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Ukrstat reported a significant excess of deaths over births in Ukraine

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The Ukrainian State Statistics Service (Ukrstat) publishes material on the demographic situation in the country for the period from January to November 2017. The article says that the death rate in the country significantly exceeds the birth rate, reaching a sad record in percentage over the past few years.


So, on 64 born in Ukraine, 100 are dead. At the same time, the population of the country from January to November 2017-th declined by 181,5 thousand. For comparison: it is almost equivalent to the population of such a Ukrainian city as Lutsk.

Ukrstat reported a significant excess of deaths over births in Ukraine


If you believe the reports of Ukrstat, then the population of Ukraine on 1 December 2017 of the year was 42,4 million people. Here it is necessary to make a remark regarding the fact that Ukrstat continues to consider the Ukrainian population a resident of the Crimea and Sevastopol, most of whom have long been granted Russian citizenship. Also, the Ukrainian Ministry considers the population of LDNR to be Ukrainian population, in respect of which Kiev continues to carry out a military operation against the background of an economic blockade.

Previously, independent experts estimated the permanent population of Ukraine at the level of 37-38 million people. This is taking into account the fact that many, having initially become refugees, in the end got the opportunity of permanent residence outside Ukraine, retaining a Ukrainian passport.

Expected recent statistics on demographics and from Rosstat.
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  1. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 19 January 2018 16: 43
    24
    What kind of 42 million? Not more than 26 million.
    1. svp67
      svp67 19 January 2018 16: 45
      12
      Quote: Sith Lord
      Not more than 26 million.

      In the West, they believe that this is a lot ... for servicing the embassies of Western "friends", less is needed, much less ... and not a sufficient supply of working hands, you can also compensate immigrants from the Middle East and Africa
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 19 January 2018 16: 55
        13
        Russians are dying. And Ukrainians are born. In general, all this disgrace. And if you speak directly - the genocide of Russian.
        The games of politicians in "independent states" have led to millions of deaths and tens of millions of distorted fates.
        1. Going
          Going 19 January 2018 17: 30
          +4
          In the West, they believe that this is a lot ...

          And they implement it without problems, with the hands of horses.
          1. hrych
            hrych 19 January 2018 19: 09
            11
            Quote: Going
            Russians are dying. And Ukrainians are born

            It seems to me that the opposite is true. The artificially withdrawn Ukrainian nation is dying, and the Russian is reborn. Now in the Donbass, individuals with surnames such as Zakharchenko and Pasechnik have become Russians, although for 70 years the Bolsheviks have been talking to us about the Ukrainian nation according to the anti-Russian national policy of the USSR
            Quote: Going
            And they implement it without problems, with the hands of horses.

            But the time will come and they will still physically punish lovers of Bandera. And after all, it is possible that they will be beaten from two sides, the red-painted Rus from the east and Poles from the west. And they will burn on the spot for the burned inhabitants of Odessa ... Make large boilers with boiling water, lay boards over them and make the horses ride, fell and cooked ...
            1. Going
              Going 19 January 2018 20: 11
              +3
              I have no doubt about it, just hurry up already.
            2. Orionvit
              Orionvit 20 January 2018 06: 40
              +1
              Quote: hrych
              It seems to me that the opposite is true. The artificially withdrawn Ukrainian nation is dying, and the Russian is reborn.

              Not sure. Everyone who was born in Ukraine after 91, regardless of their surname and relatives in Russia, sincerely consider themselves Ukrainians, because they do not know another country. And they sincerely hate the Russians, considering them the occupiers and the worst of evils (the brainwashing machine works fine). And Donbass, this is a very small part, which would change the worldview of a vast territory under the general name of Ukraine.
              1. Weyland
                Weyland 20 January 2018 12: 31
                +1
                Quote: Orionvit
                Everyone who was born in Ukraine after 91, regardless of their surname and relatives in Russia, sincerely consider themselves Ukrainians, because they do not know another country.

                Is that all? laughing
                1. Orionvit
                  Orionvit 20 January 2018 13: 04
                  0
                  Quote: Weyland
                  Is that all?

                  Well got excited. Almost all. And in the western, yes, Russophobia is 100 percent.
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 19 January 2018 23: 16
            +2
            Quote: Going
            And they implement it without problems, with the hands of horses

            and then the horses themselves will be nullified. what mao did with the hongvainbin
        2. avt
          avt 19 January 2018 17: 42
          +5
          Quote: Vladimir16
          Russians are dying. And Ukrainians are born.

          That sho-o-o-o-o-oh ?! A little to see the statistics to maydaun? Well, when and how much did the percentage of people who called themselves Russians decline by years since 1991? From 22 two so% to 7. Where did they go? Let me guess - they became Ukrainians, without even knowing the MOVs, it’s more convenient. Well ? I mean, where were these
          Quote: Vladimir16
          Russians are dying.

          when raguli for the first time in 1991 with asses warmed the asphalt on the Maidan. Well, they didn’t come out and they just didn’t fill their muzzles ?? Crimea -Russian, LDNR BLOOD proved that it is not maydanutyy, geyvropeysky. Those who wanted and could - left and work in Russia, and many on permanent residence. And the rest there do not care - a hut from the edge.
          1. Anatole Klim
            Anatole Klim 19 January 2018 19: 54
            +3
            Quote: avt
            Well, when and how much did the percentage of people who called themselves Russians decline by years since 1991? From 22 two so% to 7. Where did they go? Let me guess - they became Ukrainians, without even knowing the MOVs, it’s more convenient.

            ABT, what are you saying, imagine that tomorrow Kharkiv, Kherson, Odessa regions will become Russian, so guess at once how many residents will become Russian, I think with 7% it will reach 70, well, the mentality is
            1. avt
              avt 19 January 2018 21: 37
              +5
              Quote: Anatol Klim
              Kharkiv, Kherson, Odessa regions will become Russian, so guess at one time how many residents will become Russian, I think with 7% it will reach 70, well, the mentality is

              I won’t even argue! Again, they are, “smarter” than the Donetsk people, they think they’ve taken up arms. Odessa also concerns this in the first place - they have bold Transnistria there and the guys there could easily cooperate, as in LDNR, but the boobs crumpled and Benny was ahead of everyone by setting up the House of Trade Unions. Well, now that you don’t need to stop tanks with your bare hands and don’t really need tanks in the Donbass .... Well, actually it’s THEIR choice and they must answer for it, and not even before us not LDNR, but to ourselves. Well, yes, Az is not a sinful judge to them even once, they are themselves both defendants and judges and enforcers.
              1. Antares
                Antares 19 January 2018 22: 35
                0
                Quote: avt
                Again, they are, “smarter” than Donetsk themselves, they probably think who took up arms

                Thank you, dumb dumb-fight for the "special status" and the Minsk Agreement and the recognition of your rights as a Ukrainian in the Russian Federation.
                Quote: avt
                This also applies to Odessa, first of all - they have Transnistria under the brk and there are impudent guys

                Transnistria dies faster than Odessa region.
                1. avt
                  avt 19 January 2018 22: 43
                  +3
                  Quote: Antares
                  thanks, dumb dumb-fight for "special status"

                  Well, so what am I talking about - At Europ, at Europ. There and download the rights about
                  Quote: Antares
                  recognition of your rights as a Ukrainian

                  Well, let them tell you how, in the USSR, in millions of copies at the expense of the budget and books on mov are printed and other Lyakhs are being subdued. And we, together with LDNR, will see and laugh. Otusha, as if you are getting rich with your little thought. Enough, you should rebuild the great Ukraine again, neither you nor the naked nor the bad. They didn’t understand the Georgian lesson on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX.? Well, the mental problems of the Svidomo natives of the sheriff don’t care. Do you seriously think in the ruin of the campaign that someone is interested in your sacred maso? bully
        3. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 19 January 2018 18: 24
          +3
          Dancing on the bones began with the good promises of cuties M, C, Gorbachev. They believed the Secretary General of the CPSU .... The collapse. War. Genocide. Poverty The extinction of the population ... And how beautifully he spoke of socialism with a human face! How to fight corruption! Revealed and spoke! Spoke ! Spoke ! Now it looks like cutie Grudinin .. will come. The same rake ... in an old fashion. Russia I'm afraid it will not rise after another G!
          1. Don
            Don 19 January 2018 19: 48
            +2
            Т
            Quote: 30 vis
            Now it looks like cutie Grudinin .. will come. The same rake ... in an old fashion. Russia I'm afraid it will not rise after another G!

            Oh how are you bent recourse Yes, and Grudinin dragged here. He is something that did not please you? The fact that the Communist Party nominated? Everything has long been clear about Gorbachev. It was with him that the mess and poverty began. And do Putin’s shit with Yeltsin’s halo over his head? On their conscience there are much more lives of our citizens than the traitor Gorby!
            1. Kot_Kuzya
              Kot_Kuzya 19 January 2018 20: 51
              +4
              For Poroshenko, too, 56% of the pots jumped. But there will not be so many Russians jumping for the oligarch Grudinin. Ukrainian vaccination will last a long time.
            2. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 19 January 2018 22: 09
              +2
              Hurt? So the truth is in my words. Yes. Yeltsin love you even less!
              Quote: Donskoy
              The fact that the Communist Party nominated?

              The Communist Party should put forward honest, young, decent Communists .. And this is not that, and not this ... G .....- in a word .. Gorbachevo-Grudinin ...
            3. LSA57
              LSA57 19 January 2018 23: 23
              +5
              Quote: Donskoy
              And the shit of Putin with Yeltsin halo over his head?

              well, compared laughing and what kind of blood is on Putin?
            4. muhomor
              muhomor 20 January 2018 22: 45
              0
              Russian demography crippled the rule of shit. Under EBN, the population decreased by 1 million!
        4. Lev Bronsch
          Lev Bronsch 19 January 2018 20: 36
          +2
          Yeah, apparently Russian grandparents dragged borscht on the Maidan and cobblestones served granddaughters am
          People die and people are born. That’s how those born will grow up - stubborn Svidomo, who have all the troubles of “damned Muscovites”, or people who want to live peacefully with their neighbors, with all their neighbors! Depends on the mass of factors, and the real promotion of good neighborliness and mutually beneficial cooperation, BUT! WITHOUT idiocy about the "fraternal peoples", here in the first roles - to shut off the Internet ukro-Nazi-clowns just can not do)). But objectively - the more the population of Ukraine dies out, the better for Russia - cynically, but the truth yes
        5. antivirus
          antivirus 19 January 2018 20: 52
          +1
          going through the 90s two times is an interesting experiment for one country.
          It’s bad that in the Far East and Siberia only migrants can be found with them.
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 19 January 2018 16: 48
      16
      In Russia, I remember in the 90s, when the EBN complied with Washington’s instructions, the same thing was even higher ... Losses have not yet been calculated, the horror that happened on the outskirts of the empire, and then it moved to the center. (I read a lot of memories about it ..)
      1. Dormidont
        Dormidont 19 January 2018 17: 25
        +4
        The kind aunt Thatcher clearly said that for Russia, a population of 15 million is quite enough. And the extra must die
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 19 January 2018 18: 51
          +7
          Quote: Dormidont
          The kind aunt Thatcher clearly said that for Russia, a population of 15 million is quite enough. And the extra must die

          Strangely enough, Hitler also believed that about 10 million people should be left on the territory of the USSR, who can only count and write in order to do the dirty work. The rest in the furnace.
          Here is such a squiggle. As for ukrostat, of course they are lying scoundrels ... This is such a country with false heroes, a fake government and no future. The lack of preventive vaccinations + more than a dozen American baccalories + civil war and a catastrophe in the economy will lead Ukraine to collapse. What do baclabs do? I venture to suggest the development of genetic weapons against the Slavic nation. From the bird flu epidemic a few years ago in the southern hemisphere, who mostly died? People of the yellow race. White killed hardly a dozen typed. When will this unfortunate people wake up? fool
          1. hrych
            hrych 19 January 2018 20: 19
            +4
            Both Thatcher and Hitler are already in the Kingdom of the Dead, and the Russian people have not disappeared, but are becoming stronger and more invincible.
            Quote: Balu
            People of the yellow race. White killed hardly a dozen typed.

            Here vsezh there was a different factor, the crowded population, the level of medicine, hygiene, and of course the localization of the outbreak. Plus, Europeans are still more resistant to influenza, they survived Spain, and this was its mutated version of H1N1.
          2. Antares
            Antares 19 January 2018 22: 48
            0
            Quote: Balu
            What do baclabs do? I venture to suggest the development of genetic weapons against the Slavic nation.

            REN TV do not watch. If not for American money, all the stamps in the laboratories were. USSR could penetrate the habitat.
            Look at your leisure what the Odessa “American Biolaboratory” is doing - even though it is an institute of the former USSR.
            - Odessa, 2009 (Central reference laboratory based on the plague laboratory of the Mechnikov Ukrainian Research Institute. Specialization is the study of human pathogens. The US Department of Defense has invested about $ 3,5 million in the project);

            there are a couple of reports from there. But rumors and the yellow press are still escalating.
            1. Baloo
              Baloo 20 January 2018 16: 35
              +1
              Quote: Antares
              Look at your leisure what the Odessa “American Biolaboratory” is doing - even though it is an institute of the former USSR.

              Do you believe in US humanism? To push dangerous production closer to the enemy, that’s the whole philosophy. Moreover, the population of Ukraine is not an experimental site.
    3. Observer2014
      Observer2014 19 January 2018 17: 06
      +6
      Lord of the Sith hi
      What kind of 42 million? Not more than 26 million.
      Yes. That is. That is. Remember Sergey as on / in as far back as the 90th they blew that you need to leave 10 -12 lyam residents. They are taking leaps and bounds towards a bright future laughing
    4. Chertt
      Chertt 19 January 2018 17: 15
      +7
      Do not forget, the Slavs die, there are so few of us
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 19 January 2018 17: 31
        +2
        And those who were Slavs, so as not to have problems, became Ukrainians. When will the mind come to them?
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 19 January 2018 18: 33
          +2
          Quote: Alexander 3
          And those who were Slavs, so as not to have problems, became Ukrainians. When will the mind come to them?

          Reason? Come? Yes, you just don’t still know about Sumerians ...
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 19 January 2018 17: 35
        +6
        Chertt
        Do not forget, the Slavs die, there are so few of us
        You noticed! Nothing, Putin and United Russia brought back new Russians in return laughing
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 19 January 2018 17: 48
          +4
          Quote: Observer2014
          You noticed! Nothing, Putin and United Russia brought back new Russians in return

          I, in the scientific sense of the term, Racist. And I consider the problem of depopulation to be the most important for Russia (just this topic is considered "doubtful" for discussion., And requires a lot of correctness)
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 19 January 2018 17: 52
            +4
            Chertt
            (just this topic is considered "doubtful" for discussion., and requires a lot of correctness)
            Well naturally hi
        2. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 19 January 2018 20: 57
          +2
          Since when did Tajiks cease to be human? You, in fact, have already begun to indecently smack of Nazism am
          1. Chertt
            Chertt 19 January 2018 21: 03
            +1
            Do not strain. Just two people talked about their topic. You should not be interested in this.
      3. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 19 January 2018 20: 55
        +2
        Grab the snot and chew yourself nonsense about the Slavs. The Poles are also Slavs. They are friends? The Germans and the British are the closest Germanic peoples, but there have always been enemies.
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 19 January 2018 21: 05
          +2
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          The Poles are also Slavs. They are friends?

          I will surprise you now, but you can think a little bit ahead
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 19 January 2018 21: 32
            +1
            I think ahead. Poles for 1000 years were enemies of the Russians. And they will be enemies of the Russians for at least another 1000 years.
            1. Chertt
              Chertt 19 January 2018 21: 43
              +2
              For a thousand years, we have been several times one nation, and several times one state. And we will
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 19 January 2018 21: 45
                +1
                Poland and Russia were one people? wassat . And all of Poland has never been part of Russia. Krakow and Lviv were part of Austria, and Magdeburg and Poznan were part of Germany.
                1. Chertt
                  Chertt 19 January 2018 21: 48
                  +2
                  Sorry, we speak at different levels ... and in general this is not a topic for VO
                  1. Kot_Kuzya
                    Kot_Kuzya 19 January 2018 21: 54
                    +2
                    Well, okay. Nothing to argue, and I had to merge the topic ...
                    1. LiSiCyn
                      LiSiCyn 20 January 2018 00: 02
                      +4
                      And I will support you !!! I myself live 70 km from the border with Polandia ... Brothers, we will not. We can be allies, but this is if Paliks start to reap strongly, from the west ... But the EU will become "Islamic" in a couple of generations ... So sho .... Send these "brothers" to .... It is necessary to strengthen the border. soldier
          2. Observer2014
            Observer2014 19 January 2018 21: 50
            +3
            Chertt
            I will surprise you now, but you can think a little bit ahead
            laughing good
    5. Pirogov
      Pirogov 19 January 2018 17: 35
      +3
      Quote: Sith Lord
      What kind of 42 million? Not more than 26 million.

      I watched a video on YouTube where the guy argued argued that 28,29 million.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 19 January 2018 17: 58
        +6
        Look, there’s one more point, they are the Crimea, the DPR and LPR, too.
    6. Lelek
      Lelek 19 January 2018 17: 38
      +3
      Quote: Sith Lord
      Not more than 26 million.

      Hello, Sergey.
      In the second quarter of 2017, Forbes announced the figure of 32,5 million. If you accept your figure, then in half a year the population of the former Ukraine decreased by 6 million people. Famously.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 19 January 2018 17: 59
        +4
        Hi, Lelek! In their numbers, they consider Crimea, the DNI and the LC.
    7. siberalt
      siberalt 19 January 2018 19: 07
      +2
      Minus Lutsk per month is sad. And if translated into Russia, then what is our city in the red? But you can safely multiply by three, we will not make a mistake. winked
      Meanwhile, maternity capital reached the level of 0,5 monthly salary of the State Duma deputy. winked Rejoice, Russia!
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 19 January 2018 19: 23
        +1
        Fresh statistics on demographics and from Rosstat are expected
        Salary would also read statistics (minimum, maximum, as well as labor pensions). And it is desirable in comparison with at least the countries of the former socialist camp. To compare with the indicators of other European countries, I think it is not appropriate here (why once again disgrace).
      2. Lev Bronsch
        Lev Bronsch 19 January 2018 20: 45
        +2
        Moreover, I’ll say you are our liberal, 0,000000000000001% of the state of Abramovich, oh, Gates, oh Soros - but what is it, the whole list of Forbes 1000 should be listed laughing . You are the vile provocateur and the inept liar - there are 450 members of the State Duma in the Russian Federation, maternity capital and benefits are paid to hundreds of thousands annually! And yes, in Russia there is no decrease in the population at the pace of Ukraine, you are our ho-loving! Yes, at the expense of new citizens, and emigrants from other countries, including Ukraine! What do you want! The trend is European however! The normal ones scatter from the cursed place (Ukraine), Natsik remains - there they have a place in the amount of 5-6 million. And the agrarian superpower will not feed more! laughing So for now, Ukraine - hello Ruin !!
      3. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 19 January 2018 21: 00
        +3
        In fact, this population of Ukrashka has decreased from 52 million in 1993 to 42 in 2013. And now, minus the Crimea, Donbass and refugees to Russia and the EU, the number of skakuas totals about 33 lyam. And the population of Russia has remained at around 145 million since the collapse of the USSR. So do not skip for the destruction of Russian, as if the pots themselves did not become an endangered species laughing
      4. LSA57
        LSA57 19 January 2018 23: 34
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        Meanwhile, maternity capital reached the level of 0,5 monthly salary of the State Duma deputy. Rejoice, Russia!

        I wonder what Putin was like before Putin? more deputy, or not?
    8. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 20 January 2018 09: 30
      +1
      Hi Seryozha! I'm just in shock! They called us aggressors, and Ukrainians have what they do here! War, so war, Putin is just zhopit. I would admit Donbass and shit at all, well, no! To hell with all the concepts, go home! To us to Russia! Honestly! I’ll accept everyone! fellow
  2. Logall
    Logall 19 January 2018 16: 43
    +5
    What did they want? Who in hell decides to breed? They only suffer there ... So much so that I don’t even want sex!
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      1. Korax71
        Korax71 19 January 2018 18: 39
        0
        Tovarischi. You yourself are not tired of seeing the hand of the State Department in everything ??? now you have all the rear-wheel drive in America. Why then do they have more children in families and a higher birth rate? like people of the same sex did not learn how to reproduce. In Moscow and Leningrad, as in other cities of Russia, there are no Russian women with low social responsibility ??? there are! it doesn’t depend on nationality. I recently stumbled upon a video from college students at Beni Benazi. Now explain to me how this behavior differs from those you curse e?
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 19 January 2018 18: 55
          +2
          Quote: Korax71
          recently stumbled upon a movie of college students under Beni Benazi

          They haven’t gotten a crib yet? Do they even understand that they were portraying gays? And others, normal guys, future pilots of Civil Aviation, have not yet begun re-educating these monkeys? Nasty sight, Cheslov. Or am I behind life?
          1. Dedall
            Dedall 19 January 2018 21: 09
            +3
            Dear ones, the saddest thing is that the authorities recognized those small children of 20-22 years old in the amount of 14 people as completely normal. And these are those who showed the mental development of baboons. And then they will fly airplanes, where hundreds of passengers will fly. In short, I could not afford to fly on planes before, and after that I will not even dream.
        2. Lev Bronsch
          Lev Bronsch 19 January 2018 20: 49
          +2
          It’s very simple - the birth rate in the USA is growing only due to Negro, Latin American, Asian and mixed families. Whites there are no longer the majority and not only that - tens of millions simply do not know English from the word in general, but American citizens)).
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 19 January 2018 22: 31
            0
            For reference. 79.4-75% of the figures differ according to the sources, the Caucasian European population of the USA. 10 states with a predominance of a "white" population, over 90%, the rest is smaller, states, counties and cities with a predominance of African-Americans and other races in general. on average, one woman has 2.07 children in Russia 1.6. p racial composition: all 80 are white, 17 are black and 3 are others. There are no citizens in the US Army at all, the constitution does not allow. There are 2% of Green Card holders, and this is practically a citizen .Just he can’t participate in the elections and be a jury in court. Less listen to Prokopenko and Kiselev. But the enemy must be well aware
            1. Lev Bronsch
              Lev Bronsch 20 January 2018 08: 15
              0
              The numbers are yes, they are - and what is "Caucasian"? Blue-eyed Blondes? Or maybe 35-40 million. Mexicans, Latinos ?? Quite a "Europeans", though the English do not know and do not want to know, and yes the Omerians)). Ahhh, I remembered, the Chinese are writing that under 30 million of their relatives live in the USA - Chinatowns, have you heard, not? Also apparently "Caucasians." But a friend has visited Washington recently, as white people on the streets say they are sightseers, and in general, any Mexican immediately seems to be “a pale-faced brother”. And why? And because Washington is a “black” city - under 80% of the population is “Afro”. Capital, pa-animated! wink And so yes, you believe statistics ... As there: a lie, a blatant lie and statistics laughing
              By the way, according to statistics in France, blacks, Arabs, and so on. come in large numbers and 3 million are not recruited. I am a Frenchman - as it is, in Paris there is no way to push through them, and in the south it is immeasurable. Answer - statistics take into account only migrants !! And the fact that a year ago Ethiopian received citizenship, then everything is no longer a Negro, but a French citizen. Then the truth admitted - how do you count them ??? And you poke a tsifirka in your nose - fly, walk around, look, maybe you will understand what I’m talking about ...
        3. Antares
          Antares 19 January 2018 22: 55
          +1
          Quote: Korax71
          me how is this behavior different from those you curse e?

          it’s just easier to blame someone, but not yourself. In Ukraine, the neighbor is blamed, in Russia there is more choice — America, England, Europe ..
          When discussing a topic that is very similar to the Russian one (corruption, the extinction of the Slavic population, reduction of native speakers of the Russian language, etc.), but in Ukraine, it’s easier for everyone. Otherwise, it’s the rocking of the boat, the wishes of the Maidan and, in general, work for the State Department with cookies ...
        4. LSA57
          LSA57 20 January 2018 00: 08
          +2
          Quote: Korax71
          why then do they have more children in families and a higher birth rate?

          aha, at the expense of Asians and blacks. average American family 4 people
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 20 January 2018 13: 46
            0
            Even in Mexico, one woman accounts for an average of 2.4 children, although 20 years ago there were 4, but mortality is also significantly different. Now we’ll look to Russia. UFO-71% of families have one child, resp. Dagestan 35% -3 or more children, Chechnya 51% -3 and more, Ingushetia 65% 3 and more. According to your logic, we get the main supplier of children in the North Caucasus. And the rest of the Russian Federation, like America, are rear-wheel drive, they don’t breed, which doesn’t can compensate for the natural population decline.
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 19 January 2018 16: 45
    +6
    Well, you’ll fight even more with the people, at the same time actively plant the “blue”! fool Although, and we are afraid, the statistics will not be completely “fun!” In vain, perhaps they already started paying money for the first child!
  4. avt
    avt 19 January 2018 16: 48
    +6
    January to November 2017 decreased by 181,5 thousand people.
    However, the record went. Previously, 120 thousand per year on average declined. But here, the “obvious is improbable”, and the total number
    If you believe the reports of Ukrstat, then the population of Ukraine as of December 1, 2017 amounted to 42,4 million people.
    not a gram changes! wassat bully Well, never mind, there are still things to work on up to the parameters set by the general people for the Svidomo raguli-euroopeics. It is necessary to reduce to no more than 10 million herds of purely Svidomo-secluded ones, the rest, according to the precepts of Bandera and Shukhevych - “Shoba was Ukraine, the generation’s blood need is not long”, and the war will go to utilization with more fun.
    1. Lev Bronsch
      Lev Bronsch 19 January 2018 20: 56
      +2
      Well, you are an optimist, however - 5-6 million is the limit that the agricultural sector can pull out !! And then, loafers 50% will be laughing . And the rest are not supposed to be non-slaves. For reference - for 2018, the plan for the privatization of state-owned enterprises of Ukraine provides for an income of 21 billion hryvnias. There are 18 enterprises, the average price is slightly more than $ 40 million. USA. This is the data of the Ukrainian Cabinet, from the budget. Among these enterprises are Odessa Port Plant, Turboatom, Ukrspirt (5-6 plants), etc. The question is this is real privatization or sale of scrap metal? The answer is obvious! Of course, at the free industrial sites, another workshop for the production of automotive components will be filmed, so that Don Pedro would have a chance to get his head up before the elections. Well, invest yelling is good - 200 euros per month s / pl, this is with personal income tax (I don’t remember what they have exactly called, but definitely with tax), where will he find such cheap slaves ??
      1. avt
        avt 19 January 2018 21: 27
        +1
        Quote: Lev Bronsch
        Well, you are an optimist, however - 5-6 million is the limit that the agricultural sector can pull out !!

        Tse will be the territory of the Hetman’s tilka, well, the size Sho Lesha, “The Quietest” accepted, when once again Hops asked to say - if you don’t accept, I’ll go to the Poles and confess and I’ll fight with them against you. And the Galicians in fact with Polish passports, like Transcarpathians with Ugric. bully Such a piece - the Ukrainian SSR that fell off in 1991, was ... idiots.
  5. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 19 January 2018 16: 52
    0
    No one doubted, and then mortality rose to a population level of 30-32mln.
  6. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 19 January 2018 16: 53
    +6
    Ukraine is waiting for a "demographic pit", although by that time they would be modestly silent about Ukraine of those years (lowering their eyes) It will not be likely, there was too much blood and betrayal from this non-state ..
    1. Going
      Going 19 January 2018 17: 32
      +4
      Vitaly, what kind of pit is an abyss, from which they themselves will never get out.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 19 January 2018 20: 42
        +4
        Quote: Going
        Vitaly, what kind of pit is an abyss, from which they themselves will never get out.

        But what kind of independence is Viktor .. Kiev needs to be taken! And then sort it out .. (maybe it will not work out by military means ..) The sex of Ukraine in Russia is grubbed, waiting .. This is a huge Army!
        It is necessary to find a new Old Man Makhno and all things ..)))

        Only other goals and everything ..
        If it doesn’t work out, then it’ll have to be like that .. In the Donbass ..! laughing

        I’m joking and my brothers will hold my teeth together, what is being done in our country Orthodox?
        1. Going
          Going 19 January 2018 20: 55
          +3
          We all grit our teeth, because we don’t have levers and ways to help somehow.
  7. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 19 January 2018 16: 53
    +4
    And it’s purple for everyone - that’s sad. All "senior comrades" will be satisfied with 10 million for agricultural activities, maintenance of the minimum necessary infrastructure and constant irritation of Muscovites. And this is the most industrially developed country of the USSR. This is all sad. Still, I hope for the collapse of Ukraine and the preservation in good condition of the pro-Russian part
    1. PalBor
      PalBor 19 January 2018 18: 21
      +3
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      And it’s purple for everyone - that’s sad. All "senior comrades" will be satisfied with 10 million for agricultural activities, maintenance of the minimum necessary infrastructure and constant irritation of Muscovites. And this is the most industrially developed country of the USSR. This is all sad. Still, I hope for the collapse of Ukraine and the preservation in good condition of the pro-Russian part

      So much for the implementation of the Ost plan without losses among Western liberal fascists.
    2. Lev Bronsch
      Lev Bronsch 19 January 2018 20: 58
      +2
      Why so sad?? Perfectly!! Wanted Maidan? They wanted the whole country !!! Mtskalyaku on gilyaku? Taki yes !! Well, eat - don’t hang on! am
    3. Antares
      Antares 19 January 2018 23: 02
      +1
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Still, I hope for the collapse of Ukraine and the preservation in good condition of the pro-Russian part

      The "pro-Russian" part is the most active part of those employed in industry and in the war. It is also shrinking the fastest, and it did not allow collapse when the ultranationalists did everything for collapse.
  8. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 19 January 2018 16: 53
    +2
    Ukrstat reported a significant excess of deaths over births in Ukraine

    Well, so the independence requires not only victims .... Chiches the screws will tighten up and there will be the correct statistics.
    PS, did not see, with .. udder. Already the Pole will come, that it will be put on properly, and will not tear off the necessary one.
  9. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 19 January 2018 16: 55
    +6
    What were you waiting for ?! Growth or what ?! laughing laughing laughing
    You can die with a laugh .....
  10. Terenin
    Terenin 19 January 2018 16: 59
    +6
    The demographic crisis (depopulation) is a sharp decline in the population.
  11. Livonetc
    Livonetc 19 January 2018 17: 12
    +3
    They just migrate to cyborgs.
    There are no losses!
  12. Bosch
    Bosch 19 January 2018 17: 18
    +3
    Western partners will take away the territory of Durkaina without fauna.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 19 January 2018 18: 56
      +3
      Quote: Bosch
      Western partners will take away the territory of Durkaina without fauna.

      And they will be settled by those who were driven from their homes in the Middle East in order to move this horde against Russia.
  13. Dormidont
    Dormidont 19 January 2018 17: 23
    +2
    As said classic
  14. chenia
    chenia 19 January 2018 17: 24
    +5
    Yes, LIBEROMOR is in full swing. And it seems the process has become irreversible.

    Moreover, they are trying to make from Ukraine not even an outpost in front of Russia, but a rotting moat.
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 19 January 2018 21: 12
      +2
      And no one is going to feed 35 million galloping idiots. This 6 lyam Balts could still feed at the height of the economy. But now, from 2019, subsidies to the Baltic states will be cut.
  15. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 19 January 2018 17: 32
    +6
    A dying nation? No! This is already dead!
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 19 January 2018 19: 27
      +3
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      A dying nation? No! This is already dead!

      Also deceived ... It seems that this will soon become a tradition .... who has not yet shod the Sumerians there?
      1. Going
        Going 19 January 2018 20: 14
        +4
        And at the appropriate price ...
  16. LeonidL
    LeonidL 19 January 2018 20: 08
    +3
    Download further into the bright European past ... in the Middle Ages ....
  17. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 19 January 2018 20: 16
    +2
    It happens ... But why do I need this information?! .. Specifically, what should I do with it? ..
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 20 January 2018 09: 09
      +2
      Quote: Benzorez
      It happens ... But why do I need this information?! .. Specifically, what should I do with it? ..

      Who do you owe and what to do with information on VO belay
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 20 January 2018 20: 44
        +1
        That's the trouble. Not a country, but a house of advice. Nobody knows what to do, but everyone advises something. It is necessary to introduce criminal liability for each advice. You see the advisers will be reduced several times.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 20 January 2018 20: 51
          +3
          Quote: Benzorez
          It’s necessary to criminalize every advice

          So let's start with you good
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 20 January 2018 22: 12
            0
            So let's start with you
            Threats on the forum are prohibited? Not?
          2. Petrol cutter
            Petrol cutter 20 January 2018 23: 21
            +1
            I have nothing against. If I advised you wrong, shoot me. As Comrade Chapaev seems to have taught.
  18. evil partisan
    evil partisan 19 January 2018 20: 59
    +2
    In theory, the population of Ukraine can be adequately calculated based on the total number of subscribers of various mobile operators in Ukraine. Using a reduction factor for the total number of subscribers, which takes into account the average number of connections per person in the country, which is clearly more than 1 and which can be estimated with an error of no more than 20% (I think ...). How can I only get access to this data? what
    This is because the Ukrainian authorities stubbornly do not want to conduct a population census.
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus 19 January 2018 21: 01
    +4
    Ukraine settles down. In fact, the stabilization process is underway there.
    Soon we will see Ukraine as it would be without Russia’s support.
    A small, not rich country. Not very developed, litter for the stronger.
    1. Lev Bronsch
      Lev Bronsch 20 January 2018 08: 23
      0
      But actually this is the ideal of Ukrainians! Hence the hatred of Russia as a civilizational project, the desire for the EU as a richer project, but without understanding - the EU does not feed, it selects wink . And as soon as glimpses of this thought concern the consciousness of the Ukrainian, then the bark immediately goes to the EU countries. Read at least diagonally ukroSMI there are already enemies around - and Poland (does not believe in Bandera) and Hungary (does not allow NATO). In general, it’s sad to be Natsik in the 21st century, litter and that is not always taken, disdain ... what
  20. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 19 January 2018 21: 04
    +2
    According to the Ost Master Plan, an economically feasible population of Ukraine was estimated at 5 million people. But in 1946, the ideologist and mastermind of this plan, Alfred Rosenberg, was turned up in Nuremberg.
    Now his work is continued by the childless American laboratory assistant Suprun. You are on the right track, comrades!
  21. aud13
    aud13 19 January 2018 21: 36
    +3
    A quantitative decrease in population is only part of the problem.
    If you add other factors to this:
    - depreciation of infrastructure;
    - lack of investment;
    The fall in income, etc., then the picture becomes very sad.
    If only old people remain now, and young people leave, then we can assume that the old people will die over time, and then the translations that the children sent to their parents will no longer be received. In this case, a significant source of income in (in) Ukraine will run out. That is, the problems will increase exponentially
    1. Antares
      Antares 19 January 2018 23: 13
      +1
      Quote: aud13
      A quantitative decrease in population is only part of the problem.

      I would also add that the cheapness of the workforce (one of the factors of investment) is lost, since it is corny easier to earn more in Poland. Now the people don’t want to fumble for 7-10 thousand (14-20 thousand rubles) they want more. And since Ukrainians have always been more mobile than Russians at all times (this is a sign of the southern peoples being private, collective northerners), a couple of waves of resettlement have already happened for independence (in history it was massively 3, but here in a quarter century it’s already 2-3)
      In general, there is no one to work - even raising the RFP may not attract.
      Young people are mobile, easily learn a foreign language and work abroad. He is in no hurry to return to his native land (and will not return). And if there is no youth, then there are no taxpayers, workers, investments, and other things ...
      Ukrainian women / girls are engaged in the production process + educated. They will not give birth to 2-3 children for simple reproduction. One or two of strength. And even childfree ... Once they and why not. Mat. you can’t save capital here. They give birth not for his sake. Girls do not want to lose a source of money and their time and health and career. This is typical for the West, but there migration solves the problems of substitution. And in Ukraine it also exacerbates. They give birth a little, they leave a lot ...
      I do not see any reason for joy. Ukraine is Russia in miniature, the processes are brighter, more visual, faster. Yes, and the global problem is the reduction of native speakers of the Russian language, as part of Russian culture. Reduction of markets (which is also not unimportant for the Russian Federation, because even now exporting to Ukraine by 6 billion dollars was a turnover of 30 billion!). Creating a zone of instability.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 20 January 2018 02: 55
        +4
        Yes, let them die out! It is better to have Turks or Arabs as a neighbor than pans that gallop, rushing with Russophobia.
        1. tolmachiev51
          tolmachiev51 20 January 2018 04: 51
          0
          This is you in vain !!! do not mix in a heap of coves with ordinary people who absolutely do not care about the ruling elite of idiots !!! kings come and go.
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 20 January 2018 05: 17
            +4
            Enough to tell tales about the "ordinary people." In 2014, 55% of Ukrainians voted for Bendera and Russophobe Poroshenko, 13% for Bender and Russophobe Tymoshenko, 8% for the outright Nazi and Russophobe Lyazhko, 6% for Bender and Russophobe Gritsenko. In total, 82% of Ukrainians voted for Bendera and Russophobia, this is not counting those who voted for other Natsiks like Yarosh and Tyagnibok. And no one drove hundreds of thousands of saucepans at the barrel of a machine gun into the square and didn’t force them to jump, just like nobody forcibly forced Ukrainians to burn people alive in Odessa on May 2, tens of thousands to be recruited to terrbattalions for the war in Donbass and donated money to the Armed Forces and terbatalons, things and products. So do not tell shovel propaganda about the "fraternal people."
            1. Mimoprohodil
              Mimoprohodil 20 January 2018 10: 55
              +1
              But nothing that the turnout was 60%? Total your 82% turn into 50%. And whether to trust these official statistics
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 20 January 2018 11: 28
                +1
                Yes of course! All these thousands of skakuases and thousands of volunteers in the terrbats took it all off at Mosfilm. But real Ukrainians just do what they pray in Russian and expect them to get rid of Bender’s occupation laughing
      2. Lev Bronsch
        Lev Bronsch 20 January 2018 08: 29
        0
        But we will try to trade with China, Korea and so on. Asia to get! And native speakers - welcome, what should they do in the Nazi Sabbath ?? I still understand the Russians in the Baltic states - everything is in the EU, and even though they allow them to live, it’s possible. And in Ukraine ?? Not when the prices were 3-4 times lower than ours, the dollar was for 8 hryvnias, and the salary was 6000 hryvnias / 800 dollars. Well, now what to do there? Wait until they come and throw them out of the apartment / house - because you are a Muscovite ?? So take 4-5 million, and the rest of the svidomye themselves somehow ... laughing
      3. Victor-M
        Victor-M 20 January 2018 12: 47
        0
        Quote: Antares
        Ukrainians have always been more mobile than Russians at all times

        On raking and weaning someone else's property?
        .
        Ukraine is Russia in miniature, the processes are brighter, more visual, faster

        The quieter you go, the further you'll get.
        Young people are mobile, easily learn a foreign language and work abroad

        For lack of one will have to teach a stranger. Actually, for this it was necessary to turn your country into a toilet, then to flee from this horror mobile?
        . Reductions in markets (which is also not unimportant for the Russian Federation, because even now they export 6 billion dollars to Ukraine, and there was a turnover of 30 billion!). Creating a zone of instability.

        And eat a fish and sit on something? You have an association with the EU, let’s do the equivalent trade with your European allies, and we’ll live somehow.
      4. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 20 January 2018 23: 45
        +1
        They give birth not for his sake. Girls do not want to lose the source of money and their time and health and career.
        For the birth of a child canceled payment? I just don’t follow recently.
        In Ukraine, there was one big bonus comrades giving birth. Money for the child was issued on a cash card. And you can spend them as you see fit. Matkapital in the Russian Federation, forgive me, it's about nothing. Nothing can be done with him, nothing good.
  22. TRP
    TRP 19 January 2018 23: 19
    +3
    Anglo-Saxons have long announced that in Ukraine there will be enough accommodation for 5-10 million people.
    This is our land, our fathers and grandfathers liberated it from the invaders at the cost of their blood and lives. My grandfather in particular.
    I hope that we will free her from the Washington invaders.
  23. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 20 January 2018 04: 49
    +1
    Thatcher's predictions come true - there is genocide of the Slavic peoples !!! under the guise of shitty "values."
  24. Victor-M
    Victor-M 20 January 2018 12: 37
    0
    Ukrstat reported a significant excess of deaths over births in Ukraine

    Cretinism kills.