Ministry of Defense ordered the Russian military to leave the Afrin area

The Russian command in Syria has taken measures to ensure the security of servicemen in Afrin, where Turkey is conducting an operation against the Kurds, the Defense Ministry said.

The military department stressed that the task force of the Reconciliation Center of the warring parties and the military police was redeployed from Afrin to the Tell-Ajar region.

For the prevention of possible provocations, the elimination of threats to the life and health of the Russian military, the operational group of the Reconciliation Center of the warring parties and the military police in the Afrin area has been redeployed to the Tell-Ajar area of ​​the Tell-Rifjat deconflict zone

- The press service of the Ministry of Defense of Russia.

The Reconciliation Center continues to continuously monitor the situation in the Tell-Rifat de-escalation zone in order to promptly assist the civilian population leaving the combat areas, the report says.

We remind you that the operation of the Turkish army "Olive Branch" began in 17.00 Moscow time. It is directed against the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party, the Syrian Kurdish Self-Defense Forces (YPG), which Ankara considers associated with the banned Kurdistan Workers Party. The purpose of the operation is "clearing the region from terrorists and saving the fraternal people from terrorist oppression."

Comments

[210ox]

Well, this news was already on the eve.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Reasonable step on their part. The Russian military invited the Kurds to occupy the territory of Assad before the Turkish invasion, but they turned out citing that they were independent and would deal with the Turks themselves. So the Russian military has nothing more to do there.

[210ox]

With them? Or ours? I understand that it’s not worth ours to harness for anyone in a Turkish-Kurdish meat grinder.

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Reasonable step on their part

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

From the Russian. Why our soldiers should harness and die for Kurdish independence, I absolutely do not understand.

[Monos]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

From the Russian. Why our soldiers should harness and die for Kurdish independence, I absolutely do not understand.

Kurds, of course, feel sorry, but they themselves are to blame. They didn’t trust those ...

[cniza]

Good evening Teska! , there is so much wound up and we do not know the full information, but someone is trying to redistribute the situation not in favor of the United States.

[Monos]

Hello buddy!

Quote: cniza

someone is trying to redistribute the situation not in favor of the United States.

Ours, it seems, have learned to calmly and pragmatically solve such issues.

[Shurik70]

sweeping the region from terrorists and saving the fraternal people from terrorist oppression

Well, the Inquisition also saved people. Cleansed souls through suffering.

[Inok10]

Quote: Monos

Kurds, of course, feel sorry, but they themselves are to blame. They didn’t trust those ...

... my reverence Vit! ... ... or rather, this is the first lesson for them ... from two evils, you need to choose the lesser ... on the proposal of the Kurds to resume the activities of the Syrian local authorities, Assad offered them only two conditions:
- input contingent CAA
- resumption of activity in this territory Mukhabarat (security service of the ATS)
... The Kurds refused ... the result is in person ... I hope the lesson will go to good ... our "fit" will not and Assad, too ...

[LSA57]

Quote: Inok10

our "fit" will not be and Assad, too ...

such a small cabal
but it seems to me that the Turks of the Kurds

[Ile ham]

Most likely - yes, but at the cost of considerable losses ...

[serg999]

Yes, what losses there ... The level is different. With the Turks it is not for them to fight with the barmaley. There are technology and aviation.

[nils]

Quote: Monos

Kurds, of course, feel sorry, but they themselves are to blame. Not those trusted ..

Rather, Turkey and the Russian Federation have found mutual understanding.

[nils]

In continuation:
The Turkish Prime Minister said that the Turks will coordinate the air operation in Afrin with Russia and Iran. Of course, the Russian Federation did not confirm these statements.
Against the backdrop of negotiations in Moscow, "our friend" Assad stood up for the Athenian Kurds. Damascus opposed the Turkish operation in Afrin.
Interesting vinigret! Is not it?

[user1212]

Quote: nils

Against the backdrop of negotiations in Moscow, "our friend" Assad stood up for the Athenian Kurds. Damascus opposed the Turkish operation in Afrin.

Naturally. This is still the territory of Syria, although not controlled by official authorities. Assad does not excite the Kurds, but the fact that the Turks violate the border. And all

[muhomor]

Most likely the "good" police Assad offers a gingerbread-quiet life as part of a single Syria. Erdogan, an "evil" policeman, kicks out the spirit of independence from proud Kurds. You can guess how it all ends.

[Michael HORNET]

Kraken released)
The Kurds promised that the operation would be difficult for Erdogan with heavy losses. Let's look at the execution of this, otherwise Barzani also said a lot. Apparently Rozhavsky Kurds also threw Afrin

[Varna]

Quote: Monos

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

From the Russian. Why our soldiers should harness and die for Kurdish independence, I absolutely do not understand.

Kurds, of course, feel sorry, but they themselves are to blame. They didn’t trust those ...

Kurds nevermind should not be sorry - a lying and treacherous people (in my opinion). They are excused only by the fact that for many centuries they were oppressed and bent by everyone who is not lazy - a completely vile psychology was brought up at the level of genetic selection.
Believe me, it’s not for nothing that all the neighbors hate them - there is a reason.

[gromoboj]

If they contacted the United States, then the result is logical.

[axenm]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

.. Why for our Kurdish independence our soldiers should harness and perish, I absolutely do not understand.

as for the Syrian should not ..

[serg999]

And for the Russian should, do you think?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

From the Russian. Why our soldiers should harness and die for Kurdish independence, I absolutely do not understand.

I absolutely agree with you. But who will intelligently answer me why it is impossible to provide the Kurds with political and diplomatic support in creating, if not a separate state, then at least autonomy? Does anyone really understand that with so many Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey, this will be an eternal and ongoing conflict in this region? No, of course I understand the leaders of these countries, but they must understand that by suppressing the Kurds, the Kurdish issue cannot be resolved. Or am I misunderstanding something?

[vovanpain]

Quote: 210ox

With them? Or ours? I understand that it’s not worth ours to harness for anyone in a Turkish-Kurdish meat grinder.

Dmitriy None of ours and will harness for anyone to take ours from Afrin much earlier, news are delivered to VO belatedly. Well, it’s not for nothing that the chief of the Turkish General Staff went to meet with our Gerasimov. We agreed that everyone solves his own problems, and harness for the ugly Kurds on a nearby branch, Jewish cry for the Kurds is worth it.

[cniza]

There, the whole picture is already divided and now the plan for the extrusion of the United States is being implemented.

[LSA57]

Quote: cniza

and now the US extrusion plan is being implemented.

it will be troublesome ...
but you must...
Hi

[cniza]

Greetings and who said that it’s simple, but I agree, sooner or later it needs to be done.

[LSA57]

Quote: cniza

and who said that it’s simple, but I agree, sooner or later it must be done.

ideally crush them all over the planet. and in dreams, take away the printing press, they themselves will collapse

[cniza]

So China is working hard on this.

[LSA57]

Quote: cniza

So China is working hard on this.

Yes, the pass has passed, not one works

[cniza]

Naturally, not one, but China is like a flagship.

[Alber]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Reasonable step on their part. The Russian military invited the Kurds to occupy the territory of Assad before the Turkish invasion, but they turned out citing that they were independent and would deal with the Turks themselves. So the Russian military has nothing more to do there.

hmm ... does Assad agree to this Turkish operation?

[avt]

Quote: Alber

hmm ... does Assad agree to this Turkish operation?

In the light

Quote: Inok10

on the proposal of the Kurds to resume the activities of the Syrian local authorities, Assad offered them only two conditions:
- input contingent CAA
- resumption of activity in this territory Mukhabarat (security service of the ATS)
... the Kurds refused ...

At least not against it.

[TsUS-Air Force]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Reasonable step on their part. The Russian military invited the Kurds to occupy the territory of Assad before the Turkish invasion, but they turned out citing that they were independent and would deal with the Turks themselves. So the Russian military has nothing more to do there.

Thank! finally a sensible answer !!! otherwise I was worried that we were betraying our allies

[Michael HORNET]

Kurds Afrin are communists. The United States never needed them, and the United States abandoned them a week ago. So this is an ethnic cleansing of the adherents of communist ideology at the hands of the Turks. What everyone is happy about in general is because the capitalists

[xetai9977]

I'm watching Turkish TV now. Hurricane of fire! MLRS beat mercilessly! The infantry is moving forward slowly.

[Varna]

Quote: xetai9977

I'm watching Turkish TV now. Hurricane of fire! MLRS beat mercilessly! The infantry is moving forward slowly.

That's right, I agree with this speaker! I join - and let them kill each other as much as possible - both of them are not at all nice to me (if anything, I’ll beat it off, this is a quote from Truman)))).
In general, if you take into account that you can’t kill all the Kurds, then of course the “hurricane of fire” and the “beating of a merciless MLRS” (if anything, this is also a quote from the classic) - greatly contribute to the international reconciliation of Turks and Kurds. And if you take into account that the Kurds in Turkey are up to a fig (how many, probably 20 percent?), Then Erdogan certainly strongly strengthens and stabilizes Turkish statehood with these furious measures. Flag in his hands. Glad for Turkey.

[Sasha Crimean]

xetai9977 New ↑
Yesterday, 20: 47
I'm watching Turkish TV now. Hurricane of fire! MLRS beat mercilessly! The infantry is moving forward slowly.

Thanks for the first hand information.
Keep us posted whenever possible.

[xetai9977]

I will write already on a new branch, to change the situation. The Turks bombed the airport at night, where the Kurds received weapons. 72 F-16s bombed safely on targets and all returned to base

[Kent0001]

They put on amers.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Reasonable step on their part. The Russian military invited the Kurds to occupy the territory of Assad before the Turkish invasion, but they turned out citing that they were independent and would deal with the Turks themselves. So the Russian military has nothing more to do there.

how many were yelling, ours began to carry chestnuts from the ashes with the wrong hands !!!

[tracer]

And in this "something is" ... Is not it?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Reasonable step on their part. The Russian military invited the Kurds to occupy the territory of Assad before the Turkish invasion, but they turned out citing that they were independent and would deal with the Turks themselves. So the Russian military has nothing more to do there.

All right, if all this is true.

[Chertt]

I wonder if the USA will somehow react to the burial of its Kurdish allies

[210ox]

When they bury THEM "allies", the lord is silent. The main thing is that there would not be any fenders .... More precisely, it would be desirable that they would be ... For us.

Quote: Chertt

I wonder if the USA will somehow react to the burial of its Kurdish allies

[Chertt]

Quote: 210ox

.Main important that there were no fenders .... More precisely, it would be desirable that they would be ... For us.

Yes. If I’m not mistaken, the Americans still owe us for the blood of several soldiers and officers. And even one general (eternal memory to them)

[cniza]

So it's time to present the bill.

[Oleg7700]

Perhaps the commies Ajalan Afrin were not among the "allies" of the United States? They are with other Kurds in every way.

[user1212]

The United States handed over to the military units of the Kurdish militia in Syria a batch of man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS). This was reported by Al-Masdar, citing a source. This happened as part of a separate “secret agreement”. According to the interlocutor of the agency, the US military last week delivered MANPADS to the Afrin region in the Syrian province of Aleppo and handed them over to the Kurds
...The day before, Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdag accused the United States of creating a “terrorist army” in northern Syria. Bozdag noted that Washington’s actions in Syria "are incompatible with friendship, alliance and a model of strategic partnership with Turkey." According to him, the United States "play with fire", helping Syrian Kurds.
January 16 2018
And after 4 days the Turks are hilling some kind of "other" Kurds?

[LSA57]

Quote: Chertt

The USA will somehow react to the burial of its Kurdish allies

probably only a weapon

[gromoboj]

It may well. For example, mass protests of the Kurds in Turkey itself, protests smoothly turning into an armed rebellion.

[Alber]

Quote: 210ox

Well, this news was already on the eve.

sho for the "salvation of the brotherly people"? "

[Maz]

They are children, they took help from the Americans in their infancy, now they are an indicative flogging. And always - they sold two S-400 batteries and bought tomatoes. Ah yes the Sultan! Osman!

[Maz]

The Turkish Air Force combat missile attacks on the Minnig military airfield in Aleppo province, which the United States used to supply weapons to the YPG Kurdish People’s Self-Defense Forces and their Arab allies from the Syrian Democratic Forces. Oh no wonder our afrina left

[Hierarch]

Kurds end. But the Millerov Pipe will be through Turkey. I wonder how much this gang has already stolen from the pipe ...

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Ierarh

But the Millerov Pipe will be through Turkey. I wonder how much this gang has already stolen from the pipe ...

Write to the prosecutor. They won’t help you here. .

[LSA57]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Write to the prosecutor. They won’t help you here.

he still has a lot of poison

[210ox]

Yes, and the prosecutor’s office too .. Take a pencil ...

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Quote: Ierarh

But the Millerov Pipe will be through Turkey. I wonder how much this gang has already stolen from the pipe ...

Write to the prosecutor. They won’t help you here. .

[Maz]

The prosecutor’s office will not help either - right to the Hague

[Monos]

Quote: Ierarh

I wonder how much this gang has already stolen from the pipe ...

Enviously? Count your pieces of silver and do not envy adult uncles. Your caliber is not the same.

[Chertt]

Quote: Ierarh

Kurds end. But Millerov’s pipe will be through Turkey

What are you slippery

[Muvka]

So, I’ll just remind you that a controlling stake in Gazprom is in the hands of the state.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Ierarh

But the Millerov Pipe will be through Turkey. I wonder how much this gang has already stolen from the pipe ..

Oh, did Lech Navalny himself get into VO The news is about the collision of the Kurds with the Turks, and he is all about the pipe with the Miller and who feeds how much and how much they stole. Burn Lesha

[LSA57]

Quote: vovanpain

The news is about the collision of the Kurds with the Turks, and he is all about the pipe with the Miller and who feeds how much and how much they stole.

and he has any bast in a string

[vovanpain]

Quote: LSA57

and he has any bast in a string

That's for sure Sergey Before the election of slogans divorced the news will be about penguins in Antarctica, and they are about a pipe with Miller and about corruption.

[Chertt]

Quote: vovanpain

Before the election of slogans divorced

For what I respect, it’s for the fact that the gun *** well, here they will always directly say that he is a gun *** he

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Chertt

they will directly say that he is a gan *** he

Gunman?

[Svarog51]

Roman, welcome

Gunman?

I will offer my option - Gan Top he.

[Ile ham]

GangnmStaylON

[Svarog51]

Ilham It is difficult to pronounce and write. And then, why Style? This is a derivative of the rubber product No. 2.

[Gardamir]

Kurds with the Turks, and he’s all about the pipe with the Miller

more interested in what is happening. Russia has betrayed the Syrians. for the ability to pull the pipe ...

[Varna]

Quote: Gardamir

Kurds with the Turks, and he’s all about the pipe with the Miller

more interested in what is happening. Russia has betrayed the Syrians. for the ability to pull the pipe ...

Oh, how beautifully written - "betrayed" ... On this planet no one is betraying anyone - everyone is pulling his pipe, in every sense of this expression.

[Gardamir]

Oh how beautifully written - "betrayed"

Well, like this. After all, we were also beautifully served. Russia goes to Syria to defend Assad. and who forgot. then in a bang-patriotic frenzy. it was supposed that we are one people. Here in the Donbass are strangers, and the Syrians are almost Slavs ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Gardamir

and who forgot. then in a jingoistic patriotic frenzy. it was supposed that we are one people

Gardamir, here I am - forgot.
Indulge in a reference to the "united people"

[Gardamir]

Indulge in a reference

there will be a court and they will pamper you. where do you want, to Magadan or immediately to the center of Russia?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Gardamir

there will be a court and they will pamper you

Ahem ... someone here slows down a little, IMHO.
Once again, the question is:

Quote: Gardamir

Russia goes to Syria to defend Assad. and who forgot. then in a jingoistic patriotic frenzy. it was supposed that we are one people

Where is served?
By whom and when served?
Link to the source is required, otherwise again as usual empty trepidation turns

[Svarog51]

Novel, But this is already interesting

there will be a court and they will pamper you

This is how to evaluate? How is the threat? Especially expression

to Magadan or immediately to the center of Russia?

like As I understand it, they didn’t leave much choice.

[gromoboj]

Already said. For such questions they will be exiled to Siberia or shot at all. Lech bulk with his comrades is severe, not that the darkest.

[Monos]

Quote: Gardamir

Russia has betrayed the Syrians. for cart

You tell this to people in Damascus, Palmyra, Aleppo, Deir ez-Zor. Gaza sniffed? I understand that the evil trembling in the calloused fingers of the Internet troll prevents you from thinking, but at least some logic should be in the words and the head?

[Gardamir]

You tell this to people in Damascus, Palmyra, Aleppo, Deir ez-Zor. Gaza sniffed?

Are you from there? Voooot! The picture on TV and real life are very different. this can be judged by the cases here in Russia. And believe everything. just stupid. In December, everyone was defeated. and now there is nightmare hell again.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Gardamir

more interested in what is happening. Russia has betrayed the Syrians. for the ability to pull the pipe ...

Leonid For the opportunity to pull the Russian pipe in Syria and have nothing to do, and she was not going to pull the pipe there and was not going to. What Qatar wanted to stretch a pipe to Europe was back in 2010, Assad refused and has since become a “bad” guy, and in 2011 a civil war broke out and various gangs of any rabble flowed into Syria, Russia intervened in 2015 the year when Assad had 20% of the controlled territory, and for whom do you propose Leonid fighting for Russia? For Kurds, this is Assad’s business in general, not ours, and Assad suggested introducing parts of the SAA into their territory, the Kurds proudly turned away, we ourselves, well, ourselves They didn’t contact us. Well, that’s their business. And it’s right for our peace mission and the military police that they didn’t proudly rip off their shirts and scream dying, but we won’t let them through. And Syria

Quote: Monos

You tell it to people in Damascus, Palmyra, Aleppo, Deir ez-Zor

Leonid does not bring hatred towards anyone, then logic and the head turn off.

[Lexus]

The tricky game has begun. It’ll probably not work out differently ..

[Genry]

Sorry for the Kurds, but you need to learn their order (like cats in an apartment).

[Lexus]

Alas, it is.

[Hierarch]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Quote: Ierarh

But the Millerov Pipe will be through Turkey. I wonder how much this gang has already stolen from the pipe ...

Write to the prosecutor. They won’t help you here. .

Why am I asking for help?

[parusnik]

That's right. Let the “tigers” fight, and the “monkey” should sit on a tree, then to go down and take both skins off ... When they get weak ...

[Hierarch]

Who is the tigers?

[LSA57]

Quote: Ierarh

Who is the tigers?

well not you

[Mountain shooter]

The favorite thing for the striped-eared is to “surrender” its allies as soon as possible ... Or are these Kurds not the Kurds who helped free Raqqa?

[Hierarch]

Then it will be possible to "intercept" the Kurds from the "empire of good"? What were you thinking about before?
The truth will not work. Then the Millera pipe in Turkey is a matter of seams ... And this is not a retirement pension or army for you. This is a cooperative income!

[donavi49]

Not those. These generally from the beginning of the war +/- sit on the priest exactly. They only grew when the government army surrounded Aleppo - they quietly occupied a / b and a dozen villages.

Here on the map - those that the US helps, they have a territory to the east with oil, gas and the size of an average European country. From those Kurds assisted by the United States - the Sultan demands that they give up Manbij and leave for the Euphrates (I drew a line) - nothing more. And it’s rather a bluff. For on the other side of the United States has a permanent official presence. And until the Sultan persuades - to curtail American posts and transfer them to the Euphrates, no one will fight there.

[Uryukc]

Thanks for the detailed answer.

[Genry]

Quote: donavi49

Not those. These generally from the beginning of the war +/- sit on the priest exactly.

Those, those ... The boundaries there are conditional, i.e. transparent. And they sit there exactly, that there is nothing fat to snatch there. All the fat behind the Euphrates.

[protoss]

finally, the Athenian participated in the raccoon and they went there in organized columns through the pink territory

[donavi49]

Sending an honorary company to help comrades is a bit different from what was meant by storming Raqqi.

[Hierarch]

Quote: Chertt

Quote: Ierarh

Kurds end. But Millerov’s pipe will be through Turkey

What are you slippery

What's the matter? The pipe is not yours.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ierarh

The pipe is not yours.

Our pipe, Russian.

[Simon]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Reasonable step on their part. The Russian military invited the Kurds to occupy the territory of Assad before the Turkish invasion, but they turned out citing that they were independent and would deal with the Turks themselves. So the Russian military has nothing more to do there.

Yes, the Kurds made a big mistake! They need to go faster under Assad’s wing, then the Turks will definitely stop. They will not fight Assad.

[LSA57]

Quote: Simon

Ah, the Kurds made a big mistake! They need to go faster under Assad’s wing, then the Turks will definitely stop.

pride jammed, hoping for the striped

[flicker]

I wonder if the Kurds have come to what the result of cooperation with the United States?
There were few examples of them (Georgia under Saakashvili — lost a part of its territories, Ukraine — is ending its existence), and now the turn has reached the Kurds. The next will be Israel.

[bald]

In the beginning, Turkey warned Russia about the withdrawal of its people from Afrin (we will bomb). Infa slipped that they say are gone. Then the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation refute our conclusion from Afrin (yesterday it was). And today they say that it has already been relocated to the Tell Adjar region. What kind of "loves does not love" - ​​not seriously.

[Genry]

Quote: bald

What kind of "loves does not love" - ​​not seriously.

This is a political conversation: we made an offer (to the Kurds), they twisted their noses - ours went back and forth.

[bald]

Poor Syria, got into - whoever wants to comes, is fighting - as if it were a public training ground. And there are more than a dozen participants. This is all an enemy voice - the machinations of these same!

[Hierarch]

Quote: Muvka

So, I’ll just remind you that a controlling stake in Gazprom is in the hands of the state.

Yes of course. But only 13% of the revenue goes to the budget ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Ierarh

But only 13% of the revenue goes to the budget ...

Tyu-yu-yu-yuyu ... confused with income, apparently ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ierarh

But only 13% of the revenue goes to the budget ...

And about export duties, income tax, VAT, nothing is written in your training manual? The curators have a fat minus.

[Hierarch]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Ierarh

But only 13% of the revenue goes to the budget ...

Tyu-yu-yu-yuyu ... confused with income, apparently ...

Tyuyuyuyu ... So he is for everyone ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Ierarh

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Ierarh

But only 13% of the revenue goes to the budget ...

Tyu-yu-yu-yuyu ... confused with income, apparently ...

Tyuyuyuyu ... So he is for everyone ...

Someone here does not understand the hints.
Yes, "he" is for everyone. Only "he" is not the only tax. Far "not"

[PalBor]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Ierarh

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Ierarh

But only 13% of the revenue goes to the budget ...

Tyu-yu-yu-yuyu ... confused with income, apparently ...

Tyuyuyuyu ... So he is for everyone ...

Someone here does not understand the hints.
Yes, "he" is for everyone. Only "he" is not the only tax. Far "not"

Yeah another tax on production, export duties, insurance, etc. In the 16th, almost 2 trillion.

[voyaka uh]

These communist Kurds have no friends. America is not friends with them, Russia threw them.

[cniza]

Quote: voyaka uh

Russia threw them.

And what did Russia promise them, guarantee?

[voyaka uh]

According to the agreements in Asan, it introduced "peacekeeping forces," as soon as the Turks began the operation, quickly "relocated" them. Piled down, in short.

[cniza]

What peacekeeping forces You are confusing something, this is the area of ​​responsibility of Turkey.

[Cartalon]

The Kurds in the zone of responsibility of Turkey are dead Kurds, there were ours and left leaving the Kurds for slaughter, Russia threw the Kurds quite normally, now they know you can’t believe the Russians.

[user1212]

Quote: Cartalon

Kurds in Turkey’s area of ​​responsibility are dead Kurds

So they live dead in Turkey?

Quote: Cartalon

there were ours and left leaving the Kurds for slaughter, Russia threw the Kurds quite normally, now they know you can’t believe the Russians.

Why should Russia fight for Kurdish independence?

[vovanpain]

Quote: Cartalon

there were ours and left leaving the Kurds for slaughter, Russia threw the Kurds quite normally

Yes really

Quote: Inok10

or rather, this is the first lesson for them ... from two evils, you need to choose the lesser ... on the proposal of the Kurds to resume the activities of the Syrian local authorities, Assad suggested only two conditions:
- input contingent CAA
- resumption of activity in this territory Mukhabarat (security service of the ATS)
... The Kurds refused ... the result is in person ... I hope the lesson will go to good ... our "fit" will not and Assad, too

Well, if you yourself do it yourself, Colleague-Inok10 posted a post for everyone.

Quote: voyaka uh

America is not friends with them, Russia threw them

It’s necessary to read everything. Alexei Batkovich. For you I’ll specially repeat it: - “they wanted to, let’s do it yourself”

[Varna]

Quote: voyaka uh

According to the agreements in Asan, it introduced "peacekeeping forces," as soon as the Turks began the operation, quickly "relocated" them. Piled down, in short.

No matter how much he searched for the text of the “agreement” in Astana between the Athens Kurds and Russia, he did not find it.
Maybe you’ve got a copy somewhere, huh? Where, probably in black and white it says something like:
"We are from the Ruskago clan: Vladimir - Long Caliber, ruler of all Russia; Shoigu Savior, Dmitry Ayfonov Locum Tenens, Rogozin - Satellites - Not Good, Matvienko None - For What Not - Answerer and other words and guests: We kiss the cross and give the tooth - but we will protect the good fellows, Afrikaans from the Turkish Basurmans, we will not regret the last Russian peasants, we will send them to death, but we will achieve freedom and independence for the Free Kurdistan "- this is about the text, right?
Ah no, it turns out there are no such texts, right?
Well then let the Kurds somehow get their freedom themselves, it’s generally not accepted to give it (freedom), they conquer it and do not count on good uncles.
Moreover, Russia is not an uncle to the Kurds, and not even an aunt.
If it’s without a banter, then of course it’s sad in Afrin, I understand very well, I myself used to run around my hometown under bullets and mines and I can regret the Kurds - purely at a distance - but I don’t think for a second that we owe them something - ourselves , boys, yourself, nobody owes you anything, and certainly Russia does not.

[Varna]

Oh, as you beautifully wrote too - "threw".
This is planet Earth - here everyone throws each other.

[Hierarch]

Quote: voyaka uh

These communist Kurds have no friends. America is not friends with them, Russia threw them.

America is throwing everyone. And you will be thrown if it becomes profitable ...

[voyaka uh]

So far, Russia has "thrown" the Kurdish comrades of the Communists.

[user1212]

Quote: voyaka uh

So far, Russia has "thrown" the Kurdish comrades of the Communists

But does Russia owe these comrades something? They didn’t recognize Assad, sort of. There was only a ceasefire, so neither we nor the Syrian army are hilling them

[axenm]

Looks nice, paired:

19 January, 21: 24
Lavrov: reports on the withdrawal of the Russian military in Afrin were refuted
http://tass.ru/politika/4888098

20 January, 18: 30
Russian Defense Ministry: Russian military transferred from Afrin region due to start of Turkish operation
http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4889273?utm_source=tw
itter.com & utm_medium = social & utm_campaign =
smm_social_share

In general, it’s interesting to watch the hysteria of the Dudaev bots when Putin’s sitting in the bushes and the frank and cynical bargaining of his entourage with NATO countries can’t be hidden by anything))

[Hierarch]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Ierarh

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Ierarh

But only 13% of the revenue goes to the budget ...

Tyu-yu-yu-yuyu ... confused with income, apparently ...

Tyuyuyuyu ... So he is for everyone ...

Someone here does not understand the hints.
Yes, "he" is for everyone. Only "he" is not the only tax. Far "not"

Well, in more detail ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Ierarh

Well, in more detail ...

Here is a “clean for example” picture:

 Here it is

http://ir.gazprom-neft.ru/ru/key-data/macroeconom
ics / taxation /

Follow the link, learn a lot of new things

[Yujanin.]

And the Armenian radio before that insisted that the Russian army did not leave Afrin. So who to believe?

[Brut]

Again, the Armenians are to blame for everything?

[mavrus]

Quote: Ierarh

Kurds end. But the Millerov Pipe will be through Turkey. I wonder how much this gang has already stolen from the pipe ...

Maybe the end, or maybe not. It was in Iraq that the Kurds did not dare to do anything serious against the Iraqi army and the coalition led by the USA, but with the Turks a different alignment ... The Kurds will depart from the border, but if the Turks go further, then ... "the grandmother said in two."

[voyaka uh]

I’m not sure that the Turks will win. Erdogan with his purges (mini-1937 year) greatly weakened the army. The best officers are fired or arrested. The Air Force is generally halved.
They attacked ISIS very uncertainly. It was evident that the army was "not in the mood."

[Lenivets2]

"The best officers are fired or arrested."
Are the best ones right?
As not cleaning, so only the best and destroy!
Here do not care the enemy - not the enemy, the best means to be shot.
What a rock that is!

[protoss]

they attacked the Ishil and at the same time negotiated with the Ishilians, since contacts have been developed for years.

[Hierarch]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Ierarh

Well, in more detail ...

Here is a “clean for example” picture:

 Here it is

http://ir.gazprom-neft.ru/ru/key-data/macroeconom
ics / taxation /

Follow the link, learn a lot of new things

Well, and you don’t pay all this? Equal with Miller however ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Ierarh

Well, you're native ...

ABOUT! Yes, my relatives started here !!

Quote: Ierarh

Quote: Muvka

... a controlling stake in Gazprom is in the hands of the state.

Yes of course. But only 13% of the revenue goes to the budget ...

What are you talking about? Native
Wrap around in silence ... only 13%

[Svarog51]

Novel, Why feed the troll? You give him information, but he is rude instead of “thank you”. Let him seek. By the way, you need to demand a fee from him for the info, then you have completed the robot.

[Golovan Jack]

Sergey,
Yes, I'm here, this ... dabble in plush

[Svarog51]

Yes, I'm here, this ... dabble in plush

The main thing is to remain moderately well-fed man. Buns - they are very nutritious.

[Livonetc]

Quote: voyaka uh

These communist Kurds have no friends. America is not friends with them, Russia threw them.

Exactly.
Throw through the thigh.
For the balancing position on several chairs is not the most stable.
Now Russia does not guarantee them anything.
In the case, the Turkish partners of the eastern coalition.

[Hierarch]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Ierarh

Well, you're native ...

ABOUT! Yes, my relatives started here !!

Quote: Ierarh

Quote: Muvka

... a controlling stake in Gazprom is in the hands of the state.

Yes of course. But only 13% of the revenue goes to the budget ...

What are you talking about? Native
Wrap around in silence ... only 13%

Do not read in Russian?
Yes, wrap it around you. You pay the same as Mr. Miller. Wrap around ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Ierarh

You pay the same as Mr. Miller

(lazy, yawning): well, that’s sideways ... I don’t sell gas ...
Go ... they don’t serve here

[Lenivets2]

"Yes, of course. But only 13% of the revenue goes to the budget ..."
They clearly explained to you that you lied.
So that you turn around like a bug in a pan, look for Miller’s relatives, get personal ...
Are you a troll?

[mavrus]

Quote: bald

In the beginning, Turkey warned Russia about the withdrawal of its people from Afrin (we will bomb). Infa slipped that they say are gone. Then the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation refute our conclusion from Afrin (yesterday it was). And today they say that it has already been relocated to the Tell Adjar region. What kind of "loves does not love" - ​​not seriously.

And you propose to indicate the exact coordinates of our military, online, during the hostilities? This is so that enemy intelligence does not bother much?

[Radical]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Quote: Ierarh

But the Millerov Pipe will be through Turkey. I wonder how much this gang has already stolen from the pipe ...

Write to the prosecutor. They won’t help you here. .

There all the more ...

[Vita vko]

I really liked the formulation of the purpose of the operation "Olive Branch"

saving the brotherly people from terrorist oppression

And without any UN sanction. In connection with the activation of Bandera in the Donbass, the adoption by the Rada of the next law to untie the hands of war criminals and the supply of American weapons, it would be logical to apply such arguments to protect our people from genocide not only in the Donbass, but throughout Eastern Ukraine, which was illegally transferred to it during the years Soviet power.

[Hierarch]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Ierarh

You pay the same as Mr. Miller

(lazy, yawning): well, that’s sideways ... I don’t sell gas ...
Go ... they don’t serve here

Yes, it’s clear. You don’t trade gas, but you pay those percentages that Miller ...

[Vadim237]

But the difference is millions of rubles in taxes.

[Hierarch]

Quote: Lenivets2

"Yes, of course. But only 13% of the revenue goes to the budget ..."
They clearly explained to you that you lied.
So that you turn around like a bug in a pan, look for Miller’s relatives, get personal ...
Are you a troll?

What are you saying?

[Lenivets2]

Yes, that's what I said.
So what?

[Gardamir]

And so the betrayal is justified. Afrin is a region of Syria and no Turks have the right to be there. And one more question. What are Russian troops doing in Syria? They said that they protect Assad. but if asked. then evacuate.
And then the gentlemen are self-guilty. The Turks paid permission to pull the south stream for the opportunity to bomb Afrin. by sea. about the land have not yet agreed. Who then will betray? ..

[Michael HORNET]

Kurds Afrin are communists. That says it all.

[Lenivets2]

"So the betrayal is justified."
Betrayal of whom?
Show me the agreements that we concluded with the Kurds.
And we did not betray the Martians?
Well, they may exist, so we betrayed them.
"Afrin is a region of Syria"
If this is the region of Syria, then which margin Kurds are not allowed in by Assad and Syrian officials?
"And another question. What are Russian troops doing in Syria?"
Have you heard anything about interstate agreements between Russia and Syria?

[Cheldon]

In Turkey, the degree of love for the military just rolls over. Imagine if you are flying with the flag “Father of a soldier”, even for traffic violations traffic cops will not stop you, or if you are a military pensioner or an active soldier, then there are special hotels for you. Deductions from the Renault factory go to the account of the Turkish Ministry of Defense. Therefore, to prove that this is not in vain and that it is necessary to draw the armed forces into hostilities.

[Zomanus]

So let's see what the Americans managed to supply the Kurds with during this time.
Was there news about MANPADS transmitted by the Americans?
So there may be other means.

[Nikolai Passerby]

Erdogan acts in his own interests, without looking back at the United States or Russia. The USA will not begin to harness directly to the Athenian Kurds loyal to Assad, and Russia has no real forces there to prevent Turkey ... Nobody asks Assad.

[Polite Moose]

the operation of the Turkish army "Olive branch" began at 17.00 Moscow time.

From ancient times, the olive branch was awarded to the winner. Can Erdogan be more modest when choosing names for an operation. Victory over the Kurds, in any case an easy victory, is written with a pitchfork on water. The chicken is still in the nest, and .... already the "Olive Branch". An optimist, however ...

[Svarog51]

Alexander

From ancient times, the olive branch was awarded to the winner.

Well, besides this, the olive branch was used to attract the attention of the enemy and to end hostilities, with the aim of expelling the parliament. It served as an analogue of a white flag, we have a strain here with olive trees.

[Polite Moose]

Sergei! My regards!

Quote: Svarog51

Well, besides this, the olive branch was used to attract the attention of the enemy and end hostilities,

It is unlikely that Erdogan started a military operation "to attract the attention of the enemy and stop the database." The “Palm Branch” of course sounds pathetic, but the Turks are not the only ones who like to give high-profile names to their actions. Our Turkish friend (almost a brother) would not run into a retaliatory military organization under the name, for example, "Enduring Democracy." As a result of which this palm branch may be in his ... in general, anywhere. There, every day, the water becomes cloudier and cloudier. Erdogan needs to be careful. Be careful. We still pump gas through it in Europe.

[Svarog51]

Alexander Yes, I just added information for the use of the branch.

Our Turkish friend would not run into

Here in this case just. It’s easy to start a war - stopping is much harder.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Svarog51

Yes, I just added information for the use of the branch.

Everything in the East is so confused there ... If you call the olive branch VO, give it up as a prisoner, give it up. In Russia, I see only one application for her - it is convenient for her to brush off mosquitoes. And about

Quote: Svarog51

It’s easy to start a war - stopping is much harder.

Absolutely agree. I’ll also add that some people need to carefully choose their opponent. Impulsive action in such matters is fraught with consequences. It seems to me that with the Podpinsky Kurds, this "someone" will firmly stick "in the legs with fat."

[Svarog51]

Alexander, with the second part

I absolutely agree.

But in the first

In Russia, I see only one application for her - it is convenient for her to brush off mosquitoes.

it’s not very, it’s easy to bungle a birch broom, here with olives - I only saw them in banks in the store. and then, there are only fruits, twigs do not come across.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Svarog51

I only saw them in banks in the store. request and then, there are only fruits, branches do not come across. recourse

Do you think I'm drowning a stove with olive wood? I had to fry a barbecue on cypress coals a couple of times, but somehow it did not grow together with the olives. I ate them sometimes. The most remembered came in 2010. on the market in Yalta. They differed from cans, like cod liver from Poroshenko liver.

[Svarog51]

The most remembered came in 2010. on the market in Yalta.

It’s lucky, I saw the sea in 1980 and I don’t know if I will see it again.

[tosha.chuhontzev]

The prestige of Russia in Syria after this news will fall steadily. German media reported that Russia will demand from Turkey the cessation of Operation Olive Branch. Everything is going according to the American plan: Erdogan was lured into a Kurdish mousetrap, and Russia is discredited and loses its moral right to be a peaceful mediator in Syria.

[Lenivets2]

Are you serious?
What do Kurds have to do with Russia's prestige?
Have we ever committed ourselves to protecting them?
Chot I do not remember this.
But the fact that the Kurds for Assad is a problem no less than ISIS, I recall that.

[Maz]

Quote: Svarog51

Roman, welcome

Gunman?

I will offer my option - Gan Top he.

Hanzad

[Svarog51]

As in my version, the word is from two languages. Do not take root.

[Maz]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Reasonable step on their part. The Russian military invited the Kurds to occupy the territory of Assad before the Turkish invasion, but they turned out citing that they were independent and would deal with the Turks themselves. So the Russian military has nothing more to do there.

The same complaints as Ukrainian wiseacres. Well, the Ottomans right now will teach them to love their homeland, not dollars.

[iouris]

Has the Turkish Ministry of Defense ordered?

[tosha.chuhontzev]

Quote: Lenivets2

Are you serious?
What do Kurds have to do with Russia's prestige?
Have we ever committed ourselves to protecting them?
Chot I do not remember this.
But the fact that the Kurds for Assad is a problem no less than ISIS, I recall that.

Frankly, it’s ridiculous for me to read all these discussions on Military Review. Surprising is the strange superficiality of judgment. The simplest logic appears in my words. 1-Russia guarantees Assad a power, which, incidentally, is illegitimate. 2- In this case, Assad is obliged to repulse the Turks, who have tritely violated the Syrian border sovereignty, which the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs is so tedious about in any and every way. These two points are already enough, to talk about the complete loss of a peacekeeping face by Russia. Putin has long been synchronously repeating American politics, divide and conquer. This is disgusting to the Russian heart, and Russian economic pants are too short for such a policy.

[Georgievic]

And besides the hearts of Russians, there is also reason, do not sit in your sled! Assad himself will deal with the Kurds and the Turks!

[tosha.chuhontzev]

Quote: Georgievic

And besides the hearts of Russians, there is also reason, do not sit in your sled! Assad himself will deal with the Kurds and the Turks!

Sometimes I think, reading such remarks, that CIA agents are sitting here.