maybe you think that just like that no one will conduct such exercises? VKS command has already shown its professionalism in Syria. and then suddenly hit insanity ?????
    3. corporal
      corporal 21 January 2018 19: 02
      +5
      Quote: intuzazist
      To throw bombs from the transporter! ???

      There is a link above
      Quote: iaroslav.mudryi
      https://topwar.ru/92231-bombardirovschiki-antonov
      a.html

      Quote: avt
      On the An-12, they generally set the conveyor and he poured it off the assembly line

  12. tasha
    tasha 21 January 2018 18: 04
    +1
    Yeah ... No, well, skills should be ..
    I am convinced that Russia needs a strike aircraft - an analogue of the American AC-130 Specter. And to help in special operations against all kinds of formations. And, if necessary, which patrol around the air base. Anything is better than sending BTA planes to someone else's fires, for example ...

    I also came up with - I need some water bombs to put out the fires and train :)
  13. sabakina
    sabakina 21 January 2018 18: 38
    +4
    Guys, anyway, but we have to do PO-2. other, I think, DO NOT EXPLAIN.
    1. tracer
      tracer 21 January 2018 19: 23
      0
      "For nefig"?
  14. HEATHER
    HEATHER 21 January 2018 18: 50
    +1
    Great car. But his time is gone. About PO-2, I said a month ago. But he is not a panacea. And the rumble of engines is a song! But there is a newer one.
  15. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 21 January 2018 19: 09
    0
    An-26 is already a legacy of history and the past of the Air Force. Either we don’t know something, or .....? Although, just would not.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 21 January 2018 19: 46
      +2
      It’s just that they don’t see anything worthwhile to do - that’s what they do with bombing from a transporter.
  16. tracer
    tracer 21 January 2018 19: 22
    +2
    Of course, I am not a strategist, but a former sergeant as a squad leader, but somehow I can hardly imagine the scope of such bombers. He has flight altitudes for man-portable air defense systems available in any range. No maneuverability, but with a bomb load in general nikakayuschaya ... why would he be a bomber? This is a deep rear car "heavenly low-speed" ..
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 21 January 2018 20: 56
      +1
      Quote: tracer
      Of course, I am not a strategist, but a former sergeant as a squad leader, but somehow I can hardly imagine the scope of such bombers. He has flight altitudes for man-portable air defense systems available in any range. No maneuverability, but with a bomb load in general nikakayuschaya ... why would he be a bomber? This is a deep rear car "heavenly low-speed" ..

      And what, this pepilats armored personnel carrier or tank from a bullet belay will not get it?
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 21 January 2018 21: 18
      +1
      This rear machine, according to bombardment, at least on barmaley, will be deeply planted from MANPADS or ZUSHek if it goes on like that.
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 21 January 2018 23: 21
        +2
        Try it if it comes to you at an inopportune hour at 5000m from the clouds. and the bombs will be real.)))
        When the cartridges run out in the PM, then run them to the end in AN 26. You will definitely get it. In war, anything happens)))
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 22 January 2018 00: 00
          0
          For mobile units with MANPADS, it’s an empty idea to send a transport carrier — a bomber — it will not hit anyone, and it will most likely be dumped. They were shot down in Afghanistan, but in Ukraine they shot down in 2014.
          1. shura7782
            shura7782 22 January 2018 09: 50
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            [quote = Vadim237. [/ quote]
            deeply planted from MANPADS or ZUSHek if sent to such
            .Naturally, I supported this joke without a joke.))) I wanted to say that under the air defense conditions you have stated, the chances of shooting down AN 26 are void.
            Next, about the Afghan.
            Indeed, these deplorable facts took place, but only in the area of ​​the airdrome. The moment of take-off and approach. The height is very small. Suitable range for starting the stinger. There is a chance that the arrow will not be found. Therefore, the most suitable moment to start is (before sunset) twilight. In the location of our squadron in Bagram lay the remains of one of the An 26 ..
            My friend (commander of AN 26) said that after landing at dusk in Kandahar he was informed that he had observed two launches from the greenhouse on his plane. We didn’t hit, apparently there were such “arrows”. T, E, the degree of training of shooters should be quite high. There have been many such cases in 10 years.
            An example from Ukraine does not fit our case because this is not MANPADS or ZUSHKA, but a serious contraption which can be shot down at much higher altitudes, not only AN 26 with a Boeing ..
            Therefore, it is necessary to consider each individual case and conditions separately.)))
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 22 January 2018 10: 37
            +1
            Quote: Vadim237
            For mobile units with MANPADS - an empty idea to send a transport

            but why did you get the idea that he will hunt for mobile units? belay
            Well, where did you get the idea that we have dumbasses in the VKS who don’t understand which airplane to use and where? why invent fables
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 22 January 2018 21: 06
              0
              Then why is it practicing bombing - certainly not against the regular army.
              1. shura7782
                shura7782 23 January 2018 15: 05
                0
                So that the navigator does not lose his skills and the armament group has trained.
  17. groks
    groks 21 January 2018 19: 29
    +1
    Well, why would you need this? After all, even with a heavy machine gun on the ground, the khan’s transporter.
    It is already clear that our government is very afraid of us and is actively preparing to suppress possible unrest. But so in such a perverted way ....
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 22 January 2018 10: 42
      +1
      Quote: groks
      After all, even with a heavy machine gun on the ground, the khan’s transporter.

      night. with a height of 5000m, the AN-26 drops bombs from the clouds. the calculation has time to wake up, charge, aim and give a turn?
      It’s already clear that our government is very afraid of us

      already pisses with boiling water from fear laughing dreaming laughing March 18 will show
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 22 January 2018 13: 09
        +1
        You do not overdo it, it doesn’t happen "suddenly, at night, because of the clouds negative . And it happens only - War, Military conflict. At the same time, the incoming condition for using the An-26 in such a plan requires at least several conditions — the complete absence of air defense from the enemy, any reasons why our side is completely unable to use all other types of aircraft capable of bombing. fool Only if all of the above conditions are met, is such an option possible, for me - my imagination did not have enough to predict this. Can you “show off the talent of a storyteller” and be able to describe such a situation? tongue
  18. Bort radist
    Bort radist 21 January 2018 19: 43
    +4
    If there is weapons, then it must be able to use. In the 70s of the last century, bombing with the AN-12 was not uncommon. There are different bombs, lighting, signal, all that can be reset can not be listed.
    "... Bomber weapons [An-12] include:
    2 photographic bombs FOTAB-100-80 or 2 night reference and signal bombs NOSAB-100 or 2 day reference and signal bombs DOSAB-100 for dropping from beam holders;
    6 color target-signal aerial bombs TsOSAB-10 or 6 night reference-naval aerial bombs OMAB-25-8N or 6 daytime reference-naval aerial bombs ОМАБ-25-12Д or 6 radio probes for dropping from a box holder ДЯ-SS-АТ;
    70 bombs of 100 kg caliber (OFAB, ZAB) or 29-32 bombs of 250 kg caliber (OFAB, ZAB, PTAB, RBC) or 18-22 bombs of 500 kg caliber (FAB, ZAB, FZAB, RBC) or 18 UDM-500 aircraft for dropping from the conveyor TG-12MB.
    For targeted bombing and dropping airborne loads in the cockpit’s cabin, the NKPB-7 sight was installed. Two external beam bomb racks are located in front of the fairings of the chassis and two in the rear inside. The DYA-SS-AT box holder for the vertical suspension of 6 bombs is located in the rear of the fuselage between the sp. No. 62 and sp. No. 64 ... "
    Transport aviation in its application is unpredictable. soldier
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 21 January 2018 21: 19
      0
      It was almost 50 years ago.
    2. Turkestan
      Turkestan 21 January 2018 23: 11
      +2
      Allaverds. An AN-12BK aircraft with installed TG-12MV conveyors, when bombing with a SERIES in 15 seconds, plowed a 2 km section.
      On the IL-76 were installed 4 beams for suspension 4x 500 kg. bombs
  19. shura7782
    shura7782 21 January 2018 19: 51
    +5
    It is strange that this is news. In the BTA Combat Training Course, there is a bombing exercise and this has been done for a long time since time immemorial of the USSR. On civilian aircraft, such an opportunity was provided if necessary. I recently watched how the AN-124 was bombed. If anyone did not know, aviation can produce mining.
    1. NN52
      NN52 21 January 2018 20: 04
      +9
      This is apparently not the case ...
      Until recently, in order to pass a fighter pilot to 1st class, it was necessary to throw a bomb,
      for passing to class ...
      Cey seems to be)))) enough tolerance ..
      Like BTA, I don’t know now ....
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 21 January 2018 20: 22
        +3
        BTA, AA, IB, RA, PA, ARVSN, etc. Everyone has their own combat training course with their own characteristics and type of aircraft. I don’t know now. I look at the young people coming from the flights, I’m turning my neck. Enviously!)))
        1. NN52
          NN52 21 January 2018 20: 26
          10
          I am slightly younger than you ...
          1. shura7782
            shura7782 21 January 2018 20: 50
            0
            Then, you did not get the best service times. I thought that in the nineties in aviation, time stopped. Now they work constantly. I don’t know which song. If 170-200 hours in IA, IB, RA then it’s very good.
            1. NN52
              NN52 21 January 2018 20: 57
              10
              Not the best, but bearable ... flew ...
              Now in IA 80-150, but not all ...
              Those who are now in the "sandbox on the beach" are 90 to 118 hours in two months.
              1. shura7782
                shura7782 21 January 2018 21: 33
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                Apparently there are 3-5 sorties per shift in two months, you can pick up such a raid. For those places this is normal. .
                Homes usually have 3-4 shifts per week. Our commander sometimes arranged additionally personal flights for the young for the class on Saturdays. Brought them in three years to grade 1. Of course, this is the greatest golop of 82-85, but it was once in my memory.
  20. Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 21 January 2018 20: 30
    +1
    Quote: Corporal
    Today, 19: 02 ↑ New
    Quote: intuzazist
    To throw bombs from the transporter! ???

    On the An-12, they generally set the conveyor and he poured it off the assembly line
    So am I about that. Many times a passenger in the cargo compartment of the AN-26 (cargo analogue of the passenger AN-24) ... had to fly, place the sea, put the transporter and dump bombs, mines, etc. And here are special holders ... suspension ... Something the author of the wrong one, I did not see the plane.
    I can’t say anything about the possibility of being used as a bomber.
  21. Berkut154
    Berkut154 21 January 2018 21: 08
    +1
    Levashovtsy are the best !!! They can do any task !!!
  22. kind
    kind 21 January 2018 21: 24
    0
    Wow, AN-26, the same AN-24, only with a ramp in the rear! Is he also a bomber ?!
  23. faterdom
    faterdom 21 January 2018 21: 25
    +1
    Quote: tracer
    Of course, I am not a strategist, but a former sergeant as a squad leader, but somehow I can hardly imagine the scope of such bombers. He has flight altitudes for man-portable air defense systems available in any range. No maneuverability, but with a bomb load in general nikakayuschaya ... why would he be a bomber? This is a deep rear car "heavenly low-speed" ..

    But you need to be able to drop precisely not only bombs. Like that airfield near DeZ in Syria, it lasted for several years on such presents from heaven.
    Well, with IL-76, you can generally throw off something of such a size and type that the enemy on earth will simply die from a heart attack.
    1. tracer
      tracer 21 January 2018 22: 11
      +1
      That's what “something” we were at one time)))))
  24. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 21 January 2018 21: 36
    +2
    Well, what so many empty chimes are here ???
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 21 January 2018 21: 52
      +3
      This is a property of the Internet, where every hairdresser tries to give meaning to himself.
  25. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 21 January 2018 21: 48
    +4
    If my sclerosis doesn’t fail me (15 years passed as the last time on the An-26 I did the schedule), then the beam holders (2 pcs) on this plane are mounted not on the wing, but on the fuselage, in the area of ​​the center frame power frames, at the level of the cargo compartment floor . And it’s more convenient to raise bombs to the level of the belt than to climb to the top of a ladder with these “toys”. Or in 15 years the bombs themselves learned to rise to the height of the 2nd floor?
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 21 January 2018 21: 56
      0
      On An-26, yes.



      But how on IL-76?
      1. tracer
        tracer 21 January 2018 22: 13
        0
        Well, just "BONBA" !!!)))
      2. Turkestan
        Turkestan 21 January 2018 23: 17
        0
        On the IL-76, it is attached to the aircraft with winches in the kit, but like another 250 kg, a 500 kg bomb in the Manual is not for you PRACTICE
  26. Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich
    Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich 21 January 2018 23: 45
    0
    "The An-26 aircraft crews will carry out combat bombing for accuracy on targets that simulate the military equipment of a conventional enemy in several ways (from cabling, diving). The practical tasks of bombing the crews of the An-26 airborne assault landing forces of the mixed air transport regiment ZVO will take place over several days during the day and night "
    Something I do not quite understand. What a dive-cabrio on a machine not designed for any kind of overload. He will fall to hell when he leaves the corner. And if you pull out slowly, then they will shoot at him almost from pistols! And BZT from AK47 will punch it like a hole punch paper. Especially. that it’s not possible to get into such a “bast” for 800 meters, given its limitations in horizontal maneuver and speed.
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 21 January 2018 23: 55
      +2
      Diving is gentle, steep, sheer.
  27. Lexus
    Lexus 22 January 2018 01: 04
    +2
    Combat training - this is what combat training is for. Although the skills of bombing from transport aircraft are of dubious value. If only then use the experience gained for mine production.
  28. faiver
    faiver 22 January 2018 06: 13
    +1
    Well, they shouted, there is bombing in the training program, so let them work it out, and whoever doesn’t like to carry luminosity, they will carry iron laughing
  29. kaschey
    kaschey 22 January 2018 09: 15
    0
    "The crews of the An-26 transport aircraft of the air regiment stationed in the Leningrad Region are practicing bombing at the Kingisepp training ground, the Western District press service reports to RIA Novosti."
    And why not the AN-124, the cooler the B-52 will be.
  30. Shuttle
    Shuttle 22 January 2018 13: 11
    0
    An-26 Bomber Jacket !!
    I knew about shooting knives, paddles and flashlights. But this is just a thing! Is this the sighting equipment that was being used to drive rulers in Syria?
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 22 January 2018 20: 52
      0
      Quote: Shuttle
      An-26 Bomber Jacket !!
      I knew about shooting knives, paddles and flashlights. But this is just a thing! Is this the sighting equipment that was being used to drive rulers in Syria?


      And what is wrong? Mi-8, for example, can also drop bombs.
  31. iouris
    iouris 22 January 2018 13: 15
    0
    And there is also the An-2. By the way, were you in the training ground?
  32. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 25 January 2018 03: 40
    +1
    For the Airborne Forces, such a "test" bombing must be able to do - they correctly teach transporters on the An-26. And even on the enemy’s cut-off submarines under the ice, such bombing is quite applicable. On the enemy in the depths of the dense forest, too, from there you don’t really stinger through the branches. And in peacetime, it is necessary to be able to work on ice jams with bombs. And here the retired generals are doing a whole hi! PR?