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Evgeny Spitsyn: We do not owe to the French, and our current "princes-counts" can give away royal debts from their own pockets

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Evgeny Spitsyn: We do not owe to the French, and our current "princes-counts" can give away royal debts from their own pockets



About 400 thousand French, who are holders of Russian loans, or descendants of holders, suddenly demanded that Russia return the royal debts. But we do not owe them anything! This question was raised at the Genoa Conference by the Commissar for Foreign Affairs Chicherin, when the Entente allies complained to us about the Tsar's debts and the debts of the Provisional Government.

We said - well, we recognize these debts of the tsarist government and the Provisional Government, provided that the countries of the Entente, which took an active part in the intervention during the Civil War, would also return the gold reserves that they had stolen and removed from the country’s territory. .

Let me remind you that the armed forces of 14 states took part in the fight against Soviet Russia, they were engaged in total robbery, took out just whole wagons, trainloads, motor ships and hemp, fur, and wood, and coal, and metal, and everything that could be . Let them pay us compensation for the death of more than 111 of thousands of our compatriots, whom they shot. These are established facts, and claims about those killed by the interventionists during the years of the Civil War — at the same time, at the beginning of the 20, were officially filed with the French side as well. But something no compensation from them was not followed!

In 1990, we suddenly recognized these debts, Chernomyrdin signed a document, and he committed not just stupidity, but a crime. His people did not authorize the signing of such agreements, but the fact is that in the 1990s, our entire foreign policy was absolutely colonial. France paid about 400 million euros in debt. The question is - what else do they need? And these guys are acting on the principle - give them a finger, bite to the elbow. If our leaders were well versed in stories, remembered the covenants of our ancestors, they would never allow this kind of thing. Well, Chernomyrdin has left a rich fortune to his heirs, let him out of this state and pay the French. And we do not have to pay them anything. Will cost. Let them pay us compensation - for the invasion of Napoleon.

But the thing is that our so-called "elite" dreams of building an autocratic monarchy, creating an imperial court, arranging balls and all kinds of carnivals - well, what kind of elite is this? Who holds them for the aristocrats? The elite of a normal society is the working class and the working peasantry, which feeds, waters, dresses. And these are impostors, not the elite. The most real criminals who need to prepare a place for balls in Kolyma. They consider themselves to be counts, princes, it happens - but in closed medical institutions with proper treatment passes, nothing terrible.

The heirs of the Russian aristocracy, the so-called elite, really want to restore the monarchy - why? Because they are raving ideas of social Darwinism, they believe that society should be divided into strata, they in this society will constitute a very small, literally meager layer of the ruling elite, which is allowed by everyone and everything, which is under jurisdiction and can spit on any laws. And the rest of society for them is a trash that should serve their whims, lusts, interests and all that jazz. Will cost. And if they continue to behave this way, they may run into the next October revolution.

If some nouveau riche want to return something to the French in order to obtain a baronial title - for God's sake, let them return from their own pockets.
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  1. Lexus
    Lexus 21 January 2018 06: 16
    +4
    And whose Romanovs will now be? No matter how much the French were to owe us.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 21 January 2018 06: 53
      +9
      But in fact .. Is it possible to sue these frogs? Well, at least to Basmanny ... There would be people, but there’s a case ..
      Quote: lexus
      And whose Romanovs will now be? No matter how much the French were to owe us.
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 21 January 2018 07: 02
        15
        In the 1990s, we suddenly recognized these debts, Chernomyrdin signed a document, and he committed not just stupidity, but a crime. - from article

        For a long time now there will be acts of criminals, the team of the American puppet Borka Yeltsin, to pursue Russia.
        1. Antianglosax
          Antianglosax 22 January 2018 09: 57
          +3
          Quote: vladimirZ
          For a long time now there will be acts of criminals, the team of the American puppet Borka Yeltsin, to pursue Russia.

          How is it even possible that heinous dregs and renegades crawl to the leadership of the country? Khrushchev, labeled rubbish, ebn drunk and their accomplices Chernomyrdin, trump card, Kasyanov, shuvalov, kudrin and other abomination. And who chooses this biomass that will close up in the State Duma?
          1. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 22 January 2018 12: 48
            0
            How is it even possible that they are crawling to the leadership of the country ...
            And who chooses ... - Anti-Anglosax

            How and who? But watch the video and understand how and who.
          2. Dedall
            Dedall 22 January 2018 21: 36
            +1
            Valuev’s here, by the way, has the most intelligent look. And if we judge by conversation when he came to our city, then this is not only a view.
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 21 January 2018 07: 03
        +8
        Quote: 210ox
        But in fact .. Is it possible to sue these frogs? Well, at least to Basmanny ... There would be people, but there’s a case ..
        Quote: lexus
        And whose Romanovs will now be? No matter how much the French were to owe us.

        DON'T RECOGNIZE NEVER AND NOTHING !!!!!!
        There, "recognized" Katyn !!!!! So what? Got better? Relations with Poland have become much worse at all !!! If you repent and be ashamed, then everyone will kick, and demand money, and slander !!!! The Olympics are an example !!!!
        1. Alena Frolovna
          Alena Frolovna 21 January 2018 14: 06
          +9
          At one time, Lenin refused to pay the debt of France, rightly indicating to France about the need to pay the damage caused by the French interventionists who invaded the territory of Russia, contributing to inciting a civil war.

          France refused to fulfill Lenin’s conditions and continued to support the White Guards, choosing instead of money war and occupation of the former territories of the Russian Empire, thereby losing any rights to receive royal debts, not to mention the fact that France itself owed for its meager role in foreign intervention.

          In addition, during World War I, Tsar Nicholas placed large volumes of money and gold on the accounts of England and France. Soyuznichki promised to supply Russia with weapons and ammunition, but did not deliver anything.

          So who owes to whom?
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 21 January 2018 07: 02
      17
      We don't have to french


      Must ... must ... smile the French for the defeated army of NAPOLEON
      for the Soviet occupation (in quotation marks) ... for the Baltic states invested from the pocket of our people in their economy ... Poles ... Romanians ...
      heh heh to the Germans for the innocently killed SS men ...
      Americans for moral suffering in VIETNAM ...
      the Japanese for the rout of the QUANTONIAN ARMY ...
      our liberal politicians and economists will pay for everything at the expense of our citizens.
      It's time to introduce a new law ...
      those who want to raze on these Wishlist rogue neighbors, our people are forced to pay out of pocket.
      I wanted, for example, the Yavlinsky Kuril Islands to give to the Japanese, let the Japanese pay the cost of the Kuril Islands from their pocket.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 21 January 2018 07: 14
        +5
        No, well, if you calculate how much we owe and how much we owe, you can print the “little cranes”. And to appoint some Honored Proctologist of Russia to the post of chief on payments - let the newly-opened creditors "close the debt hole."
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 21 January 2018 13: 32
        +9
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        our liberal politicians and economists will pay for everything at the expense of our citizens.

        Of course they will pay, any whim for our money, in exchange for the loyalty of the "partners".
    3. Finches
      Finches 21 January 2018 07: 26
      +6
      Yes, eaters of croissants to us for the antics of Napoleon stick out for the most do not spoil! "Royal Debts".... if, given inflation, the Frenchman will even have to sell the Eiffel Tower for metal to pay! laughing
    4. Basil50
      Basil50 21 January 2018 08: 31
      +2
      Well, why be indignant, the French are true Europeans, and behave just like European carriers of European values. Forgive everyone their debts. And of course, endless claims, claims to their colonies for * the light of civilization *, but RUSSIA and RUSSIAN for not becoming a colony, and all the more dare to disagree with * bel France * and its lights of democracy and liberalism.
    5. Pax tecum
      Pax tecum 21 January 2018 08: 41
      12
      Does anyone know who this is - Evgeny Spitsyn?
      In Russian society there are many urgent and important issues, the solution of which depends on the opinion of citizens. One of them is engaged in the historian Yevgeny Spitsyn. The fact is that for many centuries the country experienced the most diverse events in terms of meaning and influence on people. Each requires reflection and analysis, the development of a common attitude to it of all citizens of the country. And the acquaintance with the history of the state from school begins. And in Russia there is no single textbook of history. The problem is very serious. The person who claimed responsibility for making the decision. This is the historian Yevgeny Spitsyn, now engaged in the popularization of material collected in a four-volume textbook.
      At Radio Russia (VGTRK), there is a conversation about the problems of patriotic education.
      At least, the fact that he gave an interview in the "Intelligence Interrogation" to Goblin (D.Puchkov) already says a lot. For the "enemies of the people" are not invited to him.
      These are the kind of people who should be advisers to the President, and fools like Surkov.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 21 January 2018 08: 50
        +8
        Quote: Pax tecum
        Does anyone know who this is - Evgeny Spitsyn?

        In addition.
        1991 - graduated from Moscow State Pedagogical University, has 25 years of teaching experience
        2000 – 2008 - director of a Moscow school
        Author of textbooks and lecture courses on the history of Russia, member of the Expert Council of the State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption.
        Professional historian, graduated with honors from the Faculty of History of Moscow State Pedagogical University. Lenin. He is the author of several dozens of articles and publications on historical topics and on the problems of national education, which are published in a number of media, including the newspapers Vechernyaya Moskva, Komsomolskaya Pravda, Tomorrow, in the magazines National Control and Historian , on the Internet resources “Russian Spring” (rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1428685421), “Nakanune.ru” (nakanune.ru/articles/110182), “Russian Planet” and others.
        Almost 20 years worked as a history teacher in two Moscow schools, of which 8 years - the director of one of these schools.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 21 January 2018 17: 18
        +1
        Quote: Pax tecum
        Does anyone know who this is - Evgeny Spitsyn?

        Spitsin is a "red" historian, Stalinist.
        He is engaged in the fact that on the open spaces of the Internet he brings everyone his little books on history, some history textbooks, well, accordingly, in his opinion, these are textbooks. Recently, he "sat in a puddle" blurt out his delusional conclusions about the events of Prague in 1968, for which he later had to apologize to the online resource on which his nonsense was printed and to our authorities Milos Zeman himself.
        1. Alf
          Alf 21 January 2018 23: 36
          +2
          Quote: RUSS
          for which he then had to apologize to the Internet resource on which he published his nonsense and to our authorities Milos Zeman himself.

          Our government apologized for Katyn too ...
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 21 January 2018 17: 26
        +2
        Quote: Pax tecum
        At least, the fact that he gave an interview in the "Intelligence Interrogation" to Goblin (D.Puchkov) already says a lot. For the "enemies of the people" are not invited to him.

        Goblin is an expert laughing , the empty crap is still the one, normal people will not come to this crank for an interview, Goblin is a pseudo-expert blogger for suckers and schoolchildren
    6. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 21 January 2018 09: 42
      +3
      If some nouveau riche want to return something to the French in order to obtain a baronial title - for God's sake, let them return from their own pockets.

      There is nothing! Did these so-called "nouveau riche" earned honest money for their bins ?! Leave them a pension on poverty, and the rest on regional development! A felled forest rots in millions of cubes! Let the wood-processing workshops be better put, but gas is pulled through the villages!
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 22 January 2018 16: 20
        0
        Spitsyn has many stories, lectures on the history of the USSR, RUSSIA on the net !!!!!!!
        As for the textbook, Spitsyna ---- has not yet decided for personal reasons.
        And here he has a completely unique thick book, similar to those volumes of history ------ this is RUSSIA'S HISTORY IN MAPS, PORTRAITS AND PHOTOS FROM ANCIENT TIMES TO THE END OF THE 20th Century. It has more than 90 historical maps, as well as photos of rare documents and significant people in the history of our homeland. And in Moscow and St. Petersburg there are CONCEPTUAL stores, where the books of Spitsin and his associates are sold, published in the publishing house of the same name.
        True, I have not been there yet, but THE HISTORY OF RUSSIA IN MAPs. received from the online store as soon as it appeared !!!! ☆☆☆☆☆ ++++++++++++++++
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 21 January 2018 07: 14
    17
    If some nouveau riche want to return something to the French in order to obtain a baronial title - for God's sake, let them return from their own pockets.
    That's right ... Let the captains, warrant officers, Nevsky, Olgovichi and other bulk-crunches give their debts ...
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 January 2018 08: 00
    12
    Such a queue has already lined up at the door of Russia in order to try to tear money off it (and in each case illegally) that soon the end of this queue will not be visible. And in order to cool the fervor of those who want to freebies, it’s necessary not to watch silently what is happening, but to really formally file counterclaims, and the most restless to “strangle” in the bud. What do we have today? The Baltic states were again given the go-ahead to sell us sprats (without them we would probably die of starvation), not only active trade takes place with Ukraine, but also help with energy resources (and they officially declare us the aggressor), they culturally condemned the demolition of monuments in Poland, even the Moldovans decided demand money from Russia. Ugh.
    1. free
      free 21 January 2018 10: 14
      +4
      So after all, the fish is rotting from the head, or the king does not know !?
      1. Alf
        Alf 21 January 2018 23: 37
        +2
        Quote: free
        So after all, the fish is rotting from the head, or the king does not know !?

        No, the king is good.
  4. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 21 January 2018 08: 32
    +5
    There is a desire to feel the mug at the nearest "titular aristocrat" ... it is a pity that all this aristocratic cattle hang out mainly at the capital level. When the nouveau riche gets a dofig of stolen dough, their next phase is the entrance to power ... and, as apofez, are nonsense about the monarchy with an eye, apparently, on serfdom rightooooo (so far they haven’t voiced it yet). And in the Duma, servants of the people rave about this topic.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 21 January 2018 13: 52
      +5
      Quote: viktor_ui
      There is a desire feel the mug near the nearest "titular aristocrat"..., it is unfortunate that all this aristocratic redneck is hanging out, mainly at the metropolitan level.


      According to Maria Vladimirovna Romanova, you can become a new Russian nobleman if the princess rewards you with the Order of St. Anne, the Order of Alexander Nevsky or the Order of Nikolai the Miracle Worker. This gives a personal or hereditary nobility, the right to a coat of arms, for example, with the universal motto “Personally and Forever,” if the nobility is personal.
      In new Russia, only people with high official positions are awarded with such orders.
      At one of the meetings of the Heraldic Council under the President of the Russian Federation, the question was specifically raised: why, upon reaching certain ranks, not appropriate the nobility personal and hereditary, but the country's main herald-master, Georgy Vilinbakhov, objected: it’s impossible, the Constitution does not allow it, everyone is equal according to it ...
      BUT !!! Nevertheless, they were allowed to appropriate personal nobility ...
      Source: https://ru-royalty.livejournal.com/1618043.html

      As you can see, the issue of the nobility, the official new "elite", is already being seriously discussed at the level of the President of the country ...
      This is also confirmed by the “State and socio-political concept of the Russian Nobility Assembly (RDS)”, adopted on May 15, 2010 by the Russian Nobility Congress.
      Source: http://www.nobility.ru/rus/rds/conceptions/

      And here is the list of full members of the RDS accepted into it from May 1990 to May 2016 ...
      Source: http://nobility.ru/rus/rds/members/membersd/

      The Duma, the government ... Naryshkin, Zhukov ... THESE are, in fact, not new Russian nobles, but nobles on the hereditary line ...

      In general, everything goes to the fact that they want to "feel the mug" from the people ...
      1. Nehist
        Nehist 23 January 2018 04: 12
        +1
        So it’s even visible on the coins. On the new ones, it’s already an eagle with an imperial crown and a power with a scepter, now it remains only to add stamp shields, such as the Principality of Finland, the Polish Voivodeship, etc. And voila, the new Empire is ready, respectively, there will be nobles and servants
  5. 1536
    1536 21 January 2018 08: 55
    +6
    Yesterday they showed a story on TV, like a scoundrel from the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU (this ghoul should not have a last name), a swindler and a boor, gave the Bering Sea (34 thousands of square miles of oil shelf (!)) To the Americans. Now the United States owns 70-percent of the Bering Sea, do what they want there, and Russian citizens suffer losses. So are American citizens so fat and their brains swam?
    The French, apparently, made profit on our mountain of perestroika no less. The big question, for example, is why the assembly halls of the French Renault are now on the premises of the Moscow AZLK?
    Still, V.I. Lenin at one time brilliantly answered the same "creditors": "From whom they took, ask him!" I would add: "Come on, goodbye!"
  6. Naputeon bonaput
    Naputeon bonaput 21 January 2018 08: 59
    +2
    The French government says the issue is finally closed. Why listen to some gorlopans?
    1. Nehist
      Nehist 23 January 2018 04: 14
      0
      These are lawsuits of private citizens of France, and their private property is sacred
  7. Boris55
    Boris55 21 January 2018 09: 06
    +5
    What makes me happy in all of this is that Russia used to be robbed in a quiet and everyone was silent. As soon as they began to shut off the "oxygen", there were screams that we owe them all. Well, just amazing. Everyone, Swedes, French, Germans, already twice in a row, ANTANTA, came to us to rob and kill us and we still owe them! Well, just dead ...
    What allows them to hope that they will have something to do with this is the presence of traitors in our country.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 21 January 2018 13: 34
      +5
      Quote: Boris55
      What allows them to hope that they will have something to do with this is the presence of traitors in our country.

      your president.


      I am ashamed of him ....
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 21 January 2018 13: 47
        +1
        Quote: Stroporez
        your president. I am ashamed of him ....

        And I, for OUR president, is not ashamed! I am proud of him! (1: 11)
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 21 January 2018 13: 56
          +4
          [quote = Boris55] But I, for OUR president, am not ashamed! I am proud of him!
          Maladets laughing Is Sveta from Ivanovo not your relative? belay
          And what will comrade Stalin say
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 21 January 2018 15: 20
            0
            Quote: Stroporez
            And what will comrade Stalin say

            And I'm proud of him.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 21 January 2018 17: 53
              +3
              You are proud of Putin, for. you tear his shirt.
              But Stalin would have shot Putin, definitely, although such fish ....
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 21 January 2018 18: 11
                +2
                Quote: Stroporez
                And Stalin would have shot Putin

                Do you also believe in the bloodthirstiness of Stalin?
                What Stalin faced then, what Putin faced today and faces the task of making the layer between them and the people work for the interests of the camps. That Stalin then, that Putin today, is not able to curb the media that belong, that then, today, everything is the same. The media are one of the tools of ideological power shaping the worldview of people. That is why people vote for the bourgeois party ...
                In general, Stalin and Putin would have found many topics. for companionship.
                1. onix757
                  onix757 21 January 2018 18: 17
                  +4
                  Quote: Boris55
                  In general, Stalin and Putin would have found many topics for friendly communication.

                  Would not be found. One lived and worked for people, the other for the benefit of the oligarchs. Cash contradictions.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 21 January 2018 18: 19
                    0
                    Quote: onix757
                    One lived and worked for people, the other for the benefit of the oligarchs.

                    Do you think under Stalin there were no rich people who made their wealth in an unrighteous way? Take at least the same victory marshal Zhukov, who wagons dragging everything that wasn’t falling ...
                    So do not worry, and this issue would be discussed.
                    1. onix757
                      onix757 21 January 2018 18: 29
                      +2
                      Quote: Boris55
                      Do you think under Stalin there were no rich people who made their wealth in an unrighteous way?

                      if they were then they graduated poorly.
                      Quote: Boris55
                      Take at least the same victory marshal Zhukov, who wagons dragging everything that wasn’t falling ...

                      is he an oligarch? Maybe he was the owner of the shipyard newspaper factories and a land allotment of several hectares? Not? Well maybe sitting on natural rent? Also no?
                      And if not, then the people did not rip off. And yes, Zhukov is the only hero of the Great Patriotic War, on whom the power of the Russian Federation is being promoted, although he would have turned over in his grave.
                    2. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 21 January 2018 19: 54
                      +2
                      Quote: Boris55
                      Do you think under Stalin there were no rich people who made their wealth in an unrighteous way?

                      How old are you, Colleague?
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 22 January 2018 09: 52
                        0
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        How old are you, Colleague?

                        I remembered (1: 18) laughing
                2. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 21 January 2018 18: 28
                  +3
                  Quote: Boris55
                  In general, Stalin and Putin would have found many topics for friendly communication.

                  I can’t understand if you smoke, drink, eat mushrooms or what substance should be nourished in order to compare the Leader of the Peoples with someone ... I will refrain from hard-talented words wassat
                  But in general, you convinced me, I vote for Putin, and even for his repose, set the candle on Gudyaev’s set on fire.
  8. free
    free 21 January 2018 10: 12
    0
    To return poplars and yars to them, in a century they will not forget our generosity!
  9. sabakina
    sabakina 21 January 2018 10: 29
    +5
    And if they continue to behave like this, they may run into the next October Revolution.

    In general, it’s easy if we survive. The next generation is not capable. I do not look further.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 21 January 2018 13: 40
      +5
      Quote: sabakina
      if we survive.

      We must! And the next generation is even more revolutionary, they certainly have nothing to lose.
  10. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 21 January 2018 10: 38
    +3
    The elite of a normal society is the working class and the working peasantry, which feeds, feeds, dresses

    Cheap, like a penny, an incendiary. The disgrace thrown on our heads by democracy, which tirelessly dumps trash bins on us. The elite of any normal society is the BEST. The best in their fields. The USSR has already declared by default the best pair of social classes. However: "People are not equal and cannot be equal. Any physicist will easily learn to plaster. But no plasterer will ever start a nuclear reactor!"
    This crap just wants to repeat the "success" of the USSR. Since neither the peasants nor the workers can, of course, rule the country, economic branches, political movements, this power, hiding behind the "hegemon", was appropriated by vile, talkative, irresponsible bureaucrats. Lying and vile like poison. And the USSR did not survive the rule of the “working class”, to which (the rule) the working class had nothing to do. Fortunately, because managing is not the work of the working class ...
    Not surprisingly, he immediately launched the second after the first lie. The monarchy is a personal responsibility. You did? You answer. Harvest or rewards, or ... or prison, confiscation, or even the wall. This is absolutely unbearable for almost everyone who makes up the current government. And such as this uncle will do anything, just to not hear once: "At the command of our Emperor ..." No, no! For everything that they do, the "source of power", that is, the people, will be responsible. It is more comfortable. And they, horror, in the worst case, will not be elected for a new term.
    Eh, again we are missing our chance. Just when our enemy openly declared a new war against us. It’s still cold. And we will meet her with irresistible greed, devastating the pockets of our own people, meanness, insatiable love of power, combined with a complete inability to use power and other effective methods given to us by democracy. We are ready. Yeah ...
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 21 January 2018 13: 59
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail3
      Eh, again we are missing our chance. Just when our enemy openly declared a new war against us.


      hi Could - for your comment I would put a million "+" ... If it would at least bring a little benefit ...
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 21 January 2018 17: 29
        +1
        Alas. On the network, it’s generally difficult to benefit anyone. Unless to myself. You agree with me. Good. let's hope that you and I are not alone.
  11. steelmaker
    steelmaker 21 January 2018 10: 38
    +6
    And where are the children of our elite? And where is the gold reserve of RUSSIA now? And Nabiulin every quarter where does he invest money? If our athletes go to the Olympics, then who will pay for doping tests from scratched test tubes? Guess three times? The last 18 years, Putin and Medvedev have only done what the financial fantasies of the West fulfill! They paid and will continue to pay!
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 21 January 2018 11: 58
      +6
      Quote: steel maker
      And where are the children of our elite?

      Do you mean the children of the grandchildren of Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, Gorbachev, Suslov, etc.?
      Mostly live in the USA. But in Austria and the UK too.
      1. captain
        captain 21 January 2018 12: 39
        +5
        Quote: Olgovich
        Quote: steel maker
        And where are the children of our elite?

        Do you mean the children of the grandchildren of Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, Gorbachev, Suslov, etc.?
        Mostly live in the USA. But in Austria and the UK too.

        Mr. Olgovich, you just don’t know, but here are the children of the Soviet elite, everyone worked in the mine face, in the cowsheds on the collective farm, etc. Their children now work as locksmiths at enterprises as steelworkers, Mr. Stalevar works with them, and therefore he remembered them.
  12. BAI
    BAI 21 January 2018 11: 18
    0
    How are the classics - from a dead donkey ears?
  13. Olgovich
    Olgovich 21 January 2018 11: 55
    +4
    We said - well, we recognize these debts of the tsarist government and the Provisional Government, provided that the Entente countries that took an active part in the intervention during the Civil War, plus everything returned to the gold reserve that they stole and exported from the country

    What an untrue comrade :: it was stated that the Bolsheviks recognize ALL debts if the West gives CREDITS on any terms and recognizes advice.
    But they managed to conclude an agreement only with Germany, reviving it for the 41st year.
  14. captain
    captain 21 January 2018 12: 34
    +4
    I support the author, but there is a nuance. Who was the president then? Like Yeltsin. And who was Yeltsin before his presidency in the Russian Federation? It seems to be a candidate member of the Politburo of the CPSU !!!. No, not the party of monarchists, Socialist-Revolutionaries, Cadets, anarchists, but the PARTIES OF THE PROLETARIAT. So it was so necessary for the advanced detachment of fighters with the bourgeoisie. And do not say that Gorbachev and his associates, Yeltsin and his associates were traitors. After all, then it turns out that the CPSU was a forge of traitors to our people. And who are the "counts and princes" now? That's right, children, grandchildren, sons-in-law, nephews, etc. of the party and state bosses of the USSR. Even Chubais, hated by everyone, is the son of a colonel-political worker (during the Second World War he served in the political department of the front).
    1. KERMET
      KERMET 21 January 2018 13: 13
      +4
      Yes, unfortunately, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union at the sunset of the USSR really became a forge of traitors to the people, and by simple ordinary careerists and opportunists, they have nothing to do with real communists
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 21 January 2018 13: 23
        +1
        In a word - reincarnates. The heir to the party that arranged the perestroika in the 90's is the Communist Party. That is why she feels so wonderful among her fellow immigrants.
    2. free
      free 21 January 2018 13: 57
      +5
      To clarify how the CPSU became a forge of enemies, read the theory of the class struggle! Stalin and Lenin warned of such a thing, but this in no way discredits the idea of ​​communism.
  15. Freeman
    Freeman 21 January 2018 13: 55
    +2
    Let them pay us compensation - for the invasion of Napoleon.

    According to the Paris Peace Treaty of 1815, between the participants of the seventh anti-French coalition (Russia, England, Austria and Prussia), signed in Paris on November 20 after Napoleon’s defeat at Waterloo, France pledged to pay a contribution of 700 million francs and contain the occupying forces.
    It turns out 175 million. "Per brother."
    In addition, France paid Russia 10 million francs for salaries and 40 million for ammunition, by agreement between the ministers of the allied powers of September 1.
    In 1803, the first new francs were issued, which held their price until 1914. The gold content was 0,2903 grams.
    20 francs equaled 5 to 7.5 gold rubles.
    The truth and damage from the Napoleonic invasion was great.
    In Moscow alone, more than 340 million rubles were counted in silver (and this despite the fact that a considerable number of claims made by citizens were rejected), and in the Smolensk province, which was the most affected by the war, about 74 million rubles. The most developed part of Russia lay in ruins.
    https://www.gazeta.ru/science/2012/12/27_a_490855
    4.shtml? Updated
  16. iouris
    iouris 21 January 2018 13: 58
    0
    And why is France worse than Moldova? Russia owes everything. This is called default.
  17. Altona
    Altona 21 January 2018 14: 39
    +3
    Quote: Alena Frolovna
    In addition, during World War I, Tsar Nicholas placed large volumes of money and gold on the accounts of England and France. Soyuznichki promised to supply Russia with weapons and ammunition, but did not deliver anything.

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    In addition, we dragged the French by the ears as “winners” in the Second World War. Although the French were collaborators, they fought for the Wehrmacht, fed and served the Wehrmacht, worked for the Wehrmacht and slept with the Wehrmacht.
  18. Altona
    Altona 21 January 2018 14: 42
    +2
    Quote: Boris55
    In a word - reincarnates. The heir to the party that arranged the perestroika in the 90's is the Communist Party. That is why she feels so wonderful among her fellow immigrants.

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    No, the Communist Party is more likely a splinter of the CPSU and something else there. The direct heir to the CPSU can be considered rather "United Russia." According to the composition of the participants, it is the largest number of former communists-degenerates.
  19. Altona
    Altona 21 January 2018 14: 45
    +3
    Quote: KERMET
    Yes, unfortunately, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union at the sunset of the USSR really became a forge of traitors to the people, and by simple ordinary careerists and opportunists, they have nothing to do with real communists

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    There were 17 million members in the CPSU, most of whom were honest people. But at the top, at the level of the Central Committee and the Politburo, strange maneuvers were taking place, sometimes inexplicable. It is in the supreme apparatus of the party that it is easiest to carry out a key change of personnel. Moreover, the same thing happened in the KGB, and in the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions, and in the Komsomol.
  20. tank64rus
    tank64rus 21 January 2018 19: 29
    +2
    In the French Bank, only the Romanov family kept five tons of gold, not counting the money transferred by the tsarist and Provisional Government for future deliveries of weapons, which Russia never received. And if the "elite" wants to pay, then let them pay from their own pocket they stole a lot. Or let Trump pay out of the money confiscated from these thieves.
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  22. Old warrior
    Old warrior 24 January 2018 10: 53
    +1
    Let them first pay for the fire of Moscow in 1812 and the destruction of Sevastopol in 1854-1856.
    1. free
      free 25 January 2018 16: 27
      +1
      Quote: Old Warrior
      Let them first pay for the fire of Moscow in 1812 and the destruction of Sevastopol in 1854-1856.

      All that is right is only decided by those who are in power, and not you and I. And in power are traitors! The result is logical.
  23. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 24 January 2018 22: 08
    0
    Well, let Russia first finally completely break with colonial policy, and then we will say that "they should not."