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New MiG-31BM dispersed to 3400 km / h

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Work on the development of the concept of upgrading high-altitude interceptors MiG-31 to the version of "BM" began in 1997 year. And if the first modifications were long-range fighter-interceptors, then the new version was to become a multi-purpose, capable of hitting air, ground and surface targets.


On the plane, the complex of on-board radio-electronic equipment, navigation and aiming has been completely updated, in connection with which the combat effectiveness of the updated MiG-31 has increased almost three times. The new on-board radar Zaslon-AM is capable of detecting targets at a distance of 320 km, and its destruction has become possible at a distance of 280 km.

Thanks to the new avionics, the MiG-31BM is able to more effectively interact with ground-based air defense. Moreover, now the multifunctional high-altitude interceptor was able to direct missiles launched from the board of other fighters onto air targets.

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  1. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 21 January 2018 10: 49
    +6
    Finally, they found a solution for glazing the cabin. But I haven’t seen any solutions yet about the chassis? The fact that I’m building the fastest plane again, I’m glad. But it’s time for it to rest. Like no other decade in operation. MIG-35 at least and partially replaces its achievements, and in flight range, and fuel consumption exceeds, but we need a fundamentally new aircraft, with the same breakthrough achievements.
    1. NN52
      NN52 21 January 2018 10: 56
      15
      Glazing for a long time ...
      What's wrong with the chassis?
      1. Alexandras
        Alexandras 21 January 2018 23: 08
        +2
        He had problems with the chassis - the axle shaft could not withstand the load, but then changed to a modified one and all the rules!
    2. figwam
      figwam 21 January 2018 11: 16
      49
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Finally, they found a solution for glazing the cabin. But I haven’t seen any solutions yet about the chassis? The fact that I’m building the fastest plane again, I’m glad. But it’s time for it to rest. Like no other decade in operation. MIG-35 at least and partially replaces its achievements, and in flight range, and fuel consumption exceeds, but we need a fundamentally new aircraft, with the same breakthrough achievements.

      What a MIG-35 that you carry !!! Airplanes of different classes, different tasks. MIG-31 replacements do not exist yet, it is a pure interceptor with characteristics that no aircraft in the world have.
      1. SOF
        SOF 21 January 2018 11: 38
        30
        ... here, here ... The first in the history of the world aircraft industry serial making three mach and feeling fine under the black dome of space. A unique car, as well as its 25th folder, Foxbat ...
        1. Ilya_Nsk
          Ilya_Nsk 22 January 2018 08: 15
          +1
          and SR-71 is not the first, or not serial? Mig-25 was the answer to this, in my opinion ..
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 11: 16
            10
            Quote: Ilya_Nsk
            and SR-71 is not the first, or not serial? Mig-25 was the answer to this, in my opinion ..

            As they say we in aviation: learn materiel. Cars of different classes and different goals No.
          2. Rzzz
            Rzzz 5 December 2018 23: 48
            0
            SR71 - not combat.
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 22 January 2018 02: 23
        28
        Sorry, but the phrase "there is no replacement" sounds like something mm "strange" against the background of the words "the plane has only just reached what it took during design" fool . You compare these two phrases once again - All these years, being not only unique, but also unattainable for anyone, “31” was not able to fly wave force belay
        No, you need to feel it - NOBODY in the world can resist this aircraft !! Remember the squeals and the "moistening of the ceiling of urino" by Americans from .. our 5th generation aircraft will be able to give out data to other aircraft and direct the attack, we implemented the idea long arm", but here is the" old man "who can do all of the above. good And what is much worse for the Americans is the “in itself” complex, it “sees” and “prompts” others and also how it “heals life”, but you’ll catch it. Literally, with the ammunition consumption, the "31" will simply go to its airfield.
        If anyone has an objection “but the Americans have invisible planes,” then let him keep his nonsense to himself and not be dishonored. There are no invisible aircraft for the Mig-31 as well. Unlike our aircraft, mattresses do not have an optical target search. And here you don’t have to dare to stutter, “AWAX will highlight everything for them”, it’s for “31” that “Avax” is the most desired and tasty goal - a big slow, slow carcass, neither run away nor maneuver negative . At the same time, “31” can both catch up with it and “shoot it off”, and fire at long-range missiles, and then the matars had all the hopes for electronic warfare systems, which effectiveness against our missiles, which so far has not been possible to deny or refute tongue repeat . Therefore, all sorts of Fu-22 and 35 can only pray for "not meeting" with the MiG-31.
        You know, there is one funny analog

        as it was said there, “Leonopteryx is not afraid of anyone, therefore, does not look up,” and here the MiG-31 is not afraid of anyone, it flies above all and faster and its missiles are “longer and thicker” repeat lol
        1. Romulus
          Romulus 22 January 2018 02: 36
          +1
          Quote: Mih1974

          0
          Mi1974 Today, 02:23 ↑ New
          Sorry, but the phrase "there is no replacement" sounds like something mm is "strange" against the background of the words "the plane has just now reached what was creeping into it when designing" fool

          (NATO codification: Foxhound - foxhound) - double supersonic all-weather long-range fighter-interceptor. Designed by OKB-155 (now PJSC “RSK MiG”) in the 1970s. The first Soviet combat aircraft of the fourth generation [2].
          Patriotically and somewhat agree with you .. I saw them live on the Petrel (Kuril Islands) but I do not believe that ours invented the "death star" back in the 70s. hi
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 22 January 2018 03: 00
            15
            Well, this is not exactly a "death star", that sense was in enormous proportions (a lot of which was carried, including as an aircraft carrier), but in prohibitively powerful weapons. The MiG-31 does not have such power, it simply doesn’t clumsy for a modern fighter, just considering it a disadvantage, the mattresses were blundered, for all these years they could not or did not want to recognize the correctness of the MiG-31 concept. Yes, in case of war, the "clouds" of fighters on both sides of the "31" have nothing to do in it (in the dog dump), but for this we have the Mig-29 and the dry ones that are just in the "dump" are superior to the mattress. But Merikas’s a huge problem on a just distributed system, on “Avaxs” and deck-based AWACS, but they don’t have many of these soups and just destroying them is one of the priority goals for “31. Actually, after that, mattresses can“ throw a white flag ”.
            Here, not only strange "teachings" against the Indians are indicative, in which, according to rumors, the Indians tear them with terrible force in any scenario. And this is even taking into account that the Hindu Dryers should be weaker than ours as "export". But the big wars that the Americans got into - Korea and Vietnam are especially good. As soon as the mattresses take away global superiority in aviation and "lower them to the ground" - they are not all warriors.
            But what makes me especially happy is when 90 mattresses “defeated” us, as they thought and “allowed” our dryers to fly to the USA for “joint exercises” - that’s where our guys ripped them off in full.

            This is an unbiased opinion (this is the time when they considered us defeated and were not afraid to admit their weakness). good
            Especially look at the words of the American pilot hi good
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 22 January 2018 03: 17
              +3
              The key in the given video is not so much even the characteristics and capabilities, all the same it is not about the Mig-31, namely - SHOCK belay struck the best and highly trained foreigners. good
              This is our key difference from them. Mattresses and the West in general - focuses on machinery, equipment, while in Russia it seems that it’s not the design bureaus that are creating, but the “wizards” in the dark caves are “witching” all sorts of clowning swords (by the way, I just thought - what is this sword and where does it put? lol ) That then, even test pilots for years have been looking for the limits of the capabilities of the aircraft. I won’t believe that such figures as “cobra”, “bell” and “Chakra Frolova” were provided for in the design bureau. By the way, I’m just blowing away the roof from the latter, it's some kind of transcendent witchcraft belay good
              1. Seryoga Gord
                Seryoga Gord 22 January 2018 03: 59
                +1
                Especially take a look at the words ... the magnificent philological pearl about the video, sir, was amused, but about ... all sorts of clowning swords ... so this is from the history of their manufacture in Russia - after they were forged they were put in the oven for a while Now metallurgists call this process cementation, the sword gained strength, etc., characteristic of metal ed with this treatment ...))
            2. Romulus
              Romulus 22 January 2018 03: 37
              +2
              Quote: Mih1974
              But what makes me especially happy is when 90 mattresses “defeated” us, as they thought and “allowed” our dryers to fly to the USA for “joint exercises” - that’s where our guys ripped them off in full.

              I agree, only one thing is bad in this story - from the notorious 90s, our aviation did not develop qualitatively .. from the word at all, rename the peak of development to aerospace forces) they still laugh at NATO)
              1. Mih1974
                Mih1974 22 January 2018 03: 46
                10
                I don’t know whether NATO laughs at the air forces, but in fact in Syria our aviation trampled them into the corrugation. And the super-invisible Fu-22 could only be "familial" to attack aircraft of its class, but when the Su-35 appeared, it fell into the fog tongue good
                I can only assume that the Americans are not at all funny - when I fly brazenly in the sky of Syria they are irradiated with S-400 guidance radars or our fighters. bully
                And "it’s not developed qualitatively," I advise you to see HOW the Su-27 and especially the Su-35 fly belay good . This is a real UFO and, as in the videos shown, the sane pilots seeing SUCH - try it on themselves and really pray for the "far hand". Not in this video, but in another, there were the words of the American chief of the air base who, in his last words, blamed his pilots and "succumbing to the Russians" and miserable excuses (all this is broadcast over the airfield) that "I say I do ALL that is possible, but the Russian plane is better." good
                1. Victor_B
                  Victor_B 22 January 2018 06: 43
                  +3
                  Dear!
                  I don’t know whether NATO laughs at the air forces, but in fact in Syria our aviation trampled them into the corrugation. And the super-invisible Fu-22 could only be "familial" to attack aircraft of its class, but when the Su-35 appeared, it fell into the fog
                  Have you ever come across information that the Americans “sacredly” protect their innocence, or rather the secrets of their stealth, and therefore fly with special “deteriorators” of it, so that no one would know the true state of this notorious stealth?
                  And so - yes, we have many hats. Throw it!
                  1. Yuyuka
                    Yuyuka 22 January 2018 09: 16
                    +8
                    Have you ever come across information that the Americans “sacredly” protect their innocence, or rather the secrets of their stealth, and therefore fly with special “deteriorators” of it, so that no one would know the true state of this notorious stealth?

                    Is this a hint of a Yugoslav case? repeat if so, then yes, cool "worseners!" I would even add - "snipers" wassat
                    1. Victor_B
                      Victor_B 22 January 2018 10: 21
                      +2
                      I don’t know whether NATO laughs at the air forces, but in fact in Syria our aviation trampled them into the corrugation. And the super-invisible Fu-22 could only be "familial" to attack aircraft of its class, but when the Su-35 appeared, it fell into the fog
                      Lucky boy!
                      Teach materiel!
                      Our "probable friends" have erased the proprietary language that special lenses (named after some Jew) are installed on their F-22 and F-35 designed to INCREASE the EPR of the aircraft.
                      Type such an invisibility flies to his native airfield - once, and they put this lens to death (because the dispatcher does not see him on the radar).
                      But actually they are "turned on" constantly, so that the enemy does not know the real EPR of the fighter.
                      However, secrecy.
                      Yes! And on the F-117 were also such. Only, looser, over Yugoslavia did they fly in stealth mode, so that they shot him down in a fair battle.
                      1. Pete mitchell
                        Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 11: 24
                        +5
                        Quote: Victor_B
                        ..on the F-117 were also like that. Only, looser, over Yugoslavia did they fly in stealth mode, so that they shot him down in a fair battle.

                        They shot him down because of impassable American narcissism, no one flies to the target along one route for how many days in a row, and French optics in the Soviet air defense system, which is not new at all.
                        Then the Americans once again checked their exclusivity, but the Serbs did not care
                      2. Skifotavr
                        Skifotavr 22 January 2018 14: 00
                        +2
                        Quote: Victor_B
                        Lucky boy!
                        Teach materiel!
                        Our "probable friends" have erased the proprietary language that special lenses (named after some Jew) are installed on their F-22 and F-35 designed to INCREASE the EPR of the aircraft.
                        Type such an invisibility flies to his native airfield - once, and they put this lens to death (because the dispatcher does not see him on the radar).
                        But actually they are "turned on" constantly, so that the enemy does not know the real EPR of the fighter.
                        However, secrecy.
                        Yes! And on the F-117 were also such. Only, looser, over Yugoslavia did they fly in stealth mode, so that they shot him down in a fair battle.

                        On the F-117 they really put on top such special panels, which make them visible to relatively weak radars of civilian air traffic control services over the territory of the United States, and the rest you broke. smile
                      3. Rzzz
                        Rzzz 5 December 2018 23: 55
                        0
                        For 30 years, dispatching radars have been used only secondary - according to the defendant on the plane.
              2. Lex.
                Lex. 23 January 2018 23: 00
                0
                https://42.tut.by/577988
                It’s interesting in the USA, like the engine was tested for SR-72
              3. victor50
                victor50 10 August 2018 08: 44
                +1
                Quote: Mih1974
                I don’t know whether NATO laughs at the air forces, but in fact in Syria our aviation trampled them into the corrugation. And the super-invisible Fu-22 could only be "familial" to attack aircraft of its class, but when the Su-35 appeared, it fell into the fog

                You want to read endlessly !!! If so! But speaking to high school students with such fiery speeches is just that! Not quite for the site, sorry, everything, to put it mildly, .... superficially. wink
          2. dvaposto
            dvaposto 28 January 2018 01: 00
            0
            only the combat radius is very small. what's the use of speed if the enemy is not going to come far and close. second, from here there is a small cover zone, in this zone there are few suitable hidden places for takeoff - you can’t hide much.
      3. Homeless
        Homeless 26 January 2018 18: 35
        0
        Sorry, you can’t put more than 1 plus!
  2. Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 22 January 2018 13: 48
    +1
    It is good of course that the windshield has finally begun to change, although I expected that it would be made solid both on the one that had not had time to start the MiG-31M series during the USSR.
  3. Horse meat
    Horse meat 30 January 2018 17: 30
    0
    MIG-35 can 3400 km / h?
    If not, then he is 31: m not a replacement.
    31: The first fighter and interceptor is.
    Here is 35: th multipurpose.

    Which MIG can catch everyone, that and the fighter.
  • Egorovich
    Egorovich 21 January 2018 10: 52
    +7
    MIG-31БМ - Super plane !!! The air monster of our time !!!
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 21 January 2018 18: 45
      12
      Quote: Egorovich
      MIG-31БМ - Super plane !!! The air monster of our time !!!

      For this you need to say thank you to the sailors: the former commander of the Black Sea Fleet adm. V.P. Komoyedov reared up in the Senate when the then VKS commander Bondarev decided to cut, and not upgrade, the 31 machines. At that time, I was still indignant at the “foresight” of the VKS boss, who decided to put under the knife this unique system ... yes
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 21 January 2018 19: 14
        15
        From this “foresight”, we sawed the whole country (USSR). As for the MIG-31BM, it will be unsurpassed for at least another 20 years.
      2. NN52
        NN52 21 January 2018 21: 07
        12
        Boa kaa

        Yes, actually for saying about Bondarev here on the site, for some reason I was awarded warnings ....
        About how he killed 31 ...
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 21 January 2018 21: 10
          +2
          Quote: NN52
          Yes, actually for saying about Bondarev here on the site, for some reason I was awarded warnings ....

          Apparently very sharply, in obscene form they expressed their protest ... Admins do not need too much, but they don’t give away theirs ... I have 3 black balls ... However.
          1. NN52
            NN52 21 January 2018 21: 14
            +9
            I have two ...
            But there was no frank mat, it was veiled.
            But he did not argue with administrators.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 21 January 2018 21: 19
              +2
              Quote: NN52
              there was no frank mat; it was veiled.

              Read the site rules. There it is. So, litter !!!
      3. Alexandras
        Alexandras 21 January 2018 23: 00
        0
        Bondarev believed that the Yak-130 will turn out a great attack aircraft!
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 22 January 2018 02: 29
          +5
          So I have for such "coopers" an excellent means of "enlightenment of the brain" - if someone offers to cut something - then "postpone the cut" until an advertised "replacement" is created, put that wise guy in it - and let him survive in a real battle against that what he wanted to saw good am . It will help a lot to "filter the spoken words" and as they say in a certain environment, "" answer for the proposed sentence " good
  • Grizzly
    Grizzly 21 January 2018 11: 00
    +1
    944,4 m / s
    2,85 max
    Footage over Kamchatka
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 21 January 2018 11: 05
    11
    Such an aircraft will not have analogues for another 20 years! You can’t save on the army for one reason, if they are the first to die for us!
    1. SOF
      SOF 21 January 2018 12: 03
      13
      Quote: steel maker
      Such an aircraft will not have analogues for another 20 years! You can’t save on the army for one reason, if they are the first to die for us!

      You have to try hard to make him die. Not every rocket will catch up with him laughing
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 21 January 2018 12: 50
        +7
        Quote: SOF
        Quote: steel maker
        Such an aircraft will not have analogues for another 20 years! You can’t save on the army for one reason, if they are the first to die for us!

        You have to try hard to make him die. Not every rocket will catch up with him laughing

        He himself is like a rocket. good good good
  • Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 21 January 2018 12: 37
    0
    Quote: figvam
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    Finally, they found a solution for glazing the cabin. But I haven’t seen any solutions yet about the chassis? The fact that I’m building the fastest plane again, I’m glad. But it’s time for it to rest. Like no other decade in operation. MIG-35 at least and partially replaces its achievements, and in flight range, and fuel consumption exceeds, but we need a fundamentally new aircraft, with the same breakthrough achievements.

    What a MIG-35 that you carry !!! Airplanes of different classes, different tasks. MIG-31 replacements do not exist yet, it is a pure interceptor with characteristics that no aircraft in the world have.

    And now without hysteria. Does anyone in the world of a likely enemy work at such a height and at such a speed? No, of course. SR-71 is gone. And when they appear, the MIZ-31 already uses all its resources. The huge speed has its own prosperity, due to high fuel consumption, and accordingly. limited flight range. In addition, it has problems with the quantity and quality of weapons. Although long-range missiles and suspension points. I have MIG 35 (this is an example for me, because which one corporation produces and modernizes. Consequently, all the developments are the same) With an equipped weight of only 11 tons, the aircraft can accelerate to 2300 km / h. At the same time, he can take on board 4,5 tons of weapons and fly 3200 km with it (if there are spare fuel tanks) of the MIG 31. Without refueling, the fighter is capable of flying up to 3000 km. The ceiling is 20,5 km. The average duration of a flight without refueling is 3,3 hours. The main distinguishing feature of the MIG-35 is its increased flight range, completely updated avionics, enhanced on-board armament, and the ability to carry more attachments and ammunition than the MIG 31. The HOTAS principle was fully implemented in the MiG-35. What does it mean? The fact is that during the flight all the information necessary for the pilot is displayed directly on the glass of the cockpit cap. For this, three “displays” are used at once. This concept allows the pilot to conduct an air battle without being distracted by instrument control. MIG 31 does not. MIG 31BLLS Zaslon-M makes it possible to detect flying targets up to 320 km and defeat up to 290 km .. But we have long-range missiles there isn’t for him? But the F-22 has them. Production, the conveyors for it were closed, collapsed, or abroad now. We use what remains in the bins of the homeland, including the chassis. I have one more question. Why is MIG-25 I’m not modernizing it, and they don’t put it in operation. It’s possible to do this. Airplanes are really unique. Here is food for you to refute!
    1. NN52
      NN52 21 January 2018 13: 46
      35
      Yes ....... In the process, you are not at all in the subject ... Neither 31 nor 35 ..
      At 31 bm, two people are actually, and the same three displays are behind ...
      In the front cockpit, the Windshield Indicator is at 31, not at the cap ...
      The pilot-navigator is engaged in armament, and the pilot is not distracted ...
      With the chassis all the rules, Gidromash steers ...
      RVV database is already in the army in general .. And where will you be at 35 interesting to hang it? Especially with a bug that only sees 200?
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 21 January 2018 18: 53
        11
        Quote: NN52
        Along the way, you are not at all in the subject ... Neither 31, nor 35 ..
        Thank you, colleague ... And then I, a sailor, wanted to answer your opponent. But you did it succinctly and expertly (for an injection!), Without spreading your thoughts through the tree. Thank! hi
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 11: 41
          +4
          Quote: BoA KAA
          Thank you, colleague ... Thank you! hi

          A colleague, half a second, was touched for their near and dear angry therefore, it will vomit, which I will happily support No.
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 22 January 2018 02: 39
        +8
        You’ll add the main thing that, unlike the same Fu-22s, there is no need for “invisible” for a moment; That is, if the same Fu-22 tries to chase after it, then "31" (conditionally) can lead it to the "sitting in an ambush" Mig-29 which, without turning on the radars, will simply "wait" and tear to pieces the American "eagle". I already wrote above that the Americans “scattered” some “31” capabilities on different planes - long-range missiles with one, radars - with the other, they generally realized high speed only on a scout. And we have in fact implemented in one plane their "brochures". Yes, kerosene "31" eats mercilessly, but this is the price that you have to pay for military superiority.
      3. victor50
        victor50 10 August 2018 08: 53
        0
        Quote: NN52
        RVV database is already in the army in general .. And where will you be at 35 interesting to hang it? Especially with a bug that only sees 200?

        Plus, the R-37 is often said, maybe they will go into series. On the MiG-31M, as many as 6 of them were going to be suspended. I don’t remember, on BM, it seems, all the same 4 remain.
    2. SOF
      SOF 21 January 2018 14: 21
      12
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      MIG 31BRS “Zaslon-M” makes it possible to detect flying targets up to 320 km and defeat up to 290 km ..But then we have no long-range missiles for him?

      ... P37, and promising KC172.
      ... and for the sake of comparing a light fighter, inherently close combat, with an interceptor whose task is to respond quickly and precisely to intercept?
      1. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 21 January 2018 15: 30
        0
        https://topwar.ru/82782-.html А ни кто и не спорит.Просто озвучиваем проблемы,КОТОРЫЕ НУЖНО УСТРАНЯТЬ!Нужен новый ПАК ДП,нужны новые РВВ-БД,нужна новая электроника,с параметрами не уступающими МИГ-31
        1. andreyps2008
          andreyps2008 21 January 2018 19: 48
          +1
          No one voiced all real problems. And about 37 you can generally forget in the next 10 years in a series will not work. It is precisely necessary to design a replacement for 31mu, it is outdated, and new long-range missiles, at least an analogue of the latest modification AIM120. And to begin to revive their own electronics, do not use Chinese.
          1. user1212
            user1212 23 January 2018 17: 39
            +2
            Quote: andreyps2008
            And you can forget about 37yu in the next 10 years.

            4 years in a series
            Quote: andreyps2008
            and new long-range missiles, at least an analog of the latest modification AIM120

            120 - medium-range missile. Our analogue is R-77-1 / RVV-SD (commercially produced at Vympel ")
            1. andreyps2008
              andreyps2008 24 January 2018 20: 59
              0
              That's exactly the 77th of the first series, I will not give a range, but I will say that it has long been inferior to AIM 120 of the latest modifications in range. The only excuse for the 77th I’ll say is that we really don’t have any better and so far is not expected.
              1. Conserp
                Conserp 25 January 2018 15: 32
                0
                that it has long been inferior to AIM 120 of the latest modifications in range.

                It is "long behind" only idiotic Wikipedia figures.

                The reach of the AIM-120 is 35 km in standard conditions.
    3. Conserp
      Conserp 22 January 2018 15: 19
      +5
      ..But we have no long-range missiles for him?

      Lying. There are R-33 and R-37.

      F-22 have them.

      Lying. The United States generally has no long-range missiles.

      The maximum range of the AIM-120 is 35 km (from subsonic, at H = 10 km) and 45 km (from supersonic).

      It feels like this citizen bears his illiterate nonsense, simply composing a text from separate sentences, from somewhere copied.

      And finally. The absence of spaces after punctuation marks is a clear identification sign of a minor trie.
      1. andreyps2008
        andreyps2008 22 January 2018 16: 22
        0
        With r-33, only on sparrows are not movable to shoot, but about 37 I already said. Unfortunately, our missiles are already outdated, but no new one is expected, at least on the 31st
        1. Conserp
          Conserp 22 January 2018 18: 41
          +4
          i already said

          You already said a lot of illiterate nonsense.
    4. user1212
      user1212 23 January 2018 17: 25
      +3
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      But then we have no long-range missiles for him?

      And where did the P37 go?
      In 2014, the RVV-BD rocket was adopted by the Russian Air Force, its serial production was officially launched (Bulletin of KTRV. No. 8 for 2015)
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      And the F-22 they have

      What is this?
      1. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 23 January 2018 17: 40
        +1
        The unique R-37 rocket was developed and was in service with the USSR Air Force. After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine with its components remained behind the hill, and refused to cooperate with us in the supply of this rocket. A new K-37 RVV-BD rocket was created, already according to Russian Projects. The K-37 missile / product 610 / was equipped with a radar homing head GSN 9B-1388 / MFBU-610 /. 9B-1388 was developed by the Research Institute "Agat" and mass-produced by the Ryazan Radio Plant. The diameter of the GOS 9B-1388 is 380 mm, the mass is 40 kg, the range of radio correction (from the carrier) is up to 100 km, the range of target acquisition with an EPR area of ​​5 m2 of active radar of the GOS is 40 km. For F-22, advanced versions of AIM-120 are developed that exceed 100 km and, presumably, can be 160 km. But our promising rocket is cooler than KS-172
        1. user1212
          user1212 23 January 2018 18: 07
          0
          https://topwar.ru/134230-novyy-mig-31bm-razognali
          -do-3400-km-ch.html # comment-id-7806363
          1. Mar.Tirah
            Mar.Tirah 23 January 2018 18: 24
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            :) :) :) :). Well, what is this ah! Well, I did explain to you that this missile has been modernized. Look at my comment below. Who, and for what purposes? Am I guilty of old data on the MIG-31 But you don’t need to go to extremes? And throw the caps over the enemy too. One of the authors of the article on this topic taught me about the shortcomings of the MIG-31. I don’t want to search for a long time, you will find more if you want. Https: //russian.rt. com / world / article / 446
            838-oruzhie-kosmos-ssha
            1. Mar.Tirah
              Mar.Tirah 23 January 2018 19: 26
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              https://vpk.name/news/155143_sd10a_ostalos_nemnog
              o_do_aim120d.html
              1. Conserp
                Conserp 25 January 2018 15: 38
                +1
                Quote: Mar. Tira
                https://vpk.name/news/155143_sd10a_ostalos_nemnog
                o_do_aim120d.html

                You're still on Wikipedia, iksperd.

                A range of 150 km is reached by the AIM-120D only in the case of launch from the MiG-31 flying at an altitude of 20 km in three Machs, by flying towards a passenger plane.
            2. NN52
              NN52 23 January 2018 20: 35
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              Mar.Tirah

              You advice is BIG, you better do not meddle in aviation topics ....
              Your reputation will not suffer ....
              Lavrov remember .... pzhl ///
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              2. Mar.Tirah
                Mar.Tirah 24 January 2018 00: 29
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                Thank you, of course, that you care about my reputation. Well, if she helped the lads that now remained in the place of my previous service, I would gladly give it away. But it will not help. It is impossible to cover the MIG-31 link with what was previously covered by the SU-15 regiment .And it’s the whole Northeast of Chukotka. And they won’t give any more in the near future. But no. Now there are two RS-135s coming from the north and east of Alaska, and all your reputation will collapse with speed. Because you know how many planes you need to escort one purpose. Yes, and the MIG-31 is not intended for escort. You should know this better than me.
                1. NN52
                  NN52 24 January 2018 10: 03
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                  Mar.Tirah


                  How do you like that?
                  1. NN52
                    NN52 24 January 2018 10: 05
                    +9
                    Mar.Tirah

                    One Orion - accompanies a couple of 31 ....
                    1. Mar.Tirah
                      Mar.Tirah 24 January 2018 11: 14
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                      And do you think this is proportionate? For example, I don’t. For this there should be other planes. That's what I’m leading to. Which are more ergonomic and adapted for such purposes. Here I didn’t think that the times will come again when to accompany one ORION , consumes a lot of kerosene, and airplanes. In Coal Mines, airplanes took off at intervals of 15 minutes. And RS-135 hung out in our zone for up to 6 hours, like P3C .. And it happened every week. I found the time when it was to us And SR-71 flew two times. So a whole squadron grazed it, and on the CP of the Air Defense Division everyone was wet in the back. That's when the MIG-31, or at least the MIG-25 came in handy. But after the theft to Japan, they were afraid to leave them close to the border. A photo is good. Appreciated.
                      1. Conserp
                        Conserp 25 January 2018 15: 44
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                        Have you yet been taught at school to put spaces after punctuation marks?
                2. Ivanov_39
                  Ivanov_39 24 January 2018 15: 15
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                  31 links do not have ...
                  These are airships and a tactical unit Mig-31 unit of four devices.
                  1. Mar.Tirah
                    Mar.Tirah 25 January 2018 06: 53
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                    Persuaded. Yesterday; The duty link of the MiG-31 fighters was raised by alarm from the Yelizovo airdrome located in the Kamchatka Territory. "During the flights, the fighter pilots worked together as part of a pair while performing air defense missions," the Eastern Military District press center said. Yesterday in other news; The MiG-31BM link arrived at an aviation regiment based at the Central Corner military airdrome near Vladivostok. MiG-31BM. "New aircraft are equipped with modern aviation equipment ...
        2. Conserp
          Conserp 25 January 2018 15: 37
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          For the F-22, developed advanced versions of the AIM-120 exceed 100 km and, presumably, can be 160 km

          You need to be treated.

          Reach AIM-120 of all modifications - 35 km in standard conditions.
  • Lexus
    Lexus 21 January 2018 14: 30
    +7
    Rather, they would have come to the KS-172 troops. With this missile, the MiG-31BM will be able to realize its full potential.
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  • Old military officer
    Old military officer 21 January 2018 16: 35
    +1
    Good news! For us. And let the “friends” choke on their saliva and beware of approaching the borders.
  • krokus792
    krokus792 21 January 2018 17: 40
    +1
    "Blackbird" nervously smokes aside ....
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 21 January 2018 18: 57
      10
      Quote: krokus792
      "Blackbird" nervously smokes aside ....

      SR-71 does not carry weapons at all, so “smoking” is, in principle, contraindicated, however! bully
    2. Cheldon
      Cheldon 22 January 2018 09: 18
      +1
      SR-71 aircraft reconnaissance, max speed half-3,5M, attack is possible in the front hemisphere or from a large angle. In the rear hemisphere, the excess of the interceptor speed over the target speed should be with a factor of 1,2- so that even a speed of 3400 km (3.0 M) is not enough. Therefore, smoking on the side of the SR-71, unfortunately, is too early.
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 11: 34
        +9
        Quote: Cheldon
        .. smoking on the side of the SR-71, unfortunately, is too early.

        Here they said above: learn the materiel! what SR hasn’t been flying for a long time, even the Amer’s budget has not pulled the cost of its flight. And 3,5M he did not run. And he always shied away from -31 by a 180-turn
  • Vsevolod
    Vsevolod 21 January 2018 18: 45
    +1
    Damn, is it 3400 or 3200? The confused fuckers!
  • andreyps2008
    andreyps2008 21 January 2018 19: 33
    +1
    One of the main features of the 31st is to see small targets against the background of the earth, otherwise it is hopelessly outdated, even with modernization.
    1. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 21 January 2018 19: 54
      +7
      Excuse me, but you are not out of date with your thoughts? Or maybe you have already built something better?
      1. andreyps2008
        andreyps2008 21 January 2018 20: 00
        +1
        Thoughts are not outdated, I am not a “patriot cheer” and I look at things realistically. Better already have a SU-30cm. At least 77e can actually be hung on it.
        1. NN52
          NN52 21 January 2018 20: 19
          18
          Do you even understand what you are writing about R 77 ???
          She has long been 30 cm, and on Su 35, and 31 .....
          We are talking about the RVV database, to be exact ... And she already ....
          You are worse than a patriot hurray ...
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 21 January 2018 23: 15
            +5
            A colleague, enlighten (amateur, especially off topic, not a pro). And R 33 already written off, do not use?
            1. NN52
              NN52 21 January 2018 23: 25
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              My answer is a little different .. Not all 31 have been upgraded to BM yet ...

              And they didn’t write off anything ... Still in the ranks .... There are a lot of them ... Startups do by them ..
              And others are few ..
              1. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 11: 37
                +4
                Gamardzhoba genatsvali. Oh, they woke you up from the morning wink laughing
                1. NN52
                  NN52 22 January 2018 15: 11
                  11
                  Pete mitchell

                  Thank you.
                  They haven’t gotten it yet ..
                  Got another topic about the aircraft carrier and Su 24
                  1. Pete mitchell
                    Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 20: 55
                    +3
                    You tell someone to ask? Your “mentor”, from my graduation, studied with him, the leader -27, in the same class ;-) “Chopin” plays musical instruments like Mozart probably
          2. andreyps2008
            andreyps2008 22 January 2018 16: 34
            0
            77th on 31m only on paper and I think it will be so until it is sent to the scrap.
            1. user1212
              user1212 23 January 2018 17: 59
              +2
              Quote: andreyps2008
              77th on 31m only on paper

              Again a lie lol
              1. andreyps2008
                andreyps2008 24 January 2018 21: 15
                0
                Why lies, if there is an opportunity to hang 77th on a plane, this does not mean that it already weighs there.
  • Vladimir SHajkin
    Vladimir SHajkin 21 January 2018 20: 35
    +1
    Modernization is good
  • Cheldon
    Cheldon 21 January 2018 20: 37
    +3
    The MIG-31 was built to replace the MIG-25, which in turn was designed to intercept the SR-71. The combat capabilities of the MIG-31 will be enough for another 20 years. This is an interceptor, it is not intended for maneuverable close combat, although there is a six-barreled gun on board, very fast-firing.
    MIG-31 as a mini AWACS, read https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG-31.
  • Victor_B
    Victor_B 22 January 2018 11: 39
    +3
    Pete Mitchell,
    Yes, even walked on foot, spitting!
    It's about a specially trained "deteriorator / improver" EPR.
    He pressed the button - stealth, pressed the other - half-stealth, pressed the third and never stealth at all.
    And in Syria, they are just flying in the "nedels" mode.
    They stealth for their future battles with air defense of Mordor.
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 12: 12
      +7
      Quote: Victor_B
      ..have even walked, spitting!

      Victor dear, I see that you are sick of the soul for the cause, but I will quote you: teach the materiel and good luck with this smile
  • Dimid
    Dimid 22 January 2018 12: 07
    +6
    Quote: Mar. Tira

    MIG 35 ... With a curb weight of only 11 tons, the aircraft can accelerate to 2300 km / h. At the same time, he can aboard take 4,5 tons of weapons and fly 3200 km with it (if you have spare fuel tanks) Without refueling, a fighter is capable of flying up to 3000 km. The ceiling is 20,5 km. The average duration of a flight without refueling is 3,3 hours. The main distinguishing feature of the MIG-35 is its increased flight range, completely updated avionics, reinforced airborne armament, as well as the ability to carry more attachments and ammunition than the MIG 31. The MiG-35 fully implemented the HOTAS principle. What does it mean? The fact is that during the flight all the information necessary for the pilot is displayed directly on cockpit glass. For this, three “displays” are used at once.. This concept allows the pilot to conduct an air battle without being distracted by instrument control. MIG 31 does not. MIG 31BLLS Zaslon-M makes it possible to detect flying targets up to 320 km and defeat up to 290 km .. But we have long-range missiles no for him? But the F-22 has them. Production, the conveyors for it were closed, destroyed, or abroad now. We use what remains in the bins of the motherland, including the chassis. I have one more question.Why I don’t modernize the MIG-25, and they don’t put it in operation. It’s possible to do thisThe planes are really unique. Here is food for you to refute!

    Hmm ... IT can be disassembled into quotes. So much text, but in fact the knowledge on the subject is very superficial. "to take 4,5 tons of weapons and fly 3200 km with it (if there are spare fuel tanks)" --- either one or the other, i.e. either take or fly. Together will not work.
    "The MiG-35 fully implemented the HOTAS principle." Yes, and they tried to conduct an educational program. (read above original). So, the abbreviation HOTAS stands for Hands On Throttle and Stick. Those. control of the aircraft without taking his hands off the control levers (RUD and RUS). Moreover, the concept of this (invented by the way the Americans are so unloved here) is already "a hundred years in the afternoon", i.e. this is not news at all.
    Further, the general confusion is: “all the information necessary for the pilot is displayed directly on the glass of the cockpit hood. Three“ displays ”are used for this.” Well, about the glass cap "I won’t even comment. But presenting three displays directly on the frontal glazing of the cabin is funny. The information is not displayed on the cockpit glazing itself, but on the so-called HUD (English HUD) --- an indicator on the windshield, in fact - on the background windshield. Well, about the revival of the MiG-25 production --- this is generally nonsense.
    I “sorted out” the answer of one of the participants in the discussion, who spoke out, so to speak, not in support of the MiG-31.
    But this does not mean that I consider the MiG-31 a miracle as a weapon. Here, some participants lit up whole flaunting essays about how cool the new 31st is, how far it shoots with missiles, how it flies away from everyone and "generally kapets." Honestly, it’s a pity just to write any refutations of your time --- you still can’t convince these people.
    ps I notice that less and less began to go to the VO, as this place began to resemble a meeting of cheers-patriots. A sort of brawl ..... Sensible people less and less. Propaganda works great ..
    1. NN52
      NN52 22 January 2018 22: 01
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      Dimid

      Well then, then it’s better for you not to go to the site anymore, with this approach ...
      They chose the dumbest comment and commented on it ...
      Respect to you //
  • Oleg Soloninkin
    Oleg Soloninkin 22 January 2018 13: 30
    -1
    What does patriotism have to do with it? Just to prick? The people are fed up with the red and liberal EVERYDAY lies. This is where their reaction to such articles comes from.
    And further. In fact, the MiG-31 is a refinement of the largely intermediate MiG-25. The start time of production is not much different from the start time of production of the F-22.
    For reference, the mattresses tried to revive the Raptor production, but with a negative result due to the loss of specialists who would be able to revive Technology and Production. And Russia was able to revive the technology of complex welding, without which, in principle, it is impossible to revive the production of Tu-160 and the same MiGs.
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 13: 34
      +6
      Quote: Oleg Soloninkin
      In fact, the MiG-31 is a refinement of the largely intermediate MiG-25. The start time of production is not much different from the start time of production of the F-22.

      At the desk, in the books: learn the materiel No.
    2. NN52
      NN52 22 January 2018 15: 16
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      31 is a completely different plane than 25.
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 19: 01
        +3
        Happy holiday dear drinks
      2. Grigory_78
        Grigory_78 23 January 2018 00: 26
        +1
        “Exactly the same mine, only smaller but different ...” (c) film “Election Day”.
        A joke of humor. You got a clumsy comment, do not blame me.
        I am pleased to read your comments, trying not to participate myself, because a layman ...
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 23 January 2018 00: 49
          +3
          Quote: Gregory_78
          I am pleased to read your comments ..

          Taki has the right to his opinion, especially on his holiday
  • Charik
    Charik 22 January 2018 16: 58
    0
    where is how he accelerated 3400- in someone’s fantasies
  • Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 22 January 2018 17: 19
    +2
    Quote: Conserp
    There are R-33 and R-37.

    You probably wanted to say, the K-37 missile / product 610 / was equipped with a radar homing head GSN 9B-1388 / MFBU-610 /. 9B-1388 was developed by the Research Institute "Agat" and mass-produced by the Ryazan Radio Plant. The diameter of the GOS 9B-1388 is 380 mm, the mass is 40 kg, the range of radio correction (from the carrier) is up to 100 km, the target capture range with an EPR area of ​​5 m2 of active radar of the GOS is 40 km, because Russia does not now launch such missiles. like the R-37. But KS-172, yes, a cool rocket. Well, etc. For the F-22, a fundamentally new rocket was developed. The maximum range of advanced versions of the AIM-120 exceeds 100 km and, presumably, can be 160 km. At the same time, all the performance characteristics under the LREW program are classified. It is assumed that the new missile will be able to bring down ballistic hypersonic targets in near space. The enemy suggests, and we must have. The MIG-31 had such a missile.
  • vik669
    vik669 22 January 2018 21: 22
    0
    Quote: Pete Mitchell
    At the desk, in the books: learn the materiel

    A dispute between agronomists and livestock specialists about something (who knows how product 01 differs from product 84 he knows) !!!
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 21: 29
      +4
      Quote: vik669
      how product 01 differs from product 84 he knows

      Doesn’t you need to learn to understand? At the desk, in the books ...
    2. NN52
      NN52 22 January 2018 21: 49
      10
      vik669

      And who do you relate to? To an agronomist or livestock specialist?

      What is closer to you? Pesticides or what?
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 22: 07
        +4
        "Two hundred and fifty," leave the man a choice.
        Let's go for a holiday, there’s someone to raise for
  • vik669
    vik669 22 January 2018 22: 36
    +2
    Quote: NN52
    And who do you relate to?

    AO engineer was engaged in both 84m and 01m when they were neither 25m nor 31m! Continue 3,14 to wish you success in your difficult ....! I just read and understood why smart ones in sharashki worked effectively!
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 22: 55
      +3
      And it’s you in vain, you must be more modest. It's nice that you are confident in yourself, maybe we have less engineering knowledge, but we can share how the machines are operated. And we are not arguing with you from the hands, the categories are different.
      Have a nice day drinks
      1. NN52
        NN52 22 January 2018 23: 09
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        Pete

        They just do not understand ... And they can no longer be redone ...

        Yes, it’s like we, too, seem to be with you in the diploma - engineer ....
        And plus we and the direct operators ...
        Well, AOshnikov, as well as SD, REO and all other guys of specialties, I respect ...
        Only if they don’t take much in words ...
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 23: 22
          +3
          Genatsvale, all of us "for the State" insulted.
          Come on one more, for our holiday. wink
        2. xtur
          xtur 24 January 2018 17: 56
          +1
          I have one request for you, NN52, and for Pete Mitchell.

          I read the MiG-31 tx on the wiki, and so, the combat radius is specified as 720 km. As I understand it, this is when loading weapons in 5t, and cruising speed. If such comments are not prohibited by privacy, please comment at what load and at what speed the combat radius of 720 km
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 24 January 2018 21: 37
            +3
            Arthur, in the wiki, on airwar.ru, army.lv there is a lot of useful information. I am sure you will find the answers to your questions. The car is really wonderful repeat
            1. NN52
              NN52 24 January 2018 23: 01
              +9
              Pete mitchell

              The car is even more than wonderful.
  • vik669
    vik669 22 January 2018 23: 13
    +2
    Quote: Pete Mitchell
    And you are in vain

    Yes, I could not restrain myself when I read that the New MiG-31BM had accelerated to 3400 km / h and remembered what speed Zaporozhets would develop if I let it down from Mount Ararat, then I talked with Fedotov so that I had a normal level when USSR country - there was such a one from it and remained 31st and plans were higher than 31BM! I climbed only because "It's a shame for the state!"
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 22 January 2018 23: 25
      +3
      I say: in vain you are so.
      We do not specifically predict anything, education does not allow: in the system on the Walk of Fame, the name of Fedotov is inscribed in gold letters. For the State and we are offended ..
      Today is our holiday, raise ..
  • g.wise
    g.wise 23 January 2018 21: 37
    +4
    No arguing, our planes are the best in the world! And as for the stealth stealth technology, there are currently no problems finding these Amerikosov planes! In the late 50s, Petr Ufimtsev, a young scientist, developed a theory that was framed in the work “The method of boundary waves in the physical theory of diffraction”, the meaning of which was that the basic principle of detecting targets when the radar radiated and then received a reflected signal was washed out due to the special shape of the aircraft structure, so that the radar signal emitted can be reflected to the sides, but not back to the radar. The theory was progressive at that time, but huge amounts of money were needed to implement it, moreover, aircraft of this type did not fly quickly. Labor was postponed to the archive. In those days, our anti-aircraft missile systems did not have a sufficient aircraft destruction zone, and it was only in the 70s that we had developments that resulted in the creation of the S-300 air defense system, which could be combined into a single system and work in a single system a single time with a high degree of synchronization, and in our time with an even greater degree, which makes it possible to detect such STELS targets with high probability due to radiation by one complex, and reception by another and launching missiles by the third, etc. Stealth technology here is already ineffective. Therefore, our scouts in the 70s got this work and slipped it to the Americans, and Ufimtsev was sent there to give lectures. And on the basis of the "Zona-51" facility, the Americans began to work on the creation and testing of new STELS aircraft, which broke a huge loot. Just like in SOI!
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 24 January 2018 22: 29
      +3
      Where is the droushka?
      1. Awaz
        Awaz 5 August 2018 13: 34
        +1
        the story about stealth from Ufimtsev is completely true. The only thing that can be argued is that our Americans slipped the idea as a disa. There is no clear evidence on this subject. But from the height of past years, it seems to be true. Although there may be an accident.
  • Scalpel
    Scalpel 24 January 2018 11: 48
    0
    Cool, the glazing was finalized. Now there are engines, a glider and armament left to finalize so that it picks up such speed in real life - in fact, a new plane will work out.
  • Lucy
    Lucy 12 February 2018 15: 24
    +1
    A star is starring.
    The lantern was dispersed to 3400, the engine to 3200.
    Since the days of the MiG-25, the MiG-31 has had restrictions on M = 2.83. A bit more than 3000 km / h. To what tactics and when intercepting what, will these 400 km / h be used when flying at H> 11m?