Media: Turkey is shelling Syrian Afrin

Information Agency Associated Press publishes a report that the Turkish army launched a military operation against the armed groups of Syrian Kurds YPG in the area of ​​the city Afrin (Aleppo Province). According to the latest information, Turkish artillery is operating in the city, located near the border with Turkey.

The information is confirmed by the Turkish news agency. "Anadolu". A statement by the Turkish media says that the artillery strikes are inflicted by units of the Turkish Armed Forces deployed in the Turkish province of Hatay in the area of ​​Hassa and Kyrykhan. During the day, as stated, Turkish artillery inflicted at least 10 strikes.

Moreover, it is alleged that only “retaliatory actions” take place. In the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces it was stated that representatives of the Kurdish armed groups, called Ankara terrorist, were the first to fire on Afrin’s side.

Turkish Defense Minister Nurettin Janikli said that the decision to launch a ground operation against YPG in Afrin will not change.

Janikli:

Armed units began shelling our positions at the border. This is a direct threat to the security of Turkey.

Against this background, messages are arriving from the Turkish province of Hatay about the arrival of additional special forces units. On the section of the border with Syria in the region of Afrin, several additional border posts and roadblocks were created.

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[oldseaman1957]

Sorry for the Kurds - everywhere they are out of place. And among themselves, discord, and neighbors their independence as a bone in the throat.

[Chertt]

Quote: oldseaman1957

Sorry for the Kurds

If I’m not mistaken at the end of 2015., Russia, on my own behalf and on behalf of Assad, was negotiating with the Kurds, and quite successfully ..... Why the Kurds were rocked into the arms of the United States, I don’t know, but you can’t say that they had no choice.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Chertt

Quote: oldseaman1957

Sorry for the Kurds

If I’m not mistaken at the end of 2015., Russia, on my own behalf and on behalf of Assad, was negotiating with the Kurds, and quite successfully ..... Why the Kurds were rocked into the arms of the United States, I don’t know, but you can’t say that they had no choice.

There was a choice.
Or everything is old, or such a new life .... freedom, oil, bathe-do not want, democracy (but you can whatever you want), the gurus on every tree, and Sherbet-persimmon (or halva?) ...
In short, sign and that’s it.

[Chertt]

Quote: Mavrikiy

In short, sign and that’s it.

In general, neither they are the first nor they are the last, whom the mattresses “Threw through the kartalyga” (c) “The Black Candle”

[Logall]

No one else’s experience teaches and will not teach! Only your mistakes ...
Eh, experience son of difficult mistakes ...

[ispaniard]

Well, Kurd, have your Yankees helped you? ..

[karabas-barabas]

Look at a city like Yerbil, the amount of investment.

[garnik]

The Athens Kurds were pro-Russian; they rejoiced at the presence of our military police. I think if they would be offered autonomy as part of Syria, they are only for it, only they put their lives on the altar for the sake of "friendship." We missed the Rozhav Kurds, and maybe even better for them.

[Cheldon]

Explain why rozhavskie Kurds are better?

[garnik]

You will not like it, but they will not be thrown. Because there is room for them for the conceived scenario of Amers and Israelis.

[Nehist]

Back in July last year, Kurds were offered autonomy within Syria. They refused, and for a greater sense, the Kurds must first deal with each other

[Vita vko]

Quote: oldseaman1957

Sorry for the Kurds - everywhere they are out of place

There are a lot of groups and everywhere their leaders, some of whom prefer to fight for their rights by terrorist methods. Which discredits all their movement. And friendship with the Americans in general puts an end to their authority in the Islamic world and the prospect of at least some kind of legalized autonomy.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: oldseaman1957

Sorry for the Kurds - everywhere they are out of place. And among themselves, discord, and neighbors their independence as a bone in the throat.

It is necessary to solve the "Kurdish issue" and the Turks are interested in this, then we'll figure it out .. ISIS was dispersed, now the United States has put the Kurds on the Kurds. Erdogan think warned where the limit is!

[TsUS-Air Force]

all say that the Kurds are with the Americans. but why then does the Assad protect them? please explain, I do not understand much about this issue

[alexmach]

And there are different Kurds. Now Kakraz is being urinated by those whom Assad defended, And those whom the Americans are defending no one has yet touched.

[Grandfather]

skirts .... "mihan" drew ..

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About myself I swear to abide by the rules of the site and not write slogans, etc. he he

and you don’t know how to do anything else! and then, you have several accounts, that is, a violation of the Rules - are you lying again?

Thanks to all the brothers who remember me .

..you forget how you ... you are at the door, you are at the window!

and those who were offended not by evil, support and forgive, I just love the Motherland!

so love, not the brains of the children ... I already said that there is patriotism, there is fanaticism, and there is idiocy ... choose one, otherwise you have “hedensholders" ... 3-in one bottle.

(and with the blue, tie ...)

[Tusv]

Quote: MIKHAN

It is necessary to solve the "Kurdish issue" and the Turks are interested in this, then we'll figure it out .. ISIS was dispersed, now the United States has put the Kurds on the Kurds. Erdogan think warned where the limit is!

What is it to decide when our Zionist sages explained everything on their fingers. Kurds are non-Muslims, because they betrayed their own. Turks are under-empire, because they wanted to defeat Us many times

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: oldseaman1957

Sorry for the Kurds - everywhere they are out of place. And among themselves, discord, and neighbors their independence as a bone in the throat.

Well, we not only felt sorry for the Kurds, but also helped, on the Internet.
Disagreement, disorder, if each village has its own Ali Baba, but fifty trunks, anyone’s head spinning from prospects .... And humanitarian aid falls on his head .... Just ask a question, what you will have to pay for it, well, it’s very boring .

[siberalt]

Kurds do not care whom to wet. Yes, only Erdogan forgets that Kurds also live in Turkey.

[Grandfather]

[quote = sibiralt] Kurds do not care who to wet. Yes only Erdogan forgets that Kurds also live in Turkey. [/ quote] and here you are right, my friend ... if something inside flames up so that Taip will forget the fuck about Syria ..

[Hottabych]

If the Turks break out like in Syria, then we will ... not at all sweeter. Mayhem in Turkey, Russia is not needed. Turkey is very close. And the enemy is far beyond the ocean ...

[alexmach]

So inside, he previously cleared everything a year ago ...

[Grits]

Sorry for the Kurds - everywhere they are out of place. And among themselves, discord, and neighbors their independence as a bone in the throat.
And I do not feel sorry at all after they, under the cover of amerikatos, vilely squeezed out almost without resistance from the black side all the oil fields east of the Euphrates and handed them over in stripes. You must pay for meanness. Only the Rozhava, and the Athenian Kurds are paying for the betrayal

[Kent0001]

Yeah, for a long time there will still be no peace .. if it is generally possible there now, in principle.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Kent0001

Yeah, for a long time there will still be no peace .. if it is generally possible there now, in principle.

Why so? Kurds have always been a source of conflict and confrontation, and even more so the USA suddenly began to support them .. If the Turks deal with them, it will be quieter in Syria and the BV, the main thing is that Erdogan should not get carried away too (there is such a danger)

[Grandfather]

Quote: MIKHAN

Why so? Kurds have always been a source of conflict and confrontation

Vitalik, and put yourself in their place. people without a country. (Palestinians 2.0) and the Turks will not deal with them, like Israel, did not understand Palestine. and I think the Kurds will be more serious. Americans are ready to throw loot in any bonfire, as long as it burns, and away from home.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Dead Day

Vitalik, and put yourself in their place. people without a country. (Palestinians 2.0) and the Turks will not deal with them, like Israel, did not understand Palestine. and I think the Kurds will be more serious. Americans are ready to throw loot in any bonfire, as long as it burns, and away from home.

We will deal with Kurds soon, but it will be more difficult with the USA and Israel in this region ..
On the American continent it is necessary to land Russian paratroopers and create a base otherwise it will be all this .. Well, Israel itself scare tanks with Russian crews .. hehe Otherwise, the massacre in Ukraine and Syria will continue .. I have such an opinion men!

[Nehist]

And when did they have their own country? They lived for thousands of years as part of all Assyrian and Persian states and everything was fine! The question of a separate state began to be raised in 186 .. some year. And before that, they did not care

[Alexander 3]

The Turks continued the confrontation.

[Herculesic]

The Syrians must and must withdraw the turchin from their land! Nefig Erdogad climb there, not only that, and so he stole a piece of foreign land, but also leads a massacre there! Little him igilovtsy burned and beat equipment! It is necessary that the Syrian army also burned a couple of dozen Turkish tanks!

[Grandfather]

Quote: Herkulesich

The Syrians must and must withdraw the turchin from their land!

... but ... they won’t pull it ... Erdogan understands this, and he’s leaning ... Syria’s “divide” begins. here the question is only in "shares".

[Mavrikiy]

that the first fires were opened from Afrin’s side by representatives of Kurdish armed groups called Ankara terrorist.

Yes, suicide. About the corner with my head, 8-10 times, I don’t remember anymore, lost count.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Yes, suicide. About the corner with my head, 8-10 times, I don’t remember anymore, lost count.

Why not? Kurds are counting on the support of an ally, USA. Therefore, they are quite capable of inadequately assessing their own strengths.

[corporal]

Quote: Spade

Kurds are counting on the support of an ally, USA.

A bit wrong. Here is a comment from a neighboring branch:

donavi49 Today, 19: 49 ↑
The United States has already given an official position - what will happen to the Arfins, they do not care. If they run into the SDF, then there will be a reaction.
The US coalition believes that the operation of Turkey against the Kurds outside their area of ​​responsibility

[Lopatov]

Quote: Corporal

A bit wrong. Here is a comment from a neighboring branch:

It was already later. For the United States, it is not the first time to throw its allies.

[Nehist]

Yes, there’s more like an ordinary mess, in the form of several groups of Kurds with different political views, and here is some kind of group that has flopped, and everyone will answer

[Abrash]

Interestingly, unidentified F-22s will shoot down Turkish planes while protecting CIA secret agents in Kurdish villages?

[Pereira]

Yeah. The next lesson to all dvuhstulchakovym.

[axenm]

Hooray!! Victory!!

[Cartalon]

The hereditary enemy destroys people who trusted Russia, shouting Hurray, and then we are surprised that no one loves us.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Cartalon

people who trusted Russia,

And went under the wing of the United States, with the "bloody dictator Assad" to fight ...
It hurts a lot of such "gullible" in Russia ...

[Cartalon]

And where could they go under Erodagan, who suddenly became a sculpted friend in half an hour?

[Lopatov]

Good question ... "Where to go" ... The option to support the legitimate authorities of the country is not considered?

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Spade

And went under the wing of the United States, with the "bloody dictator Assad" to fight ...
It hurts a lot of such "gullible" in Russia ...

Well, in Kurdish Afrin, until the last day there were units of the Russian military police, not the American ones, and only before the Turks attacked they were taken out of there - it’s not good how it comes out, why then did you go in there?

[alexmach]

why then was there to enter?

Actually, the military police there had to support the world, fight with banditry. It was not her duty to fight the Turkish army, and she did not have enough funds for this. And in general, on that theater of war no one can effectively resist the Turks.

[Buka001]

The most important thing at the moment is to prevent relations between Russia and Turkey from deteriorating. What the West, led by America, really wants. Whatever happens, you cannot destroy this union !! Only together Russia and Turkey can give the Americans a nose. And those who feel sorry for the Kurds, then let them advise them to leave the places of tension, it's as simple as that.

[Cartalon]

Kurds in these places from the time of Assyria live unlike Turks and Arabs

[alexmach]

Have you noticed other today's news from Turkey? Well, about the flow then? What do you say, Ukrainians for a gas pipe haggled? I notice at a time 5-7 more powerful gas pipe.

[Livonetc]

Quote: Herkulesich

The Syrians must and must withdraw the turchin from their land! Nefig Erdogad climb there, not only that, and so he stole a piece of foreign land, but also leads a massacre there! Little him igilovtsy burned and beat equipment! It is necessary that the Syrian army also burned a couple of dozen Turkish tanks!

Oh well.
They from the broads in slippers only with specific help from Russia more or less fought back.
Syria must be negotiated with Turkey.
And the Kurds together crush.
As the Kurds will be put in an interesting position, then it will only be possible to conduct productive negotiations on the concessions to this offended nation.

[Belarus is Russia]

Quote: garnik

The Athens Kurds were pro-Russian; they rejoiced at the presence of our military police. I think if they would be offered autonomy as part of Syria, they are only for it, only they put their lives on the altar for the sake of "friendship." We missed the Rozhav Kurds, and maybe even better for them.

What autonomy ???? They must be - IN THE INDIVIDUAL AND ONE SYRIA, THE ONE PEOPLE OF SYRIA. AND THERE SHOULD BE EQUAL, NOT ONLY RIGHTS, BUT AND DUTIES OF THE SYRIAN PEOPLE.
And live in a united Syria, indivisible and obey the legitimate legitimate government of Syria, chosen by its people as the Syrians, Bashar al-Assad.
And the Kurds did not want this and left under the United States. And they want to divide a single Syria. Or seize the whole and put up their pro-Western government.
And this, they did not want.

[garnik]

I am only for a united Syria without autonomies, which our state would wish for. But where to put the people with arms in their hands, especially when there is no force to suppress the tricks of uninvited guests, the Amer coalition and all kinds of rubbish.

[alexmach]

Where to put it? Yes, there’s no getting anywhere, you need to negotiate with them. We give you autonomy with such and such powers - you give us support from the center. We’ll leave your police to you and you to us .. Please put 2/3 of the same police under arms in our regular army, but fight where necessary, but we need to replenish it as necessary.

[garnik]

I meant the Athenian Communist Kurds. What should they give autonomy as part of a single Syria, then they would have joined the ranks of the SAA. But something the Turks offered us that, frankly, we surrender the Kurds. But you can’t squeeze a Turk out of there.

[alexmach]

I’m even guessing what exactly is higher in the news feed

Gazprom received permission to build the second line of the Turkish Stream

[Belarus is Russia]

Quote: Herkulesich

The Syrians must and must withdraw the turchin from their land! Nefig Erdogad climb there, not only that, and so he stole a piece of foreign land, but also leads a massacre there! Little him igilovtsy burned and beat equipment! It is necessary that the Syrian army also burned a couple of dozen Turkish tanks!

Erdogan does this, with the permission of Russia, Russian Orthodox Christian, Russian Orthodox Christians, the people of Russia. Destroys the Kurds who lay under the United States and want to divide Syria. What are you like? Officially, everything was explained to you by the Russian leadership of the Russian Orthodox Christian, Russian Orthodox Christians, the people of Russia Russian Orthodox Christian in the official media.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Belarus is Russia

Quote: Herkulesich

The Syrians must and must withdraw the turchin from their land! Nefig Erdogad climb there, not only that, and so he stole a piece of foreign land, but also leads a massacre there! Little him igilovtsy burned and beat equipment! It is necessary that the Syrian army also burned a couple of dozen Turkish tanks!

Erdogan does this, with the permission of Russia, Russian Orthodox Christian, Russian Orthodox Christians, the people of Russia. Destroys the Kurds who lay under the United States and want to divide Syria. What are you like? Officially, everything was explained to you by the Russian leadership of the Russian Orthodox Christian, Russian Orthodox Christians, the people of Russia Russian Orthodox Christian in the official media.

On Thursday, January 18, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu met in Moscow with the Chief of the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces, Army General Hulusi Akar and the Director of the National Intelligence Organization of the Republic of Turkey, Hakan Fidan.

According to the Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Russian Ministry of Defense, this meeting discussed issues related to the situation in the Middle East and other relevant topics of mutual interest. The conversation was held in a constructive manner.
In Turkey, told the details of the contract for the supply of S-400 from Russia

On the same day, the chief of the Russian General Staff Valery Gerasimov met with Turkish colleagues. The central topic of the conversation was also the situation in Syria, ...

so nothing supernatural happened. Russia behaves quite harshly - no Kurdistan, who is not with us is against us, in the East, only power is respected. The United States, with its idea of ​​an independent Kurdistan, only discredited the Kurds, and this affects the integrity of not only Syria, but also Turkey, Iraq, Iran. Therefore, here everyone immediately opposes the common enemy of their state territories, Russia needs all of this without getting into it, but coordinating all actions in order to prevent a brawl ... until this succeeds, which we will wish in the future.

[faterdom]

The hint is quite clear and understandable: as soon as the Kurds begin to shy away from American "friends" like hell from incense, or even fire from the mountainsides at night - they can safely enlist Iran, Iran, Russia as friends, I won’t say for Turkey, the sacred enemy is, nevertheless, into enemies, naturally America and Israel.
But here's the thing: if a friend of Russia, or even Iran, at least - you are alive and you have certain guarantees. If you are a friend of the United States, then for the sake of the election campaign, or whatever geopolitical plans you are merged, declared a devil and try to destroy quickly.

[Maz]

Syrian walk field

[Zomanus]

Yes, not under those Kurds fell ... For us they are American allies,
for the Turks in general, separatists.
In general, figs will understand these oriental passions ...

[Yuyuka]

[quote = Yuyuka] [quote = Belarus is Russia] [quote = Herculesych] Syrians must and must withdraw Turchin from their land! Nefig Erdogad climb there, not only that, and so he stole a piece of foreign land, but also leads a massacre there! Little him igilovtsy burned and beat equipment! It is necessary that the Syrian army also burned a couple of dozen Turkish tanks! [/ Quote]
Erdogan does this, with the permission of Russia, Russian Orthodox Christian, Russian Orthodox Christians, the people of Russia. Destroys the Kurds who lay under the United States and want to divide Syria. What are you like? Everything was officially explained to you by the Russian leadership of the Russian Orthodox Christian, Russian Orthodox Christians, the people of Russia Russian Orthodox Christian in the official media. [/ Quote]

On Thursday, January 18, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu met in Moscow with the Chief of the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces, Army General Hulusi Akar and the Director of the National Intelligence Organization of the Republic of Turkey, Hakan Fidan.

According to the Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Russian Ministry of Defense, this meeting discussed issues related to the situation in the Middle East and other relevant topics of mutual interest. The conversation was held in a constructive manner.

On the same day, the chief of the Russian General Staff Valery Gerasimov met with Turkish colleagues. The central topic of the conversation was also the situation in Syria, ...

so nothing supernatural happened. Russia behaves quite harshly - no Kurdistan, who is not with us is against us, in the East, only power is respected. The United States, with its idea of ​​an independent Kurdistan, only discredited the Kurds, and this affects the integrity of not only Syria, but also Turkey, Iraq, Iran. Therefore, here everyone immediately opposes the common enemy of their state territories, Russia needs all of this without getting into it, but coordinating all actions in order to prevent a brawl ... until this succeeds, which we will wish in the future.

[Cartalon]

It will be fun if Assad is tossed over to the Americans, for him this is the only way to preserve the integrity of the country by giving the Kurds autonomy, which they won’t give up to the Turks.

[anos off]

Nothing unusual happens. It is beneficial for Russia to have a single and indivisible Syria, and through it to influence the BV. But the Kurdish bedologists entered all this cantle because of independence. In order for the Kurds to become more accommodating and dream at least of ending the war (and not of Kurdistan), they were thrown under Turkish tanks. And then peacemaker Lavrov will come, sit everyone at the negotiating table and the Kurds will be happy to live as equal citizens in united Syria.

[voyaka uh]

Communist Kurds are sitting in Afrin. "The Last Marxists-Leninists." Americans do not contact with them. Russia also does not need them. And the Turks are the worst enemy terrorists.

[tosha.chuhontzev]

Now let's observe. Lavrov hastened to declare that the Russian military contingent would not be withdrawn from Afrin. American and German special forces are also located there. I have long been waiting for Erdogan to swallow Russian and American bait. It seems to bite !!! What's next? The collapse of Turkey and the millionth flow of refugees to Europe. The American plan to destroy Merkel's Europe begins to work. And now we will ask comrade the president, how will you maintain neutrality in this matter? The fall of Europe is an American economic blow to Russia and China. One thing remains, quietly helping the Turks to lower the Americans. If this happens, American military prestige will end. And these are billions of losses in the arms market. Well, stocking up popcorn in front of an interesting movie.

[Belarus is Russia]

Quote: alexmach

Where to put it? Yes, there’s no getting anywhere, you need to negotiate with them. We give you autonomy with such and such powers - you give us support from the center. We’ll leave your police to you and you to us .. Please put 2/3 of the same police under arms in our regular army, but fight where necessary, but we need to replenish it as necessary.

What the fuck autonomy ??? They do not want to live according to the equal duties and rights of the people of Syria — they are looking for something there, it means to deceive them, that’s the point. They mean the enemies of Syria and the people of Syria.
They use the EQUAL rights of the people of Syria anyway, which means they must comply with the EQUAL DUTIES of the people of Syria. The army and the police in Syria are Syrian one, they protect all Syrian citizens equally and the legitimate government of Syria, Bashar al-Assad, is obeyed. And all matters. one must be cunning.
Equality means not only enjoying rights, but also observing obligations.

[Belarus is Russia]

Quote: Zomanus

Yes, not under those Kurds fell ... For us they are American allies,
for the Turks in general, separatists.
In general, figs will understand these oriental passions ...

Even a child will understand these passions. In nurseries. What is not clear here? Syria must be whole, united, unbroken. Syria must have Russian military bases, since we are invited there legitimately, legally and at the request of the legitimate president of Syria Bashar al-Assad. In Syria, all terrorists and all other troops must be destroyed and removed. and armies and mercenaries, except for the Russian Orthodox Christian Russian army. We- (Russia Russian Orthodox Christian, Russian Orthodox Christians, people of Russia Russian Orthodox Christian, we are not aggressors, not invaders and should remain and be) Syria, Syrians, people Syria must want to be in Russia and with Russia themselves and voluntarily.
In Syria, there should be peace and order, and people there should live well and be friends with Russia, Russian Orthodox Christian, Russian Orthodox Christians, the people of Russia Russian Orthodox Christian. And if you want, voluntarily, quietly and peacefully join Russia Russian Orthodox Christian. Become Russian Orthodox Christians, Russia Russian Orthodox Christian, people of Russia Russian Orthodox Christian.
Everything here is clear and understandable, even to little children in nurseries.