Russia supplied armored vehicles and ammunition to Azerbaijan

Press office Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan reports that the party received weapons from the Russian Federation under the previously concluded contract. From published message:

According to the intergovernmental agreement between the Republic of Azerbaijan and the Russian Federation, the delivery of modern Russian-made military equipment to Azerbaijan continues in accordance with the plan.

The equipment, as stated, was delivered to the port of Baku by sea from Astrakhan by the vessel “Composer Rakhmaninov”. What kind of weapons delivered to the Azerbaijani capital, can be seen on the video frames:

With this material, the press service of the Republic of Azerbaijan contains a rather provocative statement that the latest Russian-made equipment "will be sent to military units deployed on the front line as soon as possible."

Against this background, messages about the death of an Azerbaijani soldier come from Baku. Information Service Aze.az reports the name of the soldier. This is Ibrahim Manafov. He died in a shootout in the Nagorno-Karabakh region.

Comments

[garnik]

A strategic ally will be killed from these weapons.

[Herculesic]

Then why did they sell, or forget that it was military equipment and ammunition that was being sold? ???

[Normal ok]

Quote: Herkulesich

Then why did they sell, or forget that it was military equipment and ammunition that was being sold? ???

Nothing personal - just a business. Let them fight themselves, and we will earn money. Everything is like the "partners".

[Evgeniy667b]

In the Kremlin, well, everything is according to Lavrov-greed and DB!

[genisis]

These are deliveries under previously concluded contracts.
There have been no new contracts for the supply of military equipment between the Russian Federation and Azerbaijan since Putin replaced Medvedev as president of the Russian Federation.

[Yujanin.]

Military cooperation ceased not because of a change in the leadership of the Russian Federation, but because Russian politicians openly declare that they are arming the Armenians through Azerbaijani contracts.

[genisis]

Well, of course - you refused to buy it, and not the Russian Federation refused to sell you. Especially from the aircraft you refused, which is already asking for a year)))

[Yujanin.]

Perhaps you are right about the fighter account. Russia until the last moment did not intend to sell us combat aircraft. And the reason for this refusal is far from the Karabakh issue. But in any case I'm sure this nuance will very soon find its solution. Surely there are sellers, there would be money. I won’t be surprised if Russia becomes the supplier of this equipment.

[genisis]

In fact, your Pakistani friends still cannot sell you the JF-17.
But Turkey simply does not know how to build aircraft

[Yujanin.]

In fact, your Pakistani friends still cannot sell you the JF-17.

The purchase of military aircraft is not an easy issue. We need to consider all the details. Such as training, spare parts, service, weapons, maintenance, etc. Otherwise, on the example of Gaddafi, you can fly over Paris.

[genisis]

The purchase of military aircraft is particularly complicated by the fact that those who would gladly sell do not have such an opportunity. And those who have the opportunity are not at all eager to sell. Why does Russia sell modern fighters to Kazakhstan, but does not sell to Azerbaijan?

[Yujanin.]

Why does Russia sell modern fighters to Kazakhstan, but does not sell to Azerbaijan?

Baku did not like the export-sale option offered by the Russian Federation. But that was until yesterday. Today's realities dictate to Russia a completely different approach. Well, you understand what I mean!

[Yujanin.]

The purchase of military aircraft is particularly complicated by the fact that those who would gladly sell do not have such an opportunity.

This question is already relevant for Russia, more precisely for its future customers.

[Archon]

Well, as an ally? Rather, a partner. There is no money for an ally in Russia.
I do not think that there will be a serious something, although a very significant purchase.

[Incvizitor]

Well, it’s unlikely that they will conquer the Armenians

[Observer2014]

garnik

A strategic ally will be killed from these weapons.

Come on you "kill a strategic ally." Also think of it here. This ally has not yet been caught up in Sochi

[garnik]

Check out the history of Sochi. Mostly Hamshen Armenians live there.

[Observer2014]

garnik

Check out the history of Sochi. Mostly Hamshen Armenians live there.

In general, it’s violet-black. I know one who and how long before the earthquake in Armenia lived in Sochi. Wake up to tell fiction in his historical homeland Not in Russia. And also teach there about the friendship of peoples. And from us Russians will stop talking about this nonsense in Russia. tearful about a common victory, etc. You drove the Russians out in the late 80s. And those poor fellows who remained in your republics. You need to take them to the citizenship of the Russian Federation for a long time. They are hostages there. Do not forget that you now live with us. A then everyone here tells where the Russians in Russia live.

[Romulus]

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garnik
Check out the history of Sochi. Mostly Hamshen Armenians live there.
Generally purple-black.

"love" and "dryjba" yeah ...

[Observer2014]

Romulus

"love" and drujba aha ...

Like in Europe. I, in Germany, saved the Poles from the Germans. And in France. In Paris, two Germans from the frazuzov. The case was. Everything is normal. And if these arguments are about who lived where to live. Everywhere the cygans should live

[garnik]

Do you have something to remember about 80 years. And what do you know about Russian refugees from Armenia? It remains to hear from you the slogan "Russia for the Russians" Everything is clear with you.
We are all guests in this world.

[igor1981]

Quote: garnik

It remains to hear from you the slogan "Russia for the Russians" Everything is clear with you.
We are all guests in this world.

Well, why only for the Russians. And also for those peoples whose historical territory is part of the Russian Federation. These are Tatars, Bashkirs, Chukchi, Ossetians, Chuvashs and many many others. And something I do not observe a republic like Armenia as part of the Russian Federation. Of course, I’m shy to ask - Why is this already half of Armenia moved to Russia? In the Krasnodar Territory there are already several hundred thousand Armenians. Live and develop your country, you wanted independence - you got it. In my city, in the Federal Migration Service, there are simply crowds of Armenians handing over documents for obtaining Russian citizenship under a simplified procedure, like compatriots. And these "compatriots" are far from the best. This, frankly, is already starting to strain ...

[Yujanin.]

garnik

Check out the history of Sochi. Mostly Hamshen Armenians live there.

Hachkars managed to bury at least?

[garnik]

What are you for? It’s true to destroy you closer action for the soul ..
Look at the wiki.

[garnik]

In 1998, valiant askers destroyed about 800 tombstones. Even Iran protested, and these shootings were conducted from the Iranian side.
Until 2003, about 2000 monuments remained, which were also demolished, and the slabs were removed.

[Yujanin.]

Yes, Tehran has stated that they are seriously worried about the fate of the Armenian hachkars previously handed down from Iran.

[garnik]

Au.Admins, what a mess. My comment, and the link of the opponent. Where is my video from YouTube?

[garnik]

Admins, thanks.

[Yujanin.]

Look at the wiki.

There are also a lot of interesting information about hachkar in YouTube.

[garnik]

Iran’s concern is on Wiki.
Only the statues of the great Heydar can compete with the number of cross stones in Russia.
And to protest against the stone-cross in the vastness of Christian Russia can a narrow-minded person or an Islamist.

[Yujanin.]

a foolish man or an Islamist can protest against a stone cross in the vastness of Christian Russia.

Or a person who learns from the mistakes of others.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: garnik

A strategic ally will be killed from these weapons.

Well, no one has killed anyone yet .. Russia I remember 100 tanks put to Azerbaijan (for a good price) looked beautiful in the parades and Aliyev threatened Armenia like Guderian of Russia ..)))
And this is still funny ..

that the latest Russian-made equipment "will be sent as soon as possible to military units deployed on the front line."

The Armenians will have to wait a long time, with grenade launchers and snipers of the Azerbaijani military on armored vehicles ..
Again, the parade will soon be seen in Baku .. heh heh
Well sold, what are we worse than Israel? If they pay .. Everything is brilliant and beautiful!

[voyaka uh]

Together, Russia and Israel will turn the army of Azerbaijan into a formidable force!
Here is an example of cooperation between our two countries

[Observer2014]

voyaka uh

Together, Russia and Israel will turn the army of Azerbaijan into a formidable force!
Here is an example of cooperation between our two countries

I agree. And let Sochi free

[Brut]

Quote: voyaka uh

Together, Russia and Israel will turn the army of Azerbaijan into a formidable force!

And why in the future tense? You’ve been doing this for years ... doesn’t work?

[garnik]

Vitaly, well, all of this is wrong, it should not be so. People with protests will come out in Armenia tomorrow and start a wave here, they say the Armenians are traitors, they forgot how they saved them from the Ottomans (they didn’t leave a single inch of Armenian land behind them, but, on the contrary, they distributed them to two Turkish entities.)
I am sure that conflicting thoughts have also appeared among the Russians, but who will say it out loud?
If Russia did not sell weapons to the aggressor, then the Jews are unlikely to do so. And Russia also has the opportunity to ban arming the warring parties.

[siberalt]

Armenia supplied Iskander to Russia, so what? Let them fight, only our sheep on arms deliveries will grow. But both this and that, we are like friends! Everything goes on Marx.

[newcomer]

“Let them fight ...“. ingenious conclusion, bravo.

[Maz]

Who is this strategic ally? Armenia? Do not make me laugh. And how much money did we invest in them? A sense. Again, give and write off debts.

[newcomer]

if the RA was not a strategic ally, the base didn’t stand there and the FSB border guards did not guard the border of the Republic of Armenia. do you know a lot of non-allies who can have such a relationship with yourself

[garnik]

Today, probably the Turks strats. an ally, and tomorrow .... And how much money did they invest? Officially, Russia Armenia did not write off a cent.

[Brut]

Quote: Maz

And how much money did we invest in them? A sense. Again, give and write off debts.

But really, how much?
Apparently, it is right to invest in Turkey, to build a nuclear power plant for 20 billion dollars (payback for a downed plane?).
The Russian Federation has never written off the debts of Armenia.

[Alber]

Quote: Brut

The Russian Federation has never written off the debts of Armenia.

and never helped?
especially after the earthquake ...
but I've seen thousands of compositions !! not wagons, but trains constantly going to Armenia with container houses equipped with the latest technology, trains with equipment, tens of thousands of builders rebuilding Armenia with Russian money ...
and hundreds of thousands of “Armenian refugees” hanging around the clock in restaurants, cafes, bars in Moscow, drinking expensive cognac, eating cans of black caviar, eating red fish, scattering bundles of money ...
then it was impossible to drive them out of Moscow when they rebuilt Armenia. everyone demanded an apartment in Moscow as refugees. About 5 million moved to Russia and notice where it is warm - Kuban, Stavropol, Rostov, and of course Moscow!

[garnik]

The whole world helped and for some reason the French were the first. It is not necessary to write about restaurants. I have many relatives who fled from Baku, believe me, some washed the porches at night so that they would not be seen. Thank God they are doing well. Armenians usually settled where there is a large diaspora. Well, if Chechens settle in the Stavropol region, as is already happening, then everything will be as it should. In your free time, read how the Armenian villages appeared on the territories listed by you and why the Russian Empire was needed.
A little bit, the figure is 5 mill. does not match the real one.

[Cheldon]

What is strategic?

[Black_Vatnik]

A strategic ally will be killed from these weapons.

A strategic ally is pledged to NATO - the most important thing to eat is Russia's strategic enemy.
By the way, did the strategic ally of Armenia somehow help its strategic ally of Russia in the Syrian operation? At least one plane was sent with an Armenian pilot? Well, there, in the framework of the CSTO, for example.

[garnik]

Belarus and Kazakhstan are acting with NATO, until recently, Russia itself.
But how to help Russia in Syria, if he had previously sold offensive weapons to the enemy of his ally. Who will be in the trenches, because no one guarantees peace.
The humanitarian aid was sent. There are enough of their Syrian Armenians in Assad’s troops. I have already posted a link about the howling Armenians in Syria.

[Black_Vatnik]

Belarus and Kazakhstan are acting with NATO, until recently, Russia itself.

This is such a chip - immediately transfer to others?
I don’t want to answer for myself at all?
Until recently, to what? What joint exercises were conducted by Russia and NATO?

But how to help Russia in Syria, if he had previously sold offensive weapons to the enemy of his ally. Who will be in the trenches, because no one guarantees peace.

I wrote to you above how to help. In fact, help, and not morally, and not seek excuses for inaction.

The humanitarian aid was sent. There are enough of their Syrian Armenians in Assad’s troops. I have already posted a link about the howling Armenians in Syria.

Stewed stewed fruit is certainly cool. It helps our guys who pour blood in a state located 300 km from Armenia.
Syrian Armenians and Syrian Armenians in order to have such an attitude towards Armenia. Instead, official Armenia sends soldiers to Romania to "cooperate" with NATO

In fact (namely, in fact, and not in words), Azerbaijan is no less a strategic partner for Russia than Armenia, but it is not so expensive.

[RUSS]

Quote: garnik

Belarus and Kazakhstan are acting with NATO, until recently, Russia itself.
But how to help Russia in Syria, if he had previously sold offensive weapons to the enemy of his ally. Who will be in the trenches, because no one guarantees peace.
The humanitarian aid was sent. There are enough of their Syrian Armenians in Assad’s troops. I have already posted a link about the howling Armenians in Syria.

You are Georgians, and why are you so keen on Armenians?

[garnik]

I am Armenian. Avatar, flag of the kingdom of Cilicia.

[Zaurbek]

Which beer brewed ...

[RUSS]

Quote: garnik

I am Armenian. Avatar, flag of the kingdom of Cilicia.

So, what’s the result of Saakashvili’s flag for Georgia?

[garnik]

This freak has Armenian "roots". Perhaps he was familiar with the history of Armenia.

[Varna]

Quote: garnik

A strategic ally will be killed from these weapons.

Firstly, it is not clear why Russia needs to lie with its bones for a strategic ally who not so long ago (about 25 years ago) gladly blew us into sovereign swimming.
Secondly, yes, a strategic ally who (specifically Armenia) receives weapons from the Russian Federation at prices similar to those for the Russian army; that is, almost at cost. Azerbaijan pays full commercial value - including profit grew. military man. prom. Due to this profit, Russia compensates for the reduced price for armaments for the Armenian Armed Forces (since most enterprises of the Russian military industry are state-owned).
Thus, Armenians can laugh out of this situation: the armament of Armenia is partially paid by Azerbaijan.

[Brut]

Quote: Varna

Thus, Armenians can laugh out of this situation: the armament of Armenia is partially paid by Azerbaijan.

And this is really not a joke at all.
It would be necessary to agree on the same with the Jews.

[Non liberoid Russian]

what do you want? sit in Georgia, drink mineral water, lick the back of the United States and the EU ...

[Berkut24]

A strategic ally will be killed from these weapons.

1) Azerbaijan will not fight with this, and with any other weapons with Armenia. Armenia is a member of the CSTO, which means Baku will have to fight with Russia. There are many fools, but not to such an extent. Moreover, Russia compensates sales to Azerbaijan by sales of Armenia. Double profit.
2) The use of these weapons in Karabakh is quite possible. But in relation to Karabakh, Russia has a neutral position - everyone there awoke, both Armenians and Azerbaijanis. The conflict has no military solution, and a political solution is possible only with the participation of Russia. Political profit is also on the face. The fact that Azerbaijanis are the most offended in this situation is a fact. But the supply of weapons to them allows us not to quarrel with them completely.

[garnik]

I understand the Russian side. She cannot take sides, otherwise she will lose one of them. Even the cessation of exclusion between the parties is not beneficial for Russia, the same thing will happen i.e. the parties will finally be determined who are for and against Russia. And so that
there was no choice, it was necessary to ruin Turkey, as they tried to do under imperial Russia.

[Stiletto_711]

Quote: garnik

strategic ally

So, let's see the list of strategic allies of Russia ...
- army
- the fleet.
Hmm, there is no Armenia, a mistake came out

[garnik]

Still, they missed the Russian Aerospace Forces.

[Herculesic]

And where does the "legal statement", or under the contract, our equipment can be used only for exercises and parades? We sold and delivered, and what Azerbaijan will do next with it is not our concern! After all, the equipment was bought for war!

[Gardamir]

What additional supplies to the Turks?

[Observer2014]

Amyans! Is there anyone on the site? Are you happy for the news?

[Yarik]

It’s interesting, and Kirya-pop the supreme GDP will say something, after all, Christians. They are there on a short leg. Vova seems to have believed, bathed and all that .... I believe that grace has descended, again will be the father of the nation and the guarantor.

[Varna]

Quote: Yarik

It’s interesting, and Kirya-pop the supreme GDP will say something, after all, Christians. They are there on a short leg. Vova seems to have believed, bathed and all that .... I believe that grace has descended, again will be the father of the nation and the guarantor.

I see that you and Vladimir Vladimirovich already drank at the Brudershaft, you call him Vova. Something I do not remember such a photo: GDP, Patriarch Kirill and ... Yarik. Perhaps you deigned to forget to present it to us. In vain. Enchanting would be a photo.

[Yarik]

I hope very much that at best this is the person, the very one with whom the Brudershaft will soon be remembered. But there are no pictures, here you are absolutely right. not preserved.

[Non liberoid Russian]

type witty? but in fact it’s silly, as always

[newcomer]

you are already having fun as I look. the relation my_ three with a minus. My opinion has been heard more than once: all the same, Azerbaijan will buy, it’s better if it is from the Russian Federation. There is one plus: RA is always aware of the armaments of Azerbaijanis.

[Smog]

Quote: newbie

All the same, Azerbaijan will buy, so it’s better to let it be from the Russian Federation.

All right! Well, they’d buy from the Turks, or from someone else. So what? Would this make it easier for the Armenians? Is not a fact.

[garnik]

Oh ... oh, of course, as well as the DNR gifts to Bandera from the United States and other countries.

[Okolotochny]

Garnik, whose platoon participated in NATO exercises? Isn't it Armenian? When did VO begin to talk about what you are doing? An answer was received from your compatriots - it’s like a deliberate thing, they pay money for it. I am about the same. This is for nothing and they pay money for it.

[garnik]

And that exercises with NATO are prohibited by the CSTO charter. If not, then what is the problem.
Armenia cannot watch indifferently how the allies are arming the enemy, and at the same time hear, well, if we don’t sell, then others will sell. Once again, Russia is able to ban the sale of weapons to the “hot” region, which is in the zone of its interests. For this reason, the Armenians looking for an alternative, or command meekly to wait for another weapon to be handed over to them.

[Uryukc]

Quote: garnik

Russia is able to ban the sale of weapons to the "hot" region

The Russian Federation even Dill homeless successfully throw money. Vryatli our ban will act effectively, which of course is regrettable.

Quote: garnik

For this reason, Armenians are looking for an alternative.

An alternative would also not hurt us, for example, Azerbaijan.

Quote: garnik

meekly wait for another weapon to be handed over to them on loan.

Do you count on gifts? But what about the proud "independence"))

[garnik]

[quoteWe would also use an alternative, Azerbaijan for example.] [/ quote]
Armenians began to resort to an alternative, after all the same alternative policies of Russia.

Do you count on gifts? But what about the proud "independence"))

Not. Armenians count on allied relations. And who is not addicted?

[Okolotochny]

And everything is simple - NATO's “partner” bloc, an adversary in Russian.

[Simon]

I'm interested, but how will things go with Armenia, amid the supply of arms to Azerbaijan, due to military operations in Karabakh?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Simon

and how will things go with Armenia, against the background of arms supplies to Azerbaijan

It is better.
After the first arms deliveries to Azerbaijan, the Armenians sharply changed their minds to sign an association agreement with the EU.

[Isstiqlal]

Quote: Spade

sharply changed their minds

They didn’t change their minds while the Comprehensive and Enhanced Partnership Agreement between Armenia and the EU was signed, the association agreement will be postponed.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Istiqlal

association agreement will be pending.

Until victory over Azerbaijan? 8)))

In general, the guys in Yerevan are quite interesting. None of the "allies" of Russia are trying to get on two chairs so defiantly. At the same time, experiencing such pride from his "prosperity"

[Isstiqlal]

Quote: Spade

Until victory over Azerbaijan? 8)))

not at all, while they receive more money and help from mother Russia, as soon as there is an advantage in favor of Europe ... well, you understand, yes

[Sergey Medvedev]

Quote: Spade

Don't try to sit on two chairs so defiantly.

Yanukovych tried ... Right now, something Nazarbayev does not learn from the mistakes of Yanukovych ...

[garnik]

Signed, though in a truncated version.

[Brut]

Quote: Spade

After the first arms deliveries to Azerbaijan, the Armenians sharply changed their minds to sign an association agreement with the EU.

Are you sure?

Quote: Spade

In general, the guys in Yerevan are quite interesting. None of Russia's “allies” are trying to settle in two chairs so defiantly.

Except for Russia itself?
Isn't the EU the largest (maybe second) trade partner of Russia?
Isn't Turkey a member of NATO?

[Alber]

Quote: Simon

I'm interested, but how will things go with Armenia, amid the supply of arms to Azerbaijan, due to military operations in Karabakh?

Armenians immediately wiser))) rudeness will decrease ...

[Bakht]

Russia's strategic ally

[purple]

Yes, you do not pull the identity on the ally .... even on the non-strategic .... Money does not smell easy, but people are fighting and not weapons.

[Bakht]

And we do not claim to be an ally. Small but still a difference ...

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Bakht

And we do not claim to be an ally.

I will express my opinion, maybe for some people a provocative opinion, but I think Russia’s mistake was to put only on the Armenians, everything had to be done so that Azerbaijan would not get closer to Turkey, especially when the pro-Turkish Elchibey left. Armenia is a withering country, the population is fleeing to Russia, Europe, America, soon there will be no one to protect Karabakh, the economy is shrinking, while Azerbaijan does not pretend to the territory of Armenia, it wants to return the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, which is legally its territory, and this is recognized by Russia . Azerbaijan’s mistake was to rush into the arms of Turkey, Russia was frightened of this, and put it on Armenia. Armenia is now intensely seeking allies in the West, Azerbaijan is an ally primarily of Turkey, and what is Russia? and Russia is arming both those and others, and who guess will be to blame for both of them?

[garnik]

At the expense of claiming to Armenia, you can listen to the Sultan from Absheron.
T.N. Azerbaijan was formed by the efforts of the Turks, once again leaving the Bolsheviks with nothing. And it is natural that some Turks will be drawn to others.
Against the background of such relations, when General Thomson was shocked, after a joint assault on the Turkish and, I will say so, Bolsheviks, against the Armenians. "I do not understand the Russians, the Armenians were allies yesterday, and now enemies."
What to do? And now the situation is similar. Well, if instead of the Turks there would be the same Kurds, you can understand. But saving and helping the Turks is suicide.

[Bakht]

"It's worse than a crime - it's a mistake."
Famous expression. Now it’s hard to say what exactly was a mistake. But initially, a mistake was made in Moscow. And then everything went on increasing. After the collapse of the Union, Azerbaijan simply had no other way but to move closer to Turkey. Turkey never bet on Aliyev. But the logic of events forced Azerbaijan and Turkey to seek rapprochement. But ... Azerbaijan (after Elchibeevsky) never opposed itself to Russia.
The problem of many people writing here on the site is the opinion that everyone is obliged to subordinate their policies to the interests of Russia. This is a mistake. The interests of their country are always above the interests of Russia. We cannot be more patriots than the Russians themselves.
The problem of relations between Russia and Azerbaijan is not Karabakh. Karabakh is a problem between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Russia, the States, the Minsk Group are all secondary. Our problem is Karabakh, and as soon as it reaches Armenia that it is impossible to live in isolation, the problem will disappear.
Moreover, I stocked up with popcorn and am looking forward to the development of events. Armenia confidently follows the path of Ukraine and looks to the West. When their slogans reach Moscow, you will understand what kind of strategic ally you have.

[Okolotochny]

The interests of their country are always above the interests of Russia. We cannot be more patriots than the Russians themselves.

Hard to disagree. You're right.
I am not trying to give an assessment that "who is better is the Armenians or Azerbaijanis." But IMHO, the policy of the Azerbaijani authorities is more consistent and predictable than the policy of the Armenian authorities. Given all the treaties, unions and military blocs.
The problem is still what, by the way, and on the site it is visible - until Russian citizens of Armenian and Azerbaijani nationality become RUSSIAN (in relation to their country of residence), this problem will constantly pop up (Armenia and Azerbaijan). Many times I saw cars with Russian license plates, Russian citizens, even acquaintances, and under the glass there were flags of Armenia, Azerbaijan and other post-Soviet states. But, for some reason, they don’t want to leave for these countries whose flags cause “snot and tears”. Both in disputes and in conversations they protect the interests of not Russia, Russia is constantly to blame for them. "Whether she is right or not, THIS IS MY COUNTRY." IMHO.

[Cheldon]

Quote: purple

Yes, you do not pull the identity on the ally .... even on the non-strategic .... Money does not smell easy, but people are fighting and not weapons.

But in vain you are so, Azerbaijan is more an ally than Armenia. Unlike the Armenians, not a single terrorist attack (January 8, 1977 - three explosions occurred in Moscow: at 17:33 in the metro on the line between the Izmailovsky Park and Pervomaiskaya stations, at 18:05 in grocery store No. 15 of Baumansky district food department on Dzerzhinsky Square (now Lubyanskaya), at 18:10 in a cast-iron rubbish bin near grocery store No. 5 on October 25 Street (now Nikolskaya) - as a result, 7 people died and 37 more were injured [11]. According to the investigation, the performers of these the attacks were residents of Yerevan: Stepan Zatikyan, Hakob Stepanyan, Zaven Baghdasaryan. The first, recognized by the organizer of the group, was found in the apartment a scheme of an explosive device that worked in the metro, the second - details of new explosive devices. All three were members of an illegal Armenian nationalist party) .

[Okolotochny]

Ask about where Chechen fighters were treated in both the first and second campaigns. Including in Azerbaijan.

[Cheldon]

Yes, these militants where only not treated

[garnik]

Which after 5 days was shot, not broken record of time from the announcement, to the execution. Moreover, they did not plead guilty. The wiki can be enlightened.

[Cheldon]

Well, according to your words, 2 \ 3 convicts are innocent because they have not pleaded guilty. Your dashnakyurts fascist organization and those who were justly shot were its members. If you doubt the justice of the sentence, let's go to court.

[garnik]

Dashnaktsutyun is no better and no worse than the communist, but in the tsarist army they fought in the ranks of the Russians.

[Seal]

You have already been told how many times that:
1. The sentence was executed after all the procedures provided for by the Law. Including after rejection of requests for clemency.
2. It is necessary to shoot organized terrorists immediately. Until their accomplices seized some children's bus or plane.

[Dimmih]

In your place, I would read something about the Azerbaijani organized crime groups. At one time he worked in the UR - so in our city, the heroin trade was Azerbaijani and Gypsy, Azerbaijanis sold technical alcohol to the suffering almost exclusively. The Armenians were not noticed in anything like that, like that, minor pranks-tax evasion, illegal entrepreneurship, but no more than other nationalities. But with Azerbaijanis there were constant problems. Read on this topic, learn a lot.

[Seal]

Some are no better than others. Type in a search in Google or elsewhere: "Native of Armenia drugs" and enjoy.
A "taxi driver with a license to kill"?
There are three types of criminals in Russia. The first ones are the descendants of those nations, including ours, who created our state and recreated it in 1613. This is our homegrown so to speak. And we, alas, live with him.
The second is the descendants of those nations whose ancestral lands were conquered by our ancestors at the tip of our Russian bayonet. It’s even worse. Criminals can always say that "but we did not ask you to conquer our lands." Almost all Muslim and former USSR peoples have the right to say this. Well, except for the Tatars and Bashkirs because their ancestors participated in the Militias in 1611-1612. and thereby participated in the reconstruction of the Russian State.
Third, Georgians and even more Armenians. The only two peoples not on the list of indigenous peoples of Russia and not on the list of conquered peoples of Russia. They themselves came running to us to be saved. And we let them in to ourselves. Well, taken under our high arm. And what did we get in return?
Can we Georgians and Armenians also bow to our feet and thank you for the fact that their crime is 0,001% less (and that is not a fact, maybe more) than the crime of Azerbaijanis and Dagestanis? And thanks to the Armenians for their active assistance to the Germans during the period from August to November 1914 in drawing Turkey into World War I on the side of Germany, right? And this is nothing that Ludendorff after the war said in the 1920s that: “If we had not been able to drag Turkey on our side, Germany would not have survived until 1916.”

[Dimmih]

With all due respect to your tirades, I can say this ..... I worked for a long time in the police, including not for long in the criminal investigation department. And in order to know the structure and specialization of criminal groups, I do not need Google. Are you related to this work or have you just mastered Google? You write all sorts of nonsense, people read and someone will believe. You, in this matter, understand as the character of a cartoon named Nyusha in oranges. And I dived in this muddy slush for many years, I did not have great success, but I did my work. Specially phoned friends, nothing has changed. Do not write about what you do not understand. As for the quote: “Type in a search in Google, or else where:“ Native of Armenia, drugs ”and enjoy.” Replace the person involved in the request with Russian and you will see something about Russians and in a considerable amount.

[Herculesic]

We just did not invest $ 400 billion in Armenia as ukroin to buy their friendship!

[Antares]

Quote: Herkulesich

like ukroinu 400 billion dollars

already 400 ... bets are rising ...

[Strashila]

The rally ... it is always determined by the language of the placards on who the customer is ... for which media and which states the production ... so that the audience can understand without translation.

[bald]

Something I misunderstand here, on one with a finger and express dissatisfaction, while they themselves have something in the fluff. Just the same policy dad Makhno.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: bald

Something I misunderstand here, on one with a finger and express dissatisfaction, while they themselves have something in the fluff. Just the same policy dad Makhno.

Volodya. the election ... will begin now .. heh heh
And Azerbaijan pays, we sell ..! They will have a problem even more, really .. We all remember!

[siberalt]

And who wants to lose the market? In 2009, with an oil price of 70 bucks, the ruble was around 30. In the 14th, Putin promised that everything would recover in a year and a half. Now oil is again at 70, and the ruble has not risen from 37 per barrel. Where to get the money, Zin? Now at least the hell is the bald sold to the devil himself, if only the elections went according to plan. And there is another sanding of the population.

[bald]

Vitaly hi - how is it - we deliver to Azerbaijan and Armenia, and then they, with our weapons, fight among themselves. We have a partnership with Armenia, joint exercises, the Iskanders set.

[Spike Javelin Touvich]

terrible

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Spikes Javelin Touvich

terrible

Yes, everything is fine, we bought tomatoes. We don’t mind and we remember EVERYTHING!

Just listening .. Bazar-Eee dear station .. (they even mention Hitler there)))

[TsUS-Air Force]

Well, I do not understand this !!! Well, why do we place our base in Armenia and sell weapons to their enemies in Azerbaijan. if you look globally, we betray those guys who serve in our base in Armenia, because if big hostilities begin, they will be shot from our own weapons!

[Bakht]

Open the card. Better globe of Armenia. Where is that base?

[garnik]

And what to open the map. If the war begins, we won’t get rid of Arsakh. There will be a large-scale war. You are still conducting sniper fire on the positions of Armenia. So the CSTO is obliged to help you, of course, apart from the Russians, no one from the CSTO will be involved.

[purple]

If they start shooting at our base in Gyumri, this will mean the end of Azerbaijan as a state entity

[AUL]

Yes, we will express such concern to them - they will all die at once! (Laughing...)

[Cheldon]

Quote: purple

If they start shooting at our base in Gyumri, this will mean the end of Azerbaijan as a state entity

After your words, even looking towards Gyumri is scary.

[Bakht]

Listen, daragoy. We don’t need your base in Gyumri. She is on the border with Turkey. Guess once against whom this base?

[Seal]

It’s not we who are posting, but they have scribbled from us so that we can place our base with them. To protect our Motherland, we don’t need it in FIG. Moreover, in the area of ​​the base (Armenian-Turkish border), the height difference is in favor of the Turkish side. If, what, the Turks in five minutes will demolish our entire base from the barrel artillery, whose positions are located on their back slopes of the mountains on the Turkish side. And the Turks have good artillery, German.
The base needs to be displayed. And the sooner the better.

[genisis]

The base needs to be displayed. And the sooner the better.

Tell me, where do you want to output 102 Base? To the territory of the Russian Federation?

[Dormidont]

Reminds training tankers Guderian near Kazan

[Lopatov]

Do you think Dagestan will be attacked?

[Alexander War]

The video looks like from the old https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2572375.html

[Maz]

Quote: NOC-VVS

Well, I do not understand this !!! Well, why do we place our base in Armenia and sell weapons to their enemies in Azerbaijan. if you look globally, we betray those guys who serve in our base in Armenia, because if big hostilities begin, they will be shot from our own weapons!

And we will force them to the world and build the Baku-Yerevan-Tbilisi oil pipeline, and they will guard it with this equipment.

[Thunderbolt]

Azerbaijan has money and it’s better to buy weapons from us than from Turkish, Israeli or Euro-American firms. We can then rearm the Armenian army for a part of the profit. We don’t sell samples that are particularly critical for our presence in the Caucasus, although there were proposals .First of all, these are fighters. If I am not mistaken, then this is BTR-82 A. Such can and should be delivered in any quantity (as much as they wish), because the Azerbaijani army is not capable of completely breaking through the Karabakh URs and successfully isolating itself from the inevitable counterattacks from the side of Greater Armenia. And not because some are better than others, but because the war will then become total and large players will have to intervene. And this will be another war and it is not yet included in the plans. Therefore, your Aliyev, of course, can arrange “victorious fights” on the front line, but no more. As the head of state, he perfectly understands the entire measure of his responsibility and obligations, although addressing the people can speak in a different tone . But this is already domestic policy.
P.S. Probably because of this, I regret most of all that there is no longer the Soviet Union ... because. there would not be that war (which burns the hearts of both your peoples) and there would be no prerequisites for new exacerbations. But this is of course the lyrics.

[garnik]

I agree with you. Soberly argue.

[faterdom]

As they used to say in Soviet times: "Wars in the countries of the third world never end, because everyone! The parties are fighting with Russian weapons, which are invincible!"
And in the case - we deliver, and we will supply, much less not for free. Azerbaijan is not a hostile state for us, no matter what it may be, and the only anti-Russian Elchibey was quickly replaced by KGB officer Aliyev, and his coincidence was again Aliyev. And after all, in such a strange organization as GUUAM they dragged him on, cookies promised, but only Georgia, Ukraine and Moldova, Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan bought, hesitated, refused to play solo on the anti-Russian front. Although Gabala can now eat without oil as much as they want.
In general, it’s very unfortunate that we didn’t put Najibullah’s weapons and ammunition in the DRA when he depended critically on them.

[Yujanin.]

Quote: faterdom

Although Gabala can now eat without oil as much as they want.

Nearby, near the former radar

[anos off]

And what's the matter? Both Armenia and Azerbaijan are our good neighbors. It is better to have at least a decorative ally than a frank Russophobic (in the manner of the Baltic states) neighbor.

[Denis Obukhov]

On frames 9-10 cars were lit. But the issue is not quantity. By such actions, Russia will lose Armenia, which is Russia's strategic ally, is a member of the CSTO and the EAEU. And Azerbaijan will still remain Turkey’s strategic ally and will strive for NATO.

[Bakht]

Armenia is currently seeking NATO membership. Google the Internet. And Turkey seeks in the CSTO. :-)
S-300 sold to Turkey? Does Russia supply NATO weapons?

[garnik]

In any case, you will follow the line of Turkey. You are restrained by an unresolved problem in A. rtsakh. How will the reference points be set you will openly oppose Russia, I think therefore the problem in Ar.tsakh will not be resolved for a long time.

[Dimmih]

I don’t know how much weapons Azerbaijan needs in order to defeat the Armenians on earth .... Not the motivation among them, the Armenians have nowhere to retreat, Turks-Azeri will mix with the earth.

[Brut]

Quote: Bakht

And Turkey seeks in the CSTO.

Funny.
Why don’t you strive?

[garnik]

Exactly. Unfortunately, few people are familiar with the topic, so they spread what comes to mind.

[Alber]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

By such actions, Russia will lose Armenia, which is Russia's strategic ally,

found mlyn "strategic ally" ...

[tosha.chuhontzev]

Sad story. Criticizing the United States, Russia is embarking on the slippery slope of so-called interests and economic pragmatism. I am waiting for a sharp exacerbation in Nagorno-Karabakh.

[faterdom]

Quote: tosha.chuhontzev

Waiting for a sharp aggravation in Nagorno-Karabakh

Do you remember that this is the first war in the USSR that began, God forbid, another year somewhere in the 87-88th? Because the Spitak earthquake already then, many conspiracy theorists wrote down about geophysical weapons ... What nonsense, but just had Gorbi to plant the instigators and organizers of the massacre on both sides, and for thirty years there would have been all "peace-friendship-chewing gum". But he was Gorbachev, and with pleasure he took decisive steps where he did not need, and did not do where he should. That is, there was a wise and shrewd ruler, only in the opposite direction.

[Lexus]

Want to troll, want not. I can not feel the pleasure of the fact that in the vastness of my EXTENSIVE HOMELAND - the USSR - former fellow citizens are killing each other. Of course, I repeat, yes, WE ALL LIVED IN ONE COUNTRY, LIKE PEOPLE — we worked, raised children, beat common enemies together, and made friends. Now "a friend turned out to be suddenly not a friend and not an enemy but - so", this is at least. Many managed to fight, get dirty with blood and hate each other. As a result, the Armenians and Azerbaijanis (and not just them) in numbers BIGGER than living within the national territories are stolen (see criminal news for a week if in doubt) and “eat up” in Russia. The only difference is that, "raising the loot", the Armenians dream of "dumping" in the "states", and the Azerbaijanis - in the "emirates".
Who got better from this? Answer yourself.

[Mihail55]

It is strange to read on VO ... first I read about the friendship of the Soviets with AtaTurk against Armenia in the early 20s ... now it’s a weapon to the original enemy of the Armenians. Continuity????

[unignm]

With this material, the press service of the Republic of Azerbaijan contains a rather provocative statement that the latest equipment of Russian production
"As soon as possible will be sent to military units deployed on the front line."

and why else buy weapons? not for museums? what a iliotism.

[vatrpas]

For the parade. I. Aliyev will not change at the helm in the Nagorno-Karabakh issue. Buying a weapon is nothing more than a political move. I. Aliyev buys support for the regime this way. From 2012 to 2014, he spent 2.9lard in dollars to support the regime in Europe. These armored personnel carriers are needed to protect the Aliyev clan, and they will not affect the balance of forces in Nagorno-Karabakh. So in this matter everything is in chocolate. Dictators cannot live without the support of the army.

[Glory1974]

We must supply weapons to both Armenia and Azerbaijan. Maintain parity. Then no one will dare to aggravate the situation.

[taiga2018]

this is a signal to some hotheads in Armenia who are trying to foment anti-Russian sentiments ...

[garnik]

The more weapons will be sold to the bureaus, the greater will be the discontent of the people of Armenia. Everything is simple.

[Brut]

Quote: taiga2018

this is a signal to some hotheads in Armenia who are trying to foment anti-Russian sentiments ...

The actions of the Russian Federation contribute to the incitement of anti-Russian sentiments in Armenia, while Americans save tens of millions of dollars.

[vnord]

[quote = garnik] A strategic ally will be killed from these weapons [
The question is whether he is our ally ...
Armenia enters into partnership agreement with NATO ..

[garnik]

Ally, ally.
From the fact that Armenia does not count in the CSTO? And this formation is still embarrassed to name the aggressor in April 2016.

[dojjdik]

here Th some Armenians hid themselves with Jews chtol? But the "electric Maidan" was already there; again, Jews throw loot into the void trying to quarrel Russia with Armenia; Well, and arms trading is a normal and profitable business, can then the Britons stop "selling" the most advanced efs to their Israeli friends? it’s unlikely that when there will be, well, the current can be after the 3rd world

[Dimmih]

Quote: garnik

And what to open the map. If the war begins, we won’t get rid of Arsakh. There will be a large-scale war. You are still conducting sniper fire on the positions of Armenia. So the CSTO is obliged to help you, of course, apart from the Russians, no one from the CSTO will be involved.

I think that Armenia will rightfully receive free of charge means of counteracting what Azerbaijan is buying. I have such confidence ..... Time will tell.

[garnik]

I would like to believe.

[Dimmih]

Quote: garnik

Exactly. Unfortunately, few people are familiar with the topic, so they spread what comes to mind.

Garnik, there is a question on an abstract topic: at one time I spoke with your compatriots and they spoke worse about Georgians than they did about Azerbaijanis. Something like this: you know that the Azerbaijani is your enemy and what to expect from him, but if you already agree with him about something, then it is more likely that the agreement will be fulfilled. But with the Georgians, things were bad in terms of what they said and did. What can you say on this subject?

[garnik]

In general, it is. Before the two peoples entered the protectorate of Russia, there were no closer peoples. Together they fought and defended themselves from enemies, were forced to rely only on themselves. And now, conversations are more like blackmail. Although lately, relations have been improving.

[garnik]

Addition to my comment. In a foreign land, we relate to each other as well as our ancestors.

[Bakht]

Russia's strategic ally
https://rus.azatutyun.am/a/28913978.html

[garnik]

A holy place is never empty. And this is good. And most importantly, weapons manufactured at joint ventures will never be sold to the enemies of Russia.

[tranquil]

Very sorry.

[Cheldon]

Quote: garnik

Ally, ally.
From the fact that Armenia does not count in the CSTO? And this formation is still embarrassed to name the aggressor in April 2016.

Those who pretend to be a strategic partner do not commit acts of terrorism on the territory of their partner, you try to survive and rush about like an guano in an ice hole between the banks. Azerbaijan is more consistent in this. Before entering Russia, Azerbaijan represented about 10 khanates (including the Karabakh). If it were not for the fact of expansion, no one can tell how their fate would have developed. I am an opponent of national swagger. This is a direct path to fascism. It takes courage to admit it. You say, how are the Russians with their slogan “Thank God we are Russians”, but we didn’t cut the people out, didn’t try to destroy them, we expanded, but left the people with the right to self-determination, look what the Anglo-Saxons did with the indigenous people (Indians , Indians), etc., etc.

[garnik]

How are you guano. What are you? Are you trying the story of the so-called Tell Azerbaijan? Do not expose me Russophobe. In any case, Russia is a great country, but beginning in October 1917, the once powerful Empire collapsed. I am well acquainted with the enormous contribution of the Russian people in the formation of newly-minted states. He himself was born in one Central Asian republic and managed to catch metamorphoses.

[Cheldon]

Quote: garnik

beginning in October 1917, the once powerful Empire collapsed ..

Well, in what, do you think the collapse occurs if the guest workers are full of former republics, including Armenia (where more Armenians live, in Russia or Armenia?)

[garnik]

The collapse is due to the fact that all the peoples inhabiting the Russian Empire have drawn borders in (self-harm), and now all these peoples demand independence. Part apkash let go, and part with the help of Turkey and with the filing of the United States, will fight for independence. Mainly Turkic-speaking republics remained. Therefore, the United States needs the Turks, but now there is a minor misunderstanding between them.
To stop the collapse, it is necessary to assimilate all the peoples within Russia, otherwise sooner or later they will leave Russia. Assimilation example, Turkey
Yes, unfortunately, many Armenians are leaving their homeland, and not only for a decent life. Including I. Russian education, one of the factors of my move. Counted surrounded by Armenians, most employers. Even a guest worker works for me.

[Seal]

Quote: garnik

From the fact that Armenia does not count in the CSTO? And this formation is still embarrassed to name the aggressor in April 2016.

It doesn’t count. First of all, they didn’t call you there. You yourself crawled without soap.
Secondly, the CSTO has nothing to do with Karabakh.
Armenia recognized independence of Karabakh? No, I didn’t!
Armenia included Karabakh in Armenia? No, I didn’t turn it on !!
It means that even Armenia recognizes that Karabakh de jure is Azerbaijan.
And what does the CSTO have to do with ??????